"If you're not an artist, don't expect the computer to do it for you, because the computer does nothing. It's a tool." words I remembered through my entire career in VFX
The huge misconception on LOTS of people (those not involved in the film industry) is they ignorantly assume the computer does all the work, like it's all automated.
@Hi How Are You? that is a case by case basis i belive for live action sets it better to keep CGI limited but if youre using all bluescreen n stuff its better with CGI the hard part is to be able to merge and make the light fall the same way in the computer as it does on the live action stuff its the most important thing when it comes to make it seem real.
@Hi How Are You? But its different theres good CGI and bad CGI for things you simply cant do with puppets forced perspective and live special effects, dont get me wrong you can do anything using molds and stopmotion but in some cases it makes more sense to use CGI my issue is when they use it just because its cheaper, you can produce a full feature just using a green screen, actors and a camera. Imo the big movie industry should if possible use as much live special effects and locations because thats what they have the money for. Its pretty sad to see that most movies now just CGI the entirety of manhattan because thats cheaper than filming on location. Look terminator 2 is basically the textbook example of when and when its not appropriate to use CGI and i think most moviemakers should have cgi limited because the more gci used the less timeless the movie will be, starwars ep 4 to 6 vs 1 to 3 is a good example of that because ep 1 to 3 will always be a product of its era because the CGI just gets outdated with the times. T2 kept it so subtile that it surpasses the uncanney valley and moves on with the times the effects are really just as good a movie made today so limited but super high quality CGI is still good and will move with the times.
@Hi How Are You? Too much CGI is stupid and looks cartoony. There needs to be a combination of CGI and props. Until, CGI is indistinguishable from the real thing.
T2 had it all: Amazing story Amazing cast&acting Amazing concept Amazing music Amazing color grading This movie is untouchable, there will be never a movie with this level of perfection and creativity
To this day, I still think this period was and is still the most wondrous period in the history of ILM and all those who were involved in the making of this film. Seeing the greats like Winston and Muren talk about what it all took is just amazing.
Watching movies these days you expect CGI like this. But being young and seeing T2 or JP in theaters blew my mind. The effects, the story and the score were insane! A feeling kids these days probably won't ever experience.
The Matrix had great CGI, Jurassic Park also had fantastic effects, but it all started right *here* with this masterpiece! This was the turning point, the godfather of all those others! And it's not just the FX, the whole movie works very well.
@@dharkbizkit I am referring to the use of practical effects like the terminator models, etc. The 2019 film is banking off of the Cameron name only rather than actually keeping the story grounded like the first 2. I highly doubt it will be horror-esque like those.
@Important person commenting Exactly! I wish there was like 2-3 years for people to get their shit together and US the viewers to catch up on all we missed, there's like a 1ooo films made per year!
T2's VFX and Story were better. I almost fell asleep during the trailer of "Dark Fate". They couldn't even come up with a good title for it, could have called it Terminator: Bad Ending, Terminator: Name that fits the events which the audience already know the story is about based on previous film but has to sound clever to impress studio execs when pitched to them.
That they shot backgrounds deciding on camera positions and lighting and so on ahead of time and could just drop that into the finished product is brilliant artistry, superb planning, the level of skill to pull a thing like that off is actually astounding.
If done realistically and accurate it works well, However today, films over do CG hugely and so inaccurately it makes for rubbish viewing. Take note film makers of today we want better story telling and don't relay on Cg to much.
Yeah I agree, it's suppose to enhance a story not take centre stage of it and I suspect it's going to be used a lot more which is good if used correctly and the story takes centre stage not the special effects.
The Visual Effects of Computer Graphic Animation is a new animated event that passed the torch of Stop Motion Animation. Especially with Young Sherlock Holmes, The Abyss & T2 “Terminator 2” It was a start for really bringing Dinosaurs to life in Jurassic Park from 1993. Then 2 years later came Jumanji being far more complex.
rare when a sequel is better than the original. Love the movie and love the soundtrack. T2 was actually the first CD I bought when I finally jumped on the CD train...back then they had the big ass long boxes.
