It just rose to the top of mine, too. I’m still going to test a 2022 Bronson asap, but really, I’m pretty sure I won’t want the 29 on my bike at all - even if it’s just in front. -_-
Yea that oxblood is giving me vampire lust. I'm still on 27.5 at the moment and don't really want to go 29'r so I'm glad companies are still making 650b bikes that rip. Having owned a 2019 Bronson I already know the suspension platform is great. This is at the very top of my list now.
Got a feeling this will age very very well. Both in tech, looks and ride-ability. I feel like tech has matured to the point where this will easily be relevant for years and years.
Totally love it, riding my 2020 Bronson but in rough terrain full of rocks gardens here, I am thinking about this beast. I am just little bit afraid about how difficult will be riding nomad all day in mountains compared with bronson.
Mine is Nomad V-5 CC Oxblood Medium size, DHX2 on trhe rear and FOX 38 180 Shiny Orange on the front..., very nice to ride, more stable on root and more grip on berm...., the Best....!!!!
Oxblood is sick! The Medium has numbers that I teally like. 450mm Reach, the 1225mm WB, 64 Deg HTA, and the 78 deg STA, but I would prefer 5mm longer chainstay. Top Tube length is about 15-20mm shorter than traditional.mediums, but still very doable. Now SC just needs a Mullett Nomad with the same numbers!
Slayer would hit that... but on a side note ... the base model nomad is probably the best bang for the buck... last gen nomad aluminum started out at 4k... if the carbon model starts out at 4k ... thats a steal
I want one! I have an original 2005 Nomad: my 3 kids have all had their time on it growing up. It still rides on with the youngest 14 year old! I would buy the lower spec for cost but would slowly upgrade stuff as parts wear out.
too bad you didn't mentioned the very very interesting fact that you can actually shorten and extend the travel of the bike - at least in theory. the shock has 62.5mm stroke - you can extended it to 65 to get +5/10mm of travel, or shorten it to 60mm to get -5/10. I think that is a great option for different applications - when you shorten it, it will stiffen up a bit and vice versa, go plusher when you extend it. will that also change a bit of the HA, SA, and BB? same goes for growing or losing 2 teeth on the chainring - so a lot of options there. would like to know if that was made on purpose, so you can do this, or is it just a lucky brake for the rider. is it expensive? heck yeah - that's why I ride YT. also, can't really go back to lesser progressive bikes, so I get to save 8.7K's... lol
Just threw a Fox 38 on my 2019 Bronson. Stoked!! Maybe in a couple years I'll get that 2021 Nomad. But I've never trail ridden a 29'er so things might change.
Slayer would hit it Now that I'm done - shame there's no alloy option, hoping that will come next year. The alloy Nomad was good value for the money, and a sweet park rig.
Slayer would hit it! Lol multiple shots fired! Love the humor y’all provide and prefer your reviews since the terrain better translates to what I ride vs Squamish
I have been waiting for this release for months as I am building a new Nomad for 2021. Almost bought the 2020 frame because I was tired of waiting. Damn glad I didn't. 2021 Nomad CC frame in Oxblood order going in now!
@@Trucking_Tom got it from my local shop. Went in and asked them what they had coming and put down a deposit and told them whatever comes first is mine! Can't be to picky this year. Bike is amazing! Hands down the most playful and fun bike I think I've ridden. I've done everything from huge bike park days to chill local laps on it and it handles everything with ease. Highly highly recommended! Will likely be keeping this bike till they drop a new gen
this year i have sold my specialized stumpjumper 2017 carbon to buy some enduro and XC bike. ended up building 2018 Nomad V4 CC with FOX 36 elite,shimano XT 12s+XX1 carbon cranks,XA-elite wheels tubeless,carbon handlebar from NS,shimano saint brakes and few other things for around 2,500$. No need for XC so far after using climb switch on suspension. I'm impresed how this super enduro machine can go up... i do rlly mean that. My previous stumpy (forgot to say that was mullet) couldn't climb half that good with half of SC susp. Also Nomad weight less. But this new nomad should be called V4.5 cuz not that much have changed like V2 vs V3 or V3 vs V4
That color in the sun looks pretty outstanding! The green looks really sweet too. XO1 and XT builds are a little too pricey, looks like xt build doesn't even have carbon wheels. Seems the XO1 carbon wheels are just DT swiss. Too pricey for what your getting on these builds. I wonder about Cascade components creating a link for this?
