Fossils from Underneath Greenland Rewrite History of Its Ice Sheet

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  • @spacelemur7955
    @spacelemur7955 29 дней назад +64

    I showed this to my wife under the header "Why one should never throw anything out." She was not amused.

    • @GiarkReleos
      @GiarkReleos 28 дней назад +4

      get her to watch "The Red green show"

    • @DrSmooth2000
      @DrSmooth2000 27 дней назад +7

      Clutter is Strength 💪

    • @Lovin_It
      @Lovin_It 24 дня назад +1

      Then, you walked onto the sidewalk, and asked a young teenager, 'we can see each other, because in the long run, we are practically the same age' [just joking]

    • @reuireuiop0
      @reuireuiop0 23 дня назад +2

      @@spacelemur7955
      Even if it stays within the walls, archeologists will still find it after 10k years, in the remains of your house ;)

    • @spacelemur7955
      @spacelemur7955 23 дня назад +1

      @@reuireuiop0 😅 Well, it's doubtful, as I am rather too close to sea level. 10K years presumes that icecaps have returned AND, if they do, archeologists aren't too busy with all the really interesting stuff y'all have left behind. 😉🍻

  • @joeamerican2611
    @joeamerican2611 Месяц назад +210

    Strangely I can remember scientists finding these types of fossils over 60 years ago and they were essentially ignored

    • @bakters
      @bakters Месяц назад +26

      Isn't it interesting, that with all the crisis, the readily available core samples were not examined for all this time?

    • @johnnesbit2371
      @johnnesbit2371 29 дней назад +12

      No, they weren't ignored. What is ignored, I would say, is the fact that there is a limit to the number of Acts--Scientific or otherwise--that you can put on the stage all at once and have them all partake of conscious acceptance.

    • @spacelemur7955
      @spacelemur7955 29 дней назад +14

      I have an MA in Geography, and I have never had the notion that the Greenland Ice Cap didn't periodically disappear. The sea level and climate proxy data indicate that such a biome would be on Greenland during the warm periods.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 29 дней назад +4

      Ignored sounds too intentional. I usually use the phrase "slipped through the cracks". Lots of discoveries slipped through the tracks.

    • @TheRflynn
      @TheRflynn 29 дней назад +9

      I think that is the data shown at 2:18. The ice cores were collected between ‘71 and ‘78. Its not just this sort of data that is collected at one date and made sense of decades later. I was looking at an Irving Finkel (Curator, British Museum) video about how part of a clay tablet was reassembled decades after it had been put in the museum. They just didn’t have the resources to do the analysis when the material first came in.

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 Месяц назад +107

    Contrary to popular belief, not all of Greenland is ice. There's even a forrest in the Qinngua Valley. Most of it ice to be sure, but the south is a little less harsh. There are even farms.

    • @Gelatinocyte2
      @Gelatinocyte2 Месяц назад +1

      Source

    • @bigpicturethinking5620
      @bigpicturethinking5620 Месяц назад

      @@Gelatinocyte2a basic internet search.

    • @twinleaf3076
      @twinleaf3076 Месяц назад

      ​@@Gelatinocyte2bro, just go on Google maps or something

    • @jimmy_kirk
      @jimmy_kirk Месяц назад +21

      @@Gelatinocyte2 Qinngua Valley

    • @KOZMOuvBORG
      @KOZMOuvBORG Месяц назад

      There was 50 fires reported in Greenland in 2017

  • @randolphh8005
    @randolphh8005 18 дней назад +23

    We were recently in Nuuk Greenland and visited a museum of local culture, including the Inuit cultures. Even their museum, clearly showed major temperature changes over even some of the last 3000 years, with receding ice and warming leading to more habitable conditions along the coast.

  • @prototropo
    @prototropo 28 дней назад +52

    This just in: Apart from the serious research he invests in these video presentations, and the clear-eyed, level-headed narration of the eminently trustworthy details, Anton has been positively identified as the most endearing and lovable RUclipsr of the entire Anthropocene.

    • @DocSanders
      @DocSanders 24 дня назад +2

      Brova for your, "...the clear-eyed, level-headed narration." I wish we had more folks like you who understood the difference, very much appreciated.

    • @tuberroot1112
      @tuberroot1112 19 дней назад +2

      " eminently trustworthy details" like his 27mm/y of seal level rise? I'm sure you will repeating that to everyone you know now along with your BS about the "Anthropocene". The vid is interesting but Anton knows nothing about climate and goofs up every time he tries mentioning the subject.

    • @Hettie420-t2r
      @Hettie420-t2r 18 дней назад +3

      Agreed ❤️💙

    • @Patto2276
      @Patto2276 4 дня назад +2

      @@tuberroot1112 I thought he said, "contributes", as in 'it would result in that level of sea rise if other factors didn't negate it.' I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

    • @Gwen-x6d
      @Gwen-x6d 2 дня назад

      Isn't he a professional Mathematician ???

  • @andrewbrady3139
    @andrewbrady3139 Месяц назад +144

    Anton, you are the most informative RUclipsr in history. I appreciate everything you do!!! Thanks for your hard work!!!

    • @Enkaptaton
      @Enkaptaton Месяц назад +3

      He may be the most informative RUclipsr that you know. And he is very informative. Do not confuse your knowledge with all the RUclips History

    • @theothertonydutch
      @theothertonydutch 28 дней назад

      Thank you for your compliment!
      My name is also Anton.

    • @tuberroot1112
      @tuberroot1112 19 дней назад +1

      Sadly some of his "information" is total BS. Ocean levels have NOT been rising by 27mm/y, so clearly Greenland cannot be contributing 27mm/y . He clearly knows nothing about this subjet and does not take care to correctly tell us what he read.

    • @notduhpopo
      @notduhpopo 8 дней назад +1

      Is this antons mom?

    • @andodrozdowski3832
      @andodrozdowski3832 5 дней назад +1

      @@tuberroot1112I agree that the ocean levels he is talking about are a far stretch

  • @tikaanipippin
    @tikaanipippin Месяц назад +129

    Greenland had a settled community and bishops From 1124 until 1378, when it was impossible to maintain because of increasing cold. It had been warmer then than today. Hoping that it might again become habitable, there were titular bishops until 1500.

