Mini Chinese Steam Engine

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  • Опубликовано: 19 дек 2024

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  • @johnnyq90
    @johnnyq90  7 лет назад +44

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    • @vaiojoe
      @vaiojoe 7 лет назад +1

      JohnnyQ90 Is love me one for my desk but I see it always boils over. Is there a way to seal or stop that?

    • @davew6998
      @davew6998 7 лет назад +2

      vaiojoe the boil is too harsh, just lower the wick for a smaller flame. You will still boil the water just not such a hard boil

    • @vaiojoe
      @vaiojoe 7 лет назад

      Dave Oh My main concern was at the threads. The relief valve doesn’t seem to give off much.

    • @davew6998
      @davew6998 7 лет назад

      vaiojoe watch the video again the water isn't coming from the thread it spilled over from the piston side. if you have a bigger air gap above the water it won't over boil up into the piston, or have a smaller flame. you need to balance the flame to the boiler size, you wouldn't run this engine with a blowtorch.

    • @vaiojoe
      @vaiojoe 7 лет назад

      Dave Oh Either way awesome machine work. awesome novelty.

  • @rompdude
    @rompdude 7 лет назад +140

    Steam engines have incredible torque for the size compared to combustion as the simply build more steam pressure if it stalls.. The slower it goes due to load the more torque it outputs.

    • @maxms6087
      @maxms6087 4 года назад +2

      Not really a wobbler engine

    • @mrmakinist
      @mrmakinist 4 года назад +1

      m.ruclips.net/video/2UTeH9J2b80/видео.html

    • @pauls5745
      @pauls5745 4 года назад

      well, you have to take material strength in to account. steam can and will rupture any weak spots. you can't have unlimited psi...

    • @zakcritch8706
      @zakcritch8706 3 года назад

      You do have a fair point but runaway steam engines can turn into very powerful bombs under the right conditions

    • @jzjzjzj
      @jzjzjzj 3 года назад +1

      @@zakcritch8706 thats kind of a risk with any engine if you have the slightest clue on how a steam engine works you can pretty much avoid that

  • @Landrew0
    @Landrew0 7 лет назад +42

    "I will increase the capacity of the boiler..."
    I will increase the capacity the piston..."
    "I will increase the capacity of the flywheel. .."
    "I will increase the capacity of the boiler..."

    • @svyatovrat4071
      @svyatovrat4071 5 лет назад +7

      “I will increase the capacity of the capacity of the boiler”

    • @thetruewindwaker1874
      @thetruewindwaker1874 5 лет назад +3

      “I will increase the capacity of the engine”

    • @mrcrbgaming2412
      @mrcrbgaming2412 5 лет назад +3

      "i will increase the capacity of the ham sandwich"

    • @GiantGourd
      @GiantGourd 4 года назад +2

      "I will"

    • @koreaface
      @koreaface 4 года назад

      I will increase the capacity of my nuts

  • @daniellclary
    @daniellclary 5 лет назад +4

    That's cool. Now if you were able to make a condenser and feed the water back into the boiler, you be able to run it so long as you can keep the fire going.

  • @biggreenblob
    @biggreenblob 7 лет назад +2

    that would make for a realllllly cool little steampunk appliance, like a tatoo gun, or a small reciprocating saw, or a die grinder.... the possibilities!

  • @Avetho
    @Avetho 7 лет назад +236

    I think you should try making a closed loop steam engine so you don't use up the water. That could be a cool next project :)

    • @stevato4823
      @stevato4823 6 лет назад +35

      *Nasa wants to know your location*

    • @crackedemerald4930
      @crackedemerald4930 5 лет назад +6

      It would probably need active cooling

    • @brassandbricks7701
      @brassandbricks7701 5 лет назад +23

      What you are suggesting is called a "condenser". It's essentially a big cooling tank into which the engine exhausts. The steam condenses (hence the name) and turns into water that can be pumped back into the boiler.
      This way you lose very little water and can go a looooong time on a single filling ;)

    • @JamesWillmus
      @JamesWillmus 4 года назад +3

      Such a thing exists. Unfortunately, since nothing is 100% efficient, water being heated, used, and cooled repeatedly would not work forever.