With the permutations of builds and options, keeping track of pricing can be a bit tricky. Any builds that feature carbon wheels will be Santa Cruz's Reserve rims, with a lifetime warranty. The standard (alloy rim) builds of these bikes are in line with many other brands specs. The $6,199 for the XT build is the same price as Devinici's new Troy XT LTD.
Slayer would hit it! I love this machine. I ride a 2022 V4 S build 5010 in size Large but with Carbon Reserve 30 (DT Swiss Hubs) wheel upgrade I'm the almost same height 1" taller at 5'10" but same 30" inseam as Brad so should I be riding a size Medium in the Nomad and for that matter the 5010? When I bought that bike in October 2021 the medium just left me feeling too cramped? I'm buying a Nomad (X01 AXS Reserve Kit) this week as I hear the 2023 will go mullet and prefer the 27.5 setup. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK Vital MTB WE IN THE UK LOVE YOU GUYS!!!
Not a 27.5 guy but If i did I would probably go with the mach 6. Price wise it's a good value for what you get. It's the lower models in the lineup that are overpriced. Once you hit the 4k mark you shouldn't see a nx drivetrain. Minimum should be gx imo
Interesting proposal. Pivot does not even offer a bike at that price point, they start at $6,000 for GX parts. The comparable X01 Mach 6 is $9,000 and lacks carbon wheels as well as a lesser-expensive (but still good) FOX 36.
@@vitalmtb I was saying that the higher end Santa Cruz is a good price point. It’s their lower tier bikes I think are too high. I talked about the pivot because of the dw which I prefer over vpp. I know pivots aren’t cheap
Well, shit. Was happy with my Nomad 4 & planning on just picking up a 38 Fork for it. Looks like there may be some “Ox Blood” in 2021. Great work guys. Where were you riding? Looks a bit like Utah.
yeah, the santa cruz bike developers said they played around w/ mullet on this bike, but the need for a 150mm 29er fork to keep geometry in check didn't seem worth it.
slayer would hit it.. but dope bike very well put together review but how does one pick from a sea of the same what makes S.C, Canyon, Polygon, Cannondale, Evil, and Alchemy bikes Differ? i have a Cannondale Trail Two Hard Tail Looking to upgrade in the spring.
that's the question we all face. so many bikes are so good, you almost can't go wrong these days (aside from any customer service issues that could come up). availability may be your biggest decision-maker.
Yet it has nifty features for ease of maintenance such as tube in tube, but nothing makes it stand out such as in frame storage. SC is getting long in the tooth as the majority of good brands get the same features. I love my Hightower V2, but I wish I bought the Specialized Enduro.
So, geometry wise, what're the differences between the new one vs the old Nomad 4? I have a Nomad 4 CC but if the new changes are worth it, I might get the frame-only option and swap all my stuff.
head angles are about a 1-degree slacker, reaches are longer across the board (10mm longer on our medium), seat angles are about 3 to 4 degrees steeper. seat tubes are shorter and chainstay lengths are size specific.
This is an awesome bike and I'd absolutely love one because mountain biking is so good for your mental health amongst other things, but let's be honest most people can't even afford to spend $8,000 on a car these days let alone a bicycle. Most decent mountain bikes are slowly creeping further and further away from the average Joe in terms of affordability. I can only hope I win the lottery!
I dont understand how santa cruz is coming out with new bikes when they cant fulfill the orders for the current bikes? I ordered a hightower the first week of june and just got it 3 days ago. Most manufactures are saying they cannot deliver bikes till the middle of next year, how is SC going to deliver these? What about all the bikes that have been ordered months ago that they cant deliver?
