Faramir is one of my favorite characters in the book, for his actions and abilities give some insight into just how "superior" the men of Westernesse really are, when their potential is realized.
@@mikegagne3263 Creates more drama as men are weak... So, people who didn't read the book are thinking will Faramir go down his brother's path because of their father or just the corruption of the ring. We don't have the book Denethor so naturally Faramir isn't the same. But there is much more tragedy and Shakespearean themes surrounding father and son relationship.
@@powerofberzerker9487 well making Aragorn a sadsack and making Treebeard a dumbass also created more drama, but still suck. Those movies were made by people who had seen way too many movies.
@@brovold72 Aragorn isn't a sadsack but a stoic, serious, survivor type of man. He is often thinking about living up to his name and ancestors and not failing where they have failed. He also daydreams about Arwen and everything relating to her and Eowyn.
@@brovold72 Treebeard isn't a dumbass but an ancient creature that's nearing its end. Sort of senile, slow and very isolated(doesn't know the world as he used to). He is goofy sometimes in a way old people can be, nothing wrong with that.
WTF I’m watching the Two Towers as I type, and was thinking just before you posted this, “what are the differences between the books and movies?” And then you post this! Crazy
It’s been years since I’ve read any of the LotR trilogy. The part you mentioned about Gollum not knowing why Frodo and Sam were going to Mordor might be true in the films too. To my knowledge (I haven’t watched the movies in nearly 2 years), neither Frodo nor Sam said anything about destroying the ring in front of Gollum in the films until after Frodo spares Gollum when he attacks him in Shelob’s lair. After Gollum says the precious made him attack his master, Frodo says he has to destroy the ring for both their sakes. Gollum freaks out and pounces on Frodo, who then throws Gollum off the mountainside. I never noticed the correlation until you mentioned it here. Just a cool little tidbit I thought of.
"Bring your pretty face to my axe!" 🤣 Best Gimli quote ever Also, yes! Celebrating the differences between the books and movies yet again! Dont remember the TTT book as well as RotK...time for a reread!! 😁
I really appreciate how Tolkien didn't write the infirmity of Théoden as caused by an elaborate sorcerer's curse but rather an ambiguous mental affliction (something he may have been familiar with himself as a war weary veteran), that was only amplified by Grima's insideous influence. I understand that cinema is a visual medium and changes had to be made by Jackson to convey this to the audience in a more spectacular way.
I agree. However, it upsets me that Tolkien never showed Theoden react to the death of his son more explicitly. It always strikes me as a huge missing element that they filled in with the movies.
Wish I got to see the Huorn. And the eyes that peered out of the forest as they passed by. But I see why it was cut in the film. And Aragorn was prepared when he jousted wills with Sauron in the Palantir.
Faramir in the book has a rock-solid moral compass. His key line is something like: "Even if the ring of power were laying alongside the highway I would not stop to pick it up." Once he finds out Frodo has the ring Faramir is not tempted in the slightest to take it from him or hinder his quest. I don't see the point in the movie of having Faramir deciding to take the ring to Gondor and changing his mind because of Sam's (...there's good in this world that's worth fighting for...) speech.
People can debate about certain scenes in the movie compared to the books, but I always thought the movie did a great job when Gandalf releases Theoden from the spell. One of many favorite scenes from TTT, the film. Thanks for posting!
It's somewhat ironic that Tolkien specifically warned a filmmaker in 1960s that Theoden most definitely was *not* under any kind of mind-control spell. But if there was a mistake to make, Jackson was likely to find it.
I am greatly enjoying this book vs movie comparison series! I especially like tracing the place names out on my giant Middle Earth map to follow where the characters are in their adventures and where they go next! Very much looking forward to the next in this series in particular as well as the ROTK sessions. Keep up the the quality work, as Sam says “The very highest” 🙌🏼
You bet. I’m going to start from the very beginning of the movies vs. books. Your videos are fantastic. It’s taking me a while to catch up, you have so many! Your content is absolutely amazing, a true labor of love. The illustrations, everything. Kudos.
I have been away for a while...so busy. But im catching up. Thank you VERY MUCH for all the content. It means so much to many of us. I hope u see these comments. "May it be a light to you in dark places when all other lights go out."
