How much does it cost to build a tiny boat?
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***COST MATRIX***
Aluminum Framing.
1. Angle: 22.50 x 16ft. stick: 225 - 300.00
2. ¾ Angle: 12.50 x 16ft stick: 50.00
3. ¾ x 1/16” Aluminum Tubing. 30.00 x 24ft stick = 60.00
4. Rivets 100.00 +
5. SS fasteners = 50.00 +
TOTAL est: 550 - 600.00 in materials:
Foam/ Flotation and Insulation:
1. 1.5” Foam sheets: 18/00 per 4x8 sheet = 36 - 40.00+
2. Pour Foam: 100.00 per 2 gallon kit: 2 kits needed: 200.00+
3. Quad Foam/gap filler: 20.00+
4. TOTAL est: 280 - 300.00
NO MORE NOODLES:
Wiring & Electrical:
1. 14awg Duplex: 100ft spool = 45.00
2. 6awg duplex 25ft roll = 75.00
3. Blue Sea Systems 12 bank fuze block/ bus bar combo = 55.00
4. Additional tinned copper bus bars: 20.00
5. Switch Panel = 45.00
6. Marine Termina/butt/mail & femail connectors: 55.00
7. Master Switch 25.00
8. Post covers 5.00
9. Battery Lugs 10 - 20.00
10. Self-soldering heat shrink connectors: 10-20.00 depending.
11. Fuzes 5 - 10.00
12. Wire looming 12.00
13. Grommets 10.00
14. Cable glands 10-20.00
15. Bilge pump 20 - 40.00
TOTAL est: 385 - 420.00+
Deck/ Hatches/Compartments:
1. Standard struts 16.00 for bulk pack = 20 - 30.00
2. Totes: 10 - 20.00 per tote = 60 - 100.00
3. Pull latches: 5.00 per latch = 30 - 40.00 on average
4. Cam Lever Latches = 35 - 35.00 per latch
5. PVC/Rod tubes: 5.00 per 10ft tube = 30 - 50.00
6. Piano Hinges: 20 - 30.00 per 5ft stick = 100.00+
7. Plywood: 20 - 30.00 per 4x8 sheet x 2 = 40 - 60.00
8. 1.5” long pop rivets: 20.00
TOTAL est: 435 - 450.00
Carpet/ Decking Materials
1. 20oz Marine Carpet: 250 - 300 per role depending on size
2. EVA foam Matting: 39”x 78” 75 - 80.00 per sheet: 150 - 200.00 depending.
3. Reflective bubble wrap insulation: 13 - 20.00 per roll.
4. Gator Guards Gatorskinz: 50 - 165.00 in bulk:
TOTAL est: 200 - 300.00
Lights / LED:
1. Courtesy Lights: 14 - 20.00 for bulk pack.
2. Front Nav light and base: 30 - 40.00 for both
3. Rear Nav Light and base 30 - 40.00 for both.
4. LED strips 10- 20.00
TOTAL est: 100 - 120.00+
Live Well:
· Johnson Pumps 40 - 50.00
· Flex hose 35ft roll 18 - 20.00
· Pump screens 12 - 15.00
· Flow Rite Pump Out / Aerator Combo: 30.00
· Bilge Pump 500 GPH 18 - 45.00
· Livewell Timer: 40.00
· VT2 systems: 50.00
TOTAL est: 250 - 300.00+
LOW - END Estimate: 2,200.00
MID- END Estimate: 2,500.00
HIGH-End (3K on up^^^)
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Modify your boat at your own risk. totalboat
While do your build you just have to keep going to Bass Pro and look at their boats. The least expensive boat with features (rod rocker, livewell, storage bins) is 15K. It makes you feel good on how much money you are saving by building yourself!
Um no .They are now made out of all aluminum and now even the deck and hatches are aluminum.
Oh sorry, the bass pro shop boats have some wood but the Nate Eckhold and Mike Lopez tiny builds are now all made out of aluminum. I made mine out of aluminum and coosa and if I were to do another it would be all aluminum. I think the only thing about the bass pro shop is they can be financed.