Mad price - not a review for the mortal human being. Not only do you have to pay a ridiculous amount of money for a bike like this but go into massive debt to purchase a cabin near mountains where the money you spent on your brand new Nomad will be worth your while only to be surprised in 2022 that your investment was shite when the newest model comes out along with its stunning review videos. No thank you!
I can't trust any reviews on big bikes from vital because their terrain just looks so mellow. Honestly everything they ride looks like it would be better on a 125 trail bike.
Hey guys, just clarifying what you mentioned about the dropper post. Is it possible to run a 175mm post on on a medium and have it slammed to the collar?
That a beautiful bike but is it worth the money? I’m not sure! All the big brands are pushing prices up Over eight an a half grand! For something you have to pedal yourself,That price is MOTO X bike pricing!! Think about that!!!
Oxblood Red or Green and Pink?
Timestamps
0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Nomad Weight
1:52 - Nomad Frame Details & Geometry
2:44 - Nomad Frame Refinements
3:49 - Models and Prices
5:08 - Ride Impressions
7:26 - Coil or Air Shock?
9:35 - Longer Dropper Would Be Nice
10:22 - Conclusion
Oxblood Red for sure
Red obviously.
I will get it in Green featuring the pink sc letters its perfect and not so boring like darker colours
@@bfranco1519 düd düd thats just weird
I got the Adler green and magenta. But to be honest I regret not getting the oxblood one.
“Where does the nomad preform best”
“Yes”
Best for homeless nomadic individuals
i love when bike company's release new bikes that don't change that much from the previous version because you can find killer deals on the last gen
It just rose to the top of mine, too. I’m still going to test a 2022 Bronson asap, but really, I’m pretty sure I won’t want the 29 on my bike at all - even if it’s just in front. -_-
Yea that oxblood is giving me vampire lust. I'm still on 27.5 at the moment and don't really want to go 29'r so I'm glad companies are still making 650b bikes that rip. Having owned a 2019 Bronson I already know the suspension platform is great. This is at the very top of my list now.
JUST as I was getting stoked to see you’d include an “S” build review, ya cut me short. 😂
Got a feeling this will age very very well. Both in tech, looks and ride-ability. I feel like tech has matured to the point where this will easily be relevant for years and years.
First non ebike review to watch in over a year. Do i miss my nomad. Yes it was great. but..... its BULLIT TIME!!!
heck yes to the bullit! ruclips.net/video/-n2mtGge5tM/видео.html
And that geo is so perfect on the large. Maybe a slightly longer chain stay would be cool.
Yea, every time I test an $8k+ bike it's always been pretty good.
freaky
Totally love it, riding my 2020 Bronson but in rough terrain full of rocks gardens here, I am thinking about this beast. I am just little bit afraid about how difficult will be riding nomad all day in mountains compared with bronson.
Been loving my Nomad(s) for over a decade. It does everything, one amazing bike and well worth it.
Slayer would DEF hit it, waiting on the next production run for this cc frame in this colorway 😉
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I still love the canyon torque, good value of money and it's a beast on any kind of trails.
Mine is Nomad V-5 CC Oxblood Medium size, DHX2 on trhe rear and FOX 38 180 Shiny Orange on the front..., very nice to ride, more stable on root and more grip on berm...., the Best....!!!!
Oxblood is sick! The Medium has numbers that I teally like. 450mm Reach, the 1225mm WB, 64 Deg HTA, and the 78 deg STA, but I would prefer 5mm longer chainstay. Top Tube length is about 15-20mm shorter than traditional.mediums, but still very doable. Now SC just needs a Mullett Nomad with the same numbers!
So what your height, bro?
Slayer would hit that... but on a side note ... the base model nomad is probably the best bang for the buck... last gen nomad aluminum started out at 4k... if the carbon model starts out at 4k ... thats a steal
Those 27.5 long travel playful bikes are the best for me ...
I own a Nomad V5 oxblood, and have watched this video more times than I care to admit.
I want one! I have an original 2005 Nomad: my 3 kids have all had their time on it growing up. It still rides on with the youngest 14 year old!
I would buy the lower spec for cost but would slowly upgrade stuff as parts wear out.
that's awesome!