    • @alnoso
      @alnoso 4 года назад +5

      with a truly gas-tight seal, a condenser and a small pump of sorts the water would not need to be refilled basically ever. the energy comes from the fuel, so it's not like it would break the laws of thermodynamics. the problem would actually be not creating a water hammer due to the extremely low pressure zone you'd be creating because of it

  • @haydentakara4369
    @haydentakara4369 5 лет назад +5

    I really think with modern improvements a steam engine could actually be practically utilized in a vehicle

  • @chris_1337
    @chris_1337 7 лет назад +73

    It was puttering and I was like "that's cute" and then it got going and I was like -- woah

    • @TheTdw2000
      @TheTdw2000 5 лет назад +5

      The little engine that could

  • @ellieprice3396
    @ellieprice3396 7 лет назад +1

    That's a cute engine that does what it's supposed to do. If I made one I'd polish that brass to a mirror finish and set the little jewel in a curio cabinet for a conversation piece. Engrave my name and date on bottom so grand kids can say, "I can't believe grandpa actually made that pretty little thang !"

  • @harryschaefer5887
    @harryschaefer5887 5 лет назад +5

    MY 6th - 8th grade shop teacher Mr. Bogert made a steam engine so small that 6 of them could fit on a dime. It was featured in "Ripley's Believe it or Not". He powered it with compressed air. Congrats, you do beautiful work.

  • @ecash00
    @ecash00 7 лет назад +16

    Look for Steam oil...it will add compression..
    Add a radiator to Cool the water and recycle..
    Then add a Solar lens.. use the Sun to heat the system..
    Add a generator and away you go..
    They say a Steam turbine at Full is the best for efficiency.. based on Fuel used..

    • @ecash00
      @ecash00 7 лет назад +2

      yep.. if you seal it up with Glass on southern sides, this thing will even work in winter..
      Using an alternate, you can Switch the water to Run inside the home for HEATING, bathing and soforth..
      OR a settling tank, Insulated to hold Hot water over night..

    • @wills.5762
      @wills.5762 7 лет назад +1

      Somehow I doubt that you could make water boil during Canadian winter with nothing save a parabolic oven with a fresnel lens.

    • @ecash00
      @ecash00 7 лет назад

      as long as yo keep the wind off you can let the SUN IN and biol water

  • @grunthostheflatulent269
    @grunthostheflatulent269 7 лет назад +19

    From now on, everytime I close my eyes at night, I will see those unsightly, unfinished solder blobs on the inside of this shiny new reservoir..

  • @carmelpule6954
    @carmelpule6954 6 лет назад +1

    A very nice single cylinder oscillating engine. It is well made and a little honing of the valve gear and a gasket on the boiler thread would correct the little errors seen in this video. Congratulations.

  • @McHeisenburger
    @McHeisenburger 5 лет назад +6

    I don’t know why this makes me so happy, but it does.

  • @rowgler1
    @rowgler1 6 лет назад +1

    Do you think 'modern steam' has a future in residential/camp sized engines that use multi-fuels? The Stirling engines don't have much torque, but the modern materials available now make the neat little models more scale-able. It seems like commercially available steam engines have always been either huge or small models. The technology could be up graded for practical off grid use.

  • @Nintencrow
    @Nintencrow 6 лет назад +1

    Not just showcasing, but suddenly adding new machining content. Very good! Much appreciated.

  • @smallmoneysalvia
    @smallmoneysalvia 7 лет назад +2

    Man you make the best machining videos. You’re not the best machinist on youtube (tubalcain), but your content is some of the most creative and your presentation is fun and engaging.

  • @ScrapwoodCity
    @ScrapwoodCity 7 лет назад +30

    Beautiful work as always!

  • @flitriver
    @flitriver 5 лет назад +6

    I really enjoyed watching the machining process a lot more than the engine running. Good job!

  • @LordDecapo
    @LordDecapo 7 лет назад +130

    you are on the short list of about 4 youtubers,, that when i see a new video, i stop what im doing and watch ASAP. as always great video :D

    • @olsmokey
      @olsmokey 7 лет назад +2

      Put 'Clickspring' onto your list if you haven't already. Pure metal porn.

    • @LordDecapo
      @LordDecapo 7 лет назад

      olsmokey oh of course. I have been a patron of his for loooooooong time now lol. I just watch all of his vids from there early :) email comes.. I'm there!
      .. that reminds me.. I need to look into if johnnyq90 has a patreon. He will be my last entry on my supported people's list :D

    • @crumblesilkskin
      @crumblesilkskin 7 лет назад +1

      How about
      Primitive technology?

