AWD vs RWD vs FWD - Which is the Best for Touge?

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    Front Wheel Drive, Rear Wheel Drive or All Wheel Drive. Which is best for the touge? In this video, we’re going to be discussing how each differs, and how to use each one properly. So, make sure you stay tuned because, you won’t want to miss out on this one.
    So, let’s start with the classic layout of engine in the front, and power in the back. This makes rear wheel drive cars well balanced in terms of weight. Making this configuration ideal for conventional performance driving. Front engined, rear wheel driven cars, also known as FRs accelerate out of corners naturally, transferring weight to the driven wheels in the back, improving traction as we step on the accelerator out of a corner.
    However, with FRs, or most other rear wheel driven configurations such as Front Mid Engined FMR, or Rear Mid Engined RMR, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows. Typically, but not always, a small amount of power out of the causes a light front end, inducing understeer. And, a lot of power causes oversteer, also known as wheelspin. But that’s not all. If you suddenly lift off the throttle whilst accelerating and turning, you will cause lift off oversteer. Finally, a bad downshift, or a money shift will cause the rears to massively decrease in speed or even lock up. And in turn, you will most likely experience a terrifying spin. If you’re not driving a FR, but an FMR OR RMR, the likelihood of all of this happening will increase dramatically, as the engine being placed farther back, only moves the centre of gravity rearwards, making the car even more unbalanced through corners.
    But, despite Rear Wheel Drive’s many risks, they’re mostly forgivable for the fact that rear wheel drive allows some classic power oversteer and drifting. However, many skilled drivers are also able to use rear wheel drive’s downfalls such as lift off oversteer or money shifting to their advantage.
    Now let’s move on to the most popular drivetrain on the planet. Front wheel drive. But if rear wheel drive is deemed to be the be all and end all of a proper driver’s car, then why is front wheel drive so popular? Well, to put it simply, it’s vastly more simple, and ultimately cost effective to build. But also, with front wheel drive, a powertrain isn’t invading the cabin, giving you more room for activities in a small form factor car.
    Front wheel drive’s biggest advantage is the fact that the car is being pulled instead of pushed around a corner which results in a much tighter turning circle. This means front wheel drive cars can take those tight corners much more efficiently. Additionally, they won’t need to worry about oversteer on the exit of corners. Even if a front wheel driven car does oversteer, all you need to do is full throttle and the rear tyres will fall back into line instantly.
    Not only this, but the powertrain is mounted directly above the front wheels, giving better traction in wet conditions. But, as will rear wheel drive, it’s not perfect, at all. Front wheel drive can really hinder even a decent driver’s pursuit of a quick touge time. Those poor front tyres have got to do almost everything. They accelerate, steer and do most of the braking at the same time. When two tyres are asked to do too much, they typically fail. Tyres only have a certain amount of grip. When you accelerate, turn and brake, a chunk of that grip is taken away. So, when the front tyres have to have all three actions to content with, it’s extremely easier to hit the limit of grip. So, if you want to trail brake into a corner, which requires both braking and steering at the same time, you have to be very cautious to not overstress the tyres and enter understeer. The same applies with accelerating out of a corner, or any combination of accelerating, steering and braking.
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  • @lon3lyRacer
    @lon3lyRacer 2 года назад +1113

    "High power turbo and all wheel drive, a car isn't complete without them"
    -Kyoichi Sudo

    • @sooryan_1018
      @sooryan_1018 2 года назад +244

      And yes, don't forget the infamous...
      *𝙈 𝙄 𝙎 𝙁 𝘼 𝙄 𝙍 𝙄 𝙉 𝙂 𝙐 𝙎 𝙃 𝙔 𝙎 𝙏 𝙀 𝙈*

    • @thebigboybossy4232
      @thebigboybossy4232 2 года назад +47

      Kyoichi based

    • @sooryan_1018
      @sooryan_1018 2 года назад +12

      @@thebigboybossy4232 gigachad

    • @caralho5237
      @caralho5237 2 года назад +57

      Add a v12 on the list and you've got a forza horizon car tuned by an 8 year old

    • @wann_skyzz..
      @wann_skyzz.. 2 года назад

      bruh

  • @Dominik189
    @Dominik189 2 года назад +1143

    Yes technically AWD is best on Touge in theory. The thing is that it all really depends on the Touge you're driving.

    • @stephgunther3879
      @stephgunther3879 2 года назад +71

      and the driver

    • @cmbaileytstc
      @cmbaileytstc 2 года назад +14

      On dry pavement?

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 2 года назад +132

      @@cmbaileytstc yes, even on dry pavement. A super technical Touge with very short straights and very few longer open corners and a lot of hairpins and S bends will always favor a RWD. One with more longer corners and few hairpins favours AWD. One that's fairly flap with not too much elevation change and mostly S bends with few hairpins and not that many longer corners favours FWD.

    • @jordanrobshaw1406
      @jordanrobshaw1406 2 года назад +9

      @@Dominik189 yes you are right

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 2 года назад +8

      @Cringe Department sort of, slightly more to it but yeah.