    • @rogerclaiborne6815
      @rogerclaiborne6815 Месяц назад +21

      All their farts and wood burning made it colder, but it's supposed to do the opposite according to man made climate change experts, LOL.

    • @handleyourface
      @handleyourface Месяц назад +4

      ​@rogerclaiborne6815 Aoc would ❤ you for that comment 🤣

    • @johnmcglynn4102
      @johnmcglynn4102 Месяц назад +22

      That period roughly aligns with the Medieval Warming Period, no?

    • @tommy-er6hh
      @tommy-er6hh Месяц назад +7

      @@johnmcglynn4102 yep.

    • @bathyalgames
      @bathyalgames 29 дней назад +23

      During this time they had also wine in Scandinavia, which is only recently possible. The little ice age from 1450-1850 had not a lower temperature of max 0.6 K or C, but rather a lower temperature of max 2-3 K or C. Because the 0.6 K or C would not cause the end of the Greenland community and neither the end of vines cultivation in Scandinavia.
      The problem is that they fudge the data to present the Medieval Warm Periode as much lower than our current times and they do the same with the 1930s-40s warm years and call it data adjustment. Therefore always search for the raw data concerning the temperature.

  • @solipsist3949
    @solipsist3949 29 дней назад +14

    I like Anton's subtle way of conveying an appropriate sense of wonder at the possible implications of the discoveries, without departing from his always precise, understated narrative style.

  • @greentea7180
    @greentea7180 Месяц назад +98

    That's pretty cool, I had an oceanography teacher in college (~15 years ago) talk about shifting oceanic currents and how we had ice cores from greenland showing it used to be much warmer, as well as antarctica, I suppose these were the cores they were talking about. They were spitballing that oceanic currents are responsible for for the building and subsequent melting of ice sheets, as fresh water and salt water levels change in the ocean it also changes how heat is distributed around the planet. Basically the ice melts and causes a massive influx of fresh water, which causes colder salty water to sink which increases surface temperatures, then the fresh water is shut off which causes the colder salt water to mix with the upper layers of the ocean causing the planet to cool down and reform the ice sheets. Of course none of this was put on a test, or taught to us as fact, they were just very enthusiastic and trying to get us to look at the ocean as part of the bigger picture. They also talked about how our current continental layout is possibly why we have ice ages, as the collisions of North and South America, as well as Europe and Africa dramatically changed the flow of ocean currents. They were one of my favorite teachers lol.

    • @cherylmarcuri5506
      @cherylmarcuri5506 Месяц назад +3

      An excellent reply!!

    • @Steel0079
      @Steel0079 Месяц назад +5

      You didn't know their gender?

    • @JELazarus
      @JELazarus Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Steel0079 Nah, this was 15 years ago. Different times. I'm thinking conjoined twins. . .

    • @jaxdragon1723
      @jaxdragon1723 Месяц назад

      @@JELazarus 🤬

    • @helenamcginty4920
      @helenamcginty4920 Месяц назад +3

      I was around in the 1960s when plate techtonics waz still being questioned. Our geography teacher was a very enthusiastic proponent. I never knew till recently that it wasnt accepted as fact at that time.
      Africa is still moving north into Europe. India is also moving north into Asia. Hence the Hymalayas.

  • @Nangleator22
    @Nangleator22 Месяц назад +35

    John Carpenter's The Thing should be required viewing for this type of science.

    • @edwardmacgregor1233
      @edwardmacgregor1233 29 дней назад +2

      And Smilla’s Sense of Snow

    • @MarcHof-pt5ey
      @MarcHof-pt5ey 27 дней назад +2

      And The Blob!

    • @scomo532
      @scomo532 19 дней назад +1

      The Thing (starring Janes Arnes as the Thing) is a great flick

    • @ohsweetmystery
      @ohsweetmystery 17 дней назад

      You think we need UFO researchers looking for buried alien ships up there?

    • @Nangleator22
      @Nangleator22 17 дней назад

      @@ohsweetmystery No, we just need them NOT unearthing civilization-ending plagues.

  • @jaymehatfield9540
    @jaymehatfield9540 9 дней назад +4

    Subscribed. Excellent presentation. You speak English as a second language better than most Americans.

  • @the80hdgaming
    @the80hdgaming Месяц назад +67

    Ahhhhh... My daily fix of Anton videos... 😂😂

    • @gaypigeon5365
      @gaypigeon5365 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah this is making the itch go away

  • @jimcurtis9052
    @jimcurtis9052 Месяц назад +30

    Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🫡🙂

  • @tdpay9015
    @tdpay9015 Месяц назад +90

    Anton, scientists have known since the mid-1980s that the high arctic used to be ice free and supported abundant life. A forest of tall trees flourished on Canada's Axel Heiberg Island over 40 million years ago during the Eocene epoch. The trees reached up to 35 m (115 ft) in height, and some may have grown for 500 to 1,000 years. At the time, the polar climate was warm, but the winters were still continuously dark for three months.

    • @tommyrotton9468
      @tommyrotton9468 Месяц назад +11

      walking with dinosaurs even did an episode of dinos living there

    • @steventhompson399
      @steventhompson399 Месяц назад +7

      Yeah I heard in cretaceous paleocene eocene it was much warmer on earth in general with forests and crocodiles near the arctic and such, but I don't remember how much warmer it must have been to be like that

    • @justinmarkwilliams
      @justinmarkwilliams Месяц назад +22

      same with antarctic, used to be a tropical rain forest. Its almost like we currently in an ice age... oh right we are... climate change is normal ;)

    • @XGD5layer
      @XGD5layer Месяц назад +10

      ​@@steventhompson399 the average was 8-12°C warmer than the 1961-1990 average. 40 Ma about the same as it was the last heatwave of the Eoscene. The Eoscene started out as hot as 12-15°C hotter

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Месяц назад +9

      @@XGD5layer Damn those Flintstones and their global warming dinosaur-powered civilization!

  • @jimsterlingina_mankini149
    @jimsterlingina_mankini149 Месяц назад +87

    Anton: Greenland might become habitable....
    Me: (Begins checking real estate prices)
    Anton:... in the next thousand years.
    Me: aww

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Месяц назад +4

      Me, "Excellent. I'll be waiting." Alondro, the IMMORTAL!!! :O

    • @dguy321
      @dguy321 Месяц назад +7

      There are cities with airports on Greenland.
      It can become MORE habitable, but it's already habitable given that people live there.
      Antarctica remains the least populated place on earth.

