I don't know why, but when I was doing my Grand European Tour, I was passed on the road by several Fiat Dino Spiders. It must be that owners just couldn't bear to let these cars stand!
I love the Fiat Dino! The first spider I saw was Kevin McLeods at a Bristol Italian car festival about 4 years ago, that had a similar colour. The Fiat Dino I would want to own is the 2.4 litre Coupe.
Driven a few dinos about 15 years ago when they were £40k. Thought they were crap to be honest.. but a 512bb carburettor car .. yes give me one of those
I was also concerned when the rain came on, I could hear the car dissolving as you drove along🤣....those cars rust like no other, if this one lived in California that would be a clue to its survival, hopefully the British owner has gone through the car with a wax-oil lance because they didn't get any rustproofing at the factory.
You make some great, rational points and what a truly desirable classic this Fiat must be. However, the Ferrari wins hands down in the looks department.
The 2.0 engine has alloy heads and block, the 2.4 has alloy heads with a cast iron block. That would explain why the 2.0 is the more balanced car to drive.
I used to work at a dealership and am not impressed with either- I would only say the Fiat version was better because it had a longer lived second gear syncho....
But the Dino was so beautiful not that the Fiat wasn’t also gorgeous back in the 70s I got to set in the Dino that had got stuck in a ditch back when they were rather cheap the first Ferrari I had a chance to set in (it wasn’t even left locked)
I am so lucky: small feet, short legs and long arms; so I love old Italian cars. I've only driven a few miles in 246 Dinos but the ride definitely wasn't harsh. In fact by today's standards it would be considered too soft, especially with those big, squidgy 70 series XWXs! Dino's and other old Ferraris do need regular exercise though and it's common to find the bushings have broken down, seized, or both. A hard riding 246 has likely just not been regularly driven.
Nice video again, Jack! The Fiat Dinos ,both coupe (which I once owned) and Spider ,shared the same Gemmer steering box as the Fiat 125 Special ,130 and 132 models - Fiat was very good at utilising there own spares ! It produces a very smooth action in rotation of the wheel when compared to the rack and pinion set up , although heavy at parking speeds lightens up once on the move. Fiat suspension is very highly rated , although on paper not such a technical “ tour de force” as perhaps some Alfa Romeos, but should not be overlooked , as it produces good ride characteristics with good driving responses. Colour does certainly suit the car!
Whole front suspension and steering is off a 125/132 Installing two way gas shocks for Argenta makes a world of difference. I'm also pondering a 2.8 turns lock to lock power steering box from Argenta but it takes a bit of fiddling to fit a power steering pump, pulleys etc
I always loved the Fiat Dino convertible. Another triumph for Pininfarina! You should have mentioned there is also the Coupe styled by Bertone...a very different and rather plain looking car. Be that as it may, I have a friend with two "Ferrari" Dinos, and I find them to be brilliant driving machines, and as far as the looks, I think they are second only to the Miura. Great video. Thanks!
One interesting thing is that all of the development work on the 2L and 2.4L engines were done in the FIAT where the engine is placed longitudinally. When the same engine was placed in the Dino Ferrari transversely the fuel float bowls would now starve fuel on long left hand bends. This was only ever solved after Dino production ended with the Lancia Stratos (that used the same engine). The Stratos had different carbs and intake manifolds but sadly these cannot be fitted to a Ferrari Dino without either modifying the airbox or engine lid. The FIAT Spider is a lovely car and as a Ferrari Dino owner myself I can accept your praises for the FIAT variant. That said the Ferrari is just so achingly beautiful that it is difficult to choose the FIAT if there is only one garage space to fill.
One small detail, that car you refer to is not a Ferrari. It is a Dino 246 GT, but not a Ferrari. It was sold as a separate brand, and you will find no Ferrari emblems on it. The engine has FIAT cast into it.
