Okay I've had my Carrera T for 48 hours now. Great car, but 2 things I hate: stock audio system is GARBAGE and rear camera is terrible. Both of those things seem like a slap in the face for how much money you're paying. But otherwise, the car is damn good
I bought a 991.2 T (ordered new) when a lot of folks were bashing it. Once they realized what it was, they shut up. That legacy has carried the 992T sales forward, but at the price, it's hard to justify. I jumped to the 992 GTS since it wasn't much more and gets you so much more (wheels, brakes, power, springs, sport design, etc.). Nice T and congrats.
Agreed, sport design is a must for the 992, the base bumper 🤢. I love my 991.2 T, was just over $100k, and a tune really woke the motor up (same for 992, absolute must do).
@Westcoastrocksduh I mean, having another second before becoming a felon won't change much. ;) I would have gone with the T again if the price difference was a lot more than it really is. Once you add the options up, the T really gets very close to the GTS. Most of the reasons are not because of the extra power but the extra items you get (bumpers, brakes, etc.). I also wondered if the GTS would be too much power but I drove one at PEC and felt it was totally fine. Under normal driving you'll feel the torque more than anything else, and to me that makes a huge difference. The T is totally more than one would need under normal driving, but so is a GTI. Whenever I hear someone say 'It's all you need', I think to myself 'Why am I paying in excess of 100K for 'all I need'?' I want a bit more. ;) lol
Congrats on your new T. I also just got one and the best thing I've done so far was a stage two tune. It totally transforms the experience and that muted exhaust note you mentioned is now much deeper without being overwhelming. With the valves closed it sounds stock. I went with the M-engineering stage 2 remap, valved soul performance exhaust, soul 200 cell link pipes and a CSF intercooler, BMC air filer and DO88 inlets & pressure hoses. The car is now pushing about 540hp at the crank and to me it feels like this is how it was meant to be from the factory. I would highly recommend this set up to anyone who is considering doing mods. Flat 6 Motorsport in Orlando did the work and they did an amazing job. They made a video of how the car drives and sounds so if anyone is curious check it out. Again, congrats on your new T, the spec is awesome. Cheers!
I guess that would depend on what breaks and why, but personally I didn't buy the car to protect the warranty or resale value. Fun factor is my priority and so far it's been worth every penny. I'm also told this platform can take a lot more than 540 hp at the crank.@@berponteberponte3231
I love my 991.2 T. I’ll never sell it, but my love went up another level with my Sharkwerks exhaust and tune. It’s my perfect car. Baby seat in the back. Manual. Reliable. Keeps up with GT3s at the track. Roof racks make it my truck. Room to grow with GTS turbos whenever mine explode. And only lowly Carrera parts if anything else is to break :)
Awesome car, awesome vid. No surprise about you bonding instantly with the car. Having the good fortune to purchase a car brand new from a dealership is an experience in and of itself; but getting to spec a special order car, and having it roll out of that delivery truck exactly the way you wanted is on a whole other level. Now that the car exists, no matter how long you own it, no matter how many miles you put on it, no matter how many times it trades hands in the future; That car will always be the car that you “built”; and your name will always be the one on that first stamp in the owners manual.
I would definitely have gone with the T lightweight ethos altogether, slick top/carbon, carbon buckets, no rear wheel steering etc. Keep it as lightweight as possible 😀
Going for this more luxury vers. Was no better to go for the GTS? Dashboard without the leather opt. Is it really that terrible? Color I between this shark bleu and the metallic one any regret? I wanted the ext. Design pack but the original looks much better than in the configuration tool. Nose loft no regrets? Thanks for your content ! Note on the last coment, carbon roof, carbon seats are like 20/25kg difference from the Alum. Roof and sport seats...for over 10k... not sure it worth it honnestly. For the same price you can get a GT4 RS. Happy new year guys.
It’s not that the base 992 doesn’t have enough power, but that the rest of the car is so overbuilt/overengineered that it makes the driving experience feel a bit soulless/dead. Most of the issues I have with the base 992 are solved with the gts/turbo/gt3, but then (as you said) you can’t really fully utilize them on public roads.
I’m out of break in and have been for awhile. This car pulls plenty hard above 5,000 and once you find the rhythm on backroads between shift points, steering inputs and braking it’s a hoot. Very engaging and definitely worth owning.
@@Rennthusiast maybe I was a bit harsh, but compared to something like an Emira (or even a c8) it’s not the same level of enthralling (to me). It’s all personal preference at the end of the day.
I haven’t been blessed to drive an air-cooled 911. So I was happy when you liked and enjoyed your new 992. When I watch most of the videos or read articles about 911, I feel that my 992 is not a 911 rather something else that was made by Porsche. BTW, I like that you spec’d the car the way you liked and didn’t listen to what most people say “if you want to add options, you’d better get 992 S”. Congratulations, and I’ll be waiting for your video on similarities between air-cooled and the 992 T 911s.
Glad you are enjoying the new car. The 992 is really amazing. Regarding allocation, when I pulled the trigger from my 992 Turbo S, I got a 23 allocation immediately, but waited a month for the 24's for a specific option I wanted, No games, no ADM. That has been my experience with all three Porsche I have brought from them starting with my 993, but really depend on the dealer. I tried to by my Taycan at a new dealer in my local town and was a waste of time, 9 mo to be exact. BTW - I find that if I pop the sun roof vent it really helps with the buffeting, but also keeping both open an even amount helps and really wish there was a mode sync them when you crack them.
I'm for the time being financially not in a position to even fill the gas tank of 992 911 T but I can see myself in one once the circumstances improve. The philosophy of this model is really in accordance with my soul. Excellent and hones review, thank you.
Very good review! I had to add this additional comment because you did address things that others hadn’t. You put the passion back in purchasing a passionate vehicle!
Great video, thanks. So Wife and I went to the Dealer South of Boston to shop a 911T for her (I'm an aircooled guy-993). Long story short; prices start at 10% over sticker, ~6 mos wait and unsure if she can order the Paint to Sample(Irish Green) because Porsche is pretty much at capacity..... Glad for Porsche, but the PTS is really frustrating her. Can grimace and bear the rest...yeah, 1st world problems. Enjoy your car!
What is the deal with PTS only being available on the GT and Special models? The PTS catalog was how I initially got my wife interested in my Porsche pursuit. She _LOVED_ building different specs and models. Unfortunately, the Porsche (US) website seems to be temporarily inoperable at times. At least on my end. Specifically, the 'New & Used Inventory' option continually gives me a 403 ERROR, regardless of the model. On numerous occasions the 'Build Your Porsche' page simply would not function properly for several days on end. They say misery loves company. Well, we feel that same frustration brother. Stay classy my friend.
Well...we watched this video a few more times, had a long talk over a few days away and just put a deposit on a Ruby Stone Red 911t...work hard, enjoy the results! Thanks again for this clip. @@BertShackleford
Congrats! Lovely spec! I bought a used 991.2 T a few years back for just over $100k. It’s one of the few with LWBS, and now with a tune it really gives an exhilarating driving experience. I’ll admit that after having the privilege to spec a Taycan 4S from the factory, it’s tempting to get a 992 T just the way I want, but the price point is so much higher now.
Enjoyed the perspective. I've had my 992 Carrera for 8 months now, spec'd from the factory. I too am very glad I didn't hold back checking options. These cars really are $150k GT cars that have been de-contented to allow a lower entry price, they don't feel right with rubber dash boards or corolla-level stereos. You gotta spec them up to the price point they sell at. Now I had the opposite opinion in my GT4, as a hard core track car it felt fine with almost no options. The one issue you didn't discuss about RAS is the whole lithium battery issue, they have an issue where they die and they cost a fortune to replace.
I am spooked about the Lithium battery. It is true that without RAS you don't have a lithium, just if you choose the RAS you are stuck with the Lithium battery.