    • @LordDecapo
      @LordDecapo 7 лет назад +1

      Vince Rehd correct again :P watched his new video from today already.

    • @doobs930069
      @doobs930069 7 лет назад +1

      Photonicinduction was great before he got married

  • @HoY_82
    @HoY_82 7 лет назад +5

    Serious request. turn the flywheel into an electrical generator. Drill 4 holes around its perimeter and glue in neodymium magnets, then make it a partial shroud with copper coils around it.

  • @Alexander_Sannikov
    @Alexander_Sannikov 7 лет назад

    have you tried increasing surface area of the boiler for better thermal coupling with water? you can just throw in or solder a bunch of brass wire cuttings inside the boiler.

  • @8bit_coder
    @8bit_coder 7 лет назад +1

    I wonder what would happen if you attached fan blades to it. Would it make for a good fan?

  • @p00ky76
    @p00ky76 7 лет назад +53

    Could you collect the exhaust, cool it (would it need to be cooled?) and then pipe it back into the cylinder for a longer run time? All ways love the videos :)

    • @DerKrawallkeks
      @DerKrawallkeks 7 лет назад +23

      yes! That's what they did/do on real steam engines. For example when going across america through desert like areas with no supplies.

    • @asebaninja
      @asebaninja 7 лет назад +9

      They also did it on the London Underground to stop the stations from fogging up too much

    • @Enthropical_Thunder
      @Enthropical_Thunder 7 лет назад +3

      What you suggesting is something that every nuclear powerplant does. Because you do generate entropie (not usable energie) when converting heat energie into electricity. You have to transfer the entropie out of the system by cooling the exhaust gas down to a liquid. Then you can reheat it and re use it.

    • @fastchill
      @fastchill 7 лет назад +11

      This would also increase its power because of the created low pressure zone by condensation. Bringing the water back to the same reservoir might not be possible since it's under pressure.

    • @Enthropical_Thunder
      @Enthropical_Thunder 7 лет назад

      fastchill Therefor he should have some kind of pump installed XD

  • @thumbtak123
    @thumbtak123 6 лет назад +1

    You should make this into a desk fan for cooling the room.

  • @Disinterested1
    @Disinterested1 7 лет назад +3

    I love this channel , as I love the whole "that works but i'm sure we can improve it" mindset :)

  • @wanglydiaplt
    @wanglydiaplt 7 лет назад +1

    Hi there! Any idea what speeds that thing can achieve? If I had an optical tachometer...

  • @zoesdada8923
    @zoesdada8923 6 лет назад +2

    That's a lot of power for such a tiny, simple engine

  • @tarungulati2582
    @tarungulati2582 6 лет назад

    That milling was really satisfying

  • @Killingley1944
    @Killingley1944 6 лет назад

    Nice to see a man who knows how to use a lathe! Great job. How about a nice steam stack for the exhaust!

  • @thenotflatearth2714
    @thenotflatearth2714 5 лет назад +5

    So if you put rice inside it makes poprice?

  • @_superintendent
    @_superintendent 5 лет назад +1

    you could make a small box on top of the exhaust to trap the steam and somehow make the steam go back in the boiler so it could have infinite use?

  • @pypes84
    @pypes84 7 лет назад

    The bubble that popped up in your spirit burner near the end suggests you're overheating it with the new boiler being so low, watch out if your running it for more than a few minutes.

  • @turutzi
    @turutzi 7 лет назад +43

    Would be nice if you could put a generator on it and charge your phone whit it

    • @bryanmartinez6600
      @bryanmartinez6600 6 лет назад +1

      @Adriel Ramos no there is no other option it must be done

    • @BigCool95
      @BigCool95 5 лет назад

      I was thinking the same thing. I would buy one. I lose power a lot and would use it

    • @jimbob7568
      @jimbob7568 5 лет назад

      I don't think it's powerful enough

    • @virtualtools_3021
      @virtualtools_3021 5 лет назад

      @@jimbob7568 are you kidding? Phones use less than 10 watts

  • @maximo1590
    @maximo1590 7 лет назад +9

    Amazing! You really keep outdoing yourself! You are a huge inspiration to me.

