DANGEROUS KITCHEN ELECTRICS - Electrician Life
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2024
- DANGEROUS KITCHEN ELECTRICS - Electrician Life.
Join Cory as he conducts a thorough inspection or EICR of the electrics in the home of one of our customers and discovers some shocking electrics done by the kitchen fitters!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Intro
01:08 Taking an earth leakage measurement
02:03 “I hate this tester”
03:03 Someone is using Cory’s putty
03:27 Some doughnut cut the bonding
05:43 Coding the hob and oven
06:50 Dodgy old connections
07:40 Why it’s a code 2
09:00 The culprit is revealed!
09:18 Cory reads salty youtube comments
10:40 Further investigation
11:40 R1 and R2 readings
12:08 “It’s all sticky”
12:32 More kitchen fitter electrics
13:54 Starting to get frustrating
15:17 Some rare positivity
15:36 Cory gets confused
17:19 Busted breaker
19:14 A gift from Nick Bundy!
20:03 Finding the garage feed
20:41 Temporamental breaker
21:09 Where are the cheeky girls?
22:23 Wifi nightmare
23:21 Garage feed mystery solved
23:54 Today’s work explained
25:14 Vietnam or Chelmsford?
25:17 Outro
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I'd definitely be up for the artisan team going through some of the comments, both good and bad!
Please!!!
I once told a client his electrics were dangerous because he had no earth bond to his water…he disagreed and said, him having to parachute into France, on D-day worried him more 😂😂😂
The 'you don't know what you don't know' point is the best philosophy in this case. Given the nature of kitchen wiring, there's good reason it should be left to someone with a ticket and annual assessment. Great video as always.
please do a vid with cory and jordan reading the comments, would be hillarious
Always a pleasure to watch quality workmanship and customer care by all you guys. The problem is that I expect the same from people working in my home, but few of them deliver.
I've been saying that there will be more and more of this after "the Great British lockdown refurb" - as reputable firms were booked up, all the good and complex work filtered down to the cowboys and I reckon we'll be fixing this stuff for years to come
Yes, a good supply of work guaranteed for us though
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I don't know how these cowboys sleep at night, just guessing what to do with electrics and potentially burning someone's house down or worse, mind boggles
Cory does awesome work !
The Cheeky Girls are now both working in car dealerships in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, in case you were wondering.
The pair, who are actually called Monica Taylor and Gabriela Irimia are twin sisters who shot to fame in the early 2000s on Popstars: The Rivals.
Despite being described by judge Pete Waterman as 'the worst act I've ever seen' they became inexplicably popular, even achieving two top ten singles.
One of those was called 'Cheeky Song (Touch My Bum)', which - for the uninitiated - gives you a decent flavour of what they were like.
Absolutely love your attention to detail while doing testing, 90% of sparks have no interest and couldn't be bothered testing properly!
Disconnect the neutral on whatever circuit you're testing to prevent any nuisance tripping
Thank you and the team for the awesome videos. May the business prosper and looking forward to more great videos.
YES, a reading comments video with Jordan & Cory would be fantastic!!!
That is absolutely shocking! Even the hob isn't fitted and sealed around the edges.
Been waiting for this all evening 😊
Great vid as always. Cory what model velocity bag is that? An organised bag to fit all my test gear in is what I’m after & that look perfect.
Thanks for the video guys I just had a kitchen fitted so I will be looking under my cupboards tomorrow for damn sure.
"I don't know what I don't know!!" im so using that. Its close to "I've forgotten more than you know"
+Artisan Electrics
Cory should learn a trick!!! You can test that garage rcd with upstream rcd safely, by connecting your MFT to the neutral and line outputs of the Garage RCD as normal, but connecting the ''earth'' probe to the incoming-neutral connection. I worked this out myself and then John Ward pointed this out in an RCD-testing video as well.
