Thoughts on new Ability and Armor tuning for final shape
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ballidorse wrathweavers gonna have a massive glow-up, giving access to frost armor without a harvest aspect means you can run iceflare bolts for your super alongside frostpulse
Yep, pair it with chains or fractures and you can keep up frost armor indefinitely. Sounds good for an aggressive build
I love seeing a RUclipsr who actually mentions how coldsnaps aren’t working properly rather than calling them broken upon being frozen once and asking for a nerf
It’s not cold snaps that are broken it’s Osimos
@@tomakai3460There is always one of you nerds around. Shoo, people are enjoying themselves.
Haha the truth hurts! 😂
@@Asgaardiangatekeeperhe’s right lol. If you think he isn’t you’ve never tried coldsnaps without them lol
Far as pve goes, bubbles still never gonna see play, and as far as pvp goes, now that I’ll be able to get other supers in trials. I ain’t gonna be using it anymore lol
with 2:25 I wholeheartedly agree that crabwalk is so jarring when you see it that its impossible to realise what the player is doing because their animation is hidden behind chaotic rubberbanding.
There's nothing crazier than seeing "8 seconds ago" on a new video
What about a frog with a tiny rake tidying up his little swamp front yard? Would that not be crazier?
@@rictuserectus6686 Fair enough mate I guess
One thing I see no-one else mentioning is the Behemoth melee tracking buff. It already tracks super aggressively if you know what to do (release melee button when near enemies). It did NOT need a tracking buff, and on paper, the buff could be quite oppressive
im so fucking excited for it, we're gonna be seeing even more absurd lunges from Shiver Strike lmfao
I think it will help shiver strike more regularly register damage. About 40% of shiver strike attempts in PVP net no damage despite giving the audio cue and knocking back opponents
Your average destiny player is not good enough to effectively pilot Behemoth so I don't think the melee buffs will be significant enough to get people to play Behemoth more if they aren't already above average especially considering bungie specifically targeted the jackasses that run triple Behemoth Behemoth to spam neutral OS and play passive as hell with a nerf. All and all feels like if you like Behemoths full kit it will be good changes overall but it if you just play it to be a cheese lord better players will still stomp you. I wish more changes were like that but no let's nerf shit that isn't really meta and leave the easiest to use shit with fast ttks unchanged. Who needs skill in pvp right? Especially with endgame loot and a competitive playlist
I hate shiver strike so much. I really was just hoping they'd give a new melee option
@@Cameron00it’s one of the key consistent melees when used correctly. If you’re missing 40% of your melees with it, it’s pure doing something wrong.
"I'm not reading this, you already probably listened to aztecross read it" true enough, just give us the juicy bits.
Super happy to see they're adding more private match options finally. I'd love it if people used Fireteam Finder to host private match lobbies for fun using various rulesets. And it means Bungie could add even more in-depth options for us to mess around with in the future. It would be so great to sort of relive the Halo 3/Halo Reach custom games days again lol
I just find it incredible that bubble is somehow even worse in PvE now.
Like I didn’t think that was possible but here we are.
Yeah, and they gave the WoL functionality to Helm of Saint 14 AND WELL OF RADIANCE. You get a damage buff from Well that lingers when you leave it, that's literally WoL entire function, and theyre both 25% buffs. Well of Radiance literally replaced Bubble in its entirety, the damage resist and healing nerf don't even change much because Restoration x2 is already the strongest healing in the game and makes anything short of one-shots meaningless. Nothing is changed and Well only got better.
@NuclearRizzicist and even if you're still taking too much damage for comfort, a renewal grasps hunter could just drop a duskfield grenade and grant more resistance to everyone.. without impeding their fire or waiting 8 minutes to use that zone of influence again. Not only has bubble been replaced- its being outdone by a grenade.
10/10 would watch you solo flawless dungeons and low-man raids
Bakris + Blink + Grapple is making me shiver me timbers
22:40 Prismatic hunters can get the Bakris dodge, flawless executioner which can make them invisible and grapple. Thanks for making me aware of this, THAT is terrifying to think about.
A Cammy take to go with my dinner, nice.
I can't wait to try out bakris with blink it seems like such a fun combo.
Its gonna be pretty nuts
Community scrims with payouts sounds like incredibly fun videos to watch, I'd be very excited to check some of these tournaments out with custom rulesets.
1:12 "enhanced coldsnaps" when a slight change in the floor arrives:
With regards to farming matador, i strongly believe we'll get a craftable precision shotgun with TFS
Yeah well we've expected this for 8 months but they decided to never give us Garden of Salvation weapon refresh...
There was a kinetic precision frame shotty in one of the showcases pretty sure
I am definitely interested in hearing your take on PvE activities and how to quickly and efficiently get in and get out
2:40 i think what they meant is that cryoclasm allows your slide to always break crystals. And you will also have the extended slide (no wind ups needed) but it is on cooldown.
Kinda like icarus dash, you can use it on demand but it has a cooldown.