  • @Ziraya0
    @Ziraya0 6 лет назад

    I bet if you soldered brass tube around the reservoir, and then wrapped the tube section in a firesafe insullation layer, the tubing would improve heat transfer into the reservoir by giving more contact area and forcing the hot air to remain in contact along the length without mixing cold air in. With more of the flame's heat captured I'd expect faster steam production which should make it stronger, though might not have a huge impact on top speed.

  • @IMMORTALsector21
    @IMMORTALsector21 7 лет назад +1

    Damn I straight up forgot that I was subbed to this channel and how much I loved it till right now haha.....

  • @tribalmemes6414
    @tribalmemes6414 7 лет назад +1

    Sounds better than most cars out there

  • @daveg1208
    @daveg1208 6 лет назад +1

    Loved the modifications to an already neat little steam engine. Thank you for sharing.

  • @sihtosoveltaa6936
    @sihtosoveltaa6936 6 лет назад +2

    Could you please make a belt driven phone charger using a steam engine somewhat like this? That would be awesome to see!

  • @Albert-fe8jx
    @Albert-fe8jx 7 лет назад

    beautifully constructed.

  • @tomgeorge3726
    @tomgeorge3726 7 лет назад +1

    Yes, nice small oscillating steam engine.
    Excellent high quality video production, a pleasure to watch.

  • @Aaron-th4ox
    @Aaron-th4ox 6 лет назад +2

    How does it work, what is going on at the top with the cylinder ??

  • @faragar1791
    @faragar1791 7 лет назад +64

    Make a tesla turbine turbo charger. You could attach it to your nitro engine.

    • @___aaron.m7930
      @___aaron.m7930 7 лет назад

      Agreed

    • @crazybokadi5505
      @crazybokadi5505 7 лет назад +3

      I already made this suggestion in the last video but I’m glad that there are people that would like to see it as much as I want!

    • @DerKrawallkeks
      @DerKrawallkeks 7 лет назад +5

      :D sorry to bust that cool idea;)
      you can't supercharge two stroke engines (...) because they have ports. Once the piston is at BDC, intake and exhaust ports are open at the same time, and your supercharger(or pressurized crankcase charge) blows right through..

    • @RcGaba27
      @RcGaba27 7 лет назад +3

      Twostrokes can be turbo/supercharged. As long as it has a expansion chamber, which most rc engines dont have. But twostrokes sure can be turbo/supercharged!

    • @crazybokadi5505
      @crazybokadi5505 7 лет назад

      DerKrawallkeks Sh!t. U are right ;D what a shame. Should’ve thought about that :(

  • @lightlysalted3562
    @lightlysalted3562 7 лет назад

    What type of alcohol is this? I have the same steam engine and used 70% alcohol and had trouble getting it to wick. Any suggestions?

  • @fredericthom8113
    @fredericthom8113 7 лет назад +1

    this engine can action kind of dremel tool ? no?
    like mini disk cutter or for sanding little part of metal ...

  • @joewoodchuck3824
    @joewoodchuck3824 5 лет назад +4

    This belongs in a "African Queen" model boat.

  • @itsjustnopinionok
    @itsjustnopinionok 6 лет назад +5

    Replace the motor in a Prius with this. Electrical/steam power.

  • @projectdn5
    @projectdn5 7 лет назад +38

    I would love to see if you could incorporate a dynamo to it somehow to see if you could charge a phone with it or maybe a laptop lol

    • @dentification9268
      @dentification9268 7 лет назад +2

      projectdn5 agreed

    • @telefon72
      @telefon72 7 лет назад +2

      It won't

    • @KiwiPowerNZ
      @KiwiPowerNZ 7 лет назад +11

      It'll definitely charge a phone, not sure about a laptop, maybe if the laptop is shutdown and not using any power.

    • @telefon72
      @telefon72 7 лет назад

      I have a hard time believing it will charge a phone, you need atleast 100mA for that, and I don't really thing it will be able to deliver that.

    • @hampusk
      @hampusk 7 лет назад +6

      karlpc200 A 5V phone charger is often rated for around 1A. Charging through the computer would give only 500mA. Don’t know where you got 100mA from but that sounds possible. Anyway, these numbers give 5W, 2.5W and half a Watt. Surely this device is in that neighborhood?