As if the Nomad doesnt need anymore spice? You guys even made it even more Tasty!!! I can taste how delicious how bike is. Good Job Brothers!!!
too bad you didn't mentioned the very very interesting fact that you can actually shorten and extend the travel of the bike - at least in theory.
the shock has 62.5mm stroke - you can extended it to 65 to get +5/10mm of travel, or shorten it to 60mm to get -5/10. I think that is a great option for different applications - when you shorten it, it will stiffen up a bit and vice versa, go plusher when you extend it. will that also change a bit of the HA, SA, and BB? same goes for growing or losing 2 teeth on the chainring - so a lot of options there.
would like to know if that was made on purpose, so you can do this, or is it just a lucky brake for the rider.
is it expensive? heck yeah - that's why I ride YT.
also, can't really go back to lesser progressive bikes, so I get to save 8.7K's...
lol
I'm glad seeing not all the bike manufacturs consider 27,5 dead. Well, now I have a reason to save money and get a nomad ahahah
Just threw a Fox 38 on my 2019 Bronson. Stoked!! Maybe in a couple years I'll get that 2021 Nomad. But I've never trail ridden a 29'er so things might change.
Slayer would hit it
Now that I'm done - shame there's no alloy option, hoping that will come next year. The alloy Nomad was good value for the money, and a sweet park rig.
I purchase an oxblood Nomad C S and its absolutely brilliant; a true do-it-all bike!
The life time pivot bearings replacement joke is so funny😊
Slayer would crash it! Love the Boise riding footage, sweet vid.
Slayer would hit it! Lol multiple shots fired! Love the humor y’all provide and prefer your reviews since the terrain better translates to what I ride vs Squamish
Amazing audio quality on those intros/outros.
just literally bought this today i love it!
And im still rocking my Nomad 2 I built in 2009.
keep it rocking!
I have been waiting for this release for months as I am building a new Nomad for 2021. Almost bought the 2020 frame because I was tired of waiting. Damn glad I didn't. 2021 Nomad CC frame in Oxblood order going in now!
Did you get it? How is it?
@@Trucking_Tom got it from my local shop. Went in and asked them what they had coming and put down a deposit and told them whatever comes first is mine!
Can't be to picky this year.
Bike is amazing! Hands down the most playful and fun bike I think I've ridden. I've done everything from huge bike park days to chill local laps on it and it handles everything with ease. Highly highly recommended! Will likely be keeping this bike till they drop a new gen
@@freerideinkmtb2420 sounds awesome bud! Glad you managed to get your hands on one! Gonna have to be my next bike I think
slayer would DEFINITELY hit it
this year i have sold my specialized stumpjumper 2017 carbon to buy some enduro and XC bike. ended up building 2018 Nomad V4 CC with FOX 36 elite,shimano XT 12s+XX1 carbon cranks,XA-elite wheels tubeless,carbon handlebar from NS,shimano saint brakes and few other things for around 2,500$. No need for XC so far after using climb switch on suspension. I'm impresed how this super enduro machine can go up... i do rlly mean that. My previous stumpy (forgot to say that was mullet) couldn't climb half that good with half of SC susp. Also Nomad weight less. But this new nomad should be called V4.5 cuz not that much have changed like V2 vs V3 or V3 vs V4
I had N2, N3, just sold my N4, its time for V to strike back
My only full sus bike is still a 2018 Nomad V4. Until SC comes out with radical Improvement, I am not spending another $$$$ on a full sus bike.
That color in the sun looks pretty outstanding! The green looks really sweet too. XO1 and XT builds are a little too pricey, looks like xt build doesn't even have carbon wheels. Seems the XO1 carbon wheels are just DT swiss. Too pricey for what your getting on these builds. I wonder about Cascade components creating a link for this?
With the permutations of builds and options, keeping track of pricing can be a bit tricky.
Any builds that feature carbon wheels will be Santa Cruz's Reserve rims, with a lifetime warranty. The standard (alloy rim) builds of these bikes are in line with many other brands specs. The $6,199 for the XT build is the same price as Devinici's new Troy XT LTD.
