Elon Musk finally revealed Starship's cost somehow shocked the entire industry
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- Elon Musk finally revealed Starship's cost somehow shocked the entire industry
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Elon Musk finally revealed Starship's cost somehow shocked the entire industry
Whenever we mention rockets, we often imagine giant, expensive, and potentially risky vehicles.
Like all rockets, SpaceX Starship also has these three elements. In particular, the cost is a factor that many people are curious about because Starship went through a long period of development.
Surprisingly, Elon Musk revealed an insane cost for Starship that is beyond many people's thoughts.
So in today's episode of Alpha Tech, let's find out how crazy the Starship’s cost that Elon Musk revealed and why this shocked the entire aerospace industry.
A video that can last 10 seconds last almost 9 minutes, that's what's wrong with youtube today
Yes, we call that 'inflation'.
I agree!
That and the fact that RUclips shows twice as many ads. Ads are the devil!
@@ryanab01 You think that's bad? A video I liked had comments turned off and linked to RUclips kids. And the worst part is that it wasn't meant for kids! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Because Starship is built soley in house it has no middle men milking money out of NASA.
Stainless steel is NOT lighter than carbon fiber! The point is that it's far easier and cheaper to fabricate cryogenic tanks and it's much stronger at high temps such as during reentry. Learn your material.
Falcon 9 is not built with carbon fiber. Its main body is lithium-aluminum.
Starship was originally planned to be carbon fiber, and a lot of money was spent on that direction. But the cost was very high, and it turned out that the carbon fiber would burn on re-entry without very robust heat shielding. Stainless steel can remain strong over a far greater temperature range so the heat shield can be thinner and lighter. The temperature problem negated much of the weight advantage of carbon fiber, and stainless steel is easy to work with and far, far cheaper.
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Wait... isn't the 100-120 ton payload for Starship using old numbers? I saw a video recently that because of all the "fixes" Starship has been given over the iterations, it's payload is now down to around 50 tons or so. All those fixes cost mass, and that mass has been adding up.
SpaceX - taking all our eggs out of one basket. Mars colonisation is the best way for a genius engineer to show his love for the rest of his species. The attempt is deeply appreciated.
Watching and understanding the profound essence of the reality these videos are bringing to light, makes me feel like I did, at 9 yrs old, standing at the top of the Empire State Building in 1963 and holding on to the vertical protection bars of the perimeter railing looking down to the streets.
It's an amazing view.
The key to cost, speed and quality of Raptor engines is 3D printing with Velo3D
Let's wait for their next miracles
The goal is $2 million per flight not $2 million per Starship,. The current researchers costed about $ 5 billion and there's been about 10 Starships so that's about $500 million each but when Starship ramps up mass production price could come down to $10 million,
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They've built way more than 10 Starships, they built a lot of prototypes and a lot of infrastructure, a lot of money went into that
Can you be a bit more detailed than that how many how much give me some numbers@@rizizum
Just for the record carbon fiber is orders of magnitude lighter than stainless steel
Your videos are padded out with so much useless content that they are of little value.
Why can't you focus on the core topic without wasting everyone's time with information that is not relevant to the topic.
7:04 $4B spoken, $4M displayed.
Thanks for your contribution. We'll take note and fix this ☺️
Semi enjoyed it, some interesting content but far too much useless padding. I give it 5/6 out of 10
Still waiting on starship to go to orbit and return successfully,
Keeping a fleet of security Starships on Mars, Moons, or in orbit ready to fly for missions free of Earth launch cost will be the ultimate robo-taxi / truck.
I think its a great thing!
Get costs of gravity well escape down so low your grand parents can afford a vacation on the moon.
I really enjoy hearing about the effects of parts count on the rocket industry. And wonder what all those guys who down voted the krapp out of me, and insulted me for a couple three days, for trying to get it to Elon are thinking now?
Has to be my best own ever! I'm just honored to have been able to help Elon.
Also starting to see simplification getting mentioned more in other industries, Elon has definitely gotten the concept on the Radar world wide.
I think it will help alot, and prevent more problems for more people than I could ever imagine, if those who design and build things put it into practice. I only knew it because I was a radio communications buff.
Most people dont grok how much of our culture has roots in radio connected things. I was a Navy Radioman, and know they started alot of the abbreviations in common use now in American culture, like WTF, back in the old days when code was about Morse, and communication was 60 WPM teletypes.
Parts count was a thing of hobbiest electronic engineers...
Who designed circuits to herd trons around, and then had to fix their stuff that went bad if too complicated.
And the progress on rocket engines has been amazing since.
Its so good, SpaceX is being somewhat secretive about their new engines.
When Raptor 3 engines drive their first launch into orbit, its gonna be a Mr. Magoo moment for the industry.
And we will see everybody Stripping their Spaghetti Monster engines down, and designing simpler engines that function way better not choked with garbage accretions. That was a nightmare!
Hopefully we get another launch next month, more progress, and more mass realization that this is really gonna work. And then we move on, more upgrades, and end the Malthusian Gravity Well Paradigm for humanity's sake.