Congrats on your T. Great color. I have a 992 T which I picked up at PEC-ATL. I heard about the buffetting issue beforehand on Rennlist and got the windblocks like you did before took delivery. I've had no whistling, interestingly enough. Love the manual and no RAS, but in no way I was able to compare with one that did have RAS, so nothing for me to miss, I love it as is. I have a basic spec (no RAS, no 18-ways, no sunroof), but a few options that I needed (folding mirrors, heated steering wheel), shark blue seat belts and gentian blue interior accents (aka my exterior color) in lieu of piano black. Porsche Tysons was able to do my order MSRP for me and it worked out faster than expected. 2500 miles now in 2.5 months (1000 the first week drivng from ATL to DC via Tail of the Dragon, etc).
My thoughts when specing my T were similar to yours. No RAS (although I had been in a dilemma for weeks, but went for the more raw and predictable steering), no sunroof (in want the car to feel as stiff and sporty as possible, and in my opinion, a sun roof takes away that feeling a bit), no 18way seats, but I did opt for PDK (although a manual is awesome, I'm all about that race car game feeling of the PDK), race tex / alcantara all the way wherever possible (wheel, roof etc.), and I did opt for the rear seats as I have kids to sometimes fit in the back ;) But no matter how you spec it... you can't go wrong.
Congratulations on your purchase. You own my dream car. I can't afford one but I own my second favorite car, a Mustang GT, and I know exactly what you mean about that instant connection. The car found me and I was hooked the moment I saw it and sat in it. Enjoy your beautiful Porsche.
Love your balanced review style. Interestingly enough I went in the opposite direction you did. I sold a 991.2 Carrera T when I got an allocation for 718 GT4. Both are great cars.
The Carrera T dosen't really make sense to a lot of people - its basically a run out parts bin model, they used to do this with the Carrera "black". I know several people that bought the T and regretted it fairly quickly - they work out instantaneously its not a budget GT3 as some try to claim, equally its not particularly good round a track particularly if it doesn't have RAS. Overall and in general, the 992 isn't that well liked - its not small and the interior, although well made, is very german taxi cab black and could have come from any mid-range german car. I have owned 20+ Porsche sports cars and the 992 series is the first that hasn't really interested me - in fact I gave up a 992 GT3 RS slot for a 296 GTB.
@@VK6AB-Really enjoyed your comment and from what I’ve heard…you are pretty much spot on. As someone who is about to get my 3rd Porsche, I’d like to ask you a question. I’m interested in getting “weekend car” if you know what I mean and live in New Zealand (the South Island) and I’m torn between a 2024 Cayman GTS, a Boxter GTS or the base 911. Which of the 4 would you recommend and why? Appreciate your time and wishing you a wonderful Happy New Year
@@EleanorJiang Cayman GTS 4.0L NA - with the GTS interior package and PDK plus sun visors in race tex. Its a very fine car, in fact its an outstanding car - also there is a large range of colours at no additional cost plus some PTS like colours for about 4k.
I live in Florida. I drive with the windows down and sunroof open every drive. Even in the oppressive heat of the summer, and the 40 degree mornings like my glorious drive yesterday, the windows are always down. Not a daily, so it's a bit easier, but still. I need those flat six noises with the windows down! I think the T would suit me perfectly. I love everything about it, but I don't think I could handle any of the 992 generation wind buffeting issues. I really hope this is an issue the 992.2 solves. The idea my "lowly" 996 glides through the air without a whistle or rattle while a brand new 150k 992 buffets and squeals is genuinely shocking to me. As always, I appreciate your earnest quest to bring honesty and balance to your videos. It's greatly appreciated, and it almost feels a bit criminal you haven't cracked the six figure subscriber count.
Agreed… spec your T the way that you see fit. I am in the less is more camp for a T and that is how I spec’ed my build. If I could have acquired a C2S allocation then my build would have been $156k. I personally could not see spec’ing my T near that at $150k+.
I agree with you, I came from a 991.2 T and picked up my 992 T about 6 months ago. Excellent all around car, however if a GT3 Touring allocation comes along I will rush to hand the dealer my keys :)
Honestely, great review and great spec! Congrats on this masterpiece of a car! RAS, in the end, comes down to a matter of taste. You spec it or you don't - the experience of driving the car will be both equally exceptional. After weeks of dilemma, I ended up not opting for RAS, simply because I wanted a more natural, raw and authentic steering feel for the car. However, I did test drive a 992 GTS with RAS and I loved how nimble it felt, but also a bit too agitated and sometimes lacking the plantedness (that even a word? haha) of how I love a 911 to feel. But I might go with RAS for any other future 911. As I'm a PDK lover all the way, I went with PDK on my T. For some this may be sacrilege not opting for stick in the T, but I just love the way it makes me feel like I'm in a race car game in real life. Again, congrats!!
Will, would love to see a video on how you insure all of your cars. What companies, what are the rates, what have you learned about the best way to insure these cars, etc. Thanks a lot! -Tom
I use Grundy and have a regular collector policy. Rates aren’t exactly great but I have a less-than-ideal driving record. My daily driver (F-150) is with Philadelphia and they devastate me on rates.
Some of the “luxury” options you added do actually elevate the experience. But there is one I definitely don’t agree with. That would be the 18-ways. They obviously have an enormous number of motors and mechanisms inside that add quite a lot of weight, which goes against the philosophy of the T. Ideally, the seat option to go with is the full bucket seats, but if this is a DD and the FBS are a bit too extreme, the 4-ways are a great alternative and won’t add too much weight over the FBS. Secondary to that if I was to really nitpick would be the retractable roof, which adds what, like 20-30 lbs, and in the worst spot, which is the highest part of the car. Other than that, you really nailed this build. I love that there is almost no visible plastic. You even got leather on the steering column. Big ups to that.
I traded in my 992 C2S Manual 2 years ago. It was a very compliant and capable sporty car. Very similar to your T. Also similar to a 2023 C8 Corvette I owned. However, it’s not the visceral experience you get in a street legal race car. In my subjective opinion a Sports Car and a Sporty looking Car are 2 different animals. Buy what you enjoy driving - I appreciate your perspective on the differences between all your current and previously enjoyed Porsche works of Art. Merry Christmas 🎄 to all.
It’s a 911 They’re all good I always buy the cheapest one because every time I flip it the next one is just a little better and more than enough for a 70 year old
Yeah building your own is the way to go, it makes it yours, and makes it special. Plus the used market isn't even that much cheaper. Getting one that fast is pretty awesome. Many, if not most, are getting the base 911, T, and S at MSRP, that's not that special now.
I ordered RAS on my 2024 992 GTS, and also saw a handful of Nayayers on the reader boards after spec locked. Started to question my choice. Thanks for the thumbs up on RAS. Car due next week, so going to find out myself. Shark Blue as well. Enjoy your T. You have great taste in air and water cooled hardware...
T is for touring but many people associate it with lightness because of the history of the T spec. However, having a glass roof adds so much weight (?) that the sum of tiny weight losses elsewhere is probably negated. If you have 1500 kg car you will not notice 15 kg difference ( d/D = 1%) in road drive. If you are a sensitive driver you might notice about 5% difference. Of course driving at the margin at a race track and a lap time might tell it sooner but then you have to be already very very very fast driver. The buffeting - have you tried having the windows open differently between left and right. Many cars get at resonation speed buffeting one window open which then vanishes if you open the other window just a little. The other window needs to act like a damper, just like bleeding. I have 996 and if I remember correctly the windows need to be open differently at certain speeds. I rarely have the windows open - living in not that warm country. The buffeting is not only about the inside volume and the hole like Helmholz resonator but also about the von Kharmann wake buffeting which is down to the overall shape of the car and the Reynolds number ( a non dimensional scale number representing the inertial and viscous forces ratio in flow). As a phenomenom wake buffeting is related to the screws you sometimes see around high industrial chimneys. Sometimes if you shoot with a tripod when windy you will find the tripod starts to vibrate at certain wind speeds if it has round legs and center pillar. Then you take off your coat and wrap it around the tripod and it vanishes. You can also try rope or somekinda net around the tubes - bit like the golf ball, you try to manipulate the wake formation. What I would like to know is how do you find the size of the car compared to anything before 991. And also overall sensation between the older models and the 992. One point of view is that e.g. I dont like when the car makes the decisions. I even hate the comfy turn signals. I want to decide how many blinks I message. I dont want Porsche’s of Bosch’ engineers to decide it for me. Like I said, I “only” have a 996 but the deep gratitude you experience when driving or even looking at the car is amazing. Sometimes you are on a beautiful road in this car that goes forward so efficiently and with ease - all the troubles and uphills are forgotten and life just feels good and you realize that it is gift of life, that what ever the history, you are still lucky. The amount of gratitude is earth shattering.
