i find that the traditional drift is easier, when i first picked up racing on say the togue in fh5 or GT i would drift the corners alot but as i got better i learned the "no counter steer drift" or the "slip angle" which are faster but much more technical in a way. my preferred method is the power slide or slip angle much more predictable but still flashy.
4 wheel drift is faster only if you have enough speed If you get out of the slow corner the next one must be done with grip Thats why i somehow knew as a kid that chicane entry should be drifted on first corner and gripped on second (natural instinct of physics laws and other things) as a kid i was smart unlike now
I made this video years ago, and its really really bad lol. Im surprised anyone even watched it. If anyone reads this, I wanna try to explain it better since at the time I kinda didnt know what I was talking about The four wheel drift that everyone’s obsessed about thats talked about in initial d is just the result of a very small slip angle(the rear wheels are skidding out juuuust a half dozen degrees about.) You can see top drivers in formula 1 do this if you look suuuuper closely. When you slip ever so slightly, the car gets the best of both worlds, because the distribution of the weight is still stable, but it also gets a bit of that edge that drifting gives you which is extra rotation. Its not necessarily faster but the added rotation can mean the difference in acceleration upon the exit of the corner. But still, the advantage you get is so slight and the level of accuracy and dexterity required is usually too high to pull off consistently, not to mention the extra tire wear. its just not really worth it. But calling it a four wheel drift is kinda just wrong lol. Its not like the front treads are skidding. If they were you would understeer, so the correct terminology in my opinion is micro drift, or between grip and drift.
Slip angle is not a technique. If I remember right, it’s more accurately a way to describe how big your drift angle is. For an example, you could say that a car has 20 degrees of slip angle, which means the rear tires are sliding outwards from the direction of travel by 20 degrees.
Its strange to explain writting... Are two ways: 1 you brake until get drift angle and then you put wheel at "zero" and accel 2. You wait, after start a drift you don't brake and don't accelerate then if you do it correctly The drift gonna stabilizate and you can accel with zero countersteer
No es asi, los 4WD si pueden derrapar solo que se debe ir muy rapido y ser bueno para lograrlo Puedes ver a Tsuchiya derrapando un WRX stock sin freno de mano en youtube (control de traccion y estabilidad activados) Por ultimo, el coche en pantalla no es un 4WD es un FR y el término "Four Wheel Drift" significa derrape de cuatro neumaticos El mismo hace referencia a que el derrape (sobreviraje) es acompañado por la parte delantera (subviraje) y que por ende no se debe hacer ningun contravolanteo pese a que el auto gane buen angulo
too many factors to say one is outright faster, but grip is more consistent and better for longer races whereas drifting is risky and is only faster when u have a really good grasp of ur cars abilities and the course in question not to mention how it destroys ur tires in comparison to grip basically u need a car made for keeping speed through a drift and an extremely refined technique to go faster than grip, in addition it's only useful in low speed areas with consecutive corners and a low average speed in comparison to circuit.
@mineralmineral9906 drifting is literally slower in most cases, it's been proven time and time again it doesn't have to do with consistency or anything like that, it has to do with friction. When you drift, you're trying to lose grip and slide. That is slower. Full stop
4-wheel drift just screams old school racing, so satisfying when you get it right.
i find that the traditional drift is easier, when i first picked up racing on say the togue in fh5 or GT i would drift the corners alot but as i got better i learned the "no counter steer drift" or the "slip angle" which are faster but much more technical in a way. my preferred method is the power slide or slip angle much more predictable but still flashy.
