Well I'm no expert and it's easy to be smart after the fact, but I was surprised at 5:38 that the controller gave 2735 the option of taking off after two reports of FOD and then at 5:58 also gave FFT260 the option of landing back on the affected runway.
According to the witnesses on the flight, people were jumping up out of their seats and screaming to stop the plane. Disregarding the obvious fact that an airliner taking off can't instantly stop, this means that those passengers either never fastened their seat belts, or their first action after an emergency was to immediately unfasten their seat belts.
Anyone prefer Vas over most news outlets when covering plane related news? His videos make me feel like I’m a spectator while the incident is happening.
If you know the first thing about aviation, you don't need the broad news coverage to understand what happened. And you get to avoid all the drummed up local angle personal stories. I wonder though what caused the nacel cover to come off? I bet a maintenance crew will get a black eye over that.
Tom Peacock I choose my own news sources, they just don’t go as in depth as I like. Which I don’t like since I am a massive fan of all things aviation 👍🏻
@@Pooneil1984 My guess would be a maintenance issue, metal fatigue. Microfractures in the metal of the cowling that grew too big. During takeoff the strain was too high and the metal tore. Airline claims the cowling is not really needed it's just for areodyamics
Jonathan .. Janet flights go to/from Vegas to Tonopah, NV, Area 51, Creech AFB, Holloman AFB, Edwards AFB and even Nellis AFB ... It all depends on who needs to go where
If there was probable debris on the runway, why was ATC asking the pilots if they want to risk it, rather than shutting down that part of the runway until it was cleared ?
Why do they call the debris FOD? FOD is what happens when you ingest or collide with debris. Using the adjective as a noun irks me. The debris should be FO.
The controller with the deep voice was a real pro. Every word clear, speech pattern slow enough to understand. Good enunciation, cadence, and expression.
Its also believed to be the first time EVER that the Reverse Engine cowling also came open o a Airbus A320. Which has 3 latches on the bottom that also gets checked on pre-flight.
I love frontier planes! They're named by animals. My favourite is Cubby the bear! Who wouldn't want to be with cubby the bear? My anxiety of flying drops by 50% :)
@@TheProPilot no didn't know that, but that's super cute too! Chubby the baby 🐻 :) btw I subscribed to your channel because you have a lot of funny videos in your play list :)
No, RyanAir would try and charge pax for the part that fell off, telling them that if they want it on the plane then they have to pay an extra $8 each.
You have such a fantastic channel here mate, everything is so accurate and detailed...... something that other similar channels fail to do on many occasions. You should be proud of your content, fantastic work mate.!!!!!
I agree with many comments about them departing and not clearing the runway for debris check. Ridiculous. The pilot that said no way we aren't departing was on his game. Made no sense to not sweep the runway.
Pete Trebesch This incident was pretty straight forward. Pilot did what he had to do, declare emergency, land as soon as possible. For ATC, nothing big, a vector onto downwind, and set up for a straight in approach. Normal day at the office.
Enjoy your videos... after watching the one explaining the maps, I have a request: Would it be possible for you to begin using the geographical overlay as well? It really helps me visualize the data when I can see that overlay. I'd be willing to bet it would help many others as well. Thanks for your consideration.
A great example of professional pilots but clearly the controller did not act in a professional manner with the least bit of safety in mind when he gave the option for takeoff or hold on the affected runway after two reports of FOD !! I have never heard that before, neither here or in the cockpit.
Sure it’s maybe not the safety but it’s not the controllers job to determine what’s acceptable for the pilot to take off. Always the pilots responsibility, I’ve see;it many times at my airport
There's a prox sensor on those fan cowls. I dont understand why they didn't have a light in the cockpit or how they missed it during checklist. Never shoulda/woulda left the terminal much less take off. ?
Elliott Shay Panic, and screaming is not what you want in the cockpit. He stated his problem, and went back to flying and preparing for his approach. Pilots and ATCers, train themselves to control their emotions during a stressful situation. I have reviewed many recordings, and most of the screaming pilots were General Aviation types. I do not criticize them, but trying to give control instructions, to some one in a panic mode is almost impossible. ,
Why did they not close 19R until they'd done a debris check? I'm not a pilot, but I think not puncturing tires is important. Edit: debris was on/by 26R
ahgflyguy On Google, type in KLAS charts, select one, Jeppesen, for example, scan through it until you find the airport layout chart. Do this the Next time you watch one of these presentations, it will help you. Use the 4 letter icao airport identifier.