Yes, Jackson did take liberties with Tolkien's works. Still he did, by far, the best portrayal of LOT series. Diving deep into LOT by reading is a very different experience than watching a film. As I'm sure you would agree. Both great experiences in my lifetime. Thanks for sharing.:) :) :)
He did great to put it into theatrical form. It would obviously have to have taken a lot of liberties to tell generally the entire story and follow a good pace audiences could stay with without making 6 films. The books are amazing and the movies are an awesome gateway and probably the best films of this genre made to this day.
I’m always blown away by your videos. Your Tolkien knowledge and your passion for his works is inspiring. Your channel is easily one of my favorites overall, and it’s my absolute favorite Tolkien channel. Keep up the amazing work!
Man, wait to you get to ROTK of Book vs Movie it will be Crazy!!! Sam's Quote, "By rights we shouldn't be here, but we are..." Is very Meta...Because they shouldn't!!! Well with work done, I get to relax, watch some of your videos and some Movies/TV Shows!!! Thanks for the 3rd Part of Two Towers What's Different... Until Gandalf's Fireworks *Hey wasn't that one of my Video suggestion a While (2 LiveStreams) ago* Marion Baggins Out!!!
Always good to hear from you Marion! Thanks for the support! Oh yes I remember you suggesting that, thank you for throwing that idea out, it is perfect!
Hello Yoysten! Happy early 4th of July to you. I wanted to give you a cool "what if" scenario to explain in a future video. I wanted to know what you think would happen if the Istari had come during the 2nd age and played an active role in the war of the last alliance? Would Saruman still turn evil, will Isildur still claim the ring, how would the 2nd age of Middle Earth play out with the wizards involvement? I'm very excited and curious on what your thoughts are on the subject.
Hey! Thank you, you too! That is a great question! I think if the Istari had taken apart of the great alliance of Men and Elves, and stayed true to each other, Sauron would not have stood a chance. Possibly, if they had knowledge, wisdom and foresight enough for it, the Wizards could have convinced Men and Elves to destroy the One Ring, if it was at all possible. Those are my thoughts at least!
Gimli: "ah we can takem." Aragorn: "Thats alot of orc we'll have to jump." Gimli: "I can not jump now toss me" Gimli: "Wait don't tell the elf." Aragorn: "Not a word."
So excited for the next installment. I just love your ability to tell these great Tolkien tales and you do it so all with such knowledge and admiration of his world
I have a question. Wasn't there a third age tale tale about someone in a boat who ended up in the Ice Bay of Forochel or something like that? I'd like to know more about that story.
Arvedui was the last king of Arnor. It was he who gave the ring of bwahir to the men in the north. His ship had the last two palantiri of Arnor, Annuminas and Amon Sul, both lost to the Ice in 1975 of the Third Age.
I love this series! Just like lembas bread in which one nibble can keep a Man on his feet for days, so too does the content of one video from Men Of The West, satisfy my Tolkien hunger for a week; if just barely ;)
This is a great video series! One difference (as in, the movies don't talk about it at all) that is in my opinion worth mentioning is about Common Speech and the language of the Rohirrim. With them, we have to differentiate between how it is given in the books and how it was actually spoken. This is different from Quenya and Sindarin; they are given as the elves would speak them, but the Common Speech is "translated" to English by Tolkien, as he pretends to be merely the translator of the Red Book and not the creator of these stories. Rohirric is related to Common Speech (and more closely to the Hobbit dialect) but more archaic, so Tolkien "translates" it as Old English to draw a parallel - Rohirric sounds to a speaker of the Common Speech like Old English sounds to a speaker of modern English. To give an example, in-universe the elves really say "Elbereth" (it's Sindarin that has no real-world equivalent, so Tolkien leaves the text "untranslated"), but they called Frodo "Maura" - Frodo is just a translation of the name, just like Rohan is actually called Lōgrad in-universe.
I've been binge watching this series in the past few days and I'm enjoying it a lot! Here's but a minor correction coming from a linguist who cannot help but mention such things: The plural of medium is media, not mediums. :)
Hey, just because you used so many pictures from Lotro, I found it worth mentioning, that in the game the "Horse and the Rider" poem is written in anglo-saxon on the floor of Meduseld - which is pretty neat, cause it explains why Aragorn knows that poem so well; he did ride with Thengel and had been to his hall and would have read the poem there many times.
