This method also works with sideloaded ABRP. I don't have the premium subscription and it still works with the live data. You can also have multiple apps (such as CarScanner) connected to the OBD2 port dongle at the same time - all provide live data. I like this as the screen controls are always visible and you can quickly jump between the different apps.
Hey Tom, I have been using ABRP for a year now it’s accuracy is very very good, the more you use it the better it gets, its always with in 1-2 % margin of error, its live data is handy I monitor my battery temps with it, it gives me the ability to choose battery preconditioning or not, overall well worth it if you road trip a-lot.
@@LudicrousFeed I use it in my Genesis GV60, ABRP live data is so useful, if the battery is cold I use the car navigation to navigate to the charger, it will precondition the battery if the battery temperature is under 26deg, the only caveat to that is I only do that if its a 350KLW charger I can navigate to, most chargers are 50 to 150KLW so battery temp is not as critical with with the lower rated DC chargers it’s usually a flat charging curve in my car in any case, nonetheless I wouldn’t know this without ABRP telemetry.
Great setup and good to know about the switch where you can turn off the OBD dongle, here's hoping future dongles they think about security far more than what they do now. I had no idea there was such poor security on these dongles.
hyundai also have pretty decent ev trip planning, and have had for a long time! my 2020 ioniq electric will tell me if i do not have the range to get to my destination, offer to automatically add charging stops, and even monitor the chargers added to the route for availability. if one becomes unavailable, it will automatically route to a different charger.
That’s great! I still used ABRP though when I was driving the Ioniq 5 in the UK 😁 2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency ruclips.net/video/_AGhRIQvwN8/видео.html
I use ABRP here in the UK with E208 and it certianly takes away any range worries once you have used it a few times and trust that it will get you home. I did a road trip and it go tme home with 12 miles left as I had configured my home charge int it. Another good feature is the fact it update you on the available chargers at the charger location, red and green circle, so you know if there is a bay free so you can adjust your speed for arrival when one is available. Nice reveiw. I have got the same dongle, just got to get hold of one of those leads. I have an andriod phone and when I paired the dongle to my phone I had to use device labelled for apple phones, but it works.
Yes agreed that it works well on road trips! I used it recently on my drive around the UK in the Hyundai Ioniq 5: 2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency ruclips.net/video/_AGhRIQvwN8/видео.html
Have used the Premium ABRP on the ATTO 3 for a couple of months. Great tool. Usually arrive at destination +/-1% of prediction given at the start of the trip by ABRP. Using on Android Auto. Using the VEEPEAK OBDCheck BLE dongle. P.s. works with the google voice commands for navigation on the road. A great feature is that you can set arrival charge for each stop in a plan independent of the other or default arrival charge setting.
Another way to do it if ppl don't want to mess with the obd2 port (me for example, I use the obd port to provide power to Dashcam... so it's always plugged in), you could get a live data app like tronity to connect with ABRP. This will give you option to do planning using actual historical data when you are not in the car as well.
I've been struggling to get the option to link the Bluetooth OBD adapter for live data and it turns out you need to "save this car" first before the option shows on the car type selected. You can use ABRP without saving the car at all, except for a few options like this. Wow, I spent way too much time on that to figure it out. Your video helped me find the clue; I saw you had more options in the saved car menu - thanks!
Would be awesome if ABRP would indicate when to manually start battery preconditioning, for an upcoming charge point during winther, maybe based on battery temperature, as it seems to able to read that.
Airport works. Also, I've used Evie chargers, which are everywhere, so when you choose them, they get plotted in the Google maps, providing you're already using gm to get somewhere. It asks you if you'd like to add a stop, once you've selected Evei charging station in their app.
Love ABRP especially when linked with live data. Used it a lot in pre-Tesla days. Couldn’t justify the subscription when it works on the phone, which can be in a holder in eyesight.
I use Teslamate which tells me everything about the car using the streaming data. From there i have an ABRP script that syncs to ABRP so i have live data. No cost. Just a raspberry pi
If you want to see the available chargers along your route the native app will show you. Just press on the bowser icon on the right side of the map. You can then select a charger and it will add it to your trip. It's still not useful as Tesla because it doesn't calculate your SOC or recommend stops, but it's not too bad. It will also show the availability and cost of most non Tesla chargers.
Yes noted there’s the native app which will show you chargers but you still have to manually plot it of course whereas ABRP makes it easy giving your options en route to your destination!
