I’m with John when it comes to wanting to stay under CDL.. I’m a single truck owner operator with 25 dumpsters. My truck is rated at 26000. I don’t like roofers either because they never are honest and never tell you when there is multiple layers. When I do a roofing job I always charge weight ahead of time on a estimated weight on the squares they are doing. Concrete jobs are bad even for the big trucks. People think that as long as it fits it can go. They don’t care if you can’t lift it or if it’s safe. All they care about is getting it in the can and off the ground.. we can make just as much with under cdl and letting the big guys handle the bigger heavier jobs.. the contractors on big jobs always want a deal and to keep the dumpster forever.. good content as always..
Great comment and contribution to the channel! Bigger isn't always better. I find it so interesting tho... lately it seems there's a large amount of over CDL guys trying to attack or justify to us under CDL business owners that somehow we are doing it all wrong. I can't figure out why, as there's more than one way to be successful in this industry. Thanks for your comment and I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
I have a great relationship with a large cdl dumpster business with over 600 cans that I broker the big jobs to so I make it work both ways. I’m sure you do as well
@@MrTrashDumpsterRentalsSmart… very smart to establish professional working relationships with others that can help and willing to work with you at anytime.
@@samedaydumpsterguys are going to bash anyone, it's the internet and/or fb groups. Trailer guys get slammed but their out there making a living. I've said to you several times that there are many different segments of this industry and they are not the same. Our 10s and 15s go mainly to home owners, our 20 to 40s go mainly to contractors. Different markets entirely for sure. Oh, and if you see me bashing someone you can be sure it's only because I didn't have my daily quota of telemarketers to take my aggressions out on, otherwise I'm live and let live all day long 🤣🥸
Red flag for me is when they call me at 6 am wanting a dumpster right away. Did it think much of it, but this type of customer is bad pay and the reason they’re calling is possibly because someone else they’ve used in the past left them hanging. Collect money upfront for sure.
Very solid point that gets overlooked far too often. Last minute with certain types of customers can def be a 🚩. Not always... but most of the time it is. Thanks for letting everyone know. I appreciate the support.
Wait until Wednesday's "Emergency Broadcast" I'll be posting an unprecedented mid-week video because our industry is distraught at the fact I don't work with roofers.
Love the content as always. Every video you put out is always a chance to learn a different perspective on things. I find great value in not only learning, but learning from a variety of people and finding out how they do things. Not everyone is the same and being able to spot the good in each operation and trying to take that into consideration in my own day to day operation is a serious bonus for me. Would love to see you do a podcast sometime on how you scaled your operation. What you started out with and how quickly you scaled upwards.
I love this idea. I hadn't previously thought about doing any type of episode on this topic before, but I do like the fact a short "history lesson" on our path from beginning to where we are currently might have some educational value. I appreciate the comment and support. Thanks for watching.
As soon as they want to call someone else or negotiating on price it's pretty much over I hate admitting that sometimes I do negotiate but it's what they get me to do
Def keep me posted actually have a phone call on Wednesday with the bank to go over loan options. It's scary bc you always worry about failure and repayment on a loan
Anyone reading that's in the Philly/SE PA market and doesn't like roofers, come on and send them to us. Quality roofers are great customers. If you want to keep them, you need the proper equipment to handle their work. Two houses on same block can have a 5 ton swing in the material in a can. We literally had a roofer last week that had a 3 ton, and 8 ton can next door to each other at neighboring houses Red flags, cans on jobs already (unless it's a large commercial project), customers that don't answer phones and their voice mail box is full, out of state customers or contractors. Be prepared for customers not following directions and just be 100% sure that you've documented what you've told them and they've agreed to that documentation. That will help minimize the negative effect to your bottom line.
