I don't agree with the "most talented" thing... Every member is talented!!! Ones are better in dancing other in creating music... That's why they are boy band - put these talents all together it become one of most succesful boyband in the world.
And personally I love Mark's solo stuff more than Gary's or even Robie's. Just because he wasn't succesful doesn't means he is not talented. Maybe it's just not for the masses you know. I mean, he sings what he wants and not thinking how to sell a record. Even now Mark's "Art of Doing Nothing" is not an album full of pop sound. That's just explains that he sings what he wants to. If he would thinking about how to earn as much mone as he could it would absolutely possible for him.
The more I watch this documentary, the more I start feeling sorry for the guys cause of what they've been through. So glad it worked out for all of them 'cuz the music business sure as hell can drive you over the edge...
No Gary...I'm glad you've turned out to b the man that u r. I'm glad u did not pretend to b someone else. I love your music, admire your talent...& I absolutely love the family man you've turned out to b 'cause the world certainly need more men like u!
@Caoiluvsmarkowen Because the most talented members were Gary and Robbie.Gary with his first album(Number one in England),sold more than one million of copies.He was the author of all the most successfull songs of Take That!!
its so annoying that robbie calls gary a wanker it was ten years ago that they even saw eachother when this was made, everybody else had put it behind him and for some reason robbie just couldnt let go
I do not like the coments about who is better, as you can see they both need each others for many reasons.. I think Gaz bring to Robs life the same as Robs to Gaz life. They are together a great team, and I am glad they make it up.... TT is back and I do not care for how long as far asthey will be produce the amazing music as is Progress cd.. and all are happy in the band:-)))
Man ...I love Robbie for being the person he is. He was forced to leave the band...and obviously you can see he was really upset they mistreated him.....now you want to blame Robbie for being successful?
Excuses, excuses... Rob might have overcome his demons sooner if he'd learned to accept responsibility for his actions instead of listening to those who made excuses for him, thereby perpetuating his feelings of bitterness & paranoia. (He could have done with someone like Dawn, who seems to be a "get over it" kind of gal! Bless her!) But, Rob's public apology was a huge step towards the healing process for all of them... so good for him! Hurrah!!
*continued* robbie may have finally matured enough to apologise and be able to be friends with them all again, but i'll never have even a fraction of the respect for him that i have for gary! he said how difficult it would be for him to be in a room with gary for GARY'S faults? what about how HE would feel? (i swear if that man was leader of the UN he'd bring about world peace!!!) bottom line; robbie's faults (which we all have) are within him, within his personality - not his rehab club card
@slainte321 or it could be that their native language is not english - which judging from some of their other comments, it doesn't seem to be. could be wrong though
Hmmm, I wouldn't put it quite that forcefully, but personally I think that they are better without Robbie and his colossal ego. They are even better now than the first time, hurrah!
i dont want robbie to ever go back to take that, not properly anyway i think a tour with them would be great but i think it would kind of ruin take that if he rejoined properly in my eyes, anyway. i know alot of people would love for him to do it
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I also feel gary gave up on his solo carreer to quick both could have made a carreer. Also when rob called gary a wanker he was pissing around which to me is why he has better music as its about stuff rather than Garys songs which are great songs but have little emotion in his life
While Gary might have been envious of Rob's success at least he didn't retaliate to Rob's constant barrage of abuse. And you can't blame Rob's addiction for his behaviour because, as he says in this doc, he thought Gaz was a twat from the moment they met... because he had the wrong trainers or hairstyle!! So Rob was always pretty shallow! If it wasn't for Gary & NMS he would probably now be touring in musicals with his mate Jonathan Wilkes, instead of being where he is today!!
Who had heard of chambers or has apart from in robbie songs exactly and is intensive care a flop and RKTV only 1 flop a rap album in robbies carreer Robbie is currently happy and has a condition which steven Fry also has which makes you either extremely high or extremely depressed
Unlike Gary, Robbie wanted to explore different grounds of music. Gary's music started to sound boring. Credit must be given to Robbie for surrounding himself with good songwriters. All in all, Robbie is a great performer, entertainer all around. Not to take anything from Gary who wrote most of Take That's hits
@julyrw Yeah but it's not fair to look at it that way. First of all, Robbie wouldn't had this carier with out take that. And, apart from Nigel, Gary made take that what it was in the 90s. It was his songs, it was his no1. 99% of take that songs he wrote, and every single no1 hit (except 2 covers i think). It was all Gary. And he didn't wrote it with some one (like Robbie who wrote every song with Chambers, another words, Robbie would made shit with out him.) Gary wrote everything by himself.
gary's talent has come through in the end.he's written so many songs better than angels.dont hate robbie but hope he doesnt re join take that.think he's been a bit of a prick.
I don't agree with the "most talented" thing... Every member is talented!!! Ones are better in dancing other in creating music... That's why they are boy band - put these talents all together it become one of most succesful boyband in the world.
Gary and Robbie both are talented so as the rest of the band Howard Jason and Mark, blessed them all Xx
nobody ever talks about mark's solo career!? why? love TT!!! thanks for uploading!! xxx
And personally I love Mark's solo stuff more than Gary's or even Robie's. Just because he wasn't succesful doesn't means he is not talented. Maybe it's just not for the masses you know. I mean, he sings what he wants and not thinking how to sell a record. Even now Mark's "Art of Doing Nothing" is not an album full of pop sound. That's just explains that he sings what he wants to. If he would thinking about how to earn as much mone as he could it would absolutely possible for him.