Its gonna be funny watching the WEF types realize everything has changed except themselves.... That we can start industrializing space and the Moon and Mars, and the Exodus for the high ground of wages will be extreme once we get rolling.
Hopefully, they will have big strides in the coming time☺️
Spaceplane is the way to get into space
Earth to earth… sounds simple…. But once you get Starship there, how do you get it back? Will empty starship go orbital?
Same way that aeroplanes are able to return home. Land at a place that has facilities to refuel and launch again.
There isn’t anything wrong with the Orion capsule and service module. It’s the SLS architecture, cost and cadence that makes it a white elephant. Crew Dragon would take a complete rebuild and then a certification campaign, which would take several years to complete. I don’t even think the shell of the Dragon is suitable for the 7+ km/s required for reentry. As the man said “you would finish up with something that looked like Orion” unless you aerobraked back into LEO before final reentry.
8 minutes 41 seconds i was thrown off site for doing that !
@2:04 Uhm, Starship has not sent anything into orbit.
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@@alphatech4966literal bot content smh
There is no point for Mars colonization. Weak gravity is not suitable for living there. Colonization of Space will be by building orbital Space Stations with Artificial Gravity from where people descend on Mars and Moon to do exploration, mining and other work, then returning to orbital Space Station with a comfortable artificial environment, resembling Earth
You can hide from cosmic radiation under ground.
"revealed" or "advertised"?
Glad i may live long enough to see moon bases - humans on mars and earth to earth space ports ! 🚀
Awful idea. Want to know why it has been over 50 years since we have landed on the moon, it is dumb ideas like this. Why put all this time, energy and effort into finding a way to way to just re-enact the Apollo landings from 50 years ago? Put a very small lander only capable of planting a flag, gathering a few rocks and going home again. We'll be right back in the same place after landing with the question of, "Now, what is next?".
With such limited capacity there will not be much more to do. You'll have to start again from scratch.
We're not going to build an outpost on the Moon with a tiny little lander. We're going to need to be able to place tons I mean 100's of tons of equipment, food and water on the Moon. That requires orbital refueling not matter what. Don't argue with me, it is just physics.
Let's take the "Next Great Leap" and do it "not because it is easy but because it is hard." Then we'll be ready for Mars.
Not really news, as much as an advertisement. Some statements were made about actual performance, but mostly, no basis for the statements was offered.
I wonder why Elon is building an army of storm troopers ?
LoL 😂
What I don't understand is how was he to take a brand new engine. Run it through all of it's but attachments run through 5 6 15 test over and over again, 15 times complete and the day of the launch. Something messes up, how can that be? Imagine going to the dealership buying a car and the very 1st day the tire blows out. Well, you do an investigation and a week later. You say oh, we're just put a brand new tire on it. You tested again for 23 days. Go to drive the car and the wheel bearing is no good. 20 days later and he's a full investigation. Why the wheel bearing failed. Before you salad, the DOT says it could be on the road. And then you then an axle goes bad and the car's only got fifteen miles on it
It is done so they can do exactly that stress test the systems on the ground where they have as much of control over the parameters and will learn the most with lowest risk. This is very much an experimental vehicle it haven't reach orbit even after all the testing done on it.
And half of the reason that the ground equipment is enduring just as much stress if not more. So far most of their real issues come from failures in the ground equipment not so much the rocket.
This rocket is supposed to land on this tower as well RAPIDLY... so they really have a very long list of challenges ahead of them and stress testing the rocket is only one of many...
Things break. Starship is currently a prototype. They’re stress testing and finding the weak points. Just like literally every vehicle ever. The first cars were even less reliable than your example.
Good, so you take an engine and you just run it till it keeps blowing up. Why spend the amount of hours putting it on a booster? Only for it to explode and ruin your booster and mess up your first stage.
I mean, do you have a whatever he's saying to call Trey? It's just a motive via. Tell me about it, so I'm sorry.
Take an engine, run it 10 times at full launch power full operational minute and sign it off. As been good
@@sushicraves What are you trying to say? Who are you replying to here? A single test is not sufficient. These engines WERE tested on a stand before being loaded in a booster or Starship.
My teeth are starting to ache from this abundance of stainless steel .😂
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Video says stainless steel is lighter than carbon fiber. Is that correct?
No it's not. Elon uses steel coz it's cheaper and cost effective on a industrial scale
That would depend on whether you can make thinner rockets with steel or not and to what extent they are thinner. But certainly not per unit volume.
@@ruschein however you view it , steel is always denser than carbon fiber and it is heavier but the cost of manufacturing is the tricky part
The extra fuel needed to lift the extra weight of the steel is far lower than the money spent in Manufacturing a carbon fiber one
@@partha0212 - That's the point. Carbon fiber is far more lighter than stainless steel., For several other reasons as well Musk made an easy decision that other rocket builders are beginning to follow.