I note Tesla is in the midst of upgrading a bunch of chargers to V4 so BYD should pull their finger out and get their cars working with V3 up. Not being able to use the Tesla chargers is a pain. And AFAIK there is no way to only rule out V3 and V4 superchargers in the ABRP app. You have to know which sites are incompatible and rule them out one by one or rule out the whole Tesla network.
@@LudicrousFeed Yes, I saw your story from late May. Hope they address Atto 3's as well. I'm hesitating on taking mine to Melbourne in about 10 days as the Yass SC are being updated on June 10 and 11. Otherwise I'll just take the Model 3. Still deciding. Save an hour in the Tesla.
nice, just got a SP last week so I will give this a solid test, curious whats stopping the car just talking to abrp directly with Bluetooth will live data?
I got the BYD Song L chinese version exported to Egypt. So of course the BYD app is not available yet. I installed Gbox as emulator and downloaded ABRP on the infotainment system directly. I am quite new to all this. Do you think i can do the same using the OBD2?
Hi, in the app settings I don’t find “obd link connection “ on Renault megane E tech is it possible that the car is not accepted by the application? thank you!
@@LudicrousFeed The problem is in the app, Renault Megane don’t have suport, e when I changed the car in the app, the OBD button belonged to me, thanks
Just to add, both Audi(Etron planner), Porsche electric routing and Merc (Electric Intelligence routing) would do it like tesla as well. I think the main difference is that it will precondition the car compare to the obd2 method.
Pleasure. Reasonably good value if you travel long distance often. If you don’t want to pay for ABRP subscription, you can always just mount your phone
Its not difficult to downgrade, put in place the required "switches" then upgrade, which allows this. You do need to be able to follow instructions to the letter mind you, and be into the detail of capitalisation of files etc. *****Completely understand that it is not for everyone***** A much better solution would be for BYD to make WAZE/GMAPS/ABRP available in their store. I believe much of Teslas early success was the integrated route planning charging software and charger network, not necessarily the cars. They developed an EV market with textbook change management. Made it VERY simple for new EV owners. Or better still, companies like BYD, could just licence ABRP and develop CANBUS integration, then their users (particularly first time EV drivers) would be in a far better place than they are now. This would be a trivial exercise on BYDs part, with massive benefits to their customers.
Given the location of the OBD plug in the car you aren't going to leave the extension with the switch plugged in, it's just a hazard if youwere to drive with that dangling on your feet!
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It comes up with a subscription fee in Euros, is there a link to an OZ site ?
@@frankvanderhoeven5634 I don’t believe so … your credit card take care of the conversion
Very impressive Tom! That would be a must-have for anyone doing regular long trips👍
Absolutely! I will be taking this setup with me on future long drives 💯
This method also works with sideloaded ABRP. I don't have the premium subscription and it still works with the live data. You can also have multiple apps (such as CarScanner) connected to the OBD2 port dongle at the same time - all provide live data. I like this as the screen controls are always visible and you can quickly jump between the different apps.
Nice workaround 👍
Great share Tom. Thankfully I have a Tesla but will share this with those who don’t. Cheers.
Pleasure!
That's awesome! It'll definitely give me more confidence for long road trips with BYD.
IKR! 🙏
Hey Tom, I have been using ABRP for a year now it’s accuracy is very very good, the more you use it the better it gets, its always with in 1-2 % margin of error, its live data is handy I monitor my battery temps with it, it gives me the ability to choose battery preconditioning or not, overall well worth it if you road trip a-lot.
Nice! Can you precondition the battery with ABRP? Which car are you driving?
@@LudicrousFeed I use it in my Genesis GV60, ABRP live data is so useful, if the battery is cold I use the car navigation to navigate to the charger, it will precondition the battery if the battery temperature is under 26deg, the only caveat to that is I only do that if its a 350KLW charger I can navigate to, most chargers are 50 to 150KLW so battery temp is not as critical with with the lower rated DC chargers it’s usually a flat charging curve in my car in any case, nonetheless I wouldn’t know this without ABRP telemetry.
Ah yes of course in the E-GMP cars, battery preconditioning can be manually activated 🏆
Great setup and good to know about the switch where you can turn off the OBD dongle, here's hoping future dongles they think about security far more than what they do now. I had no idea there was such poor security on these dongles.
There are other dongles with better security but not sure how compatible they are with ABRP
I like the switch workaround. Neat
Simple and effective
I have a problem with the OBD reader with my MG4. If l leave it plugged in when I lock the car it sets the car alarm off . Very frustrating 😢
Interesting … maybe invest in a switch like that shown in my video to disable it when you lock the car?
hyundai also have pretty decent ev trip planning, and have had for a long time! my 2020 ioniq electric will tell me if i do not have the range to get to my destination, offer to automatically add charging stops, and even monitor the chargers added to the route for availability. if one becomes unavailable, it will automatically route to a different charger.