@@samedaydumpster we do a lot with OOS contractors, but defintely need to be cautious with these. Just wrapped up a very large artificial turf project with a California company (as you know, we're on Philly PA), everything was paid and handled and then he needed a 15 (after ten or so 30s and 40s). So their card was charged for the 15 before it was delivered. We have another project with a contractor from Orlando working in Philly for the last year. So again, as you said these aren't dead deals for me, but we definitely want to be cautious about what's going on.
I don't do any long term or monthly contracts. I refer all those type of projects out to some other businesses that do that as part of their business model. 24 hour, and 3-day rentals are 97% of my business. I'll do a few 7-day rentals here and there, but the short, quick hits are how I run my show. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment
I've read through the comments so I know this question is already beating a dead horse. So i'll ask it a different way. 🤣 In my opinion it's almost impossible to exceed 5 tons of shingles in a 12 yard dumpster. I'd estimate your concrete dumpsters fully loaded would be more or equal to a 12 yard of shingles assuming its not over the top. Have you tried out a process for roofers similar to your concrete dumpsters and found it not worthwhile? What's stopped you from dropping a max size dumpster for roofing?
It has 1000% nothing to do with weight. New video drops this Wednesday explaining in depth my reasons why I don't work for roofers under any situation. You can see it in full here on Wednesday @ 6Pm "Roofers, Liars? Or just really bad at math?" Keep hustling and Stay Loaded Brother.
If you don’t mind me asking, where do you order those brackets that go on the roll right arms to bungee cord it down? I have a very similar set up and I would love to have those.
Dumping anything at a customers property regardless if its prohibited, non-payment, or any other excuse is the absolute worst idea to resolve any issue you are having with a client in this industry. It's terrible advice and should not be done for any reason!
Skid steers too, just had someone drag a 20 yard all over their yard, dents, rocks jammed under the rails, scratches, pin popped out of rear door from lifting on it. Card on file handles that usually.
I'm new here.. so, I don't know if this has been answered before or whatnot. But say somebody rents a dumpster from you that's for general trash, and you come back and it *is* full of concrete. What do you do? Do you pick it up and dump it out right there or?
I would say this is far more likely for the guys running only one or two different size cans. The guys that have several style cans, concrete cans specifically I don't see this happening. One of the very best ways to ensure this doesn't happen to you is by asking this simple question to your customer when they very first inquire about renting your dumpster. "What type of project are you doing, What's everything you plan on putting into the dumpster?" Best of luck my friend, Thanks for watching.
Yes..... deceased animals are on our "prohibited list" We unfortunately deal with that a lot in our market due to a majority of the population participates in some form of hunting.
I actually added dead horse removal to my services. It’s easy I just drop the container and usually the customer has a tractor and just pushes it in. If they don’t I have a little electric winch that I use to pull it in. I can get rid of animal easily as well just take it to composter.
If you hire somebody and they broke the arm for the bin cover and the next week, they crashed into something and bent the arm into the tire cover Then the next week they got stuck in the mud. Would you fire them?. They are not that experience driving a truck but can only improve?
If you fire them... that's it, they are gone. If you coach them thru these mishaps, the idea is hopefully they don't make the same mistake twice. It's really difficult for me to tell you what to do. But I personally prefer trying to coach them and talk them thru their mistakes. After all.... You did in fact see something in them in the first place to hire them. Just my thoughts.
Stuck in the mud? When you drop a can with a single axle truck, those soft spots come looking for you Been there, done that. Peterbilt 337 with cable lift
I'm going to do a full episode on MY reasons for not working with roofers. But just a quick example why. A roofer climbs on a roof to give his customer a quote, You have to think if he has any experience at all in his industry, he would take the time to figure out how many layers and how many squares the roof he's bidding is? Wouldn't you think? But for some reason, when it comes to disposing of that roof into a dumpster, I haven't meet a roofer yet that can be honest or good enough at math to actually tell me how much they are disposing of. Not calling them liars, but I am calling them "mis-leading." I'll give 25 more reasons I don't work with roofers in my dedicated video I'll title it: "Roofers, Liars? Or just really bad at math?"
