DEMO SETS BEING MADE THIS WEEKEND. Personal DPS + SUPPORT. HOW TIER WORKS: The 232 pieces are bought with badges. You can use the trophies + badges to buy 245s which drop off every heroic boss. You can buy the 258s with the Regalia's from the Tribute chest at the end of the raid. There is a set up using the 1h sword from Tribute chest + hit boots that sims a bit better. I am still going to probably go for this set. It all depends on what drops in what quantities like always. knowing my luck I will be using starshard until ICC. :)
i have another set for affl bis that sims about 80 dps higher and the only changes is you use nebula band and conductive seal, the spellpower sword instead of dagger, and the hit boots
Would love to see it. Went with the dagger since if people get bad weapon rng in TOGC hopefully they get the hit from starshard/cosmos and its an easy transition.
Question regarding your gemming, i dont understand why you put a purified in weapon and bracers but not in the ring? They all have the same socketbonus of +5SP. I can see why 5 SP isnt worth putting a purified into and opt for the pure SP from a red gem, but then dont do it for all those 3 sockets. For the meta you are covered with head and chest having a blue(purple) gem in it. Thoughts?
That is a good catch. For the ally human set its better to have purified in the +5 SP bonuses, for the horde it would be better in the weapon/bracer/ring to go for the +23 SP. I probably mixed them up making the 2 affli and 4 demo sets. The difference is minor, but it matters. Thanks for pointing this out.
When do we break up this tier in ICC? Would we break up Heroic 4p for well itemized off pieces or would we need 2p or even 4p in ICC to break this up? Thanks dude
In ICC (this is super early take with a grain of salt). I would vouch for trading 4 piece for 4 piece. Losing that 10% corruption damage for 15% is the best trade off I can think of.
Can you share your thoughts on stat itemization. You mentioned it briefly but do you like spirit over Crit and in what ratio. For this tier I have been favoring haste/spirit over Crit but at about 700 haste is when the aff rotation starts to feel smooth so I'm starting to think more Crit isn't a bad thing as I get closer to full bis in this phase and beyond.
In ICC gear at ~1400 haste crit starts to take over as the superior secondary stat on pservers. Going into TOGC the crit cloak is simming better in mostly full bis. I dont know the exact number, feelscraft would tell me ~800.
i still think Sartha Trinket Caster is still the best option if you dont have the flare, flare is about 248sp/minute, eyes of the bloodmother is ok but idk about losing 70sp for 96 crit
The 232 pieces are bought with badges. You can use the trophies + badges to buy the 245s which drop off every heroic boss. You can buy 258s with the Regalia's from the Tribute chest at the end of the raid.
I recently switched from Demo to Affli and dont have Scale of Fates yet, playing with Embrace of the Spider right now. Would you consider the Badge of Triumph Trinket an Upgrade to Embrace or what should i aim for, if my bad luck in ulduar continues?
No mention of Abyssal Rune in the trinkets section? We'll see how it does in classic but apparently it did very well on pservers (you would drop scale for rune, and keep flare) so you should at least look into it
I think its good as a catch up trinket if you haven't received either of the trinkets from Ulduar. That, Illustration, Eye, Dying Curse, provides a few options. Abyssal Rune is definitely sleeper and should have made a little tidbit about it.
Can you make say a 10 man bis list? I'm part of a mom and pop guild and the likelihood that I see heroic any time soon is slim, or i'll have to hook up with another guild in their runs. I'm also one a low pop alliance server. I want to pump, but all "BIS" list talk about the very tippy top gear, that I will probably never see. I could use list that uses vendor and 10 man gear, maybe some crafted gear if there is any in this tier.
I made this this morning and its not entirely accurate I don't really have a lot of time to sim a lot of stuff. wowsims.github.io/wotlk/warlock/#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 There are a LOT of 10m options. If you can get uld 25 gear there opens some doors as well. Let me know if you have any questions. I assume you can adjust the hit with some extra options, but this is a start.
DEMO SETS BEING MADE THIS WEEKEND. Personal DPS + SUPPORT.
HOW TIER WORKS:
The 232 pieces are bought with badges. You can use the trophies + badges to buy 245s which drop off every heroic boss. You can buy the 258s with the Regalia's from the Tribute chest at the end of the raid.
There is a set up using the 1h sword from Tribute chest + hit boots that sims a bit better. I am still going to probably go for this set. It all depends on what drops in what quantities like always. knowing my luck I will be using starshard until ICC. :)
You're the best. Not a lot of content for Dps Demo out there, appreciate it !
Keep up the good work ! Love from France
You dont actually turn 232 tier into 245 tier. You buy the 245 tier with badges + a trophy.
@@Moonvenger Thanks for the catch there. Edited the comment.
I love your videos Plummel! can't wait for the Demology one! Kepp the great work for us warlocks ♥
Thank you for putting this together!
As always, thank you for your insight!😃
Huge. Can't wait for the Demo vids :D
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Great informative video. Thanks!
Thanks Pummel.