    • @secondchance6603
      @secondchance6603 Месяц назад +5

      Eric the Red: "I'm going to call it Greenland to attract more settlers."
      Today we'd call that clickbait lol.

    • @bencoad8492
      @bencoad8492 29 дней назад

      well maybe by 2040 or so, if we are going off our magnetic field/poles and what they are doing...

    • @GeoMeridium
      @GeoMeridium 29 дней назад +2

      In the southern towns, winters are similar to Minnesota's, but the summers only average in the 50s.

  • @albertvanlingen7590
    @albertvanlingen7590 16 дней назад +20

    Politics ruined science

  • @RogerS1978
    @RogerS1978 29 дней назад +15

    Anyone who read Roman history has heard the stories that the cooling is what led to the fall of the empire with the cooling weather causing the migration of tribes from increasingly inhospitable areas.

    • @Milosz_Ostrow
      @Milosz_Ostrow 28 дней назад +5

      A few decades ago tree trunks emerged from ice high above the present-day timberline in the Alps. Radiocarbon dating showed them to be around 2,000 years old. When Hannibal attacked Rome from the north with his elephants by crossing the Alps, his armies did not need to contend with snowfields.

    • @selfloveisthekey
      @selfloveisthekey 26 дней назад +4

      And all this took place without cars, planes and factories. Does that mean that we live on a planet that has natural temperature fluctuations not caused by humans? I'm shocked! 😱 😂😂

    • @mpetersen6
      @mpetersen6 26 дней назад

      ​@@selfloveisthekey
      What is the cause of the fluctuations. The only reasonable explanation l can think of is cyclical change in Solar output.

    • @selfloveisthekey
      @selfloveisthekey 26 дней назад +2

      @@mpetersen6 I don't know what the causes are, but it really doesn't sound like we're causing it.

    • @cmt6997
      @cmt6997 2 дня назад

      @@mpetersen6tectonic/volcanic/geological activity, changes in currents, atmospheric events, etc.
      A lot of the processes that dictate our climate are sensitive to perturbation, which has occurred frequently (every few centuries) since the dawn of time. Do not trust anyone who pretends they’re a new phenomenon and peddles hysteria.

  • @MyraSeavy
    @MyraSeavy Месяц назад +22

    Thanks Anton! 😊❤

  • @dj-kq4fz
    @dj-kq4fz Месяц назад +18

    Greenland deserves continentlet status! Sounds better than continentoid I think.

    • @tealkerberus748
      @tealkerberus748 2 дня назад

      But it's not on its own continental plate. It's the same as the British Isles being part of the Eurasian continental plate - it's just an offshore island.

  • @spacelemur7955
    @spacelemur7955 29 дней назад +33

    I was on Greenland over a decade ago, and on the way up to the ice cap, the visible evidence of massive ice loss was impossible to not see. The lateral moraines were relatively fresh, but towered over what was left of the glacier in the coming down off the slope. There was series of small end moraines all the way up to the glacier's face. The maps of the fjords showed how the glaciers have been in retreat for many decades. We met some Canadian geologists trying to identify minable mineral deposits, and although they didn't want to say the phrase climate change, they were adamant is saying that the whole arctic was rapidly changing, _for some reason._
    Back nearer home, all along the Norwegian-Swedish border, the alpine biomes are changing just as radically. The tree line has ascended tens of meters, new animal and plant species are invading, unseasonable springtime warm spells are messing up plant blooming, and thus faunal food chains. Photos taking over 100 years ago to show the alpine nature, have had modern photographers return to the same spots and take new photos. What before was tundra is now often scrub meadow. And what was meadow now a young forest.

    • @danielevans3932
      @danielevans3932 29 дней назад +2

      It would be pretty cool to see Greenland be the next UK. Climate-wise.

    • @Terran.Marine.2
      @Terran.Marine.2 28 дней назад +1

      Is more arable land better, though?

    • @christopherbrooks4426
      @christopherbrooks4426 28 дней назад +1

      You're describing climate change

    • @spacelemur7955
      @spacelemur7955 28 дней назад

      @@christopherbrooks4426 Of course!😉

    • @MrBottlecapBill
      @MrBottlecapBill 28 дней назад +9

      @@christopherbrooks4426 A warm world has been shown historically to be FULL of life. Cold worlds are dead.

  • @derekturner3272
    @derekturner3272 Месяц назад +6

    We're sure it's melting now becuase of us... But we have no idea why it's melted many times before humans were here. Sounds about right.

    • @wirelessone2986
      @wirelessone2986 3 часа назад

      With no mammals the earth would still go through climate change

  • @Gumbatron01
    @Gumbatron01 Месяц назад +27

    I would think that during certain periods of the Milankovitch cycle, it would be possible for Greenland to be ice free. If the tilt away from the solar plane of Earths rotation was high, and the precession and eccentricity brought the Northern hemisphere Winter during a period where Earth was closer to the Sun, then it could be possible for the climate of Greenland to be mild enough that ice would not accumulate. During this time, however, it would be likely that conditions in Antarctica would be significantly colder, leading to much more sea ice there, so the effects of the melting of the Greenland ice sheet would be largely offset. If this were the case though, it would imply an ice free, or at least partially ice free Greenland much more frequently and more recently than currently accepted, given (current) the major period of the Milankovitch cycle of 100k years, though you d need to do some calculations to determine the period of conditions favorable to low/no ice on Greenland. Given that it requires the confluence of various factors with different frequencies, this occurrence may be seemingly irregular and could be absent for extended periods.
    Just as the Arctic used to be ice free and support much more plant life than it currently does, so too Antarctica used to be ice free, even to the extent of supporting rainforest type habitats. The current Ice Age we find ourselves in is not how things have always been, it's not necessarily how the Earth "should" be, and why some people seem to think that the climate of the mid 18th century (the end of the Little Ice Age) is some supposed ideal to aim for is bizarre to me.

    • @donaldcarey114
      @donaldcarey114 Месяц назад +6

      Antarctica was not always at the South pole, it has drifted thousands of miles.

