HOW TO BEVEL PIPE WITHOUT A BEVELING MACHINE
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- Ever wondered how to bevel pipe without a beveling machine? Or how to bevel pipe with a grinder? This video is for you! I’m Austin ross, a pipeline welder and I like to make videos with helpful tips and tricks for pipeline welders, rig welders and future pipeliners about life, work, and the traveling lifestyle. Here’s how I bevel pipe and how to prep pipe ends. Generally with pipeline welding you would use a pipe beveling machine, but it’s handy to know how to bevel pipe with torch or grinder. Bevel pipe for welding is something that is done for every weld. Rather you are at home practicing and can’t afford a pipe bevel cutting machine or your in the field without one it’s good to know how to get the right pipe bevel angel without a pipe bevel machine. Watch this video if you are into pipe welding and aren’t sure how to bevel pipe without a machine.
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I'm a student at Tulsa welding school here in Houston Texas and I'm doing pipe right now. I'm learning to become a pipe fitter and I'm actually learning more just by watching all your videos. I can't wait to start working in the field.
Wow That's a nice school. I'm planning to visit Tulsa next year. Might check your school : ) Wish you all the best!
Right in brotha! I graduated in 02
I'm attending TSTC in Rosenberg/Houston. The pipefitters/ welders walking through a start to finish position/ set up is amazing. I'm due to graduate in April, but I'm doing small Diy welding around the garage and for school. :-)
I worked with an old timer I swear he could bevel a pipe consistently and it would be just like if you put a pipe beveler on it... Knock the slag off and could damn near start welding on it just a quick pass with a sanding disk to flatten out those kerf lines and bam... I hope I run into that fellah on another job soon, but who knows he may have hung it up by now... actually I doubt it he was the type of fellah he'd probably die the day he retired.
Lol I know the type.
I usually do freehand beveling with an angle grinder and a coarse sanding pad (K36 or K24). No grinding discs, no flap-discs. Keep steady torso position, put the bevel on in six grinding-turning sequences. One has to keep the angle (grinder face/land/nose) consistent. Which is not too hard. Keep a keen eye on shrinking the land back to mm. Sort of like the old timer guy does it I guess.
Awesome video, great info right there. A lot of these new welders want to just make sparks and don’t really know how to run a grinder and much less a torch. This is a good exercise to sharpen ones skills. 👌🏾
Austin buddy, you're one of my favorite to watch as far as pipeline stuff goes. And I think these how to type of videos are my favorite kind of videos you produce. Please keep these coming!
I’ll keep em mind
Thank you, Austin! That was very informative and helpful. Now, I know more about what I need to do to prep and practice.
You bet! 👌😎
Good stuff! I was wanting to buy a bevel machine, but now I know better to practice the fabrication aspect.
I have a positioner that is made from a piston rod of a pump jack. It's all grounded on my truck and makes doing roll-outs a lot easier. I use a small bit of angle to rest pipe, elbows, or flanges with flat straight slots and bolts. Really helpful tips and I agree with using the the middle of the abrasive disc to better contour the bevel. 🤘🤘🤘
Young man at work told me about your channel yesterday. Glad he did....watched a few videos and you’re cool dude. Keep on keeping on brother.
I’m glad he told you! Glad to have you here! Thanks for watching!
Super helpful video. I am planning to mess around in the shed with pipe soon and was wondering how to bevel it. Thank you. Mike
That was a helpful video for a up coming rig welder thanks man.
You bet 👌😎
I’m new to pipefitting for a mechanical company and your video was very informative and helpful. Mt foreman and journeymen are the opposite in their explanations and sometimes contradictory. Thank you for for what you do and be safe out there.
Leaning something every day. Thank you
This is the information I needed. Thank you!
Just bought a Lincoln 225 Stick welder! Gonna practice a lot and work on a couple of projects here at home but I’ve always wanted to work Pipeline! Super hard to get in if you don’t know anyone but I’m driving up to midland on Wednesday and gonna start knocking on some doors, hopefully one day I’ll see you out there Austin! Thanks for these vids they help a lot for people trying to get into welding 🙏
I really appreciate all your videos! Very helpful, thank you!
You're video's are awesome man, keep up the great work. I'm not a pipeliner but I find these videos very interesting and entertaining.
I sure will. 👌😎
I worked with an old fabricator welder who used a cutting torch and a hard wheel to clean it up there are still some awesome masters out there my advice all you young guys look,listen and learn these guys will usually teach you if your willing to learn
Hey thank for doing this video. Likes you said great advice and need to know for up and coming welders.