  • @CrowJam
    @CrowJam 2 года назад +282

    I was always the fastest with FWD when playing on a joystick, since you gotta be so aggressive at the turn in, just set the rear bias quite high to help with understeer

    • @NicoKyunKyun
      @NicoKyunKyun 2 года назад +28

      and everyone would say you're using driver assist on max when you tell you're using controller 😂

    • @CH1K3N99
      @CH1K3N99 2 года назад +10

      @@NicoKyunKyun indeed!

    • @xyihhz4262
      @xyihhz4262 2 года назад +1

      @@NicoKyunKyun hmmm

  • @ichiroudesu_.
    @ichiroudesu_. 2 года назад +192

    "Drifting in a traditional sense is impossible in a FWD car"
    Shingo disagreed with that.

    • @i.akbaranshari5850
      @i.akbaranshari5850 2 года назад +18

      After accidentally drifted my parent's car in a wet condition, I'm still wondering how tf did he drift in such dry condition, especialy in those tight corners

    • @ichiroudesu_.
      @ichiroudesu_. 2 года назад +23

      ​@@i.akbaranshari5850 Rip that ebrake, point in the direction you wanna go and floor it! I mean you saw how he did it lol. It also depends on if your FWD vehicle even can do a burnout on dry pavement. an LSD and good torque will make it easier.

    • @mr.fingerwithasmileyface3584
      @mr.fingerwithasmileyface3584 2 года назад +3

      @@i.akbaranshari5850 I'm not a car expert but I can assume that the light weight of civics and the tourqe of vtec really depends

    • @TheXtremeSS
      @TheXtremeSS 2 года назад +13

      @@i.akbaranshari5850 It's not like all FF cars just understeer. Old french hothatches tend to lift off oversteer very easily, to the point where you simply let the rear slide a bit on corner entrance and then step on the gas sooner. No need for ebrake. At the same time with lift off, you can just control the rear slip with the throttle mid corner. Even on the dry.

    • @vilonis2638
      @vilonis2638 2 года назад +2

      Tomoyuki too

  • @Alicia-kd6vv
    @Alicia-kd6vv 2 года назад +143

    I grew up in FWD, it can be super fun, also good for low grip roads or dirt.

    • @NicoKyunKyun
      @NicoKyunKyun 2 года назад +12

      not much people say FWD is fun, you're rare

    • @CH1K3N99
      @CH1K3N99 2 года назад +49

      @@NicoKyunKyun not many people are individuals, but followers!

    • @kotarojujo2737
      @kotarojujo2737 2 года назад +34

      @@NicoKyunKyun depends on what car. Any hot hatches FWD should be more fun than any base model RWD mercedes saloon

    • @MiguelMedV
      @MiguelMedV 2 года назад +1

      @@kotarojujo2737 Well that's true XD...

    • @timbuktu4235
      @timbuktu4235 2 года назад +4

      Fwd is so easy to drive hard, finding balance on loose surface is much more safe than in rwd or awd.

  • @Phoenix-sk8yy
    @Phoenix-sk8yy 2 года назад +232

    AWD with 85% of the power being sent to the rear and 15% to the front is the life

    • @JosesitoSaldivia
      @JosesitoSaldivia 2 года назад +2

      50:50 tho, is just fun

    • @producer.james1
      @producer.james1 2 года назад +18

      I find 20/80 is good for me. Depends on driver sometimes

    • @h5skb4ru41
      @h5skb4ru41 2 года назад +16

      35/65 for me, the best balance in a power oriented build for cornering

    • @elda7153
      @elda7153 2 года назад +11

      @@JosesitoSaldivia 50/50 is great. My irl GC8 is 50/50, and is an absolute blast to drive. And fun when you stop on some dirt, lock the steering right, rev up and clutch dump in 1st ;)

    • @tatacraft791
      @tatacraft791 2 года назад

      70-75% rear is better

  • @munmunyee
    @munmunyee Год назад +21

    FWD is surprisingly good on downhill-focused, technical tracks. Happo out and Tsukuba both come to mind.

  • @venominonbg1740
    @venominonbg1740 2 года назад +536

    I've always found the differences between drivetrains intriguing. Personally I prefer RWD cars the most as they are silly fun and quirky to drive. My experience is that RWD often performs better while cornering (either that or I am a natural talent) and quick directional changes, while AWD has unbeatable acceleration and exit speed. I've driven FWDs the least, but I've noticed they're super easy to push to the limit and often tend to be lighter than cars in the same power range. Curious what anyone else can add to the topic.

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад +72

      Front wheel drives are largely set up for economy and comfort - whereas contemporary RWD are usually performance cars.
      If FWD is set up properly The difference in lateral grip is minimal - it's just that you're usually less able to use throttle while turning.

    • @darkinators
      @darkinators 2 года назад +56

      "or I am a natural talent" no, no you're not

    • @jamppa4693
      @jamppa4693 2 года назад +62

      @@darkinators you never know ;)

    • @recarsion
      @recarsion 2 года назад +26

      FWD can be insanely fun imo. The Peugeot 306 Maxi is one of my favorite cars on Dirt Rally.

    • @jordanrobshaw1406
      @jordanrobshaw1406 2 года назад +2

      @@christopherjohnston6343 that makes you slower lol

  • @kisbalintkirill4443
    @kisbalintkirill4443 2 года назад +276

    From history, the Group B Lancia 037 was faster (which was RWD) than the Audi Quattro in tarmac rally stages due to its lightweight chassis and better weight distribution and because losing traction in tarmac wasn't really an issue. Everywhere else on loose surfaces the Quattro was faster.