  • @xroller5313
    @xroller5313 6 лет назад

    Good JOB!!! You can produce your own engines.

  • @connortripp2537
    @connortripp2537 6 лет назад

    How much torque do you think that little thing makes?

  • @davidb1089
    @davidb1089 5 лет назад

    I recently bought one of these and it ran well. However between the cylinder and the exhaust it is not forming a tight seal I think it is the problem but not sure if you have any insight please let me know thanks!

  • @dtiydr
    @dtiydr 6 лет назад +6

    The flywheel runs true? Something is wrong, send it back.

    • @candleflame4355
      @candleflame4355 5 лет назад

      Could you explain what you mean, because I have no clue how that is a problem, not to be rude or anything just interested.

    • @nicholaspasznik6625
      @nicholaspasznik6625 5 лет назад +1

      Candle Flame Sarcasm my dude

  • @zellryss4783
    @zellryss4783 6 лет назад

    I would've cut the thing and spot weld a larger brass tube on, but I guess that works as well.

  • @chuckguerin8141
    @chuckguerin8141 4 года назад

    You are perfectionist, lol. It was fine with 2.5 run if you ask me.

  • @roxykattx
    @roxykattx 5 лет назад

    How do you know when it's almost out of water? Presumably you wouldn't run it until it's dry or you'd burn the boiler??

  • @harryvanhoo7235
    @harryvanhoo7235 5 лет назад +1

    Very nice little engine and machining. Is the flame a little bit too close? How is it lubricated? I would imagine with the longer running time this could be an issue.

  • @santhoshkumar.g1517
    @santhoshkumar.g1517 5 лет назад +1

    Which Pires

  • @ChrisBro095
    @ChrisBro095 7 лет назад

    Nice craftsmanship.

  • @haeleth7218
    @haeleth7218 5 лет назад

    I am so jealous of the tools you have access to. Hope you recycled the metal shavings. Nice video!

  • @aayushyadav9263
    @aayushyadav9263 5 лет назад +2

    It would be greater if you had tried to condensed the same water steam to the container.....😉😉

  • @markia_forever
    @markia_forever 7 лет назад +2

    wow so smart we learned about steam engines in class yesterday

    • @jaredalexander3403
      @jaredalexander3403 5 лет назад

      That's pretty cool you were interested enough to watch more about it

  • @patricksawyer9779
    @patricksawyer9779 7 лет назад

    Hmmm.... Now make a tiny water pump that it can drive to keep adding water to the boiler to extend the run time. :D

  • @martinsteenstrup2523
    @martinsteenstrup2523 7 лет назад +1

    great music for the project :)

  • @gorilla4661
    @gorilla4661 6 лет назад

    Thank you for giving me millions for your idea.

  • @BlinkRepeat
    @BlinkRepeat 4 года назад +1

    what runs out first? the fuel or the water? Hmmm...

  • @piggnattisloot1376
    @piggnattisloot1376 5 лет назад +1

    How much was that?

  • @OKMOEngines
    @OKMOEngines 7 лет назад

    This is the engine we designed and manufactured that has been updated to the third generation. It will use metal alcohol lights.Jin

  • @SherlockHolmes-di7tr
    @SherlockHolmes-di7tr 5 лет назад

    3:54 What is this tool called?

  • @afbennett3038
    @afbennett3038 7 лет назад

    Have you got a link to which lathe this is

  • @bobbrueckner7498
    @bobbrueckner7498 5 лет назад

    You went through a whole heck of a lot more trouble than you needed to in order to expand the boiler.
    You could have just made the boiler to sit higher in the legs and cut new threads into the top of it instead of adapting the original top to the new bottom.

  • @claytongame-hughes3803
    @claytongame-hughes3803 7 лет назад

    i think this is just another version of a sterling engine and great vids man keep up the great work and effort

    • @joshhayl7459
      @joshhayl7459 6 лет назад

      To: Clayton game-hughes,
      A Stirling engine runs on WARM (not even HOT)-AIR!! Some are even solar powered!!
      Also, Stirling engine uses no water and operates at a MUCH lower RPM.. so, no, this is NOT another kind of Stirling engine as it also produces MUCH more power than a Stirling engine of anywhere NEAR the same size.
      The steam engine came first anyway.

