Why?? What about the relationship was that deep to you? Lol I'm sorry but the layers just were not there in that connection. It was a "could be" for Karen and nothing more. Daisy and Billy had so much more of an deep connection.
@@freyareadstarot5277 I genuinely just liked them together..? I did in the book too and thought the book went a little more in depth. I liked Daisy and Billie together too but Karen and Graham’s connection was a little more innocent. It made me sad for Graham. Just because one couple has depth doesn’t mean it takes away from the other…
I loved karen i believe she is the best character ever and i hate how lots of people hate on her for what she did to graham but i think that she let him go cuz she knew that she couldnt give hom the life he wanted and that shows how much she loved him
Karen was very talented but at the end of the day she didn't care about anything but her career- which is fine, but yeah still sad how she did Will. Not surprising though at all- I mean she pretty much told him what it was from the beginning. He just thought he could change her along the way.
nah i would say she broke it off bc she knew in the long run they wouldn't work, they wanted different things in life. i mean yeah, she was also chasing this dream of being a rock star and did find it in the end, but i wouldnt say she thought of her relationship with graham as unimportant. she loved him, very deeply i think too, but she knew if she were to be honest with him in that moment and tell him she loved him too, graham wouldnt have let her walk away from the relationship later on. he loved her so much that he would have stayed with her forever even if he didnt get the life he dreamed of and Karen (bc she cared for him) didnt let that happen, though she hurt him in that moment, i feel like she did what was best for the both of them. but on another note, damn how i wish that they had dived deeper into Karen's character like they did with other side characters like Simone and Teddy..
@@gaeforchaex I do believe she cared about Graham as a friend and that's why she told him. I think there might have been a point in the relationship where she wanted to believe that she could actually commit to someone, but in the end she was just running away from herself - and she realized that which is why she let him go. As far as more depth to her character, I just don't think there was any more depth to her character other than that. She wanted to be a rock and roll star and was a good friend - that's about it.
@@freyareadstarot5277 actually she loved him romantic wise, she just did not wanted a baby thats all and she knew that he dreamed about having a family
Nop, she loved him, and she also loved non romantically the members of the band, she just DIDN’T wanted to have kids, that doesn’t make her a bad woman, she wanted to focus on her life and thats great, she lied to Graham cause she loved him deeply and didn’t wanted him to not have his dream of having kids being real, so she let him go, so he could fullfill his dreams
I think the series got a lot about Karen wrong. Her style, obviously, but most importantly she’s a feminist and would never have done that to the other girl in the car.
Have you seen how "feminist" talk about other women? Funny because they talk about supporting other women, but the instant their opinions don't match them it the 'youre either with us or you're against us' mentality.
I don't think the romantic type of love is special. And I am started to think that the romantic type of love isn't real. I mean about more than half of romantic couples either break up with each other or divorce each other, while most platonic best friends remain friends until death. I think that having a platonic best friend is a lot better than having a romantic partner or spouse is. Having someone who's like a sibling to you is a lot better than having a romantic partner or spouse. Also, you are more likely to be much more closer to someone who's like a brother or sister to you than you would be with a romantic partner or spouse. People tend to fight with their partner or spouse a lot more than they do with a platonic best friend, and you never fight with your best friend the way you fight with your partner or spouse. Partners and spouses are just temporary. If you break up or divorce them, it's hard to go back to them. With your platonic best friend, you're going to make things work, because they are your best friend, they are your go to partner. It's always easier to make amends with them than it is with a romantic partner or spouse.
@TonyMontana-ub9cz Platonic relationships and romantic relationships may be two entirely different things, but that doesn't mean they are equal when it comes to the amount of love given in them. The love in platonic relationships seems to be way stronger than the love in romantic relationships is since platonic relationships are not fragile like romantic relationships are. Also, platonic relationships also seem to be a lot more intimate and comfortable than romantic relationships are. Platonic love is one of the most purest forms of love there is, while romantic love is one of the least purest forms of love there is. Most people seem to be a lot more comfortable around their platonic best friends than they are around their romantic partners or spouses. A platonic best friend is one of the best things you could ever have. A platonic best friend can be someone you trust the most, and they can be your confidant and coach. People tend to trust their platonic best friends more than their romantic partners, and that's a fact.