The last point is super huge. Knowing that you can, customize, all your private matches makes this change so refreshing to set up, as you said, scrim matches with friends and whoever wants to play with you. Setup your rules is always an independent feeling that was missed in D2. This is gonna blow up in Final Shape. You will see.
Last point might even get me into PvP again. Super exciting!
6:14 I was under the impression that every time Void Overshield is mentioned like that it was talking about the Void Overshield buff that is always 40hp considering Bungie is trying to consolidate all their buffs/debuffs. This means the total health of anyone in a bubble at 10 resil is functionally 230 with a 30% dmg resist when inside the bubble. People in a Ward are pretty squishy now considering most slugs and Chaperone do ~220; follow that with a melee and you've got a kill
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It's insane how it's meme'd as if it is OP.
I can't wait to play mask of bakris with blink and grapple... All The Movement (I may be a little sad that prismatic hunter doesn't have a dive ability but the arc airmove aspect should still be very fun)
Great takes in this video
Please give us a way to farm exotic ciphers
Honestly I’m glad that strand titan is still going to be very strong
I just love the non clickbaity title of the video. Thank you for just labeling it as it is instead of saying "Bungie hates warlocks" or "Well of Radiance Killed" or whatever.
I'm happy about the change to the grapple melee + gun shot combo, was really annoying to play against
For what it's worth I very much enjoy hearing your takes on various PvE activities. It's genuinely interesting to hear about your approach to the content because it differs a lot from my own approach and other people I enjoy watching.
I'm happy you've had fun with the Pantheon experience and hope that in the future more content comes by that you can enjoy to that level.
The changes to stasis titan. Look dope. The 4 second cooldown on the slide is weh. But getting it off of no momentum is nice. Been learning the movement for behemoth for awhile
Has there ever been instances of different sources of void overshield giving different amounts of health? I thought it was always 50hp?
Are there void over shields that go past 45 hp?
we're not ready for the dragon wormshadow husk
I love you cammy cakes please be my stasis titan on day 50 final shape ❤❤❤
I'm just happy cuz I got to riven on week 4 and planning to finish this weekend
Regarding Well of Radiance, we will have to wait and see if that “matching Restoration x2” means Restoration x2 in PvP or PvE right now. Currently, Restoration x1/x2 heals less health points per second in PvP than in PvE and [typically] Bungie leaves matching verbs in a super cast to match their PvE counterparts and not their PvP counterparts, so yes, 100 to 50 HP/s is a nerf but inside PvP, it’s still an insane amount of healing.
IIRC, Restoration x2 in PvP right now only does 25 HP/s compared to 50 HP/s in PvE
I assume in PVE we're going to use dusk field on top of the well
Just saying, prismatic hunter will have access to bakris, grapple AND blink at the same time, not to mention the new arc aspect. Their mobility might actually be insane.
So my cryo77k frostee5 build just got a big buff
I've been crutching without remorse bubble killings for seasons! (I literally didnt get conditional finality to drop until this passed weekend)
25:15 this is a crazy thing to drop in the final seconds of the video, i would play the shit out of tournies with a proper scene set up
I was pretty annoyed about the Strand Hunter nerfs since my favorite PvP loadout is Dollar Store Hynra, and the minimum skill needed to succeed with that loadout far exceeds pretty much every other build I've played. But this lowkey convinced me it is probably necessary even though for me personally it is sad.
Another thing for pvp bubble breaking. Peregrines. They do about 450dmg without enhancements (ie, me on solar for example) so it might be possible to oneshot people in a bubble now.
You can already peregrine someone out of a bubble
@@SuperRaids13the knee of vengeance
@@SuperRaids13 not by default, you need a melee damage boost, say having offensive bulwark and putting down an overshield barricade before charging in, or stuff like roaring flames, knockout etc.
@@B0redZer0 nah
@@SuperRaids13you are wrong.
i defiantly care about your thoughts on the game, no matter what part
Keep doing the pve stuff man. It was an old video of you doing one two punch on titan that got me into that playstyle back then.
I thought the cryoclasm change was pretty straight forward lol. They got rid of the wind-up and now you can use the powered slide every 4 seconds.
Tbh I don’t know how behemoth really works but if the slide will break crystals at any point right now even without the windup I imagined that would be the same after the update. If it required the windup then you would only be able to break crystals every 4 seconds.
The cryoclasm change sounds stupid. The cooldown is going back to beyond light cryo but only one slide. This means you also can't slidespam like literally any other class for duels... Which means itll feel inconsistent. I feel like its such a sloppy change and the sprint version was the most balanced one frankly. Cryoclasm is a fixed direction movement, grapple and icarus dash has so many angles that its strange that they messed with it. I hate how it sounds and its been my favourite movement in the game for years now. I just wanted cryo on prismatic they didnt have to change it...
Can you should give trinity ghoul with athrys embrace heavy knives.
