Marc-André Hamelin definitely wins for best interpretation. He uses his technical mastery to refine every technical anomaly and plays it fluidly and with passion.
Yep...!!! He's get it ALL ... the sex... the drive... the passion... and ... the sinister, seductive nature of this whole piece... and Yes... his tone, sound and color are AMAZING,,, but what sells me... is his DRAMA... One GREAT PIANIST!!!!
Why does everyone go on about Hamelin being a great technician as if that's a bad thing...but I just listened to his Chopin ballad 4 and then Perahia's (the poet of the piano) and I think the depth and emotion was greater with Hamelin! Not to slight Perahia! So can one have it all? Maybe only if the one listening can hear? lol
This is a Sorry performance. Sorry. Does anybody understand panache, bravura, rubato, piannissmo, dynamics? This performance is stop and go, stop and go, stop and go. That is not rubato, its not following the score! What's he doing? Pretending he's an opera singer? Yes he's technically fabulous. So what? Most pianists today are. If you really want technique, then Earl Wild can play, or some of the older guys mention here other than Perahia who plays Chopin like Czerny. There are some youtube clips from Horowitz of this piece when he's barely breathing that run rings are around this Canadian, despite a plethora of wrong notes, he knows how to play the piano. There is a history here, and you folks need to listen to it. Michelangeli, GIlels, Richter, they all play around rings around North Americans because they were trained in a long long tradition. Show a little respect by learning something.
@@ahahahah9629 "Pretending he's an opera singer?" I mean...this piece is literally a fantasy on a Mozart's opera (even the description tells us that), and pianists often have to imitate human voices and/or other instruments on the piano. Idk what points you want to address with this ill-defined and unexplained metaphor but regardless it's quite a terrible metaphor in this context. And you dare insulting others by telling them to "learn something" with such an arrogant attitude while not knowing this basic background knowledge of this piece lol. Next time before you offer a criticism, show a little respect to other audience by not being an arrogant little dick thinking you know everything and are superior to anyone else, and try to understand that music is ultimately subjective and there is nothing wrong with liking a performance that you don't like. Then, try to explain your points with explanation and timestamps instead of throwing a bunch of words and examples without elaboration, and organize your arguments so that they don't look like unrelated sentences put together to form a bunch of gibberish that is grammatically completely wrong and is not even comprehensible :) Btw, I haven't listened to Horowitz's performance, but could you explain what it means by "barely breathing"? I have never heard of people saying that a music performance is good when it's "barely breathing". I believe you, with your absurd amount of musical knowledge, know how important phrasing and breathing are in a western classical performance.
@@tommywong7748 Hi, 'barely breathing' refers to the fact that Horowitz was over 90 when he play a few snatches of this piece and he played it pianissimo, not fortissimo. Horowitz seemed to be 'barely breathing', but then you haven't seen the clip. I mentioned three great great pianists all trained in a tradition and Gilels and Richter's teacher can trace his education back to Liszt directly. That is what I'm talking about. It is still possible to be educated in an authentic classical tradition in European schools. I don't think it is in the U.S. I was being sarcastic about Hamelin trying to imitate an opera singer. I know its an opera transcription and I've listened to it since I was 12. I love the history of music and we can listen to old recordings of this music on RUclips if we want. Try it some time. Maybe you'll be awestruck by some old timers like I've been.
@1fattyfatman, This is certainly one of the most enjoyable recordings of it for me. Hamelin's other record of it is blood boiling, but this is more intellectually focused I think. Then there's also the great recording by Simon Barere that's worth checking out.
Before listening this version, I was simply thinking LangLang's version was best. But now, I'm thinking this version is the best version in human history
I believe Lang Lang is the best interpreter of Liszt because he is Gypsy Wild and a great Showman! As a matter of fact I think he could be the reincarnation of Liszt! These are reminiscences, and as such have absolutely no requirement to be faithful to any score. I doubt whether Liszt himself ever played it the same way twice.