Right when you say “I know air cooled guys out there are gonna say you’re nuts. if that’s you, that’s ok, “ I appreciated you not alienating anyone. Thank you.
Love your spec and your take on RAS. Agreed with you on full leather, 18 ways and Bose. I’d also take the glass roof. The only things I would have added are Sport Design bumpers and RS Spyder wheels 😅
Sold my 992T a few months after owning it. I didn’t hold back on options but it felt so soul-less and uninteresting even compared to the 991.2 T I had before it. Now I’m in a 964
@@WilliamFisher1 maybe, but I wouldn’t say anything detracted from driving focus. Rear steer, rear seat delete, manual transmission and slicktop. The reasons I sold are more 992 related than T specific.
Great job sticking to your spec. Couldn't agree more. Make sure to rub conditioner into all the leather. You'll be shocked at how dry it is from factory and how much better it looks when you're finished. Cheers. Enjoy that car.
Great content as always! Thank you. Can you do a video comparing the 991.2 to the 992 please? (I’m sure you’re already thinking about it) haha. And I can’t wait for your comparison with the 992 and air cooled. I have several air cooled and a 991.2 (and 997.2) and am thinking of selling the water cooled ones and just sticking with the air cooled. They are just so special (and not pretentious). Everyone loves the air cooled ones but when they see you in a newer Porsche, they give attitude. Haha.
I’m on my 3rd 911 which is a 2023 Carrera T. I’ve also had an 1986 944 (262+K miles) 2008 M3 manual, 2018 M550 & 2019 M5 Competition. I didn’t spec my Carrera T but took ownership when the original customer backed out. I would say the car is what I expected, biggest disappointment is the base stereo. I had the base in my 991.1. (Other 911’s I ordered) and it was fine, but I intend on doing an aftermarket swap on the stereo. I probably will also do a tune to increase the horsepower and may also put larger turbos on it from Flat Six Motorsports. I will say I am happy to have front axle lift on the car.
I just did a stage 2 tune on my T at Flat 6 and they actually did a video on my car a couple of weeks back. I would recommend you do a stage 2 before doing the turbo swap. Drive the car with the additional power with the smaller turbos. It feels like a NA car with minimal lag. The car is a beast now.
This is one of the first modern Porsches where the older version is better than the newer version. Just compare the 991.2 vs 992, the new model is heaver and with only 5 additional HP. The 991.2 is much rarer and feels special with bucket seats and cloth door pulls. I can see the 991.2 variation being much more valuable in years to come.
Possibly…but we don’t know what will come later that might make the 992 T “the last of” something. We have seen this over and over: enthusiasts are always criticizing the latest Porsche for not being this or not being that…then in 10 years that very same model is desirable bc the newer ones just “don’t have the soul” of the same one they use to criticize.
I've been waiting for this since you came out with your first video about SB! My Shark Blue T is scheduled to land in CA in 10 days. I can't wait. I went with more of a minimal spec, but I agree that you need to get it how you want it. This past Friday the Bendpak got installed, so now my 3 car garage is a 4 car garage. :) I also pinch myself constantly.
Exhaust note is underwhelming because the exhaust valves partially close between 1-4k rpm even with PSE set to ‘on’ in order to meet sound regulations. M-Engineering can fix this for you by making PSE a true on/off button. They throw in GTS power and eliminate cold start and stop/start for free. 😃
Thanks! I don’t want to play around with the warranty bc that peace of mind is why I am enjoying the newer cars (Spyder is CPO). I’m lucky that I have a couple of other cars with killer exhaust notes so if I need to scratch that itch I can jump in one of those.
Beautifully specced! Exactly how I would have done it, the LWBS are very uncomfortable for street use. Yours is a nice blend of both street and track use ability. I’m on my second Porsche (both used) and look forward to the day when I spec my very own.
I drive a 992 T and since the first minute It reminded me of my first drive in a Porsche 911 964 30 years ago. This car brings really back some of this analogue feeling, although the balance of the chassis and the traction on the rear axle is so unbelievably good, that it takes all little bit of the thrill away. But me maybe this is for good. I enjoy my Carrera T very much because it brings back the emotions back to a car that maybe just got a little bit to perfect.
Only thing irritating me is the dang P zero tires. They are borderline dangerous when even slightly cold and worthless in the wet. So, hard to hammer on the T coming out of a sharp turn bc the back end breaks loose (bc of the phenomenal torque) and the traction control comes on.
Interesting. Mine was delivered with Goodyear F1. In wet and cold conditions I made a similar experience. The tires were quite unpredictable and tend to loose grip all of sudden, especially in tight corners (no ras). I am quite sure that I will change them very soon for the Michelins. There should be less sound from tire roll with the french rubbers, as I heard.
@diegodivers you got the better ones. It’s the luck of the draw, unfortunately. Guess it has to do with whatever deal Porsche can get with the tire manufacturer at the time.
Nice vid, good initial impression, it helped me a lot, thanks!. Just placed my order. Spec’d with the lower cost seat package w/ slate gray stitching, rear steer, carbon roof, rear seat delete, white tach, extinguisher, and Bose. I liked the sport design pack but built the car in black (looks killer w/ the gray trim and wheels) … I thought the extra $7K for the SD pack would disappear, and I think the horizontal front face nods to the bigger GT cars. Delivery in June! I think the T is going to be a sought after investment. Moreover, it’s going to be fun! 🚘
Do you like leaving the windows up and the roof open? Would that allow you to enjoy the exhaust, or do you have to have the windows down? I get what you mean about the buffeting and the whistle. I’m just wondering if using the roof instead of the windows would make a difference. Great color! One of my buddies just got one in yellow, last spring and another got one in gentian. Such cool cars.
Interesting parallel. I sold my black 991.2 targa 4S and spec’d a new shark blue 992 C2. Like you, I was worried abt drop in power which is noticeable at but I don’t miss it. Many same feelings about both cars-miss the sound of 991.2 4S. Great video!
hey Will, I was at Flow not that long ago and I saw your blue cayman in there. That was a sweet ride. Wish I could've pulled the trigger on it! I've bought two cars from Flow and they are great!
An APR tune changed the character of my base '22 coupe. It feels as fast as a GTS but the rear end is a little squirmy w/o the limited slip...which for me is a good thing,.
Uniden R7 and getting ready to have it hard mounted by the mirror with a Blendmount. Tying the power into the dash can prep power to get the messy cables off the dash.
Nice car! I had a 2017 911S (also black), and while I thought it was a good car, it was a little too insulated and GT like vs pure sports car. I had a 2009 base carrera before that and I had more fun driving it than the 2017. I agree the T has plenty of power. To me, the 911S almost had too much. I have a Lotus Emira at the dealer as we speak (waiting for CARB certification), and look forward to that and I am also in the line for the 911 T. I think it is a good mix of power/weight and driving fun. I also think the quality of 911's is really good. I think they have nailed the interiors with the right mix of tech and physical buttons and integrated so well both ergonomically and aesthetically. I can't stand the new BMW M's where everything is on a big screen that looks like a skate board sitting on a dash. Enjoy your ride!