Janet 618. Janet: just another non existing terminal! They fly government employees to area 51! They have to fly! Thats the only way they can get there! Very suprised that was public!
Seems like the two flights that took off after frontier were in far more danger than Frontier was. Glad it didn't end up like the Concorde. But why was the second one allowed to take off after the first one reported the FOD?? And then he even asks the third one if they want to take off! Seems like report of FOD on the runway should be an immediate closure and inspect.
@@sesc79 fwiw all accidents happen for more than one reason / factor. This is commonly known as the Swiss cheese model. Often times accidents can be avoided / mitigated by simply removing one link in the chain. The link in this instance could well have been the previously reported FOD. It's fortunate nothing else happened.
Unfortunately this is a common issue with the Airbus. If MX doesn’t secure the cowling completely after servicing: during preflight it looks secured. The way it rests looks totally closed AND latched. The new NEO engines have an actual sensor that shows the cowling isn’t fully latched closed because this has been such a problem.
@@EinkOLED And you know this how? NO information has been released to the public. If you look at the videos online, the cowling was missing well ahead of the part of the engine that houses the thrust reverse mechanisms.
@@1Ocqueoc 11:42 in that video, you can clearly see they're open in flight. Like blancolirio had said, if any of those heavy structures come off in flight, it is likely they'll hit part of the wing, fuselage or horizontal stabiliser which would probably result in a loss of control or mid air breakup. I also recommend you subscribe to his videos, he is a remarkable guy who has flown military aircraft to the A320, 737,757,767 and 777 with AA.
That’s nothing, in I think 2002 in a 767 we had complete engine detachment after a major bird strike over the pacific, cabin lost pressure, 90% of the engine was gone, major wing damage and it was complete chaos, everyone thought we were going down, until we could get turned around.
That would be two mechanics AND the First Officer. There are two people on the ground that are supposed to independently check those latches on the cowlings, and the First Officer is supposed to do that during his pre-flight check.
@@jazzcatt i"ll feel bad for those 2 for losing their licence and a possible jail time but at the same i dont feel bad since safety wasnt at full effect when doing 360 inspection
@@GlennChambers Although I'm not sure the exact diagnosis of the ATC lady, but from listening to the communication tape, it is sure not consistent with a drunk person but rather a medical seizure or in less probability a stroke .
@@GlennChambers I believe that you're wrong, I just googled "Las Vegas air traffic controller November 7th 2018" while 'drunk' and 'stroke' pop up as search suggestions, nothing from news sources suggest either and that she resigned.
@@Bl4ckw0lf1 An air traffic controller who became incapacitated during a solo stint on a night shift in the tower at busy McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas last week has quit, authorities said Tuesday. The unidentified controller was no longer employed by the Federal Aviation Administration, the agency said in a statement.
So this has happened again!!! The CAA report on the BA Airbus incident at Heathrow was pretty damming! Apparently Airbus's dont have sensors to tell the crew if the cowlings are unlatched. Even my Ford has that!!!
Yes, confirmed in the video. The TR's were open. Either the Tech left them unlatched -OR- the latches failed. When the TR cowls opened, they took out the Fan Cowls also.
The base leg is one of the legs of a traffic circuit (also called traffic pattern) in which the airplane flies perpendicular to the runway and gets ready for a final turn for landing.
To make a turn to the base leg... Some times ATC uses the terminology used at uncontrolled airports. In that case, planes fly a pattern like a race track, with four 90 degree turns. Take a look at the flight path of FFT260... After take off, he made a left turn, that would be the "cross-wind leg", ATC then turned him east bound, that's the "down wind leg", then a turn to the north; "the base leg", followed by a left turn to the "final leg" Note that at 6:20, ATC turns Alaska 1480 to 010 which is the down wind leg for 19R. But then he added "base turn for 19R" which I found confusing. I "guess" he meant to expect a turn to base after he was north of the airport??
If only Alaska Air would have declared emergency and turned around as soon as they realized something was wrong (they had a jammed stabilizer) maybe they would have survived. :( Frontier did really good that they went back right away.
well, the crew of Swissair flight 111 decided to dump fuel instead to land immediatly in Halifax (they had smoke in the cockpit)... "we wanna get in right away" are the keywords in this video!