Yeah these are all ai click bait. I just don't recommend channel. Lol😂😂😂
@1:38 somehow $4 BILLION is shown as $4,000,000. lol. So much for accuracy. Try adding 3 more zeros!
Thanks for your contribution. We'll take note and fix this👍
If you’re going to discuss numbers, at least get them right.
Mars will not be possible unless a propulsion system is developed to get there quick, 5 months in space is not viable.
hnmm , you need to put the $4,000,000,000 on the screen when you say 4 Billion and NOT $4,000,000 which is ONLY 4 MILLION , !!
Thanks, we'll take note this
3:51 "Stainless steel is lighter than carbon fiber..." WHAT?! Are you nut? Carbon fiber is about five times lighter than steel in terms of weight.
If you consider the reduction in heat shield weight, maybe not. Big picture
STAINLESS IS NOT LIGHTER
Go Elon Musk Go. The Moon is very close , and Mars is not so far. What about a trip on Uranus, there you find free fuel ready to fill the Space X and come back.
Colonize methane planet😂😂😂
@@alphatech4966 Mars has 95% CO2. and Earth with 415 PPM is problem for all environmentalists.
How is he justifying or paying for the carbon pollution
By also have an electric car company?
and what will be the cost to the atmosphere with so many flights? no one thinks of that.
Pretty much a small drop in a big bucket
What a joke
No, my friend. YOU don't think of that.
Assuming a total payload of 800t of methane & following the stoichiometry of the combustion reaction CH4+2O2→CO2+2H2O, we arrive at a total of ≈137.14kg CO₂ per launch.
For comparison, a commercial jet emits 2.5 to 3.0 kg of CO₂ per liter of fuel. Broad estimate for a flight of 2000km at 2l of fuel/km amounts to about 11000kg of CO₂
Now do your homework & tell me how many jets are in the air at any given moment.
Great analysis 👍
you are no doubt correct i am no expert and do not profess to be one, I would rather get on a plane. I understand going to space but not flying to Australia 10 refuellings to go to the moon and if the world weather changes at the pace it is now you may not be able to launch them or the planes the latest storm in the UK diverted planes to France and Germany and we are having another 2 days after the last one I'm interested in space X I just don't think things are thought from beginning to end are we having thousands of launch places bet the FAA wont like that@@symmetricat188
It is not true that everything can be reused with Starship: The fuel cannot be reused! 🤣
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Actually, the Sabatier Reaction allows you to produce ch4 from hydrogen & co2. Since the byproducts of methane/o2 combustion are co2 & h2o, you're not really losing anything apart from energy (+ a catalyst). Thermodynamics always apply.
@@symmetricat188 I know the Sabatier reaction. But it makes new fuel and does not use the burned one.
@@gottfriedheumesser1994 My point is: since the byproducts of initial combustion don't go away, your source of fuel remains the same, i.e. Earth. co2 is fairly heavy & falls to the ground, to be consumed, split & thereby reintroduced by plants. h2o will condensate & also end up in the cycle.
You will always use co2 & h2o for industrial ch4 production. Hence, there is no "new" fuel, only the energy you have to spend to transform it. "The fuel" is always there. You just need to put in some *W*ork. You reinsert the initial elements into the system & will then have to extract them again.
As to what the probability for one of the same atoms to end up in the next fuel tank might be?
I think the answer is: >0
qed
@@symmetricat188 You are always right!
If SpaceX uses methane from the Sabatier reaction? I would assume they use fossil natural gas.
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Is Musk going to Mars too or is he happy to play God sitting in his room watching what is clearly a suicide mission?
Are you going outside any time soon or just continue sitting in your parent's basement doing nothing useful?
Bro 💀
He also stated he would like to eventually die on mars 🤔 why don’t you join him 👍
@@jamespowton4596 Fr lmao
Elon wants to go to Mars, maby he should go to the moon and back, then i might believe in his starship bs..
Small thinkers are not allowed to visit MarsX. Thanks for giving up your opportunity. Someone else will be pleased that you opted out.
The Starship is actually getting built right now. They are flying test flights with some more happening this year. They fly to failure to find out what doesn't work. As long as it isn't on the taxpayer's dime why do you care? The SX Falcon rocket flew almost 100 times last year. If you dare to check, they blew up a few Falcons trying to figure out how to land them. How did that work out for Musk? Plenty of experts thought he was crazy to try to land a rocket and reuse it again.
How did it work out for America? SX launches more payloads than any other country or all countries combined. SX employees Americans with great paying jobs. Also think about the tax revenues it is creating to help keep your taxes lower. I am kind of searching for the big downside here? Sure, Musk is a weird guy, so what?
You have a very strange definition of BS.
the only thing crazy is anyone repeating what a serial con man said
Name one con Musk has done.
Without listing "promises" that were prefaced with "I hope" or "best case scenario" because he was just giving an optimistic estimate that everyone knew was just hopeful talk.
thuderfoot youtuber has endlesss videos about all of musk bs it would be easier to name what he has not lied about @@liquidator2246