I know it used to bug my wife and daughter when I'd say watching the movies, "But that's not how it happened!" But you know what: Despite this I still love the movies! Thanks for this series.
I feel like the journey through ithilien represents men fighting in a distant land during war and realizing that their home country is not so different from foreign ones that are ravaged by war. It acts as a warning to the consequences of the weariness of duty and what should happen if they fail.
This was the one bit in the film/book difference that irked me - I really didn't appreciate how they treated Faramir in the movie :( I understood WHY they did it, but I wasn't happy :(
Faramir posed a legitimate conundrum, though. His stoic refusal of corruption, while noble in the book, would kill the emotive impact of Frodo’s journey. Also creates a little B plot of his rejection by his dad... And I don’t think they had the narrative room to distinguish the strength of the Numenorian blood.
@@jackcoleman5955 nah, don't buy that weak defense of Peter Jackson's crappy character development. Only character who suffered worse than Faramir was Denethor himself.
@@jackcoleman5955 I hear what you're saying but have point out in the movie he never actually got the ring TO Denethor anyway, and his father's disaproval of him is present and obvious regardless of Faramir's intentions. Anyway, it seems to me if he had let Sam and Frodo go (like in the book with that stern warning not to trust Gollum) it would make it all the more obvious Frodo is losing control of himself later on.
Jackson's treatment of The Ents is one of his biggest betrayals of Tolkien's vision, IMHO. Its pretty much the point where my interest in the films began to wane.
@@tima5033 making them clueless as to Saruman's treachery, & making them unwilling to go to war, without Pippin tricking them. As bad a betrayal as the s**t they pulled with Faramir.
The language of the Rohirrim is not akin to Old English. Tolkien said he supplanted it with Old English to stimulate in the readers the feeling of almost understanding it yet couldn't that the hobbits would feel when hearing that language, much like he changed all Westron to modern(ish) English as the hobbits fully understand it.
Considering current events, would you ever do a video exploring Tolkien's views on race? A few not so great voices seem to hold LOTR and the Legendarium up as an example of either racism or as supporting racial superiority. I wonder if discussing things like Tolkien's letter to a German publisher pre-WW2, or his evolving views on Orcs, the fall of Numenor, or even Sam's thinking about the Southern Men (as touched on in this video) wouldn't be worth exploring. Controversial I know, but maybe necessary?
The Men of Gondor, that include Faramir and Boromir, were black haired. Why they made them both blonde is beyond Me. But there is no telling with Peter Jackson's reasoning.
You can't top Tolkien's March of the Ents. The Arwen scenes in TT and ROTK are painful as they clearly just eat up time from the actual book material. As a result, the new characters are all sidelined, which is a flaw FOTR does not have. TT and ROTK fall into the trap of over emphasizing the characters from the first film and not the new characters. Also it was a huge mistake to not end on Shelob. It's really absurd how much of the film ROTK is actually material from TT.
Wow, they really dropped the ball in portraying Edoras in the movie. Aside from the Hall, it was a completely depressing collection of primitive thatch and straw huts. I GET that they wanted to play up the sense of despair but I feel they should have been able to do that while showing the true nature of Edoras.
I can understand fans not liking Faramir being an antagonist in the movie, but at heart he is still a good person who is trying to do what is best to save his country and does do the right thing in the end. What one prefers comes down to a matter of preference. I do prefer Frodo in the movie wanting to save Gollum and Gollum actually trying to make a turn towards being good, it adds to the tragedy of Gollum's character.
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Faramir is one of my favorite characters in the book, for his actions and abilities give some insight into just how "superior" the men of Westernesse really are, when their potential is realized.
I agree, not so much in the movie. PJ assassinated his character, and for no good reason.
@@mikegagne3263 Creates more drama as men are weak... So, people who didn't read the book are thinking will Faramir go down his brother's path because of their father or just the corruption of the ring. We don't have the book Denethor so naturally Faramir isn't the same. But there is much more tragedy and Shakespearean themes surrounding father and son relationship.
@@powerofberzerker9487 well making Aragorn a sadsack and making Treebeard a dumbass also created more drama, but still suck. Those movies were made by people who had seen way too many movies.