    • @darkrage1138
      @darkrage1138 2 года назад +58

      That was old AWD, more modern AWD have significantly better systems.
      I'm a fan of RWD myself, but a well tuned AWD is almost always an advantage. The logical argument basically being that you can always tune an AWD to be more similar to a RWD, but you can't ever get a RWD to have that front tire pull.

    • @kisbalintkirill4443
      @kisbalintkirill4443 2 года назад +8

      @@darkrage1138 Yeah i know that. What i wanted to say is that its more car dependant. If a FWD is more balanced and overall lighter then it should be faster than an older and heavier AWD. But yeah AWD can be the fastest overall. There's a reason why every rallycar is AWD for 30 years.

    • @emmanuelperrina6105
      @emmanuelperrina6105 2 года назад +1

      @@darkrage1138 but the car will be heavier

    • @darkrage1138
      @darkrage1138 2 года назад +11

      @@emmanuelperrina6105 Yea of course it will, but that majority of the time the advantage of AWD will beat out the disadvantages of some weight gain.

    • @kisbalintkirill4443
      @kisbalintkirill4443 2 года назад +1

      @YMC-DAB420 On some events yeah, but they didn't have to cheat on tarmac stages.

  • @mooker93
    @mooker93 2 года назад +64

    Fwd all day. You can mitigate most all the negative aspects with suspension mods and alignment. Use its properties to get a better turn and control.

    • @StuTubed
      @StuTubed 2 года назад +14

      Agreed, stiffer rear suspension and an LSD up front help with a lot of the drawbacks of FWD cars. They're just not set up that way on most cars because they're an unnecessary expense for a mass-market production car.

    • @gameonyolo1
      @gameonyolo1 2 года назад

      1. Inherently less traction. So rain, snow, bad surface.
      2. The car can't yaw under power, that can be fixed tho in many ways.

    • @gameonyolo1
      @gameonyolo1 2 года назад

      1. Inherently less traction. So rain, snow, bad surface.
      2. The car can't yaw under power, that can be fixed tho in many ways.

    • @juliuspaolocabarles9941
      @juliuspaolocabarles9941 2 года назад

      Donut???

    • @Tromsci
      @Tromsci 2 года назад +6

      I drive an FF with a torque vectoring diff and I’m pull through and exit corners faster than the AWD cars I’ve raced 😄

  • @christopher_s_25
    @christopher_s_25 2 года назад +21

    Let's not forget the Impreza, AWD with a longitudinal boxer engine, which allows the car to behave more like a RWD (yes it can drift) and have better front-to-rear weight distribution.

    • @garrettmcguire6864
      @garrettmcguire6864 2 года назад +2

      What year Impreza specifically, because I'm interested.

    • @christopher_s_25
      @christopher_s_25 2 года назад +8

      @@garrettmcguire6864 any year really, every AWD (yes there are some older FWD ones, but not so common) impreza has a longitudinal boxer engine. The only difference is between GC (92-00) and the rest (GD, etc. 01-present). The GC is lightweight (~1200Kg) and flexible, while the newer ones are heavier (~1350-1400Kg), wider and stiffer, with improved suspension.

    • @kemurikusari9629
      @kemurikusari9629 2 года назад +1

      @@garrettmcguire6864 every subi with a manual dccd has more torque to the rear tgen to the front (i got a 1998 sti type r v4 and it has 35:65 distrobution while a regular sti is 50:50 and yeah the rear wants to step out alot)

  • @SRK_223
    @SRK_223 2 года назад +18

    4:23 That is one fantastic example mate, I always do that whenever I'm in a supermarket 😂💙

  • @johnxina2140
    @johnxina2140 2 года назад +80

    It totally depends on the touge and the cars, I'm fastest down most roads in an aw11 mr2, even though something like an evo5 is technically way faster

    • @georgeb5262
      @georgeb5262 2 года назад +7

      Also driving style.

    • @johnxina2140
      @johnxina2140 2 года назад +1

      @@georgeb5262 Yee, very true

    • @istachi
      @istachi 2 года назад +2

      Just download a 900hp mod with a shit ton of grip and it'll break records

    • @johnxina2140
      @johnxina2140 2 года назад +1

      @@istachi I've put slick tires on a couple of cars and have had them go mental fast, I put a spoon b18b in an Nd Miata with the cup car slicks on it, and it's one of the most fun and fast things I've driven in ac

    • @beautifulbeaner
      @beautifulbeaner 2 года назад

      @@istachi probably because it has arcade physics so it’s not realistic

  • @ericskullbunny6031
    @ericskullbunny6031 2 года назад +19

    I would love to see all at the same time with their fastest runs. Next to each other or all ghosts from above in one view. To really see the diffrence

  • @driftbroz8744
    @driftbroz8744 2 года назад

    Nice bro very comprehensive. Glad you touched on midships and power splits in AWD

  • @rallymana4873
    @rallymana4873 2 года назад +17

    I think the best drivetrain is up to the driver’s preferences
    In my case, It would either be awd or rwd, just because I don’t like how fwd cars handle

  • @mohe81
    @mohe81 Год назад +1

    The visualization with the tires as pi diagram is the best one I have ever seen for that issue. I will always explain it that way from now on.