I remember seeing T2 the first time in theater and trying to figure out which was the villain since the T800 was evil in the first one. What young kid didn't cry at the end. That's crazy, we were crying at the loss of a character who was a killing machine in T1.
What people don't realize about Avatar is he made a virtual camera that plots real-time CG motion capture. James Cameron is an innovator when it comes to storytelling. He's been homeless, a truck driver, a janitor, a b-movie 2nd unit director, and he is a director I truly aspire to be. At the end of the day- it isn't about the CG - it's about telling your story in exciting, new, and interesting ways.
@Disney is the Devil Once these directors get past their prime they seem to be given these new big money projects on the merit of their name alone, then inevitably they go overboard and fuck it all up, Peter Jackson went the same way trying to be too clever with the Hobbit films, 48 FPS never again.
For me. T1 and T2 are the ONLY canonical Terminator films. Go hand in hand. Fucking perfection. Hope Dark Fate gets the series back on track but I got a feeling it’ll be another dud :(
All these same ILM people got their start making Star Wars happen for George Lucas. From Doug Chiang, Ryan Church, and the artists in the conceptual imagery department to the original stop motion animators Dennis Muren and John Berg, and of course John Knoll at the fledgling computer animation dept, who started at ILM after A New Hope and has since become an industry legend, I mean, he and his brother literally invented Adobe Photoshop. (Impressive, indeed.) John Knoll is largely credited with inventing the technology that most filmmakers today need in order to tell their respective stories, not to mention he happens to be the guy who came to the Lucasfilm Story Group with the original idea for, "Rogue One; A Star Wars Story," which, love it or hate it, expands our beloved Star Wars Universe of content even further, while simultaneously closing one of the most infamous, "plot holes," in cinematic history. Then, there's John Dykstra, who invented the motion control camera technology that enables all of our favorite space battles, and is even being used today to film segments of the Mandalorian. But, I've always been particularly partial to artists like Doug Chiang and Ryan Church, who have worked with Lucasfilm, (amongst many other production companies,) since the prequel trilogy, and still head up the ILM concept art department. Their artwork accounts for much of what enables filmmakers to more effectively inspire studios into green lighting their particular projects, and are just as influential to filmmakers, including George Lucas, Stephen Spielberg, and Jim Cameron, as Ralph Mcquarrie was to Lucas' original vision for Star Wars, way back in the day. (Everyone with even a passing interest in the subject should check out Ryan Church"s website, his artwork is photorealistic and will transport you to other distant and beautiful, breathtaking locations full of wonderous creatures, landscapes and technology. He is, by FAR, one of the best modern conceptual artists living.) I haven't even mentioned the myriad inventions they're all responsible for, including the technology leading to the creation of Pixar Animation Studios, and all of the competing Animation Studio companies existing as a direct result. All of their names, collectively, appear in the end credits of more films, up to and including Hollywood blockbusters, than ANY other human beings on the planet. And that's pretty PROFOUNDLY impressive lol if you ask me. 👍😂
Love these making of videos but something about seeing how old these are is depressing..especially when its the first time seeing some of the behind the camera folks and seeing how old they are now. This video was from 2003. I have a weird thing with time passing.
It's hard to imagine the T1000 being bested. The TX would've made sense to come before the T1000 but I'm not complaining. This movie is my favorite, you can almost feel the weather in these scenes if that makes sense, I used to stay in LA and watching this movie makes me imagine being back.
Terminator 2 Judgement Day was such an amazing movie! 🙂 I am so happy to be born in the 90s 🙂. This movie is timeless classic and masterpiece and its awesome special effects of T-1000 😁! The T-1000 was such a eerie and amazing villain and what an unique design and how they have accomplished the special effects is beyond amazing ! 😁
that's the reason James haven't release the abyss movie yet because I highly feel its that with todays CG will be applied frame by frame to make it look realistic with todays technology! I think they will render it more more realistic! what do you guys think?