@@pashakdescilly7517 The Dino 246GT was built on the Ferrari assembly line, Has a chassis ID plate with a prancing horse on it, and was sold through Ferrari dealerships. Even though the engine has FIAT cast into it the ID stamping is different for the 246GT. While I agree that it is not a pure Ferrari, referring to it as a Ferrari Dino 246GT is accepted terminology and in no way is an attempt to pass the car off as a Ferrari. It is funny because for years people put horse emblems on these cars to pass them off as Ferrari's and now it is the opposite as the Dino brand has more cache. Also 308 GT4 owners have recently jumped on the bandwagon with more people referring to their cars as Dino's whereas 10 years ago they would have all called them Ferrari's. I have both a 246 GT and a 308 GTB so I've heard it all before :)
@@pashakdescilly7517 The Stratos received IDF carburetors while the 246 used DCNF's. Totally different architecture and float setup. I have driven a 246GT with Stratos carbs and the difference is significant. I believe the Influenzo's misfire has been cured and it was down to an electrical problem cutting a bank of cylinders.
You can pick up a decent Fiat Dino Coupe for around £50k which seems remarkable value compared to the Ferrari. I have my eye on a 130 Coupe - more in my price range!
I remember when the 130 coupe came out. I was blown away by it then and still am. Late 60s and early 70s Fiat's were stunning. The little 850 convertible of that time was another gem I'd love to own.
More like sisters not cousins ! In actual fact they were all Dino’s !! Not Ferrari Dino ! It was intended to be a seperate Brand ! Ferrari was reserved for V12 engined Cars ! To my knowledge the 2400 Coupes were assembled at Marenello ! Bodies sent from Bertone , not sure if This incl the 2400 Spiders ?
A difficult choice. If I could choose any vintage Ferrari it would be the Dino. But the looks of this Spider also hold a special place in my heart. And the fact that it's not a Ferrari is an advantage in my book.
I always thought the FIATs were better cars than the Ferraris, not that I've ever driven one. It's almost as if FIAT felt they didn't have to try too hard. A bit like Bentley to Rolls Royce.
The coupe (Bertone) is nice too.....that's what the bad guys drove in The Italian Job....and my dad had one back in the day. Both a very under-valued and not properly appreciated car. But I'd prefer a proper 246 Dino
I've never heard or seen one of these things before, but the curves on the body, everything about it is fantastic, very individual looking too, engine sounds so nice, love to drive it round the lake district on a sunny day 👍
Another great video Jack and a good comparison with the 246. Remembering that Ferrari were selling their mighty V12 Daytona at the same time which both shared that unique interior design...
I find the front end design a bit of an acquired taste. The Bertone version (coupé) is prettier, as I think it's a perfect match of the boxier style with some elegant curves. Great to see this rare car though.
I admit that I prefer the coupè. Probably my favourite car ever produced in Italy. Which, really, means anywhere. That doesn't mean it's the best but it's my choice. I had an opportunity to buy one, a 2.4, years ago for £5000. I thought it was too much. What a twat!! Italian cars of the late 60s and early 70s, Italian styling was at its pinnacle.
You failed to mention the sublimely beautiful Fiat Dino coupe, a car that’s a sexy as, if not sexier than, the Alfa Montreal. Well, sexy anyway; the Montreal is hard to top.
The 206/246 were never, officially, badged as Ferraris. Back in the late seventies, a friend had an ally bodied 206 in right hand drive, apparently, they only ever made two and his was the sole survivor, he was only an ordinary mechanic and I don't think he knew what a rarity he had so he sold it for six grand!
Only thing that boils my piss, a Dino wearing Ferrari badges or that poncey prancing horse!. Someone must have a fragile ego to put the badges on what Enzo wanted to be a tribute to his son so, a DINO not a FERRARI. Putting the wrong badges on is like pissing on Dino's grave, shame on these sad people!!. The 206 / 246 Dino is much too beautiful to be a Ferrari.
@@kevinparker461 Enzo initially didn't want a car with less than 12 cylinders, but his top executives convinced him to do it as Porsche were doing well with their new 911 & Ferrari were in financial difficulty at the time (which was almost always all the time). His only concession; not to badge it as a Ferrari. Selling a car like this in high volumes & at a reasonably low price could be profitable. It turned out to be a top seller for Ferrari, with more than 4,000 made. Designed by Pininfarina, built by Scaglietti, engine & transmission by Fiat. It was something of a first for Ferrari; their first mid-engined road car, their first high volume seller & their first & only car with a cast iron engine block.