  • @randomhondaeg6sirii486
    @randomhondaeg6sirii486 2 года назад +7

    Great detailed and informative video

  • @hydro5168
    @hydro5168 2 года назад +2

    I was always most comfortable in an NSX, when my PC still worked I had an NSX-R NA2 and that one from Initial D and I always felt they were just absolute perfection to drive

  • @Cr4z3d
    @Cr4z3d 2 года назад +26

    Thanks for explaining the difference between 4WD and AWD, that had never been fully clear to me.

    • @ronnieries8841
      @ronnieries8841 2 года назад +6

      All wheels all the time 😈

    • @michaelg6181
      @michaelg6181 Год назад +1

      I forgot which is which but one all the tires spin even if one was in the air. And the other will put less power to the tired as they lose traction.

    • @Cr4z3d
      @Cr4z3d Год назад

      @@michaelg6181 #1 is AWD and #2 is 4WD

  • @DeathMetalAsian
    @DeathMetalAsian 2 года назад +6

    On a sim setup I prefer fwd. Especially if it’s a course I know fairly well. The ability to manipulate off throttle/braking oversteer as well as the ability to correct somewhat reliably make it my favorite for this kind of stuff

  • @n3ttx580
    @n3ttx580 2 года назад +7

    I have a Civic IRL (not type R, but still) and I absolutely love how that thing handles. For the 2 and something years I own it, i went into understeer only a few times, and always succesfully recovered, thanks to driving it it AC. FF IMO is the superior drivetrain, if you know how to corner properly and how to manage tire wear. It's easy to have front tires at 180°C 3 minutes into Usui pass. Also recently, I've began to play with AWD cars (22B Impreza), and I love how easy drifting is with them. If you mess something up, just turn the other way and press gas. Maintaining drift is also very nice and natural for me. That cannot be said for RWD cars tho, honestly I have no idea how can anyone drive them aggressively. They oversteer way too much and controlling anything more than driving in a straight line is next to impossible.
    For togues (subjectively), AWD is the most fun. You can drift and control it easily, but also go grippy as hell and have nice times. FWD is when you want to have fun around corners at high speeds and feel the lateral G's.

    • @youraveragegamer8832
      @youraveragegamer8832 11 месяцев назад +1

      Rwd takes a lot of practice and extremely sensitive throttle control. If you start to skid you either let off the gas or drift or scandi flick. Basically when your car is pointed in the direction you want to go but you have a few seconds before the yiu reach the desired exit point, you start pressing the throttle. The amount of throttle depends on your speed and angle and stuff, and you will spin out a lot while practicing. A lot.

  • @yeehongho9912
    @yeehongho9912 2 года назад +7

    4wd + perfect tuning to behave like rwd. Should be fun with this setting.

  • @RyuKyu316
    @RyuKyu316 2 года назад +8

    Great vid man. Glad to see you used the cars I sent to you for this vid.

    • @ymb9shinzou743
      @ymb9shinzou743 2 года назад

      Nice! Is your car setup by default for touge, and would you have any tuning setups or suggestions for the lower power AE86 and tuned versions? I really wanna practice getting good at this but the tuning of the car is incredibly intimidating to a neophyte.

    • @pavelmatusu4457
      @pavelmatusu4457 Месяц назад +1

      i found out that he copied this 7 years old video almost word for word and didnt even mention it :(, when I randomly watched it it thought I had deja vu.
      ruclips.net/video/C4hv78vtBxM/видео.html&ab_channel=MotorTrendChannel

    • @RyuKyu316
      @RyuKyu316 Месяц назад +1

      @@pavelmatusu4457 wtf I didn't know tbh. I just provided replays cars and stuff.🤣🤣

    • @pavelmatusu4457
      @pavelmatusu4457 Месяц назад +1

      @@RyuKyu316 Well I dont blame you for anything. Tbh I just wanted to share this with someone becouse I have not seen anybody talking about it, and it seemed really scummy to me.
      And its no big deal, TSRB was much smaller 2y ago and theese guys he copied from have like 14 times more subs even now.

    • @RyuKyu316
      @RyuKyu316 Месяц назад +1

      @pavelmatusu4457 yeah no prob man I too now see the deja vu and not daijobu🤣

  • @staskaras6773
    @staskaras6773 2 года назад

    Well delivered information, Basic but yet important for becoming a better driver

  • @shiroimitsune7314
    @shiroimitsune7314 2 года назад

    I'm now enlightened how to handle AWD better. Thanks very much

  • @naufalfaiz322
    @naufalfaiz322 2 года назад +3

    i love how takumi is driving the 86

  • @Joe-xr2xl
    @Joe-xr2xl 2 года назад +5

    Forza had a great graphic to show tire grip on a car. It was a circle for each tire and a dot showing the amount of work the tire does. If the dot goes outside then the cars tires loose grip.