If it's residential customers that number is very very low. They just don't have construction equipment to move the dumpster around with, that's where most your damage comes from is construction equipment. In four years I've only had really one dumpster get damaged from a residential rental and that was due to a fire in the dumpster. Now, construction rentals or rentals to contractors is a whole different story. They like to load dumpsters with skid steers, forklifts, excavators, front end loaders and anything else they have on the job site. They are always trying to grab the dumpster and move them around. You are very likely to end up with damage to your dumpster when renting to a contractor.
I’m with John when it comes to wanting to stay under CDL.. I’m a single truck owner operator with 25 dumpsters. My truck is rated at 26000. I don’t like roofers either because they never are honest and never tell you when there is multiple layers. When I do a roofing job I always charge weight ahead of time on a estimated weight on the squares they are doing. Concrete jobs are bad even for the big trucks. People think that as long as it fits it can go. They don’t care if you can’t lift it or if it’s safe. All they care about is getting it in the can and off the ground.. we can make just as much with under cdl and letting the big guys handle the bigger heavier jobs.. the contractors on big jobs always want a deal and to keep the dumpster forever.. good content as always..
Great comment and contribution to the channel! Bigger isn't always better. I find it so interesting tho... lately it seems there's a large amount of over CDL guys trying to attack or justify to us under CDL business owners that somehow we are doing it all wrong. I can't figure out why, as there's more than one way to be successful in this industry. Thanks for your comment and I appreciate you taking the time to watch.
I have a great relationship with a large cdl dumpster business with over 600 cans that I broker the big jobs to so I make it work both ways. I’m sure you do as well
@@MrTrashDumpsterRentalsSmart… very smart to establish professional working relationships with others that can help and willing to work with you at anytime.
@@samedaydumpsterguys are going to bash anyone, it's the internet and/or fb groups. Trailer guys get slammed but their out there making a living. I've said to you several times that there are many different segments of this industry and they are not the same. Our 10s and 15s go mainly to home owners, our 20 to 40s go mainly to contractors. Different markets entirely for sure.
Oh, and if you see me bashing someone you can be sure it's only because I didn't have my daily quota of telemarketers to take my aggressions out on, otherwise I'm live and let live all day long 🤣🥸
We run CDL and under
Love both
But CDL is whole ball park different
Red flag for me is when they call me at 6 am wanting a dumpster right away. Did it think much of it, but this type of customer is bad pay and the reason they’re calling is possibly because someone else they’ve used in the past left them hanging. Collect money upfront for sure.
Very solid point that gets overlooked far too often. Last minute with certain types of customers can def be a 🚩. Not always... but most of the time it is. Thanks for letting everyone know. I appreciate the support.
Lol! The science of dumpsters. Who would have thought. 🤷🏽♂️
Wait until Wednesday's "Emergency Broadcast" I'll be posting an unprecedented mid-week video because our industry is distraught at the fact I don't work with roofers.
Love the content as always. Every video you put out is always a chance to learn a different perspective on things. I find great value in not only learning, but learning from a variety of people and finding out how they do things. Not everyone is the same and being able to spot the good in each operation and trying to take that into consideration in my own day to day operation is a serious bonus for me. Would love to see you do a podcast sometime on how you scaled your operation. What you started out with and how quickly you scaled upwards.
I love this idea. I hadn't previously thought about doing any type of episode on this topic before, but I do like the fact a short "history lesson" on our path from beginning to where we are currently might have some educational value. I appreciate the comment and support. Thanks for watching.
As soon as they want to call someone else or negotiating on price it's pretty much over
I hate admitting that sometimes I do negotiate but it's what they get me to do
This is a great one! I'll file this one under "Renegotiating after I get onsite." Great Red Flag brother. Thanks for your contribution.
Great video! I look for a lot of those red flags, I hadn’t dealt with the wash out issue, I will definitely keep my eyes open for that.