Thanks for the update. My T is stuck in Emden and won’t see it for another month. I probably would have added a few more things to my car but the ADM monster spent $5000 up front. I couldn’t talk the wife unit into the carbon bucket seats so 18 ways were added to an otherwise plain MT car.
LWB’s are very cool but are tough to live with if you get in and out of the car frequently. I have them in my Spyder and they are badass when you’re on backroads or road trips but errands around town get tedious when you have to climb in and out…and it’s important to be careful of clearing the bolsters so as not to damage leather. 18 ways are FANTASTIC!
Is this more fun than the GT4. I can't decide between a 992 Carrera T and the 718 GT4. Not real excited about the lithium battery at $2,500. Like you on some of the chat stuff you go deep and read where some of the owners are starting to have problems keeping them cranking. Even on Battery Tender stuff. But I don't know.
What’s odd is my battery is labeled AGM despite having RAS. Battery tender is your friend. I like the T better than the GT4. I owned a 981, not 718. GT4 - as I’m sure you know - is more track focused and not exactly ideal as a daily.
Congrats on the new T. Sounds like a fabulous car. I have a new Cayman coming next week. Really struggling to decide whether to add PPF or not. Would appreciate your thoughts on this.
My 86 Carrera and Spyder both have the from ends done and it’s great not to have to worry about the paint. Also, I got talked into trying the clear window film on a 964 I had and I tried it. It had weird distortions in it so I had them pull it. I would suggest not going for that if they bring it up.
Congrats on the new car. I have to say, though, that I'm becoming weary of the Porsche Configurator. There are just too many choices and the anxiety of potentially not speccing the car "right" detracts from the pleasure of driving the car in the first place. The prices have become insane and I fear that Porsche is falling prey to the uber-wealthy and leaving the "working rich" behind with each new generation of cars they produce.
The configurator is painful for the reasons you mention….I had to build and rebuild 6 times to get it right…and anxiety was still high that I missed something. It also will delete certain earlier-selected things when you make seemingly unrelated choices later. Frustrating. That said, I’m a marketer by background and I do respect their presumably psychologically focused way of designing the configurator to drive your price point up.
It was a tough call for sure but my reality dictated it. I actually prefer my Spyder over the GT4. Same motor, slight detuned, same trans, same torque but with a soft top and just a tad less teeth chattering.
Thanks! My hope is never to have to make that choice bc they are both so good 😄 But…if I could keep only one I would likely keep the T because it has greater utility meaning is easier to daily drive, run errands in, etc. I dailied my Spyder all spring and summer and it was GREAT but climbing in and out of the buckets got old. If you’re asking for a model to model comparison (not my specific 981 Spyder example vs my specific T) I can’t answer that yet. I need to live with the T longer. I absolutely love my Spyder. Love it. I feel it’s one of the most under appreciated modern Porsche by much of the Porsche community.
T because it offers a driver’s ethos in the modern 911 package. I have a lot of experience with - and love for - the air cooled cars. I like how the T evokes the spirit of the older cars in the sense of delivering a more “back roadable” (is that a word? lol!) driving experience with the modern amenities you want in a modern 911/daily.
Great real world review. I’m curious about the road noise particularly on the highway and the engine noise as well. I have a 991.1 base Carrera ( tolerable noise levels) and a 982 GT4 ( often intolerable) thinking about a 992 T to replace the 991 but worried that it may be too loud. Any thoughts or comparisons on this? Thanks!
For sure they’re heavier and I believe combined they add another 60 lbs over the 4 ways. This was part of the calculus in my decision making but as I shared in the vid the car is better for it, at least in my use case.
You are odd dude, but that’s ok that’s part of the fun. My buddy just got 2024 911S but I still love my 2014 991.1 S cabriolet N/A top down the sound smokes all the turbo’s for me
Could you please clarify the break In period? I have a new GTS 4.0 Boxster with 1200 miles and I have accidentally PDK down shifts touched 5k rpm couple of times. should I do an oil change at the end of the break in? One year service will be July 31 of 24. Im a new sub. Thank you.
Congrats and great video. Just wondering the reason behind the trade (S for the T)...normally is the opposite!!!I am in the market for both but not sure which to go....so far I am more for the S but after this video I am lost again 😂
This might help you understand: ruclips.net/video/skaCpfDCgqo/видео.htmlsi=jjhPwT-mxgAfxmde I love the T’s driver-orientation. Plus I wanted something more special and the opportunity to build my own was something I just couldn’t pass up.
I just picked up my Carrera T 2 hours ago! I'll come back and watch this video in a bit, brb
Okay I've had my Carrera T for 48 hours now. Great car, but 2 things I hate: stock audio system is GARBAGE and rear camera is terrible. Both of those things seem like a slap in the face for how much money you're paying. But otherwise, the car is damn good
I bought a 991.2 T (ordered new) when a lot of folks were bashing it. Once they realized what it was, they shut up. That legacy has carried the 992T sales forward, but at the price, it's hard to justify. I jumped to the 992 GTS since it wasn't much more and gets you so much more (wheels, brakes, power, springs, sport design, etc.). Nice T and congrats.
Agreed, sport design is a must for the 992, the base bumper 🤢. I love my 991.2 T, was just over $100k, and a tune really woke the motor up (same for 992, absolute must do).
Potential is the key word....the “T” has the potential to be faster then a GT3 and still be $50k less.
@Westcoastrocksduh I mean, having another second before becoming a felon won't change much. ;) I would have gone with the T again if the price difference was a lot more than it really is. Once you add the options up, the T really gets very close to the GTS. Most of the reasons are not because of the extra power but the extra items you get (bumpers, brakes, etc.). I also wondered if the GTS would be too much power but I drove one at PEC and felt it was totally fine. Under normal driving you'll feel the torque more than anything else, and to me that makes a huge difference. The T is totally more than one would need under normal driving, but so is a GTI. Whenever I hear someone say 'It's all you need', I think to myself 'Why am I paying in excess of 100K for 'all I need'?' I want a bit more. ;) lol
@@iKone911what tech options did you get?
@@ClaudiuAdam RAS, 18ways, 7MT, Burmester, Surround View.
Congrats on your new T. I also just got one and the best thing I've done so far was a stage two tune. It totally transforms the experience and that muted exhaust note you mentioned is now much deeper without being overwhelming. With the valves closed it sounds stock. I went with the M-engineering stage 2 remap, valved soul performance exhaust, soul 200 cell link pipes and a CSF intercooler, BMC air filer and DO88 inlets & pressure hoses. The car is now pushing about 540hp at the crank and to me it feels like this is how it was meant to be from the factory. I would highly recommend this set up to anyone who is considering doing mods. Flat 6 Motorsport in Orlando did the work and they did an amazing job. They made a video of how the car drives and sounds so if anyone is curious check it out. Again, congrats on your new T, the spec is awesome. Cheers!
warranty??
I guess that would depend on what breaks and why, but personally I didn't buy the car to protect the warranty or resale value. Fun factor is my priority and so far it's been worth every penny. I'm also told this platform can take a lot more than 540 hp at the crank.@@berponteberponte3231
Ahhh same I planning to do!
Adding springs or coilovers as well
I love my 991.2 T. I’ll never sell it, but my love went up another level with my Sharkwerks exhaust and tune. It’s my perfect car. Baby seat in the back. Manual. Reliable. Keeps up with GT3s at the track. Roof racks make it my truck. Room to grow with GTS turbos whenever mine explode. And only lowly Carrera parts if anything else is to break :)
thank you for not being douchy about it. so many Porsche owners are and it is a big turnoff. you seem like a really cool guy. I enjoyed this video.