@@1bottlejackdaniels yes Swissair also didn't come back right away, and also they turned off the air circulation, which prompted the fire straight into the cockpit. :(
@@1bottlejackdaniels yes, agreed. And ATC would have accommodated ANY approach...only bad thing about the whole incident, well bad things, 1. Someone didn't latch that cowling good nor was it checked and 2 ATC asking if American wanted to take off after FOD was reported on the runway
It seems weird pilots had no information about the issue (alarm, vibrations ...)...at least it isn't shown. I mean, it's the tower and other flight that warned the Frontier pilots...and then they declared emergency. By the way, good job for this video.
Depends on how long it takes to get another plane. Years ago, I had a flight where there was a maintenance problem with the plane. We had our "breakfast" scrambled eggs, I don't remember what else, for lunch about noon.
Common cowling engine issue with the A320’s. Airbus has issues many notices to operators regarding properly checking that the cowlings are fully closed.
A319,320,321 Aircraft have been doing this for years. This happens if you take off with the fan cowls unlatched and it has nothing to do with FOD. So VASAviation, this is something that was missed on preflight. Was it missed by those "professional pilots" you mentioned?
I would like to hear the whole thing; to understand better the process of getting down and the communication between tower and pilots as the plane safely lands.
Question from a dumb observer...Why would the control operator clear the plane to land and then clear a plane to takeoff on the same runway? If the plane taking off has an issue then the emergency aircraft has to go around.
![[REAL ATC] FedEx MD10 lands WITHOUT FLAPS at San Diego!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-lqaSkOfAJA/mqdefault.jpg)
![[REAL ATC] FedEx MD10 lands WITHOUT FLAPS at San Diego!](/img/tr.png)
*Another great example of professional pilots and controllers! Glad it ended up well.*
Well I'm no expert and it's easy to be smart after the fact, but I was surprised at 5:38 that the controller gave 2735 the option of taking off after two reports of FOD and then at 5:58 also gave FFT260 the option of landing back on the affected runway.
1:57 "on his right iwng"
@@ghostfox2473 Yeah, we saw that Sherlock 4:29
I’m curious about the sr22 that crashed on the Kennesaw State University campus a few days back
Another great example of professional aviation videos by VAS...the gold standard.
According to the witnesses on the flight, people were jumping up out of their seats and screaming to stop the plane. Disregarding the obvious fact that an airliner taking off can't instantly stop, this means that those passengers either never fastened their seat belts, or their first action after an emergency was to immediately unfasten their seat belts.
Morons
Anyone prefer Vas over most news outlets when covering plane related news? His videos make me feel like I’m a spectator while the incident is happening.
Vas is actually realistic, the media can just overreact some times
If you know the first thing about aviation, you don't need the broad news coverage to understand what happened. And you get to avoid all the drummed up local angle personal stories. I wonder though what caused the nacel cover to come off? I bet a maintenance crew will get a black eye over that.
Tom Peacock I choose my own news sources, they just don’t go as in depth as I like. Which I don’t like since I am a massive fan of all things aviation 👍🏻
@EmiIio Fernandez see you literally everywhere :p
@@Pooneil1984
My guess would be a maintenance issue, metal fatigue. Microfractures in the metal of the cowling that grew too big. During takeoff the strain was too high and the metal tore. Airline claims the cowling is not really needed it's just for areodyamics
5:08 - Janet 618, that's the shuttle that takes workers to the government sites, like Area 51.
Just another not legally existent transport
Jonathan .. Janet flights go to/from Vegas to Tonopah, NV, Area 51, Creech AFB, Holloman AFB, Edwards AFB and even Nellis AFB ... It all depends on who needs to go where
😂 I was just giving my wife the backstory on that ‘Janet’ flight.
Good catch. Came to comment
Dam you beat me to it lol funny to hear those red striped bastards on tape acting like normal planes
Nope, we’re not taking off until the runway is checked for fod. Frontier 260 do you want 26L or the one with the fod on it 🤦♂️
Well, it's _their_ FOD, maybe they want it back?
If there was probable debris on the runway, why was ATC asking the pilots if they want to risk it, rather than shutting down that part of the runway until it was cleared ?
Er, "there is FOD on the runway, you still want to takeoff?" wtf?
My mom always told me "When it is your stuff, you have to clean it up!". So, while they're rolling over their own FOD, they can pick it up :D
Why do they call the debris FOD? FOD is what happens when you ingest or collide with debris. Using the adjective as a noun irks me. The debris should be FO.
