I'm convinced of two things: one, that the revival is close to what the original final season would've been. And two, based on Lorelai's wishing for a second child in this scene, the original 'four final words' were not "Mom?" "Yeah?" "I'm pregnant." -- they were "I'm pregnant." "Me, too."
@@sonias9722 Amy Sherman Palladino talked about them for YEARS. RUclips deletes comments that have links in them, but I found what I needed with the search term 'amy sherman palladino the final four words'. Give it a go and see for yourself!
I think Lorelai issuing an Luke an ultimatum was a bad idea because on Grey's Anatomy when Bailey's husband told her that if she took a pediatric fellowship their marriage was over she declined the fellowship but also ended her marriage because she said when marriages come down to ultimatums there's no marriage or something like that.Of course i know Lorelai and Luke weren't married but i think it's the same thing stands,
Yes with a but. I agree the ultimatum was and is always a bad idea, BUT Luke kept putting up stop after stop after stop in front of moving their relationship forward. She hit a breaking point and made the wrong move, but he was neglectful and inattentive.
I usually agree that ultimatums are bad but in this case Luke was stalling and basically playing with Lorelai. He was just holding off on advancing further but told her the opposite. She was tired of pretending to be fine for his sake as he doesn't take her into consideration at all. I understand that.
I feel this is different choose between him vs a career but she just asking to move along what they were already planning to do marry but like delays and delays she can’t wait around forever either that’s not fair and she’s given him time eventually time runs out
Yea, because he didn't have the same feelings for Nicole as he did for Lorelai. It was easier for him to jump with Nicole because there was no real risk, not really. With Nicole, he was practicing for Lorelai so he could do this same thing with her without making the same mistakes.
@@callmeswivelhips8229but what is the risk if you love someone you’ll want to marry them no ifs or buts so she just got tired of waiting it’s understandable
April was an unnecesary charather on the show Lorelai cheating on luke with chris as well Luke acting like a jerk since april came into his life They could have done that differently The cheating and the break up was both lorelai and luke fault And the writers
@diegoiunou whenever women hold other women accountable for their bad behavior they always get called pick me girls 😂. It’s got the same energy as calling a man a beta or an alpha. Cringe.
I think that if she hadn’t given him this type of ultimatum he would’ve said yes.. she went from 0 to 100, like she completely butted out and then gave him an ultimatum
Yes, but she freaked that much because he simply didn't respect her at a fiance at all. He basically played with her and didn't want to be confronted with her feelings.
He should've seen this coming. Not the exact moment, but this would blow up in Luke's face. Luke was constantly pushing Lorelei away, and she was visibly upset and frustrated. It was inevitable she would explode.
i disagree, she had been waiting for him to sort things out for months and he just left her out and pushed her away. shes the one who proposed to him and she cant wait forever at a certain point she needs a yes or no if hes serious about it
@@FacebookQueen I thought that being this the official GG channel that they'd have some provisos to use her music. I mean she's still "lalala"-ing on several of the clips here. lol
@@biancagardner1015 season 6, which this is from if I'm rememberign right, aired in 2006. In 2006 Scotus say 81 cases, 85 the year before. In 2006 Justice Clarence Thomas only weighed in on 24 opinions. He used to be known for just sitting there and looking stern and not saying much. These days, he's known for opening his mouth and saying some of the most insane unhinged things to come out of the court in decades. He benifited from affirmitive action, actively tried to remove it. He's in an interracial marriage, he thinks they should be illegal again. He's proud of his work to get bribes legal, the fact that he gets so many "gifts" from rich billionares who then have cases in front of him that he almost always goes their way on, he has had an opinion on almost every case this year, and almost all of them have been to the utter detriment of everyone in this country who isn't rich white and christian. But her point was, she was sick of being the silent person just standing there and she wanted to have an opinion and to be heard. And my point was that the reference to him had aged like milk because he's gone from being nearly always silent to almost always sticking his nose into things and saying things that shouldn't be said. He's openly stated he wants to go after contraception, interacial marriage, gay marriage, and a host of rights and protections we take for granted now, and remove them all. And I've seen some things that suggest that a lot of it is because he's mad that when he was having his confirmation hearing that they believed the woman who said he assulted her and questioned him, when he was the man in the situation and she shouldn't have had any weight to her words. I hope that cleared things up.