LESSGO BABY WE GOT BIG MANS OPINION
How does the sunbracers nerf affect your usage of it? The actual grenades aren’t changing
I suspect the two second duration nerf stops solar grenades from having enough damage across the duration to destroy a well. Not sure if a single solar grenade can cause an ignition but that could be something too but I'm unsure about the maths behind that.
agree
I highly doubt shield throw changes are gonna be too much. Big reason is sacrificing mobility for an ablity that has a huge chance to miss because it has wierd interactions with the environment for some reason isnt worth it to a lot of people. Just think of it as bouncing throwing knife with embrace. Its a 50/50 either they're using it or they're not. It'll be huge for pve cause shield throw is trash.
PvE stuff from the perspective of a high level PvP player is good content. Unique and occasionally funny insights already happen when you do PvE videos.
I have not heard Aztecross, only you
bakris and blink? for a low level player that sounds so interesting
Honestly threadrunner is still not worse than any other hunter subclass at base. The only thing the ensnaring slam nerf changes is how easy you can suspend MULTIPLE targets (which imo you already need a certain setup to pull off a like 1v3 with the slam)
that pm setting pic got my a££ out of my chair recline position
double star eaters nerf feelsbad
Liking the balance of PvE and PvP content as of late. Seeing your efficiency perspective is welcome. Especially among so many yapping PvE mains.
Okay but with how much the PvE sandbox struggled in the past year, it didn’t need to be gutted in the ways it has been. Creativity in buildcrafting keeps getting incrementally more difficult, and the baseline balanced loadout is just boring and slow. I’d argue it’s perfectly reasonable for PvE mains to yap and be upset - separate balance for PvE-PvP is doable and necessary, and both modes have been suffering.
You forgot frost bolt was crying on twitter for that play style with strand to not get nerfed and that it was a a terrible change
Cant wait for everyone to forget about Void Titans 5 minutes into Final Shape when its nothing but Void and Strand Hunters. But Hunters are okay to be catered to, god forbid we ever take their binkies away.
All they did with knockout is take away all of its utility and the reward for dueling shotguns with a melee. I will not be playing striker anymore lol. Sure you can still punch, but it just looks flashy, and doesn’t offer anything another subclass can’t anymore
Cam's about to reinvent the Salty Suite for Destiny with these private lobby, money match videos
Anyone else think the new checkmate mode is horrible
Private matches for fun? Nah, for money.
Bungie is slowly turning Lightweight Knives into what I used to love pre-nerf Shurikens for and I hate it because I don't like playing solar.
In fact, they're outright powercreeping shurikens now. Just as fast, two charges, more damage, more aim assist, gives you radiant (more damage against all targets) instead of slowing a single target (and only being able to freeze with two more ability charges).
I miss when stasis hunter wasn't just "movement subclass, grenade subclass, or bust". Yeah, it was way overpowered, and I'm glad its not anymore (mind you - i was never a shatterdive hunter, i always ran duskfields and built into my shurikens and I got nerfed FIRST? and get less favors than shatterdive lovers from bungie?), but I miss when it had more build variety that didn't just feel outright bad for both pvp and pve. And these buffs aren't fixing that, they're just.. making it better at what it already does. While every other subclass has tons of build and playstyle variety, even if only a few of them are worth running at the top level, pretty much all of them are better than a melee build on revenant by a large margin. I feel more comfortable running grenade builds on arcstrider than that.
I'm scared of the Cryoclasm change. You will be forced to long slide when it's off cooldown, and that will punish you often.
You won't be able to slide a corner and slide back to cover because the first slide throws you out beyond the point of return. You now have to full send every fight or die trying.
Also, whisper of fractures change makes cryoclasm negative synergy.
In PvE, we are losing the 70% resist stack with overshield resist and whisper of chains resist and going to 36% with frost armor. This hurts. Going from effectively 785 HP to 513 HP. The shard generation cooldown is what sucks the most though. I understand it's a targeted nerf for PvP, but this makes triple Behemoth pretty much dead in GMs and future activities like Onslaught.
Changing it from overshield to damage resist makes hunter and warlock more potent, but is a hard nerf to behemoth. There are two things that will actually be stronger on Behemoth than they currently are now, and I'm actually super excited. Not sharing that though 🤭
No one tell him about liars handshake taking out bubbles, wells...
would rather the grapple melee just got damage nerf or something
felt like a cool combo to pull off with a bow
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first to say first
I love how a good portion of problems in this game stem from just bad netcode and janky bs lol
Overall mid. Just some updates so the exotics can work for the new subclass
I am vonvinced you just dont have reading comprehension skills half the things you talked about is stuff you made up in your head it feels
Sorry Cam, but they're never gonna make PvE like Pantheon standard. Bungie wants this game to be accessable to most type of players especially casuals. You're not gonna get Korean MMO levels of difficulty for raids or dungeons like Lost Ark and such.
1 view in 23 seconds? bro fell off.
Bro is so unoriginal.
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