Finally looking into making one after all these years of keeping your stuff bookmarked
Do it!
Daniel Andersen was in college for the past few years so now finances are freed up
Thank you, very appreciated and informative. Great price actually when all is said and done. I have been glued to several of your builds now and they are fantastic to say the least. I wish I could tour your shop and have a boat built by you. If I were younger I would attempt it myself. I am very impressed by your knowledge and even more so by your honest and down to earth attitude and professionalism.
Semper Fi and good fishing
Thanks for this video, helped a lot! Next video- weight distribution, where do you put the heavier components and why
I really enjoy your videos. I just recently started working on a 1982 bass tracker I. Your videos are helping a ton! Keep them coming!
I've had a John Bowe and had a plan for 4 years to try and fix it thank you so much for these videos it gives me exactly what I've been looking for so I could try and plan on how to fix my 12 ft Sea Nymph I love the satisfaction of A DYI and the custom that you get to build into it I am so grateful thank you for your videos
No cash no splash was our moto at boat shop...really enjoy the channel...love the attention to detail...the pride and passion in your builds are second to non...
Easily one of the very best diy boat channels on yt.
An outstanding bit of information! You may want to mention that the price of the motor and the boat itself needs to be added to this. A brand new motor will more than double this cost and a brand new boat hull will add another significant amount - the bigger the boat the more expensive a motor you need and the price of the boat itself goes up too. There is also the cost of tools to consider. By my calculations, the cheapest bass boat at bass pro runs cheaper- not more expensive- than building your own though not by much and the quality isn't there compared to the boats on this channel.
I've made the comment several times an older bass boat is about the same price.
Many people who come here already have the boat and motor. Itd be impossible for them to average the cost of people who use craigslist or facebook marketplace. Also, I highly doubt you found a bass boat at Bass Pro for under $3k. Even the used ones are closer to $10k starting
Sure they can get a used bass boat for 3k..... that also means they inherit all of the problems that a 3k bass boat brings lol. This is built new
@@bass_scout_actual7554 you can buy a 16' jon boat in good shape with a good motor, trolling motor for 2-3k all day long. Yeah it may he a 95' model but once you put 2k into it you basically have a new boat.
I have a 16'x 75" aluminum boat, that im starting to redo for myself. I drew up a diagrams for framing, hatches, livewell, consule, etc. I have built many boats from 12' jon boat, to 30' cuddy cabin, from steel, aluminum, fiberglass, ect. If done correctly wood framing will last 20yrs or longer. But i have priced out aluminum for my current build and at over $1000 just for framing. And priced wood, at 140, plus 100, for propane for burner, and 2 part sealer. 240 total. Plus if you cover and take care of your boat it will last many years to come. I really enjoyed your work, very good job. But you need to ensure to people watching, that depending on what state your in, doing this mod, could and would get you a very expensive fine and could possible get boat impounded.
Your shop set up! Aluminum shelves and closets are awesome!
This is the finest, quickest, most comprehensive boat improvement video ever made. The years of wisdom are very very noticeable in the creation of this vid.... thank you thank you thank you!
This is fantastic information but I also want the average labor cost because if I get into resale I have to capture this dynamic in order to price the product.
I love the aluminum boats and im a welder fabricator I build all my own poling platforms, rod holders, and t tops ive welded up many aluminum hulls. but I like working with fiberglass and building my tiny boat out composite materials and fiberglass. All coast about the same maybe even cheaper to go fiberglass if you go with marine plywood. either way I think this channel is awesome keep the bad ass builds coming!
Thanks for the heads up dude.. Much needed info
Thanks for the Vid and info. I think im going to break down my tracker V14 this winter and apply some of your stuff. I used wood the first go around and some of front rivets didn't like the big waves that can happen at lake mead, nv. I have a few leaks on the rivets now that i'm going to have to fix before next season(i try not to fish if the low temp is below my age, i'm 48). Hopefully it's still under warranty since its a 2016. Thanks again and keep the vids coming.