    • @tonyduncan9852
      @tonyduncan9852 29 дней назад

      Tectonic upthrust absorbs atmospheric CO2 so well that atm CO2 reduction over time is a tectonic readout, though one has to consider the carboniferous (Life) as well. AI will quantify all effects, er, soon.

    • @CheekyMonkey1776
      @CheekyMonkey1776 27 дней назад +3

      THANK YOU!!!
      The new green deal crowd ignores the fact that we are recovering from an ice age and that the Earth has been much warmer than it is now.
      With out checking any data I’m going to make a supposition…. The average temperature of the Earth over time is much warmer than now. Of course this average temperature is dependent on how far back in time I go. Thus allowing me to skew the average temperature anyway I want.
      Hmmmmm.. that approach should sound familiar to the new green deal folks.

    • @CheekyMonkey1776
      @CheekyMonkey1776 27 дней назад +2

      @@donaldcarey114
      Also wind patterns and currents have certainly changed over time as well. When you consider that without the Gulf Stream Scotland and most of the UK would be ice covered….I submit an ice free Antarctica is possible without needing to drift too far..if at all.
      Although the 2,000 miles would help a lot.

    • @DrSmooth2000
      @DrSmooth2000 27 дней назад +1

      ​@@CheekyMonkey1776 70% of Pharenzoic (usable atmosphere) has had at least one pole free of ice cap

  • @rochilla_the_killa7388
    @rochilla_the_killa7388 Месяц назад +9

    Thank you Anton for a bit of peace of mind in this crazy world 😇🙏may God bless you good sir 🫡

    • @JZsBFF
      @JZsBFF Месяц назад

      Isn't it god who created this mess in the first place?

    • @rochilla_the_killa7388
      @rochilla_the_killa7388 29 дней назад

      @@JZsBFF hey hater may God bless you 😇🙏❤️

  • @spiralsun1
    @spiralsun1 Месяц назад +8

    Anton is a super talented hero of epic proportions 😊❤

  • @MatthewCauldwell
    @MatthewCauldwell Месяц назад +7

    I love your channel Anton, keep up the amazing work 👏👏👏👏

  • @alexandertelehin3425
    @alexandertelehin3425 День назад

    That you for a well researched presentation on the possible History of Green Land and what existed on the soil surfaces where all of these deep holes were drilled through the very thick Ice cover on this Island.

  • @dl5244
    @dl5244 Месяц назад +21

    on July 15 1942, two American WW2 B-17 bomber planes and six P-38 fighters made an emergency landing on the Greenland glacier.
    They were found and partially recovered in 1992 under 300 to 350 feet of ice.
    That's an average ice build-up of over 6 feet per year.
    Those lines in the ice cores are from individual storms, not annual deposits.

    • @Gelatinocyte2
      @Gelatinocyte2 Месяц назад +1

      If there's only one storm *per year,* that literally makes it *annual.* Annual = yearly. That's where "anniversary" got its name, and its counted in years.

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd Месяц назад +4

      @@Gelatinocyte2 What part of the world do you live in where you only get one storm a year?

    • @Gelatinocyte2
      @Gelatinocyte2 Месяц назад

      @@WaterShowsProd I mean think about it: do you really get 6 feet of snow per storm and they all stay 6 feet over time, or do they melt and/or compress and end up into a 6 feet of layer on average a year?

    • @WaterShowsProd
      @WaterShowsProd Месяц назад +6

      @@Gelatinocyte2 The original post said it was 6 feet per year. It was you who suggested only one storm per year which would mean that annual storm would dump 6 feet of ice. The original post was saying that the stratification is formed by multiple individual storms within a year, totalling 6 feet by the end of one year.

    • @Gelatinocyte2
      @Gelatinocyte2 Месяц назад +2

      @@WaterShowsProd Oh. I see, I misinterpreted their comment.

  • @user-md9yv7jx2c
    @user-md9yv7jx2c Месяц назад +26

    Greenland was much warmer when the Vikings settled it according to Jared Diamond.

    • @thesjkexperience
      @thesjkexperience 29 дней назад +1

      It may have overlapped with the medieval warm period. When it stopped it became really difficult 😢

    • @davidweihe6052
      @davidweihe6052 28 дней назад +1

      Much is a bit of an overstatement. It was warm enough to grow grass or bushes, not enough to grow trees :-)
      And, of course, Jared Diamond is reporting other people’s results.

    • @thesjkexperience
      @thesjkexperience 28 дней назад

      @@davidweihe6052 It was under one degree warmer at most, and it was it wasn’t world wide. Don’t know Jared.

    • @josiasguiomar2504
      @josiasguiomar2504 23 дня назад +1

      Yes, they were burning co2 fossil fuels in drakkars. Greta´s ancestors dared 😂

    • @tboned70
      @tboned70 5 дней назад

      The Native Americans were there before and are still there,.........

  • @gianpaulgraziosi6171
    @gianpaulgraziosi6171 29 дней назад +5

    11:08 never gets old

  • @Broken_robot1986
    @Broken_robot1986 Месяц назад +3

    Wow, absolutely amazing! Love you Anton!

  • @richb2229
    @richb2229 Месяц назад +4

    So Greenland was warmer many times in the past…and climate significantly changed (in the northern hemisphere), over the last 100,000 years
    How catastrophic, or not.

  • @alanmcmillan6969
    @alanmcmillan6969 6 дней назад

    Thank you for this fascinating look at Greenland, and its impact on the views thought of before.

  • @countofdownable
    @countofdownable Месяц назад +14

    I've watched too many science fiction and horror movies/TV. Be careful about what you dig up from the ice.

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Месяц назад

      You go digging into the ice... and find ALONDRO!!! "Yo! Wuzzzzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup!!" YOU FOOL, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE??!!! ;D

  • @JonnyHolms
    @JonnyHolms 29 дней назад +1

    Anton I just wanted to say Thank you because I have learned so much from you over the years 😊

  • @slartybarfastb3648
    @slartybarfastb3648 Месяц назад +61

    According to the graphic shown, the oldest ice would not be at the center of the sheet, but at the extreme edges.
    As the center presses down, the oldest ice is pressed outward before eventually calving into the ocean.
    *In case no one noticed, these records which show extreme climate fluctuations date back to before humans had invented internal combustion engines, factories, plastic, or even bronze. This is the planet as it is: ever changing.

