Kenya has the second largest Indian community in Africa, after South Africa. In 2015, there were around 100,000 Indians in Kenya, which is 0.3% of the total population. The majority of Indians live in the major urban areas of Nairobi and Mombasa, with a minority living in rural areas. if you enjoyed content, kindly hit that like 👍 button and subscribe. Thanks so much for watching!
Correction, SA has 1.56 millions Indians and Nigeria is second with 800M. Why focus on 0.30% of population, the presence of Indians in Kenya is always blown out proportion, in a country of 55 million people 100K is nothing, there are even those who claim Indians own Kenya. There are few Indians who do manufacturing and construction, majority are into whole stores, those who used to do retail have left, outcompeted by locals. When it comes to black ownership and locally manufacturing industries Kenya is one of the highest in Kenya. Kenya has a large number farmers who are upper middle class and upper class
@@andeyo1 thanks for the update on the population. I don’t think focusing on humans who are a huge part of the diversity and the most recent tribe is “nothing”. I also disagree that it is blown out of proportion. As an African myself, I didn’t know about them and I recently learned so I’m sharing it to the world. Most westerners can’t even name 5 countries in Africa so I’m pretty sure many people have no idea about this new tribe. It is important and not “nothing”. Thanks for watching!
@@andeyo1get your fact well before commenting just Google...you have your phone kenya have second biggest population of Indians after south africa infact we have more than 150k kenyan Indians and another 150k immigrants...do your research.
I was born in Kenya and moved to the USA decades ago. My heart is still in Kenya. My grandparents migrated from Punjab India to Kenya in the 1930s. I love your blogs, Kenya has done so well. What a beautiful country, with friendly people, great cuisine, fantastic weather, beautiful landscapes, and wildlife, There is no land that comes close to Kenya.
African Blacks in every Country across Africa have their own African Culture. By right and this is all good Each Think, behave, act and work their way, Whether a constructive, productive and progressive thinking n doing people. So Africans are who and how they are. That is All good. Well. sooo do the Indians. They too have their Culture and ways of working developing n living. Whether they are a constructive productive n progressive thinking n doing people. No one type is responsible for another's inabilities, lacking quality of Character, or level of mentality, or constructive n progresive ways, or more lazy laid back ways, or NOT.
All how Indians treat Africa's in India, by the way Africans is a race of people all over the world as in Africa America. Whites who reside in Africa are not African. You do not become Chinese or Indians just because you family has been there for generations. why are we refering to them now as Indians
@@andeyo1 A black African is never regarded as Indian/Chinese/Japanese/Asian, or European just because they are born or lived there for generations. Africans are Black African and only that. Those ethnicities calling themselves African are imposters.
This black girl is rude. Someone tells you that his great grandfather is born in Kenya and you still asking him question as he is not Kenyan. You are the ones pushing them to live in community because of such resentment.
It's the same as being Black & born in London. NONE of the "Anglo-Saxon" mob regards US AS British & they use this phrase about US "A DOG born in stable doesn't make it a horse" I like the Celts though, lovely authentic people, not so much the "Anglo-Saxons" a bit TOO pompous, self righteous & aggressive for me
Absolutely not. He is a Kenyan citizen not a Kenyan indigenous citizen. There is a difference. I don't care how many generations -- your maintenance of Indian culture, customs, language and who you socialize with screams that you are from India or Pakistan. It does not say Kenyan at all.
My indian friends and classmates both in high school and campus are friendly and they don't have that indian accent at all the younger generation of indian community in Kenya are so friendly with shred of humanity compared to the older generation who are kind of emotionally unavailable ,proud ,hateful and insensitive. Even though the Indians have contributed largely to the growth of kenya economy i just feel they need to work on there personality ,but not all of them like the CEO kings collection the man is so charitable ,briliant and kind hearted .
That’s amazing to me that, people that are not indigenous to a place can come there, and then not allow the indigenous people into their communities pretty sick
Great video, Ivain. Beautiful conversation. It was great to see Priya and Susan again. I learned a lot from this video. Thank you for your time and effort in making this beautiful video 👍👍👍.
Priya @20:33 should have noted that the current UK Prime Minister has roots in Indian Kenyan. His biography states that his father, Yashvir Sunak, was born and raised in the Colony and Protectorate of Kenya, which is present-day Kenya. I have Indian Kenyan neighbors in the Upper Eastern region of Kenya. They have truly integrated into the local community, and some have even married locals. These individuals speak the local languages fluently while still preserving their own cultural identity, native language, and faith.
@@esem135 I agree that it isn't common, but if you visit Kathama ka Indi in Meru, a place literally named "Indian place," you will discover individuals of mixed Meru and Indian heritage due to their relationships. Furthermore, you will come across Indians who are fluent in Kimeru. Interestingly, one of the current Members of Parliament in Meru has Indian ancestry.
A lot of Indians came to African countries for work during British colonization. When they were no longer needed, the British didn't pay for their fares back to India as they had promised. So many Indians just stayed because they didn't have money to go back to India. Indians from that time are found in Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, and South Africa. Many have become citizens of these African countries. Also, there are Christians in India, Catholics and Protestants, they are religous minorities (2.3%) but they are there. The apostle Thomas is known to have gone to India to share the gospel there.
These people are proud and hateful towards locals Africans. I'm a Kenyan I know. Majority not all though hardly interact with the locals.. We've over privileged them.
I am white 12th or more generation born African & often experience a certain attitude towards me from mainly Pakistani Muslim people of Indian heritage. Its not just about race but often a social cultural & religious distancing from other groups.
Another lovely share, I was born and brought up in Kenya but there are many things I do not know about Kenya since I moved away so many years ago. I think things like living in Langata are reserved(said simply) thanks for another brilliant share my bro.Enjoy your time in Kenya
I have managed to resist my attempt to make an objective comment on this vide bcos my thoughts will be very unpreasant to your audiences and the people of Kenya and Afica at large. Is this housing estate exclusive to Indians really happening in Africa? How can this happen on Black African soil with Black African leaders who are mandated to protect the human rights of its citizens across the African continent.
Very interesting question. I tried to find out more but wasn’t able to. I’ll keep digging next time I visit this chapter again. Thanks a lot for watching!
The Indians were part of the struggle when we were fighting for our freedom. Read more about Pio Gama Pinto and the rest who fought right beside our freedom fighters. That is the reason they were allowed to stay.
Priya is a well knowledgeable and informed mind,,,she hasn't forgotten where she comes from and her ppl,,,a good attribute,,, with her traveling and all that she is a liberated mind,,, she's wise
DUDE IS TRIPPING!! YOU SHOULD BE DOING A STORY ABOUT HOW INDIANS TREAT KEYANS LIKE SLAVES !!I KNOW WHY YOUR DOING THIS FOR INDIAN CLICKS BUT JUST GO AROUND KENYA AND ASK PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR INDIANS AND HOW THEY WERE TREATED
@@kingknights5107what good is a job if it exploits u? U work very hard but get paid next to nothing. I rather be unemployed than working and killing my body and soul for peanuts. U are justifying exploitation against locals. I would never be ok with foreigners getting rich on the backs of our own 😢
@@SueKim527 “slave like” working conditions is what many workers refer to their jobs for no reason at all.. Its just a figure of speech at the moment..
Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi. C'est insupportable de voir des communautés vivre loin des locaux, comme si vous êtes de la merde. On doit pas accepter cet apparteid social et économique. J étais au Kenya mais je n avais pas compris le ressentiment des locaux sur les indiens . Maintenant, les choses sont claires
You need to come out from your victimhood mentality, you need to understand that it is their house in a gated community where they collectively own each and every thing you cannot enter anyone's house without their permission.
The interview from my Kenyan elder there was an eye opener more so in job opportunities and treatment from both sides. In my childhood l grew up with lndian community. From my experience, they're friendly but more into traditional believes. In relationships, there parents believe more in Indian setup like Priya said. Nice content brother.
There was a small Indian presence in Mombasa during the Vasco Da Gama era in the 1500s when the Portuguese were around in Mombasa but a majority started to move in in 1895.
Kenya is a settler colony. Lots of people were brought in from other parts of the world. UK prime minister is Kenyan origin. There are similar housing places in smaller towns like Kerugoya and Meru. Those in these closed places are mostly from the Swaminarayan/ kutchi background. Muslim Indians and Sikhs rarely segregate themselves
Yes, Jains especially do not like to mingle with other communities because of their vegan diet. It's an abomination for them to even smell meat cooking! Speaking from my experience while living in an Indian city back in the day.
I am an Indian Kenyan being in this country for last 28 years. What information you are getting from PRIYA SHARMA is not the truth ... she needs to learn about her tribe and India. SUSAN THERE IS NO DISCRIMINATION THERE IS A CUSTOM TO FOLLOW IF YOU BE COME PURE VEG , NO EGG, MEAT, CHIKEN, FISH ... you are most welcome. So please do not use those hard words
The conversation is very interesting; I am 5th generation South African Indian, my ancestors are from South India and were brought by the British to Durban South Africa in 1860 to work on the sugar cane plantations. My ancestors worked very hard buiiding schools, temples mosques for the communtiy. I am proud of my Indian origin but I cannot live in India. I share the same sentiments with the gentlemen. Most of my family have moved out of South Africa and I now live in Australia for the last 34 years.