@@brovold72 Aragorn isn't a sadsack but a stoic, serious, survivor type of man. He is often thinking about living up to his name and ancestors and not failing where they have failed. He also daydreams about Arwen and everything relating to her and Eowyn.
@@brovold72 Treebeard isn't a dumbass but an ancient creature that's nearing its end. Sort of senile, slow and very isolated(doesn't know the world as he used to). He is goofy sometimes in a way old people can be, nothing wrong with that.
Potatoes you boil them, mash them, stick them into the stew
You keep nasty chips😂
Even you couldn't say no to that.
Oh yes we could. Give'em to me raw and wriggling!
You're hopeless!
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WTF I’m watching the Two Towers as I type, and was thinking just before you posted this, “what are the differences between the books and movies?” And then you post this! Crazy
What is your profile pic of?
That is crazy!
19:53 Fun fact: Vattnadal is actually the name for Rivendell in the swedish translation.
It’s been years since I’ve read any of the LotR trilogy. The part you mentioned about Gollum not knowing why Frodo and Sam were going to Mordor might be true in the films too. To my knowledge (I haven’t watched the movies in nearly 2 years), neither Frodo nor Sam said anything about destroying the ring in front of Gollum in the films until after Frodo spares Gollum when he attacks him in Shelob’s lair.
After Gollum says the precious made him attack his master, Frodo says he has to destroy the ring for both their sakes. Gollum freaks out and pounces on Frodo, who then throws Gollum off the mountainside. I never noticed the correlation until you mentioned it here. Just a cool little tidbit I thought of.
"Bring your pretty face to my axe!"
🤣
Best Gimli quote ever
Also, yes! Celebrating the differences between the books and movies yet again!
Dont remember the TTT book as well as RotK...time for a reread!! 😁
Books are so long that by the time I reach the end, I'm already forgetting the beginning. But all the well, I can just keep on re-reading
I can hear the thumbnail
LOL! Same haha
I really appreciate how Tolkien didn't write the infirmity of Théoden as caused by an elaborate sorcerer's curse but rather an ambiguous mental affliction (something he may have been familiar with himself as a war weary veteran), that was only amplified by Grima's insideous influence.
I understand that cinema is a visual medium and changes had to be made by Jackson to convey this to the audience in a more spectacular way.
I agree. However, it upsets me that Tolkien never showed Theoden react to the death of his son more explicitly. It always strikes me as a huge missing element that they filled in with the movies.
Sweet! perfect timing to watch in bed!
Quarantine is getting rough, I’m gonna run out of lembas bread. What I need is some nice good taters 🥔
Don't forget a nice piece of Fried Fish.
Andrew Varney we eatz it raw and wiggling, you keep nasty chips
What’s taters?
Michael Stebbings PO! TA! TOES!
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You know when a Middle Earth video starts with "..Yoysten (sorry if I misspell) here" you're in for a treat
Wish I got to see the Huorn. And the eyes that peered out of the forest as they passed by. But I see why it was cut in the film. And Aragorn was prepared when he jousted wills with Sauron in the Palantir.
Comparing the Movie to the Books is the BEST release Anyone has done to date.. THANK YOU .
Faramir in the book has a rock-solid moral compass. His key line is something like: "Even if the ring of power were laying alongside the highway I would not stop to pick it up." Once he finds out Frodo has the ring Faramir is not tempted in the slightest to take it from him or hinder his quest. I don't see the point in the movie of having Faramir deciding to take the ring to Gondor and changing his mind because of Sam's (...there's good in this world that's worth fighting for...) speech.
People can debate about certain scenes in the movie compared to the books, but I always thought the movie did a great job when Gandalf releases Theoden from the spell. One of many favorite scenes from TTT, the film. Thanks for posting!
It's somewhat ironic that Tolkien specifically warned a filmmaker in 1960s that Theoden most definitely was *not* under any kind of mind-control spell. But if there was a mistake to make, Jackson was likely to find it.
I am greatly enjoying this book vs movie comparison series! I especially like tracing the place names out on my giant Middle Earth map to follow where the characters are in their adventures and where they go next!
Very much looking forward to the next in this series in particular as well as the ROTK sessions.