Exactly! Years ago, even big stars had to keep making movies or they'd run out of money. If we look back to the early 1900s, leading actors could have made 50+ movies before retiring. These days, they can often do just a couple of films, as the leading actor, and retire a rich person.
I know this is one of the best movies ever made...its perfect.But imho T1 is best...dont hate me i love T2 but fist one is ...scary.thats why I love it. By the way,I watched T1 and T2 thousand times :) Arnie is better as bad guy
20:15 "you don't have to have alot of money" 20:20 "you can buy ya know $40 worth of books at a bookstore, and a couple $1000 dollars in programs" I cannot even afford to buy one program let alone a book
@@Ognyan397 I don't agree. He brought 3D to the cinemas. Something I don't like. Most did nothing out of it besides higher cinema prices. But Avatar was mindblowing.
I think cgi has almost become like the story in the terminator films where now the cgi is more important than the actors and story. I wish film would go back to how it was with films like the original JP and T2 where it is only used to push the envelope and not become an exhaustive tool.
@ yeah he's more focused on doing useful things like deep sea exploration, sub design, etc, than saving Hollywood's ass again by making what they can't, great films.
Lol stop reaching. Im a CG artist myself. Dark fate might not be the greatest film ever but the effects are mind blowing and way better than T2. They re created young arnold, linda and furlong and it was almost flawless! The Rev-9 effects were also great.
Because as Jim says here it's because "we used cgi for the hard part" then they would go back to the animatronics and practical effects for other shots
@@Captainsting I saw the trailer, the effects look cool but the trouble is they're not grounded and look obvious....in T2 they feel like a part of the storytelling
Funny that they talk about Photoshop quite a lot but all the computer they show are SGI workstations. That was the standard at that time. Macs were just not fast enough. Painting was probably done in Matador. These computers were pretty cool at the time. Of course now even my phone is faster. How things change...
To badd James Cameron Didn't still think this way when it came to terminator dark fate movie! although I know he was as the executive producer or what not he should of never attached his name to that it definitely sucked It's like he can't figure out any other story to tell when it comes to The Terminator besides terminator goes back in time & is bad terminator goes back in time & is good I wish he could come up with a conclusion and have it be legendary but just doesn't seem like hes on his a game anymore... I think his last great movie was avatar and that's over a decade ago !
He was just the executive producer. He probably wanted to support the people who still want to make Terminator movies. He didn't lend his creative mind to it. There is a difference.
Movie making has changed for good. Even Cameron now with his Avatar movies is good at best, but not legendary. Reaching a new movie threshold isn't going to be happening anytime soon.
The original lawnmower man portrayed VR (exactly as it was back in the 90's, simple shaded poly games that never took off). Many movies of the time did this. Alien 3 wasn't that bad. It just wasn't as good as T2 or JP.
@peterlenham3180 um OK explain to me what the awful scenes at the end where the alien was chasing Ripley around are? Those are cgi. The earlier parts of the movie they used the proper special effects for the alien
@@gb9884 A rod puppet of the Alien was filmed against a bluescreen, then composited into the shots. The shadows of the Alien however were CGI, and that's why it tends to look fake. You can tell they look matted in with the bluescreen puppet work. So even though CGI was used, it wasn't for the alien creature. Putting digital shadows into a scene, and a real puppet was hard to do in 1992, because CGI was still in its infancy, and bluescreen work wasn't totally seamless yet.
"If you're not an artist, don't expect the computer to do it for you, because the computer does nothing. It's a tool." words I remembered through my entire career in VFX
The huge misconception on LOTS of people (those not involved in the film industry) is they ignorantly assume the computer does all the work, like it's all automated.
_"Here's Da Vinci's paint brush. Do you think if I put it in a room with paints and a canvas, it can create a masterpiece?"_
T2 proved that its best using old school practical props as a basis and Cgi as a tool to touch things up.
