Mark 13 26 “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. ... 28 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 29 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it[d] is near, right at the door. 30 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. How come it didn't happen?
@mojo - Jesus said that quote because he also had to play the part of prophet for his own second coming. That is why not all of those things have happened.
He is the Son of Man because he is a man. And he is the salvation for mankind. Not for another kind. Not for the beasts. And not for the angels. The angels or fallen angels are referred to as sons of God. Jesus calls himself the son of Man, to show us that He is fighting for mankind. Those who say they are sons of God , will return. They are already here. They will claim to have the way. And they will deceive many. Jesus is called the son of Man to remind us, that man is the creation of God and we are children of God. The fallen angels will come pretending to be aliens. (Not sons of man). They will come telling us that they created us. So that they also thereby telling us we are not really human. We are not really man. Jesus is juxtaposing himself to Satan. The sons of God. And he is reminding us, that the son of Man is not subject to any “sons of gods” or fallen angels, but the son of man is the true son of God.
Basically, "The Son Of Man" as spoken by Jesus means "The Son of and for all of Mankind". He is sent from God to all of mankind, rather than just the Israelites who prepared the way for him. The Son of Man is one of us, a pure/sinless son that mankind can offer up to God for admittance and payment for our sins. Here is an article I wrote that has some more to read: Who and what is the "Son Of Man". Jesus often called himself the Son Of Man, and wanted us to know him as this, rather than some other divine title. The Son Of Man is also mentioned in the Old Testament Bible. It is like a title name of what his mission is. In "extended form", The Son of Man means: The Son of Mankind, The Son for all of Mankind, The Son of All Of Mankind. 1. The Son of Man is like the example of what we can become. 2. The Son of Man means a son that mankind can offer up to God for our sins. Jesus is the last and true (pure, sinless, willing) offer/sacrifice to God as admittance/acknowledging and payment of our sins. 3. The Son of Man means the promised son/answer/way that we have been waiting and prepared for, such as during long purification of the Israelites, by God, which prepared the way for Jesus is the God/man. God has offered Jesus to mankind. Jesus is God with us. Jesus, is the (Gospel) Word in the flesh/physical form, rather than spiritual form, He is also "one of us", he is a man, he is the example, he prays to Father God. Jesus is the God/man. Jesus himself is the living Gospel, he is the living message, he is the way. Jesus does the saving/Salvation part for your past sins. The Spirit of God does the reborn part so that you have no further desire to sin, and can be admitted into the kingdom of God/haven.
+trailkeeper Jesus wanted to be known as the "Son of Man", rather than just a "Son of David" or a "Son of Abraham". Jesus said that he could raise even stones to follow Abraham. Hence he is saying that having Abraham was/is not enough, and that the way is standing before you, that is, Jesus is the one.
+trailkeeper Jesus is using that title to show what he is in relation to all of mankind, rather than demand and forsake our freewill loving/true choice and make us call him by deity. He wanted us, for ourselves to essentially see it "in him" and what he was doing. He essentially was proving who he was, rather than demanding by force.
Jesus is the God/man: Matthew: 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts [nearby areas, surrounding] of Caesarea Philippi [(a city north of the Sea of Galilee, near Mt. Hermon)], he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that I the Son of man am? 16:14 And they said, Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elias [(Elijah)]; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 16:15 He said to them, But who do you say that I am? 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. 16:17 And Jesus answered and said to him, Blessed are you, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father which is in heaven.
TreeOfLifeGospel You've left out an important attribute that the Son of Man has. The Son of Man was to have equal authority with God in the judgement of nations, such as the judgement of apostate Jerusalem in 70 AD, which paved the way for the new Israel of the Spirit (the Church) to be born.
"Son of Man" may have been used to distinguish himself as treated by others from himself as he knows his own soul. For example, it's use with Judas (Luck 22:48) "Are you betraying the son of man with a kiss?" --- has a double meaning, it announces magical precognition ostensibly due to the power of god, but simultaneously reassures Judas to some extent, that he has not betrayed god, god's plan, or god's son, as his decision was not made with knowledge of Jesus's true nature/soul, and god's son already knew and allowed it to happen, for it is part of a divine plan anyway.