That’s great! I still used ABRP though when I was driving the Ioniq 5 in the UK 😁
2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency
ruclips.net/video/_AGhRIQvwN8/видео.html
I use ABRP here in the UK with E208 and it certianly takes away any range worries once you have used it a few times and trust that it will get you home. I did a road trip and it go tme home with 12 miles left as I had configured my home charge int it. Another good feature is the fact it update you on the available chargers at the charger location, red and green circle, so you know if there is a bay free so you can adjust your speed for arrival when one is available. Nice reveiw. I have got the same dongle, just got to get hold of one of those leads.
I have an andriod phone and when I paired the dongle to my phone I had to use device labelled for apple phones, but it works.
Yes agreed that it works well on road trips! I used it recently on my drive around the UK in the Hyundai Ioniq 5: 2024 EV Road Trip UK in Hyundai Ioniq 5 Fast Charging Range Efficiency
ruclips.net/video/_AGhRIQvwN8/видео.html
Hi Tom,
Where is the link for obd reader and switch? Sorry if it’s there and I’m just missing it.
Product links are in the video description
Have used the Premium ABRP on the ATTO 3 for a couple of months. Great tool. Usually arrive at destination +/-1% of prediction given at the start of the trip by ABRP. Using on Android Auto. Using the VEEPEAK OBDCheck BLE dongle. P.s. works with the google voice commands for navigation on the road. A great feature is that you can set arrival charge for each stop in a plan independent of the other or default arrival charge setting.
Yes agreed the ability to change the SoC destination in real time helps with planning
Another way to do it if ppl don't want to mess with the obd2 port (me for example, I use the obd port to provide power to Dashcam... so it's always plugged in), you could get a live data app like tronity to connect with ABRP. This will give you option to do planning using actual historical data when you are not in the car as well.
Interesting … might have to look more into this
And how does Tronity gets life data from the car? Via an OBD dongle and your phone 😂
@@moestreinope, just token for car login and it's live.
Thanks for noting the brands that have charger planning! Super helpful facts like that
Pleasure
I've been struggling to get the option to link the Bluetooth OBD adapter for live data and it turns out you need to "save this car" first before the option shows on the car type selected. You can use ABRP without saving the car at all, except for a few options like this. Wow, I spent way too much time on that to figure it out. Your video helped me find the clue; I saw you had more options in the saved car menu - thanks!
@@gertvandijk5849 Glad it helped!
Would be awesome if ABRP would indicate when to manually start battery preconditioning, for an upcoming charge point during winther, maybe based on battery temperature, as it seems to able to read that.
Not that I’ve seen so far … but yes that would be handy
Airport works. Also, I've used Evie chargers, which are everywhere, so when you choose them, they get plotted in the Google maps, providing you're already using gm to get somewhere. It asks you if you'd like to add a stop, once you've selected Evei charging station in their app.
If you know which chargers to stop at then yes it’s easy just to add stops along the way
@@LudicrousFeed abrp turned into airport 🤣 , stupid autocorrect
Love ABRP especially when linked with live data. Used it a lot in pre-Tesla days. Couldn’t justify the subscription when it works on the phone, which can be in a holder in eyesight.
Yup that’s certainly an alternative 👍
I use Teslamate which tells me everything about the car using the streaming data. From there i have an ABRP script that syncs to ABRP so i have live data. No cost. Just a raspberry pi
Useful trick for Tesla x ABRP planning
If you want to see the available chargers along your route the native app will show you. Just press on the bowser icon on the right side of the map. You can then select a charger and it will add it to your trip. It's still not useful as Tesla because it doesn't calculate your SOC or recommend stops, but it's not too bad. It will also show the availability and cost of most non Tesla chargers.
Yes noted there’s the native app which will show you chargers but you still have to manually plot it of course whereas ABRP makes it easy giving your options en route to your destination!
Hi Tom, new OTA on BYD Seal. It has a trip planner now with it sat nav.
Nice! Can't wait to test and document
@@LudicrousFeed at least in Europe anyway ruclips.net/video/Mf_SYMgVdTY/видео.htmlsi=yqSDv_kWc4XlmVQE
I note Tesla is in the midst of upgrading a bunch of chargers to V4 so BYD should pull their finger out and get their cars working with V3 up. Not being able to use the Tesla chargers is a pain. And AFAIK there is no way to only rule out V3 and V4 superchargers in the ABRP app. You have to know which sites are incompatible and rule them out one by one or rule out the whole Tesla network.