Platonic relationships and romantic relationships are different. Neither one is better than the other. Each have their purpose. You make a lot of statements like platonic friendships last longer and that best friends are trusted more than romantic partners. You sometimes dangerously present them as facts. I would like to point out that these are your observations. Not evidence based facts. And if there is evidence, please share it. I think you may be hurt, or you may have let jealousy and loneliness eat at your heart. I am familiar with the feeling of longing for a relationship but never getting close to it. It hurts to never get close to something you deeply desire. But I assure you there is healing. If you talk to the people around you and people online you will see that often times people do not drastically prefer their best friend over their spouse or the other way around. Like I said, both are important. Both take the same necessary relationship skills. If you have healthy platonic relationships, you are likely to have healthy romantic relationships, and vice versa. There is one thing we may agree on. That platonic relationships should probably be a part of everyone's life, but not everyone has to have romantic relationships. Although in Eastern cultures especially it may be seen as the other way around. Do you long for a romantic relationship? Do you feel dissatisfied with the relationships in your life?
this is so unrelated but THE GIRL WHO PLAYS THE BARRY MANILOW LOVER WHAT'S THE ACTRESS'S NAME CUZ I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND WHERE ELSE SHE'S FROM FOR SOOOO LONG
No, I believe that she didn't want to stay with him cuz she knew that she wouldn't give him the life he wanted so she let him go and that shows how much she cared about him
Me hubiera quedado siempre con la primera, es difícil pero es bonita inteligente y a la otra solo le interesa ella, q mal plan en la historia, solo se metió para fastidiar:'(
Women who say that they just want a "nice guy, or a gentleman" or some other bs like that. Then just use them when they're convenient for them and keep them in the friendzone, just giving them enough little hope so they'd stick around for the company or attention; never really take them seriously. Then, the second the guy shows higher status, like social proof from other women wanting them. That's the only time they actually notice the guy as a man. And that's when they chase. This depicts female nature and the law of hypergamy that they instinctively follow, whether they're even aware of it or not. Yes, if I sound pissed off I am. Because I've experienced this more than once. My own fault for falling for women's bullshit. But men are visual creatures. And women are master manipulators especially when it comes to physical looks, because they are taught by everyone in society how much beauty is power. (Make-up, plastic surgery, revealing clothing like gym leggings that are literally meant to enhance private regions of the body) not being trapped by a woman's tricks is easier said than done. Not to mention men have 20 times more testosterone (which is a sex hormone) than women. End rant.
Except for Karen's case, she didn't follow the "laws of hypergamy" or whatever red pill bullshit, she never cheated or leave Graham for a higher status guy, I mean who could be more higher status than him. HE WAS A GODDAMN ROCKSTAR. She left because they both wanted different things, and she was honest about that from the start. She quite literally tells Graham " I wanna travel and play music with my friends until I drop dead on stage," and Graham wanted to settle down, get married, and have kids. They both wanted different things, and their desires for the future were incompatible. Also Karen's a grown ass adult, she communicated her needs and wants and goals for her future and she did the most unselfish thing and let Graham go so he could pursue his own future. Granted, she lied to him and said she didn't love him but she said that because if she told the truth, Graham would've given up his own future to be with her. Karen knew in the long run, this would make him unhappy and unsatisfied and she let him go for his own good. That's fucking brave and the most loving thing u could for someone.