The Word is called the Son of man because he seems like a man in his shape for example when the Lord and the two angels visited Abraham on a way to Sodom,the scripture said that Abraham and his family sow three men.(men, and sons of men does mean the same). And in the vision of Daniel 7 he sow like a Son o man. The reason of this title is because the Lord seems to us in human figure.Even we are not like him indeed. And also he took human flesh for planted his tabernacle with humanity. (Gn 1: 26-27): 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may ruleover the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
This is my take on Jesus the Christ. He came as the first son born of the spirit. When he referred the son of man and his coming he was talking about all the people who the Holy Spirit had also came into, being recognised by that love. As the world get more and more violent the people Jesus spoke of will become like beacons of light speaking their truth without condemnation. This is the living temple that the Holy one inhabits.
New Testament scholar, Bart Ehrman claims Jesus wasn't talking about himself when prophesied the coming of the Son of Man because he speaks of him in the third person. Ehrman says Jesus was just another apocalyptic preacher of his time, preaching about the Son of Man that all Jews were anticipating at the world's end.
University of Edinburg Professor Larry Hurtado says Ehrman seems ill-informed and/or not current with this view. For example, he assumes that the expression “the son of man” (used numerous times by Jesus in the Gospels) was a recognized title of a figure well-known in ancient Jewish eschatological hopes. So, Ehrman continues (on this assumption), Jesus must have been referring to this future figure, not to himself. But from at least the 1970s it has been clear that this assumption is baseless. There is, in fact, no evidence that “the son of man” was a fixed title, or that there was a known figure who bore it, in ancient Jewish tradition. So (as is clearly the way the Gospel writers took the expression), Jesus’ use of “the son of man” (NB: with the definite article) seems to have been simply a distinctive self-referential expression/idiom. To cite another example of the curious misunderstanding of some things, Ehrman repeatedly refers to the early Christian doctrine of Jesus’ incarnation as portraying him as “temporarily human.” But from the NT onward, and even in subsequent centuries, Jesus’ assumption of humanity was emphatically portrayed as irrevocable. Indeed, it is as a resurrected and glorified human that he serves (in classical Christian thought) as the paradigm for the ultimate salvation of believers. (Of course, in classical Christian belief Jesus is also divine, but not at the expense of a genuine, and irrevocable, humanity.)
If you read Mark 14, it is pretty clear that Jesus is referring to himself when he references the Son of Man. One easy example is Mark 14v41-42, when Judas approaches - Jesus says that the Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of sinners.
Because Christ was not speaking to the generation at that time frame He is speaking to the generation that saw the rebirth of the nation of Israel. The fig tree is Israel
THERAPTURECOMES The rebirth of the nation of Israel is the Church, born in 70 AD. There is no other Israel. If you're referring to the land of Palestine in the middle east, that was stolen by the Khazars in 1948. They are certainly not the true Israel today.
When Jesus was growing up He had no idea who He was. All His parents ever let Him know about Himself is all that Gabriel ever told them and that was that He was a child of great promise. He had no idea what to entitle Himself and one day when He was reading the Book of Enoch He decided to call Himself son of man. None of that came from Daniel. The church needs to do two things, stay out of the Old Testament and stay out of Revelation. Remain in peace...
lindsay hallmark My Mother asked me to assist during a ladies Bible Study and I was given the assignment of "The Son of Man" ... Jesus refers to Himself as the Son of Man over 20x in the book of Luke! :)
Its a two part question, are you the christ,son of god/man, jesus answers .yes i am to being the christ,but to the other question of are u gods son, jesus did not say yes to that instead he says, you will see the son of man sitting at the right hand of god, people think coz he said “i am” means he said yes to being the son of god or god
GREAT TEACHING THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Mark 13 26 “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. ... 28 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 29 Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it[d] is near, right at the door. 30 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. How come it didn't happen?
@mojo - Jesus said that quote because he also had to play the part of prophet for his own second coming. That is why not all of those things have happened.
He is the Son of Man because he is a man. And he is the salvation for mankind. Not for another kind. Not for the beasts. And not for the angels.
The angels or fallen angels are referred to as sons of God. Jesus calls himself the son of Man, to show us that He is fighting for mankind.
Those who say they are sons of God , will return. They are already here. They will claim to have the way. And they will deceive many.
Jesus is called the son of Man to remind us, that man is the creation of God and we are children of God.
