I hate to disapoint, but the 7 and 9G tronics are off the table. This is because their controls are paired to the car, part of the drive authorisation process (called FBS), and are embedded in the hydraulic valve body!
Hello @RAND_ASH I've just come across your channel and wanted to ask about this. I have a w639 Viano and was hoping to change the box to a modern w447 722.9 or equivalent. So I take it from your comment it won't be possible?
We sure do hope this does catch some well deserved attention and open up doors for people who would like to expand the possibilities of these gearboxes and by extension the vehicles associated with them. Keep in mind this is all open source, open implementation and if someone really wants to they can build their own from scratch. Hopefully this kind of open door, grassroots approach to the vehicle modding scene will be more and more prevalent as time goes on. (Also yes, there will be assembled boards available for those who either don't have the knowhow, time or just CBA'd to do it themselves.. for a reasonable fee.. 😂)
Amazing work! I have a 2003 W220 S350 and hate how it shifts and would love to try this out at some point. Now if only have more time and take on developing a digital cluster for the car that looks like those ones in the new generation cars 😅 . THAT I WOULD LOVE TO be a tester for!
Respect for your tremendous work. What are your recomandations for an 722.649 transmission installed in place of 722.666 ( W5J400 ), obviouslly it needs an software upgrade as the AMG version clutches have more plates and the valve body has a higher holding pressure calibration.
Very well said & Kudos to your hardwork. Could you let me know how do i decode canbus of TCU ..let me know what kind ( software & hardware tools needed
Such a cool project, and it makes me jealous how much further along you are than me in embedded/canbus stuff. Found my interest too late in life I guess lol.
I found Ash's project when I was about 1/4 through making my own open source TCU - my first time ever working with any of these things, yeah he was definitely further along than I was but I've learned so much more just though association and participation than I did on my own! It's never to late to give it a try!
@@lexistarchild9367 unfortunately I chose a bmw 335 (n54) for my "fun" car platform. Which has been more or less solved in a few different ways, way better than I can do as a first project haha. Also...it involves more breaking down/diy repairs, because bmw, than getting to tinker.
Are you familiar with which Crystal goes bad on the TCM for the E320 supposedly there's some Crystal that crumbles and falls apart that can be replaced and repairs the unit?
Your doing a great job. Just applied with my w140 300td. If you need more data from the om606 I’m happy to help. I know a lot of guys looking for a good tcu for there superturbodiesel and you could have a great solution for them.
Came back from a year ago. I dont own anything Chrysler. Just here for the experience. Keep up the work with open source stuff if you enjoy the people pushing you in the right direction with your research. Very cool editing of the videos as well. Could use more information, believe it or not.
Awesome work! I'm searching for a solution to retrofit my W124 (with CAN!) with an NAG1 and make use of the existing CAN. Are there any plans to integrate such a setup? I'd happily volunteer in supporting the development.
I'd love to purchase the board or a finished TCM from you at some point. I want to use a DID1 ECU with the TCM on a standalone powertrain consisting of a OM647 and 722.6 .
wow amazing work! would be cool if you can bypass the EIS so that you can create your own custom key and never again have to programm it at the dealer. :D
I have a1998 e300td that ill be turning u the power, but would like too make the trans is capable of handling the new power. Do you offer tcu reprograming, if so how much does it cost to send you my tcu and have it reprogrammed. I would also like shift points raised and firmness improved.
Waiting so hard for release for my Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Crd with the 722.6 .....i hate the original Shiftpoints...i drives like a Honda Civic and doesnt use his low rpm power/torque....and that manual mode is everthing but definitly no manual mode. I already filled beta formular twice...but had no luck till now 😢
Why not shoot us a submission to the beta tester application form in the video description?? Get in on the ground floor! lol I already have two of these modules, one for myself and one for a friend and the experience has been lovely so far, don't let the "beta" title scare you off, it's very close to a well polished and functional module at the moment - and it's only getting better. The development is actually very active and rapid. Have a look, can't hurt right?