    • @AnonymousAnarchist2
      @AnonymousAnarchist2 Месяц назад

      The climate is ever changing
      No s### shurlock.
      However I know for a fact Climatologists are UNDER estimating the effects of human CO2 to our current climate.
      During a period we should be COOLING DOWN. And thats just one element.

    • @everettputerbaugh3996
      @everettputerbaugh3996 Месяц назад +10

      Yes. But let us not hurry it along, I like my house and food supply...

    • @nilo70
      @nilo70 Месяц назад +6

      @@everettputerbaugh3996
      I agree . Random violence in Earths Life-support system for short term gains is greed at its worst.

    • @brianmerz6070
      @brianmerz6070 Месяц назад +2

      @@slartybarfastb3648 You are speaking my language.

    • @slartybarfastb3648
      @slartybarfastb3648 Месяц назад +6

      @@nilo70 Will you drive to work on Monday?

  • @BrianFedirko
    @BrianFedirko 29 дней назад +2

    Anton, I really love these on-planet discoveries. Give us more!!! Gr8! Peace ☮💜Love

  • @user-cz1lt5hm7i
    @user-cz1lt5hm7i Месяц назад +5

    Fascinating -- thanks Anton

  • @AdventurePhotoShoots
    @AdventurePhotoShoots 14 дней назад

    Good stuff. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your channel

  • @Martiandawn
    @Martiandawn Месяц назад +7

    Anton kept referring to ice cores and showing images of ice cores, which is a bit misleading. The plant and insect material is actually in sediment (soil) at the bottom of the ice cores. To be fair, Anton did mention "till" at least twice - that is a term for sediment left behind by glaciers. I imagine it would be hard to find stock photos for the video to illustrate the portion of the ice cores the researchers were looking at.

  • @leeg6421
    @leeg6421 2 дня назад

    This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @TheYuccaPlant
    @TheYuccaPlant Месяц назад +5

    9:29 Oh no my worst nightmare... the proposed Istanbul Canal!! Never expected you here...

  • @davidmcfadden1763
    @davidmcfadden1763 29 дней назад +2

    The most fascinating thing to me about Greenland are the ice core temperature proxies

  • @farwander3722
    @farwander3722 Месяц назад +6

    You rock, Anton!

  • @fleuryjean-francois8704
    @fleuryjean-francois8704 28 дней назад +1

    To answer your question how and why Greenland was deglaciated for the most part during several phases of Pleistocene, you can check this artlcle : Irvali, Nil et al. PNAS 2020, 117, 190 ou doi 10.1073/pnas.1911902116. The authors explain that, just for the last 450 ky, during MIS (Marine Isotopic Stage) 5e, MIS 7e, MIS 9e and MIS 11c, the temperatures of sea surface near south Greenland were beyond the sea surface temperature required to induce a total or a partial collapse of the southern Greenland Ice-Sheet.

  • @12bigredd
    @12bigredd Месяц назад +8

    no one bothered to check?? why??? the reason is rather petty.... no one was allowed to find new things to rule changing unless new funding required. or the funders did not want the direction changed... ie clovis first and the ice brdbe to populate america just the 2 most famous... i

    • @kenji214245
      @kenji214245 27 дней назад +2

      almost like he mentioned a pretty big international diplomatic scandal of the US people drilling not asking for permission to be there and the Danish pretty much saying get out or get arrested. So the US people left at speed.

  • @jamesg2382
    @jamesg2382 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you Anton. Always very well considered videos

  • @mybirds2525
    @mybirds2525 Месяц назад +28

    Those are NOT annual layers. Those are just storm layers. Greenland can get 6 feet of snow in a single night. Each such storm creates a layer and there are typically close to 20 to 30 a year. Data from 1942 to 1992 shows that the ice was accumulating at 5.5 feet a year. That makes the entire sheet less than 2000 years old! Yes all 9,600 feet of it!

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 Месяц назад +3

      Some part are; others, aren't.

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 Месяц назад +18

      What about compression of the layers? Pretty sure that 6 feet of snow when buried under 1000 feet is no longer 6 feet thick.

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@sirrathersplendid48256 feet in a night bunches of nights compressed

    • @patrickday4206
      @patrickday4206 Месяц назад +1

      There would have been melt offs at certain points

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Месяц назад

      In any case, it means the global climate was VASTLY warmer LONG before human civilization was very advanced. How did it get so warm? How did it then cool off so much? NO ONE HAS ANY EXPLANATION!!!
      So, fear-mongering about 'climate change' when we see THE CLIMATE RADICALLY CHANGES ALL BY ITSELF WITH HIGH FREQUENCY, is deliberately fraudulent MISINFORMATION at this point. Hey, Walz? Gonna arrest the ones spreading that, ya fake soldier?

  • @joanhyde1745
    @joanhyde1745 12 дней назад

    Always enjoy joining other wonderful people to learn new data. Thank you, Anton.

  • @metagen77
    @metagen77 Месяц назад +5

    Wonderful Anton

  • @Garwfechan-ry5lk
    @Garwfechan-ry5lk 2 дня назад

    Extremely well done and Presented.

  • @BluhmGardens
    @BluhmGardens Месяц назад +15

    Yeah, it's called the "Medieval Warm Period", and it's been well-known for a long time. Yes, temps WERE warmer than currently, but not as warm as during the previous Roman and Minoan Warm Periods. We're actually on our 7th or 8th warm period like this since the beginning of the Holocene, but modern "climatologists" and eco-activists refuse to acknowledge the actual science of climate change.
    The entire Viking Age happened within the Medieval Warm Period, because the pack-ice in the entire northern Atlantic Ocean broke up and melted enough to allow for the Norse to sail south. It ended, along with their Newfoundland and Greenland colonies, when the pack-ice grew back at the end of the Medieval Warm Period. Evidence of burnt barley has been found at Viking settlements in southern Greenland, proven to have been grown there in the area. Barley can only tolerate growing in Hardiness Zones 3-8, meaning the climate in southern Greenland (and their Newfoundland colonies) then was as around the same as the climate in southern Canada today.
    In North America it's called the Late Woodland Period, and is when the last of the 3 Mound-building culture (Mississippian Culture) thrived in the Eastern half of the US. The two prior Mound-building culture also happened during the two prior global warming periods, the Adena Culture (Minoan Warm Period, Early Woodland Period), and the Hopewell Culture (Roman Warm Period, Middle Woodland Period).