Awesome car, awesome vid. No surprise about you bonding instantly with the car. Having the good fortune to purchase a car brand new from a dealership is an experience in and of itself; but getting to spec a special order car, and having it roll out of that delivery truck exactly the way you wanted is on a whole other level. Now that the car exists, no matter how long you own it, no matter how many miles you put on it, no matter how many times it trades hands in the future; That car will always be the car that you “built”; and your name will always be the one on that first stamp in the owners manual.
I would definitely have gone with the T lightweight ethos altogether, slick top/carbon, carbon buckets, no rear wheel steering etc. Keep it as lightweight as possible 😀
That’s what’s so great about building your own…we can all lock into what is right for our goals. Thanks for watching!
Going for this more luxury vers. Was no better to go for the GTS? Dashboard without the leather opt. Is it really that terrible? Color I between this shark bleu and the metallic one any regret? I wanted the ext. Design pack but the original looks much better than in the configuration tool. Nose loft no regrets? Thanks for your content ! Note on the last coment, carbon roof, carbon seats are like 20/25kg difference from the Alum. Roof and sport seats...for over 10k... not sure it worth it honnestly. For the same price you can get a GT4 RS. Happy new year guys.
Have a 991.2 T that replaced a 997.2 C4S. Ceramics, carbon seats, rear seat delete, manual. Absolutely love it.
It’s not that the base 992 doesn’t have enough power, but that the rest of the car is so overbuilt/overengineered that it makes the driving experience feel a bit soulless/dead. Most of the issues I have with the base 992 are solved with the gts/turbo/gt3, but then (as you said) you can’t really fully utilize them on public roads.
I’m out of break in and have been for awhile.
This car pulls plenty hard above 5,000 and once you find the rhythm on backroads between shift points, steering inputs and braking it’s a hoot. Very engaging and definitely worth owning.
@@Rennthusiast maybe I was a bit harsh, but compared to something like an Emira (or even a c8) it’s not the same level of enthralling (to me). It’s all personal preference at the end of the day.
@golfinguru11 no worries, you didn’t come across as harsh at all. I welcome all input and thoughts.
I haven’t been blessed to drive an air-cooled 911. So I was happy when you liked and enjoyed your new 992.
When I watch most of the videos or read articles about 911, I feel that my 992 is not a 911 rather something else that was made by Porsche.
BTW, I like that you spec’d the car the way you liked and didn’t listen to what most people say “if you want to add options, you’d better get 992 S”.
Congratulations, and I’ll be waiting for your video on similarities between air-cooled and the 992 T 911s.
Glad you are enjoying the new car. The 992 is really amazing. Regarding allocation, when I pulled the trigger from my 992 Turbo S, I got a 23 allocation immediately, but waited a month for the 24's for a specific option I wanted, No games, no ADM. That has been my experience with all three Porsche I have brought from them starting with my 993, but really depend on the dealer. I tried to by my Taycan at a new dealer in my local town and was a waste of time, 9 mo to be exact. BTW - I find that if I pop the sun roof vent it really helps with the buffeting, but also keeping both open an even amount helps and really wish there was a mode sync them when you crack them.
I'm for the time being financially not in a position to even fill the gas tank of 992 911 T but I can see myself in one once the circumstances improve. The philosophy of this model is really in accordance with my soul.
Excellent and hones review, thank you.
Very good review! I had to add this additional comment because you did address things that others hadn’t. You put the passion back in purchasing a passionate vehicle!
I appreciate that!
Great video, thanks. So Wife and I went to the Dealer South of Boston to shop a 911T for her (I'm an aircooled guy-993). Long story short; prices start at 10% over sticker, ~6 mos wait and unsure if she can order the Paint to Sample(Irish Green) because Porsche is pretty much at capacity..... Glad for Porsche, but the PTS is really frustrating her. Can grimace and bear the rest...yeah, 1st world problems. Enjoy your car!
What is the deal with PTS only being available on the GT and Special models?
The PTS catalog was how I initially got my wife interested in my Porsche pursuit. She _LOVED_ building different specs and models.
Unfortunately, the Porsche (US) website seems to be temporarily inoperable at times. At least on my end. Specifically, the 'New & Used Inventory' option continually gives me a 403 ERROR, regardless of the model. On numerous occasions the 'Build Your Porsche' page simply would not function properly for several days on end.
They say misery loves company. Well, we feel that same frustration brother.
Stay classy my friend.
Well...we watched this video a few more times, had a long talk over a few days away and just put a deposit on a Ruby Stone Red 911t...work hard, enjoy the results! Thanks again for this clip. @@BertShackleford
Congrats! Lovely spec! I bought a used 991.2 T a few years back for just over $100k. It’s one of the few with LWBS, and now with a tune it really gives an exhilarating driving experience. I’ll admit that after having the privilege to spec a Taycan 4S from the factory, it’s tempting to get a 992 T just the way I want, but the price point is so much higher now.
Enjoyed the perspective. I've had my 992 Carrera for 8 months now, spec'd from the factory. I too am very glad I didn't hold back checking options. These cars really are $150k GT cars that have been de-contented to allow a lower entry price, they don't feel right with rubber dash boards or corolla-level stereos. You gotta spec them up to the price point they sell at. Now I had the opposite opinion in my GT4, as a hard core track car it felt fine with almost no options. The one issue you didn't discuss about RAS is the whole lithium battery issue, they have an issue where they die and they cost a fortune to replace.
I am spooked about the Lithium battery. It is true that without RAS you don't have a lithium, just if you choose the RAS you are stuck with the Lithium battery.
Congrats on your T. Great color. I have a 992 T which I picked up at PEC-ATL. I heard about the buffetting issue beforehand on Rennlist and got the windblocks like you did before took delivery. I've had no whistling, interestingly enough. Love the manual and no RAS, but in no way I was able to compare with one that did have RAS, so nothing for me to miss, I love it as is. I have a basic spec (no RAS, no 18-ways, no sunroof), but a few options that I needed (folding mirrors, heated steering wheel), shark blue seat belts and gentian blue interior accents (aka my exterior color) in lieu of piano black. Porsche Tysons was able to do my order MSRP for me and it worked out faster than expected. 2500 miles now in 2.5 months (1000 the first week drivng from ATL to DC via Tail of the Dragon, etc).
My thoughts when specing my T were similar to yours. No RAS (although I had been in a dilemma for weeks, but went for the more raw and predictable steering), no sunroof (in want the car to feel as stiff and sporty as possible, and in my opinion, a sun roof takes away that feeling a bit), no 18way seats, but I did opt for PDK (although a manual is awesome, I'm all about that race car game feeling of the PDK), race tex / alcantara all the way wherever possible (wheel, roof etc.), and I did opt for the rear seats as I have kids to sometimes fit in the back ;)
But no matter how you spec it... you can't go wrong.
Congratulations on your purchase. You own my dream car. I can't afford one but I own my second favorite car, a Mustang GT, and I know exactly what you mean about that instant connection. The car found me and I was hooked the moment I saw it and sat in it. Enjoy your beautiful Porsche.
991.2 T owner. DSC box, Cup2's, Soul 200 cell cats, and tune and car becomes next level.
Love your balanced review style. Interestingly enough I went in the opposite direction you did. I sold a 991.2 Carrera T when I got an allocation for 718 GT4. Both are great cars.
The Carrera T dosen't really make sense to a lot of people - its basically a run out parts bin model, they used to do this with the Carrera "black". I know several people that bought the T and regretted it fairly quickly - they work out instantaneously its not a budget GT3 as some try to claim, equally its not particularly good round a track particularly if it doesn't have RAS. Overall and in general, the 992 isn't that well liked - its not small and the interior, although well made, is very german taxi cab black and could have come from any mid-range german car. I have owned 20+ Porsche sports cars and the 992 series is the first that hasn't really interested me - in fact I gave up a 992 GT3 RS slot for a 296 GTB.
@@VK6AB-Really enjoyed your comment and from what I’ve heard…you are pretty much spot on.
As someone who is about to get my 3rd Porsche, I’d like to ask you a question.