The more I watch this documentary, the more I start feeling sorry for the guys cause of what they've been through.
So glad it worked out for all of them 'cuz the music business sure as hell can drive you over the edge...
No Gary...I'm glad you've turned out to b the man that u r. I'm glad u did not pretend to b someone else. I love your music, admire your talent...& I absolutely love the family man you've turned out to b 'cause the world certainly need more men like u!
i remeber 'love wont wait' i absolutely loved it!!
@Caoiluvsmarkowen Because the most talented members were Gary and Robbie.Gary with his first album(Number one in England),sold more than one million of copies.He was the author of all the most successfull songs of Take That!!
its so annoying that robbie calls gary a wanker
it was ten years ago that they even saw eachother when this was made,
everybody else had put it behind him and for some reason robbie just couldnt let go
I do not like the coments about who is better, as you can see they both need each others for many reasons.. I think Gaz bring to Robs life the same as Robs to Gaz life. They are together a great team, and I am glad they make it up.... TT is back and I do not care for how long as far asthey will be produce the amazing music as is Progress cd.. and all are happy in the band:-)))
like nigel said: "just one person could win..." and then: I SIT AND WAIT.. DOES AN ANGEL CONTEMPLATE MY FATE?..
rob u r the best.
Man ...I love Robbie for being the person he is. He was forced to leave the band...and obviously you can see he was really upset they mistreated him.....now you want to blame Robbie for being successful?
Excuses, excuses...
Rob might have overcome his demons sooner if he'd learned to accept responsibility for his actions instead of listening to those who made excuses for him, thereby perpetuating his feelings of bitterness & paranoia.
(He could have done with someone like Dawn, who seems to be a "get over it" kind of gal! Bless her!)
But, Rob's public apology was a huge step towards the healing process for all of them... so good for him! Hurrah!!
*continued* robbie may have finally matured enough to apologise and be able to be friends with them all again, but i'll never have even a fraction of the respect for him that i have for gary! he said how difficult it would be for him to be in a room with gary for GARY'S faults? what about how HE would feel? (i swear if that man was leader of the UN he'd bring about world peace!!!)
bottom line; robbie's faults (which we all have) are within him, within his personality - not his rehab club card
@slainte321 or it could be that their native language is not english - which judging from some of their other comments, it doesn't seem to be. could be wrong though
i love gary and i love robbie
@Ahil982 its not a competition beetween them rob just wanted some musical input in the band which gary wouldnt allow at the time
Hmmm, I wouldn't put it quite that forcefully, but personally I think that they are better without Robbie and his colossal ego.
They are even better now than the first time, hurrah!
i dont want robbie to ever go back to take that, not properly anyway
i think a tour with them would be great but i think it would kind of ruin take that if he rejoined properly
in my eyes, anyway.
i know alot of people would love for him to do it
only one person can win really...
I SIT AND WAIT.. DOES AN ANGEL CONTEMPLATE MY FATE? ♪
hahahaha amaaaaaaazing ♥
FOREVER LOVE: UK N.1
ANGELS: WORLDWIDE HIT.
I also feel gary gave up on his solo carreer to quick both could have made a carreer. Also when rob called gary a wanker he was pissing around which to me is why he has better music as its about stuff rather than Garys songs which are great songs but have little emotion in his life
OH c'mon "Open Road" was a better than previous songs... Why it was only 7th? This song has a great tune and great lyrics... my fav from him...
While Gary might have been envious of Rob's success at least he didn't retaliate to Rob's constant barrage of abuse.
And you can't blame Rob's addiction for his behaviour because, as he says in this doc, he thought Gaz was a twat from the moment they met... because he had the wrong trainers or hairstyle!! So Rob was always pretty shallow!
If it wasn't for Gary & NMS he would probably now be touring in musicals with his mate Jonathan Wilkes, instead of being where he is today!!
JUST LOOK WHAT ROB HAD DONE BY HIMSELF AND WHAT GARY HAVE DONE..
pleease...
Who had heard of chambers or has apart from in robbie songs exactly and is intensive care a flop and RKTV only 1 flop a rap album in robbies carreer
Robbie is currently happy and has a condition which steven Fry also has which makes you either extremely high or extremely depressed
we'll see ;)
Unlike Gary, Robbie wanted to explore different grounds of music. Gary's music started to sound boring. Credit must be given to Robbie for surrounding himself with good songwriters. All in all, Robbie is a great performer, entertainer all around. Not to take anything from Gary who wrote most of Take That's hits
@julyrw
Yeah but it's not fair to look at it that way.
First of all, Robbie wouldn't had this carier with out take that. And, apart from Nigel, Gary made take that what it was in the 90s. It was his songs, it was his no1. 99% of take that songs he wrote, and every single no1 hit (except 2 covers i think). It was all Gary. And he didn't wrote it with some one (like Robbie who wrote every song with Chambers, another words, Robbie would made shit with out him.) Gary wrote everything by himself.
gary's talent has come through in the end.he's written so many songs better than angels.dont hate robbie but hope he doesnt re join take that.think he's been a bit of a prick.
i feel for them all, the poor things. Especialy howard, SUICIDE!?
garys won in the end. because hes happy isnt he :) takeee that (L)
robbie hasn't half of the talent of Gary in writing songs, in singing.
Robbie hasn’t half of the talent of Gary in writing songs, in singing.