How uncanny. Back in 71 ,I went to France with a friend on a motorcycle tour with an Ariel square 4. We had an accident at a junction where a pickup pulled into our path and wrecked the front of the bike. Fortunately a fellow biker saw the incident and helped us by letting us stay at his apartment which he was refurbishing for his marital home nearby. The use of his garage for imported parts for repairs was very decent of him. Where I had to straighten the frame, forks and replace front wheel assembly .In the process we ran out of funds ,but incredibly I made some 45f by repainting his dads white Fiat Dino (which was my trade)after which he gave us a tour of Paris. Which enabled us to continue our extended trip around France. Thanks for a great memory of an awesome machine.
@fipzav8641 i was just going to say this. I personally have no interest in the fast and the furious. A true motorhead movie would be like this: the open road, good friends, good machines, and the speedbumps experienced along the way. Thats what being a motorhead is all about imo
🙏 you all for👍. We started with two weeks and ended up with a month.The trip turned into a more adventurous story having left Paris and driven over the freezing alps to Grenoble sur Gap and on to various camp sites and towns to St Michel and St Tropez. I still have the photos of me eating grapes from the fields and picking fresh corn cobs. A great fortuitous journey recalled 50 years on because of a historically great car . Sadly have lost touch with my companion.
Adventure, especially on motorcycles, makes for an interesting life few would ever experience. I spent 18 months travelling around Australia (2.5 laps) on my cruiser road bike, with 100kg of gear tied down on it.. everything needed to live on the road for extended periods. You meet truly good people and have memories to last two lifetimes.
20 years ago I bought one of these for under 20k€, the interior wasn't great. It was an early 2.0 engine gone over by Moser Racing in Vienna (original Abarth distributors). It was an absolute screamer, probably closer to 180hp Ferrari claimed. I had the seats done and put some effort into wiring and under bonnet area. The only car I've ever sold for a net profit, when I needed a down payment for an apartment. The new owner takes it to Ennstal Classic every year so I still see it.
Cool story. With all the work done on your car, did it improve low end power compared to Jack's 100 point example? This car looks even better in person.
@oregongaper At the time of me buying it, the engine work had already been done, at considerable costs compared to what the car was worth back then. The previous owner wasn't happy with the power and had instructed Mr. Moser senior (he had been one of Jochen Rindts mechanics) to build him the most powerful engine possible. Mr. Moser obliged and installed a lightened flywheel, lumpier competition cams, lightened internals, it was ported and polished, bigger jets in the carburettors and a competition clutch. Low down there wasn't much, but it flew up the rev range and came alive above 3.500. The previous owner didn't like how it drove after the modifications. Stalling it with the fierce clutch was quite easy, and at cold starts it sounded quite rough, so I managed to buy it for basically a bit more than the modifications cost. The current owner has had the engine detuned somewhat, with standard cams, flywheel and clutch.
@@AxLWake I guess it's that forward-facing airbox design, I suppose it doesn't direct the sound into the cabin as much as a usual filter (or mesh screen!) on a Weber carb without an enclosure.
There are plenty of FIATs from this era that go and drive much better that the competition, but many not pretty and rotted very rapidly in a damp climate. The twin cam engine was wonderful.
I rather like all the Fiats from the 60s and 70s, the little 850 coupe is a fave as is the 124 sport coupe. I had a yellow CC 1800 and it was very nice indeed.
I think it sounds beautiful; the sound is elegant with peaks of fury. I find it Mozartian and similar to the Alfa Romeo 'Busso'. And the styling is one of Giugiaro's top 10. When I was very little -three years old - I confused it with the original Aston Martin V8 (my father took me to see 'On her majesty's secret service' - I was 3)
Incredible line of cars Giugiaro had already put out at such a young age. Hes my al time favorite car designer. Amazingly versatile. He had the biggest impact on how cars looked from the 60s into the 80s
Maybe the sound in the cabin is very muted because the dude complained about it but I do agree with you, when filmed from the outside it did sound glorious.
This has to be one of the most gorgeous Italian classics I have ever seen especially in this color. Hard to believe it's only a 2 liter. Sounds lovely too, in my opinion. Great video!
FIAT in those years was not humble, it had the most complete and interesting range of all; it had bought Ferrari and was motorizing the world, from the USSR to Egypt, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Poland, Yugoslavia, India etc etc. His 128 had just become VW's reference model for the new Golf
The sound your looking for is in the front. The ITG filter kit from SF would be all you need. To sample before purchase, just remove the lid off stock unit and take a drive. Personally I am happy with the original setup - always a treat to drive. Though the live axle does not look good on paper it works great on the road! A few more hours. or a couple of days and its possible you would be using your right foot to lead the dance with the rear wheels in a most delicate and satisfying manner.
@@alphatrion100 Yep, I really liked the original Manta, they said at the time it was like a baby Aston, but it sure resembles the Bertone shape... Who penned the Opel I wonder?