In this way, the line-"earth" test-current will travel back through upstream rcd (via neutral) fine, guaranteed to stay in balance there, but this RCD can still be tested without risk of upstream-tripping.
This will not, however, tell you that the Earth is correctly connected from house MET to the Garage board (but theres' plenty of ways of checking that with flying-leads or whatever).
Nice Job Cory! Very clear and methodical. Which velocity bag are you using for testing by the way? Looks awesome 😁
Very interesting. Best tip is when fitting a new kitchen replan refit electrics. We got an electrician in when doing ours. Frankly it was cheap. He did a great job ( apart from one loose wire which I later found). Now I would get one in everytime. I dont enjoy fiddly stuff anymore.
Great vid 👍. The cheeky girls are now working in car sales I believe 🤣
Love the banter thrown at nick bundy haha, as always great videos...
I love your wit, makes a day that little brighter.
At 15.00 you said it “ Not Competent”.
There is no more to be said about people who just wing it, and attempt to carry out the work of other skilled trades without the proper training or time served experience.
People need to know that they shouldn’t attempt work for which they are not competent, but where is the regulatory control to stop this insanity, so that customers know that they are employing competent trades people?
I’m a retired plumber and have always re-connected any earth wires I have had to disconnect. Remember reading in one of our trade mags where a plumber was given a prison sentence for not re-connecting an earth wire to a metal sink top and the customer died as a result of an electric shock from the sink. It always pays to get professional advice from the relevant people.
Really ? He did the right thing disconnecting it - A metal sink is a not an extraneous conductive part. Should never have been bonded in the first place. And how could anyone receive a shock from a non bonded sink ? If was because the water pipes somehow became live and made the sink live then the fault would have been lack of bonding on the water supply. Smacks of an apocryphal story to me .
@@Marco-mg9tv The bonding for the water lines was probably a the sink as it was an easy to access place. So the plumber removed the water bonding.
@@redcitadel8354 Really ? Are you suggesting that an electrician decided that a metal sink was the best point to connect main bonding to the incoming water service rather than the cold water pipe that would be supplying the taps to said sink ?
I have a Metrel tester (3125BT, not as fancy as yours!) and it gets through the first 3/4 of the battery in no time, but the last quarter lasts for ages.
I *think* it might be that the battery gauge isn't set up for rechargeable batteries.
It's difficult to describe as a good battery life, but I can get a couple of days out of it.
Compared to my Seaward solar tester which I do a lot more testing with, that's run on the same set of AA batteries for over a year now and no sign of the low battery warning yet.
Edit: oh, and the remote, what were they thinking?!
I do like the test leads and various other bits about it.
Great watching your attention to every detail .
I’ve had one of those breakers do exactly that to me. It’s normally the crappy cheap ones that do it, a spring slips out of place inside. Suppose it can just happen when they get old as well.
Love all the Bang & Olufsen equipment in this house! BL3500, Beo4 remote, BL5 and maybe an Avant 55 in the living room? have a similar setup myself :-)
Great videos! I am currently studying electrical installations...please can you help by explaining how you done the calculation @ 5:50
Thanks
I had a Metrel first. NiMH batteries that lasted less than a day. Changed to a Fluke and I have to change the alkaline batteries once or twice a year
I swapped my Metrel to AA alkalines pretty soon, they last reasonably long. Funny story behind the reason for the swap... I couldn't find the charger for months, until I found it - in the carrying case, just in a different compartment. By the time I found the charger again I'd lost one of the six NiMHs and decided to stick with alkalines.
Fantastic insight into circuit testing 👏 and nice to see you’ve got a Ford transit as in one of the latest videos think your mate got sold a lemon with the all electric vw 🤔😎
I would like that video you and Jordan reading out the good and bad comments also I love watching your videos keep up the fantastic videos
Saw this at my late father in law's kitchen upgrade. He called me in as he was concerned over what he saw. What I saw was a disaster of electrical bodging. All old sockets had been extended via 15a connector blocks buried in the walls. The ring main had been split. Lighting was full of connector blocks ready to be plastered over. I left my report and they got a professional electrician in. Was all rewired back to the consumer unit properly avoiding all these bodged joints.