Lorelai fell victim to the “women must be married to live happily ever after” mindset. That’s what drove this decision of hers. She wanted to finally have the nuclear family.
@lovefromwonderland boy, sure are a lot women and men who “fall victim” to wanting a family. It’s almost like millions of years of evolutionary biology kicks in eventually.
I am sorry, but if someone comes to my workplace and acts like a lunatic, I call an ambulance because I assume they have a serious health issue. I understand that she wanted him to make a decision, but that is not the way to go about it. Sit down, have a talk, explain what your expectations and needs are, see if his fit yours and if not, split. What she did was simply unnecessary.
She put her needs on hold so he could develop a relationship with his daughter. Having needs is not narcissism. Having needs in a relationship is completely healthy. Should she have expressed them better? Yes.
I agree and if Lorelai was feeling insecure in her relationship with Luke regarding April and other things she should have talked to him instead of giving him an ultimatum because she should have known how Luke would handle an ultimatum.
Jan from the office as a shrink gets me every time
I'm convinced of two things: one, that the revival is close to what the original final season would've been. And two, based on Lorelai's wishing for a second child in this scene, the original 'four final words' were not "Mom?" "Yeah?" "I'm pregnant." -- they were "I'm pregnant." "Me, too."
And reading this you just convinced me too..
Where did you hear that?
@@sonias9722 Amy Sherman Palladino talked about them for YEARS. RUclips deletes comments that have links in them, but I found what I needed with the search term 'amy sherman palladino the final four words'. Give it a go and see for yourself!
And the revival was horrible. If that's what her dream was to end the show...it's horrid
@@songriver1232 Agreed. Emily's character development was the only good part. Everybody else was a pathetic, miserable shadow of their former self.
I think Lorelai issuing an Luke an ultimatum was a bad idea because on Grey's Anatomy when Bailey's husband told her that if she took a pediatric fellowship their marriage was over she declined the fellowship but also ended her marriage because she said when marriages come down to ultimatums there's no marriage or something like that.Of course i know Lorelai and Luke weren't married but i think it's the same thing stands,
Yes with a but. I agree the ultimatum was and is always a bad idea, BUT Luke kept putting up stop after stop after stop in front of moving their relationship forward. She hit a breaking point and made the wrong move, but he was neglectful and inattentive.
I usually agree that ultimatums are bad but in this case Luke was stalling and basically playing with Lorelai. He was just holding off on advancing further but told her the opposite. She was tired of pretending to be fine for his sake as he doesn't take her into consideration at all. I understand that.
I feel this is different choose between him vs a career but she just asking to move along what they were already planning to do marry but like delays and delays she can’t wait around forever either that’s not fair and she’s given him time eventually time runs out
He jumped with Nicole, but not Lorelai
Yea, because he didn't have the same feelings for Nicole as he did for Lorelai. It was easier for him to jump with Nicole because there was no real risk, not really.
With Nicole, he was practicing for Lorelai so he could do this same thing with her without making the same mistakes.
@@callmeswivelhips8229but what is the risk if you love someone you’ll want to marry them no ifs or buts so she just got tired of waiting it’s understandable
April was an unnecesary charather on the show
Lorelai cheating on luke with chris as well
Luke acting like a jerk since april came into his life
They could have done that differently
The cheating and the break up was both lorelai and luke fault
And the writers
I think the writers were having a bit of a stroke on the story-telling front with this season. LOLOLOLOL.
All these pick me girls blaming Lorelai for having a meltdown, implying that a woman needs should always come second to her man's needs 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@diegoiunou whenever women hold other women accountable for their bad behavior they always get called pick me girls 😂. It’s got the same energy as calling a man a beta or an alpha. Cringe.
I think that if she hadn’t given him this type of ultimatum he would’ve said yes.. she went from 0 to 100, like she completely butted out and then gave him an ultimatum
Yes, but she freaked that much because he simply didn't respect her at a fiance at all. He basically played with her and didn't want to be confronted with her feelings.