@Hi How Are You? that is a case by case basis i belive for live action sets it better to keep CGI limited but if youre using all bluescreen n stuff its better with CGI the hard part is to be able to merge and make the light fall the same way in the computer as it does on the live action stuff its the most important thing when it comes to make it seem real.
@Hi How Are You? If that's the case tell what movie have better CGI than T2?
@Hi How Are You? But its different theres good CGI and bad CGI for things you simply cant do with puppets forced perspective and live special effects, dont get me wrong you can do anything using molds and stopmotion but in some cases it makes more sense to use CGI my issue is when they use it just because its cheaper, you can produce a full feature just using a green screen, actors and a camera. Imo the big movie industry should if possible use as much live special effects and locations because thats what they have the money for. Its pretty sad to see that most movies now just CGI the entirety of manhattan because thats cheaper than filming on location. Look terminator 2 is basically the textbook example of when and when its not appropriate to use CGI and i think most moviemakers should have cgi limited because the more gci used the less timeless the movie will be, starwars ep 4 to 6 vs 1 to 3 is a good example of that because ep 1 to 3 will always be a product of its era because the CGI just gets outdated with the times. T2 kept it so subtile that it surpasses the uncanney valley and moves on with the times the effects are really just as good a movie made today so limited but super high quality CGI is still good and will move with the times.
@Hi How Are You? Too much CGI is stupid and looks cartoony. There needs to be a combination of CGI and props. Until, CGI is indistinguishable from the real thing.
@Hi How Are You? It's still more effective to film things practically if possible but now they cut corners and it shows
T2 had it all:
Amazing story
Amazing cast&acting
Amazing concept
Amazing music
Amazing color grading
This movie is untouchable, there will be never a movie with this level of perfection and creativity
Aliens
Whereas lord of the rings is a cgi tech demo at every chance it gets. Also is very closed, it doesn't allow newcomers to it's world.
I personally think that Lord of the rings is the greatest film ever, but t2 is number 2 on my list of greatest movies
-Avatar
-Titanic
-Avatar: The Way Of Water
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@@RicardoGarcia-xz1rz nope
T2 was way ahead of its time
To this day, I still think this period was and is still the most wondrous period in the history of ILM and all those who were involved in the making of this film. Seeing the greats like Winston and Muren talk about what it all took is just amazing.
Watch Jurassic Punk definitely changed my thoughts on Muren somewhat
The birth of the CGI revolution in motion pictures right here, t2 started it all. Absolutely revolutionary and absolutely legendary.
80s and 90s films are the best of all time
Predator, First Blood, T1, Lethal Weapon .. eehh )
Die hard, reservoir dogs, pulp fiction, con air, face off, commando etc wish i had of been born to grow up in that era.
The abyss , tequila sunrise , the last boyscout , marked for death , the negotiator the list goes on
True Romance, Crimson Tide, The Rock, True Lies, Air Force One, Fight Club, The Matrix... the 90s were THE best.
Watching movies these days you expect CGI like this. But being young and seeing T2 or JP in theaters blew my mind. The effects, the story and the score were insane! A feeling kids these days probably won't ever experience.
Well "Interstellar" movie was not bad
The Matrix had great CGI, Jurassic Park also had fantastic effects, but it all started right *here* with this masterpiece! This was the turning point, the godfather of all those others! And it's not just the FX, the whole movie works very well.
Jimmy David And they will never top it or even close to it... sadly..
great cgi?! dude it looked fake when we saw it in the theaters... the story made you ignore it
Modern CGI special effects ACTUALLY started with the movie "The Abyss" also by James Cameron. ☺
even when dune in 1984 was using them? 5 years earlier...
@@narmale Never saw Dune but I do remember when it came out. Can't speak on the effects used in that film.
That moment when effects from 1991 look better than Terminator Dark Fate 2019 -___-
that depends on the effects. and some of the makeup jobs in t2 are very limited. and on badly choosen spots.