The controller with the deep voice was a real pro. Every word clear, speech pattern slow enough to understand. Good enunciation, cadence, and expression.
Your dedication and consistency is much appreciated VAS.
Your support is appreciated!
Great to see other pilots being observational and responsive to issues -- even if it's Spirit Airlines...
LAS APP on 135.0 was super cool! Easy, slowly speaking, asking for the final length... well done!
I spent my entire career wishing i had a radio voice like his;.
I really love how you put the live video parts in with the videos! Professional by everyone involved, ATC, Pilots and VASAviation!
That’s JANET plane was just flying back from Area 51
UPDATE: a lot of you were asking where the Janet call sign was, Check 5:05
Or Edwards or Tonopah or Fallon. Those defense contractors don't just work at the Nellis Range.
And another one just departed that way.
I caught that as well.
What's the timestamp of JANET? I didn't catch it.
@@VASAviation I have FlightRadar24 and ATC live. What time should I watch/listen yo Las Vegas airport to catch Janet? And what it's her call signal?
Its also believed to be the first time EVER that the Reverse Engine cowling also came open o a Airbus A320. Which has 3 latches on the bottom that also gets checked on pre-flight.
Can't believe that two planes took off with FOD. That could have ended very badly.
I love frontier planes! They're named by animals. My favourite is Cubby the bear! Who wouldn't want to be with cubby the bear? My anxiety of flying drops by 50% :)
You realize that probably half the pilots call it Chubby? Right? 😁
@@TheProPilot no didn't know that, but that's super cute too! Chubby the baby 🐻 :) btw I subscribed to your channel because you have a lot of funny videos in your play list :)
I know, aren't they wonderful!! I wouldn't fly with anyone else unless I had to.
*_Ryanair would just tell passengers that part is not important_*
Facts
😃😂
Ryanair actually has an EXCELLENT safety record and they take good care of their aircraft because they want them to last a long time.
That's what frontier said as well
No, RyanAir would try and charge pax for the part that fell off, telling them that if they want it on the plane then they have to pay an extra $8 each.
You have such a fantastic channel here mate, everything is so accurate and detailed...... something that other similar channels fail to do on many occasions.
You should be proud of your content, fantastic work mate.!!!!!
Welcome aboard!
That approach controller has a terrific tone
Amazing video editing, thanks for the details. Nice work
oh wow!! i didnt expect another video so quickly. You should have 500k subscribers at least. I love the information and the animations you make :D
Thank you, Mara!
I agree with many comments about them departing and not clearing the runway for debris check. Ridiculous. The pilot that said no way we aren't departing was on his game. Made no sense to not sweep the runway.
ATC - Engine Cowling, do you copy?
EC - Engine Cowling.
ATC - Ok Engine Cowling, I got a number for you...
Always an interesting dance between ATC and the planes.
Pete Trebesch This incident was pretty straight forward. Pilot did what he had to do, declare emergency, land as soon as possible. For ATC, nothing big, a vector onto downwind, and set up for a straight in approach. Normal day at the office.
Second time in a row Spirit has come in clutch to the rescue
Enjoy your videos... after watching the one explaining the maps, I have a request: Would it be possible for you to begin using the geographical overlay as well? It really helps me visualize the data when I can see that overlay. I'd be willing to bet it would help many others as well. Thanks for your consideration.
Hoping he sees this and concurs. ☺️
2:50 listen closely, you can hear the CFM56 engine roar when Frontier speaks lol
Woah, good catch!
A great example of professional pilots but clearly the controller did not act in a professional manner with the least bit of safety in mind when he gave the option for takeoff or hold on the affected runway after two reports of FOD !! I have never heard that before, neither here or in the cockpit.
What threw me for a loop was the "pull over to the left. "
Sure it’s maybe not the safety but it’s not the controllers job to determine what’s acceptable for the pilot to take off. Always the pilots responsibility, I’ve see;it many times at my airport
There's a prox sensor on those fan cowls. I dont understand why they didn't have a light in the cockpit or how they missed it during checklist. Never shoulda/woulda left the terminal much less take off. ?
Barring any damage to the engine's plumbing & wiring, is there any reason why they couldn't keep that engine running for the return flight?
Hey, nice cameo by Janet 618, the Dreamland Express!
“There’s a fire or something out there”. Glad he sounds real alarmed about it. A fire or something
Probably ex-combat pilot.