Well the answer is... maybe? We would need a platform to test and confirm, that's a MSE ECU, correct? This was a MSA25.1 and while I suspect they are similar it's hard to say without giving it a try. We are definitely interested in expanding our testers userbase as wide as we can to hopefully support every iteration of Mercedes that used a 722.6. If you have that platform and would be willing to give testing a shot let us know 😁
Are you still looking for Jeep testers, Google Form still only says Mercedes. I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee Laredo that has the 722.6 it's just called the NAG-1 or W5A 580 more commonly here.
Would there be a way with this TCM to retofit Paddle shifter into a car that doesnt have them. I thinking that maybe the buttons are added to the steering and the signal is sent to the TCM via Can bus with a way to put the tcm in learn mode to learn the signal of the upshift and down shift buttons
@@RANDASH let me know when you're live so I can order one of these units from you. I sent in a beta application also. I'm really interested in your module. Currently I'm looking up some part numbers to try retrofit some buttons into my car. Was able to enable manual mode on my original tcm via vedimo but I don't have paddle shifters.
Silly question.... Why does this project exist ?. Is there an issue with the Merc TCM around these years ?. Drivability issues ?. The only Merc ive ever had was a 2016 A220d AMG Line DCT with the 2.2d OM651. When i first got it brand new the DCT was just terrible. Over the 4yrs i had that car it had 12 software updates. Only on the final update 3 years in was the gearbox a delight to use. Clearly the DCT is a whole new ballgame but what it showed me was the poor software development from Mercedes and units being released far too early before they were ready.
The 722.6 is always known for grandpa style shifts, and after 10+ years, the gearboxes wear down beyond that which the stock TCM can compensate for. Those are the main reasons
They're really designed to be used with the OEM ECU - not quite like some of the other aftermarket solutions out there for the 722.6/NAG-1 That being said. if your aftermarket ECU emulates an OEM ECU in operation, execution and CANBUS protocols then you could - because the two modules would assume they're factory original equipment.
@@ewyna4380 Yes, this is correct! A lot of our testers are using custom ECU maps AND one of the main goals is to help the 722.6 "keep up" with modified and higher-output-than stock engine tunes. That's the main reason for the transition to the E55 as the main developers platform -- so we can focus more on performance, enhanced shift behavior, speed and overall driver experience -- either in stock or modified vehicles.
What a genius
Waiting for the final release! Thank you for your work!
As mentioned, you are more than welcome for now to apply to the beta form, I'm relaxing the rules on who can/can't apply, so you might get an email😉
@@RANDASH I dont think I can be that helpful because I dont drive the car very often, so I cant provide much info testing the tcu 👍🏽
Congrats on E55 !
This is seriously seriously impressive.....
Those of us with 722.9's are excited by your work and hope that you venture into that one as well. Great job captain, exciting to see some TCU mods!
I hate to disapoint, but the 7 and 9G tronics are off the table. This is because their controls are paired to the car, part of the drive authorisation process (called FBS), and are embedded in the hydraulic valve body!
Hello @RAND_ASH
I've just come across your channel and wanted to ask about this. I have a w639 Viano and was hoping to change the box to a modern w447 722.9 or equivalent. So I take it from your comment it won't be possible?
Brilliant work as usual! The hydraulics section actually made sense to me this time 😂 Cheers!
Thank you so much for doing this! The esp button is a game changer too! With the right marketing you could sell alot of theese!
We sure do hope this does catch some well deserved attention and open up doors for people who would like to expand the possibilities of these gearboxes and by extension the vehicles associated with them. Keep in mind this is all open source, open implementation and if someone really wants to they can build their own from scratch.
Hopefully this kind of open door, grassroots approach to the vehicle modding scene will be more and more prevalent as time goes on.
(Also yes, there will be assembled boards available for those who either don't have the knowhow, time or just CBA'd to do it themselves.. for a reasonable fee.. 😂)
After replacing my conductor plate i’ve become fascinated with this trans/controller.
Love the work, can’t wait for the general release.!
way to go
Awesome project and awesome videos!