@@dharkbizkit I am referring to the use of practical effects like the terminator models, etc. The 2019 film is banking off of the Cameron name only rather than actually keeping the story grounded like the first 2. I highly doubt it will be horror-esque like those.
It doesn't. The CGI looks better but they might not use much practical effects however.
@Important person commenting Exactly! I wish there was like 2-3 years for people to get their shit together and US the viewers to catch up on all we missed, there's like a 1ooo films made per year!
T2's VFX and Story were better. I almost fell asleep during the trailer of "Dark Fate". They couldn't even come up with a good title for it, could have called it Terminator: Bad Ending, Terminator: Name that fits the events which the audience already know the story is about based on previous film but has to sound clever to impress studio execs when pitched to them.
Came here after the dark fate trailer to make myself feel better.
I feel ya buddy. If we suspend our disbelief, we may be able to enjoy Dark Fate. Good luck.
RIP Stan Winston
Sir who is he?
@@sreevivasaraghavan6848 Your daddy
@@sreevivasaraghavan6848 the special effects guy
Terminator 2, Jurassic Park, Spider-Man 2 and The Matrix all have incredible effects that have stood the test of time. 👏🏾
This absolutely hits it home for people getting into filmmaking at any level. Helps to clear your mind for creation.
i was surprised when recently i found out this movie was released in 1991. The cg was that good that i believed it was released in 2000s
Judgement Day T2 the ultimate classic !
T2 and JP changed cinema forever, or at least the sci-fi and action genres.
If T2 was made today it would still be received well
T2 still beats todays movies
Exactly, the best movie I saw in the cinema in 2017 was terminator 2
Depends. The sjws would call it racist because Dyson gets killed.
"a white woman tries to kill a black man!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!"
The PC police would tear it apart. It would be called racist and sexist.
For the time the effects were absolutely amazing! Being able to do a laser scan of their faces back then just crazy.
That they shot backgrounds deciding on camera positions and lighting and so on ahead of time and could just drop that into the finished product is brilliant artistry, superb planning, the level of skill to pull a thing like that off is actually astounding.
James Cameron is a pioneer of movies! His knowledge is insane
Death Becomes Her.
One of my all time personal favorites.
"You pushed me down the stairs"
James Cameron + Stan Winston said it best!... story and character comes first!! The effects are used as a story telling device! Take note Hollywood!
If done realistically and accurate it works well, However today, films over do CG hugely and so inaccurately it makes for rubbish viewing. Take note film makers of today we want better story telling and don't relay on Cg to much.
Yeah I agree, it's suppose to enhance a story not take centre stage of it and I suspect it's going to be used a lot more which is good if used correctly and the story takes centre stage not the special effects.
very true
👍
They certainly are right, T2 film is the precursor of CGI breakthrough.
The Visual Effects of Computer Graphic Animation is a new animated event that passed the torch of Stop Motion Animation. Especially with Young Sherlock Holmes, The Abyss & T2 “Terminator 2” It was a start for really bringing Dinosaurs to life in Jurassic Park from 1993. Then 2 years later came Jumanji being far more complex.
Water weenies are tough and we gotta stay abreast.
-James Cameron
This was an awesome feature! Thanks James
rare when a sequel is better than the original. Love the movie and love the soundtrack. T2 was actually the first CD I bought when I finally jumped on the CD train...back then they had the big ass long boxes.
Different but equally amazing. Much like Alien and Aliens - both differ genre-wise enough for me that I can't name which is better.
I remember seeing T2 the first time in theater and trying to figure out which was the villain since the T800 was evil in the first one. What young kid didn't cry at the end. That's crazy, we were crying at the loss of a character who was a killing machine in T1.
Year 2199: T2 CGI still looks better
14:59 this is what I miss from movies today. What a wise point of view. T2 had it all from the book, and will never dissapoint whenever I watch it.