As the years go by some earlier Ferrari’s become far more valuable I owned several Ferrari’s that were not expensive in their day. But today you could buy Fort Knox with them...sadly I sold them years ago Berlinetta Boxer 512 as an example I also owned a Lamborghini Contach 5000s... Sold it for £30,000 Today that particular car is heading for the £ 500,000 mark. But who knew back then !
Calm down from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia and in California and New York too
Number 27, I would have to disagree with you. While Fiat Dino is a nice looking car, I would rather go with Ferrari Dino any day. The only thing I would change is adding a glass cover for the headlights like David Lee did with his Ferrari Dino. Anyhow, I will give you TWO THUMBS up for making this video, not for your opinion. One question... when you drive downhill and have to downshift, would you shift backwards from 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 to 1? Or would you put it in neutral and match shift to revving?
I remember seeing these in the for sale sections of UK car magazines in the 80's for 3-5k no one wanted them, mind you this is when a ferrari dino was 35k for a excellent example... should of bought a couple of each , ho hum such is life.... great video as usual cheers from New Zealand
Yes! That is absolutely the point of the brand - mystique. It is why Ferrari tried to launch Dino as its own separate marque and the advertising said "almost a Ferrari". No matter which car drives or looks better, or the fact that the 2.4 FIATs were built at Ferrari on a production line paid for by FIAT, or even that the engines that FIAT, Ferrari, Lancia Stratos shared were productionised by FIAT engineers - it is all about brand marketing.
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they even want to slow down all the gas pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. "Bundesabgasbespaßungsverbot" in German....(((((((
Fiat Dino’s are such good looking cars! I remember I first ever saw one on wheeler dealer in that same blue colour as the spider you’ve got there Jack and I thought wow I love that car! ……. Cracking video as always bud 👍
It’s all in the eye of the beholder but the Ferrari gets my vote, reminds me of a fair few years back when a friend against my advice ignored a Dino for 50k, and then an F40 for 300k, I remind him of those two mistakes often 😂
@@ClellBiggs LOL, Sean was the best to us old timers. Magnum pi also had his seat foam cut down because he was a giant. Toyota? Cool, my buddy had a 78 celica that would sprint pretty fast. It was awesome...
@@rossbrannigan3273 Nice! I bet old Sean Connery, the best 007, probably drove one. You wont see one of those round these parts, except in Dallas or Houstan by some rich boy collector. Id drive it just for the "oooh-ahhh" factor. Maint is probably expensive though.😎
Hey Jack, how about a 1970-ish Maserati Ghibli Spyder (not the coupe). It looks like the big brother of this one (which is a gorgeous car, BTW). I know there are a few in the UK, even though there are only 125 in existence. The other one I’d like to see is the Bora.
I have serviced FIAT Dino coupes and spiders, and Dino GTs and GTSs. They are all fabulous, and different, cars. My personal favorite is the Dino GT though.
Well sorry Monsieur but I disagree - like the gentleman Martin below I have owned the Fiat Dino Coupe ('67 2.0 litre) and yes, the Fiat Dino spider is nice but nothing touches Pininfarina's 206GT and 246GT. A different kettle of fish altogether.
@@mattbettany1174 Busso and this might be the exceptions to the V6 rule yeah. Then again on some VQs I like the burble they have but it's definitely rare to hear a well judged/set up one Different sort of sound altogether
I wonder. If you were inclined to modify a car, which would be a big if with this one, but let’s pretend, how much could you improve the driving position? I imagine getting the steering wheel closer would be a doddle. There must be people around making decent spacers. Pedals would be trickier, but… Hm. Funny, I always lean my foot against the centre console on the throttle, and just use my big toe really. If it was RHD and the clutch was cramped, I’d be in trouble. But LHD, it gives me a point of reference.