Maybe it's from being from an "ensemble" background but as incredibly clean-sounding and technically perfect as this rendition is, I didn't get the rhythmic sense that Lang Lang's recording (though admittedly not as technically perfect) has. Too many pauses, hesitations, rhythmic bending. It suffered a bit from a less-than-stellar rhythmic flow. i know it's piano, but still.......
Tamas Vasary and of course Cziffra are far better than Hamelin in this work. This is not a comic opera, not a theme and variations with tons of stop and go affectations and false rubato and a clangy, over- miked recording. Why do North American musicians think they are so great when their tradition is Juillard not European... I mean Hamelin isn't even the lightest on his damn fingers at the finale of this piece. He's just an elephant. Like the Lang Man. Find Tamas Vasary somehow. or Cziffra. Hungarians rule.
@@pavlosgermanidis2754 Many of Cziffra's recordings are deleted from the present discography because of their age. However, Hamelin plays Liszt-Cziffra's version of Rigoletto and Rimsky-etc-Cziffra's Flight of the Bumblebee. Hamelin know how to show some respect to a master, even if his worshippers are ignorant deafheads.
@@ahahahah9629 Sorry, I can not find any source that confirms such a recording. Sandor said that Cziffra played Don Juan in Hungary and thats it. And where have you heard Hamelin playing the Cziffra Bumble Bee? To my knowledge, Hamelins own Etude after Rimsky-Korsakov has nothing to do with Cziffras transcription. Also, there is no recording of Rigoletto by Hamelin. By the way, Cziffras studio recording of Rigoletto is almost completely identical with Liszts sheet music..
@@pavlosgermanidis2754 ruclips.net/video/05rrAiGdTvg/видео.html This is Hamelin and others playing R-S Cziffra's flight of the bumblebee. Are you friends with Sandor, I met him backstage at a concert in 1967 at the University of Georgia. He was so great. Try Zenith Recordings, they have old radio recordings of Eastern European Concerts. We can continue this dispute if you like, but I don't like Marc's superhuman style and I'm not going to. I will always prefer Richter and his wrong notes, sorry.
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Marc-André Hamelin definitely wins for best interpretation. He uses his technical mastery to refine every technical anomaly and plays it fluidly and with passion.
In my opinion, this is hands down the best version
I side with Lang Lang, but this performance is spectacular!
Han Chen
@Santino PARDO I 100% agree
Barere is awesome too. As much as I dislike Lang Lang, his Don Juan is great.
Emil Von Sauer.
Totally contrasting with Lang Lang. Both of performances are great.
Yo. tengo al Sr Hamelin. en sus primeros videos y para mí es exelente
This is by far my favorite recording of this piece. WOW.
Hamelin. Gran pianista. ❤
Bellisima obra de Lizst. ❤
Yep...!!! He's get it ALL ... the sex... the drive... the passion... and ... the sinister, seductive nature of this whole piece... and Yes... his tone, sound and color are AMAZING,,, but what sells me... is his DRAMA... One GREAT PIANIST!!!!
Preciosa precentacion. ✅🇲🇽
15:30
Eres Exelente Hamelin. 😂. 🌅🇲🇽. México. 🎹
Tiene temperamento. ✅🇲🇽
So articulatively concentrated!
Excelente Hamelin ravo!!!!¡. 🇲🇽😍. 😂
シャンパンで合ってます。この曲のラストの明るい部分の原題が「シャンパンの歌」と記憶しています。間違ってたらすみません。13:50あたりの部分です。
Why does everyone go on about Hamelin being a great technician as if that's a bad thing...but I just listened to his Chopin ballad 4 and then Perahia's (the poet of the piano) and I think the depth and emotion was greater with Hamelin! Not to slight Perahia! So can one have it all? Maybe only if the one listening can hear? lol
Or if people would simply stop assuming that a pianist with a superior technique could not possible be musical/poetic. Oye!