4 wheel drift is faster only if you have enough speed
If you get out of the slow corner the next one must be done with grip
Thats why i somehow knew as a kid that chicane entry should be drifted on first corner and gripped on second (natural instinct of physics laws and other things) as a kid i was smart unlike now
Slip angle isnt 4 wheel drift, its just the deformation on the tyres caused by driving on the limit, 4 wheel drift is over the limit of the tyres
@@am_sousa2246 yeh yt has a video talked about this in regards to initial d iirc
@@zan7838 that sim racing bloke just didnt explain it correctly lol
4 wheel drift is the fastest way of cornering but it burns tires if overused
not like that, too much angle
Not to mention 4 wheel drifts are only optimal in low grip situations
@@ichimoku373 and in harpins, basically a 4 wheel drift is the fastest way to corner if cornering normally would mean understeer
@@RogueBeatsARGYeah none of these corners shown were optimal for a four wheel drift
@@RogueBeatsARG thats what makes it fast, lets your car perform a full body brake
The first turn was pretty smooth
The last turn was even better
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fwd now feels like part of the community
Four wheel drift doesn't have to be 0 counter steer but it can be
I made this video years ago, and its really really bad lol. Im surprised anyone even watched it. If anyone reads this, I wanna try to explain it better since at the time I kinda didnt know what I was talking about
The four wheel drift that everyone’s obsessed about thats talked about in initial d is just the result of a very small slip angle(the rear wheels are skidding out juuuust a half dozen degrees about.) You can see top drivers in formula 1 do this if you look suuuuper closely.
When you slip ever so slightly, the car gets the best of both worlds, because the distribution of the weight is still stable, but it also gets a bit of that edge that drifting gives you which is extra rotation. Its not necessarily faster but the added rotation can mean the difference in acceleration upon the exit of the corner. But still, the advantage you get is so slight and the level of accuracy and dexterity required is usually too high to pull off consistently, not to mention the extra tire wear. its just not really worth it.
But calling it a four wheel drift is kinda just wrong lol. Its not like the front treads are skidding. If they were you would understeer, so the correct terminology in my opinion is micro drift, or between grip and drift.
Actually Slip angle I think
Slip angle is not a technique. If I remember right, it’s more accurately a way to describe how big your drift angle is. For an example, you could say that a car has 20 degrees of slip angle, which means the rear tires are sliding outwards from the direction of travel by 20 degrees.
I almost thought it was awd at the first corner tbh
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How do i do 4 wheel drift in gt7?
Its strange to explain writting...
Are two ways: 1 you brake until get drift angle and then you put wheel at "zero" and accel
2. You wait, after start a drift you don't brake and don't accelerate then if you do it correctly
The drift gonna stabilizate and you can accel with zero countersteer
Un 4WD no derrapa... se desliza
No es asi, los 4WD si pueden derrapar solo que se debe ir muy rapido y ser bueno para lograrlo
Puedes ver a Tsuchiya derrapando un WRX stock sin freno de mano en youtube (control de traccion y estabilidad activados)
Por ultimo, el coche en pantalla no es un 4WD es un FR y el término "Four Wheel Drift" significa derrape de cuatro neumaticos
El mismo hace referencia a que el derrape (sobreviraje) es acompañado por la parte delantera (subviraje) y que por ende no se debe hacer ningun contravolanteo pese a que el auto gane buen angulo
they wont listen...
And they're both slower than grip so 🤷♂️
It’s rare but drifting is faster than grip in some cases
@@Stall_Studios in this case they're slower. Drifting is faster on mainly loose surfaces and it depends on the type of corner
@@NGKGMR it's really all about the corner, but yes mainly loose surfaces or hazardous conditions such as rain or snow.
too many factors to say one is outright faster, but grip is more consistent and better for longer races whereas drifting is risky and is only faster when u have a really good grasp of ur cars abilities and the course in question not to mention how it destroys ur tires in comparison to grip
basically u need a car made for keeping speed through a drift and an extremely refined technique to go faster than grip, in addition it's only useful in low speed areas with consecutive corners and a low average speed in comparison to circuit.
@mineralmineral9906 drifting is literally slower in most cases, it's been proven time and time again it doesn't have to do with consistency or anything like that, it has to do with friction. When you drift, you're trying to lose grip and slide. That is slower. Full stop