I’m interested in getting “weekend car” if you know what I mean and live in New Zealand (the South Island) and I’m torn between a 2024 Cayman GTS, a Boxter GTS or the base 911.
Which of the 4 would you recommend and why?
Appreciate your time and wishing you a wonderful Happy New Year
@@EleanorJiang Cayman GTS 4.0L NA - with the GTS interior package and PDK plus sun visors in race tex. Its a very fine car, in fact its an outstanding car - also there is a large range of colours at no additional cost plus some PTS like colours for about 4k.
I live in Florida. I drive with the windows down and sunroof open every drive. Even in the oppressive heat of the summer, and the 40 degree mornings like my glorious drive yesterday, the windows are always down. Not a daily, so it's a bit easier, but still. I need those flat six noises with the windows down!
I think the T would suit me perfectly. I love everything about it, but I don't think I could handle any of the 992 generation wind buffeting issues. I really hope this is an issue the 992.2 solves. The idea my "lowly" 996 glides through the air without a whistle or rattle while a brand new 150k 992 buffets and squeals is genuinely shocking to me.
As always, I appreciate your earnest quest to bring honesty and balance to your videos. It's greatly appreciated, and it almost feels a bit criminal you haven't cracked the six figure subscriber count.
Thanks for the comment and compliment. Would love to be at 100,000 subs…hopefully someday.
I would love to see the T with the 6-speed sport manual transmission and not the 7-speed....
Keep the videos coming Will! I look forward to your videos all the time! Great work 🏎️
Agreed… spec your T the way that you see fit. I am in the less is more camp for a T and that is how I spec’ed my build. If I could have acquired a C2S allocation then my build would have been $156k. I personally could not see spec’ing my T near that at $150k+.
I agree with you, I came from a 991.2 T and picked up my 992 T about 6 months ago. Excellent all around car, however if a GT3 Touring allocation comes along I will rush to hand the dealer my keys :)
You’ve probably seen this but if you haven’t it’s a must watch. You own the right car now!
ruclips.net/video/yULjzUjEgu8/видео.htmlsi=RTWwhuUDKRzaikvu
Porsche improved the responiveness of the 992 3.0 turbo over the 991.2 3.0 turbo engine. It's subtle but noticeable.
Honestely, great review and great spec! Congrats on this masterpiece of a car!
RAS, in the end, comes down to a matter of taste. You spec it or you don't - the experience of driving the car will be both equally exceptional.
After weeks of dilemma, I ended up not opting for RAS, simply because I wanted a more natural, raw and authentic steering feel for the car. However, I did test drive a 992 GTS with RAS and I loved how nimble it felt, but also a bit too agitated and sometimes lacking the plantedness (that even a word? haha) of how I love a 911 to feel.
But I might go with RAS for any other future 911.
As I'm a PDK lover all the way, I went with PDK on my T. For some this may be sacrilege not opting for stick in the T, but I just love the way it makes me feel like I'm in a race car game in real life.
Again, congrats!!
Will, would love to see a video on how you insure all of your cars. What companies, what are the rates, what have you learned about the best way to insure these cars, etc. Thanks a lot!
-Tom
I use Grundy and have a regular collector policy. Rates aren’t exactly great but I have a less-than-ideal driving record.
My daily driver (F-150) is with Philadelphia and they devastate me on rates.
Some of the “luxury” options you added do actually elevate the experience. But there is one I definitely don’t agree with. That would be the 18-ways. They obviously have an enormous number of motors and mechanisms inside that add quite a lot of weight, which goes against the philosophy of the T. Ideally, the seat option to go with is the full bucket seats, but if this is a DD and the FBS are a bit too extreme, the 4-ways are a great alternative and won’t add too much weight over the FBS. Secondary to that if I was to really nitpick would be the retractable roof, which adds what, like 20-30 lbs, and in the worst spot, which is the highest part of the car. Other than that, you really nailed this build. I love that there is almost no visible plastic. You even got leather on the steering column. Big ups to that.
I traded in my 992 C2S Manual 2 years ago. It was a very compliant and capable sporty car. Very similar to your T. Also similar to a 2023 C8 Corvette I owned. However, it’s not the visceral experience you get in a street legal race car. In my subjective opinion a Sports Car and a Sporty looking Car are 2 different animals. Buy what you enjoy driving - I appreciate your perspective on the differences between all your current and previously enjoyed Porsche works of Art. Merry Christmas 🎄 to all.
Beautiful! Good for you for choosing a top quality car in a color other than gray tone! Nice choice!
It’s a 911
They’re all good
I always buy the cheapest one because every time I flip it the next one is just a little better and more than enough for a 70 year old
Thanks for doing this review, and for replacing the RAS question mark with an exclamation point.
Yeah building your own is the way to go, it makes it yours, and makes it special. Plus the used market isn't even that much cheaper. Getting one that fast is pretty awesome. Many, if not most, are getting the base 911, T, and S at MSRP, that's not that special now.
I ordered RAS on my 2024 992 GTS, and also saw a handful of Nayayers on the reader boards after spec locked. Started to question my choice. Thanks for the thumbs up on RAS. Car due next week, so going to find out myself. Shark Blue as well. Enjoy your T. You have great taste in air and water cooled hardware...
A friend of mine who has owned 40 Porsches says his 2023 T is his favorite one of all...
I’ve heard that from others as well. Porsche used special sauce here.
T is for touring but many people associate it with lightness because of the history of the T spec. However, having a glass roof adds so much weight (?) that the sum of tiny weight losses elsewhere is probably negated. If you have 1500 kg car you will not notice 15 kg difference ( d/D = 1%) in road drive. If you are a sensitive driver you might notice about 5% difference. Of course driving at the margin at a race track and a lap time might tell it sooner but then you have to be already very very very fast driver.
The buffeting - have you tried having the windows open differently between left and right. Many cars get at resonation speed buffeting one window open which then vanishes if you open the other window just a little. The other window needs to act like a damper, just like bleeding. I have 996 and if I remember correctly the windows need to be open differently at certain speeds. I rarely have the windows open - living in not that warm country. The buffeting is not only about the inside volume and the hole like Helmholz resonator but also about the von Kharmann wake buffeting which is down to the overall shape of the car and the Reynolds number ( a non dimensional scale number representing the inertial and viscous forces ratio in flow). As a phenomenom wake buffeting is related to the screws you sometimes see around high industrial chimneys. Sometimes if you shoot with a tripod when windy you will find the tripod starts to vibrate at certain wind speeds if it has round legs and center pillar. Then you take off your coat and wrap it around the tripod and it vanishes. You can also try rope or somekinda net around the tubes - bit like the golf ball, you try to manipulate the wake formation.
What I would like to know is how do you find the size of the car compared to anything before 991. And also overall sensation between the older models and the 992. One point of view is that e.g. I dont like when the car makes the decisions. I even hate the comfy turn signals. I want to decide how many blinks I message. I dont want Porsche’s of Bosch’ engineers to decide it for me.
Like I said, I “only” have a 996 but the deep gratitude you experience when driving or even looking at the car is amazing. Sometimes you are on a beautiful road in this car that goes forward so efficiently and with ease - all the troubles and uphills are forgotten and life just feels good and you realize that it is gift of life, that what ever the history, you are still lucky. The amount of gratitude is earth shattering.
Right when you say “I know air cooled guys out there are gonna say you’re nuts. if that’s you, that’s ok, “ I appreciated you not alienating anyone. Thank you.
Haha that’s how I roll man. Thanks for watching 🙏🏼
Love your spec and your take on RAS. Agreed with you on full leather, 18 ways and Bose. I’d also take the glass roof. The only things I would have added are Sport Design bumpers and RS Spyder wheels 😅
yep.. 18 ways, full leather, and Bose (or the premium package) are my top 3 must have options
Sold my 992T a few months after owning it. I didn’t hold back on options but it felt so soul-less and uninteresting even compared to the 991.2 T I had before it.