    • @tealkerberus748
      @tealkerberus748 2 дня назад

      Kind of concerning that these tiny local fluctuations in temperature made such a big difference to what could be grown where, and meanwhile we're setting up for a global shift that is so much bigger than those.

    • @BluhmGardens
      @BluhmGardens 2 дня назад

      @@tealkerberus748 and that is how I know you have not studying paleoclimatology at all.... Stop listening to politicians opinion-piece "journalists", and learn how to read a simple graph...
      Reality is that the ice core data has been clear for decades. We've only been out of the last Cold Period (The Little Ice Age) for less 200 years. Since the mid 1800's when ALL modern climatology began recording data.
      The Medieval Warm Period lasted around 600-700 years, the Roman Warm period around 300 years, and the Minoan around the same.
      But the last of the two Holocene Climatic Optimum Periods lasted a 1000 years, and the first one lasted 2000 years. and in both of those the global temp was WAY hotter than today. And human societies not only existed during all of those, it thrived and spread across the globe.
      Seriously, move out of the city and go see what nature is. The only places in this world that are over-populated are big metropolitan areas. There's whole world out there were you can get lost and not see another human for weeks.

    • @BluhmGardens
      @BluhmGardens 2 дня назад

      @@tealkerberus748 Greenland has been green for 3000 of the past 4300 years. and only tundra for around 1300 of the past 4300 years. Stop listening to dumb people who don't know what they are talking about.

  • @kennethtate3065
    @kennethtate3065 25 дней назад

    Best channel on RUclips! Keep up the good work. Professional, informative, well spoken, you couldn’t ask for a better example. Thank you Anton for putting all this information into a video and explaining it all to the best of our knowledge in a way we can all understand. Thank you

  • @jeffsoyk6994
    @jeffsoyk6994 Месяц назад +3

    Thank You Sir

  • @nerolsalguod4649
    @nerolsalguod4649 23 дня назад +1

    Many ancient maps show this island as green and fully inhabited.
    Good vid.

    • @tealkerberus748
      @tealkerberus748 2 дня назад

      There are also many ancient maps that show Australia being contiguous with Antarctica. Speaking as a person who has driven from Melbourne to Perth, I can assure you those maps are very wrong.

  • @TheHappyhorus
    @TheHappyhorus Месяц назад +11

    It’s interesting to think that the climate has been much more unbalanced and has fluctuated more times than classical teachings. It would explain us a lot more easily.

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Месяц назад

      Back in the 90's, we WERE taught that climate regularly shifted radically from warm to cold. But then, a certain political agenda took control of education.... and taught LIES.

  • @vgrof2315
    @vgrof2315 10 часов назад

    Thank you, Anton. 😊😊😊😊

  • @wowzande
    @wowzande Месяц назад +3

    This video rocked!!!

  • @HermitCrone
    @HermitCrone 27 дней назад

    Amazing! Thank you, Anton, for revealing some of the most astounding discoveries recently!

  • @napoleonfeanor
    @napoleonfeanor Месяц назад +23

    Greenland certainly had a period where the Norse could settle at small strips of green land. Remains of them lived their much longer but integrated with Eskimo peoples and eventually mixed (just like Iceland has small traces of Eakimo DNA)

  • @jimanderson4981
    @jimanderson4981 Месяц назад +2

    Another down to earth video 👍

  • @Sylvan_dB
    @Sylvan_dB Месяц назад +166

    Anybody that thinks any ice anywhere on this planet is "permanent" is simply not paying attention. The only question about ice is how long it has been there. Pretty much none of it pre-dates the current ice age.

    • @Astuga
      @Astuga Месяц назад +63

      Most people don't realize, that we live in an interglacial period of a current ice age.
      Overlapping with many oscillating short time warm and cold phases.

    • @kalrandom7387
      @kalrandom7387 Месяц назад +26

      Thank God they were able to recover and make sure and blame it on us humans. That data almost messed up our models.

    • @christow7989
      @christow7989 Месяц назад +2

      I mean sure, except for what is buried at the bottom layers

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 Месяц назад +14

      ​@@kalrandom7387 more food for thought on that. The center of Greenland is a bowl, well below the sea level. Yet without the ice there sea levels didn't raise enough to make it an atoll. Conditions warm enough to melt off Greenland would be enough to melt off *most* of the world's ice.
      That being the case how'd the middle stay dry enough to become a tundra

    • @GroundZ3R0Gamer
      @GroundZ3R0Gamer Месяц назад +5

      Could be from younger Dryas meteor impacts

  • @Arthagnou
    @Arthagnou День назад

    The Vikings actually farmed the land for a couple of hundred years on Greenland. The world was warmer briefly in the medieval period. So warm that the UK used to grow grapes for wine.

  • @limolnar
    @limolnar Месяц назад +5

    The 12 minute videos are PERFECT! Thank you for growing and adjusting over the years, Anton. Blessings, success and prosperity to you!
    P.S. Toronto misses you!

  • @grahambell4298
    @grahambell4298 28 дней назад +1

    Another excellently presented and informative video.

  • @pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591
    @pinchopaxtonsgreatestminds9591 Месяц назад +4

    This is weird, because I've read loads of times that Greenland used to be green... Mandela Effect?

    • @friendlyone2706
      @friendlyone2706 Месяц назад +7

      It was greener when first settled, just like Iceland, just like all Europe was once warmer on average during the Medieval optimum -- - called optimum because life was better then, at least 3 degrees warmer on average -- the same temperatures Gore wanted us to fear.

    • @kennethnystrom593
      @kennethnystrom593 Месяц назад +3

      @@friendlyone2706 Hush now, you make the climate hysterics look bad.

    • @alphared4655
      @alphared4655 Месяц назад +2

      Central of Iceland may have not been ice free at the time, but there was much more ice free land towards the coast.

  • @brianphillips1864
    @brianphillips1864 29 дней назад

    Thank you for keeping us informed as always.