@@listenup2882 my family and I have bee very kind to indigenous Africans. I have been sponsoring a child from Uganda and other parts of Africa through World Vision. I cannot comment on the behaviour of otherrs. I also assist other Kenyans currently. Unfortunately I am not able to answer your questions.
@@listenup2882 if africans, americans, britishers, chinese, japanese etc want to live separately from local indians in india we have no issue, why would i interfere in someone's life. it's their money and their choice. In india, there is parsi community( people from iran ) living separately and then there are anglo indians( british indian ) living separately in india, we have no issues with them because it does not make any sense to bother those people if they have invested their money to live separately from us then there is no need of my interference in their lives, they just want to live closer to people of their culture.
I understand why India community…lot of foreign countries do that I seen Africa an Americans moved to Africa have their own community in different part of Africa continent 😅thank you Ivantures
Nope!! Only a fraction were from Ug, and they left and now live in UK and Canada, including those who were in Kenya. Others went to TZ. That is why there are only 100,000 of them in Kenya ..a very small number.
Am born and raised in kenya from somali descent i feel its ok for them to live like that teach and preserve their tradition to the generations kenyans dont have what i call tradition follow up Owise their children will get lost same as ours i wouldnt love mu daughter to be so close and comfy with a kenyan she will end up lost at last so thats the best fpr their teenagers
Indians basically come together and combine resources to develop the properties which they later move into. That's why it might be perceived that they live in isolation. Their togetherness is a major reason a lot of them are successful.
Well put. They combine effort as a result they excel. it is also notable in the Kenya-Somalis nowadays. This is the one thing we have to learn from them.
Ivain, i got really attracted by your curiousity thats why i watched your vlog all the way to the end and subscribed to your channel. I'm Somali-Kenyan and i always wondered why Indians in Kenya have separated themselves from the rest of the Kenyan people while Kenyans are the most civilized and humble people in whole world. Try to visit Eastleigh/Nairobi where Somali people live and pls be so curious it helps and educates us cuz i know I'd never waste my time watching an entire long video thats not educative 😅😅
Thanks so much for watching the video. I’m currently out of the country, but I make sure I will do that next time. Thank you so much for the suggestion! Happy new year!
@@IvainTures pleasure brother and I wish best holidays for you and your loved ones and all the best in your career you seem a humble person and that's where all success begins.
"Why Indians in Kenya have separated themselves from the rest of the Kenyan people" How come a member of a family goes out of joint family and set up his or her nuclear family?
You can't enter any gated community in Kenya without an appointment, it doesn't matter it's native Kenyans, whites or indians. But as as a Kenyan I don't like these kenyan indians because they think they're better than us.
Africans are very kind, welcoming, and friendly people. I just don't like the apartheid attitudes and systems these foreigners have brought and created in the continent.
@@kingknights5107no they bring exploitation only while paying locals very low wages barely spending money with locals and always sending Money bk home to develop india. There very unpatriotic. Only loyal to india. Tbh there just leeching off Africa
because many peoples didn't see any african in our country 😑😑😑 you are very rare in our country. I have seen few peoples in my country and they are living peacefully .😶😶😶😶
@oromosheikormo6964: You mean black people are too nice to other races while other races are not so nice to them. But I believe that is changing now and it's going to be at their peril. Black people are waking up now
As a kenyan who's travelled to Europe, India, and America. My personal opinion is that many indian kenyans (not all) discriminate against black africans and look down on them. I travel to India every three years. I can't speak highly enough of the warmth and friendlies I've experienced. While living in the UK, some of my closest friends where indian. But here in kenya, maybe due to history. All I can say is it is sad as we all could learn from each other.
The class system is very strong in the Indian Community. The lighter skin Indians do discriminate against the darker skin Indians; and at the same time, they do not share much in common.
You need to come out from your victimhood mentality, you need to understand that it is their house in a gated community where they collectively own each and every thing you cannot enter anyone's house without their permission.
Bro I don't understand where you get all this nonsense, as a Indian I can tell you we don't have any colour discrimination, my skin colour is brownies-black and my sister is white 😂😂😂.
@@ayushsingh1943 Your first cmt is a copy and paste. Hey.. you don't even know why indians are living in former colonies of brits. I know why. Well your country is hiding the fact that your people served brits and helped colonialism of them. 1.4 mil indians served and fought for brits in colonial days,buddy. India was the only colony of brits who served them in mass willingly Hey.. indians were such a patriotic society
Marawa did a vlog about the black people in India who are called Sidis and they are treated like garbage in India. It broke my heart. Black people are the only race that doesn't stick together. This is our weakness around the world. This is why we are the laughing stocks of the world.
if africans, americans, britishers, chinese, japanese etc want to live separately from local indians in india we have no issue, why would i interfere in someone's life. it's their money and their choice. In india, there is parsi community( people from iran ) living separately and then there are anglo indians( british indian ) living separately in india, we have no issues with them because it does not make any sense to bother those people if they have invested their money to live separately from us then there is no need of my interference in their lives, they just want to live closer to people of their culture.
I am an Indian living in Toronto for last 30 years.I am shocked that racism is practiced in Kenya.🇰🇪 THIS must stop 🛑 or what happened in Uganda 🇺🇬 under IDI Amin.But Priya you are talking about caste system.
You live in Toronto n you know racism practice by Indians in Kenya. Wow. Please share what you know of their experience or what they endured there also. B4 jump to conclusions. Or do you just see a video with a housing community built by magic and not knowing the reason for it ?
U said you are an Indian living in Toronto. Do u mean u are from India? Or are you an Indian Guyanese instead? Or, an Indian Trinidadian? If you are from Trinidad for Eg. Then wouldn’t that mean u are Indian Trinidadian?
At 26:10. She is completely exposed and forced to admit that she has abysmal knowledge of her own religion and society after she started boasting about her own cast. I think she wasn't even asked the most fundamental question like the nature of God that the Hindus believe in. She represents the naivety and incompetence of an average Hindu woman who can't tell or convince people about their entire religious tradition. It is irrespective of the fact that the Hinduism has the unarguably the most sophisticated conception of God as Brahman as mentioned in the Vedas. Christians worshipping a human being called Jesus and Muslims killing the Kafirs for Muhammad as a prophet subvert the basic concept of God.
An extremely informative vlog, your best yet in my view. I watched it over three days, and would have watched more. I'm Jamaican so anything about the motherland attracts my interest. There is just so much to unpack. First, I wish the African residents in India, the Siddis, enjoyed as much acceptance. Generally, the Indian presence in Africa, is a relative success, when compared to the British playing God, and imposing their will on other innocent peoples around the globe. Case in point, the Jews in Palestine, the Rohingyas in Myanmar, enslavement of my African ancestors, and countless other atrocities and violations. In praise of your efforts as a vlogger, were I 45 years younger, I would certainly entertain thoughts of relocating to the motherland, and Kenya especially. Kenya's standards compared to Ghana and others, are very impressive, despite the atrocities endured.
Thank you so much for watching. I agree wholeheartedly. Kenya is an amazing country and there’s so much to see and learn about the motherland. I truly appreciate your time watching this. It is certainly a subject that I will revisit again in the future. Thanks for the feedback.
Just know that the UK prime minister, Rishi Sunak, is an East African (father born in Kenya & mother in Tanzania). He should be proud to embrace his African heritage.
Yet he is one the most xenophobia prime minister that UK ever had. while at same time being a son of an immigrant parents. This is a pure definition of selling your soul and who you are for money and power. This is why Ethiopians look down on them they're willing to do anything for money. 🪳🪳🪳
Rishi is from a Punjabi Indian origin family, his parents just grew up in East Africa but were ethnically Indian.. Rishi doesn’t have ANY African ancestry
There is segregation in Kenya based on income (those with economic advantages) and those who are in a different class, they live in various communities in Nairobi.
****Ivain, make sure you visit Black Indians in India. They are called the Siddis. India marginalized them into the mountain. Their living condition is far from the good life of Indians in Kenya. They have been in India since the 1800s.
Thanks for the feedback! One day, I’ll make it to India. My goal with my vlogs isn’t to compare ills, judge or denigrate. There are injustices all over the world. I simply want to expose some unknown facts that I discover during my travels. There’s good and bad in every country and the challenge is to strike a balance and not denigrate or judge complex issues I don’t fully understand. Thanks for watching!
Please, don't blame the Indians, they didn't force themselves into any countries. The extreme pain and suffering they had to overcome in a promised land. However, Indians are the real children of God as they don't have problem settling anywhere in the world with maximum results of good living. In general we are all human beings and nothing will beat to live with a little bit of kindness towards each other as our Precious God knows the best for everyone. Live with love is the perfect answer to all our ills. God bless you all. 🙏.