Elliott Shay Panic, and screaming is not what you want in the cockpit. He stated his problem, and went back to flying and preparing for his approach. Pilots and ATCers, train themselves to control their emotions during a stressful situation. I have reviewed many recordings, and most of the screaming pilots were General Aviation types. I do not criticize them, but trying to give control instructions, to some one in a panic mode is
almost impossible.
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@Tx 223 Whatever, boomer. Why don't you regale us with gripping stories of your daily TV sessions?
How to you go back to find the emergency transmissions
Great video again, as always!
2:40 onwards - Pilot sounds scared to death.. Still landed the damn thing!
Why did they not close 19R until they'd done a debris check? I'm not a pilot, but I think not puncturing tires is important.
Edit: debris was on/by 26R
Why close 19R? The debris was on 26R - the runway the aircraft departed on.
Star Gazer I must have misremembered what I heard. That makes sense. Thanks.
ahgflyguy On Google, type in KLAS charts, select one, Jeppesen, for example, scan through it until you find the airport layout chart. Do this the Next time you watch one of these presentations, it will help you. Use the 4 letter icao airport identifier.
It was either left unlocked by the tech, or the plane hit a wabbit on the wunway during takeoff roll.
Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids.
More likely, _gremlins from the Kremlin..._
Maybe they will officially designate one area as a wabbit Runway to keep the flow of traffic moving and the wabbits safe
Wouldn't that be the takeoff woll?
Shut up
Would you make the history of crash lion air JT610?
What does FOD (on the runway) stand for?
Foreign Object Debris.
That Janet call-sign is the Test Site flight
Good channel, just subscribed.
The red EM above the ident; is that from squawking the emergency frequency?
They Squawk 7700 then there radar return is red with EM attached to it's tag for emergency
@@c.j.t1061 Danke
If they don't squawk 7700, the ATC can manually declare for them and the red EM appears.
Excellent coverage of the incident.
This happened to a British airways aircraft leaving Heathrow, I think it was both engine cowlings
Great video footage 👍
Janet 618. Janet: just another non existing terminal! They fly government employees to area 51! They have to fly! Thats the only way they can get there! Very suprised that was public!
Why? ....that it wouldn't be public? Everybody's known that since it started.
Janet 618... Hover at 6000! LOL
The ATC on the emergency looks like a robot! Amazing the difference between him and the colombian ATC on the lufthansa's incident.
Eduardo Pessoa Two completely different situations, this one was a piece of cake. The one in Colombia, a bit more complicated.
Must be really tough on a plane to fly from Alaska to Vegas.
Is it possible to highlight or place a mic/speaker icon above the call sign that's speaking for better situational awareness as we watch?
Seek for FFT260, lime color with a red EM (EMergency) above.
Approach controller has a great voice !
** Its the FIRST OFFICER'S job to check and make sure each engine cowling is lock on pre-flight walk around inspection.
Seems like the two flights that took off after frontier were in far more danger than Frontier was. Glad it didn't end up like the Concorde. But why was the second one allowed to take off after the first one reported the FOD?? And then he even asks the third one if they want to take off! Seems like report of FOD on the runway should be an immediate closure and inspect.
FWIW, the Concorde accident had to do with much more than FOD. Watch ruclips.net/video/fqOcYhzWUZY/видео.html
@@sesc79 fwiw all accidents happen for more than one reason / factor. This is commonly known as the Swiss cheese model. Often times accidents can be avoided / mitigated by simply removing one link in the chain. The link in this instance could well have been the previously reported FOD. It's fortunate nothing else happened.
From the still image it looks like the cowl wasn't secured before takeoff. Anyone know yet if that is the case or if it just failed.
Unfortunately this is a common issue with the Airbus. If MX doesn’t secure the cowling completely after servicing: during preflight it looks secured. The way it rests looks totally closed AND latched. The new NEO engines have an actual sensor that shows the cowling isn’t fully latched closed because this has been such a problem.
I am sure it was Hillary, that is why she has been hung@SpyingDutchman
@SpyingDutchman you are such a dumb person. Trump gets bad press because he's a con artist criminal, and all his supporters are trick doofuses.
@@HeathHunnicutt Just a note! Your "Shitforbrains" is showing!
@SpyingDutchman
I'm surprised that they haven't blamed his hair for the Alaskan earthquake yet when he landed for the G20 summit.
They all got a breakfast voucher, why complain? 🤣
What they got was a full refund, rebooked on another flight and a $500 voucher for future travel. Frontier did right by these folks!