What people don't realize about Avatar is he made a virtual camera that plots real-time CG motion capture. James Cameron is an innovator when it comes to storytelling. He's been homeless, a truck driver, a janitor, a b-movie 2nd unit director, and he is a director I truly aspire to be. At the end of the day- it isn't about the CG - it's about telling your story in exciting, new, and interesting ways.
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That's not really true, the virtual camera you are talking about is just an evolution of technology that Weta developed for Lord Of the Rings.
@Disney is the Devil Once these directors get past their prime they seem to be given these new big money projects on the merit of their name alone, then inevitably they go overboard and fuck it all up, Peter Jackson went the same way trying to be too clever with the Hobbit films, 48 FPS never again.
@@CraigBickerstaff NAH YOU ARE WRONG
@@ANONYMOUS-tg2tq actually he's right. Gollum's motion capture true started it all.
For me. T1 and T2 are the ONLY canonical Terminator films. Go hand in hand. Fucking perfection. Hope Dark Fate gets the series back on track but I got a feeling it’ll be another dud :(
3 Years Later...an absolute dud.
T2 was amazing because it was an AMAZING movie 1st!
Breakthrough Movie Making alright. Such clever people!
Great movie and great effects ever made of t1 and t2.
6:17 - 6:50 Love how they remastered the 'reboot' OST.
All these same ILM people got their start making Star Wars happen for George Lucas.
From Doug Chiang, Ryan Church, and the artists in the conceptual imagery department to the original stop motion animators Dennis Muren and John Berg, and of course John Knoll at the fledgling computer animation dept, who started at ILM after A New Hope and has since become an industry legend, I mean, he and his brother literally invented Adobe Photoshop. (Impressive, indeed.)
John Knoll is largely credited with inventing the technology that most filmmakers today need in order to tell their respective stories, not to mention he happens to be the guy who came to the Lucasfilm Story Group with the original idea for, "Rogue One; A Star Wars Story," which, love it or hate it, expands our beloved Star Wars Universe of content even further, while simultaneously closing one of the most infamous, "plot holes," in cinematic history.
Then, there's John Dykstra, who invented the motion control camera technology that enables all of our favorite space battles, and is even being used today to film segments of the Mandalorian.
But, I've always been particularly partial to artists like Doug Chiang and Ryan Church, who have worked with Lucasfilm, (amongst many other production companies,) since the prequel trilogy, and still head up the ILM concept art department.
Their artwork accounts for much of what enables filmmakers to more effectively inspire studios into green lighting their particular projects, and are just as influential to filmmakers, including George Lucas, Stephen Spielberg, and Jim Cameron, as Ralph Mcquarrie was to Lucas' original vision for Star Wars, way back in the day.
(Everyone with even a passing interest in the subject should check out Ryan Church"s website, his artwork is photorealistic and will transport you to other distant and beautiful, breathtaking locations full of wonderous creatures, landscapes and technology. He is, by FAR, one of the best modern conceptual artists living.)
I haven't even mentioned the myriad inventions they're all responsible for, including the technology leading to the creation of Pixar Animation Studios, and all of the competing Animation Studio companies existing as a direct result.
All of their names, collectively, appear in the end credits of more films, up to and including Hollywood blockbusters, than ANY other human beings on the planet.
And that's pretty PROFOUNDLY impressive lol if you ask me. 👍😂
Wow, he actually mentions Ray Tracing 25 years before it was a thing.
T2 was better than anticipated even Mr. Cameron would admit that I guess.
Love these making of videos but something about seeing how old these are is depressing..especially when its the first time seeing some of the behind the camera folks and seeing how old they are now. This video was from 2003. I have a weird thing with time passing.
The end credit music, was actually quite good.
It's hard to imagine the T1000 being bested. The TX would've made sense to come before the T1000 but I'm not complaining. This movie is my favorite, you can almost feel the weather in these scenes if that makes sense, I used to stay in LA and watching this movie makes me imagine being back.
I HAVE THE GREATEST RESPECT FOR THIS CREATORS/PEOPLE!!!