Utter rubbish, Kenyan Indian's r very much Kenyans just like the rest of us n the nonsense of racism is neither here nor there. Their contribution to the Kenyan economy is unmatched esp manufacturing, Real estate, hospitality etc
The most racist group of people in Kenya. Kenyans are friendly by nature, but they can always spot racial and class discrimination, and unwillingness to assimilate. That's a fact. An Indian will leave you out of a promotion to give it to an Indian relative from India who you have taught on the job, pay them better than natives. On a positive note, Indians have consolidated their investments and have made it possible for most of Kenya to industrialized, that means jobs.
@@kingknights5107 Kenyans have been here before your British master imported you the IMMIGRANT LABOUR When the master left you should have followed suit.
Ivan there is a heavy Indian presence in the West Indies and South America. In Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Suriname and some in Jamaica and Belize as well in Africa where they were taken to Kenya, South Africa and the Mauritius Islands. The British imported Indians under contract from India as indentured laborers after Slavery was abolished because the formerly Enslaved Africans refused to work on the sugar plantations even if they would be paid to do so. They also worked to help the British to build the Railroads in Africa.The terms of the contract was for a period of five years and they were promised a return trip back to India. Some eventually returned but most stayed the majority of which were of the Dalits or what was considered from the lower cast. The indentured service was also offered to Portuguese from Madeira and Cape Verde and Chinese a well at different period. The indentured labors were able to keep their name , culture,religion and to some extent language as opposed to what was not afforded the formerly enslaved Africans.
Your info on the Indian Indentured Labourers to British Guiana by saying the majority were Dalits is very very wrong/ Unfounded. I never heard that word in Guyana at all. Until saw it on the Internet about 8 - 10 yrs ago Can I ask u a few questions to back up how u came up with that description? 1. From which State or States in India, that said majority you described came from to Guyana? 2. What language was their Mother Tongue? 3. Which old records/authentic source show that majority were Dalits? Usually these records are kept in National archives. Is it from there you got your info? Who wrote the History on said Majority you stated, in question?
@@colleencolleen4665 U put out information here for people n history that I suppose you would have facts to back up n share it the same. Thus, my few simple questions to you, in comment a while ago. I am not seeing your answers with the facts as yet. Anyway, I did know the factual answers We have true records in archives of said specific Indian Guyanese history. I had asked you. The Indian Indentured Labourers to British Guiana were brought from many different States of Bharat/ India. However, mainly, MAJORITY came from the Agricultural Districts of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, India. Whom were Bhojpuri speaking (mother tongue) and from the Ahir caste: Farmers in India. So, can you kindly recheck my query to you and please share how you came up such wrong n misleading info you put out here? Thanks
@@colleencolleen4665 The Indians (Indentured) to British Guiana coming mainly from Agricultural Districts of Bihar n Uttar Pradesh ( farming caste ), was how Guyana, South America, came to have stated Rice Plantations. It is how, we all were able to eat rice in Guyana.
You guys need to visit guyana in south America, 50 % of the population are Indians ,the rest are Africans, today Indians in guyana are from 6 or 7 generation, we were all born here but out for parents came from India in the 1800, here in guyana Africans and Indian lives together like brothers and sisters for the most part, we are not racist like those Indians from Kenya or other parts of Africa that keeps to themselves, here in guyana black and Indians marriage happen all the time, we even celibate each other festivals, guyana is truly a special place, im Indian btw , guyana south America is definitely worth a visit.
Lies. To East Indian descendants in Guyana, there has always been Anti Indian racism n crimes robberies including hate crimes Also there is Pro Black political Organization that fuels division all the time. Why not say the truth. Also you are wrong about those Indians in Kenya or across Africa as racist.
And are you OK with this? These other nations who are in Africa for more than one generation are quite at home in Africa but the Siddis - Africans in India after 500 years, are STILL treated like outsiders and when they speak the native common language, Indians are shocked and ask how they come to know that. Plus they suffer apartheid in India (on top of the caste system which exists defacto) - and needless to say the Indians are most inhospitable to them. But you seem quite pleased to welcome these nations to Africa - who treat Africans - in Africa - as though they are 3rd class citizens! When and how will we ever learn, African?
Siddis are slaves that ran away and hid in the forests from their colonial masters.. 99.99% of Indians are unaware of what a Siddi is.. India is a very big country - the largest with the most population..
Population of Indian is as big as the whole of Africa. It is complex like Africa. You are simply copy pasting your colonial experience into India. We Hindus are second class in India.
Kenyans are very tolerant people, even politically finally Kikuyus and Luos have learnt to live together, i think most Kenyans don't like Indians in general but neither do Indians like us. But we get along since we don't have a bad history compared to with European or among ourselves. Humans have the same problems world wide.
It's like this: Indians can live anywhere in Kenya. I've never heard of an Indian being denied residency in any part of Kenya, but the young Indian lady in the video just mentioned Kenyans not being allowed to live in certain areas occupied by Indians. In Kenya, not India.
You need to come out from your victimhood mentality, you need to understand that it is their house in a gated community where they collectively own each and every thing you cannot enter anyone's house without their permission.
The amount of ignorance and misinformation displayed by the lady on 31:00 to 31:30 , really tells how much education is really needed for our Indians and also for the foreigners so as to understand the cultural and social history and heritage of India, else these half baked venom is only tarnishing the indian and hindu civilization. For you Ivan , i would only pray that you consult an religious expert on matters related to hindu faith, so as to explain our faith and society, and not fall for any cultural misappropriation. P.S. visit any swami narayan temple, since you are from U.S
Indian community in Uganda was so racist to locals unfortunately our president idi Amin deported all of them some relocated to Kenya from what iread about and we are proud of idi Amin we dont deal with this segregation here❤
Indians were not racist in Uganda either. Nor, anywhere else in the world. They wanted to protect their Indian Culture. This is a right for any race of People too. Indians are not racist people. They are industrious n enterprising love to build n show some progress. I am from the West Indies n loving my Ancestral Indian Culture. Saddened I dont have the Language. Our Ancestors faced similar struggles n injustices from some anti-Indian racist here also. This is how they pressured the Indians and forced out communication among them with their own Indian languages: Hindi Bhojpuri, Bengali, Tamil and Urdu The Indian Culture is very rich n signifcantly great that helps them with guidelines to develop n progress fast. You see, the World saw how well Indians in general ( have poor Indians too ) work hard n brilliamt, to progress / develop in Africa. Have Faced with the envy and jealousy also hate for their hard earned successes.
Idi Amin made a doucumentary that he was possessed woth demons, that he heard the voices in his head telling him what to do. So he made Ugandan Africans stole every Indian house, all their buildings n properties. Please Watch another Documentary by CBC 's Omar Sachadina. It shows the world, that in just few years only, Amin s people destroyed those same houses shops n buildings which tney stole from Indian Ugandans. From large buildings they wrecked to shanty shacks with bags for doors. Ugandan Africans ended up loosing n suffered more. For carrying out those evil deeds against the Indians.
In case anyone is is curious. 1. Cast system is social issue not religious. Religiously there are vernas as she described the 4 vernas but they are not birth based and they are not for discimination. It was only a way to define what work how Many ppl are doing and how to do it correctly but later people turned it into discrimination 2. There is only 1 God in hinduism often refered as "pram brahm" but since the concept of param brahm is so vast thats why it is further divided in several forms of God (different faces but same God) to explain several concepts of nature in easier way. The God in hinduism is actually "nerakar" (without any form) but to understand it better with our limited brain we give it a form. Those who reach higher level of wisdom they do not need a form as They can understand the God in its raw form. The entire motive of hinduism is to understand the ultimate truth (God) and gain salvation (freedom from rebirth). It is famously said by adi shankracharye "brahm satye jag mithya" (only brahm is truth, everything else is illusion or relative reality). We belive that world is as we Want to see it and we are caught in cage of materialistic illusion. Ones u get out of it then u will murge inside param brahm. To be honest this is a HUGE concent which can not be explained in few words. We belive in different forms of God not different Gods. We worship devinity is different forms as suitable for our own knowledge and nature. 3. Status of women, men, trans etc is same in hinduism. There is no difference as such. They all can become preasts, warrior what so ever and There are many female preasts in hinduism. There are matrilineal socirties as well. Though largely our society is patriarchal and definetly NOT an ideal hindu society. Places in India which are more impacted by invasions are more patriarchal. Those who are more treditional are less patriarchal. Differences of sexes is recognized in hinduism same as every other human can be different from each but their souls are not different and thats why there is excuse to take away anyone's human rights. Society is expected to be designed for all not just for men. If due to biology women face more difficulties then it is job of the ruler and society to help them out without taking away their human Rights. Yes, women can be religious teachers (guru), righi (saints) etc as well. When lord Ram was talking about leaving Ayodhya at that time his father asked Mother Sita to stay back and handle the thrown but She refused to do so and wanted to go with lord Ram. This shows that women are not forbidden from being rulers either. Its not the only example. Yes even at that time society was not ideal but hinduism definetly does not forbids women from taking up any position in society and getting protection is their right not favour. It is famously said in hindu scriptures "where Women are honored, divinity blossoms there, and where women are dishonored, all action no matter how noble remain unfruitful." Child marriage is also forbidden in hinduism. Women are expected to remain brahmacharyi (celibate) until she turns 18 or 16 if she completes her education early but mostly still she will have to wait till 18 before entering in house holder's life
I have a big big problem the Black kenyans are not allowed to live in the same neighborhood with the Indians. How can the leaders, president allowed that to happen. So in other words there is segregation and racism in Kenya. why would black people from the Caribbean, Europe, America or any other parts of the world want to reside in Kenya other such racist conditions, if people can't live as one in Kenya. Can black people go to India and tell the natives that they are not allowed to live amongst them. NO. This is extremely upsetting and need to change. I was planning to relocate to Kenya but I would be damn if I would go there to invest my money and live under such racism and segregation. WHY the hell as a black person, my ancestors are from Africa relocate to Kenya to live as a second class citizen. That's friggin NONSENSE!!!