@strat0871 Yep, I hadn't looked at one for ages. Back in the day they looked really sharp.. Not quite so much as I remember as I look again? Funny that..
Who was crazy enough to let you loose with that??! Lovely. Great colour combo. Nearly bought one of these 15 months ago on fleaBay but was outbid by £50. Went and bought a Granturismo in revenge ! And as much as I love it I probably should have bid a bit more. Engine in the Dino sounds quite similar to a Merak (from memory)
Just gorgeous. Bet it smells like it should inside too. I thought the exhaust note sounded perfect from the outside. Really enjoying the more historical/contextual detail in the videos, Jack. Great stuff!
1:07 I love this profile view. It reminds me of the Iso Griffo, one of the more perfectly balanced designs. Maybe you'll get to test one of those before too long, Jack?
I loved the Wheeler Dealers episode where they bought one that had been impounded by the Italian police a couple of decades previously and fixed it up. Great looking car - pretty car 🙂
Raked steering wheels were common back in the day - it helps you get your strength behind it and pull towards you when at parking speeds - remembering that this is before power steering became ubiquitous. FIAT and Alfa also had a tendency to overdo the rake a little, but I'm told it was common practice in Italy at the time to hold the lower rim when driving, shuffling it from hand to hand, rather than the classic "10 to 2" position...which makes the reach to the wheel so much more comfortable, even letting you put the seat back a little to stretch your legs..
@@ernestfinch1578 Yes, I should have said and accidentally omitted - well pointed out 👍. Although instigated by Giugiaro, Gandini did indeed refine and complete the design, and is appropriately credited. 🙏
I love the never ending enthusiasm and a child's joy in his eyes, every time, just every car you can see in his channel! He's highlighting just the pluses, no negatives, just what you need to know to enjoy the car! The negatives goes like the dry specifications, a right approach, thank you, sir! Good things first!
My very best friend ( and best man at my wedding) had one in Canada and it was offered to me for sale. I didn’t know much about the engine that was in it and the timing wasn’t tight. Wow! Thanks for this video and all the driving fun. What a great car. I was always partial to sporting coupes and sedans over convertibles.
I love these! I need to find one for my garage some day. I forgot it was in The Italian Job. That makes it even more important since I’ll likely never be able to afford a Miura!!!
Great review Jack, unfortunately you have let the cat out of the bag, it was a bit of a secret squirrel car. Now everyone will want one. Seriously they are wonderful cars. The Ferarri Dino wouldn't have existed without Fiat building the engines for Enzo to go racing, so the car on many levels is truly important. It's only now that they are starting to get the praise they deserve. Hats off to Alex Dupe with his lovely example.
Wonderful! Love to see your joy above 4 500 revs! 🙂 Great video from an english/italian guy with the correct pronunciation in both laguages. Really enjoyed this. Thanks/grazie!
Loved the video, thanks very much!! Although I have never driven a 2000, I have been a long time owner of a 2400 Coupe. Indeed, the heavier car (cast-iron block with 180 hp instead of 160) makes it a slightly different animal. Bigger block, ZF dogleg gears, better dash (imho, gauges more centralized), different seats, all in all making this a true GT. Funnily enough also the Dino 246 always had slightly more hp than the other cars with the same engine, I believe 190 or 195 hp. I agree with your comments that Ferrari would not have it to deliver the same power as the other cars. Which brings me to a little surprise! If I am correct, the way that was envisaged to reach the right number of engines for homologation was a spread over 3 brands even. Ferrari with the Dino (which was not allowed to be called Ferrari, due to NOT being a 12 cylinder), Fiat but also Lancia!!! You forgot to mention the famous Stratos - the rally champion of the 70's - which has the very same 2400 Engine. Eventually there were much more than 500 engines produced and on the road, I guess the choice for this engine was a bigger success than old Enzo could imagine. Even despite the fact that the Fiat was equally expensive as (or even more) a DB, E-type or 911. But I enjoyed the massive grin 🙂
I see they have a low mileage 2400 dino coupe also. It would be interesting to see you review the two of them back to back. Amazing that they have two at the same time the same color w/ both motor options.
The greatest Fiat ever, especially in coupe form. Stunning in a way the Ferrari Dino, for me, just isn't. And, muted or not, an Italian V6 knocks the socks off a V8 or V12 for sheer musicality. 43 years on, I still beat myself up over my failure to buy a coupe for £5000 when it was offered. Your best review yet!
That surely must be one of the most beautiful looking cars of the 60's, the Fiat 130 you did recently also another great car, the 130 Coupe must be the best looking car of the 70's,great review by the way👍
Was that not an Ansa sticker I saw on the tailpipe? Apologies if I'm wrong but most old Italian cars end up with an Ansa as they are easier to come by than standard systems
What an epic vintage Italian car in mint condition! It sounds gloriously for a V6 (no comparison to modern vacuum cleaner-like turbocharged mills and/or overly flatulent exhausts).Thank you Jack for sharing with us your true love and passion for cars that still had/have soul in them. I find your shows as informative and interesting as to be viewed till the end, yet the greatest advantage is the contagious enthusiasm that spurts from each one of them.