Keep up the the quality work, as Sam says “The very highest” 🙌🏼
Uploaded 15 seconds ago? Count me in.
You bet. I’m going to start from the very beginning of the movies vs. books. Your videos are fantastic. It’s taking me a while to catch up, you have so many! Your content is absolutely amazing, a true labor of love. The illustrations, everything. Kudos.
Wooohoo! My favorite upload of the week. Thank you as always!💜
I have been away for a while...so busy. But im catching up. Thank you VERY MUCH for all the content. It means so much to many of us. I hope u see these comments. "May it be a light to you in dark places when all other lights go out."
I wonder what your gonna do when you covered everything about tolkien
I don't think that day will come...
Sam's voice: "Oh Tolkien's works... and look! More Tolkien's works!" ;)
laughs in *Unfinished Tales*
Men of Westeros.
I have a feeling something will come out to argue about.
*you're
*Tolkien
Thanks for another great video!
Yes, Jackson did take liberties with Tolkien's works. Still he did, by far, the best portrayal of LOT series. Diving deep into LOT by reading is a very different experience than watching a film. As I'm sure you would agree. Both great experiences in my lifetime. Thanks for sharing.:) :) :)
He did great to put it into theatrical form. It would obviously have to have taken a lot of liberties to tell generally the entire story and follow a good pace audiences could stay with without making 6 films. The books are amazing and the movies are an awesome gateway and probably the best films of this genre made to this day.
I guess Im kinda randomly asking but does anyone know a good website to watch new movies online ?
@@kameronleighton517 you can rent or buy them on RUclips.
I’m always blown away by your videos. Your Tolkien knowledge and your passion for his works is inspiring. Your channel is easily one of my favorites overall, and it’s my absolute favorite Tolkien channel. Keep up the amazing work!
Man, wait to you get to ROTK of Book vs Movie it will be Crazy!!!
Sam's Quote, "By rights we shouldn't be here, but we are..." Is very Meta...Because they shouldn't!!!
Well with work done, I get to relax, watch some of your videos and some Movies/TV Shows!!!
Thanks for the 3rd Part of Two Towers What's Different...
Until Gandalf's Fireworks *Hey wasn't that one of my Video suggestion a While (2 LiveStreams) ago* Marion Baggins Out!!!
Always good to hear from you Marion! Thanks for the support! Oh yes I remember you suggesting that, thank you for throwing that idea out, it is perfect!
@@MenoftheWest You're welcome Mellon!!!
I had an old DM for fun, has us do 2 hobbits vs giant spider. We spent 6hrs dying over and over with the occasional win for the Hobbits!
Excellent. And well met with the Gandalf's fireworks video. Great timing. Can't wait!
Hello Yoysten! Happy early 4th of July to you. I wanted to give you a cool "what if" scenario to explain in a future video. I wanted to know what you think would happen if the Istari had come during the 2nd age and played an active role in the war of the last alliance? Would Saruman still turn evil, will Isildur still claim the ring, how would the 2nd age of Middle Earth play out with the wizards involvement? I'm very excited and curious on what your thoughts are on the subject.
Hey! Thank you, you too! That is a great question! I think if the Istari had taken apart of the great alliance of Men and Elves, and stayed true to each other, Sauron would not have stood a chance. Possibly, if they had knowledge, wisdom and foresight enough for it, the Wizards could have convinced Men and Elves to destroy the One Ring, if it was at all possible. Those are my thoughts at least!
@@MenoftheWest another "what if". What if Numenor never fell into the sea? What would increased numbers in the Third Age change things?
Gimli: "ah we can takem."
Aragorn: "Thats alot of orc we'll have to jump."
Gimli: "I can not jump now toss me"
Gimli: "Wait don't tell the elf."
Aragorn: "Not a word."
Tolkien, hmm..ending think not this discussion has carried for generations.
So excited for the next installment.
I just love your ability to tell these great Tolkien tales and you do it so all with such knowledge and admiration of his world
Men of the West, great video! Enjoy your Tuesday!💯🙏👐
Good video!! Keep up the good work
Fantastic. Love all your posts. These are all so well researched
Great video love your work have a great day
Something that hasn't changed, something that will never be different is my adoration for you. My sweet Yoyboy, such a blessing you are ;)
I have a question. Wasn't there a third age tale tale about someone in a boat who ended up in the Ice Bay of Forochel or something like that? I'd like to know more about that story.