AS A KENYAN I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO LIVE CLOSE TO THE INDIANS. WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME CULTURE OR RELIGION. THEY ARE THE MINORITIES AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO LIVE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. STOP WITH YOUR VICTIM MENTALITY NONESENSE.
32:13 it abolished by indian law not by the people They practice it everywhere they go About reservation we call it representation just like our constitution they act like this all the time shes victimized herself . They are rich their ancestors are rich and they believe that we got less marks then them they own most wealth of india . Our people work as slaves and labours even today clean their rich homes and do manual scavenging. Its not 90% and 30% its almost as same as 70% only in government sector while most important all things are private owned so theres nothing like this . Love you ❤❤❤ you confront her nicely About marriage they don't Marry in lower caste And also if someone do that they kill lower caste .
Good question 🙋.through my experience depends on where they comes from ,punjab people are more welcoming, kind and even mix with local communities, Patel is very hard to trust, and can be two faced Patel never honest like punjab.
Sorry to say but Priya don't have any factual knowledge about Hinduism except her being Brahmin . She is totally wrong about caste because none of hindu text have word caste. Vedas mentions 4 VARNA which are Brahmin, Kshatriya , vaishaya and Shudra but none is inferior to any. VARNA is decided on basis of "GUNA" I.e Quality. for example one of biggest Empire - Maurya Empire from SHUDRA caste. Caste is a Portuguese word given by colonizers.
Are there even Kenyans in India?? I’ve watched several vloggers who visit India including Americans and Europeans and let me tell you, they come out of there saying they won’t go back! Why? I don’t even know! But from I was told by my Indian friends who I work with, is that India is no place for foreigners in general! It’s hard for them too that’s why you will find them in almost every other country where it’s peaceful and clean, just not in India.
Kenya has the second largest Indian community in Africa, after South Africa. In 2015, there were around 100,000 Indians in Kenya, which is 0.3% of the total population. The majority of Indians live in the major urban areas of Nairobi and Mombasa, with a minority living in rural areas. if you enjoyed content, kindly hit that like 👍 button and subscribe. Thanks so much for watching!
Great video ma brotha! I'm Kenyan and I grew up with Indian buddies. My best friend in elementary school.
Edit:
...was Indian.
Correction, SA has 1.56 millions Indians and Nigeria is second with 800M. Why focus on 0.30% of population, the presence of Indians in Kenya is always blown out proportion, in a country of 55 million people 100K is nothing, there are even those who claim Indians own Kenya. There are few Indians who do manufacturing and construction, majority are into whole stores, those who used to do retail have left, outcompeted by locals. When it comes to black ownership and locally manufacturing industries Kenya is one of the highest in Kenya. Kenya has a large number farmers who are upper middle class and upper class
@@kenkioqqo thanks so much for watching!
@@andeyo1 thanks for the update on the population. I don’t think focusing on humans who are a huge part of the diversity and the most recent tribe is “nothing”. I also disagree that it is blown out of proportion. As an African myself, I didn’t know about them and I recently learned so I’m sharing it to the world. Most westerners can’t even name 5 countries in Africa so I’m pretty sure many people have no idea about this new tribe. It is important and not “nothing”. Thanks for watching!
@@andeyo1get your fact well before commenting just Google...you have your phone kenya have second biggest population of Indians after south africa infact we have more than 150k kenyan Indians and another 150k immigrants...do your research.
I was born in Kenya and moved to the USA decades ago. My heart is still in Kenya. My grandparents migrated from Punjab India to Kenya in the 1930s. I love your blogs, Kenya has done so well. What a beautiful country, with friendly people, great cuisine, fantastic weather, beautiful landscapes, and wildlife, There is no land that comes close to Kenya.
Thanks so much for watching! Kenya is truly one of the kind.
I’m a Ugandan living in California, a Punjabi family has adopted me . They are my landlord but treat me like a son
@@TonnyOkellonice to hear
Indians are always kind
@@TonnyOkellobe happy brother.
African Blacks in every Country across Africa have their own African Culture. By right and this is all good
Each Think, behave, act and work their way, Whether a constructive, productive and progressive thinking n doing people.
So Africans are who and how they are. That is All good.
Well. sooo do the Indians. They too have their Culture and ways of working developing n living.
Whether they are a constructive productive n progressive thinking n doing people.
No one type is responsible for another's inabilities, lacking quality of Character, or level of mentality, or constructive n progresive ways, or more lazy laid back ways, or NOT.
If you are going to be doing how indians are treated in Kenya.. also do how indians treat local Kenyans . Thank you.
Yes they treat Local so bad
All how Indians treat Africa's in India, by the way Africans is a race of people all over the world as in Africa America. Whites who reside in Africa are not African. You do not become Chinese or Indians just because you family has been there for generations. why are we refering to them now as Indians
Who allowed that.
@@andeyo1 A black African is never regarded as Indian/Chinese/Japanese/Asian, or European just because they are born or lived there for generations. Africans are Black African and only that. Those ethnicities calling themselves African are imposters.
I was looking for his comment crazzzy
This black girl is rude. Someone tells you that his great grandfather is born in Kenya and you still asking him question as he is not Kenyan. You are the ones pushing them to live in community because of such resentment.
Correct
It's the same as being Black & born in London. NONE of the "Anglo-Saxon" mob regards US AS British & they use this phrase about US "A DOG born in stable doesn't make it a horse" I like the Celts though, lovely authentic people, not so much the "Anglo-Saxons" a bit TOO pompous, self righteous & aggressive for me
Yes. You are rational n realistic about it.
Listen to her tone n the aha aha almost every sentence when the man was talking. lol
Absolutely not. He is a Kenyan citizen not a Kenyan indigenous citizen. There is a difference. I don't care how many generations -- your maintenance of Indian culture, customs, language and who you socialize with screams that you are from India or Pakistan. It does not say Kenyan at all.
@@jamdee6 This is the New Kenya..
My indian friends and classmates both in high school and campus are friendly and they don't have that indian accent at all the younger generation of indian community in Kenya are so friendly with shred of humanity compared to the older generation who are kind of emotionally unavailable ,proud ,hateful and insensitive. Even though the Indians have contributed largely to the growth of kenya economy i just feel they need to work on there personality ,but not all of them like the CEO kings collection the man is so charitable ,briliant and kind hearted .
Fascinating portrayal of the vibrant Indian community enriching Kenya's culture!
Thanks for watching!
The culture was already rich, didn't need enriching
Africa needs more diversity. Dont be racist
How about the Kenyan culture enriching the Indians?
@@jamdee6 Indians are in Kenya for cultural enrichment..
S/o to you for getting as much content for this as you could despite how difficult it seemed. Loved it!
It was a challenge for sure. Thanks so much for watching!
Travelling miss is a vibe actually your collabo with Ivan is top notch. I always make sure I finish watching whenever I see you too together.
Thanks so much ! I truly appreciate that
That’s amazing to me that, people that are not indigenous to a place can come there, and then not allow the indigenous people into their communities pretty sick
It is the indigenous Kenya people's fault for allowing that & not the Indians
@@MrErickXxXxXplaying victim again ...if Kenya reacts it become an issue
There is no area in Kenya where Indians reside and native are not allowed, show me one
@@andeyo1it's mostly some gated area or apartments that only desire vegetarians so no BBQs and such.
@@samuelwainaina1155 It is illegal in Kenya do denies somebody real estate rental or purchase based on ethnicity, race , gender and religion
Great video, Ivain. Beautiful conversation. It was great to see Priya and Susan again. I learned a lot from this video. Thank you for your time and effort in making this beautiful video 👍👍👍.
Thanks a lot for watching!!
Thanks much for making this video really well done
Priya @20:33 should have noted that the current UK Prime Minister has roots in Indian Kenyan. His biography states that his father, Yashvir Sunak, was born and raised in the Colony and Protectorate of Kenya, which is present-day Kenya. I have Indian Kenyan neighbors in the Upper Eastern region of Kenya. They have truly integrated into the local community, and some have even married locals. These individuals speak the local languages fluently while still preserving their own cultural identity, native language, and faith.