Maybe the best video job I have ever seen in capturing the essence of the car, though I would have liked to have seen through the windshield as well when accelerating, and hear the car a little with the windows down. Great inside filming, best ever! The front window appears big, and looks like good headroom! This is somewhere in the top five of my favorite cars along with theJames Bond Austin Martin model, Austin Healy MK111, Jaguar XKE, and the 1974 Dino Ferrari.
Another fantastic review Jack... really loved it. Now the engine is the jewel in this car and you're right that the whole project came about because of Ferrari needing to comply with F2 regulations at the time. The only problem was that of all the F2 engines of the 2.0 era, this was the worst... and by some margin. Through the 1970s, by far and away the best was the BMW M12/6 or M12/7. It cleaned up against the Ford BDG. 4-cylinder configuration appeared to be the way to go and when the homologation requirements were lifted in the mid 1970s and pure race engines were allowed, Brian Hart produced the Ford based 420 series which was very potent. Then Honda arrived with the V6 RA260E series in mid 1980 and together with the ground effect Ralt chassis dominated the class until it's eventual replacement with F3000.
Your videos are great reminder for those who buy their cars only by looking for something that will be reliable, but in the end after 40 or 50 years when they look behind they will see all the bland cars they owned. But your videos show how important is to choose a car with some character, everything else about the reliability fades away. Also, reliability today is not a problem, also people get problems with those reliable brands as well, so hard to get some general rule with this. I would say, the life is too short to drive a boring car.
The Nardi wheel is not contemporary (too small, too thick). That apart, I always wanted that engine in my 124 spider (no idea whether it would fit inside). I remember when these cars were available at 15000€ in good shape, since no one wanted them. As time goes by.
Retired mechanic here, I haven't worked on the Fiat Dino, but I did spend a lot of time under the bonnet of the Ferrari Dino. I think your timing chains are making more noise than they should
I really love your videos and the cars. Is it possible to tweak your graphic equalizer audio settings to improve the sound quality when you are talking at louder volumes?
Thanks Jack, what a lovely car. Sure I am biased as I have a history of Fiats. 125s, 124, and a few hot 131s and a 130. That car is unique. It is a Fiat and no rust! We had a kit to fix the steering wheel location. All Fiats handled and most were understeer with lift off oversteer. I only saw one Fiat Dino in Australia. But sadly Fiat like a few other manufacturers have lost their way.
hehehe. True about the rust. I guess the trick is that they were not built at FIAT. The coupes were built at Bertone and the spiders were built at Pininfarina. Similar to the Lancia Gamma coupes I had, which were also built at Pininfarina. Those cars usually are better build quality than many of the FIAT built cars.
I missed the most important videos… wow. I AM IN LOVE WITH THE FIAT DINO COUPE! (Especially the 2400) Damn this is such a great car 😍🇮🇹. The looks, the sound Damn I love it
Did some refinish work on one of these cars,, drove it on the Los Angeles freeways,, It likes top speed,,, and it is as solid as a rock, smooth ride....
Another great drive...and my first close up look at one of these. And from the fun you had, I can see this as a worthy replacement for Influenzo. Waiting to see what you do.
Briefly had a green coupe when I was a kid. Sounded amazing. I saw a modded version years ago and fell in love. Remove the bumpers and it’s one of the most beautiful coupes ever!
What a lovely, balanced car! I have never seen one IRL, not sure they ever made it over to Canada. I am curious how much such a fine motor car would cost.
I have seen both the Coupe and the spyder in person in the States, so I am sure a few made it to Canada. Unfortunately many Fiat's died to keep the Ferrari 206 and 246s running. It was cheaper to buy one of the fiats and steal the engine out of it than to rebuild the V6. As much as I love roadsters, I think the coupe is a much better looking design.
@@sailingspark9748 thanks for that report. This gives me hope I might come across one of these Fiats at a car show some day. It is sad when a fine car becomes a donor for something perceived as more worthy. I expect to burn in hell for my part in helping a friend sacrifice a Mk 1Lotus Cortina to put the engine in a Caterham Super 7 kit back in the 1970s.
That grill is one of my favorites after having a ‘72 Fiat 124 SC. Thoroughly enjoyed that car, but it was a crash magnet, five times and never my fault and even parked it got hit. It was a beautiful little sporty car.
Gorgeous car. I remember the Wheeler Dealer episode, from the early TV show series, where Mike Brewer bought one in Italy that had been sitting in a government/customs warehouse for decades and had very low mileage.
What a great car I've always liked them right from when they were first introduced. Don't know why you're complaining about that exhaust, it sounds gorgeous. Changing it would be a tragedy, it doesn't want to be any louder it would just attract unwanted attention.