Slayer would hit it! I love this machine. I ride a 2022 V4 S build 5010 in size Large but with Carbon Reserve 30 (DT Swiss Hubs) wheel upgrade I'm the almost same height 1" taller at 5'10" but same 30" inseam as Brad so should I be riding a size Medium in the Nomad and for that matter the 5010? When I bought that bike in October 2021 the medium just left me feeling too cramped? I'm buying a Nomad (X01 AXS Reserve Kit) this week as I hear the 2023 will go mullet and prefer the 27.5 setup. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK Vital MTB WE IN THE UK LOVE YOU GUYS!!!
You should do another long travel 27.5/28er test again, nobody does it quite as well as vital!
Looking forward to getting it! The XT version that is, I refuse to spend more than 7 on a bike
Slayer would hit it. Just sold my v4 going to pick up a v5 before next season
Good time in school with this vid
yessir!
Your 2010 Nomad still had a triple chainring?! My 2004 Santa Cruz Blur 4X had a single up front!
Edit: Slayer would hit it
that was stock for the bike!!! and let's be clear, i'm no mark weir HAHA. blur 4x, the original kick-ass trail bike.
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Called it! Beautiful bike 😍
hopefully they increase the reach next gen. also 32lb is light as my 18 carbon nomad was 36
7:54 this had me stressing out
Hi Guys, witch pants is wearing the rider in black? AF?? which brand please? For the rest Nomad is top!!
You should bring back the old 2010 design or 2013 design
Slayer would hit it
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Sounds like a Nomad vs Magatower comparison is in order🤙🏼
Not a 27.5 guy but If i did I would probably go with the mach 6. Price wise it's a good value for what you get. It's the lower models in the lineup that are overpriced. Once you hit the 4k mark you shouldn't see a nx drivetrain. Minimum should be gx imo
Interesting proposal. Pivot does not even offer a bike at that price point, they start at $6,000 for GX parts. The comparable X01 Mach 6 is $9,000 and lacks carbon wheels as well as a lesser-expensive (but still good) FOX 36.
@@vitalmtb I was saying that the higher end Santa Cruz is a good price point. It’s their lower tier bikes I think are too high. I talked about the pivot because of the dw which I prefer over vpp. I know pivots aren’t cheap
Well, shit. Was happy with my Nomad 4 & planning on just picking up a 38 Fork for it. Looks like there may be some “Ox Blood” in 2021. Great work guys. Where were you riding? Looks a bit like Utah.
Well since the Mullet thing is so hyped i was expecting brands marketing steering towards releasing mulletbikes like crazy, NOT yet iguess.
yeah, the santa cruz bike developers said they played around w/ mullet on this bike, but the need for a 150mm 29er fork to keep geometry in check didn't seem worth it.
slayer would hit it.. but dope bike very well put together review but how does one pick from a sea of the same what makes S.C, Canyon, Polygon, Cannondale, Evil, and Alchemy bikes Differ? i have a Cannondale Trail Two Hard Tail Looking to upgrade in the spring.
that's the question we all face. so many bikes are so good, you almost can't go wrong these days (aside from any customer service issues that could come up). availability may be your biggest decision-maker.
Yet it has nifty features for ease of maintenance such as tube in tube, but nothing makes it stand out such as in frame storage. SC is getting long in the tooth as the majority of good brands get the same features. I love my Hightower V2, but I wish I bought the Specialized Enduro.
So, geometry wise, what're the differences between the new one vs the old Nomad 4?
I have a Nomad 4 CC but if the new changes are worth it, I might get the frame-only option and swap all my stuff.
head angles are about a 1-degree slacker, reaches are longer across the board (10mm longer on our medium), seat angles are about 3 to 4 degrees steeper. seat tubes are shorter and chainstay lengths are size specific.
