yeah, his content barely held itself together, and he resorted to reddit reactions to save content, to the point where he bacame your bog standard reaction channel, nothing interesting
@@bigfrankfraser1391 Well, he did the things he got exposed for things he did well before that. BTW, I also hypothesized that it may have been the car crash, but that was in 2017 and the initial dms were from 2016.
I feel like if he didnt talk bad about terroriser and rhe others, and having the biggest ego ever, then less people wiuld have a reason to dislike him and find stuff about him
I feel like people just forget about that convo he had with someone on discord about how people would let this go and he'd end up fine later on. That convo is what's keeping me from buying into any of his bs.
Also on Snap, he cropped out a part that really gets to the point. He just doesn't want to show that. It shows he's lying to people once again, tricking them to believe.
7 months later and he's lost around 700k subs, got a collective of 630k dislikes, lost a brand sponsorship, allegedly resorted to using bots, lost all of his friends, and is hated by much of the internet, and is basically known as the biggest RUclips predator
I was Craig's biggest fan for years. At one point he was one of the only youtubers that I watched consistently. Now, I can't even bring myself to watch old videos if hes in it.
You seem like you’ve got a bit of the scoop here, I haven’t been on RUclips for awhile and I have no idea what is happening here, could you please fill me in a bit here?
I think Mini took Ohm’s advice and left altogether. Could just be speculation, but if he’s told this by an old-friend, that basically confirms to Craig that nobody wants him here anymore
If I know anything, he’s basically hiding until the drama clears up so he can return. If he left for good, then there should’ve been an actual video explaining what he did was wrong, why he left and how he’s gonna fix it instead of ignoring it. Trust me, I’ve seen this happen too much and it even happens on Twitter with three recent asshats getting called out for what they did.
@@demonicdonte7892 I disagree Mini does not seem like the guy who wants to admit his actions, but knows he isn’t gonna bounce back in any way So I believe he has cut his losses and left altogether
@@3Guys1Video I did say that it was a maybe he would i return because he knows what he did and if he doesn’t, everything else will be gone to a point where every social platform he’s on will be deleted permanently. But he better left permanently
@pplayersrock I don't think so his behavior towards Brian during the whole thing along with his other encounters with RUclipsrs makes Ohm seem like an asshole
@@COOLPEAK there's no way. If he does come back he will defiantly be ran off yt quickly by the comment section and fan base of other youtubers...plus i dont think yt will allow it
Mini Ladd only apologized for 2/3 of what he done. Flirting and threatening suicide. But not what the flirting led to and the reason why he was making threats.
An honest question here: If Mini Ladd does indeed step down from the platform for a while, either a few months or years, what will/can he do for financial situations? Now, I'm not say he deserves to go back to what he did on RUclips before all this, but tbh what can Craig do since he's previous work experience was doing RUclips for the past 6-8 years (or however many years since he did it). AND these allegations are not something tht can be hidden by possible employers. This is a legitimate question of mine. Now, granted Mini could very well have enough finances saved up from his years of RUclips tht he can survive for enough time to pass to come back or go back to college to learn a new skill. But the point remains when the last actual job was nearly 8 years ago (besides doing RUclips for those past 8 years), there is very limited options unless he goes back to school to study a field. Even less due to what he did coming to light. Again, I'm not saying he deserves forgiveness. Hell, I'm never watching his videos again due to all of this. I might occasionally look him up to see if anything has changed, but I won't do much other than tht. I watched him rarely ever since I realized he no longer played with the rest of the VanossGaming crew back in 2018 and as soon as I heard about this, I unsubbed from him. So, from my point of view, he can still try to make RUclips his career, but I'm not gonna be a part of what helps him to grow back or support him. And I do believe tht his apology was sincere enough tht he's sorry for finally getting called out on it, but is legitimately trying to find a positive way forward. Everyone has their own opinion on the matter. I said my own 2 cents on the matter.
Once you become a millionaire you just have to be smart with it. Realistically if you are not a fucking dumbass and will blow all your money away on cars and shit. You can survive for decades with that amount of money with investing and maybe buying property or something
I believe it would be better if society could give him a second chance, BUT, it must be earned. I feel that if society was not like "therapy doesn't matter, don't come back!" and replaced with the proper earning thing, then maybe more of those who needs proper help might at least try. Many more victims could probably get proper disclosed apologies too. It's even possible Craig may have at least tried to apologize because of the whole "Want your career back? Then proper apologized!" thing. Even Keemstar maybe tried that (but then he turned into I guess the wrong direction). If he had no hope of his career on RUclips, he probably would not have done it.
I have a feeling that most of his subscribers aren’t watching, likes, and dislikes his videos even though when Miniladd has about 5,180,000 subscribers.
Yeah but tbh I know mini did wrong and shouldn’t be forgiven unless he can do some good in the world however I do think that a lot of these you tubers who always post this shit not for the drama for MONEY for views it’s real easy to jump on drama and put a title with “vanoss crew member” sense their popular it’s better for views plus I personally think that the only ones who should be allowed to voice their opinions are the friends and only the friends
@@MrxNiiggles just because he said he wasn’t in the group doesn’t mean he wasn’t in the older videos. People say he was in the group because he appeared in the older videos and he was funny or interesting enough that people recognize him for being in those videos You know what that sounds like It sounds like he was in the group at least when the group started
He hid evidence via cropping a photo, didn’t tell the whole truth in multiple ways, and he got exposed for it rather than him explaining himself. Anyone that forgives him, alright but ask yourself, “If the girls that were effected my own daughter, would I forgive a grown man s3xting them?”
@@RegenAgent Craig should 100% be punished worse than the girls. Even still, the girls were manipulated by that a-hole. Literally one couldn’t expose him bc he threatened “😭🔫”. If it were me, hell yea I wouldn’t say anything. Yeah I’d do whatever he wants me to do bc I’m in it w/ a somewhat-celeb. That’s my argument to that. Should the girls be punished? No. They were completely manipulated, and it takes a huge toll on mental health
@@gaugekiefer2857 don’t you understand the word, “manipulation?” The girl was pressured to not saying MiniLadd is a p3d, all because he wanted to die. That’s after the stuff happened. Before? Put yourself in a similar situation. Let’s say someone you’ve been watching for years hits you up on Twitter DM’s. You’re suspicious, but insist. Come to find out it’s the real deal. They wanna talk more, and ask if you’re down. Who wouldn’t deny that? You could potentially be famous by association. Now take that situation and put it on these girls. One worked for mini (I think) and one didn’t. Let’s talk about the one that didn’t. She was a fan. A fan, that’s underage. Underage people can easily be manipulated bc they don’t have the true knowledge to perceive when something is off. Don’t believe me? Why do children get abducted so easily? Bc they’re impressionable. Anyway, should the girls be punished? I 100% say no now. Manipulation sucks, especially by a celebrity who used his power to get what he wanted. And as someone who has been manipulated, granted not on that scale, I relate to them. It’s f-ed up. Understand how messed up the situation is, and how is humans are, and then tell me they should be punished bc they were “in control” or whatever you believe. Bc they weren’t. That’s like saying a 9 yr old had full control over a grown man r-ping them. They don’t.