You’re more than welcome 👌😎
Dang, Austin-
You're the sharpest, cleanest welder I know!!
Dang!!!
Have you ever thought about adding blueprint reading video's?
I’ll take note of it. Thanks. 👌😎
Good video that young man. Interesting to see different types of hand beveling compared to each other.
Thanks.
Love your videos
Your good with that torch !!
Great Info, Great Video 😆😆 thanks
I learned to cut and fit without a grinder. All we had was a large, coarse, flat file. I learned a good cut saves a lot of work cleaning up for the weld. Becoming a lost art!
Thanks brother this helped me land a top pay pipefitter job
MR.ROSS sir where is your guard and handle now safety man would have a field day with this video 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 stay safe my brother
When I was learning to weld we had to learn to bevel with a torch before we were allowed to use a bevel machine
No cheesy editing, no herd mentality, just good, to-the-point welding instruction.
Thanks for sharing
I use a cutting disc and cut the bevel right away. Very fast and precise.
If my math serves my right, you would need to go back about 1/2" to get a 35 degree bevel on a .375 wall pipe and about 5/16" on .250 wall if you wanted a true 35 degrees to practice on. Hope that helps someone
Awesome thanks
.500w is 5/8" wide bevel to bevel with 3/32 gap/land @ 32-35° bevel.
The bevel angle is measured from the spacing tool to bevel edge.
I believe your math was correct, just you used the opposite angle.
Which wouldve created an unnaturally wide width for the cap.
We use 30 degree, and generally only a pipeliner will chalk a bevel line for a hand torch. I don't think I ever have in 20+ years.
Great video thank you for the information.
a good substitute if you don't have pipe wraparounds are some thick roles of sandpaper
they work really well if you are just trying to get that square, perfect mark on the pipe
hey Austin good vid, I used to use those flat type 27 discs to grind the bevel and many years ago switched to a type 28 cupped or saucer shaped disc on the bevel and switch back to the flat disc when grinding out root and other passes. the cupped shape forms a natural fit to the shape of the pipe and glides over it even faster than flap discs .seams less fatique as the day goes on.hope this is helpful
That’s a good idea. I’ve also seen guys bevel 2” with a 9” disk the same way you are takin about. Works almost perfect.
Another help skill is learning to to hand bevel without rolling the pipe. I did some hand beveling on some 2 to 4 inch pipe but was lucky enough that the pups where short so I was able to roll the pipe around. I did however challenge myself and try it without rolling the pipe around and that added some new challenges.
That’s a very good skill to learn. Thanks for sharing. 👌😎
Love it. Love it
Thanks bro
thanks for the vid 👍🏽
You bet
At Valmont we had to use a plasma arc torch to cut our bevel, then use a grinder, it saved a lot of time.
I always have an issue with slight gouging what I'm beveling. But you know what they say, practice makes perfect.
I'm not a pipeline welder, this is just interesting and impressive.
Austin is an excellent instructor. In the olden days, welders would not give up their secrets even if some one threatened to tie them to an acetylene bottle and start a fire under the bottle.
@@mikemullins3761 These days I suppose guys figure that anyone making use of the information is working hard enough to deserve it, too many people will simply be too lazy to worry about it.
@ Bill Cyrus These tutorials r geared towards upcoming pipeliners which is good. The lazy Fs can do whatever they want.
The "correct angle for beveling pipe" at least int the hvac pipe fitting world is 37-1/2 degrees. I'm. To sure if this corresponds to the pipelining world or not but that's what angle bevel all standard fittings have on them. Thanks for the great videos, keep them coming! And keep safe out there!
You bet! Thanks for watching!
All pipe bevels I have ever worked on over 30 years were 37-1/2 degrees.
Im a recent journeyman pipefitter man id love to see detailed beveling with a grinder i did bolt up for 5 years i need some pratical experience and i'd like to see fitting pipe and washing out socket welds and cutting out butt joints
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I use a Trumpf trutool tka 1500 handheld bevel/chamfer cutter. Perfect consistent bevels , no setup, no oxide or burrs, all in a single operation,
It's an expensive piece of equipment , but worth every penny .
Gotta say you cut pretty good with a hand torch I been in pipe for about five years and I would of ate it up lmao
Lol I took it nice and slow...
good 👍
Good video. I’ve gotten very far behind on your videos. Been working in an area with very bad service. I’ve missed getting to watch you and Kayla. Hope everything is going good with y’all.
Thanks! We can’t complain. Haven’t posted much on our channel anyway. Hope everything’s good with y’all also!