We will soon have an update with pre-March 2024 BYD Seal builds and V3/4 compatibility so stay tuned …
@@LudicrousFeed Yes, I saw your story from late May. Hope they address Atto 3's as well. I'm hesitating on taking mine to Melbourne in about 10 days as the Yass SC are being updated on June 10 and 11. Otherwise I'll just take the Model 3. Still deciding. Save an hour in the Tesla.
nice, just got a SP last week so I will give this a solid test, curious whats stopping the car just talking to abrp directly with Bluetooth will live data?
Would be better if EVs just had their own decent trip planning which would then negate the need for 3rd party planning apps … sorry ABRP!
I have this for my dolphin but haven’t used it on a trip yet.
Definitely worth testing soon …
Hi Tom, how would you use ABRP on a Tesla (Model Y) or do you even need to?
Probably not needed if you’re happy to exclusively use Tesla Superchargers on the native Tesla nav app
Is there traffic data on the ABRP navigation app?
Yes live traffic data appears en route 👍
I got the BYD Song L chinese version exported to Egypt. So of course the BYD app is not available yet. I installed Gbox as emulator and downloaded ABRP on the infotainment system directly. I am quite new to all this. Do you think i can do the same using the OBD2?
Can’t be sure sorry but given it’s relatively low cost setup with the OBD2 connector it might be trying regardless
Hey Tom
Interesting. What APPs are required for this?
You’ll need ABRP - link in video description
@LudicrousFeed okay. So no other APP for the OBD2 device required?
You won’t need another app for the OBD2. You’ll need to pair it within the ABRP app but that’s quite straight forward
hi mate, off topic, but does the Seal have OPD?
Not as yet
WOW although the Seal is great value Tesla are still a leader in the EV market
No doubt there is better software integration for the Tesla ecosystem
Hi, in the app settings I don’t find “obd link connection “ on Renault megane E tech is it possible that the car is not accepted by the application? thank you!
If your vehicle is listed in the app and it has an OBD2 port then it will likely be supported. Select the vehicle and you should see Live Data
@@LudicrousFeed Thanks for the reply! the car is set in the app and after I press live data I don't have the option for OBD LINK
Which OBD2 device are you using?
@@LudicrousFeed The problem is in the app, Renault Megane don’t have suport, e when I changed the car in the app, the OBD button belonged to me, thanks
Just to add, both Audi(Etron planner), Porsche electric routing and Merc (Electric Intelligence routing) would do it like tesla as well. I think the main difference is that it will precondition the car compare to the obd2 method.
Yes good point with battery preconditioning: that’s next level efficiency 👍
Too complicated and costly, given you have to pay for this and that subscription. Thanks for your effort in showing us these options.
Pleasure. Reasonably good value if you travel long distance often. If you don’t want to pay for ABRP subscription, you can always just mount your phone
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Pleasure
This is what I don’t get about byd . Aiming to beat Tesla but we have to do all these workarounds for what should be a standard built in feature.
To be fair, Tesla currently doesn’t use non-Supercharger third-party DC chargers to plan routes in its in-car nav
Thanks Tom -
Pleasure
ABRP needs to fire the guy who designed the user interface. An intern could have done a better job.
The UI is due for an update
Don't think you can sideload apps anymore. Need firmware downgrade.
It would be integrated into Android Auto or CarPlay I think - like Spotify, Waze, Google maps etc.
Yes correct, already present with phone projection - Apple/Android. No need to side load
Its not difficult to downgrade, put in place the required "switches" then upgrade, which allows this. You do need to be able to follow instructions to the letter mind you, and be into the detail of capitalisation of files etc. *****Completely understand that it is not for everyone*****
A much better solution would be for BYD to make WAZE/GMAPS/ABRP available in their store.
I believe much of Teslas early success was the integrated route planning charging software and charger network, not necessarily the cars. They developed an EV market with textbook change management. Made it VERY simple for new EV owners.
Or better still, companies like BYD, could just licence ABRP and develop CANBUS integration, then their users (particularly first time EV drivers) would be in a far better place than they are now. This would be a trivial exercise on BYDs part, with massive benefits to their customers.
Given the location of the OBD plug in the car you aren't going to leave the extension with the switch plugged in, it's just a hazard if youwere to drive with that dangling on your feet!
That’s why in the Seal there is a little drawer you can safely keep it in 👍
nice
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