T2 best of all time.
T2 effects have aged better than the Gollum scenes
Da Vinci's of our time
T2 was the best special effect that no movie could match until Matrix came into the the game.
The Matrix doesn't even come close to it.
Cameron in 1995: "As long as they put story and characters first, they'll continue to make good films."
Cameron in 2009: *makes Avatar
Cameron in 2019: Produces Dark Fate and comes up with the John Connor idea
Wow they only had 900mb of space!
Ah, the good old days. Before you could just tell the computer in plain English what you wanted to see.
Terminator 2 Judgement Day was such an amazing movie! 🙂 I am so happy to be born in the 90s 🙂. This movie is timeless classic and masterpiece and its awesome special effects of T-1000 😁!
The T-1000 was such a eerie and amazing villain and what an unique design and how they have accomplished the special effects is beyond amazing ! 😁
I got goosebumps when Cameron said they are far away from CG as player in movie industry... Totally aware of their possibilities.
watched it loads of times I love this film
The best CGI effect was on The Scorpion King
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😂😂😂😂
The rocks receding long hair was the best part of scorpion king
And da worst was the mummy returns near the end looked like the rock came from a PS2 video game lol
Props to the person who edited this video.
Jim has raised the bar.
Best visual director and producer!
ILM means learning and knowledge in Arabic...... What a name!
they said LINUX...
19:59 Jackson you overused the CGI in Hobbit. I hated that movie for being fake.
In his defence that whole trilogy was a fucking mess behind the scenes and it was more time restrictions thay fucked him and required shortcuts
Meanwhile Terminator Dark Fate had well over 1000 CGI shots. Less is more people.
The perfect movie.
that's the reason James haven't release the abyss movie yet because I highly feel its that with todays CG will be applied frame by frame to make it look realistic with todays technology! I think they will render it more more realistic! what do you guys think?
Still hoping for Willow 2 the return of Madmartigan
what the hell sound did James make at 16:30
Yeah, yeah.
But when will Hollywood budgets start to come down?
Exactly!
Years ago, even big stars had to keep making movies or they'd run out of money. If we look back to the early 1900s, leading actors could have made 50+ movies before retiring. These days, they can often do just a couple of films, as the leading actor, and retire a rich person.
What kind of graphics card did they have to process something like this ?
I know this is one of the best movies ever made...its perfect.But imho T1 is best...dont hate me i love T2 but fist one is ...scary.thats why I love it.
By the way,I watched T1 and T2 thousand times :)
Arnie is better as bad guy
Love Terminator. The best one is always the next one! Cant get enough of the smash em up robots!
Wrong.
@@rooroo8767 I am right!
Za Z Wrong.
@@rooroo8767 right!
James cameron is a true genius
special effects and cg and cg and special effects...yeah no context but robert patrick still scares the shit out of me in T2
20:15 "you don't have to have alot of money"
20:20 "you can buy ya know $40 worth of books at a bookstore, and a couple $1000 dollars in programs"
I cannot even afford to buy one program let alone a book
Instead of saying "I can't afford them.", ask "HOW can I afford them?".
That's why back in the day people would just pirate the stuff of limewire.
@@MumblingSolipsist yep and large companies and cooperations don't use pirated software otherwise they get caught and pay a big fine
"Jurassic Punk" documentary.
I really hope James Cameron makes a good movie again some day... maybe after he is done with the Avatar stuff...
zapfanzapfan You never know, he might do something interesting with Avatar 2
@@peterjoyfilms Avatar 1 gave audience nothing special!
@@Ognyan397 I don't agree. He brought 3D to the cinemas. Something I don't like. Most did nothing out of it besides higher cinema prices. But Avatar was mindblowing.
Great use of quotes from the movie.
They would be disgusted in genisus and dark fate
I think cgi has almost become like the story in the terminator films where now the cgi is more important than the actors and story. I wish film would go back to how it was with films like the original JP and T2 where it is only used to push the envelope and not become an exhaustive tool.