I think the loss of son Dino, really hit old Enzo hard, possibly another reason he lost interest in road cars. This is one of my favourite cars of all time. Loved this video Jack💚🤍❤
Every time I see the video tile, I think it's an Isuzu 117 Coupe. I saw a few 117s in Japan and they share the same base design as the Fiat Dino (Giugiaro often used the exact same concept for many cars).
Fiat should make a Revival Model of this gorgeous and glorious car. In my view, the nicest Car ever made. Fit for a King. And the price was great. No need to sell the Crown's jewels...
Great car,great video. When Fiat was one of the most important brands in the world,they were able to build these cars.Luxurious gran turismos,quality cars that were at the same level of Bmw or Mercedes. The Dino is a wonderful example of that era,elegant,noble and with an engine famous for its sound.The 2400 was even better than this,but this was the original and represents the original idea.After the Dino,they had the 130 coupè that inspired the Rolls Royce Camargue and was a fantastic example of quality and design. Fiat's catalogue in those years was full of beautiful sporty models for everybody: the 850 coupè and spider Bertone,the 124 coupè and spider Pininfarina,the Dino coupè Bertone and spider Pininfarina,and later the 128 Sport SL,the X1/9 Bertone and the 130 coupè Pininfarina....What a difference with nowadays!!
Jack, I imported the 2400 Dino that Alex Jupe has for sale, happy to share info if you are considering. My 16 year old son rates this as the best sounding engine I've owned; i found it frantic, guttural, and thoroughly endearing, whilst turning me into a hooligan seeking out tunnels to explore all of the rev range...😮
Years ago, a friend owned a 246gt Dino fitted with a stebro exhaust. It was one of the best sounding engines I had heard at the time and sounded incredible even at start-up. Yet here in North America, the only gasoline powered anything (American Made) that sounds good with less than 8 cylinders are Harley Davidson Motorcycles.
How uncanny. Back in 71 ,I went to France with a friend on a motorcycle tour with an Ariel square 4. We had an accident at a junction where a pickup pulled into our path and wrecked the front of the bike. Fortunately a fellow biker saw the incident and helped us by letting us stay at his apartment which he was refurbishing for his marital home nearby. The use of his garage for imported parts for repairs was very decent of him. Where I had to straighten the frame, forks and replace front wheel assembly .In the process we ran out of funds ,but incredibly I made some 45f by repainting his dads white Fiat Dino (which was my trade)after which he gave us a tour of Paris. Which enabled us to continue our extended trip around France. Thanks for a great memory of an awesome machine.
that is the basis of a great film
@fipzav8641 i was just going to say this. I personally have no interest in the fast and the furious. A true motorhead movie would be like this: the open road, good friends, good machines, and the speedbumps experienced along the way. Thats what being a motorhead is all about imo
🙏 you all for👍. We started with two weeks and ended up with a month.The trip turned into a more adventurous story having left Paris and driven over the freezing alps to Grenoble sur Gap and on to various camp sites and towns to St Michel and St Tropez. I still have the photos of me eating grapes from the fields and picking fresh corn cobs. A great fortuitous journey recalled 50 years on because of a historically great car . Sadly have lost touch with my companion.
Adventure, especially on motorcycles, makes for an interesting life few would ever experience. I spent 18 months travelling around Australia (2.5 laps) on my cruiser road bike, with 100kg of gear tied down on it.. everything needed to live on the road for extended periods. You meet truly good people and have memories to last two lifetimes.
Wow, that's very cool...
one of the most beautiful cars ever built
20 years ago I bought one of these for under 20k€, the interior wasn't great. It was an early 2.0 engine gone over by Moser Racing in Vienna (original Abarth distributors).
It was an absolute screamer, probably closer to 180hp Ferrari claimed.
I had the seats done and put some effort into wiring and under bonnet area.
The only car I've ever sold for a net profit, when I needed a down payment for an apartment.
The new owner takes it to Ennstal Classic every year so I still see it.
Cool story. With all the work done on your car, did it improve low end power compared to Jack's 100 point example? This car looks even better in person.
@oregongaper At the time of me buying it, the engine work had already been done, at considerable costs compared to what the car was worth back then.
The previous owner wasn't happy with the power and had instructed Mr. Moser senior (he had been one of Jochen Rindts mechanics) to build him the most powerful engine possible.
Mr. Moser obliged and installed a lightened flywheel, lumpier competition cams, lightened internals, it was ported and polished, bigger jets in the carburettors and a competition clutch.
Low down there wasn't much, but it flew up the rev range and came alive above 3.500.
The previous owner didn't like how it drove after the modifications. Stalling it with the fierce clutch was quite easy, and at cold starts it sounded quite rough, so I managed to buy it for basically a bit more than the modifications cost.
The current owner has had the engine detuned somewhat, with standard cams, flywheel and clutch.
@uesnizburunuz.f1gpformulauno it was actually 1.988 litre engine to comply with Italian tax laws. But always marketed as Fiat Dino 2000 so as a 2.0l.
Giugiaro created so many masterpiece designs.. I'm continually in awe of what all he came up with.