I am not a fan of Mini but i watched them all growing up as a Vanoss fan. To me personally I think craig needs to LITERALLY step down from RUclips. Take a few years and MAYBE MAYBE ease your way back after everything has "died down". I cant relate Mini to any other RUclipsr that has taken time since lots of them just made that decision on their own and it wasn't because of actions they made as a content creator to ruin them and make them step down. Seananners stepped down for a few good years and now this man is back, better than ever, has life figured out and is setting sail on RUclips again. Do i think taking time away will help the situation in Craigs perspective; no not really. As TJV says, "this is the internet and no matter how long ago it was that will FOREVER be on record or your mental". Take bashurverse for example. The man came to youtube, built a platform for himself and someone dug up his past for a mistake he made similar to Mini and it RUINED HIM. It was youtube news for MONTHS. That shit is PRIVATE but once you make that choice you already know you are guilty by assumption. Bashur ran from everything and disappeared from any social media. And now he goes by Toasty on Twitch and is trying to grow again. Do I think we need to judge someone forever for the actions they caused? No. Do i think it was right of Mini to do what he did? No. He knew it was wrong and still did it. But in due time; DUE TIME it may change. Mini needs to step down for a few years and MAYBE he can rethink his choice as a content creator
Toast need a hug man I watch his video before you sent this and he was really sad and I want to give him a hug, not only him but the other vanoss crew members well except Ohm and Lui. We need to give them all hugs.
@@DustyEchozy well yes Ohm was play with the Vanoss crew and when the miniladd drama came out he started to beef with Brian and say the Brian made up the drama and shit happened if you want to know more about him and what he did you should check out some drama channels that made a video about him.and TJV made a video about him too you should check him out.
Ohm was kinda shitty at the beginning of all this but at least Ohm isn't a peice of shit. (fron what i heard everything was fixed? idk its been a minute since i looked into it) i really hope it was at least
His body language is non existent in the apology video, I was a fan of Mini/Craig but after a friend of mine brought it to my attention I did some research came up factual and not only that I have had to tell my daughter she had to stop watching him and this broke her heart as she is/was a die-hard Mini Ladd fan but after I explained what he did she has gone away from him, for you parents out there with the situation about Mini is think about your children please
I have 2 sisters that love watching his Meme Streams, I swear to God if Mini ever had contact with my sisters in the way he did with the two women he had sensual texts with, I would have pulled an Abby from the Last of Us Pt. 2 since Mini loved playing Golf with Friends.
he fact that the group made the humor, is what got him to become what he is now. Every person in that group, is this funny because of the friends group. only a very select few can create video's on their own that will still be fun to watch (imo, only Delirious)
Insane that ppl are worried about his mental health and not the CHILDREN he took advantage of.....men need to hold other men accountable- the good ones do at least!
can you all not be so MEAN? Like it's past is past and you guys still hated him. And what if that the VanossCrew will be leaving one by one having serious problems do you guys think that all of you hate them?
@@PufferMintt264 dude stop. Just fucking stop. This man did horrible things to young children. He isnt sorry hes sad that he got caught and now hes career is toast. Hes a piece of shit that needs to be gone from a place where he can easily do it again.
Like how anyone can do one fucked up thing in the world, then apologize and actually try to do better, but the entire world just wants that person gone from existence... But no, we have nigga's out here taking lives from other people and all they do is get sent to jail, only to be released back into the world and do it all over again. I'm not saying that what Mini did was right in the slightest, but I honestly think that he's at least making an attempt to be better. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, it's just my opinion.
@@chickenboi795 look at my reply to the other Craig Thompson white knight, yeah I’m not calling him by his channel name anymore, it’s associated with good memories BEFORE all this
@@chickenboi795 so him not feeling sorry or not showing any signs of feeling sorry for the girls he manipulated means he's trying to better himself? U call CAP
the victim wasted their time saying "move on" because now that Mini is in the "dramalert spotlight" as I call it the point of no return has been reached
I feel sorry for toast and the rest of the Vanoss group got caught in the cross fire of the situation. They founded themselves against drama and then 3 people tear it apart through drama.
It funny how he put the video title as vanoss crew but soclosetotoast wasn't in the crew at all he was in some videos but he never played with them at all
mini won't leave he'll be quiet for a few months and anyone curious will look him up and see the last vid being the apology video and think he's actually left to think about shit. Really he isn't as he mentions a PR team he'll so some shit for other youtubers like editing footage blah blah blah then come back and if people let him be he will back like nothing happened but if it doesnt then his PR team will drop him
@@dooler0547 happened before I mean has nobody heard of jaystation faking his GF's death for views and she had no idea the only way she found out was through her parents thinking she was dead
there is a fine difference between forgiveness and facing the consequences, i dont forgive mini, not yet, not until i see some actual change in him from him, which i realize might never happen or never see the light of day. the consequences for his actions is that his internet career is over, and his reputation as both mini ladd and craig is forever tarnished. Forgiveness should never be out of question, but after fucking up so much so many times its gonna be hard to earn
@@johnrossi6189 yes i do agree that he should be legally punished, im not very familiar with the law in these matters, but im not sure if what he did is enough to send him to prison
You should never forgiving him someone who threatens to kill him self if he didn’t get nudes form an under age girl that person does not need forgiveness
This is for everyone but please make sure to not hold grudges against people even for what they have done in the past. Even if you don’t like him, don’t spread hate around cuz we need to listen to God’s word and at least we can forgive. If you disagree it is fine but at least you read this and I hope you consider and try to forgive. I’m not getting on ur channel either because everything is opinion based and thank you for talking about the topic!
I can forgive and forget but not when things are unforgettable and unforgivable unfortunately I don't believe in God and I won't forgive for what he did but thank you for the positive message
@@forgeguy2126 Np btw. Even if you do not believe in God, I still will treat you as I would treat anyone else, and that is with happiness and acceptance! :) I hope you can accept me saying God bless you though, and if you can't then its fine :)!
Seems like whenever these youtubers become too big, too famous, or too popular that's when the harrowing secrets come out and you find out just how despicable, manipulative, and even psychotic they are underneath it all. I've seen people like this before. They use their fame, influence, and even "mental health" as a shield to hide behind whenever they do these things. And victims of this never truly see it coming until it's too late, and then THEY suffer. Trust me when I say, if he doesn't suffer any kind of consequences for this, (and no I'm not just talking about his dumb channel getting cancelled) he will do it again. He will. And it will be worse.
Not on mini's side because what he did to the 2 girls was not a good thing, but the only thing I dislike about this video is the fact that he calls the girls minors and says he should not be on the platform because he can talk to little kids inappropriately. It came out many times that the 2 girls he talked to were 16-17 when he was 21. Yes that is weird to me as well but in the United States that is the age of concent and no longer holds the 2 girls as minors. Even at 16 they can be charged for adult charges in all states for crime. So for him to be banned from RUclips because you believe he will talk to younger children I feel like is wrong to say when you're painting a picture of him talking to 10 year Olds. Again this is not me standing up for Craig because what he did was wrong to those girls and they shouldn't have went through that. Its just my opinion on people trying to exile him from the platform.