Thanks for the feedback. It’s very interesting and fascinating. Thanks so much !
But it isn't common practice for them to marry out of their community.
@@esem135
I agree that it isn't common, but if you visit Kathama ka Indi in Meru, a place literally named "Indian place," you will discover individuals of mixed Meru and Indian heritage due to their relationships. Furthermore, you will come across Indians who are fluent in Kimeru. Interestingly, one of the current Members of Parliament in Meru has Indian ancestry.
This is prove africans are the best humans........they are so welcoming
@@ekkarogie5 but still hated all over the world for only God knows why
A lot of Indians came to African countries for work during British colonization. When they were no longer needed, the British didn't pay for their fares back to India as they had promised. So many Indians just stayed because they didn't have money to go back to India. Indians from that time are found in Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, and South Africa. Many have become citizens of these African countries.
Also, there are Christians in India, Catholics and Protestants, they are religous minorities (2.3%) but they are there. The apostle Thomas is known to have gone to India to share the gospel there.
Oh Nice ! Thanks for this valuable information! Thanks for watching !
You're welcome,@@IvainTures ! Nice to see more African RUclipsrs showcasing the continent for what it truly is. From a Congolese (DRC) sister
@@zolamatingu9135 🖤
India has one of the oldest Christian communities in the world..
These are ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS who are in the UK as ministers hating other brown people to be deported
These people are proud and hateful towards locals Africans. I'm a Kenyan I know. Majority not all though hardly interact with the locals.. We've over privileged them.
They forgot about Idi Amin
Thats how Xenophobia begins the next think, you hear temples in flames.
I am white 12th or more generation born African & often experience a certain attitude towards me from mainly Pakistani Muslim people of Indian heritage. Its not just about race but often a social cultural & religious distancing from other groups.
@@seanmac-ku5uiPakistanis are not remotely of Indian heritage nor exist in Africa. We are afghans like Pashtuns
Pakistanis are afghans not indians
Another lovely share, I was born and brought up in Kenya but there are many things I do not know about Kenya since I moved away so many years ago.
I think things like living in Langata are reserved(said simply)
thanks for another brilliant share my bro.Enjoy your time in Kenya
Thanks so much for watching and for the feedback.
Great video, great conversation it's good to see the Indian community in Kenya. Beautiful collaboration with the girls Priya and Susan 👍
Thank you so much!
I have managed to resist my attempt to make an objective comment on this vide bcos my thoughts will be very unpreasant to your audiences and the people of Kenya and Afica at large. Is this housing estate exclusive to Indians really happening in Africa? How can this happen on Black African soil with Black African leaders who are mandated to protect the human rights of its citizens across the African continent.
Very interesting question. I tried to find out more but wasn’t able to. I’ll keep digging next time I visit this chapter again. Thanks a lot for watching!
It is happening. This is just another Palestine situation happening to Black Africans.
The Indians were part of the struggle when we were fighting for our freedom. Read more about Pio Gama Pinto and the rest who fought right beside our freedom fighters. That is the reason they were allowed to stay.
@@TinakishOare you okay with Indian's living in Africa?
@@tia7765Africa doesn’t belong to Blakks..
Priya is a well knowledgeable and informed mind,,,she hasn't forgotten where she comes from and her ppl,,,a good attribute,,, with her traveling and all that she is a liberated mind,,, she's wise
Your execution is dope bro.
Thanks so much for watching! I appreciate that!
DUDE IS TRIPPING!! YOU SHOULD BE DOING A STORY ABOUT HOW INDIANS TREAT KEYANS LIKE SLAVES !!I KNOW WHY YOUR DOING THIS FOR INDIAN CLICKS BUT JUST GO AROUND KENYA AND ASK PEOPLE WHO WORKED FOR INDIANS AND HOW THEY WERE TREATED
Well at least they had a job that got them paid.. I know many without a job nor a paycheck..
@@kingknights5107 Aforeigner is exploiting citizens this why AMIN did what he did
@@kingknights5107what good is a job if it exploits u? U work very hard but get paid next to nothing. I rather be unemployed than working and killing my body and soul for peanuts. U are justifying exploitation against locals. I would never be ok with foreigners getting rich on the backs of our own 😢
@@kingknights5107What? Shame on you. Slave like working conditions violate human rights.
@@SueKim527 “slave like” working conditions is what many workers refer to their jobs for no reason at all.. Its just a figure of speech at the moment..
My Africans folks are forever always welcoming people that hate them or are their to exploit them in their countries 😢. #AfricaWakeUp
Je suis tout à fait d'accord avec toi. C'est insupportable de voir des communautés vivre loin des locaux, comme si vous êtes de la merde. On doit pas accepter cet apparteid social et économique. J étais au Kenya mais je n avais pas compris le ressentiment des locaux sur les indiens . Maintenant, les choses sont claires
You need to come out from your victimhood mentality, you need to understand that it is their house in a gated community where they collectively own each and every thing you cannot enter anyone's house without their permission.
@@ayushsingh1943 In a nation that they didnt shed blood to found but yet benefit from 🤣🤣🤣
Don't be racist
this is a very informative video
Thanks so much for watching!
The interview from my Kenyan elder there was an eye opener more so in job opportunities and treatment from both sides. In my childhood l grew up with lndian community. From my experience, they're friendly but more into traditional believes. In relationships, there parents believe more in Indian setup like Priya said. Nice content brother.
Indians moved to Kenya in 1901.After helping construct the Uganda railway from Mombasa to Kampala they did not return to India.
They do return for the bride and the bridegroom
There was a small Indian presence in Mombasa during the Vasco Da Gama era in the 1500s when the Portuguese were around in Mombasa but a majority started to move in in 1895.
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It was british gov. They sent indians who served them to other british colonies
Thank you for interesting video information peacefull living in Kenya beautifull Country
Such content is what i signed up for, pretty impressive Ivain
Thanks a lot bro!
Wow this is an amazing educational video. Love this!!! Dope video ivain✨️👋🏾
Thank you so much 🤗
Kenya is a settler colony. Lots of people were brought in from other parts of the world. UK prime minister is Kenyan origin. There are similar housing places in smaller towns like Kerugoya and Meru. Those in these closed places are mostly from the Swaminarayan/ kutchi background. Muslim Indians and Sikhs rarely segregate themselves
Yes, Jains especially do not like to mingle with other communities because of their vegan diet. It's an abomination for them to even smell meat cooking! Speaking from my experience while living in an Indian city back in the day.
They were actually not lots. Statistics show they are nor lots including what the vlogger has posted.
There are many Indians in Kisumu too
And Migori@@MsJamba09
@@MsJamba09those are Ugandan Indians whose ancestors Amin chased in 1972.
I am an Indian Kenyan being in this country for last 28 years. What information you are getting from PRIYA SHARMA is not the truth ... she needs to learn about her tribe and India. SUSAN THERE IS NO DISCRIMINATION THERE IS A CUSTOM TO FOLLOW IF YOU BE COME PURE VEG , NO EGG, MEAT, CHIKEN, FISH ... you are most welcome. So please do not use those hard words
Thanks a lot for watching! The feedback are very helpful! It’s much appreciated!
She [Priya] does not know anything. But she accepts that she does not know.
Priya has no idea and stop rubbish
@@dharmascan😮
Thanks for a very educational video. These are the types of videos I think travel RUclipsrs should be creating.
The title should be “how Indians treat Kenyan locals”
Your video editing 🔥 🙏 I like how the music match atmosphere of the video
Thank you very much!
The conversation is very interesting; I am 5th generation South African Indian, my ancestors are from South India and were brought by the British to Durban South Africa in 1860 to work on the sugar cane plantations. My ancestors worked very hard buiiding schools, temples mosques for the communtiy. I am proud of my Indian origin but I cannot live in India. I share the same sentiments with the gentlemen. Most of my family have moved out of South Africa and I now live in Australia for the last 34 years.
Why is there so much racism directed at indigenous Africans by members of your community?
The decolonization of Kenya.
It's scary how naive Africans are. Smh
@@listenup2882 my family and I have bee very kind to indigenous Africans. I have been sponsoring a child from Uganda and other parts of Africa through World Vision. I cannot comment on the behaviour of otherrs. I also assist other Kenyans currently. Unfortunately I am not able to answer your questions.
@@listenup2882 if africans, americans, britishers, chinese, japanese etc want to live separately from local indians in india we have no issue, why would i interfere in someone's life. it's their money and their choice. In india, there is parsi community( people from iran ) living separately and then there are anglo indians( british indian ) living separately in india, we have no issues with them because it does not make any sense to bother those people if they have invested their money to live separately from us then there is no need of my interference in their lives, they just want to live closer to people of their culture.
That boy at 16:23 is my client, he is very good boy and humble, and kind to his parents too, I know them.❤❤❤❤ Shout out to him.
Oh that’s what’s up. Small world. Thanks for watching bro!
It should be " how Indians treat Kenyans"...