I personally like the Fiat Dino Coupe than the spider, but I must agree the Ferrari Dino definitely wins regarding aesthetics. I could spend the entire day staring at one ;)
I didn't realise for a long time, but it's almost exactly the same as the 365 Spider California (abelt a bit de-stetched) but with Aldo Brovarone's dino berlinetta speciale's front end.
My Uncle in Malaysia owned a right-hand-drive 246GTS for a good many years. It was in good working condition, if a little sweaty to travel in because of the Malaysian climate. In 1996, he decided to offer it for sale at the Malaysian equivalent of about 60 grand sterling. Nobody wanted it! Absolutely no one! It took him ages to find a buyer. Some time after it was finally sold, the values went stratospheric!!
Clever stuff, Jack. Making a serious point in your own style. Thanks for becoming a valuable voice.
Yes, yes, yes!!!! It’s usually the coupe that we see featured, the spider must be rarer than rocking horse poop. Beautiful, beautiful car!!
I don't know why, but when I was doing my Grand European Tour, I was passed on the road by several Fiat Dino Spiders. It must be that owners just couldn't bear to let these cars stand!
That is one stunningly gorgeous car. It doesn't hurt that I love drop-tops. What a treat it must have been to drive.
I just love the sound, I own a blue 2.4 l Coupé and would never ever sell it!
I love the Fiat Dino! The first spider I saw was Kevin McLeods at a Bristol Italian car festival about 4 years ago, that had a similar colour. The Fiat Dino I would want to own is the 2.4 litre Coupe.
Another Italian beauty! Looks fun to drive!
Driven a few dinos about 15 years ago when they were £40k. Thought they were crap to be honest.. but a 512bb carburettor car .. yes give me one of those
I was also concerned when the rain came on, I could hear the car dissolving as you drove along🤣....those cars rust like no other, if this one lived in California that would be a clue to its survival, hopefully the British owner has gone through the car with a wax-oil lance because they didn't get any rustproofing at the factory.
The Fiat would be all the buzz at a Ferrari social gathering.
Truly beautiful car and has a wonderful personality thank you for another surprise @
The one reason I’d have to give it to the Dino, is because I prefer mid engine sports cars.
You make some great, rational points and what a truly desirable classic this Fiat must be. However, the Ferrari wins hands down in the looks department.
I agree the Ferrari looks prettier!!
And the (bertone) Fiat Dino 2400 Coupe too
A gorgeous car in a lovely colour 👌
Pininfarina is a design house, Sergio Pininfarina was not the designer, Filippo Sapino at Pininfarina was.
What a beauty! 👍
Bet that was hard to give back ☺️
Great report most interesting and a lovely car.
I loved driving the Fiat Dino.
A real pity we never got to see the engine bay
Thanks Jack, a great car to be out in!
Wow, what a beauty.
Very nice video "Merci"
The 2.0 engine has alloy heads and block, the 2.4 has alloy heads with a cast iron block. That would explain why the 2.0 is the more balanced car to drive.
2.0 does have a live rear axle (Fiat 125) tho, as to the independent (Fiat 130) axle in the 2400. So handlingwise the 2400 still came out on top
@@pereldh5741 I would happily own either models of the Fiat Dino. I did have a ride in one owned by Mal Nicholson of Trentside Classics.
I used to work at a dealership and am not impressed with either- I would only say the Fiat version was better because it had a longer lived second gear syncho....
9:33 - As they say, what a noise !!
But the Dino was so beautiful not that the Fiat wasn’t also gorgeous back in the 70s I got to set in the Dino that had got stuck in a ditch back when they were rather cheap the first Ferrari I had a chance to set in (it wasn’t even left locked)
Amazing one.💚🤍❤️
Yeah, the Fiat Dino may be a better daily driver, but I'd park a Rosso Corsa 246GT in my living room just to look at it.
I am so lucky: small feet, short legs and long arms; so I love old Italian cars. I've only driven a few miles in 246 Dinos but the ride definitely wasn't harsh. In fact by today's standards it would be considered too soft, especially with those big, squidgy 70 series XWXs! Dino's and other old Ferraris do need regular exercise though and it's common to find the bushings have broken down, seized, or both. A hard riding 246 has likely just not been regularly driven.