    • @KurianfromIndia
      @KurianfromIndia 2 года назад

      Assetto corsa is better

    • @anthonyquattro584
      @anthonyquattro584 2 года назад +1

      I agree that was a great graphic to show the tires peak grip

    • @RhodokTribesman
      @RhodokTribesman 2 года назад

      Out of the simcade games, Gran Turismo 4 simulates understeer and weight transfer pretty damn well

    • @growingup4487
      @growingup4487 10 месяцев назад

      true but in forza you don't lose grip braking and steering at the same time unlike real life

    • @sav7123
      @sav7123 6 месяцев назад

      @@growingup4487what ? Yes you do I’ve lost the rear under braking so many times at the final corner of yas marina

  • @CH1K3N99
    @CH1K3N99 2 года назад +6

    Where's MRD & RRD?
    And your FWD first section is mostly about differentials, but I think it's really well explained,

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  2 года назад +5

      I assume you mean mid rear and rear rear. Those were covered in the video and are called FMR and RMR

    • @CH1K3N99
      @CH1K3N99 2 года назад +2

      @@TSRB nice, i'll have to check it out!

    • @sparkster_6087
      @sparkster_6087 2 месяца назад

      @@TSRB yeah but you missed the advantages of them...
      they also drive completely different to a fr car

  • @JustPlaneHistory
    @JustPlaneHistory 2 года назад +1

    Good vid!

  • @GRMLN5221
    @GRMLN5221 2 года назад +3

    If you use throttle lift off and using your brakes to transfer weight and try to kick out your back end you can sort of slide a fwd car and that might help you not under steer which might happen when stepping on it. You just kinda have to learn from shingo and use that slide to your advantage

    • @Biriadan
      @Biriadan Год назад +1

      Or you can just left foot brake.
      Throttle and brakes reduce the braking force on the front wheel but not the back, allowing brake bias to be shifted to the back on demand and allowing very controllable oversteer.

  • @shmoop357
    @shmoop357 2 года назад +4

    honestly i love driving every single one of them for their own reasons

  • @Ciberpotato
    @Ciberpotato 2 года назад +3

    Gran turismo fans when they see a yellow evo 😳

  • @westcoastrenegade8594
    @westcoastrenegade8594 2 года назад +3

    I love my 02 Impreza RS (full engine rebuild and modification) there's nothing that can beat the cornering and bottom end torque on that thing.

  • @ethanl524
    @ethanl524 11 месяцев назад +1

    Maybe it’s just cause I drive fwd in real life, but I’ve always found fwd the easiest to visualize weight transfer and easiest to learn

  • @kxrxkt6741
    @kxrxkt6741 2 года назад +1

    One missing thing is the best lap times of drivers preferring each drivetrain

  • @ScreamoCat
    @ScreamoCat 2 года назад +1

    Someone who's driven all and irl, not in assetto on a wheel, most of the touge cars (that do well) are fwd and rarely awd but they're out there, on a touge though, that Honda fit or mazda 3 hatch is going to leave your 350z behind, simply because they're kids that go out to these roads to run them every night, also- 2500lbs vs 3500 lbs makes a big difference in handling/braking/and acceleration

  • @nathanglynn7443
    @nathanglynn7443 2 года назад

    When I first got into cars and I mean really got into them (I dabbled as a kid but I didn't know much besides the looks of different cars) Tokyo drift was out in the cinema. FF layouts were talked down like crazy. You couldn't be a car guy unless your car was manual and rwd. Nowadays the scene has changed to accept all cars no matter how slow or fast, no matter what brand... This is a time I live for as all cars have different strengths and weaknesses. I've had over 45 cars (I'm 28) and I've driven all sorts of cars. I've had skylines and fairlady z's, golf's, old s class mercs, commodores and falcons and civics to boot. My favourite kind of car to drive so far is FF layout hatches. I currently drive an 02 Levin five speed and a 04 echo sportivo (vitz rs, Yaris t sport) five speed and while not the fastest out there, they're a whole lot of fun on mountain and forest roads :)

  • @lunar3278
    @lunar3278 2 года назад +6

    Depending on grip AWD can go through corners without losing much speed at all but most of the time there’s not enough grip so overpowered AWD cars usually lose speed in turns, while RWD can gain speed and momentum as it takes the turn, and rarely lose speed in corners.
    FWD is best for roll racing due to the least amount of drivetrain loss. FWD can arguably be better than RWD at certain power levels due to very little loss of grip and even better momentum, but obviously is the worst off the line.
    Overall AWD is best with tuning because it can behave like RWD where it matters (in the corners) and still pull the car forward with the unbeatable grip of AWD.

    • @naoxdbsp1660
      @naoxdbsp1660 2 года назад

      Umm, whole reason why there is RWD is so when the car accelerates the weight shifts to the rear so RWD maintains grip while FWD loses grip when accelerating.