I totally agree, they treat Kenyans so badly.
And vlogs like these keep giving them the power to continue. Like they have done Kenyans a favour to live in Kenya. Shameful.
@@swts4kik like we even need them
Kenyan the African ones can't live in that community.
I understand why India community…lot of foreign countries do that I seen Africa an Americans moved to Africa have their own community in different part of Africa continent 😅thank you Ivantures
I just subscribed! And to Priya's channel too! I love seeing this!!!!!
A lot of those Indians there in Kenya are those that were kicked out of Uganda by Idi Amin, or their descendants.
Nope, those ones mostly got offered British citizenship.
Smart man, Idi Amin Dada.
@@swts4kYou’re a terrorist sympathizer.. he was a terrorist..
@@kingknights5107 my sympathies my right. Find yours.
Nope!! Only a fraction were from Ug, and they left and now live in UK and Canada, including those who were in Kenya. Others went to TZ. That is why there are only 100,000 of them in Kenya ..a very small number.
Africa is way too nice 👍🏾 to other races & ethnicities .. GOD BLESS .. KEEP SPREADING THE LOVE ❤️ 💯
Am born and raised in kenya from somali descent i feel its ok for them to live like that teach and preserve their tradition to the generations kenyans dont have what i call tradition follow up
Owise their children will get lost same as ours i wouldnt love mu daughter to be so close and comfy with a kenyan she will end up lost at last so thats the best fpr their teenagers
Fair
speak your mind my Somali Brother
Indians basically come together and combine resources to develop the properties which they later move into. That's why it might be perceived that they live in isolation. Their togetherness is a major reason a lot of them are successful.
You mean RACISTS
Well put. They combine effort as a result they excel. it is also notable in the Kenya-Somalis nowadays. This is the one thing we have to learn from them.
Especially given how individualistic Kenyans are 😂😂😂
this is habit of Gujaratis they support each other not the other state people, they involve in all demanding business
Yes but they are racist too because they could uplift their African brothers and sisters who are ready to follow suit and would not.
Such a great video bruv, keep it up ❤
thank you for sharing this info following from Canada
Thanks so much for watching!
As in South Africa, high electric fences around the residential apartments. Still Africa.
Great info
Thanks 🙏🏽
Ivain, i got really attracted by your curiousity thats why i watched your vlog all the way to the end and subscribed to your channel. I'm Somali-Kenyan and i always wondered why Indians in Kenya have separated themselves from the rest of the Kenyan people while Kenyans are the most civilized and humble people in whole world. Try to visit Eastleigh/Nairobi where Somali people live and pls be so curious it helps and educates us cuz i know I'd never waste my time watching an entire long video thats not educative 😅😅
Thanks so much for watching the video. I’m currently out of the country, but I make sure I will do that next time. Thank you so much for the suggestion! Happy new year!
@@IvainTures pleasure brother and I wish best holidays for you and your loved ones and all the best in your career you seem a humble person and that's where all success begins.
"Why Indians in Kenya have separated themselves from the rest of the Kenyan people"
How come a member of a family goes out of joint family and set up his or her nuclear family?
Your creativity is on another level,the voiceover is dope.i enjoyed your vlogs
Thanks so much! I appreciate that!
Very interesting conversation.
Thanks for the feedback!
Great video
Thanks!
You can't enter any gated community in Kenya without an appointment, it doesn't matter it's native Kenyans, whites or indians. But as as a Kenyan I don't like these kenyan indians because they think they're better than us.
Indians are good people.. Indians bring with them economic development, jobs and progress..
@@kingknights5107 Why can't they do so in INDIA
Africans are very kind, welcoming, and friendly people. I just don't like the apartheid attitudes and systems these foreigners have brought and created in the continent.
@@michaelcody3960 Indians belong to the world.. Indians are the only truly global population out there..
@@kingknights5107no they bring exploitation only while paying locals very low wages barely spending money with locals and always sending
Money bk home to develop india. There very unpatriotic. Only loyal to india. Tbh there just leeching off Africa
That was an interesting discussion
Thanks for watching!
They don't allow any Kenyans to live there? That was DEEEEEP!!!
Very Deep indeed!
Mean
because many peoples didn't see any african in our country 😑😑😑 you are very rare in our country. I have seen few peoples in my country and they are living peacefully .😶😶😶😶
Africa have rich diversity good work keep it up God bless 🙏 your and your family
@oromosheikormo6964: You mean black people are too nice to other races while other races are not so nice to them. But I believe that is changing now and it's going to be at their peril. Black people are waking up now
As a kenyan who's travelled to Europe, India, and America. My personal opinion is that many indian kenyans (not all) discriminate against black africans and look down on them.
I travel to India every three years. I can't speak highly enough of the warmth and friendlies I've experienced. While living in the UK, some of my closest friends where indian.
But here in kenya, maybe due to history. All I can say is it is sad as we all could learn from each other.
This is such a unique view of Kenya love it
I love your content
Thanks so much for watching!
The class system is very strong in the Indian Community. The lighter skin Indians do discriminate against the darker skin Indians; and at the same time, they do not share much in common.
You need to come out from your victimhood mentality, you need to understand that it is their house in a gated community where they collectively own each and every thing you cannot enter anyone's house without their permission.
Bro I don't understand where you get all this nonsense, as a Indian I can tell you we don't have any colour discrimination, my skin colour is brownies-black and my sister is white 😂😂😂.
@@ayushsingh1943
Your first cmt is a copy and paste. Hey.. you don't even know why indians are living in former colonies of brits. I know why. Well your country is hiding the fact that your people served brits and helped colonialism of them.
1.4 mil indians served and fought for brits in colonial days,buddy. India was the only colony of brits who served them in mass willingly
Hey.. indians were such a patriotic society
Beautiful conversation
Thanks 🙏🏽
THANKS TO SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦 AFRICAN'S AND INDIAN'S ARE WORKING TOGETHER ❤️ IN AL WORK'S OF LIVE ❤🇿🇦
Now go to India and look for Africans that have been given such privileges. Good luck with that.
False Equivalency.. It was largely Indians who have came to Africa, while Africans were send off to the Americas..
😂 yea that’s pretty much non existent
Africans are treated like crap anywhere outside of Africa
Marawa did a vlog about the black people in India who are called Sidis and they are treated like garbage in India. It broke my heart. Black people are the only race that doesn't stick together. This is our weakness around the world. This is why we are the laughing stocks of the world.
if africans, americans, britishers, chinese, japanese etc want to live separately from local indians in india we have no issue, why would i interfere in someone's life. it's their money and their choice. In india, there is parsi community( people from iran ) living separately and then there are anglo indians( british indian ) living separately in india, we have no issues with them because it does not make any sense to bother those people if they have invested their money to live separately from us then there is no need of my interference in their lives, they just want to live closer to people of their culture.
Hi greetings to you showing video about indians in Kenya, I'm South African Indian we share the same culture, traditions, religion.
I am an Indian living in Toronto for last 30 years.I am shocked that racism is practiced in Kenya.🇰🇪 THIS must stop 🛑 or what happened in Uganda 🇺🇬 under IDI Amin.But Priya you are talking about caste system.
I do agree 💯. That is called Self_inflicted harm without Intending it🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴
Where exactly? I have no idea as a kenyan
You live in Toronto n you know racism practice by Indians in Kenya. Wow.
Please share what you know of their experience or what they endured there also.
B4 jump to conclusions.
Or do you just see a video with a housing community built by magic and not knowing the reason for it ?
U said you are an Indian living in Toronto. Do u mean u are from India?
Or are you an Indian Guyanese instead? Or, an Indian Trinidadian?
If you are from Trinidad for Eg. Then wouldn’t that mean u are Indian Trinidadian?
@@susankarambu489 Mauritius is the most Indian country in Africa and the most richest country in Africa
At 26:10. She is completely exposed and forced to admit that she has abysmal knowledge of her own religion and society after she started boasting about her own cast. I think she wasn't even asked the most fundamental question like the nature of God that the Hindus believe in. She represents the naivety and incompetence of an average Hindu woman who can't tell or convince people about their entire religious tradition. It is irrespective of the fact that the Hinduism has the unarguably the most sophisticated conception of God as Brahman as mentioned in the Vedas. Christians worshipping a human being called Jesus and Muslims killing the Kafirs for Muhammad as a prophet subvert the basic concept of God.
You’re nutz..
An extremely informative vlog, your best yet in my view. I watched it over three days, and would have watched more. I'm Jamaican so anything about the motherland attracts my interest. There is just so much to unpack.
First, I wish the African residents in India, the Siddis, enjoyed as much acceptance. Generally, the Indian presence in Africa, is a relative success, when compared to the British playing God, and imposing their will on other innocent peoples around the globe. Case in point, the Jews in Palestine, the Rohingyas in Myanmar, enslavement of my African ancestors, and countless other atrocities and violations.
In praise of your efforts as a vlogger, were I 45 years younger, I would certainly entertain thoughts of relocating to the motherland, and Kenya especially. Kenya's standards compared to Ghana and others, are very impressive, despite the atrocities endured.