Well when you're in that situation, especially with someone you were a fan of that's famous or well known, it can put you in a difficult situation. Eventually the victims came out when at least one did, because it made them realize he did this with other people and that made it worse.
I already replied to someone, but I felt like I should share this here too: I believe it would be better if society could give him a second chance, BUT, it must be earned. I feel that if society was not like "therapy doesn't matter, don't come back!" and replaced with the proper earning thing, then maybe more of those who needs proper help might at least try. Many more victims could probably get proper disclosed apologies too. It's even possible Craig may have at least tried to apologize because of the whole "Want your career back? Then proper apologized!" thing. Even Keemstar maybe tried that (but then he turned into I guess the wrong direction). If he had no hope of his career on RUclips, he probably would not have done it.
I know, I want him to come back because he make good jokes and looked like a good guy and also love his comedy, but looks is not the thing here, it's his personality. What I mean is he should be earning his keep of the apology. Because of this, he never got the second chance to REFORM, I never had a chance at reshaping my mindset and a Messed up childhood. But Miniladd needs help to get that second chance.
@@TheOnlyPonyAnonyous I personally feel that some of the reason why MiniLadd didn't fully try in the early places was probably due to fear of life being ruined, which is an effect I blame on some of society. There really are sadly some people online that is against people wanting to start over properly, which at this point such attitude is partly complicit as to why some victims don't get their disclosure and why some don't bother getting the proper therapy they need. But if MiniLadd does get proper therapy assuming he didn't, and proved that properly then I might get on his side...
@@SpaceOmega-zz6vs thanks for sharing with me and other people who see my comments, I hope the best of luck to Mini restarting life without RUclips career.
@@TheOnlyPonyAnonyous You're welcome. I do hope he will be able to still come on RUclips lawfully and be around with those that believes in second chances, but if he can't handle that, then hopefully he can enjoy life without it lawfully.
I thought mini was done being funny around 2018ish. I dont forgive mini for what hes done but I dont really know the situation. Ive read and listened to alot and I think craig just doesn't want to face harsh realities. I do want to put out thaf using words like R*": or child in this situation I think are inaccurate towards the crime. Harassment and Teenager feels like a better fit.
First no one every said R# (at least to my knowledge) and kid and teenager are kinda the same as Craig was a fully grown adult. Second i would say more manipulation than harassment,but it still applies
I still don't understand why you say it's part of the Vanoss Crew? I mean I've been watching been out since I was little I don't even know who this guy is. No disrespect to him and I hate that he also feels betrayed by mini Ladd, but I don't even know who this guy is ready to be considered part of the Vanoss Crew
he actually was my favorite person on the vanoss crew for a while, then i got annoyed by him and didn't watch any videos with him in it, though this was before all this drama
In response to 7:45 as much as I agree he should be off the platform would it even happen? I mean look at Logan Paul. He made a video where him and his friends are poking fun out of a dead body...and he's still here! So if they won't hold him accountable on any platform, what makes you think they'll take Mini off YT so easily? That's the problem with people like this. We should stop just talking about this shit and take this to the people who can actually do something about cancellation, and actually hold all of these people accountable, no matter what they did! If anybody has any suggestions on how we can all do that, I'm all ears.
I am still sad about Miniladd/Craig but I am still Loyal to him. Because I have hope for him to Rehabilitate. But IF any of you disagree with me, it's a agree to Disagree...
You are the type of people i like i can see that truly want him to change,so even though i won't watch him again you aren't hated by me just cause you still watch him.
I hate minis damn gutts...it ruined my childhood.. I watched him for so long just to have this happen so I will never forgive him but if you want him to get better and just say it instead of shoving it down people's throats then that's okay with me.
He is you might say the only people in the crew are the famous ones like terroriser, wildcat, delirious, nogla and basically but there are others who don’t show up in every video but are still part of the crew like 4 zero and toast
@@gamergeek_2470 yeah I get that, but vanossgaming losing a little of his views over the past months and views are not going faster and content slowly dying. I know Mini Ladd content going bad and it’s not the pedo situation (already know). It’s his stupid Reddit videos and meme stream videos. It’s gotten boring and not interesting content. He needs go back with crew or find some good people or let it die out in couple years.
@@djanthonyrap8222 i can see what your saying,but i don't think anyone would to play with someone who has been hiding the fact that he was doing the things he was doing.
they are still minors whose brains haven't developed fully, what are you trying to prove with this comment. Either way, it's fucked up, there is no excusing it.
I understand that while everyone knows Mini Ladd, Toast has a different perspective because he knew him as Craig but my thing is... so did the people he hurt... They knew him personally, they were close to him and he still did what he did. Toast’s argument is weird because he’s saying “I know him as (this person) so I believe the words that’s coming out of this mouth” like congratu-fucking-lations you “know” a guy... but you didn’t know him enough to know what he was doing? So you didn’t know him, you’re spewing this “forgiveness is key” bullshit but it’s stupid lol Unfriend the guy, move on
Those people did know him personally yes,but toast knew mini for way more years. Toast has know mini for who knows how long compared to the girls and what he saying is he knew him on a deeper level. The girls saw Craig as the man they look up to on RUclips,toast saw him as Craig period.
@@johnrossi6189 you don't know what i mean I'm saying he has know craig long enough to know if what he is saying and his tone is truthful I'm not saying that he knew about this because they haven't talked in a really long time so of course he is not going to know about this what i am saying and what he means is that he kind of believes that mini is truly sorry,because of his tone.
@@patsy1979 but i think the original comment is saying that its kinda pointless acting like you "knowing" someone helps you know whether they are lying or not because clearly they had no idea who mini actually was.
As much as all this is unacceptable behaviour this news is very upsetting as a longtime fan.. Nobody likes to find out the darker and more f’d up side of the people they looked up too and grew up watching.. it’s horrible.. I do not think people like him and other youtubers in similar or the same situation deserve any chance on this platform and its good these things are coming to the light, however its painful to watch and it feels like a bit of my past just died :/
Easy fix to this , just ignore him and let him do whatever and if anyone new subbed to him tell them what happened and they will leave, so just ignore and we good.
I am a victim I’m not a victim for a mini labb but I have been abused I don’t think I could ever forgive me laugh because I can never forget my abuser.
can I just add the fact an actual professional has checked him out and he certainly is not being bs but I do absolutely agree with however but no that very last video and the craig stuff was sincere and truthful in the end
I saw a video a Body Language Analyst watch miniladds final apology (the last one anyway) and honestly i think the guy got fooled. These RUclips's build a persona that they actually believe at times. So i think mini fooled him with most stuff like everyone else. Not all of it but most of it, cause he was sorry he did what he did when he got caught. Not one second before that was he sorry. He was sorry not only cause he got caught, he didn't want to lose his channel btw he hasn't posted anywhere since that apology video in December 28th. If anyone wants to watch the analyst go over mini's body language here is the link to the vid ruclips.net/video/mcYhYu1lt5w/видео.html I honestly think miniladd may have done before the ones that came forward cause he was to calm, to happy to do what he did. I wish well for his victims. The deserve the good things in life especially since all this.
While I agree with & understand the fact that Toast did know him on a different level then all of us there's a difference between the Criag all of the guys he use to play with knew & the Criag that came around when in my opinion he first moved out to L.A.