Kitchen fitters look upon cooker circuits as sub mains for all kitchen electrics.
Made a decision about a year ago that once I finished school (I will be done school july 2022) that I want to be an electrician… came across your channel today and it’s just solidified that drive even more I cannot wait
How’s it going for you
Absolutely amaizing video , thanks a lot mate.
Nice to see a Cory video. The Jordan-a-thon this week went on a bit. No offence, but Cory is a more entertaining presenter!.
Wearing your overshoes outside 🤣 lost count if the amount of times I've done that lol
Can you guys do a video on the velocity 7.5 bag just recently bought one and would love to see how you load it out
Insulating compound. I first saw it and used it when I worked in a shipyard.
overshoes outside , like the new fashion statement Cory. haha
watched a number of your videos today, currently looking at starting the C&G lvl2 at the age of 42....Being currently full time employed in the newspaper industry on a pretty decent salary but conscious that it won't see me to retirement. In you opinion do you feel that this is a good route take? considering I will need to eventually take on the NVQ and will have to fit working with someone in with a full time (night shift) working pattern.
Hope that breaker was saved to send off to Big Clive :)
My thoughts also.
Great video, thanks and YES, I'd certainly be up for the suggested 'comment' one. As the comments are in the public domain, there should be no problem naming the comment-poster.
Take the bond cable off the clamp and test for continuity and not just visually check,you never know if it was cut like the water bond. 👍
Eneloop pro batteries all the way, the black ones. My meter came with the white ones which didn’t last very long. I’ve used the black ones for years in my photography, sound and video equipment and they’ve never let me down and go on forever. Tried them in my MFT and the difference is considerable.
I like how through you are .I wish the standard was more like this here in the states.our inspectors are a joke here and most guys in the trades do some pretty substandard work .your standards are the same it sounds like as ours but ours aren’t as enforced .is a panel board allowed in a cabinet ? It’s illegal to do so here .Has to be accessible.36 inches of clearance for 120/240 and 42 for 277/480
"I'm not in Vietnam, I'm in Chelmsford" - back in the day closing time at Dukes nightclub made Chelmsford a warzone..
the yellow and green wire on the copper pipe is there to stop the house from floating away. very important.
Thanks for the vids. And i hope you guys don’t go bankrupt. In fact i hope u guys go from strength. Stay safe. Take care
Hey Cory , greetings from Romania. Nice video , you make fault finding fun and easy :). And to answer your question, the Cheeky girls are back in there home country Romania !
19:08 That bright yellow test lead on the MCB terminal looks interesting. Is it held captive by a magnet?
Easy on the ads, same ad 5 times in 19mins!. Love your content, Cory is a great character.
Use a vpn to relocate yourself outside of the rich zone. I get no ads apart from the start from where I live in Uganda.
I too am getting tired of the millions of ads in every video! Great content 👍 spoiled by constant interruptions 😭
RUclips premium
@@Robert-cu9bm money making off the backs of the poor for nothing
The people running the channel have absolutely zero influence on the ads. They can’t say how many ads, which ads, or even whether there are ads. If they don’t monetize a video, that video still gets ads, just with no money to the channel.
You’re complaining to the wrong people.
Non setting flue jointing compound is used to fill the gap between the gas pipework to the sleeve that goes out the rear of the gas box
You will never stop those horrible cretins from posting toxic comments. So you must do everything in your power to keep posting your videos just to give them something to do in their sad lives.
Really enjoyed this video.
I understand what u was saying about the cooker and hob both being on full Christmas
As others have commented, the cooking load is no more than an old-fashioned stand-alone cooker, which, with diversity, is perfectly acceptable on a 32A breaker.
Where there is a consumer unit on the end of a 13A fused spur, it is pointless, as there is no discrimination.