  • @geraldperez7754
    @geraldperez7754 2 года назад +5

    I have driven the three drivetrains a lot in my game. It's a Midnight Racing: Tokyo, a game from Roblox that has one of the most realistic vehicle physics in the platform. I mainly drive my fav Mazda RX7-FD3S which is my RWD and it's the car I got my personal best laptimes in our togue. I drive a Honda Civic EK9 Type-R as well for my FWD. And for my AWD I drive a Nissan GT-R Skyline R32.
    I personally prefer RWD because they're prettymuch the jack of all trades in the three when it comes to time attack.
    And honestly, even all the way in all scenarios like drifting, burnouts and just having fun.
    But regards to my togue usage with RWD
    Their weight is within the middleground of FWD and AWD. Usually FWDs are way lighter than RWD and AWDs are kinda heavier.
    I also think that RWD cars have more skill cieling than FWD and AWD. Mainly because of natural oversteer which can be utilized skillfully. I'm talking about slip angle. Drifting is another story and in another category of driving as well since it usually is best performed as an art to appeal even in pro Formula Drift torunaments. But other than that, RWD seems to be the only one that can use slip angle where you ride just within the limit of traction, the sweet spot that helps in fast cornering. Bloke showed this in one of his "Can Drift be faster" vid as well as his two Slip angle vids.
    Overall I think that Slip Angle makes the biggest difference within the three that makes me prefer RWD more.

    • @metromedia1
      @metromedia1 2 года назад

      Pretty sure slip angle can be achieved with any drive train

    • @inderet4118
      @inderet4118 2 года назад +1

      @@metromedia1 yes, slip angle refers to the tires being right on top of their limit. You can get slip angle on your front tires in a RWD car en vice versa

    • @gameonyolo1
      @gameonyolo1 2 года назад

      Awd has the highest skill ceiling. You have to learn 1. How the awd system reacts, exactly. 2. Power slide entries.

  • @solid_mario3496
    @solid_mario3496 2 года назад

    I heard DNB in the intro, Instantly subbed. I love racing and blasting DNB... Also EuroBeat ;)

  • @tomasalves7831
    @tomasalves7831 2 года назад +1

    Where can I find that EK9 mod? Been searching but can't find it anywhere, is it private? Thanks in advance, keep up the good work ✌🏻

  • @vsapro6069
    @vsapro6069 2 года назад +3

    What evo are you using. Please send a mod link if possible
    thanks

  • @thatoneperson7640
    @thatoneperson7640 2 года назад +6

    According to me skill and exp is important..

  • @johnxina2140
    @johnxina2140 2 года назад +2

    Question, how do you have your interior camera set up? I can never get ac to look how I want it, and your cameras are pretty much perfect, just wondering what settings you have and such

    • @codyc5787
      @codyc5787 2 года назад

      What helped me most was NeckFX

  • @TheA90Supra
    @TheA90Supra 2 года назад +2

    Can you do a video on the no drifting. I almost have it mastered but I just need to work on my entry.

  • @carguynewb7856
    @carguynewb7856 Год назад

    That's why I like using the mrs btw I got assetto corsa this week

  • @ShiroiShinjuDC5
    @ShiroiShinjuDC5 2 года назад

    Also depends is technique like with fwd if you’re a god at left foot braking that’s op or with rwd if you can slip steer extremely proficiently and reliably. Or just straight up track knowledge can completely construe results. It’s way too circumstantial to know for sure sadly.

  • @RR2009ARCHIVE
    @RR2009ARCHIVE Год назад

    background song is Elysian Fields by Artemis

  • @lr44x13
    @lr44x13 2 года назад +3

    Thing with awd is that its good in all conditions. Put a rwd drag car vs awd rally car on slightly wet surface and look how lower hp rally car wins in a dragrace. In perfect conditions tho rwd drag car would perform way way better.

  • @izzyteaurewetipoparai
    @izzyteaurewetipoparai 2 года назад +1

    I gotta say...
    This man's thumbnail's attracted my eyed and make me click so fast

  • @TheLPN05Fan
    @TheLPN05Fan 2 года назад

    I stumbled upon this channel via playing Dirt Rally 2.0, but still learn things I already knew again.
    Personal Expierience is that RWD heavily depends on the traction you have. Got Aero like GT3 or more and you good to go, got it twisty, bumpy or P/W of over 1/3 of you go. I am a controller pleb, so yeah.
    FWD heavily depends on slow and sharp turns, also heavy usage of the Handbrake. Tracks like Silverstone would be death.
    AWD is very dependent on the Differenzial Setup and Power Distribution between axles. I think 22.5/78.5 F/R is the sweet spot, though up to 35/65 AWD is still superior to RWD and down to 15/85 is still viable for very sharp and switchy but not Hairpin tracks. After that unless you do Dragracing, and even then more than 50% Power on Front is iddiocy.

  • @advaithdeepu7764
    @advaithdeepu7764 2 года назад

    yo amazing video
    can i know what cars mods and tracks where used

  • @robertmcgraw5180
    @robertmcgraw5180 2 года назад

    You should make a car pack with all of the cars that are found in your videos.