Honestly, i never really like that guy even when he play with Vanoss, he not even funny imo, then i realise on 2018, that he never really play with them anymore. So i ask wth happen to him? So i check and found out about Terroriser drama with him, but thats it. Until a few months back, where another drama occur again which revolt around him, like wtf dude, you just throw your friendship away now there this sht, which even creep the fk out of me more. Like seriously this guy got Karma really badly. Then his apology videos which 100% not even really great. Just seriously, stop. Honestly, im glad that he didnt play with vanoss and his friend anymore.
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The first of mini’s videos i saw was gmod sandbox show and tell, when i watched that video it had just come out. Mini was my introduction to vanoss and friends, so if he leaves, i’ll be losing a Big part of my childhood. To be honest i don’t care what mini did, i still enjoy his content
public relations team, they would manage basically all his interactions with fans via youtube, twitter etc, telling him what to post when and what not to do. you can gruantee for 100% that the 'cleaning the air' and apology videos, as well as all his tweets regarding this situation were thought up and scripted by his pr team
@Thy Nuts Consumed yes a title saying vanosscrew member talks about mini and the video being exactly that is really clickbaity. Good point sir you don't sound dumb at all.
I would say look it up yourself and do your own research so that way you can determine your own thoughts. People will tell you a bias version. Mini is a piece of shit, but you should be able to determine what you think on your own.
@Luke Sanchez if this was the case then why does he even need to make a video apologizing for what he did if it wasn't illegal? Seems he did something he wasnt supposed to and is now trying to be forgiven for it seeming he hasn't returned
Naw. Minilad doesn't deserve a second chance. He tried to date and minipulate young girls. I don't blame toast about his feelings, but will he be the same if Minilad does this to his kids? Mini done it once and got caught. Now he is going to be smarter now on not getting caught.
well he lost all sponsors, and i think his pr team is smart enough to disable monetization on his apology video, but he is most likely still making some money
Okay he didn't minipulate all of us first of all nobody is a fucking victim besides the girls too tell me what good is hate gonna do forgive him and move on we have done this and yet he's not in jail. Yes what he did was wrong I think he should go to jail but I'm not gonna just hate him because he made a mistake it's not like he's an asshole or someone who talks shit all the time he has donated to people he has done good things. Remember him for that and move on with your lives
To me, things spiraled down after he dropped himself from the Vanoss Crew and got egotistical.
yeah, his content barely held itself together, and he resorted to reddit reactions to save content, to the point where he bacame your bog standard reaction channel, nothing interesting
@@bigfrankfraser1391 Well, he did the things he got exposed for things he did well before that. BTW, I also hypothesized that it may have been the car crash, but that was in 2017 and the initial dms were from 2016.
@@bigfrankfraser1391 Yeah, he felt like a Pewdiepie clone, and not a good one too
@@rimurutempest4945 by far
I feel like if he didnt talk bad about terroriser and rhe others, and having the biggest ego ever, then less people wiuld have a reason to dislike him and find stuff about him
I feel like people just forget about that convo he had with someone on discord about how people would let this go and he'd end up fine later on. That convo is what's keeping me from buying into any of his bs.
worst thing is he might be right. sure hes gonna get sum hate and loose a few subscribers but thats it
Also on Snap, he cropped out a part that really gets to the point. He just doesn't want to show that. It shows he's lying to people once again, tricking them to believe.
7 months later, still losing subs
7 months later and he's lost around 700k subs, got a collective of 630k dislikes, lost a brand sponsorship, allegedly resorted to using bots, lost all of his friends, and is hated by much of the internet, and is basically known as the biggest RUclips predator
@@ghostwater9070 don’t forget the thirst project
I was Craig's biggest fan for years. At one point he was one of the only youtubers that I watched consistently. Now, I can't even bring myself to watch old videos if hes in it.
Same bro same.
that's your problem lmao
@@stompinshivavodss I mean, yeah.
You seem like you’ve got a bit of the scoop here, I haven’t been on RUclips for awhile and I have no idea what is happening here, could you please fill me in a bit here?
@@owenwood1938 okay long story short, This RUclipsr broke up with his girlfriend and he decided to cope by sexting his underage fans.
I think Mini took Ohm’s advice and left altogether. Could just be speculation, but if he’s told this by an old-friend, that basically confirms to Craig that nobody wants him here anymore
If I know anything, he’s basically hiding until the drama clears up so he can return. If he left for good, then there should’ve been an actual video explaining what he did was wrong, why he left and how he’s gonna fix it instead of ignoring it.
Trust me, I’ve seen this happen too much and it even happens on Twitter with three recent asshats getting called out for what they did.
@@demonicdonte7892 I disagree
Mini does not seem like the guy who wants to admit his actions, but knows he isn’t gonna bounce back in any way
So I believe he has cut his losses and left altogether
@@3Guys1Video I did say that it was a maybe he would i return because he knows what he did and if he doesn’t, everything else will be gone to a point where every social platform he’s on will be deleted permanently.
But he better left permanently
@@demonicdonte7892 same
@pplayersrock I don't think so
his behavior towards Brian during the whole thing along with his other encounters with RUclipsrs makes Ohm seem like an asshole
"Wacky merch" literally just a black shirt with his logo in the middle
Well not trying to defend mini but tjv merch just like that
@@arzaqqw lol
And that is just stupid like he should not drop MERCH if he is going to talk about CRAIG like that
When i heard Trevor say "mini ladd isn't uploading anymore" my mind thought "so mini ladd quits RUclips? Yay"
okay lol
He’ll be back I hope if he does and they don’t ban him they strip his subs
There's always bushes near parks
@@COOLPEAK as far as I I know of youtube doesn't strip people of their subs unless they actually ban the accounts
@@COOLPEAK there's no way. If he does come back he will defiantly be ran off yt quickly by the comment section and fan base of other youtubers...plus i dont think yt will allow it
Mini Ladd only apologized for 2/3 of what he done. Flirting and threatening suicide. But not what the flirting led to and the reason why he was making threats.
He never apologized for trying to get with one of them
What about him being an asshole to his old friends, and abusing his ex girlfriend?
@@mdsnoob6278 being*
@@kenofdarkmachines8415 what are you correcting?
Did you really think he would apologise for everything
An honest question here:
If Mini Ladd does indeed step down from the platform for a while, either a few months or years, what will/can he do for financial situations?
Now, I'm not say he deserves to go back to what he did on RUclips before all this, but tbh what can Craig do since he's previous work experience was doing RUclips for the past 6-8 years (or however many years since he did it). AND these allegations are not something tht can be hidden by possible employers.
This is a legitimate question of mine. Now, granted Mini could very well have enough finances saved up from his years of RUclips tht he can survive for enough time to pass to come back or go back to college to learn a new skill. But the point remains when the last actual job was nearly 8 years ago (besides doing RUclips for those past 8 years), there is very limited options unless he goes back to school to study a field. Even less due to what he did coming to light.
Again, I'm not saying he deserves forgiveness. Hell, I'm never watching his videos again due to all of this. I might occasionally look him up to see if anything has changed, but I won't do much other than tht. I watched him rarely ever since I realized he no longer played with the rest of the VanossGaming crew back in 2018 and as soon as I heard about this, I unsubbed from him.