Unfortunately I learned that one the hard way sort of speak. Thanks for taking the time to check out the channel. Much appreciated.
I want this exact truck John . Its a beauty and the drivers seat looks comfortable
This truck with be up for sale in early September, we have another new Peterbilt that will be finished up then.
Def keep me posted actually have a phone call on Wednesday with the bank to go over loan options. It's scary bc you always worry about failure and repayment on a loan
Still can't find the brackets at 15:25 I need to catch up with all your videos.
Thanks for the content, really appreciate.
www.rollrite.com
@@samedaydumpster thanks, I'll look into it
Thank you for all the great information currently have a dump truck business and thinking about getting into roll-offs in 2025
Thank You for watching the videos Brian and supporting the channel. Best of luck with the new business my friend.
Anyone reading that's in the Philly/SE PA market and doesn't like roofers, come on and send them to us. Quality roofers are great customers. If you want to keep them, you need the proper equipment to handle their work. Two houses on same block can have a 5 ton swing in the material in a can. We literally had a roofer last week that had a 3 ton, and 8 ton can next door to each other at neighboring houses
Red flags, cans on jobs already (unless it's a large commercial project), customers that don't answer phones and their voice mail box is full, out of state customers or contractors.
Be prepared for customers not following directions and just be 100% sure that you've documented what you've told them and they've agreed to that documentation. That will help minimize the negative effect to your bottom line.
Love these!!!! Out of state contractors and FULL VM’s are getting added to my list today. Great contribution brother. Thank You.
@@samedaydumpster we do a lot with OOS contractors, but defintely need to be cautious with these. Just wrapped up a very large artificial turf project with a California company (as you know, we're on Philly PA), everything was paid and handled and then he needed a 15 (after ten or so 30s and 40s). So their card was charged for the 15 before it was delivered. We have another project with a contractor from Orlando working in Philly for the last year. So again, as you said these aren't dead deals for me, but we definitely want to be cautious about what's going on.
@@DavidGeppertRecycling Such solid advice as always. I appreciate your valuable insights and sharing your experience with the entire community.
Geppert is a good man! We ❤ Same Day
@@tarpgod2086 God Bless 🙏🏽
Great knowledge! Thanks brother
Thanks for watching and supporting the channel Joel. Very much appreciated.
One video i would like to see is you landing contracts . Do you ever get monthly’s with once a week swaps or such things like that .
I don't do any long term or monthly contracts. I refer all those type of projects out to some other businesses that do that as part of their business model. 24 hour, and 3-day rentals are 97% of my business. I'll do a few 7-day rentals here and there, but the short, quick hits are how I run my show. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment
Great info man
Thanks Jeff. I appreciate the trust and support my man.
I've read through the comments so I know this question is already beating a dead horse. So i'll ask it a different way. 🤣 In my opinion it's almost impossible to exceed 5 tons of shingles in a 12 yard dumpster. I'd estimate your concrete dumpsters fully loaded would be more or equal to a 12 yard of shingles assuming its not over the top. Have you tried out a process for roofers similar to your concrete dumpsters and found it not worthwhile? What's stopped you from dropping a max size dumpster for roofing?
It has 1000% nothing to do with weight. New video drops this Wednesday explaining in depth my reasons why I don't work for roofers under any situation.
You can see it in full here on Wednesday @ 6Pm "Roofers, Liars? Or just really bad at math?"
Keep hustling and Stay Loaded Brother.
Good list
Thanks! I appreciate you watching.
If you don’t mind me asking, where do you order those brackets that go on the roll right arms to bungee cord it down? I have a very similar set up and I would love to have those.
www.rollrite.com
Where can we get those brackets 15:25
If it's prohibited then when you pick it up just dump it in their yard
Dumping anything at a customers property regardless if its prohibited, non-payment, or any other excuse is the absolute worst idea to resolve any issue you are having with a client in this industry. It's terrible advice and should not be done for any reason!