@@sahranadif3728 What gets me about her was that she initially shot Graham down, putting him in the friend zone. After which, instead of pinning for her, or holding out hope that she'd change her mind he did the healthy thing and started moving on. Met someone new. A lot of heartache and resentment was avoided - only then for Karen suddenly got jealous. A classic case of wanting what you can't have, I guess. Next thing we know she's jumping in the house - while his new girlfriend is waiting outside in the car. Things are fun for a while, until the reality of what being in a serious, committed, relationship with someone like Graham means hits her in the face with her pregnancy. If she always knew what she did, and didn't, want for herself, then she should've stuck to her original choice to never get involved with Graham, at all.
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"...but I wasn't honest with him." That line kills me every time 😥
i know LIKE WHY WOULD SHE DO THAT
Can someone tell me what she means by that 😭 Saury im kinda slow on this one
@Mommae Milkers It means she loved him too. She had to let him go as he wanted kids and she knew she couldn't make him happy.
@@mariagullonruiz ohh 😭 ok got it thanksss!
Totally makes sense I didn’t even think about tht
i knew it was coming but their ending still broke me😭
saaame! they deserved better 💔
Why?? What about the relationship was that deep to you? Lol I'm sorry but the layers just were not there in that connection. It was a "could be" for Karen and nothing more. Daisy and Billy had so much more of an deep connection.
@@freyareadstarot5277 I genuinely just liked them together..? I did in the book too and thought the book went a little more in depth. I liked Daisy and Billie together too but Karen and Graham’s connection was a little more innocent. It made me sad for Graham. Just because one couple has depth doesn’t mean it takes away from the other…
I adored Graham and Karen in the book and the series!! Was rooting for them even though, I knew how their relationship ends
ohhh they broke my heart 💔💔. i loved them so so much 😭
i loved them too so much! they had potential but i understand karen's point of view :/
I want a graham so bad THEY WERE SO GOOD TOGETHER WHY WOULD THEY DO THAT TO US
ask taylor jenkins reid 😭
Suki was fabulous in this role . Love her more ❤❤❤❤❤
I loved karen i believe she is the best character ever and i hate how lots of people hate on her for what she did to graham but i think that she let him go cuz she knew that she couldnt give hom the life he wanted and that shows how much she loved him
i personally think she was more likeable in the book but yes, she didn’t deserve the backlash
love them so much! this video is so good!! 🧡
thank you!! 💗
The Taylor Swift ending fit so well I was caught off guard 😂
they’re all taylor swift’s songs hahaha
Karen was very talented but at the end of the day she didn't care about anything but her career- which is fine, but yeah still sad how she did Will. Not surprising though at all- I mean she pretty much told him what it was from the beginning. He just thought he could change her along the way.
nah i would say she broke it off bc she knew in the long run they wouldn't work, they wanted different things in life. i mean yeah, she was also chasing this dream of being a rock star and did find it in the end, but i wouldnt say she thought of her relationship with graham as unimportant. she loved him, very deeply i think too, but she knew if she were to be honest with him in that moment and tell him she loved him too, graham wouldnt have let her walk away from the relationship later on. he loved her so much that he would have stayed with her forever even if he didnt get the life he dreamed of and Karen (bc she cared for him) didnt let that happen, though she hurt him in that moment, i feel like she did what was best for the both of them.
but on another note, damn how i wish that they had dived deeper into Karen's character like they did with other side characters like Simone and Teddy..
@@gaeforchaex I do believe she cared about Graham as a friend and that's why she told him. I think there might have been a point in the relationship where she wanted to believe that she could actually commit to someone, but in the end she was just running away from herself - and she realized that which is why she let him go. As far as more depth to her character, I just don't think there was any more depth to her character other than that. She wanted to be a rock and roll star and was a good friend - that's about it.
@@freyareadstarot5277 actually she loved him romantic wise, she just did not wanted a baby thats all and she knew that he dreamed about having a family
Nop, she loved him, and she also loved non romantically the members of the band, she just DIDN’T wanted to have kids, that doesn’t make her a bad woman, she wanted to focus on her life and thats great, she lied to Graham cause she loved him deeply and didn’t wanted him to not have his dream of having kids being real, so she let him go, so he could fullfill his dreams
The end of the video LITERALLY shows she loved him.