Pummel makes me better :X
Destro competes as well :) I hope someone does a deep dive on destro gearing soon as I do not have the time any more
i have another set for affl bis that sims about 80 dps higher and the only changes is you use nebula band and conductive seal, the spellpower sword instead of dagger, and the hit boots
Would love to see it. Went with the dagger since if people get bad weapon rng in TOGC hopefully they get the hit from starshard/cosmos and its an easy transition.
Thanks bro
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Hey two set is good for Destro
Question regarding your gemming, i dont understand why you put a purified in weapon and bracers but not in the ring? They all have the same socketbonus of +5SP. I can see why 5 SP isnt worth putting a purified into and opt for the pure SP from a red gem, but then dont do it for all those 3 sockets. For the meta you are covered with head and chest having a blue(purple) gem in it. Thoughts?
That is a good catch. For the ally human set its better to have purified in the +5 SP bonuses, for the horde it would be better in the weapon/bracer/ring to go for the +23 SP. I probably mixed them up making the 2 affli and 4 demo sets. The difference is minor, but it matters. Thanks for pointing this out.
@@ItsPummel thanks for the reply. Appreciate the bislist and vid.
Now do one for us Demo Mains cause Crixx left us
Crix is back. He will be making sets soon too. I will be making demo personal dps + support list this weekend.
@@ItsPummel Where has he been? just curious.
@@FE-tb6gv he is live right now if you want to do !back in his chat. Not my story to tell...
@@ItsPummel tyvm pummel :)
@@FE-tb6gv doing time
When do we break up this tier in ICC? Would we break up Heroic 4p for well itemized off pieces or would we need 2p or even 4p in ICC to break this up? Thanks dude
In ICC (this is super early take with a grain of salt). I would vouch for trading 4 piece for 4 piece. Losing that 10% corruption damage for 15% is the best trade off I can think of.
Which 258 Tier would you say to get first because it's so hard to get the Regalia?
Probably tier legs since they have the most haste, then helm, then shoulders/gloves last.
Can you share your thoughts on stat itemization. You mentioned it briefly but do you like spirit over Crit and in what ratio. For this tier I have been favoring haste/spirit over Crit but at about 700 haste is when the aff rotation starts to feel smooth so I'm starting to think more Crit isn't a bad thing as I get closer to full bis in this phase and beyond.
In ICC gear at ~1400 haste crit starts to take over as the superior secondary stat on pservers. Going into TOGC the crit cloak is simming better in mostly full bis. I dont know the exact number, feelscraft would tell me ~800.
I always aim for about 20% so that with bloodlust im at 50% which is the cap for global cooldown
Thank you + flagging for gearset copyright
flagged for asking, thank you
i still think Sartha Trinket Caster is still the best option if you dont have the flare, flare is about 248sp/minute, eyes of the bloodmother is ok but idk about losing 70sp for 96 crit
That's a good take, Illu is a tried and true trinket
you can buy all 4 tier pieces with badges next phase??
The 232 pieces are bought with badges. You can use the trophies + badges to buy the 245s which drop off every heroic boss. You can buy 258s with the Regalia's from the Tribute chest at the end of the raid.
@@ItsPummel would you even want to replace T8 232 with T9 232 or wait till you get enough trophies to replace all at once with T9 245?
@@TOXINZ2 I would replace the t8 232 if it means you can get the 4 piece.
Do precious tier stack? 2 piece from uld is 10% damage also
Yes the tier stacks, but the good tier bonus from TOGC is 4 piece. Not very practical to stack.
I recently switched from Demo to Affli and dont have Scale of Fates yet, playing with Embrace of the Spider right now. Would you consider the Badge of Triumph Trinket an Upgrade to Embrace or what should i aim for, if my bad luck in ulduar continues?
Eye of the Broodmother is a really good alternative and can be found in gundrak.
No mention of Abyssal Rune in the trinkets section? We'll see how it does in classic but apparently it did very well on pservers (you would drop scale for rune, and keep flare) so you should at least look into it
I think its good as a catch up trinket if you haven't received either of the trinkets from Ulduar. That, Illustration, Eye, Dying Curse, provides a few options. Abyssal Rune is definitely sleeper and should have made a little tidbit about it.
Can you make say a 10 man bis list? I'm part of a mom and pop guild and the likelihood that I see heroic any time soon is slim, or i'll have to hook up with another guild in their runs. I'm also one a low pop alliance server. I want to pump, but all "BIS" list talk about the very tippy top gear, that I will probably never see. I could use list that uses vendor and 10 man gear, maybe some crafted gear if there is any in this tier.
I made this this morning and its not entirely accurate I don't really have a lot of time to sim a lot of stuff.
wowsims.github.io/wotlk/warlock/#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
There are a LOT of 10m options. If you can get uld 25 gear there opens some doors as well. Let me know if you have any questions. I assume you can adjust the hit with some extra options, but this is a start.
What about flare/abyssal rune for trinkets
I don't like them cause of all the hit...
are they bumping TOC item levels?
Not at the moment, no.
how about destro?
the real question is when is phase 3 dropping
In roughly a month. Each phase lasts around 4 months and it's been over 3 months since Ulduar released.
you look like a brendan foster / bass gregor love child
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This video is wrong.
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Link your logs so I’ll show you wrong