Now I’m in a 964
Probably because of all the options you added.
@@WilliamFisher1 maybe, but I wouldn’t say anything detracted from driving focus. Rear steer, rear seat delete, manual transmission and slicktop. The reasons I sold are more 992 related than T specific.
Yet another great video with the honesty thread like no other RUclipsr. Super stuff Will. Luv the Channel.
I appreciate that!
Oh, and lovely spec. The black mirror caps, 911T decal and dark rims really compliment the Shark Blue.
Great job sticking to your spec. Couldn't agree more.
Make sure to rub conditioner into all the leather. You'll be shocked at how dry it is from factory and how much better it looks when you're finished. Cheers. Enjoy that car.
What a great Story 🎅🏾your local Porsche dealer is a winner 🫡
Great content as always! Thank you. Can you do a video comparing the 991.2 to the 992 please? (I’m sure you’re already thinking about it) haha. And I can’t wait for your comparison with the 992 and air cooled.
I have several air cooled and a 991.2 (and 997.2) and am thinking of selling the water cooled ones and just sticking with the air cooled. They are just so special (and not pretentious). Everyone loves the air cooled ones but when they see you in a newer Porsche, they give attitude. Haha.
I’m on my 3rd 911 which is a 2023 Carrera T. I’ve also had an 1986 944 (262+K miles) 2008 M3 manual, 2018 M550 & 2019 M5 Competition. I didn’t spec my Carrera T but took ownership when the original customer backed out. I would say the car is what I expected, biggest disappointment is the base stereo. I had the base in my 991.1. (Other 911’s I ordered) and it was fine, but I intend on doing an aftermarket swap on the stereo. I probably will also do a tune to increase the horsepower and may also put larger turbos on it from Flat Six Motorsports. I will say I am happy to have front axle lift on the car.
I went with Bose, which I should have mentioned in the video. I knew it was worth it because I have it in my Spyder, which happened to come with it.
I just did a stage 2 tune on my T at Flat 6 and they actually did a video on my car a couple of weeks back. I would recommend you do a stage 2 before doing the turbo swap. Drive the car with the additional power with the smaller turbos. It feels like a NA car with minimal lag. The car is a beast now.
Ive got a 992 Carrera T arriving in 2 weeks. Does the stage 2 tune cancel or negate the warranty?@@schezz1208
I still cannot believe they did not charge you over MSRP... Beautiful car!
Haha yeah I can’t either. Crazy. Thank you!
@@Rennthusiast the power of RUclips! Well done.
This is one of the first modern Porsches where the older version is better than the newer version. Just compare the 991.2 vs 992, the new model is heaver and with only 5 additional HP. The 991.2 is much rarer and feels special with bucket seats and cloth door pulls. I can see the 991.2 variation being much more valuable in years to come.
Possibly…but we don’t know what will come later that might make the 992 T “the last of” something. We have seen this over and over: enthusiasts are always criticizing the latest Porsche for not being this or not being that…then in 10 years that very same model is desirable bc the newer ones just “don’t have the soul” of the same one they use to criticize.
I've been waiting for this since you came out with your first video about SB! My Shark Blue T is scheduled to land in CA in 10 days. I can't wait. I went with more of a minimal spec, but I agree that you need to get it how you want it. This past Friday the Bendpak got installed, so now my 3 car garage is a 4 car garage. :) I also pinch myself constantly.
Exhaust note is underwhelming because the exhaust valves partially close between 1-4k rpm even with PSE set to ‘on’ in order to meet sound regulations. M-Engineering can fix this for you by making PSE a true on/off button. They throw in GTS power and eliminate cold start and stop/start for free. 😃
Would that void the warranty?
@@Rennthusiast yes. You can flash back to stock but the dealer can find out that you tuned it if they dug deep enough supposedly.
Thanks! I don’t want to play around with the warranty bc that peace of mind is why I am enjoying the newer cars (Spyder is CPO).
I’m lucky that I have a couple of other cars with killer exhaust notes so if I need to scratch that itch I can jump in one of those.
Beautifully specced! Exactly how I would have done it, the LWBS are very uncomfortable for street use. Yours is a nice blend of both street and track use ability. I’m on my second Porsche (both used) and look forward to the day when I spec my very own.
I drive a 992 T and since the first minute It reminded me of my first drive in a Porsche 911 964 30 years ago. This car brings really back some of this analogue feeling, although the balance of the chassis and the traction on the rear axle is so unbelievably good, that it takes all little bit of the thrill away. But me maybe this is for good. I enjoy my Carrera T very much because it brings back the emotions back to a car that maybe just got a little bit to perfect.
Only thing irritating me is the dang P zero tires. They are borderline dangerous when even slightly cold and worthless in the wet.
So, hard to hammer on the T coming out of a sharp turn bc the back end breaks loose (bc of the phenomenal torque) and the traction control comes on.
Interesting. Mine was delivered with Goodyear F1. In wet and cold conditions I made a similar experience. The tires were quite unpredictable and tend to loose grip all of sudden, especially in tight corners (no ras). I am quite sure that I will change them very soon for the Michelins. There should be less sound from tire roll with the french rubbers, as I heard.
@diegodivers you got the better ones. It’s the luck of the draw, unfortunately. Guess it has to do with whatever deal Porsche can get with the tire manufacturer at the time.
Wish this car had front and rear sport bumpers. Only thing its missing
Nice vid, good initial impression, it helped me a lot, thanks!. Just placed my order. Spec’d with the lower cost seat package w/ slate gray stitching, rear steer, carbon roof, rear seat delete, white tach, extinguisher, and Bose. I liked the sport design pack but built the car in black (looks killer w/ the gray trim and wheels) … I thought the extra $7K for the SD pack would disappear, and I think the horizontal front face nods to the bigger GT cars. Delivery in June! I think the T is going to be a sought after investment. Moreover, it’s going to be fun! 🚘
Do you like leaving the windows up and the roof open? Would that allow you to enjoy the exhaust, or do you have to have the windows down? I get what you mean about the buffeting and the whistle. I’m just wondering if using the roof instead of the windows would make a difference. Great color! One of my buddies just got one in yellow, last spring and another got one in gentian. Such cool cars.
The roof buffets also, but much less. Just bad aerodynamics. Wonder if the aero package would have defeated these issues 🤔
@@Rennthusiast interesting. I’m surprised that something like this is an issue in a 911.
Interesting parallel. I sold my black 991.2 targa 4S and spec’d a new shark blue 992 C2. Like you, I was worried abt drop in power which is noticeable at but I don’t miss it. Many same feelings about both cars-miss the sound of 991.2 4S. Great video!
Love your review/initiall impressions.
Glad you like them!
Base engine has smaller turbos so while it has less outright hp and torque some prefer it cause it mitigates turbo lag better than the S variant
Thanks Will! Another informative, well put together and pleasant "tempo to watch" video. Merry Christmas!
hey Will, I was at Flow not that long ago and I saw your blue cayman in there. That was a sweet ride. Wish I could've pulled the trigger on it! I've bought two cars from Flow and they are great!
It is an amazing deal! In Europe we are paying at least 30% more due to taxes for 911 T.
An APR tune changed the character of my base '22 coupe. It feels as fast as a GTS but the rear end is a little squirmy w/o the limited slip...which for me is a good thing,.
Porsche needs to bring back the early 911's pop-out rear side windows. That would eliminate the buffeting 100%... and look cool doing so.
Another great well presented outstanding insight presentation. Your content consistently excellent!
Thank you 🙏🏼
Just went back from 991S to 993. But also get you’re move! BR from the Netherlands
I love the color and had planned to spec mine that way. Unfortunately, Shark Blue is no longer an option...
Well done. I love my Ice Grey Metallic T. What radar detector and mount are you running?
Uniden R7 and getting ready to have it hard mounted by the mirror with a Blendmount. Tying the power into the dash can prep power to get the messy cables off the dash.