So, from my point of view, he can still try to make RUclips his career, but I'm not gonna be a part of what helps him to grow back or support him. And I do believe tht his apology was sincere enough tht he's sorry for finally getting called out on it, but is legitimately trying to find a positive way forward.
Everyone has their own opinion on the matter. I said my own 2 cents on the matter.
Once you become a millionaire you just have to be smart with it. Realistically if you are not a fucking dumbass and will blow all your money away on cars and shit. You can survive for decades with that amount of money with investing and maybe buying property or something
I believe it would be better if society could give him a second chance, BUT, it must be earned. I feel that if society was not like "therapy doesn't matter, don't come back!" and replaced with the proper earning thing, then maybe more of those who needs proper help might at least try. Many more victims could probably get proper disclosed apologies too.
It's even possible Craig may have at least tried to apologize because of the whole "Want your career back? Then proper apologized!" thing. Even Keemstar maybe tried that (but then he turned into I guess the wrong direction). If he had no hope of his career on RUclips, he probably would not have done it.
SpaceOmega5000 not just apologize but go the law and get punished fairly. Than he might have a chance.
@@TigerzEye11 Maybe, though the way criminals are treated in the USA generally is debatable.
SpaceOmega5000 even after that he would have to be forgiven by the victims
I have a feeling that most of his subscribers aren’t watching, likes, and dislikes his videos even though when Miniladd has about 5,180,000 subscribers.
I didnt realize i was still subscribed until i read this comment. So thank you
I still watch his videos but only his old ones
This guy clickbaiting so hard saying VanossCrew member lol, gtfo here.
I bet you're a Mini Ladd fan bitch.
Toast is apart of the crew
Yeah but tbh I know mini did wrong and shouldn’t be forgiven unless he can do some good in the world however I do think that a lot of these you tubers who always post this shit not for the drama for MONEY for views it’s real easy to jump on drama and put a title with “vanoss crew member” sense their popular it’s better for views plus I personally think that the only ones who should be allowed to voice their opinions are the friends and only the friends
@@bradadam8720 your misspelling completely negates your point. Plus Toast even admits he doesn’t consider himself part of their group
@@MrxNiiggles just because he said he wasn’t in the group doesn’t mean he wasn’t in the older videos. People say he was in the group because he appeared in the older videos and he was funny or interesting enough that people recognize him for being in those videos
You know what that sounds like
It sounds like he was in the group at least when the group started
He hid evidence via cropping a photo, didn’t tell the whole truth in multiple ways, and he got exposed for it rather than him explaining himself. Anyone that forgives him, alright but ask yourself, “If the girls that were effected my own daughter, would I forgive a grown man s3xting them?”
It's probably out of shame, which is understandable. He's never gonna be forgiven, and he needs to stop trying to be.
But you also need to think about that the girls agreed and sexted back
So they should both be punished
@@RegenAgent Craig should 100% be punished worse than the girls. Even still, the girls were manipulated by that a-hole. Literally one couldn’t expose him bc he threatened “😭🔫”. If it were me, hell yea I wouldn’t say anything. Yeah I’d do whatever he wants me to do bc I’m in it w/ a somewhat-celeb. That’s my argument to that. Should the girls be punished? No. They were completely manipulated, and it takes a huge toll on mental health
@@t.b.03 they both are guilty she could of blocked him at any time but no she went with it
@@gaugekiefer2857 don’t you understand the word, “manipulation?” The girl was pressured to not saying MiniLadd is a p3d, all because he wanted to die. That’s after the stuff happened. Before? Put yourself in a similar situation. Let’s say someone you’ve been watching for years hits you up on Twitter DM’s. You’re suspicious, but insist. Come to find out it’s the real deal. They wanna talk more, and ask if you’re down. Who wouldn’t deny that? You could potentially be famous by association. Now take that situation and put it on these girls. One worked for mini (I think) and one didn’t. Let’s talk about the one that didn’t. She was a fan. A fan, that’s underage. Underage people can easily be manipulated bc they don’t have the true knowledge to perceive when something is off. Don’t believe me? Why do children get abducted so easily? Bc they’re impressionable. Anyway, should the girls be punished? I 100% say no now. Manipulation sucks, especially by a celebrity who used his power to get what he wanted. And as someone who has been manipulated, granted not on that scale, I relate to them. It’s f-ed up. Understand how messed up the situation is, and how is humans are, and then tell me they should be punished bc they were “in control” or whatever you believe. Bc they weren’t. That’s like saying a 9 yr old had full control over a grown man r-ping them. They don’t.
I am not a fan of Mini but i watched them all growing up as a Vanoss fan. To me personally I think craig needs to LITERALLY step down from RUclips. Take a few years and MAYBE MAYBE ease your way back after everything has "died down". I cant relate Mini to any other RUclipsr that has taken time since lots of them just made that decision on their own and it wasn't because of actions they made as a content creator to ruin them and make them step down. Seananners stepped down for a few good years and now this man is back, better than ever, has life figured out and is setting sail on RUclips again. Do i think taking time away will help the situation in Craigs perspective; no not really. As TJV says, "this is the internet and no matter how long ago it was that will FOREVER be on record or your mental". Take bashurverse for example. The man came to youtube, built a platform for himself and someone dug up his past for a mistake he made similar to Mini and it RUINED HIM. It was youtube news for MONTHS. That shit is PRIVATE but once you make that choice you already know you are guilty by assumption. Bashur ran from everything and disappeared from any social media. And now he goes by Toasty on Twitch and is trying to grow again. Do I think we need to judge someone forever for the actions they caused? No. Do i think it was right of Mini to do what he did? No. He knew it was wrong and still did it. But in due time; DUE TIME it may change. Mini needs to step down for a few years and MAYBE he can rethink his choice as a content creator
Toast need a hug man I watch his video before you sent this and he was really sad and I want to give him a hug, not only him but the other vanoss crew members well except Ohm and Lui.
We need to give them all hugs.
Who is Ohm?
@@DustyEchozy you never heard of Ohmwrecker?
@@bluesstudio5137 Nope. I only know Nogla and Terroriser. But seriously what the fuck did Ohmwrecker do? And did any youtuber talk about it?
@@DustyEchozy well yes Ohm was play with the Vanoss crew and when the miniladd drama came out he started to beef with Brian and say the Brian made up the drama and shit happened if you want to know more about him and what he did you should check out some drama channels that made a video about him.and TJV made a video about him too you should check him out.
Ohm was kinda shitty at the beginning of all this but at least Ohm isn't a peice of shit. (fron what i heard everything was fixed? idk its been a minute since i looked into it) i really hope it was at least
His body language is non existent in the apology video, I was a fan of Mini/Craig but after a friend of mine brought it to my attention I did some research came up factual and not only that I have had to tell my daughter she had to stop watching him and this broke her heart as she is/was a die-hard Mini Ladd fan but after I explained what he did she has gone away from him, for you parents out there with the situation about Mini is think about your children please
@Luke Sanchez yeah totally, let me brainwash my kid by telling them not to watch a PEDOPHILE....