Wow. You are amazing!
W203 C55 2005, I need your skills!
Great video! Thanks for an amazing explanation of hydraulics!
Can't wait to hear more on this project! I've got a 02 ML500 I plan on boosting and have been having TCM issues with it. Sure is a game changer.
This is just awesome! I cant wait to try it! Noone can make proper tune for 1000nm+ for stock TCU! Hope this will handle it👍 amazing work man!
Insane! Love your work! Hope to get your tuck soon!!!
Отличная работа!
Amazing work! I have a 2003 W220 S350 and hate how it shifts and would love to try this out at some point.
Now if only have more time and take on developing a digital cluster for the car that looks like those ones in the new generation cars 😅 . THAT I WOULD LOVE TO be a tester for!
.... that really would be something wouldn't it...? 🤭 you might wanna hit the subscribe button if you haven't yet 🤣
Maybe that idea is on the menu for my E55😉, subscribe and stay tuned 😁
@@RANDASH i’m subbed here, follow you on twitter and on twitch 🤣
I’m really jealous of the bmw e46 cluster from id4motion 🥲
Great work 👏 impressive 👏
Respect for your tremendous work. What are your recomandations for an 722.649 transmission installed in place of 722.666 ( W5J400 ), obviouslly it needs an software upgrade as the AMG version clutches have more plates and the valve body has a higher holding pressure calibration.
Very impressive work indeed.
Very well said & Kudos to your hardwork.
Could you let me know how do i decode canbus of TCU ..let me know what kind ( software & hardware tools needed
Such a cool project, and it makes me jealous how much further along you are than me in embedded/canbus stuff. Found my interest too late in life I guess lol.
I found Ash's project when I was about 1/4 through making my own open source TCU - my first time ever working with any of these things, yeah he was definitely further along than I was but I've learned so much more just though association and participation than I did on my own! It's never to late to give it a try!
@@lexistarchild9367 unfortunately I chose a bmw 335 (n54) for my "fun" car platform. Which has been more or less solved in a few different ways, way better than I can do as a first project haha.
Also...it involves more breaking down/diy repairs, because bmw, than getting to tinker.
Are you familiar with which Crystal goes bad on the TCM for the E320 supposedly there's some Crystal that crumbles and falls apart that can be replaced and repairs the unit?
Your doing a great job. Just applied with my w140 300td. If you need more data from the om606 I’m happy to help. I know a lot of guys looking for a good tcu for there superturbodiesel and you could have a great solution for them.
Came back from a year ago. I dont own anything Chrysler. Just here for the experience. Keep up the work with open source stuff if you enjoy the people pushing you in the right direction with your research. Very cool editing of the videos as well. Could use more information, believe it or not.
Awesome work! I'm searching for a solution to retrofit my W124 (with CAN!) with an NAG1 and make use of the existing CAN. Are there any plans to integrate such a setup? I'd happily volunteer in supporting the development.
I'd love to purchase the board or a finished TCM from you at some point. I want to use a DID1 ECU with the TCM on a standalone powertrain consisting of a OM647 and 722.6 .
wow amazing work! would be cool if you can bypass the EIS so that you can create your own custom key and never again have to programm it at the dealer. :D
I have a1998 e300td that ill be turning u the power, but would like too make the trans is capable of handling the new power. Do you offer tcu reprograming, if so how much does it cost to send you my tcu and have it reprogrammed. I would also like shift points raised and firmness improved.
Waiting so hard for release for my Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 Crd with the 722.6 .....i hate the original Shiftpoints...i drives like a Honda Civic and doesnt use his low rpm power/torque....and that manual mode is everthing but definitly no manual mode.
I already filled beta formular twice...but had no luck till now 😢
hey! I completely forgot about that form! Check your inbox now!
Hi. Is this on the market yet? Really interested!!!
Can this be used in standalone applications? I have no mercedes electronics in my car. I have a different 722.6 controller but this seems better.
I have a clk 500, M113 engine. How can i help you, with testing?