Nice video again, Jack! The Fiat Dinos ,both coupe (which I once owned) and Spider ,shared the same Gemmer steering box as the Fiat 125 Special ,130 and 132 models - Fiat was very good at utilising there own spares ! It produces a very smooth action in rotation of the wheel when compared to the rack and pinion set up , although heavy at parking speeds lightens up once on the move. Fiat suspension is very highly rated , although on paper not such a technical “ tour de force” as perhaps some Alfa Romeos, but should not be overlooked , as it produces good ride characteristics with good driving responses. Colour does certainly suit the car!
Same wheels too! 😁
Whole front suspension and steering is off a 125/132
Installing two way gas shocks for Argenta makes a world of difference.
I'm also pondering a 2.8 turns lock to lock power steering box from Argenta but it takes a bit of fiddling to fit a power steering pump, pulleys etc
I always loved the Fiat Dino convertible. Another triumph for Pininfarina! You should have mentioned there is also the Coupe styled by Bertone...a very different and rather plain looking car. Be that as it may, I have a friend with two "Ferrari" Dinos, and I find them to be brilliant driving machines, and as far as the looks, I think they are second only to the Miura.
Great video. Thanks!
One interesting thing is that all of the development work on the 2L and 2.4L engines were done in the FIAT where the engine is placed longitudinally. When the same engine was placed in the Dino Ferrari transversely the fuel float bowls would now starve fuel on long left hand bends. This was only ever solved after Dino production ended with the Lancia Stratos (that used the same engine). The Stratos had different carbs and intake manifolds but sadly these cannot be fitted to a Ferrari Dino without either modifying the airbox or engine lid.
The FIAT Spider is a lovely car and as a Ferrari Dino owner myself I can accept your praises for the FIAT variant. That said the Ferrari is just so achingly beautiful that it is difficult to choose the FIAT if there is only one garage space to fill.
One small detail, that car you refer to is not a Ferrari. It is a Dino 246 GT, but not a Ferrari. It was sold as a separate brand, and you will find no Ferrari emblems on it. The engine has FIAT cast into it.
Didn’t know this. Even after two coupes and now a Spider. Agreed on the 246/Spider choice though.
Can you explain what difference in the Stratos carburetion solves the problem? There might also be a parallel with the InfluEnzo's carburetion saga.
@@pashakdescilly7517 The Dino 246GT was built on the Ferrari assembly line, Has a chassis ID plate with a prancing horse on it, and was sold through Ferrari dealerships. Even though the engine has FIAT cast into it the ID stamping is different for the 246GT. While I agree that it is not a pure Ferrari, referring to it as a Ferrari Dino 246GT is accepted terminology and in no way is an attempt to pass the car off as a Ferrari. It is funny because for years people put horse emblems on these cars to pass them off as Ferrari's and now it is the opposite as the Dino brand has more cache. Also 308 GT4 owners have recently jumped on the bandwagon with more people referring to their cars as Dino's whereas 10 years ago they would have all called them Ferrari's. I have both a 246 GT and a 308 GTB so I've heard it all before :)
@@pashakdescilly7517 The Stratos received IDF carburetors while the 246 used DCNF's. Totally different architecture and float setup. I have driven a 246GT with Stratos carbs and the difference is significant. I believe the Influenzo's misfire has been cured and it was down to an electrical problem cutting a bank of cylinders.
great yarn, but have to say I much prefer the Fiat Coupe, rather than the spider.
That Fiat Dino still looks stylish! I’d have one like a shot.
You can pick up a decent Fiat Dino Coupe for around £50k which seems remarkable value compared to the Ferrari. I have my eye on a 130 Coupe - more in my price range!
I remember when the 130 coupe came out. I was blown away by it then and still am. Late 60s and early 70s Fiat's were stunning. The little 850 convertible of that time was another gem I'd love to own.
Not close for me. The FIAT all the way unless I’m just parking it in the driveway to make my neighbors jealous.