This is an awesome bike and I'd absolutely love one because mountain biking is so good for your mental health amongst other things, but let's be honest most people can't even afford to spend $8,000 on a car these days let alone a bicycle. Most decent mountain bikes are slowly creeping further and further away from the average Joe in terms of affordability. I can only hope I win the lottery!
check out our $2,000 MTB shootout ruclips.net/video/DSYwTlth1oc/видео.html a lot of great bikes at good prices.
@@vitalmtb hey thanks for the info on that! much appreciated and your channel is superb! I'll take a look 👍
Slayer would hit it. 😂 How tough is the carbon, tough enough to to take a few rock strikes or is a vinyl coat adviced?
New to the channel, I don't know who slayer is, but apparently he will hit it :-)
Nuke proof mega 290 Review please!!!!
Yeah awesome bike,ETA for delivery? 2022?
I ordered myself the x01 CC reserve last month, just hope it will be here by August 😩
You wouldn’t think its that hard to order a top build bike. Lol
Exceptional video as always
I have a nomad cc xo1 reserve and it retails for$9599.
I dont understand how santa cruz is coming out with new bikes when they cant fulfill the orders for the current bikes? I ordered a hightower the first week of june and just got it 3 days ago. Most manufactures are saying they cannot deliver bikes till the middle of next year, how is SC going to deliver these? What about all the bikes that have been ordered months ago that they cant deliver?
Slayer would hit it Philippines I love Santa Cruz Bike!❤️🎊
I just got this bike today!😁
I have one really starting to love it
I have a 12 nomad carbon and have been drooling over the new ones. Is it worth upgrading?
Awesome bike! Is it a better climber than a Megatower ? Also, this or the Slash for an all rounder, versatile long travel?
Good job guys, keep up?
Strange the fork crown is backwards.
Still have a 2015 Nomad. Can't imagine upgrading to anything else. Slayer would hit it.
just bought a PUSH Eleven Six rear coil for my xo1 reserve kit, talk about expensive lol
Slayer would. Hit it!
Gonna miss 27.5 bikes when they are gone
Did Brad feel the need to upsize to a Large?
Awesome bike!
Santa Cruz is like Louis Vuitton, you mostly pay for the name and the attention you get.
What size bike is he using also how tall is he for a rough size guide
Mad price - not a review for the mortal human being. Not only do you have to pay a ridiculous amount of money for a bike like this but go into massive debt to purchase a cabin near mountains where the money you spent on your brand new Nomad will be worth your while only to be surprised in 2022 that your investment was shite when the newest model comes out along with its stunning review videos. No thank you!
I wonder how it compares to Nukeproof Mega & Giga?
Una joya en detalles , un abrazo desde Perú
Not a fan of that colour but love a 27.5 beast! Only the price is... Prohibitive!
Micael Pereira how can you not like the color? It’s so cool
@@elifalatko1005 personal preferences
I can't trust any reviews on big bikes from vital because their terrain just looks so mellow. Honestly everything they ride looks like it would be better on a 125 trail bike.
Hey guys, just clarifying what you mentioned about the dropper post. Is it possible to run a 175mm post on on a medium and have it slammed to the collar?
Is the Decal Colore realy gold or more Kashima ?
Can i combine 160 travel fork to NV5?
My personal feeling??? Uuuuuuhhhh i F****** want one!
@1:00 dude, are you rocking sandles with socks?!?!
Imagine putting one dem phantom engines on it......
Slayer would hit it. She's a beaut.
Are you planning to review marin alpine trail this year?
That a beautiful bike but is it worth the money?
I’m not sure!
All the big brands are pushing prices up
Over eight an a half grand! For something you have to pedal yourself,That price is MOTO X bike pricing!! Think about that!!!
How does is compare to the Norco Shore?
Slayer would hit it!
Big fan brø 😍🙀 it's really really good bïkë 🥰
Here are my thoughts: 🤤 Take my money Santa Cruz.
Santa Cruz launches new bike. Man looks at current stable to see which he will miss the least.
Verry nice bike... Hope soon i have that a bike her in the Philippines... Only rich can afford but poor like can't buy😢 😀😁
I love 27.5
Sorry to say ...but ibis mojo is one of the best bike ever made.
I put cash down after this video, I bought ☝️ one