Indeed, my friend! Arvedui, the Last King of Arthedain! I'll add that idea to my list! Thank you!
@@MenoftheWest OooOoo. Yay! Thank you, I wasn't quite sure.
Arvedui was the last king of Arnor. It was he who gave the ring of bwahir to the men in the north. His ship had the last two palantiri of Arnor, Annuminas and Amon Sul, both lost to the Ice in 1975 of the Third Age.
@@shadowofchaos8932 Oh ya, that's right. Now I'm starting to remember.
I love this series! Just like lembas bread in which one nibble can keep a Man on his feet for days, so too does the content of one video from Men Of The West, satisfy my Tolkien hunger for a week; if just barely ;)
This is a great video series!
One difference (as in, the movies don't talk about it at all) that is in my opinion worth mentioning is about Common Speech and the language of the Rohirrim. With them, we have to differentiate between how it is given in the books and how it was actually spoken. This is different from Quenya and Sindarin; they are given as the elves would speak them, but the Common Speech is "translated" to English by Tolkien, as he pretends to be merely the translator of the Red Book and not the creator of these stories. Rohirric is related to Common Speech (and more closely to the Hobbit dialect) but more archaic, so Tolkien "translates" it as Old English to draw a parallel - Rohirric sounds to a speaker of the Common Speech like Old English sounds to a speaker of modern English.
To give an example, in-universe the elves really say "Elbereth" (it's Sindarin that has no real-world equivalent, so Tolkien leaves the text "untranslated"), but they called Frodo "Maura" - Frodo is just a translation of the name, just like Rohan is actually called Lōgrad in-universe.
I've been binge watching this series in the past few days and I'm enjoying it a lot! Here's but a minor correction coming from a linguist who cannot help but mention such things: The plural of medium is media, not mediums. :)
Man you are just the best, I've just read the silmarilion and your videos are just so entertaining.
“His quality”...nice
It's in the book, spoken by Sam.
Hey, just because you used so many pictures from Lotro, I found it worth mentioning, that in the game the "Horse and the Rider" poem is written in anglo-saxon on the floor of Meduseld - which is pretty neat, cause it explains why Aragorn knows that poem so well; he did ride with Thengel and had been to his hall and would have read the poem there many times.
10:39 Po-Tay-To!
Great video as usual Yoystan.
I know it used to bug my wife and daughter when I'd say watching the movies, "But that's not how it happened!" But you know what: Despite this I still love the movies! Thanks for this series.
I feel like the journey through ithilien represents men fighting in a distant land during war and realizing that their home country is not so different from foreign ones that are ravaged by war. It acts as a warning to the consequences of the weariness of duty and what should happen if they fail.
This was the one bit in the film/book difference that irked me - I really didn't appreciate how they treated Faramir in the movie :( I understood WHY they did it, but I wasn't happy :(
Nice video
Very well organized separating the tmeline from the books and the movies wonder if there may be a comparison with the animations
Currently re-reading the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings found it hard to not think of the movies first time around
Love the videos dude keep it up !!!
Great video
I’ve been waiting forever for this!!!
The books have no taters, precious!
Why of course they do!
PO TA TOES!!!
Mae govannon, Yoysten. May Narya stoke the flame of hope within you during these times.
What's taters precious
PO! TA! TOES!
What's taters, eh?
This is a beautiful video. Keep up the good work!
"Legolas, two already!"
Can you do a video on what if the ents did not help merry and pippin
Faramir's vision of Boromir's boat and the flashback to Osgiliath actually happened in the opposite order than you told here.
The rape of Farimir's character in that movie has always bothered me even more than elves being at Helm's deep.
Yep, 100% agree.
Such a poor decision to bring him down, we didn't need two boromirs
Faramir posed a legitimate conundrum, though. His stoic refusal of corruption, while noble in the book, would kill the emotive impact of Frodo’s journey.
Also creates a little B plot of his rejection by his dad...
And I don’t think they had the narrative room to distinguish the strength of the Numenorian blood.
@@jackcoleman5955 nah, don't buy that weak defense of Peter Jackson's crappy character development. Only character who suffered worse than Faramir was Denethor himself.