Austin Ross everything is good here. Been busier than a one legged man in a butt kicking contest! Didn’t want y’all to think I stopped watching you guys.
Preheat the pipe turn down oxygen to around 5.lbs give or take a little, thicker pipe requires a little more pressure too! PS I like your rig and that Lincoln 300 is awesome!
Thanks Austin that was very helpful
I prefer using a flap disc/tiger paw when beveling pipe.
Can you use your torch close to the Anglo then finish off your angle can you use your grinder to finish it off
Hi Austin, you have any tips on beveling smaller pipe ( 2 3/8") for farm fencing?
Hey Austin im a subscriber on two devices need info on where to get welders helper job
How the proper way to buff using a wire wheel inside the pipe like 16” sometimes knocks back on me trying be more careful
Just purchased a Lincoln SA 200 last week. Any advice for a Union Boilermaker trying to go into pipeline welding. I have structural welding from college and graduating the apprenticeship. Also I have pass code certification for heavy wall tube. Thanks plus I will be subscribing to your channel. Well explained and very helpful keep up the great work.
I never would have guessed the sanding pad would be faster. I’ll have to try that. And I notice you tend to torch leading further away. I tend to torch pulling it towards me so my hands get more stable as I move in. Is that just more comfortable for you?
Does your list of tools apply to pipe fitters and welders in the plants as well?
Thank you, I need to make a couple of 2 in schedule 80 pipe coupons for my 6g certifications. Would you recommend a smaller grinder like 4.5 in to bevel them? I was thinking too of rigging up a pipe spinner for efficiency.
The 4” grinder would work but a 7 or 9 would also. Especially if you had that spinner.
What wall thickness pipe do you need to practice pipe welding ?? For example black steel post is only 2 mm thick. Can anyone advise me before i buy some for practicing ? Thanks Mike
I would recommend setting the torch to washing buy turning oxygen up as high as possible right before it shuts off and hurts your ears. You will have a much better result/control and less clean up.
I wish i new the mathmatic formula for the bevel angle. Ive been praticing on how to scare pipe but a cheap carpenter square sucks lol
What model of grinder is it ik is a dewalt but i need to pick up a bigger grinder and if it can take a pipe line then shit.
How does the reference line change with different thickness of pipe?
I suggest the same thing and if you ever read that book read that book on welders offshore guide , the author of that book suggests that you go purchase your own pipe at a scrap yard bring it to a machine shop have them cut it up in a number of coupons at a 37 and a 1/2 degree bevel And purchase your own welding machine and practice at 6G welding test over and over and over again at home because that's what you're gonna be doing at a welding school and instead of spending thousands of dollars going to a welding school , let your own backyard be your welding school, buy your own welding machine , ac-dc welding machine from northern tool company and purchase your own pipe, have it beveled and start practicing in your own shop or your own backyard, it's a whole lot cheaper than going to school.
So how far do you measure back on .375 wall versus .500 and so on and so forth
Hi, why dont use plasma cutters instead of cutting torch? Thanks
hey austin you think we could get a video on how to setup fittings for big pipe? i currently do a ton of fabrication 2-8" but am wanting to get into the bigger stuff but dont want to be lost out there when they fly in a 24" flange that needs to be rolled to 3.4 degrees.... how do you set that up and prep it to weld?
I take note of it for sure 👌😎
I'm having a issue that I'm sure some of you have run into before: I can get a halfway decent bevel, but I end up chasing high/lows, running out of bevel, and have to start all over again. Any advice on what I'm doing wrong, or how long this ought to be taking me from start to finish?
Did you draw a line all the way around about 1/4” back from the end of the pipe?
Do yall still use acetylene or have you switched to propylene/propane?
I been watching all you videos since day one but I'm addicted to Welding I'm Still learn but I got disability for me it's little bit hard how to weld but do you have any good tips how to weld for disability people
That’s awesome! Keep up the good work. Not right off the top of my head but thank you for sharing. I’ll keep it on my mind. 👌😎
What kind of starch do you ask for at the cleaners? Not a welder . just a Texan needing some more crisp. Love the channel
I always ask for as heavy as they offer and creases. Some times it’s just called heavy starch and sometimes they have an extra heavy starch.
What do you prefer to wear for eye pro when you’re torch cutting in a shop setting like this video? Never saw your face but I usually just use my shield since I haven’t sprung for dark glasses yet. Is it worth it?
Most only use dark shield cause they have to because safety rule
I just use sunglasses.