The fallen angels will come pretending to be aliens. (Not sons of man). They will come telling us that they created us. So that they also thereby telling us we are not really human. We are not really man.
Jesus is juxtaposing himself to Satan. The sons of God. And he is reminding us, that the son of Man is not subject to any “sons of gods” or fallen angels, but the son of man is the true son of God.
Daniel 7:13 is about the Return of Christ because it is shown happening After the fourth beast is destroyed.
The Book of Daniel also calls Jesus the Son of Man which is interesting. But no Book goes into such clear detail of this topic as the Book of Enoch.
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Basically, "The Son Of Man" as spoken by Jesus means "The Son of and for all of Mankind". He is sent from God to all of mankind, rather than just the Israelites who prepared the way for him. The Son of Man is one of us, a pure/sinless son that mankind can offer up to God for admittance and payment for our sins. Here is an article I wrote that has some more to read:
Who and what is the "Son Of Man".
Jesus often called himself the Son Of Man, and wanted us to know him as this, rather than some other divine title. The
Son Of Man is also mentioned in the Old Testament Bible. It is like a title name of what his mission is.
In "extended form", The Son of Man means:
The Son of Mankind, The Son for all of Mankind, The Son of All Of Mankind.
1. The Son of Man is like the example of what we can become.
2. The Son of Man means a son that mankind can offer up to God for our sins. Jesus is the last and true (pure, sinless, willing) offer/sacrifice to God as admittance/acknowledging and payment of our sins.
3. The Son of Man means the promised son/answer/way that we have been waiting and prepared for, such as during long purification of the Israelites, by God, which prepared the way for Jesus is the God/man.
God has offered Jesus to mankind. Jesus is God with us. Jesus, is the (Gospel) Word in the flesh/physical form, rather than spiritual form, He is also "one of us", he is a man, he is the example, he prays to Father God. Jesus is the God/man. Jesus himself is the living Gospel, he is the living message, he is the way.
Jesus does the saving/Salvation part for your past sins. The Spirit of God does the reborn part so that you have no further desire to sin, and can be admitted into the kingdom of God/haven.
+trailkeeper Jesus wanted to be known as the "Son of Man", rather than just a "Son of David" or a "Son of Abraham". Jesus said that he could raise even stones to follow Abraham. Hence he is saying that having Abraham was/is not enough, and that the way is standing before you, that is, Jesus is the one.
+trailkeeper Jesus is using that title to show what he is in relation to all of mankind, rather than demand and forsake our freewill loving/true choice and make us call him by deity. He wanted us, for ourselves to essentially see it "in him" and what he was doing. He essentially was proving who he was, rather than demanding by force.
Jesus is the God/man:
Matthew: 16:13 When Jesus came into the coasts [nearby areas, surrounding] of Caesarea Philippi [(a city north of the Sea of Galilee, near Mt. Hermon)], he asked his disciples, saying, Who do men say that I the Son of man am? 16:14 And they said, Some say that you are John the Baptist: some, Elias [(Elijah)]; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
16:15 He said to them, But who do you say that I am? 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.
16:17 And Jesus answered and said to him, Blessed are you, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood has not revealed it to you, but my Father which is in heaven.
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TreeOfLifeGospel
You've left out an important attribute that the Son of Man has. The Son of Man was to have equal authority with God in the judgement of nations, such as the judgement of apostate Jerusalem in 70 AD, which paved the way for the new Israel of the Spirit (the Church) to be born.
"Son of Man" may have been used to distinguish himself as treated by others from himself as he knows his own soul. For example, it's use with Judas (Luck 22:48) "Are you betraying the son of man with a kiss?" --- has a double meaning, it announces magical precognition ostensibly due to the power of god, but simultaneously reassures Judas to some extent, that he has not betrayed god, god's plan, or god's son, as his decision was not made with knowledge of Jesus's true nature/soul, and god's son already knew and allowed it to happen, for it is part of a divine plan anyway.
The Word is called the Son of man because he seems like a man in his shape for example when the Lord and the two angels visited Abraham on a way to Sodom,the scripture said that Abraham and his family sow three men.(men, and sons of men does mean the same).
And in the vision of Daniel 7 he sow like a Son o man.