More like sisters not cousins ! In actual fact they were all Dino’s !! Not Ferrari Dino ! It was intended to be a seperate Brand ! Ferrari was reserved for V12 engined Cars ! To my knowledge the 2400 Coupes were assembled at Marenello ! Bodies sent from Bertone , not sure if This incl the 2400 Spiders ?
Jack, interesting video, thanks for bringing this to us!
Loved the color. But once you said silver...
Lovely car, but IMO no comparison to a 206/246. The Dino is arguably the most beautiful road car ever made.
The 246 & The Jaguar E-type vie for top spot in my personal perspective.
@@markallen2984 exactly
A difficult choice. If I could choose any vintage Ferrari it would be the Dino. But the looks of this Spider also hold a special place in my heart. And the fact that it's not a Ferrari is an advantage in my book.
That’s a big call, there’s the 250gto however the jag etype and Lamborghini Miura are up there.
@@iamthebroker agreed. I think we all have taste. My top 4 for sure.
I always thought the FIATs were better cars than the Ferraris, not that I've ever driven one. It's almost as if FIAT felt they didn't have to try too hard. A bit like Bentley to Rolls Royce.
The coupe (Bertone) is nice too.....that's what the bad guys drove in The Italian Job....and my dad had one back in the day.
Both a very under-valued and not properly appreciated car. But I'd prefer a proper 246 Dino
I've never heard or seen one of these things before, but the curves on the body, everything about it is fantastic, very individual looking too, engine sounds so nice, love to drive it round the lake district on a sunny day 👍
Thanks for watching Simon!!
How absolutely lovely! And for the 1st time in the history of RUclips Dino-clips, all the facts are correct!
Another great video Jack and a good comparison with the 246. Remembering that Ferrari were selling their mighty V12 Daytona at the same time which both shared that unique interior design...
The Fiat coupe and spider are much prettier cars than the Ferrari Dino 😊
I find the front end design a bit of an acquired taste. The Bertone version (coupé) is prettier, as I think it's a perfect match of the boxier style with some elegant curves. Great to see this rare car though.
I admit that I prefer the coupè. Probably my favourite car ever produced in Italy. Which, really, means anywhere. That doesn't mean it's the best but it's my choice. I had an opportunity to buy one, a 2.4, years ago for £5000. I thought it was too much. What a twat!! Italian cars of the late 60s and early 70s, Italian styling was at its pinnacle.
You failed to mention the sublimely beautiful Fiat Dino coupe, a car that’s a sexy as, if not sexier than, the Alfa Montreal. Well, sexy anyway; the Montreal is hard to top.
Awesome car. Love that blue. However it is only better if your smoking bujj.
Jack it looks absolutely beautiful you would think it was a Ferrari it's design is far better especially for the year it was made
The 206/246 were never, officially, badged as Ferraris. Back in the late seventies, a friend had an ally bodied 206 in right hand drive, apparently, they only ever made two and his was the sole survivor, he was only an ordinary mechanic and I don't think he knew what a rarity he had so he sold it for six grand!
Only thing that boils my piss, a Dino wearing Ferrari badges or that poncey prancing horse!. Someone must have a fragile ego to put the badges on what Enzo wanted to be a tribute to his son so, a DINO not a FERRARI. Putting the wrong badges on is like pissing on Dino's grave, shame on these sad people!!. The 206 / 246 Dino is much too beautiful to be a Ferrari.
Ahhhhhh! If only there was a time machine!
@@kevinparker461 Enzo initially didn't want a car with less than 12 cylinders, but his top executives convinced him to do it as Porsche were doing well with their new 911 & Ferrari were in financial difficulty at the time (which was almost always all the time). His only concession; not to badge it as a Ferrari. Selling a car like this in high volumes & at a reasonably low price could be profitable. It turned out to be a top seller for Ferrari, with more than 4,000 made. Designed by Pininfarina, built by Scaglietti, engine & transmission by Fiat. It was something of a first for Ferrari; their first mid-engined road car, their first high volume seller & their first & only car with a cast iron engine block.
I’ve been told that any Ferrari built Dino that was badged Ferrari was badged post manufacture. Beautiful cars.