Thanks for this video. I follow some of your builds it is very interesting to watch you take a shell of a boat and turn it into a very useable fishing platform! I fit into that category of person you described at the end as far as time to dedicate to build my own boat. That being said do you purchase boats and build to sell to people such as myself?
Grommets: the unsung hero of your electrical wiring
Thanks man, for taking your time for all of us looking to do it for ourselves!👍
Awesome info. Just need to add in what tools are necessary because that is a huge cost. Not everyone has access to them.
So much great information I have almost no excuses to not have a boat by Spring
I would think you could save 50-100 dollars if you had a TIG welder and did little plug welds rather than a thousand rivets per boat
Was wondering if you have ever tried fixing up the boats and selling them? If so how did that go and if not do you think that would be profitable?
I can sell you bulk aluminum sticks. 1/8 or 1/16 .5” x .5”, 1” x 1” or 2” x 2” angle, 1/8” flat bar stock, tubes, etc. 4 x 8 or 10 sheets of aluminum..
Thanks Michael. Helps a lot.
very nice video, congratulations from Brazil
I bought a 14 foot alumicraft Jon boat because of this. I just graduated and can afford a boat I just can’t get approved for a loan. I’m looking forward to the build. I’m new to boats and fishing all together. With zero experience. Any advice?
1 advice: don't get a loan for a boat. (Unless you're gonna live in it)
I love this video that itemizing the cost of an aluminum boat project.
I'm planning to do (my 1st) for fun. You said you don't like wood. Why? I've never used a rivet tool or worked with aluminum in the past. Honestly, it scares me a bit.
Thanks so much I needed this. Keep up the good work
I like your vids, and there's always ways to make things cheaper, but... I feel like the materials list is a little deceptive while your filming in front of the 4-5 grand in tools that you'd need to take on a project like this. I'm in the process of re-doing an 18' crestliner, and have fixed and redone many boats before so "we're in the same boat", lol. But yeah, if you're not redoing several boats or have many other uses for them, the tools alone can break the bank before you're even talking about materials.
Do you think you might be able to use aluminum studs used in home framing. Any thought of adding solar?
Thanks for the heads up brand new to this channel and i was wondering do you have any blue prints for builds or drawings? Thanks!
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Very cool video! Are you in or near California? Do you make boats to sell? Fish ready.
By the time you buy all the stuff and put all that time into it you can find a nice fiberglass bass boat for 2000-3000
Building a brand new boat completely custom to your needs is far more beneficial
World of difference though
Mike, where did you purchase your aluminum angle from? I just took delivery of a brand new Lowe L1652MT Jon and while I’m a bit loath to tear out the middle seat, I need to start building out the front deck.
that's without outboard motor rebuild.... but its worth it!! also have you ever looked into raptor liner? i did my 1/8 aluminum deck with raptor line 2 years ago and even in the fl heat loos as good as the day i put it on.
Would a 16 foot Lund with a cranking battery and a trolling motor battery be able to handle the weight?
Brand new to your channel and can't build a thing. Love to watch, though. What do you do with all these boats? I ask because I should be ready in the next year for this this step. Love to fish!
I’ve restored 4 and you can have $3-4 thousand spent in no time. Electronics, trolling motor, anything electrical will eat you alive. But when your done it’s paid for and if you sell it after using it for2-3 years more than likely you will at very least you will get your investment back and have a free boat to use in the mean time. You be been doing that for the las 20 years or so.
Do you leave it to the customer to find a motor? Or will you find one and go thru it and do anything it needs to run correct and install it or is that up to the customer ? I would only want the minimum HP to get the boat on plane and I’d only need tiller steer.I have no idea what a used dependable 10 or 20 HP tiller steer painted and installed by you would add to the high end $3500.00 price. Could you give me a ballpark?
Come out and fix mine up buddy... I’m in North Ga, 50miles north of Atlanta
I built a 14 foot all aluminum decking and new suzuki motor about 11.000....it can get expensive
Yes it can.