Thank you so much for watching. I agree wholeheartedly. Kenya is an amazing country and there’s so much to see and learn about the motherland. I truly appreciate your time watching this. It is certainly a subject that I will revisit again in the future. Thanks for the feedback.
South Africa has the largest Indian community outside India,a population of about 7 million,most of them living in Kwazulu Natal province.
Actually 1.56 million people latest statistics, Mainly present in Natal Kwazulu. Th north east coastal area.
@seanmac-ku5ui the richest country in Africa is Mauritius which is 70% Indian
Population of South African 🇿🇦 Indians is around 1.6 million; check www.statssa.gov.za
No more caste system but she is very emphatic that she is of a caste. This still exists!
Just know that the UK prime minister, Rishi Sunak, is an East African (father born in Kenya & mother in Tanzania). He should be proud to embrace his African heritage.
Is he doing anything for his birth place
He would never good luck with that 😂
Yet he is one the most xenophobia prime minister that UK ever had. while at same time being a son of an immigrant parents. This is a pure definition of selling your soul and who you are for money and power. This is why Ethiopians look down on them they're willing to do anything for money. 🪳🪳🪳
Rishi is from a Punjabi Indian origin family, his parents just grew up in East Africa but were ethnically Indian.. Rishi doesn’t have ANY African ancestry
There is segregation in Kenya based on income (those with economic advantages) and those who are in a different class, they live in various communities in Nairobi.
****Ivain, make sure you visit Black Indians in India. They are called the Siddis. India marginalized them into the mountain. Their living condition is far from the good life of Indians in Kenya. They have been in India since the 1800s.
Thanks for the feedback! One day, I’ll make it to India. My goal with my vlogs isn’t to compare ills, judge or denigrate.
There are injustices all over the world. I simply want to expose some unknown facts that I discover during my travels. There’s good and bad in every country and the challenge is to strike a balance and not denigrate or judge complex issues I don’t fully understand. Thanks for watching!
Nonsense.. Siddis get free land and free everything..
@@kingknights5107 Yeah, welfare. How about we put you in a "reservation" and allow the Siddis to thrive in mainstream India.
@@HoodsGlobal Siddis do thrive in modern India.. They’re lawyers, doctors, politicians etc etc..
@@kingknights5107 Give us 10 names for example.
Please, don't blame the Indians, they didn't force themselves into any countries. The extreme pain and suffering they had to overcome in a promised land. However, Indians are the real children of God as they don't have problem settling anywhere in the world with maximum results of good living. In general we are all human beings and nothing will beat to live with a little bit of kindness towards each other as our Precious God knows the best for everyone. Live with love is the perfect answer to all our ills. God bless you all. 🙏.
Fun fact!,,,,,,heard you mention the British PM, he actually has roots in the Kenyan Indian community as well.
Imagine being an Xenophobia while being a Son of an immigrant parents at the same time. Talk about selling your soul for money and power.🪳🪳🪳
I love your conversation with the guy in the car.
Thanks a lot ! I appreciate you watching!
Does susan have a youtube account?
Hi Ivan lots of indians living in Jamaica 🇯🇲
True true. Thanks for watching!
Yeah but they are so racist to the locals lets talk about that instead!!!!!!
keep ur mayopic opion to urself
@@UNSCRIPTEDSHAWNRAYyou don't like the truth 😂
How is that possible when they account for only 1 in 300
@@gibson2675 ohh you wouldn't know until it has happened to you
Utter rubbish, Kenyan Indian's r very much Kenyans just like the rest of us n the nonsense of racism is neither here nor there. Their contribution to the Kenyan economy is unmatched esp manufacturing, Real estate, hospitality etc
The most racist group of people in Kenya. Kenyans are friendly by nature, but they can always spot racial and class discrimination, and unwillingness to assimilate. That's a fact. An Indian will leave you out of a promotion to give it to an Indian relative from India who you have taught on the job, pay them better than natives. On a positive note, Indians have consolidated their investments and have made it possible for most of Kenya to industrialized, that means jobs.
Industrialization must be return to local Kenyans the foreign banks contributed to this by giving big loans to Indians and very little to the natives
Kenyan Indians fought hard for Kenyan Independence.. Kenya owes a lot to the Kenyan Indians.. There is no Kenya without Tribe #44/Kenyan Indians..
@@kingknights5107 Kenyans have been here before your British master imported you the IMMIGRANT LABOUR When the master left you should have followed suit.
@@kingknights5107 did your tribe go to war with MAUMAU. what a misguided thought
@@Eunicemindfulmusing We have vanquished our enemies..
Ivan there is a heavy Indian presence in the West Indies and South America. In Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, Suriname and some in Jamaica and Belize as well in Africa where they were taken to Kenya, South Africa and the Mauritius Islands. The British imported Indians under contract from India as indentured laborers after Slavery was abolished because the formerly Enslaved Africans refused to work on the sugar plantations even if they would be paid to do so. They also worked to help the British to build the Railroads in Africa.The terms of the contract was for a period of five years and they were promised a return trip back to India. Some eventually returned but most stayed the majority of which were of the Dalits or what was considered from the lower cast. The indentured service was also offered to Portuguese from Madeira and Cape Verde and Chinese a well at different period. The indentured labors were able to keep their name , culture,religion and to some extent language as opposed to what was not afforded the formerly enslaved Africans.
Very interesting! Thanks for pointing this out!
Your info on the Indian Indentured Labourers to British Guiana by saying the majority were Dalits is very very wrong/ Unfounded.
I never heard that word in Guyana at all. Until saw it on the Internet about 8 - 10 yrs ago
Can I ask u a few questions to back up how u came up with that description?
1. From which State or States in India, that said majority you described came from to Guyana?
2. What language was their Mother Tongue?
3. Which old records/authentic source show that majority were Dalits?
Usually these records are kept in National archives.
Is it from there you got your info?
Who wrote the History on said Majority you stated, in question?
@@colleencolleen4665
U put out information here for people n history that I suppose you would have facts to back up n share it the same.
Thus, my few simple questions to you, in comment a while ago. I am not seeing your answers with the facts as yet.
Anyway, I did know the factual answers
We have true records in archives of said specific Indian Guyanese history. I had asked you.
The Indian Indentured Labourers to British Guiana were brought from many different States of Bharat/ India.
However, mainly, MAJORITY came from the Agricultural Districts of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, India.
Whom were Bhojpuri speaking (mother tongue) and from the Ahir caste: Farmers in India.
So, can you kindly recheck my query to you and please share how you came up such wrong n misleading info you put out here? Thanks
@@colleencolleen4665
The Indians (Indentured) to British Guiana coming mainly from Agricultural Districts of Bihar n Uttar Pradesh ( farming caste ), was how Guyana, South America, came to have stated Rice Plantations. It is how, we all were able to eat rice in Guyana.
You guys need to visit guyana in south America, 50 % of the population are Indians ,the rest are Africans, today Indians in guyana are from 6 or 7 generation, we were all born here but out for parents came from India in the 1800, here in guyana Africans and Indian lives together like brothers and sisters for the most part, we are not racist like those Indians from Kenya or other parts of Africa that keeps to themselves, here in guyana black and Indians marriage happen all the time, we even celibate each other festivals, guyana is truly a special place, im Indian btw , guyana south America is definitely worth a visit.
Lies.
To East Indian descendants in Guyana, there has always been Anti Indian racism n crimes robberies including hate crimes
Also there is Pro Black political Organization that fuels division all the time.
Why not say the truth. Also you are wrong about those Indians in Kenya or across Africa as racist.
Wow!, I would love to visit Guyana (from an Indian South African 🇿🇦)
Of course young people are friendly. They don't want to appear racist. They know whats up and want to be kool❤
And are you OK with this? These other nations who are in Africa for more than one generation are quite at home in Africa but the Siddis - Africans in India after 500 years, are STILL treated like outsiders and when they speak the native common language, Indians are shocked and ask how they come to know that. Plus they suffer apartheid in India (on top of the caste system which exists defacto) - and needless to say the Indians are most inhospitable to them. But you seem quite pleased to welcome these nations to Africa - who treat Africans - in Africa - as though they are 3rd class citizens! When and how will we ever learn, African?
Siddis are slaves that ran away and hid in the forests from their colonial masters.. 99.99% of Indians are unaware of what a Siddi is.. India is a very big country - the largest with the most population..
@mikirose2598 Most of them will never because they are so mentally enslaved and they just can't see the end of the tunnel. So very Sad.
Population of Indian is as big as the whole of Africa. It is complex like Africa. You are simply copy pasting your colonial experience into India. We Hindus are second class in India.
Watch videos of Siddis, they love India
@@ShazzenAbid If that is so it is only because it is all they have known.
Ivain ! Are you still in Kenya ?
Great video ,Sir .🙏🇿🇦🙏
Thanks so much for watching!
@@IvainTures currently watching a video on Mozambique .Great stuff ,Sir.