Love your videos....Top Bloke.... Keep up the great work fella...😁😎👻🎃👍👊✌️🍻🏍️
Similar stuff used on the gas spigot but not the same - it's called Denso Mastic. I know because I've got them both on the van 👍
Try using the Panasonic ENELOOP Pro batteries, they last forever. Even in winter.
Agree.. Great batteries 👍
Get the IKEA white rechargeable batteries there better then eneloop and cheaper , check out big Clive's battery review and testing video
Depends on the ref method, but 2.5mm can usually handle 20 and 27A. So 40A for a ring should be okay in theory, unless you have to apply a derating factor for the potential for unbalanced load share between the legs of the ring.
Always enjoy watching Cory, cracking engineer and his outlook is exactly the same as everyone of our engineers. A credit to the industry and Artisan.
This must have been filmed just before the Daily Mail this week stated they're both working for Hyundai in York, not sure if they're singing to sell the cars though.
Cory is not a qualified engineer.
@@maxwellboyne2770 Terry Hutchinson Msc Bsc MIEE MIEEE HND (Mech Elec). No he isn't!
Amazing how many people want to be a professional engineer but don't have the necessary qualifications. I did and was for 40 years, oh and please don't start talking about the university of life.
@@terryhutchinson6503 You're the classic RUclips engineer I recon. Sure sounds like one. And if you're not, probably about time to stop feeling insecure after 40+ years with the title.
@@terryhutchinson6503 Your comment has no bearing on comparing Cory to my own staff whom are all qualified engineers in multiple fields. Not to mention the qualification itself is recognized by C&G as engineering. Honestly you're coming across as someone who's pride is hurt by a 23 year old enjoying the industry and wanting to excel at it so has obviously 1; had a great instructor/mentor and 2; puts the effort in.
Electrical detective work. Welcome to my world.
Great video, I love kitchen fitters hahaha.
I no longer work with them as we always fall out with them!
Yes please do an episode on the keyboard warriors so that I can compare them with mine!
Please can you guys do a video on the comments. It would be so funny. Cory would in tears of laughter so fast 🤣
Yes yes yes for a video going through the funny & salty comments.
I’ve seen a cooker installed on 5amp 3 core flex when I was installing a washing machine
I'd love to see Rueben and eFix get together for an apprentice special.
I was reading about a maximum length from the switch to cooker in the on site guide. The block being on the floor they imagine a bit of a water spill under there.
Yup isolator has to be within 2 metres I believe
Cory’s a fantastic electrician, absolutely fantastic 👌🏼
Is that your Cory. He's a know it all
@@conorjordan9029 what?
I would love to see a video of Artisan electrics doing a project with Nick Bundy
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 I’m an electrician and honestly I’m learning lots of things from you guys better than what I learned in school
Australia uses a different electrical set up.
Which is why Australia doesn't need fused plugs.
UK is ring main, because after the war they were short of copper and it uses less.
Very entertaining.. thanks 😄
Unliked tester: possible to replace the battery - with the same or hight capacity one? Maybe under warranty? I've herard good things about these testers from other Sparks... & they're bloody expensive!
The extraction fan isnt centered to the cabinets which also forces the hob out of position, unless there maybe a good reason 🤔
You are very passionate about your job
Which Velocity bag do you have for your test gear?
Bonding,,,, yes well, I am retired but I still do that very boring job of PAT (Testing). In a Chip Shop Kitchen, I came across a 4 way extension cleverly lifted off the metal shelving to stop it getting wet.
Great job on someone's part. However, on close inspection (outside of the remit on Pat (Testing), I spotted a Bonding cable had come adrift of its clamp and was hanging. This bonding joined Two prep area tables (stainless Steel). I informed the very friendly Manager who took a picture of it to report it to maintenance to fix.