I suppose it was to replace the breakfast they lost on the flight!
@@EinkOLED And you know this how? NO information has been released to the public. If you look at the videos online, the cowling was missing well ahead of the part of the engine that houses the thrust reverse mechanisms.
@@1Ocqueoc ruclips.net/video/WhNBF6lhUOE/видео.html
@@1Ocqueoc 11:42 in that video, you can clearly see they're open in flight. Like blancolirio had said, if any of those heavy structures come off in flight, it is likely they'll hit part of the wing, fuselage or horizontal stabiliser which would probably result in a loss of control or mid air breakup. I also recommend you subscribe to his videos, he is a remarkable guy who has flown military aircraft to the A320, 737,757,767 and 777 with AA.
That’s nothing, in I think 2002 in a 767 we had complete engine detachment after a major bird strike over the pacific, cabin lost pressure, 90% of the engine was gone, major wing damage and it was complete chaos, everyone thought we were going down, until we could get turned around.
Looks like a mechanic will be in under investigation
That would be two mechanics AND the First Officer. There are two people on the ground that are supposed to independently check those latches on the cowlings, and the First Officer is supposed to do that during his pre-flight check.
@@jazzcatt i"ll feel bad for those 2 for losing their licence and a possible jail time but at the same i dont feel bad since safety wasnt at full effect when doing 360 inspection
The US does not give jail time for airline errors like some other countries do.
Is there any news on the incident with that one lady ATC who somehow required medical services?
Wondering the same thing.
@@GlennChambers personally, I don't think that I would even attempt to do something akin to that knowingly on the job.
@@GlennChambers Although I'm not sure the exact diagnosis of the ATC lady, but from listening to the communication tape, it is sure not consistent with a drunk person but rather a medical seizure or in less probability a stroke .
@@GlennChambers
I believe that you're wrong, I just googled "Las Vegas air traffic controller November 7th 2018" while 'drunk' and 'stroke' pop up as search suggestions, nothing from news sources suggest either and that she resigned.
@@Bl4ckw0lf1 An air traffic controller who became incapacitated during a solo stint on a night shift in the tower at busy McCarran International Airport in Las Vegas last week has quit, authorities said Tuesday.
The unidentified controller was no longer employed by the Federal Aviation Administration, the agency said in a statement.
That was Grizwald the Grizzly Bear! Glad the bear and everyone on it's board are ok!
Janet makes an appearance? that's a rare one!
wow thats some alaskan earthquake..rattled the cowling off over tampa
I thought he was joking about pulling over to the left!
That engine gave up.
We done pilots!
So this has happened again!!! The CAA report on the BA Airbus incident at Heathrow was pretty damming! Apparently Airbus's dont have sensors to tell the crew if the cowlings are unlatched. Even my Ford has that!!!
Not only was the fan cowl open but the thrust reverser was open. The only way for this to happen is the mechanic left them unlatched, oops
Yes, confirmed in the video. The TR's were open. Either the Tech left them unlatched -OR- the latches failed. When the TR cowls opened, they took out the Fan Cowls also.
More precisely - the TR Cowls were open. Obviously not the TR’s themselves.
Wow, you're faster than Usain Bolt
Wasn't paying attention properly and thought the pilot in the air was going to pull off to the left for a minute
I heard it that way too and thought it was pretty funny. Until the response was obviously not in line with that understanding.
Why was the runway not closed immediately after first report?
How to open the cowling covers starts around 8 min.
ruclips.net/video/WhNBF6lhUOE/видео.html
I worked this aircraft the night before this. Crazy.
What does base turn mean?
The base leg is one of the legs of a traffic circuit (also called traffic pattern) in which the airplane flies perpendicular to the runway and gets ready for a final turn for landing.
To make a turn to the base leg... Some times ATC uses the terminology used at uncontrolled airports. In that case, planes fly a pattern like a race track, with four 90 degree turns. Take a look at the flight path of FFT260... After take off, he made a left turn, that would be the "cross-wind leg", ATC then turned him east bound, that's the "down wind leg", then a turn to the north; "the base leg", followed by a left turn to the "final leg"
Note that at 6:20, ATC turns Alaska 1480 to 010 which is the down wind leg for 19R. But then he added "base turn for 19R" which I found confusing. I "guess" he meant to expect a turn to base after he was north of the airport??
@@VASAviation Thank you.
@@jcl410 Thank you for the reply.
its the lady from the stroke video in the background!