The reason of this title is because the Lord seems to us in human figure.Even we are not like him indeed.
And also he took human flesh for planted his tabernacle with humanity.
(Gn 1: 26-27):
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may ruleover the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”
27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.
im in gold beach Oregon looking for blood doctor to provide evidence for what i already know im messiah
This is my take on Jesus the Christ. He came as the first son born of the spirit. When he referred the son of man and his coming he was talking about all the people who the Holy Spirit had also came into, being recognised by that love. As the world get more and more violent the people Jesus spoke of will become like beacons of light speaking their truth without condemnation. This is the living temple that the Holy one inhabits.
Nice.
The temple is the whole of the earth its not a building made by human hands! Not one made if stone or wood!
How has it been "debunked" - any non-emotional reasons for your belief?
New Testament scholar, Bart Ehrman claims Jesus wasn't talking about himself when prophesied the coming of the Son of Man because he speaks of him in the third person. Ehrman says Jesus was just another apocalyptic preacher of his time, preaching about the Son of Man that all Jews were anticipating at the world's end.
University of Edinburg Professor Larry Hurtado says Ehrman seems ill-informed and/or not current with this view. For example, he assumes that the expression “the son of man” (used numerous times by Jesus in the Gospels) was a recognized title of a figure well-known in ancient Jewish eschatological hopes. So, Ehrman continues (on this assumption), Jesus must have been referring to this future figure, not to himself. But from at least the 1970s it has been clear that this assumption is baseless. There is, in fact, no evidence that “the son of man” was a fixed title, or that there was a known figure who bore it, in ancient Jewish tradition. So (as is clearly the way the Gospel writers took the expression), Jesus’ use of “the son of man” (NB: with the definite article) seems to have been simply a distinctive self-referential expression/idiom.
To cite another example of the curious misunderstanding of some things, Ehrman repeatedly refers to the early Christian doctrine of Jesus’ incarnation as portraying him as “temporarily human.” But from the NT onward, and even in subsequent centuries, Jesus’ assumption of humanity was emphatically portrayed as irrevocable. Indeed, it is as a resurrected and glorified human that he serves (in classical Christian thought) as the paradigm for the ultimate salvation of believers. (Of course, in classical Christian belief Jesus is also divine, but not at the expense of a genuine, and irrevocable, humanity.)
shadowheart52
Ehrman is an apostate and is on the road to hell.
If you read Mark 14, it is pretty clear that Jesus is referring to himself when he references the Son of Man. One easy example is Mark 14v41-42, when Judas approaches - Jesus says that the Son of Man is being betrayed into the hands of sinners.
"Son FO man"
Because Christ was not speaking to the generation at that time frame
He is speaking to the generation that saw the rebirth of the nation of Israel. The fig tree is Israel
THERAPTURECOMES
The rebirth of the nation of Israel is the Church, born in 70 AD. There is no other Israel. If you're referring to the land of Palestine in the middle east, that was stolen by the Khazars in 1948. They are certainly not the true Israel today.
When Jesus was growing up He had no idea who He was. All His parents ever let Him know about Himself is all that Gabriel ever told them and that was that He was a child of great promise. He had no idea what to entitle Himself and one day when He was reading the Book of Enoch He decided to call Himself son of man. None of that came from Daniel. The church needs to do two things, stay out of the Old Testament and stay out of Revelation. Remain in peace...
jesus never says he is the son of man! read Matthew again! he says "who is calling me the son of man?!" c'mon people READ
lindsay hallmark My Mother asked me to assist during a ladies Bible Study and I was given the assignment of "The Son of Man" ... Jesus refers to Himself as the Son of Man over 20x in the book of Luke! :)
- Matthew 8/20,Jesus said:"...the son of man hath not..." and a lot more.
Matthew 12?
Its a two part question, are you the christ,son of god/man, jesus answers .yes i am to being the christ,but to the other question of are u gods son, jesus did not say yes to that instead he says, you will see the son of man sitting at the right hand of god, people think coz he said “i am” means he said yes to being the son of god or god
The Son Of Man has the authority to forgive sin
im son of man bears warthogs buffalo lions call us this the Messiah they used thow boys in lion's den tell they found us God's son
Ahhahahhahaha he clearly saying he's human being son of Adam not son of god !!!