Totally agree
It looks so cheesy today, but man i remember back in the day when i saw the T2000 walk through those bars in the psych ward.. my jaw was on the floor.
Watchu talkin bout Willis it's Jawdropping even now lol
The effects STILL match ANYTHING today.
15:13 Wise words!!!!
Cameron is a genius.
@ yeah he's more focused on doing useful things like deep sea exploration, sub design, etc, than saving Hollywood's ass again by making what they can't, great films.
RIP stan.
Doesnt matter how good effects there is if there is not a great story and good character storyarc
I still dont understand How and Why does the T1000 effects almost 30 years ago , still look better then this new shit Terminator in Dark Flop
Lol stop reaching. Im a CG artist myself. Dark fate might not be the greatest film ever but the effects are mind blowing and way better than T2. They re created young arnold, linda and furlong and it was almost flawless! The Rev-9 effects were also great.
Because as Jim says here it's because "we used cgi for the hard part" then they would go back to the animatronics and practical effects for other shots
@@Captainsting I saw the trailer, the effects look cool but the trouble is they're not grounded and look obvious....in T2 they feel like a part of the storytelling
Very interesting
Funny that they talk about Photoshop quite a lot but all the computer they show are SGI workstations. That was the standard at that time. Macs were just not fast enough.
Painting was probably done in Matador. These computers were pretty cool at the time. Of course now even my phone is faster. How things change...
guy with white hair looks like tim heidecker
To badd James Cameron Didn't still think this way when it came to terminator dark fate movie! although I know he was as the executive producer or what not he should of never attached his name to that it definitely sucked It's like he can't figure out any other story to tell when it comes to The Terminator besides terminator goes back in time & is bad terminator goes back in time & is good I wish he could come up with a conclusion and have it be legendary but just doesn't seem like hes on his a game anymore... I think his last great movie was avatar and that's over a decade ago !
He was just the executive producer. He probably wanted to support the people who still want to make Terminator movies. He didn't lend his creative mind to it. There is a difference.
Movie making has changed for good. Even Cameron now with his Avatar movies is good at best, but not legendary. Reaching a new movie threshold isn't going to be happening anytime soon.
Alien 3 and the lawnmower man sure messed up their CGI
The original lawnmower man portrayed VR (exactly as it was back in the 90's, simple shaded poly games that never took off). Many movies of the time did this. Alien 3 wasn't that bad. It just wasn't as good as T2 or JP.
Alien 3 didn't use CGI.
@peterlenham3180 um OK explain to me what the awful scenes at the end where the alien was chasing Ripley around are? Those are cgi. The earlier parts of the movie they used the proper special effects for the alien
@@gb9884 A rod puppet of the Alien was filmed against a bluescreen, then composited into the shots. The shadows of the Alien however were CGI, and that's why it tends to look fake. You can tell they look matted in with the bluescreen puppet work. So even though CGI was used, it wasn't for the alien creature. Putting digital shadows into a scene, and a real puppet was hard to do in 1992, because CGI was still in its infancy, and bluescreen work wasn't totally seamless yet.
Thanks for up the uploads (cant access em all - thanks global copyright) _ but the ones i can - Loving it
That's what they do today they let the computer do it most... Most cause Cameron still around
James Cameron = be ready for something you have never seen before.
any one remember westworld with yul brinner a great movie I'm sure James's Cameron took some ideas from the movie
I want to see T2 redone with modern cgi. Keep all the same shots but just clean it up a bit. Tighten it up.
No, it STILL holds up 30 years on.
So much unreleased music playing in the background... Why not release FULL soundtrack? :(
Are they using Softimage?
Then Jackson made the poorly written Hobbit films drenched in fake looking CGI.
Yeah, after making a masterpiece (The Lord of the Rings) he fucked up the Hobbit movies.
SUBBED!
Why do they call James..Jim?
Its always been like that. In the U.S. James are normally always called Jim.