Amazing car. When wheeler dealers had one and changed the orange carpets I was crying. Beautiful
Love the Dino Coupe . Thought about buying one years ago after selling my Porsche 911
First Fiat I would actually pay money for. Simply gorgeous, and what a sound!
Check out the 130 Coupe and that will be your second!
I don't know how it sounds in the cabin, this dude complained about it but it sure did sound glorious when filmed from the outside.
@@AxLWake I guess it's that forward-facing airbox design, I suppose it doesn't direct the sound into the cabin as much as a usual filter (or mesh screen!) on a Weber carb without an enclosure.
There are plenty of FIATs from this era that go and drive much better that the competition, but many not pretty and rotted very rapidly in a damp climate. The twin cam engine was wonderful.
I rather like all the Fiats from the 60s and 70s, the little 850 coupe is a fave as is the 124 sport coupe. I had a yellow CC 1800 and it was very nice indeed.
I think it sounds beautiful; the sound is elegant with peaks of fury. I find it Mozartian and similar to the Alfa Romeo 'Busso'. And the styling is one of Giugiaro's top 10. When I was very little -three years old - I confused it with the original Aston Martin V8 (my father took me to see 'On her majesty's secret service' - I was 3)
Incredible line of cars Giugiaro had already put out at such a young age. Hes my al time favorite car designer. Amazingly versatile. He had the biggest impact on how cars looked from the 60s into the 80s
Maybe the sound in the cabin is very muted because the dude complained about it but I do agree with you, when filmed from the outside it did sound glorious.
Mozartian, 😂, very nice!
This has to be one of the most gorgeous Italian classics I have ever seen especially in this color. Hard to believe it's only a 2 liter. Sounds lovely too, in my opinion. Great video!
It grew to 2.4L by '69.
FIAT in those years was not humble, it had the most complete and interesting range of all; it had bought Ferrari and was motorizing the world, from the USSR to Egypt, Spain, Argentina, Brazil, Poland, Yugoslavia, India etc etc.
His 128 had just become VW's reference model for the new Golf
In my humble opinion, one of the most beautiful designed cars to ever exist, would love to own one.
I owned one in the late 90s and through to the mid noughties. Special cars.
Dont forget the Aston Matin DBS
The sound your looking for is in the front. The ITG filter kit from SF would be all you need. To sample before purchase, just remove the lid off stock unit and take a drive. Personally I am happy with the original setup - always a treat to drive. Though the live axle does not look good on paper it works great on the road! A few more hours. or a couple of days and its possible you would be using your right foot to lead the dance with the rear wheels in a most delicate and satisfying manner.
This engine, with trumpets on the carbs= the best V6 sounds (and I love the Busso V6, but this is on another level)
Looking at the car again in this video, you can see a few areas where Ford may have been "inspired" by as they designed the original Capri.
I see an opel Manta A when I look at this front
@@alphatrion100 True! My family used to have a couple of those. I definitely have fond memories of them.
@@alphatrion100 Yep, I really liked the original Manta, they said at the time it was like a baby Aston, but it sure resembles the Bertone shape... Who penned the Opel I wonder?
Right, but the front grille looks more like a Capri mk III, or the Aston DBS of that time.
@strat0871 Yep, I hadn't looked at one for ages. Back in the day they looked really sharp.. Not quite so much as I remember as I look again? Funny that..
Who was crazy enough to let you loose with that??! Lovely. Great colour combo. Nearly bought one of these 15 months ago on fleaBay but was outbid by £50. Went and bought a Granturismo in revenge ! And as much as I love it I probably should have bid a bit more. Engine in the Dino sounds quite similar to a Merak (from memory)
Lovely looking car
Agreed. I can't think of another Fiat that has presented as well as this. Oh, and that blue!
Greenhouse visibility seems fantastic in there too. A beautiful car. ❤️
What fantastic video Jack & wow what a wonderful car! And ive learned something too
Thanks Carl!!
Thanks Jack, great looking & sounding car, & your enthusiasm always goes up a notch when talking about Italian cars! 🙏🙏
Italian cars, it's in his blood & DNA.
Just gorgeous. Bet it smells like it should inside too. I thought the exhaust note sounded perfect from the outside. Really enjoying the more historical/contextual detail in the videos, Jack. Great stuff!
Standard exhaust maybe but it still sounds great to me!
1:07 I love this profile view. It reminds me of the Iso Griffo, one of the more perfectly balanced designs. Maybe you'll get to test one of those before too long, Jack?
Good looking for sure, but it's roof looks a little bulbous. Sorta like an AMC Marlin or a 1st gen '66/7 Charger.
OMG ...a "real car" on youtube! ! ! ! One of my fav stylings, 2nd to the Maserati Ghibli 1968.
Thanks!
Thank you Philip!
Absolutely stunning car! Funny I just watched the Italian job on Saturday it was on film 4 .... anyway fantastic car ! Cracking stuff Jack 👍
65 degrees?