  • @pestypig
    @pestypig Месяц назад +7

    it be cool to compare the annual layers and the solar cycles

  • @holly50575
    @holly50575 18 дней назад

    Interesting place to study! Thank you.

  • @osmosisjones4912
    @osmosisjones4912 Месяц назад +278

    The Vikings invented false advertising

  • @ltdees2362
    @ltdees2362 18 часов назад

    Fascinating, thank you!! I live on St Simons Island Georgia which is just a few feet above sea level. So if it will be a few thousand years before the ice shelf melts on Greenland I'm pretty safe 🤣

  • @ulfhedtyrsson
    @ulfhedtyrsson Месяц назад +3

    I was always told that Eric had called Iceland that to keep people away despite it being green. And called Greenland that to have people go there instead, despite it being ice.
    Or something like that.

    • @Unknown17
      @Unknown17 28 дней назад +1

      The world's first real estate developer?

  • @morenofranco9235
    @morenofranco9235 16 дней назад

    Thanks for a great presentation, Anton. It is good to know that researchers have collected ice samples they have not even studies. Similar to the British Museums archeology department where one can do a study of all the ancient relics that have been stored - but never studied. (And sometimes poorly labelled)

  • @LecherousLizard
    @LecherousLizard Месяц назад +4

    Greenland wasn't covered in ice for as long as scientists thought?
    I'm shocked. Shocked!
    Well, not that shocked.

  • @admiralbenbow5083
    @admiralbenbow5083 2 дня назад

    I like the `Gordon Brown smile` at the end.

  • @brynduffy
    @brynduffy Месяц назад +3

    What you're looking at, Anton, is when Greenland was located at the equator. There is a 90° pole shift every 12,000 years.
    So a nice sheet that thick can pack up over less than a thousand years.

    • @philrobinson5990
      @philrobinson5990 Месяц назад

      It's suprising to see how many things confirm the 12000 year disaster cycle , I stumbled upon tsunami data for Australia which confirms very large tsunami throughout history. The location of the evidence is what i would predict for an initial inertial wave and then a washback wave soon after . Looking for safe zones is complicated when trying to predict the direction of the washback on a moving planet.

    • @robo5013
      @robo5013 Месяц назад +3

      That's BS. The Earth's axis tilts between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees. It has never titled sideways at 90 degrees.

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover Месяц назад

      @@robo5013 Nobody talked about the axis, but about the crust above the low velocity zone!

    • @robo5013
      @robo5013 29 дней назад

      @@ThePowerLover The OP literally says 90 degree POLE shift, nothing about the crust. The plates don't move that fast. They move on average about half an inch per year. Greenland is precisely where it was 12,000 years ago give or take 500 feet. That would be nowhere near the 5000 MILES, or 26,400,000 feet, it would have to have moved to get from the equator to where it is now. I bet you guys believe Aliens built the Pyramids, too.

    • @Unknown17
      @Unknown17 28 дней назад +1

      Sheer ignorance

  • @JacovanRensburg
    @JacovanRensburg День назад +1

    And in the meantime Antartic Icecap is growing at a massive rate

  • @kaarlimakela3413
    @kaarlimakela3413 Месяц назад +6

    So, this ice core drilling began in the 60s ...
    I recall several movies based on "The Thing" horror tale. Some muderous thing that was disturbed by the drilling for whatever ... it escapes its ice prison, imitates people, and then it's unaliving time. Superscary!
    A warning to humans not to tinker in so cavalier a manner with nature's mysteries! 😉

    • @Alondro77
      @Alondro77 Месяц назад +2

      That was all based on the 1938 novella "Who Goes There?", and the alien there was also telepathic. Really, that would have F'd everyone, cuz an alien that could look just like anyone AND read everybody's mind would be UNSTOPPABLE. Basically a shape-shifting Professor X. So that's why the film version dropped that aspect, to at least give humanity a chance.

    • @cesiumalloy
      @cesiumalloy Месяц назад +1

      I am pretty sure that the GISP crew had flame throwers and shotguns, so we are all safe.

  • @dianespears6057
    @dianespears6057 26 дней назад

    I always like your topics. Thank you for your time and work.

  • @danoneill2846
    @danoneill2846 Месяц назад +3

    Carolina Bays

    • @gravitonthongs1363
      @gravitonthongs1363 Месяц назад

      ….are deflation hollows formed over a 100k year period, and have nothing to do with Greenland.

  • @sadamp1
    @sadamp1 21 день назад

    Amazing content. Thank you.

  • @WatZ-In-Ur-Head
    @WatZ-In-Ur-Head Месяц назад +5

    We've been lied to about everything.
    We've been following "the Science Fiction"

    • @Ge1Ri4
      @Ge1Ri4 Месяц назад

      Speak for yourself. Some of us are able to separate the wheat from the chaff, unlike the majority of the people that say all scientists are scammers.

  • @JZsBFF
    @JZsBFF Месяц назад +1

    This brings to mind the Mitchell & Webb historical sketch on naming places.

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging3044 Месяц назад +3

    It's almost as if the "Science" isn't "settled" at all.😂

  • @stewartread4235
    @stewartread4235 28 дней назад +1

    In the UK on a TV show called "time team", they found a Roman warm period fishing village 4 miles inland meaning sea levels have dropped.

    • @JeffBetker
      @JeffBetker 27 дней назад

      Or tectonics have lifted the island?

    • @stewartread4235
      @stewartread4235 27 дней назад

      @@JeffBetker no sir, southern england is sinking due to the glacial rebound of Scotland and northern England..!

    • @a.karley4672
      @a.karley4672 3 дня назад

      @@stewartread4235 [continuing from your ellipsis] northern England isn't changing much, overall, while Scotland is generally rising - with the highest rate of rise being in the Highlands.
      The land surface is _tilting_ as a result of the melting of several km thickness of ice sheet (in the Highlands) compared to several hundred metres thickness over the land in Englandshire. Comparing the southern shore of the Baltic sea and the northern end (between Sweden and Finland) shows a similar tilting.
      Yes, this does mean that warm, plastic mantle material is moving from below SE England to below central Scotland (and from below N.Poland to below the Baltic Sea ; where there are continental edges involved, matters get more complicated). But that material being warm enough to be plastic, doesn't produce earthquakes. Often.
      This tilting is a distinct *local* action compared to the *global* rise in sealevels consequent on the melting of the icesheets today.