How many hours does the build take? Labor is worth $$$ it is not free. a person time is worth something, as an example how much do you charge in labor to someone to come to you to have it build.
I don’t build peoples crafts. I teach him how to build themselves to save $$$ on labor. Everyone wins!
What is your opinion of Rapala's Floating Aerator for $29 it will stay on continuously or the timer stays on 15 minutes.
Where are you located? And how long is the waiting list? I'm very interested in doing so to my 14fter!
How about fiberglass resin if you were to make a subfloor and resin it in?
Bass pro has a 6 gang panel with 7.5 amp fuses each switch
Tiny Boat Nation www.basspro.com/shop/en/bass-pro-shops-rocker-switch-panels?hvarAID=shopping_googleproductextensions&affcode_c=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI5MeZv9LT6gIV1MDICh1WVA-SEAQYASABEgLK2fD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
I want some decals!!!
What do you think of the composite non slip uv resistant waterproof decking?)
I rather wait for the perfect offer on a bigger boat got a 17 ft tracker bass boat 9.9 merc for 1800 guy just upgraded and didn't need it so save up and wait for the opportunity
Curtis Steel in Las Vegas had great prices on metal.
@@TinyBoatNation yes, I work with Tom Vanatta, he is a rep that I have worked with for years.
any thoughts in just aluminum welding
Where are u stationed out from or where do u do builds I might be interested
Your videos are outstanding..
I want that shirt.
Love your work. However, for the time, material and cost, I can buy a fully rigged out fishing boat that is lake ready and hit the water.
Not anymore you can’t
@@TinyBoatNation sorry but I beg to differ. Just picked up a 15’ Alumicraft with a brand new 4 stroke 20 hp Tohatsu for $3500. Lake ready, live well, 2 fish finders and trolling motor. People are going broke and selling. For those who are patient, they can find these deals……..
There is one area boat manufacturers are completely failing here in the PNW... And that is the extreme Multi-Species boat you can keep in your garage...
I'm looking for a 16ft boat almost identical to what you bought. Open floor plan, small front casting deck, tiller steer. It's going to be used for lakes and BIG rivers, Trolling, casting in one spot, and casting while trolling.
Currently the only options are no storage (like a stock jon-boat), a tiny amount of storage in a versatile hull (like I described above), a TON of storage (bass boat, that doesn't work well for salmon and ocean) and what I call "Columbia River boats" AKA: Great for trolling, crap for everything else. Big windscreens, enclosures, large boats, but doing anything other than trolling doesn't work well. But those are super popular around here...
So If I can get what I'm looking for, it's eventually going to get rebuilt with a much larger front deck, with much better storage hatch options, but still have the rear area flat and empty, for trolling. The combo of the 'bass boat front' and 'columbia river boat back' able to be stored in the garage, and also be able to bring 3-4 people along comfortably, is what is lacking... All of the manufacturers are half-assing that side of the market and it shows. I looked at dozens of boats at our sportsmans show last year, and the only ones with cool features had giant consoles and windshields in the way.
I get it, it rains here, but that's what raincoats are for. When it rains, it's windy, and your giant enclosure becomes a sail and the boat is uncontrollable.
Dude I feel you, I'm in lynden, whatcom county bellingham area. I built mine. Best decision I ever made. Cost was a little higher up here for my total build but I was more satisfied fishing bass than a coworker who bought a new bass tracker plus the ability to fish multi spiece. He has a payment mine is all mine.
@@danielandersen7887 I'm in Portland on the hunt right now.... I have one that I REALLY have my eye on, but the price is a tad out of my reach... Going to try to get him talked down a bit...
look at the Alumacraft open concept tillers, a smaller version of what Aaron Weibe of uncut angling uses
In the same boat here in Portland, I’m redoing an old 16ft mirrocraft, can’t quite copy all these “bass” boat conversions, but stealing great ideas to incorporate everything I need to chase the bass and the salmon and the Kokanee.