Ooo I would say this flight was not wired tight ! Damn it man - $
If only Alaska Air would have declared emergency and turned around as soon as they realized something was wrong (they had a jammed stabilizer) maybe they would have survived. :( Frontier did really good that they went back right away.
well, the crew of Swissair flight 111 decided to dump fuel instead to land immediatly in Halifax (they had smoke in the cockpit)...
"we wanna get in right away" are the keywords in this video!
@@1bottlejackdaniels yes Swissair also didn't come back right away, and also they turned off the air circulation, which prompted the fire straight into the cockpit. :(
@@1bottlejackdaniels yes, agreed. And ATC would have accommodated ANY approach...only bad thing about the whole incident, well bad things, 1. Someone didn't latch that cowling good nor was it checked and 2 ATC asking if American wanted to take off after FOD was reported on the runway
It seems weird pilots had no information about the issue (alarm, vibrations ...)...at least it isn't shown. I mean, it's the tower and other flight that warned the Frontier pilots...and then they declared emergency.
By the way, good job for this video.
I've always wondered why they don't have cameras to look at the engines and control surfaces. I assume they do on the current gen aircraft?
Princeofcups Poc Yes, inflight video entertainment for the cockpit crew.
Great content
Passengers were given a free breakfast by the airline but I don’t think I’d want to eat after an experience like that lol
I would. I'm usually starving when I fly, not sure what makes me hungry, I'm scared of flying but I still get really hungry :)
Depends on how long it takes to get another plane. Years ago, I had a flight where there was a maintenance problem with the plane. We had our "breakfast" scrambled eggs, I don't remember what else, for lunch about noon.
LeTang 👍🏻 the channels I follow are bigrigtravels, virtualrailfan, f1 and a lot of military aircraft/vehicle channels
Emilio Fernandez Hombre, it was just a cowling!, would you not eat breakfast after the windshield on your car broke? Get some nuts!
Common cowling engine issue with the A320’s. Airbus has issues many notices to operators regarding properly checking that the cowlings are fully closed.
you can bet your ass EVERY Airbus 320 driver is aware of this issue today
after this i went to flightradar24 and caught JANET WWW474 coming on radar over sugar bunker lol.
need to watch PushingTin
A319,320,321 Aircraft have been doing this for years. This happens if you take off with the fan cowls unlatched and it has nothing to do with FOD. So VASAviation, this is something that was missed on preflight. Was it missed by those "professional pilots" you mentioned?
Is it just me, or has there been an uptick in cowling failures in the last couple of years?
Watch out for that wrong turn over Albuquerque
Its a hot rod version of the engine. Open view to see turbine churning haha.
Meanwhile Janet 618 from Area 51 :)
Janet!!! You don't hear that very often, probably come from the "most secretive not so secret" military base in the World.....
So what do we want to bet that this damage was caused by a maintenance screw-up?
I didn't realize planes could "pull over."
*Hurray, someone else caught that, too*
They can certainly pull over when they're in line taxiing to the runway.
area 51 janet plane mentioned
A part of the engine lost the complete plane!
You have a Janet on the radio.
that's correct.
what no alarm? not even a "Your Cowling is ajar!" message
A che serve?...
Crazy thing is, I was on that exact same plane a month ago
Mr. Travel Aviation Wow, lucky you!
Crazy thing is, I was on the exact same planet just yesterday!
Don't pilots do a walk around any more ?
First officers job to make sure latches are closed properly.
Dohh!!
Man, Vegas is just a desert!
It's a dessert. Very enticing, but you get sick of it real quick.
I would like to hear the whole thing; to understand better the process of getting down and the communication between tower and pilots as the plane safely lands.
Question from a dumb observer...Why would the control operator clear the plane to land and then clear a plane to takeoff on the same runway? If the plane taking off has an issue then the emergency aircraft has to go around.
If some conditions concur, that can be done in the United States.
VASAviation - Would an emergency aircraft landing impact that?
Doesn’t this always happen to airbus planes, the Air France A380 and now this
ruclips.net/video/3mJCI-NCxoI/видео.html
Well I guess it happens to all planes
Janet airlines doesn’t exist - ooops !
Vegas to Tampa?....there is not one good person on that flight...
beef flow3000 one heck of a burn lol
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beef flow3000 Yankees from the Northeast move to Tampa,and bring their nasty attitude with them
Imagine the flight crews reaction when given this flight!,,,
Lmao