He should've seen this coming. Not the exact moment, but this would blow up in Luke's face. Luke was constantly pushing Lorelei away, and she was visibly upset and frustrated. It was inevitable she would explode.
i disagree, she had been waiting for him to sort things out for months and he just left her out and pushed her away. shes the one who proposed to him and she cant wait forever at a certain point she needs a yes or no if hes serious about it
Ugh, you cut off the song!!! Bad edit! Couldn't you have just added a few minutes to include Sam Philips singing "Taking Pictures"
Or you could just watch the episode to hear it, instead of the creator getting a copyright issue
@@FacebookQueen I thought that being this the official GG channel that they'd have some provisos to use her music. I mean she's still "lalala"-ing on several of the clips here. lol
@@Lio032980I’m not completely sure if they do or not. Just thought it would be easier to watch in full 😂
ooof, that Clarance Thomas joke aged like milk.
Can you explain it please?
@@biancagardner1015 season 6, which this is from if I'm rememberign right, aired in 2006. In 2006 Scotus say 81 cases, 85 the year before. In 2006 Justice Clarence Thomas only weighed in on 24 opinions. He used to be known for just sitting there and looking stern and not saying much. These days, he's known for opening his mouth and saying some of the most insane unhinged things to come out of the court in decades. He benifited from affirmitive action, actively tried to remove it. He's in an interracial marriage, he thinks they should be illegal again. He's proud of his work to get bribes legal, the fact that he gets so many "gifts" from rich billionares who then have cases in front of him that he almost always goes their way on, he has had an opinion on almost every case this year, and almost all of them have been to the utter detriment of everyone in this country who isn't rich white and christian.
But her point was, she was sick of being the silent person just standing there and she wanted to have an opinion and to be heard. And my point was that the reference to him had aged like milk because he's gone from being nearly always silent to almost always sticking his nose into things and saying things that shouldn't be said. He's openly stated he wants to go after contraception, interacial marriage, gay marriage, and a host of rights and protections we take for granted now, and remove them all. And I've seen some things that suggest that a lot of it is because he's mad that when he was having his confirmation hearing that they believed the woman who said he assulted her and questioned him, when he was the man in the situation and she shouldn't have had any weight to her words.
I hope that cleared things up.
@@bekenotsalony2905 it makes sense, thanks so much!
lorelai luke if you two are gonna argue do it somewhere else
Lorelai fell victim to the “women must be married to live happily ever after” mindset. That’s what drove this decision of hers. She wanted to finally have the nuclear family.
@lovefromwonderland boy, sure are a lot women and men who “fall victim” to wanting a family. It’s almost like millions of years of evolutionary biology kicks in eventually.
I wonder how her mother would have felt about that in this season
So? That is what she wanted, if he didn’t he didn’t have to play with her for so long and let her go
Lorelai and Luke just didn't fit, you wanted it but it just didn't fit
This whole argument made no sense. They really forced a drama between the 2.
Jan from The Office is a psychiatrist? Okay. Also Lorelai is really annoying, she needs to stay single.
I am sorry, but if someone comes to my workplace and acts like a lunatic, I call an ambulance because I assume they have a serious health issue. I understand that she wanted him to make a decision, but that is not the way to go about it. Sit down, have a talk, explain what your expectations and needs are, see if his fit yours and if not, split. What she did was simply unnecessary.
If that someone is my FIANCE or even just a friends I would try to be there for them. She was clearly in a bad place.
Once again we see Lorilie's narcissism on full display. She made everything about her wants, her dreams, her desires. My way or the highway.
She put her needs on hold so he could develop a relationship with his daughter. Having needs is not narcissism. Having needs in a relationship is completely healthy. Should she have expressed them better? Yes.
I agree and if Lorelai was feeling insecure in her relationship with Luke regarding April and other things she should have talked to him instead of giving him an ultimatum because she should have known how Luke would handle an ultimatum.
She shouldn’t have offered to postpone the wedding if she didn’t really want to postpone it 😢
Then April blew him off, so the whole thing was pointless