  • @dejected107
    @dejected107 6 лет назад +1

    would love to get a speed reading on that flywheel

  • @pauldunn1901
    @pauldunn1901 7 лет назад

    before you upgrade this engine there water spit all over the stage after you upgrade there no water coming out cos you have right level of water to making it less over boiling to making t running longer well done and i am enjoyed to watch you making while upgrade the water tank!

  • @yanito1979
    @yanito1979 6 лет назад

    Hi could you tell me what lathe you use? Thanks

  • @sharanvarmas
    @sharanvarmas 7 лет назад

    which model of lathe you are using?

  • @BiggerDreamer
    @BiggerDreamer 5 лет назад +3

    Me:Johnny Johnny..
    Johnny: yes mister..
    Me: building engines
    Johnny: No mister
    Me: telling lies?
    Johnny: no mister
    Me: DAM! I WANT ONE PLEASE

  • @br0th3rtub34
    @br0th3rtub34 5 лет назад

    What did you use to make the hole in the brass rod? Was it a lathe or drill?

  • @DaveC2729
    @DaveC2729 7 лет назад

    I wonder if you could power a small RC plane with this somehow? If not, I'm sure it would at least be enough to run a toy boat. Even 2.5 minutes of run time isn't that horrible for an RC toy, if you couldn't find enough room for your extended boiler, and no lithium batteries forcing you to cool your heels for half an hour of charging after each run; just fill it back up with water, fill up your little alcohol lamp (although I suppose it would probably work better with another flame source, such as one of those cooking torches chefs use to caramelize stuff, which would last a lot longer so probably not need to be refueled) and away you go.

  • @ayushchandani833
    @ayushchandani833 7 лет назад

    What machine you have and how can we use

  • @ProlificInvention
    @ProlificInvention 7 лет назад

    link to buy this model?

  • @WildfoxFabrication
    @WildfoxFabrication 7 лет назад +5

    it should be called the rain machine

  • @Lensteiman
    @Lensteiman 4 года назад

    How the lubrication problem was solved? Any mechanical device requires some kind of lubrication or the seizure will occur.

  • @santhoshkumar.g1517
    @santhoshkumar.g1517 5 лет назад +1

    Price

  • @TheHomerepo
    @TheHomerepo 7 лет назад

    How did you make the flywheel run true?

  • @leerman22
    @leerman22 7 лет назад +1

    Add a condenser/radiator and pump to it!

  • @nettyvoyager6336
    @nettyvoyager6336 7 лет назад

    the applications of that are quite amassing my head went into design brain quake lol

  • @guitarguy4054
    @guitarguy4054 6 лет назад

    I had a littlebit of an idea, what if the steam is collected, condinced then put back to the bottom?

  • @piggnattisloot1376
    @piggnattisloot1376 5 лет назад +1

    How do you make that?

  • @andrewedis9907
    @andrewedis9907 7 лет назад

    How much longer did it take to get up to speed?

  • @SirArghPirate
    @SirArghPirate 7 лет назад

    What's the purpose of the pins you soldered from inside?

    • @KiwiPowerNZ
      @KiwiPowerNZ 7 лет назад

      Make sure it can't separate

  • @gabrielibarra5551
    @gabrielibarra5551 7 лет назад

    You should sell stuff like this I think people would buy 'em, I know I would

  • @creativeturbo
    @creativeturbo 5 лет назад +4

    What is the housefly power of this

  • @conquestking2037
    @conquestking2037 7 лет назад

    Dude what do you do as a job and how much for that equipment?

  • @mahmoudabdelsalam1649
    @mahmoudabdelsalam1649 7 лет назад

    Wow congrats JonnyQ90 its a fast miniengine

  • @coltenharris6870
    @coltenharris6870 3 года назад

    I wonder if it could generate enough electricity to charge a phone cause that would be pretty cool for camping and stuff

  • @coffeepot3123
    @coffeepot3123 4 года назад

    Make it closed loop to retain the water and hook it up with a tiny generator to charge your phone.

  • @FoxSock
    @FoxSock 2 года назад

    that things probably got more power than engine im workin on lol

  • @Matthew-gl8fv
    @Matthew-gl8fv 7 лет назад

    Where do you get your nitro engines from?

  • @TV-xc5ut
    @TV-xc5ut 7 лет назад

    question: why drill holes on the cylinder then block it?