I will get one for my w202 c230
Cant wait till your star to sell this so I can get one for my r230, will the new TCU have auto rev match on downshift?
Why not shoot us a submission to the beta tester application form in the video description?? Get in on the ground floor! lol
I already have two of these modules, one for myself and one for a friend and the experience has been lovely so far, don't let the "beta" title scare you off, it's very close to a well polished and functional module at the moment - and it's only getting better. The development is actually very active and rapid. Have a look, can't hurt right?
Decided to apply. I have swapped my stock differential for quaife LSD one.
What about late W140? Since you’ve added W210 with OM606, I guess it automatically means support for W140?
Well the answer is... maybe? We would need a platform to test and confirm, that's a MSE ECU, correct? This was a MSA25.1 and while I suspect they are similar it's hard to say without giving it a try.
We are definitely interested in expanding our testers userbase as wide as we can to hopefully support every iteration of Mercedes that used a 722.6. If you have that platform and would be willing to give testing a shot let us know 😁
@@lexistarchild9367 I certainly am! I can test on my car, but how to join testing team?
@@Андрей-б9к1и have a look in the video description, there is a Google Forms link to join the beta tester group!
@@lexistarchild9367 Thanks
So do u have it finished yet ?
Did you finish this TCU?
Are you still looking for Jeep testers, Google Form still only says Mercedes. I have a 2012 Grand Cherokee Laredo that has the 722.6 it's just called the NAG-1 or W5A 580 more commonly here.
Yes sure, apply! Just put your jeeps vin in and ignore the fact it says mercedes only atm
Awesome, will do. Could this possibly work with a speeduino in the future since they're both reprogrammable?
This guy just needs to sell the goods for everyone and££££
Question, how did you calibrate your ESP32 ADC?
ESP32 comes with calibration tables built into EFUSE. It is easy to retrieve this calibration using ESP-IDF APIs
Would there be a way with this TCM to retofit Paddle shifter into a car that doesnt have them. I thinking that maybe the buttons are added to the steering and the signal is sent to the TCM via Can bus with a way to put the tcm in learn mode to learn the signal of the upshift and down shift buttons
yes this would be quite easy to make a module to send the 1 byte CAN Frame to TCU with paddle statuses
@@RANDASH let me know when you're live so I can order one of these units from you. I sent in a beta application also. I'm really interested in your module. Currently I'm looking up some part numbers to try retrofit some buttons into my car. Was able to enable manual mode on my original tcm via vedimo but I don't have paddle shifters.
Silly question.... Why does this project exist ?. Is there an issue with the Merc TCM around these years ?. Drivability issues ?. The only Merc ive ever had was a 2016 A220d AMG Line DCT with the 2.2d OM651. When i first got it brand new the DCT was just terrible. Over the 4yrs i had that car it had 12 software updates. Only on the final update 3 years in was the gearbox a delight to use. Clearly the DCT is a whole new ballgame but what it showed me was the poor software development from Mercedes and units being released far too early before they were ready.
The 722.6 is always known for grandpa style shifts, and after 10+ years, the gearboxes wear down beyond that which the stock TCM can compensate for. Those are the main reasons
Can I use this if I have a standalone ECU?
They're really designed to be used with the OEM ECU - not quite like some of the other aftermarket solutions out there for the 722.6/NAG-1
That being said. if your aftermarket ECU emulates an OEM ECU in operation, execution and CANBUS protocols then you could - because the two modules would assume they're factory original equipment.
@@lexistarchild9367 Could be used with stock ecu but with custom mapping on it, correct?
@@ewyna4380 Yes, this is correct! A lot of our testers are using custom ECU maps AND one of the main goals is to help the 722.6 "keep up" with modified and higher-output-than stock engine tunes. That's the main reason for the transition to the E55 as the main developers platform -- so we can focus more on performance, enhanced shift behavior, speed and overall driver experience -- either in stock or modified vehicles.
@@lexistarchild9367 Sounds good and with rev matching this will make one nice package.
@@lexistarchild9367 this seems very limiting for a project with “endless possibilities”
M112K?
113k :)