They were my favorite couple ✨
the best couple in the Tv show and they didn’t end together
They were the best couple that they ruined 😢❤❤
Camila was really the reason for every great thing
esto me rompió el corazón (los amo)
It was good while it lasted 😭😩
I think the series got a lot about Karen wrong. Her style, obviously, but most importantly she’s a feminist and would never have done that to the other girl in the car.
yep i honestly agree. didn't feel right to add that scene. i felt bad for the other girl
Is this a show or movie? If so what’s the name? I’d like to watch it.
@@frantzdyalexandre6295 it's a show adapted from a book named « daisy jones & the six » :)
Have you seen how "feminist" talk about other women? Funny because they talk about supporting other women, but the instant their opinions don't match them it the 'youre either with us or you're against us' mentality.
@@IDiggPattyMayonnaise but I’m a feminist and I… love women? Women shouldn’t be pitted against each other, they can all get along.
The 1🤌❤
12:16 breaks my heart 💔🤧
i don’t get what happened honestly sorry i’m kinda slow
she got an abortion
I don't think the romantic type of love is special. And I am started to think that the romantic type of love isn't real. I mean about more than half of romantic couples either break up with each other or divorce each other, while most platonic best friends remain friends until death.
I think that having a platonic best friend is a lot better than having a romantic partner or spouse is. Having someone who's like a sibling to you is a lot better than having a romantic partner or spouse. Also, you are more likely to be much more closer to someone who's like a brother or sister to you than you would be with a romantic partner or spouse.
People tend to fight with their partner or spouse a lot more than they do with a platonic best friend, and you never fight with your best friend the way you fight with your partner or spouse. Partners and spouses are just temporary. If you break up or divorce them, it's hard to go back to them. With your platonic best friend, you're going to make things work, because they are your best friend, they are your go to partner. It's always easier to make amends with them than it is with a romantic partner or spouse.
@TonyMontana-ub9cz Platonic relationships and romantic relationships may be two entirely different things, but that doesn't mean they are equal when it comes to the amount of love given in them. The love in platonic relationships seems to be way stronger than the love in romantic relationships is since platonic relationships are not fragile like romantic relationships are.
Also, platonic relationships also seem to be a lot more intimate and comfortable than romantic relationships are. Platonic love is one of the most purest forms of love there is, while romantic love is one of the least purest forms of love there is.
Most people seem to be a lot more comfortable around their platonic best friends than they are around their romantic partners or spouses.
A platonic best friend is one of the best things you could ever have. A platonic best friend can be someone you trust the most, and they can be your confidant and coach.
People tend to trust their platonic best friends more than their romantic partners, and that's a fact.
I totally agree
Platonic relationships and romantic relationships are different. Neither one is better than the other. Each have their purpose.
You make a lot of statements like platonic friendships last longer and that best friends are trusted more than romantic partners. You sometimes dangerously present them as facts. I would like to point out that these are your observations. Not evidence based facts. And if there is evidence, please share it.
I think you may be hurt, or you may have let jealousy and loneliness eat at your heart. I am familiar with the feeling of longing for a relationship but never getting close to it. It hurts to never get close to something you deeply desire. But I assure you there is healing.
If you talk to the people around you and people online you will see that often times people do not drastically prefer their best friend over their spouse or the other way around. Like I said, both are important. Both take the same necessary relationship skills. If you have healthy platonic relationships, you are likely to have healthy romantic relationships, and vice versa.
There is one thing we may agree on. That platonic relationships should probably be a part of everyone's life, but not everyone has to have romantic relationships. Although in Eastern cultures especially it may be seen as the other way around.
Do you long for a romantic relationship? Do you feel dissatisfied with the relationships in your life?
@@icysnow57cold64that's not true. i've never met anyone who was more comfortable with their best friend than with their partner.