I restored a 16 ft Starcraft SuperSport, dual-console. Did it for around $1500, MAX. Got her in Hayden Lake, ID & had to completely re-floor her. Not as glitzed out as what these guys. I used plywood. I applied deck sealer 1st then put Harbor Freight truck bed liner on all sides of it. I reused the aluminum stringers but used 1" wood to aluminum screws and wide-capped (?) rivets from Tacoma Screws. After initially buying hardware, rivets & screws from Lowe's & Depot, I saved a good 1/3 the cost. I did mine with GREAT consideration to budget. This includes buying a 9.9 hp kicker as well as trolling motor tie rod to the main. PM me if you'd like to know more
What are the advantages of building your own tiny boat vs buying a bass boat?
How much for the exact decals. If you dint know don’t worry about it
Are these prices similar today or are we looking 40% higher like the rest of the economy?
40% on most things, but not all
@@TinyBoatNation thought so.
I sent you guys a email a couple years ago about a tracker I bought that I want to rebuild. I got busy and haven’t started it yet but I think this winter it’s going to happen. I’ve only ever had small 12 and 14 foot Jon boats and am not too experienced with electrical or really tech at all on a boat, never even had a steering wheel but I bought an 89 tournament Tx for 3 grand and it’s been mistreated by the last owner so I’m suspicious that I’ll need to re-foam it because it was left outside uncovered in Washington state and the deck is in bad shape. I can only assume there’s wet foam in there.
If the framing is still decent and all I really want to do is add a rod locker are you guys able to help me out with a consult on the rebuild? I’m sure there will be a cost and I’ll buy a lot of stuff from your site but I just want to make sure this is a project I can handle before I go crazy.
What’s the best way to start the process.
It bothers me that the logo on his shirt is backwards but great video
Awesome video
Boat weight before and after?
My missing rivets (below the water line) have a 1/4” hole. Do I need 1/4” rivet or can I fill them with a 3/16”??
Tiny Boat Nation I couldn’t find them on your Amazon store. Only saw the 3/16.
thanks for the info brotha i was wondering what it would cost to do this, Would you consider traveling to help me with mine?
@@TinyBoatNation I had to ask bro lol
Any profit in the resell?
Thank you very appreciated
Do you make boats for customers?
Thinking about doing this to my 14’ Aluminum duroboat. My question is, do I need a welder for any part of it?
no you shouldn't. Aluminum creates a toxic gas that is deadly when welded on so i wouldn't try it unless you're an experienced welder with good ventilation and a respirator. Typically speaking aluminum is the best method to use because its easy to work with, very lightweight, and won't rust like other metals.
Rivets are the key
Could you use a wooden subfloor and vert supports and aluminum angle for the top framing?
Keep grinding buddy you help us all out
Damn good video. Wish I could do all that. Seems really hard to pull off.
It’s not that hard to pull off,it just takes time and money.I just restored a 1986 18’ Alumicraft. It cost $3,000+ and took me 3 months to do. I did it all my self,except for the wrap I put on it and my wife helped with that. I had over $300 in paint and primer alone.And I restored the trailer too. It gets a lot of compliments and offers to buy it off of me. Give it a go. Electronic are the most costly thing. I have $800 in a new trolling motor and 2 Garmin striker 4plus cv units. It’s a
Big commitment. It’s my4th restoration. If I can do it
Anyone can. I see so many project boats for sale online that people say they lost interest in it’s unreal. I thank they got into it and realized that this is not going to be easy and it’s going to cost lots of money or they don’t have the skills to complete it so they sell it.