A very Alfa Romeo driving position, shift lever is also reminiscent of an Alfa.
It definitely has Fiat finishes of that era. It reminds me of the 124 spider.
Gawd, what a beautiful machine! Thanks Jack. 👍
As the years go by some earlier Ferrari’s become far more valuable I owned several Ferrari’s that were not expensive in their day. But today you could buy Fort Knox with them...sadly I sold them years ago Berlinetta Boxer 512 as an example I also owned a Lamborghini Contach 5000s... Sold it for £30,000 Today that particular car is heading for the £ 500,000 mark. But who knew back then !
Calm down from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned
from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia and in California and New York too
One of our all time favourites at the sporting fiats club!
The Ferrari Dino 246 GTS keeps me up at night.
This was a Corvette C3 copy in design
Number 27, I would have to disagree with you. While Fiat Dino is a nice looking car, I would rather go with Ferrari Dino any day. The only thing I would change is adding a glass cover for the headlights like David Lee did with his Ferrari Dino.
Anyhow, I will give you TWO THUMBS up for making this video, not for your opinion.
One question... when you drive downhill and have to downshift, would you shift backwards from 5 to 4 to 3 to 2 to 1? Or would you put it in neutral and match shift to revving?
I agree, both the Fiat Dino Spider, and coupe are prettier than the Ferrari
I remember seeing these in the for sale sections of UK car magazines in the 80's for 3-5k no one wanted them, mind you this is when a ferrari dino was 35k for a excellent example... should of bought a couple of each , ho hum such is life.... great video as usual cheers from New Zealand
The engine sounds great. Not sure if I like the headlight placement, but it's got nice curves in other areas.
"Pretty car..."
Very nice, but I’d rather have a Stratos! 😝
Great video, I really enjoyed it! Only thing we miss is those pajamas. Those were a bit iconic, to be honest.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The headrests are missing, sure hope they weren't thrown out.
Sorry, I’m not convinced. No FIAT comes close to the mystique of the Ferrari brand (maybe a 130 coupe!)
Yes! That is absolutely the point of the brand - mystique. It is why Ferrari tried to launch Dino as its own separate marque and the advertising said "almost a Ferrari". No matter which car drives or looks better, or the fact that the 2.4 FIATs were built at Ferrari on a production line paid for by FIAT, or even that the engines that FIAT, Ferrari, Lancia Stratos shared were productionised by FIAT engineers - it is all about brand marketing.
My dad has a 246gts He used to let me drive it when I was 17 and learning to drive with him as a passenger, crazy really love that car
Sadly from 2030 on all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-( In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they even want to slow down all the gas pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime. "Bundesabgasbespaßungsverbot" in German....(((((((
That's sad, where did you get this information from?
@@nigelknight6003 BABVVO, TEBBVO laws in Germany and HESCHLAVVO and ÖSCHLABVVO laws in Switzerland and Austria
9:33 I think I just got a new favorite engine sound. Man alive, that sound sweet!!!!
Fiat Dino’s are such good looking cars! I remember I first ever saw one on wheeler dealer in that same blue colour as the spider you’ve got there Jack and I thought wow I love that car! ……. Cracking video as always bud 👍
Thank you chap!!
It was my old coupe used on the intro of that episode. I have a black Dino Spider now.
@@prileydrums How cool is that! I’m pretty sure Mike bought a blue one? He traveled to France or Italy to buy it if I remember correctly 🧐
@@ryanmccormick2150 yep, they bought a blue coupe in Italy. They wanted to feature a well sorted example and used mine, now sadly long gone.
What a great looking car,lovely colour too.
Who wouldn't love the little fiat underdog? First car I ever drove was a 127 900cc
Father of the Yugo
Yes, this was it what I always want to have when I owned my two 124 spiders. Lovely.
Can see where Toyota 2000 & Nissan Z got some of their inspiration.
Thank you for showcasing this car.
Fiat is beautiful. Dino is just attractive.
Another lovely Italian work of art. And this one with a great story, as well. Thanks.