Reminds me of my old Honda Magna!
Greetings, as always, from the Netherlands
Great review Jack, one of my all time favourite cars!
I loved the Wheeler Dealers episode where they bought one that had been impounded by the Italian police a couple of decades previously and fixed it up. Great looking car - pretty car 🙂
Raked steering wheels were common back in the day - it helps you get your strength behind it and pull towards you when at parking speeds - remembering that this is before power steering became ubiquitous. FIAT and Alfa also had a tendency to overdo the rake a little, but I'm told it was common practice in Italy at the time to hold the lower rim when driving, shuffling it from hand to hand, rather than the classic "10 to 2" position...which makes the reach to the wheel so much more comfortable, even letting you put the seat back a little to stretch your legs..
How stupid, why is he complaining about the noise? This engine sounds mind blowing beautiful
The car needs a turbocharger Like Turbo May in Ford V6
@Haffschlappe no it doesn't, what would compell you to say that??
Lovely car. You can tell its from the Bertone stable with Giugiaro's touch and finesse. I'd happily buy and drive that Fiat 👍
Marcello Gandini gets credit for the Design .
@@ernestfinch1578 Yes, I should have said and accidentally omitted - well pointed out 👍. Although instigated by Giugiaro, Gandini did indeed refine and complete the design, and is appropriately credited. 🙏
I love the never ending enthusiasm and a child's joy in his eyes, every time, just every car you can see in his channel! He's highlighting just the pluses, no negatives, just what you need to know to enjoy the car! The negatives goes like the dry specifications, a right approach, thank you, sir! Good things first!
My very best friend ( and best man at my wedding) had one in Canada and it was offered to me for sale. I didn’t know much about the engine that was in it and the timing wasn’t tight. Wow! Thanks for this video and all the driving fun. What a great car. I was always partial to sporting coupes and sedans over convertibles.
I love these! I need to find one for my garage some day. I forgot it was in The Italian Job. That makes it even more important since I’ll likely never be able to afford a Miura!!!
210 l drums on the assembly line ------ I LOVE IT ...THANK YOU --JACK ---
It’s gorgeous. I love it.
I remember Mal Nicholson from Trentside Garage in Lincolnshire had a modified 2 litre that revved to around 8k, it sounded awesome, great cars
He still has it & his daughter has a Spider 👍
I want one. What a beautiful car.
I don't know how it sounded in the car, but imo the exhaust note through the mic was pretty special. It does sound unique though, you're right.
Great review Jack, unfortunately you have let the cat out of the bag, it was a bit of a secret squirrel car. Now everyone will want one. Seriously they are wonderful cars. The Ferarri Dino wouldn't have existed without Fiat building the engines for Enzo to go racing, so the car on many levels is truly important. It's only now that they are starting to get the praise they deserve. Hats off to Alex Dupe with his lovely example.
they've been on the up for a while: a few years ago, maybe5(?) there were some 20KEuro cars about, now anything decent is 40-50K
Wonderful! Love to see your joy above 4 500 revs! 🙂 Great video from an english/italian guy with the correct pronunciation in both laguages. Really enjoyed this. Thanks/grazie!
Loved the video, thanks very much!! Although I have never driven a 2000, I have been a long time owner of a 2400 Coupe. Indeed, the heavier car (cast-iron block with 180 hp instead of 160) makes it a slightly different animal. Bigger block, ZF dogleg gears, better dash (imho, gauges more centralized), different seats, all in all making this a true GT. Funnily enough also the Dino 246 always had slightly more hp than the other cars with the same engine, I believe 190 or 195 hp. I agree with your comments that Ferrari would not have it to deliver the same power as the other cars.
Which brings me to a little surprise!
If I am correct, the way that was envisaged to reach the right number of engines for homologation was a spread over 3 brands even. Ferrari with the Dino (which was not allowed to be called Ferrari, due to NOT being a 12 cylinder), Fiat but also Lancia!!!
You forgot to mention the famous Stratos - the rally champion of the 70's - which has the very same 2400 Engine. Eventually there were much more than 500 engines produced and on the road, I guess the choice for this engine was a bigger success than old Enzo could imagine. Even despite the fact that the Fiat was equally expensive as (or even more) a DB, E-type or 911.
But I enjoyed the massive grin 🙂
IMHO the most beautiful and elegant GT ever built!
Dont forget the Ford Osi
I see they have a low mileage 2400 dino coupe also. It would be interesting to see you review the two of them back to back. Amazing that they have two at the same time the same color w/ both motor options.
One of the most beautiful cars, just lovely!
The greatest Fiat ever, especially in coupe form. Stunning in a way the Ferrari Dino, for me, just isn't. And, muted or not, an Italian V6 knocks the socks off a V8 or V12 for sheer musicality. 43 years on, I still beat myself up over my failure to buy a coupe for £5000 when it was offered. Your best review yet!
Beautiful colour that really enhances its looks, in the “usual” red it looks like a Ferrari that it is not but the metallic blue is super.