This is a Sorry performance. Sorry. Does anybody understand panache, bravura, rubato, piannissmo, dynamics? This performance is stop and go, stop and go, stop and go. That is not rubato, its not following the score! What's he doing? Pretending he's an opera singer? Yes he's technically fabulous. So what? Most pianists today are. If you really want technique, then Earl Wild can play, or some of the older guys mention here other than Perahia who plays Chopin like Czerny. There are some youtube clips from Horowitz of this piece when he's barely breathing that run rings are around this Canadian, despite a plethora of wrong notes, he knows how to play the piano. There is a history here, and you folks need to listen to it. Michelangeli, GIlels, Richter, they all play around rings around North Americans because they were trained in a long long tradition. Show a little respect by learning something.
@@ahahahah9629 "Pretending he's an opera singer?" I mean...this piece is literally a fantasy on a Mozart's opera (even the description tells us that), and pianists often have to imitate human voices and/or other instruments on the piano. Idk what points you want to address with this ill-defined and unexplained metaphor but regardless it's quite a terrible metaphor in this context. And you dare insulting others by telling them to "learn something" with such an arrogant attitude while not knowing this basic background knowledge of this piece lol.
Next time before you offer a criticism, show a little respect to other audience by not being an arrogant little dick thinking you know everything and are superior to anyone else, and try to understand that music is ultimately subjective and there is nothing wrong with liking a performance that you don't like. Then, try to explain your points with explanation and timestamps instead of throwing a bunch of words and examples without elaboration, and organize your arguments so that they don't look like unrelated sentences put together to form a bunch of gibberish that is grammatically completely wrong and is not even comprehensible :)
Btw, I haven't listened to Horowitz's performance, but could you explain what it means by "barely breathing"? I have never heard of people saying that a music performance is good when it's "barely breathing". I believe you, with your absurd amount of musical knowledge, know how important phrasing and breathing are in a western classical performance.
@@tommywong7748 Hi, 'barely breathing' refers to the fact that Horowitz was over 90 when he play a few snatches of this piece and he played it pianissimo, not fortissimo. Horowitz seemed to be 'barely breathing', but then you haven't seen the clip. I mentioned three great great pianists all trained in a tradition and Gilels and Richter's teacher can trace his education back to Liszt directly. That is what I'm talking about. It is still possible to be educated in an authentic classical tradition in European schools. I don't think it is in the U.S. I was being sarcastic about Hamelin trying to imitate an opera singer. I know its an opera transcription and I've listened to it since I was 12. I love the history of music and we can listen to old recordings of this music on RUclips if we want. Try it some time. Maybe you'll be awestruck by some old timers like I've been.
Damn. Best interpretation of this piece
Kid
@advisorC101 Hi, is that other 'blood boiling' recording of the work by Hamelin on YTube? Or perhaps you could post a link.
He’s the only pianist I’ve heard that doesn’t make several mistakes on 9:22.
He played it very well, as well as Okada, Belyavsky, Emil von Sauer (a pupil of Liszt's) and Lang Lang.
@@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji emil von sauer played it at a ridiculous speed
@@aakarshitsingh1535 yes, even Busoni but since they're rolls, we can't really predict the speed of their interpretations.
@@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji Busoni is badly speed up
@1fattyfatman, This is certainly one of the most enjoyable recordings of it for me. Hamelin's other record of it is blood boiling, but this is more intellectually focused I think. Then there's also the great recording by Simon Barere that's worth checking out.
Where is that other record?
Sollo Hamelin.
20. 24. Hamelin.
9:15
Lang Lang's is a live performance.
20. -----24
jest kolo
Perhaps Hamelin is the greatest technician in history.
I think probably
Justin Glick not "perhaps". Certainly. Literally no one else comes close. MAYBE Lhevinne.
Justin Glick Hamelin is the greatest virtuoso to have ever existed and ever will exist.
Is Volodos dead?
@@musical_lolu4811 Volodos also has a very amazing technique. Still, Hamelin's finger control is unmatched.
Absolutely amazing. Though I will say that Langlang has a better development in the Champaign aria.
Before listening this version, I was simply thinking LangLang's version was best. But now, I'm thinking this version is the best version in human history
If you're into exploring unknown artists (that will remain unknown by choice) you should definitely check this guy out!