Using a Cup rock works pretty good for me
Instead of fumbling around with a tape measure and soap you can use a new 1/4" grinding rock for your reference line or something that's a 1/4".
Keep these coming ol son
On to the next one Ol son 👌😎 you bet I will. Ol dale brisby..
@@arosswelding can you do like a demo on a sa 200 what gears and volts you use to weld on pipe?
Hey I’m currently going to trade school for welding and I’m thinking about going into pipeline is there anything I really need to know before hand that school might not teach
Damn near everything but hot to weld
Wat is the common size of the gap between pipes? And maybe show step by step on how to tack up the test pups
I’ll take note here.
1/8th gap is what I run normally
Can you make a video with a dye grinder please.
I’ll take note of it. 👌😎
Aaron what are guys doing for aux power to run grinders when they are running a SA200?
The names Austin.
Dewalt grinders are ac dc. Or they install a power inverter.
@@arosswelding sorry buddy I ment Austin it's been a long weekend. Thanks for the info
Not related to this video but I was wondering if you've had performance work done to your Cummins: deletes, tunes, etc. Just wanted to know if you would recommend it or for a welding rig
Yes my truck is deleted I like it because I do not have to put DEF in it
@@arosswelding Awesome, thanks for replying.
the problem with a brand new sanding pad is it's only new one.
kinda like you only have one chance to make a first impression
Whats the Grit of the Flap disk that you use for beveling the pipe?
I like 40 grit
How about some pipefitting videos
Always wondered what the “375 wall” is that you guys say is... all I know about is schedule 40, 80, and 160
Yep, just decimal form.
You need to get yourself a pipe chart my friend.
Or ASME B36.10 / B36.19 if you really want the truth! Lol
.375 wall = 3/8” wall thickness
Baxter Alves .375 is 3/8
If this ends up to be square and plum, this will be a game changer!!! I feel like you are required to have a bevel machine on any job worth taking.
Damn man, I’m halfway through and I feel comfortable enough at this point to say... this will turn out billable! Very impressive work with hand tools! It sucks, because you don’t get this until you try it.. anyone can hack an glue, but being square, plumb and burnt through is a test of hands!
What about pipe twice the wall thickness than that ?
For high rise pipe fitting this would be to time consuming. We usually just eye ball it and you eventually get really good at it
on the texas job did u meet tanya tucker a 798 welder late model chevy truck black she my neighbor
I don’t think so 🤔
Do you really use your starched shirts on the pipeline or do you change into an FR welding shirt? I'm only asking because the other day I bought a brand new shirt went to work the next day and messed it up with rust stains. We dont have helpers to do the grinding.
Yes I really use my starched shirts whenever I weld
Yeah you can’t get away from getting dirty lol. If you’re worried about stained clothes welding isn’t for you
What’s the more important for power for a grinder, rpm or amps I’m looking for the most powerful on market
probably amps since rpm doesn’t have much to do with power. It can spin really fast but it wont keep it up unless its got enough power feeding it.
Amps for sure
I start my bevel with the edge of the disc and then smooth it out with the inside. Way faster I can bevel a 12 inch in 10 minutes. But I've also been doing it for a long time. Start with the edge and finish is like you did with the flat part of the disc. And put a face shield on you need to teach saftey as well. I've been a welder for 17 years and I have seen a lot of dics blow up. It is not pretty.
That’s a good idea. 👌😎
It's seriously a huge boost in confidence and just generally pleasant fabricating without getting the random bits in the face. They also make a great impromptu flip-up umbrella to keep the rain off your safety glasses while wrapping stuff up or doing other jobs out in the elements.
What kind of jacket is that?
Do you ever cut your pipe and bevel at the same time?
A flap disc is way quicker and it gives a smooth finish that's what I use all then time on nipples that is cut in half
I agree
30 deg on one pipe 2x 30 is 60 deg total bev on a joint I like a 3/32 root face
👌😎
You can also use two nuts to check your bevel angle.
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What kind of shirts are you wearing? Sure ain’t them wranglers I always see everyone wear.
Do you have any story's about the grinder injuring someone
🤔 not that I’ve seen personally. Just a couple that I’ve heard of. They can be dangerous.
Yeah buddy always keep your shirt buttoned when running em. They’ll roll right up into your arm pit
Hello, are you healty after so many years of welding and grinding? Today we are 11.2023
Bro wtf😂i got my first job ever 4 months ago just recently from graduating HS this year and im shop welding for a roustabout company as well but i do metal fabrication so far ive been welding treater shacks