I love these! If I had to choose, I would take the MkII with the larger engine, independent rear suspension and updated dashboard!
Jack, you are a very, very lucky man. WHAT a beauty this car is !
That surely must be one of the most beautiful looking cars of the 60's, the Fiat 130 you did recently also another great car, the 130 Coupe must be the best looking car of the 70's,great review by the way👍
You re really spoiling us Jack. I'm kinda doubting which looks better, Spider or Coupe. None of them for me alas, I only have X1/9 or 128-3P money!
Was that not an Ansa sticker I saw on the tailpipe? Apologies if I'm wrong but most old Italian cars end up with an Ansa as they are easier to come by than standard systems
Sounds fantastic, looks like a million dollars, have always lusted after it. Great video
What an epic vintage Italian car in mint condition! It sounds gloriously for a V6 (no comparison to modern vacuum cleaner-like turbocharged mills and/or overly flatulent exhausts).Thank you Jack for sharing with us your true love and passion for cars that still had/have soul in them. I find your shows as informative and interesting as to be viewed till the end, yet the greatest advantage is the contagious enthusiasm that spurts from each one of them.
Maybe the best video job I have ever seen in capturing the essence of the car, though I would have liked to have seen through the windshield as well when accelerating, and hear the car a little with the windows down. Great inside filming, best ever! The front window appears big, and looks like good headroom! This is somewhere in the top five of my favorite cars along with theJames Bond Austin Martin model, Austin Healy MK111, Jaguar XKE, and the 1974 Dino Ferrari.
Great review Jack, I've never seen you so happy..!
I love the sound of most engines, but old school V6 and Inline 6 engines really do sound almost spiritual
Another fantastic review Jack... really loved it. Now the engine is the jewel in this car and you're right that the whole project came about because of Ferrari needing to comply with F2 regulations at the time. The only problem was that of all the F2 engines of the 2.0 era, this was the worst... and by some margin. Through the 1970s, by far and away the best was the BMW M12/6 or M12/7. It cleaned up against the Ford BDG. 4-cylinder configuration appeared to be the way to go and when the homologation requirements were lifted in the mid 1970s and pure race engines were allowed, Brian Hart produced the Ford based 420 series which was very potent. Then Honda arrived with the V6 RA260E series in mid 1980 and together with the ground effect Ralt chassis dominated the class until it's eventual replacement with F3000.
Thanks chap, glad you enjoyed it!!
I saw one of these at a car event and it is an all round lovely looking car.
Thanks
Grazie Mario... ho solo adesso visto questo Superthanks.. molto apprezzato!
@@Number27 piacere mio. I tuoi video sono così ben fatti e strutturati che meritano! 👍👌
Your videos are great reminder for those who buy their cars only by looking for something that will be reliable, but in the end after 40 or 50 years when they look behind they will see all the bland cars they owned. But your videos show how important is to choose a car with some character, everything else about the reliability fades away. Also, reliability today is not a problem, also people get problems with those reliable brands as well, so hard to get some general rule with this. I would say, the life is too short to drive a boring car.
The Nardi wheel is not contemporary (too small, too thick). That apart, I always wanted that engine in my 124 spider (no idea whether it would fit inside). I remember when these cars were available at 15000€ in good shape, since no one wanted them. As time goes by.
one of the most beautiful designed cars ever made along side the open version LOVE FROM DENMARK
Retired mechanic here, I haven't worked on the Fiat Dino, but I did spend a lot of time under the bonnet of the Ferrari Dino. I think your timing chains are making more noise than they should
I really love your videos and the cars. Is it possible to tweak your graphic equalizer audio settings to improve the sound quality when you are talking at louder volumes?
3:40 Enzo also got his revenge on Ford
Buy one 😊. One of the best looking cars of all time.
Thanks Jack, what a lovely car. Sure I am biased as I have a history of Fiats. 125s, 124, and a few hot 131s and a 130. That car is unique. It is a Fiat and no rust! We had a kit to fix the steering wheel location. All Fiats handled and most were understeer with lift off oversteer. I only saw one Fiat Dino in Australia. But sadly Fiat like a few other manufacturers have lost their way.
hehehe. True about the rust. I guess the trick is that they were not built at FIAT. The coupes were built at Bertone and the spiders were built at Pininfarina. Similar to the Lancia Gamma coupes I had, which were also built at Pininfarina. Those cars usually are better build quality than many of the FIAT built cars.
Sounds good to me. I think this should be your replacement for the Ferrari. I prefer the coupe to the spider
Another car you could consider is the Maserati Merak. I think you'd be very positively surprised. And available in RHD.
I missed the most important videos… wow.
I AM IN LOVE WITH THE FIAT DINO COUPE! (Especially the 2400)
Damn this is such a great car 😍🇮🇹.
The looks, the sound
Damn I love it
Did some refinish work on one of these cars,, drove it on the Los Angeles freeways,, It likes top speed,,, and it is as solid as a rock, smooth ride....