Popping the sunroof to its vent position greatly attenuates the wind buffeting.
Nice car! I had a 2017 911S (also black), and while I thought it was a good car, it was a little too insulated and GT like vs pure sports car. I had a 2009 base carrera before that and I had more fun driving it than the 2017. I agree the T has plenty of power. To me, the 911S almost had too much. I have a Lotus Emira at the dealer as we speak (waiting for CARB certification), and look forward to that and I am also in the line for the 911 T. I think it is a good mix of power/weight and driving fun. I also think the quality of 911's is really good. I think they have nailed the interiors with the right mix of tech and physical buttons and integrated so well both ergonomically and aesthetically. I can't stand the new BMW M's where everything is on a big screen that looks like a skate board sitting on a dash. Enjoy your ride!
Interesting comment about window buffering. This is also important to me but I certainly don’t have those issues on my 991.2 gts cab
No doubt. Different aerodynamics.
I'm going without the the RAS. I'm not a track monster so it's not a needed item. But your car looks beautiful.
RAS remind me of the front end suspension characteristics of a 981 GT4.
Thanks for the update. My T is stuck in Emden and won’t see it for another month. I probably would have added a few more things to my car but the ADM monster spent $5000 up front. I couldn’t talk the wife unit into the carbon bucket seats so 18 ways were added to an otherwise plain MT car.
LWB’s are very cool but are tough to live with if you get in and out of the car frequently. I have them in my Spyder and they are badass when you’re on backroads or road trips but errands around town get tedious when you have to climb in and out…and it’s important to be careful of clearing the bolsters so as not to damage leather.
18 ways are FANTASTIC!
Shout out to Charlottesville. I absolutely love this town. And hello Porsche of C'Ville and your beautiful new facility. I'm coming to see you soon!
Go ask for Brian. Tell him I sent you.
Is this more fun than the GT4. I can't decide between a 992 Carrera T and the 718 GT4. Not real excited about the lithium battery at $2,500. Like you on some of the chat stuff you go deep and read where some of the owners are starting to have problems keeping them cranking. Even on Battery Tender stuff. But I don't know.
What’s odd is my battery is labeled AGM despite having RAS. Battery tender is your friend.
I like the T better than the GT4. I owned a 981, not 718. GT4 - as I’m sure you know - is more track focused and not exactly ideal as a daily.
That is good information..@@Rennthusiast
I still can’t get over the rear design of the 992.1. I‘ll always prefer the 991.2 T and would add a stage 1 tuning.
That color... WOW!!!
Congrats on the new T. Sounds like a fabulous car. I have a new Cayman coming next week. Really struggling to decide whether to add PPF or not. Would appreciate your thoughts on this.
Do the front. I did mine on the T.
I did the full car on my GT4 and regretted it. Was overkill.
Thanks for the reply. Sounds like a good compromise. Looking forward to the next video.
My 86 Carrera and Spyder both have the from ends done and it’s great not to have to worry about the paint.
Also, I got talked into trying the clear window film on a 964 I had and I tried it. It had weird distortions in it so I had them pull it. I would suggest not going for that if they bring it up.
Congrats on the new car. I have to say, though, that I'm becoming weary of the Porsche Configurator. There are just too many choices and the anxiety of potentially not speccing the car "right" detracts from the pleasure of driving the car in the first place. The prices have become insane and I fear that Porsche is falling prey to the uber-wealthy and leaving the "working rich" behind with each new generation of cars they produce.
The configurator is painful for the reasons you mention….I had to build and rebuild 6 times to get it right…and anxiety was still high that I missed something. It also will delete certain earlier-selected things when you make seemingly unrelated choices later. Frustrating.
That said, I’m a marketer by background and I do respect their presumably psychologically focused way of designing the configurator to drive your price point up.
@@Rennthusiast I think the price has been “driven up” way beyond profitability at this point. 😂
Happy for you, but trading a gt4 for this is a tough call
It was a tough call for sure but my reality dictated it. I actually prefer my Spyder over the GT4. Same motor, slight detuned, same trans, same torque but with a soft top and just a tad less teeth chattering.
Excellent review! If you had to choose, would you prefer the Carrera T or the 981 Spyder? And why?
Thanks!
My hope is never to have to make that choice bc they are both so good 😄
But…if I could keep only one I would likely keep the T because it has greater utility meaning is easier to daily drive, run errands in, etc.
I dailied my Spyder all spring and summer and it was GREAT but climbing in and out of the buckets got old.
If you’re asking for a model to model comparison (not my specific 981 Spyder example vs my specific T) I can’t answer that yet. I need to live with the T longer.
I absolutely love my Spyder. Love it. I feel it’s one of the most under appreciated modern Porsche by much of the Porsche community.
Thanks for the video. I am thinking of trading in my 22 c4 for a new T. Manual etc. I will get the backseat though. Now on to watch your spec video.
Carrera S or Carrera T for a daily driver? Great video - thanks.
T because it offers a driver’s ethos in the modern 911 package. I have a lot of experience with - and love for - the air cooled cars. I like how the T evokes the spirit of the older cars in the sense of delivering a more “back roadable” (is that a word? lol!) driving experience with the modern amenities you want in a modern 911/daily.
Great real world review. I’m curious about the road noise particularly on the highway and the engine noise as well. I have a 991.1 base Carrera ( tolerable noise levels) and a 982 GT4 ( often intolerable) thinking about a 992 T to replace the 991 but worried that it may be too loud. Any thoughts or comparisons on this? Thanks!
Exhaust will sound better when you can rev to redline.
Love your videos, had the same issue with the driver side mirror whistling, it is the PPF on the mirror, remove it and it will go away
Interesting….
Duuuuuude. It looks great! Mine will be here next week.
FYI the 18 ways are 60’ish lbs (each) heavier than a LWBS.
For sure they’re heavier and I believe combined they add another 60 lbs over the 4 ways. This was part of the calculus in my decision making but as I shared in the vid the car is better for it, at least in my use case.
You are odd dude, but that’s ok that’s part of the fun. My buddy just got 2024 911S but I still love my 2014 991.1 S cabriolet N/A top down the sound smokes all the turbo’s for me
lol yep
I have a black Carrera T on order. 4/24 delivery..🤩 I plan to keep my 2016 981 Cayman.
You’re gonna love it
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Thanks for the review!
The first shots of it coming out the truck i though, what a bizarre paint speck ,then realized they were paint protection 😅😅
Did not know about the buffeting. Does sound like a vacuum cleaner, but I’d drive the hell out of it!
Amen
Could you please clarify the break In period? I have a new GTS 4.0 Boxster with 1200 miles and I have accidentally PDK down shifts touched 5k rpm couple of times. should I do an oil change at the end of the break in? One year service will be July 31 of 24. Im a new sub. Thank you.
1800 miles not over 4,000 rpm. Cant recall oil change. You’re fine, these motors are robust
Great review, thank you. Could you share a link for the anti-buffeting window triangles? Cheers.
awe-tuning.com/products/awe-foiler-wind-diffuser-for-porsche-992
I had a BMW that was much faster than 987 Boxster S but I had no connection with it. I miss my Boxster S. It was just a great car and a lot of fun.
it's 911, period. enjoy and be safe!
What's the break in period???
I wish you could order the T with the aero cup body kit.
Congrats and great video. Just wondering the reason behind the trade (S for the T)...normally is the opposite!!!I am in the market for both but not sure which to go....so far I am more for the S but after this video I am lost again 😂
This might help you understand: ruclips.net/video/skaCpfDCgqo/видео.htmlsi=jjhPwT-mxgAfxmde
I love the T’s driver-orientation. Plus I wanted something more special and the opportunity to build my own was something I just couldn’t pass up.
I am expecting my Carerra S on Feb or March ❤ i can not wait anymore .. i haven't told my wife and kids about it ..hush hush for a great surprise 😊
Congrats!
@@Rennthusiast thx buddy