I have 2 sisters that love watching his Meme Streams, I swear to God if Mini ever had contact with my sisters in the way he did with the two women he had sensual texts with, I would have pulled an Abby from the Last of Us Pt. 2 since Mini loved playing Golf with Friends.
Ha that’s good (I mean the joke)
he fact that the group made the humor, is what got him to become what he is now.
Every person in that group, is this funny because of the friends group.
only a very select few can create video's on their own that will still be fun to watch (imo, only Delirious)
nah all of them are able to make great content
@@natlan1843 ah right, that's how some of their channels died when they left the group..
@@natlan1843 nah Craig’s content even before this was shit
Insane that ppl are worried about his mental health and not the CHILDREN he took advantage of.....men need to hold other men accountable- the good ones do at least!
I feel pity for Miniladd, not sympathy. I pity his whole situation and pity myself for watching his videos.
Pity the fool
Yeah same used to love him I feel so betrayed
Same my man. I felt betrayed when he admitted to what he did.
Same feelings here bro
Mini Ladd can make all the half-ass’d apologies he wants, he isn’t gonna be back to his previous status
can you all not be so MEAN? Like it's past is past and you guys still hated him. And what if that the VanossCrew will be leaving one by one having serious problems do you guys think that all of you hate them?
@@PufferMintt264 dude stop. Just fucking stop. This man did horrible things to young children. He isnt sorry hes sad that he got caught and now hes career is toast. Hes a piece of shit that needs to be gone from a place where he can easily do it again.
Like how anyone can do one fucked up thing in the world, then apologize and actually try to do better, but the entire world just wants that person gone from existence... But no, we have nigga's out here taking lives from other people and all they do is get sent to jail, only to be released back into the world and do it all over again. I'm not saying that what Mini did was right in the slightest, but I honestly think that he's at least making an attempt to be better. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, it's just my opinion.
@@chickenboi795 look at my reply to the other Craig Thompson white knight, yeah I’m not calling him by his channel name anymore, it’s associated with good memories BEFORE all this
@@chickenboi795 so him not feeling sorry or not showing any signs of feeling sorry for the girls he manipulated means he's trying to better himself?
U call CAP
3:33 yeah one of the victims already said she doesn’t wanna talk about it anymore and move on
the victim wasted their time saying "move on" because now that Mini is in the "dramalert spotlight" as I call it the point of no return has been reached
Wait Minilad did something to someone? I thought he just said a pedophile joke
8:41 you're literally agreeing to banish him off the platform
Facts
Hey tjv is the carson thing still happening?
Find out yourself by looking at other videos
Hopefully not that situation is just depressing
@@Daniel-nn8mr Idk he did call Carson a p do in another video, even while other creators are excusing Carson.
@@birdgod5584 carson may be a groomer but he isn't a p*do
@@CrispyShroom yeah, I agree that he isnt one. But TJV seems to think he is. It was somewhere on the recent livestream about miniladd.
Damn toast really a good friend but you can see he's really is dissapointed on mini
I feel sorry for toast and the rest of the Vanoss group got caught in the cross fire of the situation. They founded themselves against drama and then 3 people tear it apart through drama.
It funny how he put the video title as vanoss crew but soclosetotoast wasn't in the crew at all he was in some videos but he never played with them at all
He was actually a member of the crew he just didn't play with them as much because he had more important things in real life to deal with
mini won't leave he'll be quiet for a few months and anyone curious will look him up and see the last vid being the apology video and think he's actually left to think about shit. Really he isn't as he mentions a PR team he'll so some shit for other youtubers like editing footage blah blah blah then come back and if people let him be he will back like nothing happened but if it doesnt then his PR team will drop him
Damn true
@@dooler0547 happened before I mean has nobody heard of jaystation faking his GF's death for views and she had no idea the only way she found out was through her parents thinking she was dead
@@puzzledotgamer5461 that's so messed up
Welcome back Trevor!
Hey, he hasn’t posted in a month!! So it looks like he’s gone bois!! Let’s gooooo!!
there is a fine difference between forgiveness and facing the consequences, i dont forgive mini, not yet, not until i see some actual change in him from him, which i realize might never happen or never see the light of day. the consequences for his actions is that his internet career is over, and his reputation as both mini ladd and craig is forever tarnished.
Forgiveness should never be out of question, but after fucking up so much so many times its gonna be hard to earn
The consequences *should* be that he goes to jail. He broke the law.
@@johnrossi6189 yes i do agree that he should be legally punished, im not very familiar with the law in these matters, but im not sure if what he did is enough to send him to prison
You should never forgiving him someone who threatens to kill him self if he didn’t get nudes form an under age girl that person does not need forgiveness
@@filip8985 it’s the law he needs to go to prison he covered it up and lied and ran to Ireland to escape the controversy
His apology sounds more sincere than any of the other apologies that I’ve heard
This is for everyone but please make sure to not hold grudges against people even for what they have done in the past. Even if you don’t like him, don’t spread hate around cuz we need to listen to God’s word and at least we can forgive. If you disagree it is fine but at least you read this and I hope you consider and try to forgive. I’m not getting on ur channel either because everything is opinion based and thank you for talking about the topic!
I can forgive and forget but not when things are unforgettable and unforgivable unfortunately I don't believe in God and I won't forgive for what he did but thank you for the positive message
@@forgeguy2126 Np btw. Even if you do not believe in God, I still will treat you as I would treat anyone else, and that is with happiness and acceptance! :) I hope you can accept me saying God bless you though, and if you can't then its fine :)!
@@joshuastewart3216 it's fine with me have a nice day/night
Just so you know mini Ladd is back but just as his vlogging channel Craig Thompson
Seems like whenever these youtubers become too big, too famous, or too popular that's when the harrowing secrets come out and you find out just how despicable, manipulative, and even psychotic they are underneath it all.
I've seen people like this before. They use their fame, influence, and even "mental health" as a shield to hide behind whenever they do these things. And victims of this never truly see it coming until it's too late, and then THEY suffer. Trust me when I say, if he doesn't suffer any kind of consequences for this, (and no I'm not just talking about his dumb channel getting cancelled) he will do it again. He will. And it will be worse.
Wait is Toast is a Official Vanoss Crew member? I never knew. Congrats Toast.
He isn't, he just knew Mini.
@@johnrossi6189 but the Title... 😭
Not on mini's side because what he did to the 2 girls was not a good thing, but the only thing I dislike about this video is the fact that he calls the girls minors and says he should not be on the platform because he can talk to little kids inappropriately. It came out many times that the 2 girls he talked to were 16-17 when he was 21. Yes that is weird to me as well but in the United States that is the age of concent and no longer holds the 2 girls as minors. Even at 16 they can be charged for adult charges in all states for crime. So for him to be banned from RUclips because you believe he will talk to younger children I feel like is wrong to say when you're painting a picture of him talking to 10 year Olds. Again this is not me standing up for Craig because what he did was wrong to those girls and they shouldn't have went through that. Its just my opinion on people trying to exile him from the platform.
I feel very bad for what Brian had to go through
3:35 Are you not bringing it up in this video though???