Another great drive...and my first close up look at one of these. And from the fun you had, I can see this as a worthy replacement for Influenzo. Waiting to see what you do.
Absolutely glorious 🇮🇹❤️
Briefly had a green coupe when I was a kid. Sounded amazing. I saw a modded version years ago and fell in love. Remove the bumpers and it’s one of the most beautiful coupes ever!
What a lovely, balanced car! I have never seen one IRL, not sure they ever made it over to Canada. I am curious how much such a fine motor car would cost.
I have seen both the Coupe and the spyder in person in the States, so I am sure a few made it to Canada. Unfortunately many Fiat's died to keep the Ferrari 206 and 246s running. It was cheaper to buy one of the fiats and steal the engine out of it than to rebuild the V6.
As much as I love roadsters, I think the coupe is a much better looking design.
@@sailingspark9748 thanks for that report. This gives me hope I might come across one of these Fiats at a car show some day. It is sad when a fine car becomes a donor for something perceived as more worthy. I expect to burn in hell for my part in helping a friend sacrifice a Mk 1Lotus Cortina to put the engine in a Caterham Super 7 kit back in the 1970s.
Fiat Dino, the TOP OF THE POPS.
Just keep them coming🇮🇹🇮🇹
Thanks for reviewing. Looks outrageously cool, also the interior with the haptic instruments. Uncool are the noise and the lack of space.
That is not ...NOISE ,,,OK,,!!.......IT IS THE ENGINE AND CARBS IN ..........IN PERFECT ....HARMONY ....!!!!
That grill is one of my favorites after having a ‘72 Fiat 124 SC. Thoroughly enjoyed that car, but it was a crash magnet, five times and never my fault and even parked it got hit. It was a beautiful little sporty car.
Love the sound and shape!
Hey hey. Sounds pretty good ta me, dude!
I like the backstories on these cars.
I’d have one in a heartbeat, that engine noise!
There's a Holley carb conversion for it . Edd Chine on wheeler dealers did it , made hell of a difference.
Never seen you so happy driving a car!!
Get one!!
Needs an Ansa exhaust. 👍
I think it sounds fantastic!
Gorgeous car. I remember the Wheeler Dealer episode, from the early TV show series, where Mike Brewer bought one in Italy that had been sitting in a government/customs warehouse for decades and had very low mileage.
If you believe that was low mileage you don't know a lot about cars
What a great car I've always liked them right from when they were first introduced.
Don't know why you're complaining about that exhaust, it sounds gorgeous. Changing it would be a tragedy, it doesn't want to be any louder it would just attract unwanted attention.
I think the loss of son Dino, really hit old Enzo hard, possibly another reason he lost interest in road cars. This is one of my favourite cars of all time. Loved this video Jack💚🤍❤
Every time I see the video tile, I think it's an Isuzu 117 Coupe. I saw a few 117s in Japan and they share the same base design as the Fiat Dino (Giugiaro often used the exact same concept for many cars).
Fiat should make a Revival Model of this gorgeous and glorious car.
In my view, the nicest Car ever made. Fit for a King.
And the price was great. No need to sell the Crown's jewels...
Fiat is Chinese owned today
I love this era, with the tall greenhouse and airy interiors. Beautiful car - sure sounds good to me.
Simply stunning
VERY pretty and goes like the proverbial manure off a shovel....Lovely!
Great car,great video. When Fiat was one of the most important brands in the world,they were able to build these cars.Luxurious gran turismos,quality cars that were at the same level of Bmw or Mercedes. The Dino is a wonderful example of that era,elegant,noble and with an engine famous for its sound.The 2400 was even better than this,but this was the original and represents the original idea.After the Dino,they had the 130 coupè that inspired the Rolls Royce Camargue and was a fantastic example of quality and design. Fiat's catalogue in those years was full of beautiful sporty models for everybody: the 850 coupè and spider Bertone,the 124 coupè and spider Pininfarina,the Dino coupè Bertone and spider Pininfarina,and later the 128 Sport SL,the X1/9 Bertone and the 130 coupè Pininfarina....What a difference with nowadays!!
Very easy to see where Mazda got the inspiration for the body styling of the early 70s Capella coupe :)
Jack, I imported the 2400 Dino that Alex Jupe has for sale, happy to share info if you are considering. My 16 year old son rates this as the best sounding engine I've owned; i found it frantic, guttural, and thoroughly endearing, whilst turning me into a hooligan seeking out tunnels to explore all of the rev range...😮
Years ago, a friend owned a 246gt Dino fitted with a stebro exhaust. It was one of the best sounding engines I had heard at the time and sounded incredible even at start-up. Yet here in North America, the only gasoline powered anything (American Made) that sounds good with less than 8 cylinders are Harley Davidson Motorcycles.
a shame we lost Guy Croft a few years ago... he could work _magic_ on these engines
He wasn't expert in these v6 but in 4cyl twincam.
And he was a huge arsehole, zero communication skills
This man hated his customers