Ferarri is so arrogant. That’s why Lamborghini, Fiat, Maserati, and Alfa Romeo are better driver’s cars
I saw one down in Hampshire at AJM
It's a Dino build at Ferrari, it's NOT a Ferrari Dino! So stop calling it a Ferrari!
It’s a Ferrari, designed by Ferrari with a Ferrari Engine and built by Ferrari.
Nice car, good purchase. The blue look almost like a 70's z-28 color, its pretty nice Congrats!🤠
I remember seeing these cars when on holiday in Spain, 1970’s, they looked fabulous then and they still do now😍
Always loved these since a kid...
well trained Professional car salesman
A very pretty convertible Jack, Fiat have built, in the past, some very beautiful cars.
It’s all in the eye of the beholder but the Ferrari gets my vote, reminds me of a fair few years back when a friend against my advice ignored a Dino for 50k, and then an F40 for 300k, I remind him of those two mistakes often 😂
Never seen one, looks like a car on James Bond 007, Sean Connery was the best.
That was a Toyota 2000GT that had the the top cut off so Connery could fit in it. lol
@@ClellBiggs LOL, Sean was the best to us old timers. Magnum pi also had his seat foam cut down because he was a giant. Toyota? Cool, my buddy had a 78 celica that would sprint pretty fast. It was awesome...
there was a Fiat Dino Spider in James Bond On Her Majesty's Service
@@rossbrannigan3273 Nice! I bet old Sean Connery, the best 007, probably drove one. You wont see one of those round these parts, except in Dallas or Houstan by some rich boy collector. Id drive it just for the "oooh-ahhh" factor. Maint is probably expensive though.😎
Dream car!!!! Some day….soon!!!
Hey Jack, how about a 1970-ish Maserati Ghibli Spyder (not the coupe). It looks like the big brother of this one (which is a gorgeous car, BTW). I know there are a few in the UK, even though there are only 125 in existence.
The other one I’d like to see is the Bora.
I have serviced FIAT Dino coupes and spiders, and Dino GTs and GTSs. They are all fabulous, and different, cars.
My personal favorite is the Dino GT though.
Well sorry Monsieur but I disagree - like the gentleman Martin below I have owned the Fiat Dino Coupe ('67 2.0 litre) and yes, the Fiat Dino spider is nice but nothing touches Pininfarina's 206GT and 246GT. A different kettle of fish altogether.
With this V6 sounding so good it makes me wonder why other V6s don't sound nearly as good as this.
I’d actually say a Busso does, if not better
@@mattbettany1174 Busso and this might be the exceptions to the V6 rule yeah.
Then again on some VQs I like the burble they have but it's definitely rare to hear a well judged/set up one
Different sort of sound altogether
I wonder. If you were inclined to modify a car, which would be a big if with this one, but let’s pretend, how much could you improve the driving position? I imagine getting the steering wheel closer would be a doddle. There must be people around making decent spacers. Pedals would be trickier, but… Hm.
Funny, I always lean my foot against the centre console on the throttle, and just use my big toe really. If it was RHD and the clutch was cramped, I’d be in trouble. But LHD, it gives me a point of reference.
Lovely car 🇮🇹❤️
The Fiat Dino is a great looking but aethsestically the 246 wins hands down, all in my very humble opinion, of course. Excellent video as always.
I personally like the Fiat Dino Coupe than the spider, but I must agree the Ferrari Dino definitely wins regarding aesthetics. I could spend the entire day staring at one ;)
@@germanguywithjumpercables7955 so could I :)!
Nice piece of history
What a great video, we loved the story , thank you Jack. 👍🏼
I didn't realise for a long time, but it's almost exactly the same as the 365 Spider California (abelt a bit de-stetched) but with Aldo Brovarone's dino berlinetta speciale's front end.
My Uncle in Malaysia owned a right-hand-drive 246GTS for a good many years. It was in good working condition, if a little sweaty to travel in because of the Malaysian climate. In 1996, he decided to offer it for sale at the Malaysian equivalent of about 60 grand sterling. Nobody wanted it! Absolutely no one! It took him ages to find a buyer. Some time after it was finally sold, the values went stratospheric!!