He's still going to bring it up every chance that he gets
Im not on mini ladds side or anything but may i ask why the victims actually kept talking to him and never said anything when they could
Well when you're in that situation, especially with someone you were a fan of that's famous or well known, it can put you in a difficult situation. Eventually the victims came out when at least one did, because it made them realize he did this with other people and that made it worse.
To piggy back off of what Cinder said, Mini also threatened to kill himself. He is a piece of shit.
@@satanicenlightenment ok thanks
I already replied to someone, but I felt like I should share this here too:
I believe it would be better if society could give him a second chance, BUT, it must be earned. I feel that if society was not like "therapy doesn't matter, don't come back!" and replaced with the proper earning thing, then maybe more of those who needs proper help might at least try. Many more victims could probably get proper disclosed apologies too.
It's even possible Craig may have at least tried to apologize because of the whole "Want your career back? Then proper apologized!" thing. Even Keemstar maybe tried that (but then he turned into I guess the wrong direction). If he had no hope of his career on RUclips, he probably would not have done it.
I know, I want him to come back because he make good jokes and looked like a good guy and also love his comedy, but looks is not the thing here, it's his personality. What I mean is he should be earning his keep of the apology. Because of this, he never got the second chance to REFORM, I never had a chance at reshaping my mindset and a Messed up childhood. But Miniladd needs help to get that second chance.
@@TheOnlyPonyAnonyous I personally feel that some of the reason why MiniLadd didn't fully try in the early places was probably due to fear of life being ruined, which is an effect I blame on some of society.
There really are sadly some people online that is against people wanting to start over properly, which at this point such attitude is partly complicit as to why some victims don't get their disclosure and why some don't bother getting the proper therapy they need.
But if MiniLadd does get proper therapy assuming he didn't, and proved that properly then I might get on his side...
@@SpaceOmega-zz6vs thanks for sharing with me and other people who see my comments, I hope the best of luck to Mini restarting life without RUclips career.
@@TheOnlyPonyAnonyous You're welcome. I do hope he will be able to still come on RUclips lawfully and be around with those that believes in second chances, but if he can't handle that, then hopefully he can enjoy life without it lawfully.
Guys once you be a good RUclipsr, please don’t don’t ruin your carrier hopefully everyone is haveing a great day 🤗
I thought mini was done being funny around 2018ish. I dont forgive mini for what hes done but I dont really know the situation. Ive read and listened to alot and I think craig just doesn't want to face harsh realities. I do want to put out thaf using words like R*": or child in this situation I think are inaccurate towards the crime. Harassment and Teenager feels like a better fit.
First no one every said R# (at least to my knowledge) and kid and teenager are kinda the same as Craig was a fully grown adult. Second i would say more manipulation than harassment,but it still applies
The higher you get, the bigger the fall
I just want old group again ; (
He needs to be in another platform..
The registered one
Nope, he needs to leave from the internet all together
I really do not care ^~^
I just watch you for “education purposes”
So is mini gone for good now or you think he will come back?
I still don't understand why you say it's part of the Vanoss Crew? I mean I've been watching been out since I was little I don't even know who this guy is. No disrespect to him and I hate that he also feels betrayed by mini Ladd, but I don't even know who this guy is ready to be considered part of the Vanoss Crew
He isn't a part of the crew, he just knew Mini
He is an og vanosscrew, around 7 years ago he is almost in every cod video
he actually was my favorite person on the vanoss crew for a while, then i got annoyed by him and didn't watch any videos with him in it, though this was before all this drama
i genuinely just don't understand why mini did the stuff he did. i looked up to him and now i dont know what to think.
Can y'all remind me to get potatoes tomorrow?
In response to 7:45 as much as I agree he should be off the platform would it even happen? I mean look at Logan Paul. He made a video where him and his friends are poking fun out of a dead body...and he's still here! So if they won't hold him accountable on any platform, what makes you think they'll take Mini off YT so easily? That's the problem with people like this. We should stop just talking about this shit and take this to the people who can actually do something about cancellation, and actually hold all of these people accountable, no matter what they did!
If anybody has any suggestions on how we can all do that, I'm all ears.
I dunno man, toast can say he cant decide what to do with it. I cut ties with my best friend after I found out they were scamming the elderly.
I am still sad about Miniladd/Craig but I am still Loyal to him. Because I have hope for him to Rehabilitate. But IF any of you disagree with me, it's a agree to Disagree...
You are the type of people i like i can see that truly want him to change,so even though i won't watch him again you aren't hated by me just cause you still watch him.
@@patsy1979 you proven a good point friend...
@@TheOnlyPonyAnonyous your not like most people who trash talk who are hating on mini so i respect you
@@patsy1979 I know...Respect goes to you as well ..
I hate minis damn gutts...it ruined my childhood.. I watched him for so long just to have this happen so I will never forgive him but if you want him to get better and just say it instead of shoving it down people's throats then that's okay with me.
i thought it was tradition that all youtuber apologies have to be terrible
This is a really good review and a good video. But Toast is not a "Vanoss Crew" Member necessarily.
He is you might say the only people in the crew are the famous ones like terroriser, wildcat, delirious, nogla and basically but there are others who don’t show up in every video but are still part of the crew like 4 zero and toast
however he can indeed never be forgiven or accepted
You know this isn't the first time he's done this stuff
I watched mini's vids for years and now he is below dirt
So... he's rock?
@@sachagrgoire6294 he is bedrock, the only thing below that is the void.
how people actually watch mini i will never understand
If he go back crew make good content, I will be shocked
if anyone at all colabs with him in the next few years the whole internet should be shocked
@@gamergeek_2470 yeah I get that, but vanossgaming losing a little of his views over the past months and views are not going faster and content slowly dying. I know Mini Ladd content going bad and it’s not the pedo situation (already know). It’s his stupid Reddit videos and meme stream videos. It’s gotten boring and not interesting content. He needs go back with crew or find some good people or let it die out in couple years.
@@gamergeek_2470 ps, or Mini Ladd can start with new channel and new brand because gaming is kind of boring these days
@@djanthonyrap8222 i can see what your saying,but i don't think anyone would to play with someone who has been hiding the fact that he was doing the things he was doing.
Why are you reacting to soclosetotoast, reacting to Minilad?
Um maybe to show someone mini knew personally how they feel about it? I'm no genius but that could be it
I watched and enjoyed mini but now i never wanna watch him again
Toast isn't a part of Vanoss' crew tf
He played with a lot of them back then like 2013 if I'm not mistaken
He was a part of it,but mostly for GTA
Everyone acts like the victims were little kids they were teens
they are still minors whose brains haven't developed fully, what are you trying to prove with this comment. Either way, it's fucked up, there is no excusing it.
They were underage, that’s illegal, moving on
I understand that while everyone knows Mini Ladd, Toast has a different perspective because he knew him as Craig but my thing is... so did the people he hurt...
They knew him personally, they were close to him and he still did what he did. Toast’s argument is weird because he’s saying “I know him as (this person) so I believe the words that’s coming out of this mouth” like congratu-fucking-lations you “know” a guy... but you didn’t know him enough to know what he was doing?
So you didn’t know him, you’re spewing this “forgiveness is key” bullshit but it’s stupid lol
Unfriend the guy, move on
Those people did know him personally yes,but toast knew mini for way more years. Toast has know mini for who knows how long compared to the girls and what he saying is he knew him on a deeper level. The girls saw Craig as the man they look up to on RUclips,toast saw him as Craig period.
