@bigkiwial I think it depends on where the halyard block is located. Typically they are above the forstay. If you use the genoa halyard it is below the forstay and you can gybe inside as with the smaller headsails.
@ theonecalledtom, Not at all, we are talking about jybing with the chute coming inside itself, but outside the forstay, i have never seen a boat with the chute halyard block below the forstay anyway, have you??
no it does not..maybe you're doing it wrong.. look for GiuliettaSailingTeam here on youtube, and search for a video called "jibing the asymmetrical" we have a sprit as well, and it never tangled the sprit
@@joestevenson5568 No, the jib is actually very helpful in that case, because part of the blow-through gybe technique is using it to guide the kite around the forestay by letting the kite backwind itself on the jib. You don't want the kite to go *through* the space between the mast and the forestay! I would remind you that skiffs and dinghies never take down their jibs and *never* "gybe on the outside".
Before the gybe, sheet the main all the way out. And don't pull it across during the gybe. It won't impact at all. The sail will luff before reaching the end of the sheet and the spreaders, if you are very alee before it swings. When the winds are high, you want spinnaker to fill on the new side before the main swings. This will be the end of broaching on the gybe.
Having take a one inch strip off and exactly parallel with the (old) luff, when that snagged on a spreader, I prefer the outside Gybe. Thanks for the tip. I must learn to tolerate testosterone more and rub shoulders with some racers to pick up more of these things.
you will never see a jib in this video, for many reasons...a few come to mind....one because this is a spinnaker, not a jib, two because the jib is down when you use the spinnaker.....and the guy is wearing blue, not black :)
Opps, I meant jibe. Black/blue he was still in the way of the instruction. Other then that great tutorial. Sorry if I can across snarky. Keep up the good work.
No it is not. A genaker is a genoa sail made with spinnaker cloth, hence the name genaker. An assymetrical spinnaker can be set with no pole or with pole. What makes it an assym spinnaker is the shape, size, cloth type and final use, not necessarily if it is set on a pole or directly on the bow.
But what is the main difference between gennaker and spinnaker: The spinnaker has a symmetrical design. The spinnaker halyard at the head of the sail, the afterhaul upwind on the spinnaker pole, and the sheet downwind on the clew. A gennaker is cut asymmetrically.
@@gersonae please don't argue with me on what is or is not. I designed and made the sail! Also, wikipedia is not in fact, the best source of information is it? But since you so eagerly linked to Wikipedia, here is one that came from the wikipedia and says the contrary. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetrical_spinnaker
I love those instruction videos by someone who starts by confusing a guy and a sheet. The line controlling the clew of a spinnaker is called a sheet, not a guy. (just like the line controlling the clew of a genoa, a jib, or a mainsail). The guy controls the tack of a symmetrical spinnaker (through the spinnaker pole- the foreguy controls the height of the pole, the afterguy controls how far the pole comes out, and becomes the sheet when gybing). The line controlling the tack of a asymmetrical spinnaker is called, you may have guessed it, the tack line. For those asking why would you do an outside gybe (or jibe if you are American and too dumb to spell properly), it decreases the possibilities of the sail getting tangled in the forestay when the breeze is light. You would do that in lighter breeze, and do a inside gybe when there is more wind (which helps the sail going across .
I like this guy's accent and calm voice and friendly manner. Cheers...
I have watched most of your videos and have enjoyed them. Keep up the good work and thank you.
@bigkiwial I think it depends on where the halyard block is located. Typically they are above the forstay. If you use the genoa halyard it is below the forstay and you can gybe inside as with the smaller headsails.
great!!
@ theonecalledtom, Not at all, we are talking about jybing with the chute coming inside itself, but outside the forstay, i have never seen a boat with the chute halyard block below the forstay anyway, have you??
no it does not..maybe you're doing it wrong..
look for GiuliettaSailingTeam here on youtube, and search for a video called "jibing the asymmetrical" we have a sprit as well, and it never tangled the sprit
In what circumstances would you do this style of gybe rather than the "skiff-style"/"blow-through" gybe?
If you have a jib/staysail thats going to cause problems with the spinnaker blowing through
@@joestevenson5568 No, the jib is actually very helpful in that case, because part of the blow-through gybe technique is using it to guide the kite around the forestay by letting the kite backwind itself on the jib. You don't want the kite to go *through* the space between the mast and the forestay! I would remind you that skiffs and dinghies never take down their jibs and *never* "gybe on the outside".
Yes, you can use the spinnaker without a pole but that one is not an asymethrical one but a gennaker
The difference between an asymetric spinnaker and a gennaker is just marketing. It doesn’t need a pole to be a spinnaker.
Before the gybe, sheet the main all the way out. And don't pull it across during the gybe. It won't impact at all. The sail will luff before reaching the end of the sheet and the spreaders, if you are very alee before it swings.
When the winds are high, you want spinnaker to fill on the new side before the main swings. This will be the end of broaching on the gybe.
Having take a one inch strip off and exactly parallel with the (old) luff, when that snagged on a spreader, I prefer the outside Gybe.
Thanks for the tip.
I must learn to tolerate testosterone more and rub shoulders with some racers to pick up more of these things.
In higher winds, it flaps like crazy, and if you have a cutter, the lines tangle round the bowsprit.
if the guy in black wasn't in the way, we could actually see the jib!
you will never see a jib in this video, for many reasons...a few come to mind....one because this is a spinnaker, not a jib, two because the jib is down when you use the spinnaker.....and the guy is wearing blue, not black :)
Opps, I meant jibe. Black/blue he was still in the way of the instruction. Other then that great tutorial. Sorry if I can across snarky. Keep up the good work.
lol Not trying to be critical. I meant I couldn't see the JIBE. I spelled it wrong. lol Sincerely, I do appreciate the post and the videos. thx
IITS A GENHAKKER_NO POLE
No it is not. A genaker is a genoa sail made with spinnaker cloth, hence the name genaker. An assymetrical spinnaker can be set with no pole or with pole. What makes it an assym spinnaker is the shape, size, cloth type and final use, not necessarily if it is set on a pole or directly on the bow.
and it was attached to the bow and not as with two sheets
But what is the main difference between gennaker and spinnaker: The spinnaker has a symmetrical design. The spinnaker halyard at the head of the sail, the afterhaul upwind on the spinnaker pole, and the sheet downwind on the clew. A gennaker is cut asymmetrically.
@@gersonae please don't argue with me on what is or is not. I designed and made the sail! Also, wikipedia is not in fact, the best source of information is it? But since you so eagerly linked to Wikipedia, here is one that came from the wikipedia and says the contrary. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetrical_spinnaker
@@gersonae did you even read what the title of the video says?? ASSYMMETRICAL SPINNAKER. It does not say Symmetrical.
Sooooooo, explain why all well sailed fast skiffs, or sports boats jybe on the inside??
I love those instruction videos by someone who starts by confusing a guy and a sheet. The line controlling the clew of a spinnaker is called a sheet, not a guy. (just like the line controlling the clew of a genoa, a jib, or a mainsail). The guy controls the tack of a symmetrical spinnaker (through the spinnaker pole- the foreguy controls the height of the pole, the afterguy controls how far the pole comes out, and becomes the sheet when gybing). The line controlling the tack of a asymmetrical spinnaker is called, you may have guessed it, the tack line. For those asking why would you do an outside gybe (or jibe if you are American and too dumb to spell properly), it decreases the possibilities of the sail getting tangled in the forestay when the breeze is light. You would do that in lighter breeze, and do a inside gybe when there is more wind (which helps the sail going across .