This is the type of ebike that I like to get/replace my current one, kind of dual use - commuter and trail usage. But I will wait another year until they sorted out the issues and get a later manufactured item along the line.
UPDATE on 9/7/24 - Velotric updated the controller firmware (version v078). Happy to say that they have made a huge improvement in the power delivery, particularly on hills. I can now very much recommend the bike.
@@EMTBReview While I don't disagree that mids are generally better on hills - I have a hub drive Aventon Aventure that currently puts the Summit to shame on hills in pedal assist. Like you, I find myself using the throttle on the Summit more than I would like. Not sure they will be able to fix with firmware alone.
One thing that these companies making the cheaper e-bikes out of primarily China is very good at doing. That is changing the Publics perception of definitions. They have been pretty successful convincing people that a class 3 e-bike can throttle up to 20 mph. Of course this is not the case at all in any state in the United States. The definition of traditional mountain bikes has been that it was a competition suitable bike. So something like the Yamaha YDX Moro, was considered to be an entry level. These companies are slapping the name e-mountain bike on anything that doesn’t crumble as soon as it leaves pavement. People should really be aware of what they are getting. This is not trying to bash the quality of this bike. it is simply trying to make people aware of what they are getting. As an example, the fork on this bike says straight on it, not to be used to jump. Yet that is not what the common person thinks of when they are riding an e-mountain bike. Is it a bad thing that this bike was not built to jump? Of course not. But I do think it is pretty deceptive to slap a title on it that would typically say something different than what the bike actually is. If we go back to the way, these companies have changed the perception of the classes in the United States. Just as an example of what kind of ramifications that can have. Somebody’s riding in a bike lane on what they consider their class three bicycle. A bike that has a throttle and goes over 20 miles an hour with assistance. A car runs into them. When the insurance company finds out what they were riding, not only have they just lost their right to recovery for injuries, etc. They also will probably end up with a citation and be considered at fault. It would be no different than riding a KTM 450 dirtbike on the bike lane. Again, I am not saying these bikes are bad bikes. They are probably added much to the industry and I do ride some of these bikes. But people really should know what their purchasing. At least that way they can make the choice.
Usually not as Class 1 is the common allowed emtb on trail networks. Fire roads and private property or small dirt path systems are best for Class 2-3.
Velotric Customer Service does not recommend that mods or changes be made to the Summit 1 bike. They will not advise as to any changes and will void their warranty if the customer makes any mods or changes . Velotric Customer service takes forever to resolve even the smallest warranty claims and ships parts by the slowest methods possible. I would not buy products made by Velotric. The bike is not dropper-post ready and they contract out their customer service, so you do not speak with a real Velotric employee and they are not helpful
Velotric Customer Service does not recommend that mods or changes be made to the Summit 1 bike. They will not advise as to any changes and will void their warranty if the customer makes any mods or changes . Velotric Customer service takes forever to resolve even the smallest warranty claims and ships parts by the slowest methods possible. I would not buy products made by Velotric. The bike is not dropper-post ready and they contract out their customer service, so you do not speak with a real Velotric employee and they are not helpful
This is the type of ebike that I like to get/replace my current one, kind of dual use - commuter and trail usage. But I will wait another year until they sorted out the issues and get a later manufactured item along the line.
UPDATE on 9/7/24 - Velotric updated the controller firmware (version v078). Happy to say that they have made a huge improvement in the power delivery, particularly on hills. I can now very much recommend the bike.
Hey!!! I Have An E-MTB Called The “Emotorad” X 1, But It’s A Single Speed E-Bike… But The “Emotorad” T-Rex Has A Multi Speed Gear System…
I got mine yesterday and yes I feel the hesitation in pulling hills , I prefer a mid drive feel instead
Exactly my experience. Mid drive is definitely better on hills.
@@EMTBReview While I don't disagree that mids are generally better on hills - I have a hub drive Aventon Aventure that currently puts the Summit to shame on hills in pedal assist. Like you, I find myself using the throttle on the Summit more than I would like. Not sure they will be able to fix with firmware alone.
Excellent relevant review from someone very knowledgable.
Glad it was helpful! That is music to my ears.
One thing that these companies making the cheaper e-bikes out of primarily China is very good at doing. That is changing the Publics perception of definitions. They have been pretty successful convincing people that a class 3 e-bike can throttle up to 20 mph. Of course this is not the case at all in any state in the United States. The definition of traditional mountain bikes has been that it was a competition suitable bike. So something like the Yamaha YDX Moro, was considered to be an entry level. These companies are slapping the name e-mountain bike on anything that doesn’t crumble as soon as it leaves pavement. People should really be aware of what they are getting. This is not trying to bash the quality of this bike. it is simply trying to make people aware of what they are getting. As an example, the fork on this bike says straight on it, not to be used to jump. Yet that is not what the common person thinks of when they are riding an e-mountain bike. Is it a bad thing that this bike was not built to jump? Of course not. But I do think it is pretty deceptive to slap a title on it that would typically say something different than what the bike actually is. If we go back to the way, these companies have changed the perception of the classes in the United States. Just as an example of what kind of ramifications that can have. Somebody’s riding in a bike lane on what they consider their class three bicycle. A bike that has a throttle and goes over 20 miles an hour with assistance. A car runs into them. When the insurance company finds out what they were riding, not only have they just lost their right to recovery for injuries, etc. They also will probably end up with a citation and be considered at fault. It would be no different than riding a KTM 450 dirtbike on the bike lane. Again, I am not saying these bikes are bad bikes. They are probably added much to the industry and I do ride some of these bikes. But people really should know what their purchasing. At least that way they can make the choice.
What budget dropper post do you recommend for this bike? Thanks… Like your vids!
Any news of these being sold in the UK?
Wondering if you can do a review on Super Human Bikes Weapon or F5 Trail?
I'll be on the lookout for these.
Nice review! Are you allowed class 2 e-bikes on the local trails?
Usually not as Class 1 is the common allowed emtb on trail networks. Fire roads and private property or small dirt path systems are best for Class 2-3.
Nobody is policing trails to check your class, not sure why ppl think this???
Nice review
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On the video it sounds really loud on ascent.
I thought it sounded loud on the video too. I just got this bike a week ago and haven't noticed it being this loud in person on inclines.
Super wimpy trail.
Rrrright? The drone gets lost unfortunately on the super gnarly technical
Velotric Customer Service does not recommend that mods or changes be made to the Summit 1 bike. They will not advise as to any changes and will void their warranty if the customer makes any mods or changes . Velotric Customer service takes forever to resolve even the smallest warranty claims and ships parts by the slowest methods possible. I would not buy products made by Velotric. The bike is not dropper-post ready and they contract out their customer service, so you do not speak with a real Velotric employee and they are not helpful
Velotric Customer Service does not recommend that mods or changes be made to the Summit 1 bike. They will not advise as to any changes and will void their warranty if the customer makes any mods or changes . Velotric Customer service takes forever to resolve even the smallest warranty claims and ships parts by the slowest methods possible. I would not buy products made by Velotric. The bike is not dropper-post ready and they contract out their customer service, so you do not speak with a real Velotric employee and they are not helpful