There is a very small chance that I may have saved someone from shock in the workplace.
in addition, I was testing the appliances in a caravan, I tried to unplug the Kettle, but the plug was stuck in the socket, due to it not being plugged in properly, so the plastic on the pin and possibly the socket had melted. I failed the Kettle and made a reccommendation the owner replace the now faulty socket as well as the Kettle. I received a complaint that I was not supposed to be testing the sockets....!!
Fairly sure the on site guide suggests 15kw of cooking appliances in a domestic setting is good on a 32a MCB. I tend to agree 👍
Looks good from my bedroom window
Check out E5’s podcasts on Earthing and Bonding, where they recommend current clamping the main earth on any TNC-S or TNS supply because of the possibility of unsuspected PEN conductor faults, and their latest on Regulation within the electrical industry.
Why was the new circuit installed for the EV Charger when bonding wasn’t connected at the time of install? This should have been checked/rectified at the time of installation.
“5 stars” for observation
Do u not carry replacement breakers in the van?
Yes, read the comments! Hahahah
Only just stumbled upon this channel and I love it hahah.
Love watching these vids 👍🏽
Thanks!
I love my Velocity tester bag!
Awesome video as always.
Regarding the ovens there is no need for a separate circuit for the ovens as onsite guide states your allowed up to 15kw on a 30/32amp supply due to diversity (appendix H, H4 pg190). As you allow for the first 10amps then 30% of the remaining full load current in excess of 10amps + an additional 5amps if there is a socket on the cooker control unit (table A2 pg123). Therefore 12.5kw will actually draw approximately 28.5amps due to them being thermostatically controlled
Just as I was about to wire in another circuit, thanks
Some require 16a fuse protection though. 😉
@@travoltasbiplane1551 this is true seen so many 16 amp ovens on 13 amp fuse and its melted it to bits. And when you read the manufacturers instructions it says protect by a 16 amp fuse and only have 32 amp supply with a electric hob lol nightmare 😆
@@gd-bq7em garage board in the adjacent cupboard. 🤣
@@travoltasbiplane1551 ²
Only thing dont like with the garage board is can be a lot of joints in front of the garage board like cooker switch and then maby cooker plate then garage board then another 16 amp switch.
I have done one before when I removed cooker switch jointed the cables then into a 2 way board with a 32 amp mcb for hob and 16 amp mcb for oven with a 32 amp rcbo back at main fuse box
the cheeky girls are now apparently working in hyundai car dealerships in yorkshire and lincolnshire.
Love your videos look forward to many more x
Good job, well done.
What clamp meter you using Cory?
Metrel testers are awesome. Maybe the battery just needs renewing. My 3155 lasts a week without recharging. btw you’re becoming the 2nd best spark to watch after Tom 👍😂
9:27 Have some kitchen salt too haha
Can you put a link up for you VELOCITY TEST BAG please
I had to redo my cooker wiring recently to replace the 5kW hob and 3kW oven with a 4kW oven and a
Of course dropping the breaker to 16A also covers the 2.5mm overload current.
As you say, the diversity calculations are fine for 32a supply. I think it comes to 24a or so required for the circuit. [10a + 30% of the remainder].
what if they are on at the same time though, wont that blow a 30Amp
@@Lewdacris916 if you look on the table on page 370 of the 18th edition (type B bs60898 mcbs) it says 52 amps (or whatever the hob oven load was without diversity) will never trip a 32amp breaker
I think I could listen to Cory recite the alphabet. Charisma incarnate. My wife thinks I have a bromance.
Anyone have a link to the test lead with crocodile clamp and magnet?
Yeah! like how not to repair an acrylic bath, it's not about the accidents, it's about how you cover it up and hope you get paid before it gets noticed. I think I heard the splitting of floor boards too, typical sparks ;))) there's a thing called a saw but I know you guys prefer a blunt bolster and fire wood.
Excellent as usual
OSG says 15kw max for 2 appliances on a 32amp cooker circuit, so fine at 12kw.