What’s the reason for v bottoms how do they do on the water vs flat bottom
I'm sure his video will be great, but for a short answer: V-bottom takes rough water better, flat bottom has a shallower draft (distance between the waterline and the bottom of the boat.) It's kind of a moot issue when you're talking about "tiny boats" because you're not going to want something under 14 foot in anything approaching 2' swells regardless of the hull design. But if you're in 1' swells, the v-hull is going to slice through the crest of the waves so that your ride is more comfortable, while a flat bottom will "slap" against the crest of every wave jarring both the passengers and the hull alike. On the flip side, I had a 14' flat bottom with a 25 hp outboard that I could navigate in 3-4" of water, where a comparable v-hull you'd be looking at a lot closer to needing a foot of water. Just like everything else in life, its a trade off. There's plenty other finer points of load displacement and functionality, but that's the primary difference before you start getting into the smaller details. It's all about your personal preference and how you like to fish.
@@squatchymcsquatchsquatch3015 well said
Do you take orders for boats ??
absolute legend
use aliexpress and you will save a few $100s
Why do you need to foam the boat"?
Check McMaster Carr for some of these, the 1.5 x 1.5 x 1/16 aluminum angles only come in 8ft lengths for 16.21 a bar. www.mcmaster.com/aluminum-l-channels/wall-thickness~0-0625inches/outside-height~1-5inches/outside-width~1-5inches/
I can't find angle for anywhere near 22$ for 16' I have looked everywhere. its gonna cost me 400$ for aluminum alone
400 for all the subflooring and hatches sounds about right
@@Uknowjusticemill my estimate wasn't including the wood, rip. plus im gonna have to drive to Connecticut bc I can't find a supplier nearby.
@@johnsemar107 yea and all other cost included they all just keep coming, it's worth it to get it from a metal shop most likely cheaper than regular hardware stores.
@@Uknowjusticemill gonna be expensive...
I just started a 14’ Lowe and just sanding and painting and doing my aluminum decking and then buying plywood and sealant I can say holy cow it’s more than I thought lol. Oh yeah I just bought my seats and pedestal too.
where are you located?
North east ohio
@@csmith0244 ah ok im in se pa
TQ,, this video Brother 🙏👍👍
Holy cow. Market place bound lol
I attempted cutting wood for my 14’ deep vhull today. Let’s just say the plywood I was cutting for my deck it ruined .. what’s the best way to mark my ply wood for the bow? I’m not going to lie , I got pretty discouraged . Please any tips are greatly appreciated
Do you sale the boats
Need your opinion, is this set up good for sailing to shore? Everybody knows one of the richest fish resources are in the rivermouth to the sea, will the alu frame stand with corrosion? Yes, i know these boats are not boston whaler, but not everyone can affort a boston whaler. Your boats are direct competition with those foot peddle kayaks. Man, those plastic kayak are expensive. In my opinion, overprice.
Are you using 6061 or 6063 aluminum?
6063 is stronger right (structural)? I know you can bend architectural tho
edit 6061 is structural and it is stronger, 6063 is architectural and is able to bend but not as strong
why is 1/16 twice as much as 1/8?
@Bennybass it costs twice as much for 1/16
Have you tried metaldepot.com or buymetal.com for aluminum.
@@TinyBoatNation check them out may have some stuff you can buy in bulk which ussually discounts most things. Hope it helps. Wish I could do one of these builds but I simply will never have the time. Mine will most likely be done with cedar framing.
EASTERN ALUMINUM SUPPY!!!!!!
Why not wood?
Tiny Boat Nation still works for good amount of time though, correct?
would you ever build a boat for someone ?
Why not just buy a good used boat set up the way you want it?
What’s your coast to build me a boat?
On season 4 of Ozark...
im happy with my 17ft bass boat i got for 5000 with a 135hp motor lol and rigged with everything needed
Got to pay to play
Helpful, and a giant pitch for your Amazon store. Lame.
Dude I hunted for months trying to get cheaper than his store. Did on a few things, they failed within weeks. His store might make him money but anything you find cheaper the quality is so fucked you'll spend more replacing. Mike really has the best value to dollar in his "store". Like crackhead hours of deal finding. Go ahead spend 3 hours finding a better deal. Or take 5 mins to fact check his "store" realize only 60 day delivery Chinese junk is cheaper and use his free guide to get the shit that works.
and just like that i no longer want to build one.
Are you going to sell me a boat or not?
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