Kenyans are very tolerant people, even politically finally Kikuyus and Luos have learnt to live together, i think most Kenyans don't like Indians in general but neither do Indians like us. But we get along since we don't have a bad history compared to with European or among ourselves. Humans have the same problems world wide.
It's like this: Indians can live anywhere in Kenya. I've never heard of an Indian being denied residency in any part of Kenya, but the young Indian lady in the video just mentioned Kenyans not being allowed to live in certain areas occupied by Indians. In Kenya, not India.
You need to come out from your victimhood mentality, you need to understand that it is their house in a gated community where they collectively own each and every thing you cannot enter anyone's house without their permission.
You should ask them how they treat native Kenyans it's just that Kenyans are calm and collective people.
The amount of ignorance and misinformation displayed by the lady on 31:00 to 31:30 , really tells how much education is really needed for our Indians and also for the foreigners so as to understand the cultural and social history and heritage of India, else these half baked venom is only tarnishing the indian and hindu civilization.
For you Ivan , i would only pray that you consult an religious expert on matters related to hindu faith, so as to explain our faith and society, and not fall for any cultural misappropriation.
P.S. visit any swami narayan temple, since you are from U.S
Good idea! I will do that. Thanks for watching!
Ilike the guy speaking since and truth
Hello ivain how you doin bruv
Indian community in Uganda was so racist to locals unfortunately our president idi Amin deported all of them some relocated to Kenya from what iread about and we are proud of idi Amin we dont deal with this segregation here❤
@Alkebulan256. agree
That's why your country is so developed today. So many manufacturing units so many jobs. Thanks to idi.
Indians were not racist in Uganda either. Nor, anywhere else in the world.
They wanted to protect their Indian Culture. This is a right for any race of People too.
Indians are not racist people. They are industrious n enterprising love to build n show some progress.
I am from the West Indies n loving my Ancestral Indian Culture. Saddened I dont have the Language.
Our Ancestors faced similar struggles n injustices from some anti-Indian racist here also.
This is how they pressured the Indians and forced out communication among them with their own Indian languages: Hindi Bhojpuri, Bengali, Tamil and Urdu
The Indian Culture is very rich n signifcantly great that helps them with guidelines to develop n progress fast.
You see, the World saw how well Indians in general ( have poor Indians too ) work hard n brilliamt, to progress / develop in Africa.
Have Faced with the envy and jealousy also hate for their hard earned successes.
Idi Amin made a doucumentary that he was possessed woth demons, that he heard the voices in his head telling him what to do.
So he made Ugandan Africans stole every Indian house, all their buildings n properties.
Please Watch another Documentary by CBC 's Omar Sachadina.
It shows the world, that in just few years only, Amin s people destroyed those same houses shops n buildings which tney stole from Indian Ugandans.
From large buildings they wrecked to shanty shacks with bags for doors.
Ugandan Africans ended up loosing n suffered more. For carrying out those evil deeds against the Indians.
@@shivamparashar6334we are very ok 👌
As Susan get in the vibe change
In case anyone is is curious.
1. Cast system is social issue not religious. Religiously there are vernas as she described the 4 vernas but they are not birth based and they are not for discimination. It was only a way to define what work how Many ppl are doing and how to do it correctly but later people turned it into discrimination
2. There is only 1 God in hinduism often refered as "pram brahm" but since the concept of param brahm is so vast thats why it is further divided in several forms of God (different faces but same God) to explain several concepts of nature in easier way. The God in hinduism is actually "nerakar" (without any form) but to understand it better with our limited brain we give it a form. Those who reach higher level of wisdom they do not need a form as They can understand the God in its raw form. The entire motive of hinduism is to understand the ultimate truth (God) and gain salvation (freedom from rebirth). It is famously said by adi shankracharye "brahm satye jag mithya" (only brahm is truth, everything else is illusion or relative reality). We belive that world is as we Want to see it and we are caught in cage of materialistic illusion. Ones u get out of it then u will murge inside param brahm.
To be honest this is a HUGE concent which can not be explained in few words. We belive in different forms of God not different Gods. We worship devinity is different forms as suitable for our own knowledge and nature.
3. Status of women, men, trans etc is same in hinduism. There is no difference as such. They all can become preasts, warrior what so ever and There are many female preasts in hinduism. There are matrilineal socirties as well. Though largely our society is patriarchal and definetly NOT an ideal hindu society. Places in India which are more impacted by invasions are more patriarchal. Those who are more treditional are less patriarchal.
Differences of sexes is recognized in hinduism same as every other human can be different from each but their souls are not different and thats why there is excuse to take away anyone's human rights. Society is expected to be designed for all not just for men. If due to biology women face more difficulties then it is job of the ruler and society to help them out without taking away their human Rights.
Yes, women can be religious teachers (guru), righi (saints) etc as well. When lord Ram was talking about leaving Ayodhya at that time his father asked Mother Sita to stay back and handle the thrown but She refused to do so and wanted to go with lord Ram. This shows that women are not forbidden from being rulers either. Its not the only example. Yes even at that time society was not ideal but hinduism definetly does not forbids women from taking up any position in society and getting protection is their right not favour. It is famously said in hindu scriptures "where Women are honored, divinity blossoms there, and where women are dishonored, all action no matter how noble remain unfruitful."
Child marriage is also forbidden in hinduism. Women are expected to remain brahmacharyi (celibate) until she turns 18 or 16 if she completes her education early but mostly still she will have to wait till 18 before entering in house holder's life
I'm enjoying your videos bro❤😊 perfect English
How come no one , not any other RUclipsr Kenyans has never talked about this . This is first time learning this .
I have a big big problem the Black kenyans are not allowed to live in the same neighborhood with the Indians. How can the leaders, president allowed that to happen. So in other words there is segregation and racism in Kenya. why would black people from the Caribbean, Europe, America or any other parts of the world want to reside in Kenya other such racist conditions, if people can't live as one in Kenya. Can black people go to India and tell the natives that they are not allowed to live amongst them. NO. This is extremely upsetting and need to change. I was planning to relocate to Kenya but I would be damn if I would go there to invest my money and live under such racism and segregation. WHY the hell as a black person, my ancestors are from Africa relocate to Kenya to live as a second class citizen. That's friggin NONSENSE!!!
AS A KENYAN I DON'T SEE THE NEED TO LIVE CLOSE TO THE INDIANS. WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME CULTURE OR RELIGION. THEY ARE THE MINORITIES AND SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO LIVE CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. STOP WITH YOUR VICTIM MENTALITY NONESENSE.
I would be traumatized living with Indian majority estate.
Actually in Gujarat there is an African village full of African peoples.
India have African villages in gujrat,south india with free ration free medical,also education..
@@vikramgurung3043 So dishonest. They are outcasts. "Untouchables," as you classify them.
hi Ivan i wish to meet you,am in Kenya
32:13 it abolished by indian law not by the people
They practice it everywhere they go
About reservation we call it representation just like our constitution they act like this all the time shes victimized herself . They are rich their ancestors are rich and they believe that we got less marks then them they own most wealth of india .
Our people work as slaves and labours even today clean their rich homes and do manual scavenging. Its not 90% and 30% its almost as same as 70% only in government sector while most important all things are private owned so theres nothing like this .
Love you ❤❤❤ you confront her nicely
About marriage they don't Marry in lower caste
And also if someone do that they kill lower caste .
India seems to be a very complex and fascinating country. I can’t wait to visit. Thanks so much for watching!
@@IvainTuresin orrisa state
Go and meet bonda tribe In India . If you go India then you must visit bonda tribe
Ok sounds good! Thanks 🙏🏽
How do they treat the Kenyans
Good question 🙋.through my experience depends on where they comes from ,punjab people are more welcoming, kind and even mix with local communities, Patel is very hard to trust, and can be two faced Patel never honest like punjab.
East Africa has a lot of Indians
Every country on earth has a lot of Indians..
@@kingknights5107 They are remain in India
the uk prime minister is of kenyan/indian decent. thought you should know.
Thanks 🙏🏽
Sorry to say but Priya don't have any factual knowledge about Hinduism except her being Brahmin . She is totally wrong about caste because none of hindu text have word caste. Vedas mentions 4 VARNA which are Brahmin, Kshatriya , vaishaya and Shudra but none is inferior to any. VARNA is decided on basis of "GUNA" I.e Quality. for example one of biggest Empire - Maurya Empire from SHUDRA caste. Caste is a Portuguese word given by colonizers.
Thanks for the explanation. It’s very helpful!
Nice content ... like the back story of indian in africa
Thanks so much for watching!
How are Kenyans treated in India? That's what i want to know.
Are there even Kenyans in India?? I’ve watched several vloggers who visit India including Americans and Europeans and let me tell you, they come out of there saying they won’t go back! Why? I don’t even know! But from I was told by my Indian friends who I work with, is that India is no place for foreigners in general! It’s hard for them too that’s why you will find them in almost every other country where it’s peaceful and clean, just not in India.
@@picsandvidstv1348You got to be able to speak the local language in India, without that life would be very hard..