@@patsy1979 You missed the point on what he was saying...
@@johnrossi6189 you don't know what i mean I'm saying he has know craig long enough to know if what he is saying and his tone is truthful I'm not saying that he knew about this because they haven't talked in a really long time so of course he is not going to know about this what i am saying and what he means is that he kind of believes that mini is truly sorry,because of his tone.
@@patsy1979 but i think the original comment is saying that its kinda pointless acting like you "knowing" someone helps you know whether they are lying or not because clearly they had no idea who mini actually was.
As much as all this is unacceptable behaviour this news is very upsetting as a longtime fan.. Nobody likes to find out the darker and more f’d up side of the people they looked up too and grew up watching.. it’s horrible.. I do not think people like him and other youtubers in similar or the same situation deserve any chance on this platform and its good these things are coming to the light, however its painful to watch and it feels like a bit of my past just died :/
Which one?
so close to 50k
Easy fix to this , just ignore him and let him do whatever and if anyone new subbed to him tell them what happened and they will leave, so just ignore and we good.
I am a victim I’m not a victim for a mini labb but I have been abused I don’t think I could ever forgive me laugh because I can never forget my abuser.
Uh your outro music is literally "When Christmas Comes to Town" from the Polar Express
Christmas was a month ago bro
It’s always Christmas when you watch his videos 😉
Who the fuck are you talking about when you say “vanoss crew member reacts to mini ladd video” who is the member??
I forgot this was a thing-
can I just add the fact an actual professional has checked him out and he certainly is not being bs but I do absolutely agree with however but no that very last video and the craig stuff was sincere and truthful in the end
Proof of an "actual professor"?
ruclips.net/video/mcYhYu1lt5w/видео.html
It’s ok he’s in therapy guys
hehe hopefully
Judging by his records.... He is not lying
Yeah I hope he gets the help he needs but he needs a break now
@@flighttrain1189 he needs to get off the site in general
@@Mr.Scott86 he should but he won’t unless youtube deletes his channel
I saw a video a Body Language Analyst watch miniladds final apology (the last one anyway) and honestly i think the guy got fooled. These RUclips's build a persona that they actually believe at times. So i think mini fooled him with most stuff like everyone else. Not all of it but most of it, cause he was sorry he did what he did when he got caught. Not one second before that was he sorry. He was sorry not only cause he got caught, he didn't want to lose his channel btw he hasn't posted anywhere since that apology video in December 28th. If anyone wants to watch the analyst go over mini's body language here is the link to the vid ruclips.net/video/mcYhYu1lt5w/видео.html I honestly think miniladd may have done before the ones that came forward cause he was to calm, to happy to do what he did. I wish well for his victims. The deserve the good things in life especially since all this.
Toast is a VanossCrew Member Now ?
He used to play with them frequently so he is considered part of the crew
There are some lines that are not to be crossed and mini lad did that multiple times.
While I agree with & understand the fact that Toast did know him on a different level then all of us there's a difference between the Criag all of the guys he use to play with knew & the Criag that came around when in my opinion he first moved out to L.A.
Honestly, i never really like that guy even when he play with Vanoss, he not even funny imo, then i realise on 2018, that he never really play with them anymore. So i ask wth happen to him? So i check and found out about Terroriser drama with him, but thats it. Until a few months back, where another drama occur again which revolt around him, like wtf dude, you just throw your friendship away now there this sht, which even creep the fk out of me more. Like seriously this guy got Karma really badly. Then his apology videos which 100% not even really great. Just seriously, stop. Honestly, im glad that he didnt play with vanoss and his friend anymore.
Facts, Mini was *never* funny to me and only brought the video down whenever he was with them.
Soclosetotoast I never heard that name in a long time
“Never heard that name in a long time” yeah good words
Annoyingly some people are saying that “MoSt PeOpLe DoN’t AcTuLlY hAtE mInI LaDd, ThEy AcTuLlY wAnTs HiM tO bE a BeTtEr PeRsOn!” “PrOpEr ThErApY iS tHe BeSt SoLuTiOn BeCaUsE fOrCiNg A sEx OfFeNdEr OfF tHe InTeRnEt MaKeS iT wOrSt In ThE hUmAn BoDy!” 🤦🏾🤦🏾🤦🏾
And that's how the text looks to normal people good job sir
The first of mini’s videos i saw was gmod sandbox show and tell, when i watched that video it had just come out. Mini was my introduction to vanoss and friends, so if he leaves, i’ll be losing a Big part of my childhood. To be honest i don’t care what mini did, i still enjoy his content
What’s a pr team?
public relations team, they would manage basically all his interactions with fans via youtube, twitter etc, telling him what to post when and what not to do. you can gruantee for 100% that the 'cleaning the air' and apology videos, as well as all his tweets regarding this situation were thought up and scripted by his pr team
People are still on this holy shit
Trevor, can you notice me 🥺
Bro please stop making video titles like this 😬
Why? It's exactly what it is
@Thy Nuts Consumed yes a title saying vanosscrew member talks about mini and the video being exactly that is really clickbaity. Good point sir you don't sound dumb at all.
I didn’t really watch the Vanos crew so I would like to know what he did.
He was flirting and requesting nasty pics from underaged firls (16 i believe) when he was 20 or 21 which is illegal.
I would say look it up yourself and do your own research so that way you can determine your own thoughts. People will tell you a bias version. Mini is a piece of shit, but you should be able to determine what you think on your own.
@Luke Sanchez No it was illegal from where he was from and John he was 23 i believe
@Luke Sanchez if this was the case then why does he even need to make a video apologizing for what he did if it wasn't illegal? Seems he did something he wasnt supposed to and is now trying to be forgiven for it seeming he hasn't returned
Okay whatever happened can someone explain what’s going on
Wheres the callmecarson video
No mercy 🍷
You know, i could've sworn halley asked people to stop making these videos, well even a parasite must feed i suppose
Naw. Minilad doesn't deserve a second chance. He tried to date and minipulate young girls. I don't blame toast about his feelings, but will he be the same if Minilad does this to his kids? Mini done it once and got caught. Now he is going to be smarter now on not getting caught.
Does mini ladd still make money off these videos because that's allot of views?
No he’s completely demonetized iirc
I think he makes significantly less than he used to
well he lost all sponsors, and i think his pr team is smart enough to disable monetization on his apology video, but he is most likely still making some money
What the fuck did mini do?
"real deal miniladds channel is goin 👎)
Okay he didn't minipulate all of us first of all nobody is a fucking victim besides the girls too tell me what good is hate gonna do forgive him and move on we have done this and yet he's not in jail. Yes what he did was wrong I think he should go to jail but I'm not gonna just hate him because he made a mistake it's not like he's an asshole or someone who talks shit all the time he has donated to people he has done good things. Remember him for that and move on with your lives
It took a part of my soul because Mini Ladd was actually a good youtuber in my opinion and now his fanbase has gone to shit.
Debate vaush (I saw the video but this one is more recent)
If u say he should get off RUclips one more time I get it he needs to leave u don't need to repeat it
I don’t understand this