  • @aperson8627
    @aperson8627 2 года назад

    Also I sometimes don't even brake in FWD, I just hold the accelerator and turn button

  • @198dehydrated5
    @198dehydrated5 2 года назад

    i own a fwd suv, its a 4 cylinder and produces 145 bhp, my dad modified the exhaust, im gonna own it as soon as i get a license

  • @spinister4357
    @spinister4357 2 года назад

    Very nice video

  • @iglooo
    @iglooo 2 года назад

    Hey bro! Just wondering how you got the takumi driver? Please help me out, ive been looking for it for a while

  • @undvnd_unsr3x
    @undvnd_unsr3x 2 года назад +1

    AWD is my favorite because in the video it has the G T 2 0 0 0 YELLOW MITSUBISHI EVO 5 GSR

  • @Miclt131
    @Miclt131 9 месяцев назад

    My wrx feels awesome out of corners if you're in boost 😍

  • @ericsson_motorsports
    @ericsson_motorsports 2 года назад +12

    I prefer RWD, then FWD and lastly AWD for high speed driving because 2WD cars feel more playful.
    FWD is easier to drive but I still prefer RWD because it's more fun to me

  • @derbyjr
    @derbyjr 2 года назад +2

    While I do prefer RWD, I will concede both AWD and FWD do have their benefits. FWD is good for driving, but as both an amateur driver and mechanic, in some configurations it’s a pain to work on. Especially with one such FWD V6 engine car. In looking at you Ford/Mazda

  • @kamanexrace2667
    @kamanexrace2667 Год назад +1

    "it isnt the car thats monstrous, its the driver"

  • @danielthecarguy4779
    @danielthecarguy4779 2 года назад

    He'll love it it's the perfect arcade drifting game

  • @bunta1819
    @bunta1819 2 года назад +1

    From where do you get your yellow cars ?

  • @kamidesu6414
    @kamidesu6414 2 года назад +1

    Just noticed, the hachiroku has takumi instead of the normal driver lol

  • @Echo_3-1_141
    @Echo_3-1_141 2 года назад +6

    In a technical course, an underpowered car can be faster if you can be aggressive on the accelerator.
    But once you get the Eight-Six at the right angle, you can step on the gas as you like.
    -Takahashi Ryosuke

    • @TheXtremeSS
      @TheXtremeSS 2 года назад +2

      Once you get anything at the right angle, you can step on anything you like, be it FR, FF or 4WD and as much as you like even if that's not good since you'll get wheelspin.

    • @Echo_3-1_141
      @Echo_3-1_141 2 года назад

      @@TheXtremeSS Yes but takumi drives it like a beast but not depends on performance for him

    • @JohnFromAccounting
      @JohnFromAccounting Год назад

      Underpowered cars are usually lighter due to a smaller engine. Light weight makes cornering faster. Depending on the course, there could be areas where more power is detrimental. Thats actually the plot of MF Ghost, by the guy who did Initial D.

  • @RagefulCunt
    @RagefulCunt 4 месяца назад +1

    4:23. It also depends on the wight you have on it.
    Heavy stuff on the front can make RWD easy, while adding it from the back makes it more of a FWD
    No seriously try it, I want you grab anything decently heavy like a bag if cat litter or even dog or cat food, once you do add it to the front and try drifting the cart, you'll see it's easy to drift it as "rwd", but if you add it to the back you can definitely tell how a Fwd works at drifting.

  • @jordycruz6661
    @jordycruz6661 2 года назад

    Would awd help put more power down on bumpy/uneven roads?

  • @chrisreardon7185
    @chrisreardon7185 2 года назад +12

    From my experience
    Rwd is fun and makes for good fun drifty drifty
    Fwd is easy to control, although lacklustre in a continued turn
    Awd is the best of both, stupid easy to control but you can still drift it and almost never lift off the throttle unless shifting
    can you guess which i like the most?

  • @souvikdeb5215
    @souvikdeb5215 Месяц назад

    What happens if we use handbrakes for drift instead if trial break and full acceleration and breaks for the toughest corner then we can get drift righ on a FWD?

  • @iDatedMyPizza
    @iDatedMyPizza 2 года назад +1

    Could you tell us what changes you make to the default AE86 to make it slide like that? I'd love to know.

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  2 года назад +6

      None

  • @9xin
    @9xin Год назад +1

    fucking incredible background song bruv. tapped in

    • @untamablewolf
      @untamablewolf 4 месяца назад

      do you know what the song is??

  • @seths4840
    @seths4840 2 года назад +4

    All that you said about the FF made sense, and heck, was really informative, thanks! One thing, my question is, if you’re up against a good opponent and are struggling to keep up driving faster is implied, correct? Like you said about over using the front tires, how can you overcome this disadvantage? Is there a way to speed up and drive faster without over using the fronts?

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 года назад +6

      Not really? Especially if you're trying to drive beyond your abilities you're more like to start stressing the tyres further if your inputs and braking get sloppy.
      Better tyres may help. Physically larger rubber can soak more heat and a different compound may resist overheating for longer.

    • @seths4840
      @seths4840 2 года назад

      Sounds about accurate, thank you!

    • @A_Chocolate_Cookie
      @A_Chocolate_Cookie 2 года назад +1

      Adjust suspension setup and manage weight transfer (your driving style) to better distribute the load on each tire

    • @seths4840
      @seths4840 2 года назад

      The weight is going to go somewhere though, managing weight seems like a lot to keep up with along with steering, three pedals, and a shifter. Got a solution?

    • @jplslo8213
      @jplslo8213 2 года назад +3

      My dad always says, slow is smooth, smooth is fast

  • @ektouge8700
    @ektouge8700 2 года назад +1

    All of the powertrains a really good with a good driver any powertrain can be superior against another. Its up to the driver to rise up against the talent of driver and machine.