@@jackcoleman5955 I hear what you're saying but have point out in the movie he never actually got the ring TO Denethor anyway, and his father's disaproval of him is present and obvious regardless of Faramir's intentions.
Anyway, it seems to me if he had let Sam and Frodo go (like in the book with that stern warning not to trust Gollum) it would make it all the more obvious Frodo is losing control of himself later on.
Excellent video!
I've been looking forward to this
Wonderful. But 0:32 - bridled rhymes with fry, not kid.
OK, so here's a question. In the two towers, why was the forbidden pool Golum was swimming in considered forbidden?
What if Gandalf was never separated from the fellowship in Moria? (They all escaped the Balrog and continued their journey?)
Jackson's treatment of The Ents is one of his biggest betrayals of Tolkien's vision, IMHO. Its pretty much the point where my interest in the films began to wane.
I really haven't thought much about the differences in the movie. What aspects of the ents story did you feel were betrayed?
@@tima5033 making them clueless as to Saruman's treachery, & making them unwilling to go to war, without Pippin tricking them. As bad a betrayal as the s**t they pulled with Faramir.
The language of the Rohirrim is not akin to Old English. Tolkien said he supplanted it with Old English to stimulate in the readers the feeling of almost understanding it yet couldn't that the hobbits would feel when hearing that language, much like he changed all Westron to modern(ish) English as the hobbits fully understand it.
what is this really cool game i keep seeing in these videos, when he needs to show a setting that hasnt been drawn
So far is there anything in the movies you prefer over the books?
Considering current events, would you ever do a video exploring Tolkien's views on race? A few not so great voices seem to hold LOTR and the Legendarium up as an example of either racism or as supporting racial superiority. I wonder if discussing things like Tolkien's letter to a German publisher pre-WW2, or his evolving views on Orcs, the fall of Numenor, or even Sam's thinking about the Southern Men (as touched on in this video) wouldn't be worth exploring. Controversial I know, but maybe necessary?
Peter Hackson Strikes again.
Please....can you make video about legolas mother and thranduil wife please....
Amazing content A++ ✅
The Men of Gondor, that include Faramir and Boromir, were black haired. Why they made them both blonde is beyond Me. But there is no telling with Peter Jackson's reasoning.
sir.. make whats da difference of the LOTR return of da king
Curious how Salamon looks mysteriously like Count Dooku???!
Are you joking
Yes I know it's Sir Christopher Lee playing both of the characters LoL 😂
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Wowza.
Faramir's character was somewhat disappointing in the movies. Great series!.
You can't top Tolkien's March of the Ents.
The Arwen scenes in TT and ROTK are painful as they clearly just eat up time from the actual book material. As a result, the new characters are all sidelined, which is a flaw FOTR does not have. TT and ROTK fall into the trap of over emphasizing the characters from the first film and not the new characters.
Also it was a huge mistake to not end on Shelob. It's really absurd how much of the film ROTK is actually material from TT.
There’s about 9 hour differents from the book and movie. 😁😁
What if everyone in the Lord of the rings universe had Lightsabers instead!! Just curious. 😉
That's frickin Obi-wan Kenobi 😂😂😂
Even if it had lightsabors it wouldn't be as bad as starwars
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théoden looks like robert plant
Am I the only one who wants him to read an audio book of The Lord of the Rings .
Wow, they really dropped the ball in portraying Edoras in the movie. Aside from the Hall, it was a completely depressing collection of primitive thatch and straw huts. I GET that they wanted to play up the sense of despair but I feel they should have been able to do that while showing the true nature of Edoras.
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I can understand fans not liking Faramir being an antagonist in the movie, but at heart he is still a good person who is trying to do what is best to save his country and does do the right thing in the end. What one prefers comes down to a matter of preference.
I do prefer Frodo in the movie wanting to save Gollum and Gollum actually trying to make a turn towards being good, it adds to the tragedy of Gollum's character.
What if
Thror defeated Azog
Isildor still lost the ring but survived
The elves helped the dwarves when Eribor fell
first
It would be great if the publisher came out with a Lord of the Rings Edition in the proper sequence rather then the way it was written
The movies are to different.
The movie scripts were written with a left writing foot. I never really cared for the movies.
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