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Cierto. .😂
I still like Louis Kentner's Vox recording best for effortless beauty
Yes! If only the sound on his Vox recordings weren't so "gray"...
Ahora. las mismas hrabackiones. pero sin los videos originales con el sr Lomelín interpretando
lgnaz friedemanns is the best i've heard!!
@ Which Tannhauser recording do you prefer then? I've been unable to find one even close to Friedman's.
@@austinhill5772 Bolet? Cziffra?
too many parts of this piece he ended up not playing.. :/
lang lang's version ia hardest one
Pretty close but I still give the edge to Masaru Okada
This one is more controlled. Hamelin has technique to spare. Okada is on the edge. Very exciting though
I believe Lang Lang is the best interpreter of Liszt because he is Gypsy Wild and a great Showman! As a matter of fact I think he could be the reincarnation of Liszt! These are reminiscences, and as such have absolutely no requirement to be faithful to any score. I doubt whether Liszt himself ever played it the same way twice.
Listen to cziffra
Maybe it's from being from an "ensemble" background but as incredibly clean-sounding and technically perfect as this rendition is, I didn't get the rhythmic sense that Lang Lang's recording (though admittedly not as technically perfect) has. Too many pauses, hesitations, rhythmic bending. It suffered a bit from a less-than-stellar rhythmic flow. i know it's piano, but still.......
Es auténtica. NO Versión. 🇲🇽
さすがリスト。そしてアムラン。
やはり、技巧系の曲でないと聴くに耐えない。シャンパンの歌は技巧もそれなりにあって面白いですね。
No sirve el tráductor. Ya lo puse. pero no traduce.
ショパン？シャンパン？？？？
Tamas Vasary and of course Cziffra are far better than Hamelin in this work. This is not a comic opera, not a theme and variations with tons of stop and go affectations and false rubato and a clangy, over- miked recording. Why do North American musicians think they are so great when their tradition is Juillard not European... I mean Hamelin isn't even the lightest on his damn fingers at the finale of this piece. He's just an elephant. Like the Lang Man. Find Tamas Vasary somehow. or Cziffra. Hungarians rule.
Besides I don't agree with anything you said, there isn't even a cziffra recording of this transcription.
@@pavlosgermanidis2754 Many of Cziffra's recordings are deleted from the present discography because of their age. However, Hamelin plays Liszt-Cziffra's version of Rigoletto and Rimsky-etc-Cziffra's Flight of the Bumblebee. Hamelin know how to show some respect to a master, even if his worshippers are ignorant deafheads.
@@ahahahah9629 Sorry, I can not find any source that confirms such a recording. Sandor said that Cziffra played Don Juan in Hungary and thats it.
And where have you heard Hamelin playing the Cziffra Bumble Bee? To my knowledge, Hamelins own Etude after Rimsky-Korsakov has nothing to do with Cziffras transcription.
Also, there is no recording of Rigoletto by Hamelin. By the way, Cziffras studio recording of Rigoletto is almost completely identical with Liszts sheet music..
@@pavlosgermanidis2754 ruclips.net/video/05rrAiGdTvg/видео.html This is Hamelin and others playing R-S Cziffra's flight of the bumblebee. Are you friends with Sandor, I met him backstage at a concert in 1967 at the University of Georgia. He was so great. Try Zenith Recordings, they have old radio recordings of Eastern European Concerts. We can continue this dispute if you like, but I don't like Marc's superhuman style and I'm not going to. I will always prefer Richter and his wrong notes, sorry.
Pompous tripe
Technically solid, but musically lacking in imagination.
Disagree, but I will say this is one of Liszt's weakest transcriptions. Norma is superior imo.
Lang Lang's interpretation is ways better.
It's also very good. They're very different. Hamelin has better control overall imo.
Sicuramente in questo pezzo le migliori interpretazioni sono quelle di Lang e quella di hamelin
💦 20------------24. México. ☔🕣🇲🇽🎹
12:24
@I STILL HATE MINIONS SO MUCH why not
Congratulations on performing this piece!
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9:23, literally the most absolutely perfect rendition of that part
You play this very well, Mr. Hu.