  • @YellowEvoV110
    @YellowEvoV110 2 года назад +2

    Why is the evo v always yellow

  • @haux3612
    @haux3612 Год назад

    i have the civic ek9 but the steering lock is really strange, the steering lock doesnt match my actual wheel i only have it with a few cars

  • @davidmadison5582
    @davidmadison5582 2 года назад +1

    Is it weird that I like them all? However the evo 6 is definitely my favorite car

  • @oliverwilliamson6528
    @oliverwilliamson6528 Год назад

    I feel like RWD has the most cornering potential, given this is the only drivetrain config that doesn't require as much weight being transferred to the front for the front tyres to grip during corner entry. This pays dividends during quick directional changes such as slalom-type corners.

  • @HEXAN-tv9eu
    @HEXAN-tv9eu 2 года назад

    I have two cars a 06 outback and 00 Miata SE and the outback can be either awd or FWD

  • @bodie9004
    @bodie9004 2 года назад

    thx for a another leaning lessen

  • @beautifulbeaner
    @beautifulbeaner 2 года назад +4

    It depends on the track really

  • @Drunken_Hamster
    @Drunken_Hamster 7 месяцев назад

    What about rear engine RWD like a 911? Assume it's not one of the widowmaker ones with the wonky suspension.

  • @CobraOneTwelve
    @CobraOneTwelve Год назад

    Anyone know where I could get the Evo used in this video?

  • @demijne9
    @demijne9 2 года назад

    i allways pick the good old rwd cuz i never learned to drive the other ones fast

  • @bobek-oc7xq
    @bobek-oc7xq 2 года назад

    Hey, could you give me a link for the Evo 6 mod you are using?

  • @nightflash96
    @nightflash96 2 года назад

    You forgot to mention the RWD/AWD hybrid that is the GTR series

  • @AiePro26
    @AiePro26 2 года назад

    I like the background music, what is the name of it?

  • @KrisjanBalanMusic
    @KrisjanBalanMusic 2 года назад

    This is Kyouichi Sudo Approved Channel. 👍

  • @carterniu3136
    @carterniu3136 2 года назад

    All these videos do is empower me with my 06 civic😂

  • @rahim.khairuddin7363
    @rahim.khairuddin7363 2 года назад

    Nice i could see shingo,takumi and toudou school peaople with misfiring system

  • @Dominik189
    @Dominik189 2 года назад +1

    Holy shyte! I found two FWD I actually enjoy and can drive fast! And they're an EK9 Civic and a DC5 Integra... I've never in my life been able to drive FWD at all. Even in AC, I have pretty much everything a try before except these two, finally forced to try these two and by god, THEY'RE ACTUALLY FUN! Legit posted my fastest time yet on EK Tsukuba with a DC5, a 5:09.5. prior to that my fastest time was a 5:15.7 with a tuned FC.

    • @TheXtremeSS
      @TheXtremeSS 2 года назад

      Give the 500 Abarth step 1 a try. More than enough lift off oversteer to put it sideways and you can use that to actually balance the car. It's probably way slower than those cars though. :P

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 2 года назад

      @@TheXtremeSS you mean the OG Abarth 500, or the new one?

    • @TheXtremeSS
      @TheXtremeSS 2 года назад

      @@Dominik189 new one. The old one is RR.

    • @Dominik189
      @Dominik189 2 года назад

      @@TheXtremeSS hmmm, I might give it a chance. Might...

  • @themaddigga
    @themaddigga 2 года назад

    In the end it's all about preference

  • @wizdumb_and_valor
    @wizdumb_and_valor 2 года назад

    What is the music you're using in your videos? Someone help I need it on my playlist

  • @pashagesha
    @pashagesha 2 года назад +4

    I bet awd the best, it has the best acceleration, advantages of RWD and easier to control like fwd

    • @domino-86
      @domino-86 2 года назад +1

      Understeer lol

  • @giuppy155
    @giuppy155 Год назад

    Hi, I joined your discord but the links for TSRB AE86 and some other aren't working. Can u fix it?

  • @TonyFelony19
    @TonyFelony19 2 года назад

    What game is that you're using for simulations ?

  • @Wonginism
    @Wonginism Год назад +1

    The progression for a Top level Rally driver is FWD to AWD
    And that's the advice they will give.
    You can't make use of an AWD if you can't pull in $50,000+ USD a year in sponsorships so stick to 2WD and if you are serious about becoming a world class racer get a FWD.

  • @Dubstep195
    @Dubstep195 2 года назад

    What is the song in the background? It sounds like a rr4 beat but smoother.

  • @ymb9shinzou743
    @ymb9shinzou743 2 года назад +2

    Have you changed the setup for AE86s to be more suitable for touge and if so could you share them? Thanks!

    • @TSRB
      @TSRB  2 года назад +1

      I just used the default tunes

    • @ymb9shinzou743
      @ymb9shinzou743 2 года назад

      @@TSRB Oh nice! Just want to be sure I'm putting myself in the best position to learn, and to have no excuse other than "I suck"
      Best way for me to keep up those reps.

    • @beautifulbeaner
      @beautifulbeaner 2 года назад

      @@ymb9shinzou743 stock tune on the “tuned AE86” is the best imo, incredibly quick and agile

    • @beautifulbeaner
      @beautifulbeaner 2 года назад

      @@SSmallwood no need, the most I do is change liters of petrol to 5, everything else is fine