Who cares if they can't listen dump it and leave and they are not a client any more
Excavators 🤦🏻♂️
Amen. I'm with you.
Skid steers too, just had someone drag a 20 yard all over their yard, dents, rocks jammed under the rails, scratches, pin popped out of rear door from lifting on it. Card on file handles that usually.
I'm new here.. so, I don't know if this has been answered before or whatnot. But say somebody rents a dumpster from you that's for general trash, and you come back and it *is* full of concrete. What do you do? Do you pick it up and dump it out right there or?
I would say this is far more likely for the guys running only one or two different size cans. The guys that have several style cans, concrete cans specifically I don't see this happening. One of the very best ways to ensure this doesn't happen to you is by asking this simple question to your customer when they very first inquire about renting your dumpster. "What type of project are you doing, What's everything you plan on putting into the dumpster?"
Best of luck my friend, Thanks for watching.
Ref flag if they ask if you know of someone that Can haul a dead animal on drop-off .
Yes..... deceased animals are on our "prohibited list" We unfortunately deal with that a lot in our market due to a majority of the population participates in some form of hunting.
I actually added dead horse removal to my services. It’s easy I just drop the container and usually the customer has a tractor and just pushes it in. If they don’t I have a little electric winch that I use to pull it in. I can get rid of animal easily as well just take it to composter.
If you hire somebody and they broke the arm for the bin cover and the next week, they crashed into something and bent the arm into the tire cover Then the next week they got stuck in the mud. Would you fire them?. They are not that experience driving a truck but can only improve?
If you fire them... that's it, they are gone. If you coach them thru these mishaps, the idea is hopefully they don't make the same mistake twice. It's really difficult for me to tell you what to do. But I personally prefer trying to coach them and talk them thru their mistakes. After all.... You did in fact see something in them in the first place to hire them. Just my thoughts.
Stuck in the mud?
When you drop a can with a single axle truck, those soft spots come looking for you
Been there, done that. Peterbilt 337 with cable lift
What is it about roofers that makes it a red flag?
I'm going to do a full episode on MY reasons for not working with roofers. But just a quick example why. A roofer climbs on a roof to give his customer a quote, You have to think if he has any experience at all in his industry, he would take the time to figure out how many layers and how many squares the roof he's bidding is? Wouldn't you think? But for some reason, when it comes to disposing of that roof into a dumpster, I haven't meet a roofer yet that can be honest or good enough at math to actually tell me how much they are disposing of. Not calling them liars, but I am calling them "mis-leading." I'll give 25 more reasons I don't work with roofers in my dedicated video I'll title it: "Roofers, Liars? Or just really bad at math?"
What % of customers do damage intentionally ? What % are just stupid and careless ?
If it's residential customers that number is very very low. They just don't have construction equipment to move the dumpster around with, that's where most your damage comes from is construction equipment. In four years I've only had really one dumpster get damaged from a residential rental and that was due to a fire in the dumpster.
Now, construction rentals or rentals to contractors is a whole different story. They like to load dumpsters with skid steers, forklifts, excavators, front end loaders and anything else they have on the job site. They are always trying to grab the dumpster and move them around. You are very likely to end up with damage to your dumpster when renting to a contractor.
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Yes sir.
Are you able to let us know what truck u drive to this job.
Chevrolet 6500
@@samedaydumpster whats the biggest size dumpster you can fit in that truck
Where we can get hook lift washout bins?
Bucks Fabrication located in PA makes a washout hooklift dumpster.
@@samedaydumpster Question did you lease your trucks are purchase them? If leased what process you took? thanks
@@59poppN My personal preference is to purchase trucks and equipment and not lease.
Video would be cool on that!!
@@samedaydumpster So I take it you purchased all your equipment & truck's getting started?
Ware I can get some used truck
Do you need a CDL to drive that?
No, the truck in this video is a 2023 Chevrolet 6500. No cdl required for this size truck.