    • @stewartread4235
      @stewartread4235 3 дня назад

      @@a.karley4672 so you're fully aware southern england is sinking and the sea level still dropped from the roman warm period..!

    • @a.karley4672
      @a.karley4672 2 дня назад

      @@stewartread4235 4 miles inland does not mean that sea-levels have dropped. "4m above sea-level" means that.
      Rivers build estuaries out to sea with tiny gradients on the surface, and 4 miles movement of the coastline out to sea is very doable in the time available. Don't forget to include compaction of freshly deposited sediment in that. (Hint : there are still PhD placements being offered to try to model that.)
      That said, the actual rates are quite variable from place to place. Relative sinking rates are very different between the middle-England (Lincolnshire, Humberside) coasts compared to the extended Rhine estuary of North Kent and East Anglia. Smoothed as seen by the mantle through some 50km of rock, the picture is simpler, but there are still 50km thickness of rocks to add their differences in terms of faults. I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that the old (Late Carboniferous to Cretaceous) "London- Brabant Island" had a significant change in subsidence rates across its margins. And that has been nominally buried for 40-plus million years (it probably influenced the path of the Pliocene proto-Thames though).
      The Romans would have been well aware of relative sea-level changes. They were getting hit by harbours silting up, or quays sinking below sea-level all the time in Italy and Greece. And they didn't have any way of predicting it.

  • @brendonpywell
    @brendonpywell Месяц назад +5

    Today, dust from wildfires are known to blow in and land on Greenland's surface. I wonder if other debris such as pollen, dna, tiny fragments of wood, can also blow in too.

    • @maxpeterson8616
      @maxpeterson8616 29 дней назад +1

      Pollen and dust do. Also some insects and microscopic organisms.

  • @7ItalianStallion
    @7ItalianStallion 29 дней назад

    Beautiful work! 👏

  • @susannebrunberg4174
    @susannebrunberg4174 29 дней назад +6

    "The ice sheet is not stable as we previously thought..."
    Who is "we"?
    Are scientists really that dump that they still not understand that the climate on earth is constantly changing? It has been changing since this planet was formed. Everybody else knows... Incredible!

    • @Unknown17
      @Unknown17 28 дней назад

      "Oh, no! Factories are responsible for all climate change throughout all of history! Everyone knows THAT! Follow the science!"

  • @DAT240Z72
    @DAT240Z72 21 день назад +1

    I don’t think anyone ever thought Greenland was always a desert of ice; Considering we know both the Arctic and Antarctica were free of ice. It wouldn’t make any sense that just Greenland decided to maintain its Ice sheets.
    What’s more interesting is the Greenland ice sheet has been growing and not shrinking as these cult “scientists” would like us to believe.

  • @user-xw9fd1ku6x
    @user-xw9fd1ku6x Месяц назад +4

    Hello Anton. I recently heard that scientists had found 2,000,000 year old DNA. Thanks for presenting this very interesting information.😊

  • @Johannes7707
    @Johannes7707 28 дней назад

    Thank you Anton!!!

  • @copperjacket00
    @copperjacket00 Месяц назад +3

    Thank you , 1000's of years to melt , I'm going right now and buy me electric vehicle and help save the planet , NOT

  • @maureenmeyerhoff285
    @maureenmeyerhoff285 15 дней назад +1

    Not necessarily annual layers, could be individual snowstorms, thus changing total time

  • @rosewoodsteel6656
    @rosewoodsteel6656 Месяц назад +8

    I'm waiting for some frozen dinosaurs to be unearthed.

  • @stevenkarnisky411
    @stevenkarnisky411 Месяц назад +1

    I have known about the ice cores from Greenland for a long time, although I can't say the testing results have been out there in the public domain. It is pretty common knowledge that there have been times where Greenland was much more habitable. Anything found under the ice sheet will have accumulated over millions of years and settled there between and before ice sheets the formation of ice sheets. Anything actually in the ice will have been put there by natural forces like wind and snow or migrating animals, as not much lives permanently on ice.
    Thanks, Anton.

  • @brynduffy
    @brynduffy Месяц назад +3

    Heinrich event incoming, Anton.
    Prepare.

  • @jvin248
    @jvin248 27 дней назад +1

    Anton, look into the Dzhanibekov Effect or the Tennis Racket Theorem and Earth's wandering poles/weakening magnetic fields. Some suggest Greenland and Antarctica are at the (12k year) past and (soon) future equators, even depicted on old maps (Piri Reis) copied from even older reference maps that accurately show Antarctica shorelines modern humans have only seen with ice penetrating radar.

  • @SebastianA.W.
    @SebastianA.W. Месяц назад +3

    lol. everybody from my gen knows that greenland used to be green in recent times, wtf

  • @jameshilton3668
    @jameshilton3668 День назад +1

    Did anyone stop to think maybe those ice "layers" could possibly have been made more than 1 layer a year??,😮

  • @chrisohanlon9784
    @chrisohanlon9784 Месяц назад +9

    I love experts being wrong, it's just sooooooo good

    • @glasscup8239
      @glasscup8239 Месяц назад +2

      For real I love people being humbled

    • @johnbox271
      @johnbox271 Месяц назад +1

      Thomas Alva Edison was wrong 2774 times before he was successful with the light bulb. That is what science is: repeated conjecture and experimentation with an incredible number of failures before reaching the correct outcome.

    • @glasscup8239
      @glasscup8239 Месяц назад +2

      @@johnbox271 it will still feel good after the 2774th time 😂

    • @johnbox271
      @johnbox271 Месяц назад

      @@glasscup8239 “ Our greatest weakness lies in giving up. The most certain way to succeed is always to try just one more time.” I doubt I would have had that level of persistance, but I am very glad he did.

    • @glasscup8239
      @glasscup8239 Месяц назад +1

      @@johnbox271 cornballll this is why I can’t stand this community bro just enjoy a lighthearted goofy banter

  • @robertmiller2173
    @robertmiller2173 3 дня назад

    Thanks! Wow! I wonder what it has in common with our neighbor here in New Zealand; Antarctica!