Love themmmm
this is so unrelated but THE GIRL WHO PLAYS THE BARRY MANILOW LOVER WHAT'S THE ACTRESS'S NAME CUZ I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIND WHERE ELSE SHE'S FROM FOR SOOOO LONG
WHO WHAT
Karen didn't even deserve a minute of Graham' s time. I hated her with a passion.
she was more likeable in the book in my opinion :)
Nope nope I cannot do this 😭😭
the name of the series?
daisy jones & the six
What's the title please
daisy jones and the six
But he would of followed her anywhere why didn't she just say yes I love you
because she knew that he wouldn't truly be happy in that life. what he wanted was a family (wife and kids)
Not fair... 💔
12:16
The lady was super toxic
Don’t agree with that
was misrepresented in the film
No, I believe that she didn't want to stay with him cuz she knew that she wouldn't give him the life he wanted so she let him go and that shows how much she cared about him
no she wasn't
Is that Suki Waterhouse 🤔
yes it is!
What show is this
daisy jones & the six
Karen 😂😂😂
Me hubiera quedado siempre con la primera, es difícil pero es bonita inteligente y a la otra solo le interesa ella, q mal plan en la historia, solo se metió para fastidiar:'(
They could have been together but no!!!!!!!!!
tv series?
daisy jones and the six
Which is this episode
it’s an edit of all the 8 episodes
Women who say that they just want a "nice guy, or a gentleman" or some other bs like that. Then just use them when they're convenient for them and keep them in the friendzone, just giving them enough little hope so they'd stick around for the company or attention; never really take them seriously.
Then, the second the guy shows higher status, like social proof from other women wanting them. That's the only time they actually notice the guy as a man. And that's when they chase.
This depicts female nature and the law of hypergamy that they instinctively follow, whether they're even aware of it or not.
Yes, if I sound pissed off I am. Because I've experienced this more than once. My own fault for falling for women's bullshit. But men are visual creatures. And women are master manipulators especially when it comes to physical looks, because they are taught by everyone in society how much beauty is power. (Make-up, plastic surgery, revealing clothing like gym leggings that are literally meant to enhance private regions of the body) not being trapped by a woman's tricks is easier said than done. Not to mention men have 20 times more testosterone (which is a sex hormone) than women. End rant.
bro calm down, it’s just an edit
Except for Karen's case, she didn't follow the "laws of hypergamy" or whatever red pill bullshit, she never cheated or leave Graham for a higher status guy, I mean who could be more higher status than him. HE WAS A GODDAMN ROCKSTAR. She left because they both wanted different things, and she was honest about that from the start.
She quite literally tells Graham " I wanna travel and play music with my friends until I drop dead on stage," and Graham wanted to settle down, get married, and have kids. They both wanted different things, and their desires for the future were incompatible. Also Karen's a grown ass adult, she communicated her needs and wants and goals for her future and she did the most unselfish thing and let Graham go so he could pursue his own future. Granted, she lied to him and said she didn't love him but she said that because if she told the truth, Graham would've given up his own future to be with her. Karen knew in the long run, this would make him unhappy and unsatisfied and she let him go for his own good. That's fucking brave and the most loving thing u could for someone.
And whatever u wrote doesn't make sense or apply to the situation of Karen and Graham, so quote literally irrelevant 🤷
Incel detected
@@sahranadif3728 What gets me about her was that she initially shot Graham down, putting him in the friend zone. After which, instead of pinning for her, or holding out hope that she'd change her mind he did the healthy thing and started moving on. Met someone new. A lot of heartache and resentment was avoided - only then for Karen suddenly got jealous. A classic case of wanting what you can't have, I guess. Next thing we know she's jumping in the house - while his new girlfriend is waiting outside in the car. Things are fun for a while, until the reality of what being in a serious, committed, relationship with someone like Graham means hits her in the face with her pregnancy.
If she always knew what she did, and didn't, want for herself, then she should've stuck to her original choice to never get involved with Graham, at all.
this is so sad but cute