Why the illegal weed market is still thriving in states with legal marijuana
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- The illegal marijuana trade is still going strong, even in a state like California, where pot's been legal for six years. John Blackstone reports on the cost of these illegal operations.
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It is not difficult to grow weed. The plant is NOT worth current prices in most legal states. This bad pricing is due to needless government involvement.
Should cost the same as lettuce.
@@guineapigzed lettuce is healthy tho
You obviously have never grown. Anyone can grow "reggie".
@@guineapigzed should be sold at a farmers market
weed takes months and to grow good weed and in good quantity you need good gardening techniques proper nutrients correct lighting and them you need to know when to start your flowering process. Good weed takes roughly around 6 months depending on strain. not so simple.
Its only “illegal weed” because the government isn’t getting part of the money
Yep
Redneck right
Only because the business class isnt getting the money. Government doesnt exist anymore.
Exactly...smh.. doesn't matter how cheap the "government" allows the price to be, no matter what, the black market will always thrive..just give the ppl the power to do with it what we want...
Weed was only expensive because of the risks involved, now it expensive because of how many people have their hands in other people's pockets.
If you list yourself as a Legal Marijuana user, you aren’t allowed to carry a gun for protection in some states. I’m sure there are other reasons, but not everyone wants to announce to the world that they smoke. They just want to grow it, buy it, smoke it, and go on with their lives.
That’s one good reason…another is that legacy users don’t want to support corporate cannabis…nothing screams I’m just in it for the money when the owner doesn’t even consume their own products.
Neo nazis folks
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Cause legal weed is double the price of illegal weed
Not in Arizona, I stop buying from my black-market guy a year ago when our dispensaries started selling BOGO on 1/2 ounces with a medical license for $100!
False!
@@Nthali193 wake up, I just returned from AZ. I witnessed $20 an 1/8 oz. That is how you rid the black market. Wish your family good luck suing the dealer that laces your flower with fentanyl or spraying hemp with a synthetic. Black market will take short cuts to keep your business as margins crash. Good luck with that risk.
legal weed in the states isn’t federally legally yet so sales on cannabis is taxed heavily. So to compensate and stay in business for you they have to charge ridiculous prices.
Socialism national socialism
It's 100% more expensive when it's legal and the government gets their cut!😉😉😉
Most potential growers can't afford to legally grow cannabis. I don't remember the exact prices but, it's in the hundreds of thousands just to get started. That's one of the reasons illegal weed is easier to grow, however, not as safe as a legal weed.
Is safety the real concern, seriously... or 💰
The upfront costs have remained the same but the return on investment is next to nothing in California. I remember 10-20 years ago the price per pound for a good strain of marijuana was between $2,200 and $3,000 today, Farmers up here in Northern California are lucky to get $500 a pound. I live in Grass Valley, CA and the market is so saturated that some guys had to sacrifice their harvest for as little as $100 a pound. I actually know people that didn't even harvest some of their crop this year because of the costs of hiring trimmers is not worth it. I still grow about 3 plants a year but it's just as a hobby and for personal use. There's no way I can find it equitable to maintain a large grow site anymore.
For the record, all of the long time growers I know in my town do not condone the illegal, clandestine gardens that destroy lands and vital water sources. It's truly sad that the market has collapsed because whether it's illegal or not, the annual marijuana harvest provided a HUGE boost to our local economy.
But they get to use our tax dollars to operate their legal marijuana industry wow
The only way to really know it is safe, is to grow your own. I don't trust the government at all....not when it comes to the almighty dollar.
it was never about weeding out (pun intended) the illegal trade, it was about government getting a (legal) cut of the moolah.
They just need to legalize it in all 50 states!
0:40 Enforcement officers? You mean weaponized tax enforcement right?
lower the price and get rid of the competition.
Easy fix.....legalize federally!!!!! And have REASONABLE taxes!!!! 0_o
I guarantee that the majority of people wouldn't mind paying a reasonable tax, like 8%....20% max.....to be able to walk into a store and pick up some regulated, quality assured, LEGAL weed.
It's a win win for everyone when you don't have stupid high taxes. States get some income, people get their medicine, and free up a lot of jail cells ❤
What's "reasonable taxes"? What's a "reasonable price"? No taxes and free weed? Canada legalized federally and have the same problems. People said the black market would cease and that drug use wouldn't increase and that everything would become so much better. The liars lied.
Doesn't sound like a very smart idea. We have a marijuana free county.
Yeah, by enabling big operations that are able to produce low-cost high-quality weed that also has quality/safety assurance, the black market wouldn't stand a chance, just like alcoholic beverages.
You don’t get to hunt me for forty years then say it’s ok if I give you tax.
The government gets nothing!
@@guineapigzed It has to be regulated, unfortunately. Maybe you are not, but there ARE irresponsible producers who grow their weed or make their cartridges with lethal chemicals, and when bad things happen consumers won't be able to sue anyone.
You can tell when it's a real hippies grow operation, the area is almost spotless.
Yes. I think they took the worst of the worst, to make the average grower look bad. It cuts into government profits. Heaven forbid.
The pie is big enough for all activity. It should be treated more like tomatoes. It’s just cannabis.
tomatoes do not have the side effects, and when was the last time anyone LACED tomatoes with anything to help make it addictive?
@@DaleHartley Your complete ignorance of cannabis is evident and it would likely behoove you to conduct some basic research before offering misinformation with such an inappropriate confidence.
Cannabis laced fentanyl is a myth, and what “side effects” are you concerned with?
@@jamielowell4237 1) I suggest you do your own research. 2) actually it is described as very rare, but not impossible or unheard of.
3) that was only 1 of the things I listed and was cited in one of my follow up posts.
4) Your comment was wrong, your attack on me does not change that, nor does the attempt to cherry pick a rare exception.
Ta
@@DaleHartley 1. Fallaciously regurgitating my suggestion back at me that you learn about the issue before asserting things- is not a resolution for your lack of knowledge.
2. What is described as rare? And if the thing is being described as “rare” what significance does it have to this discussion?
3, What you cited was incorrect- thus my pointing out the exposure of your ignorance. If you have other examples that would help to support your position- why not include them here with whatever accompanying substantiation there may be- instead of stating that you possibly posted useful information somewhere else?
4. You simply stating that I was “wrong” does not invalidate my position. The only “attack” I engaged in was on the bad information you presented. But, if the shoe fits………
Catering to commercial interests and insisting on overly regulating and placing unnecessary costly restrictions on producing and distributing cannabis products- only results con consumers using non-licensed markets. The more cannabis activity takes place openly and consistently- the more opportunity for the truth of its nature to emerge.
@@jamielowell4237 what I cited was rare and I need more info LOLOL I gave like 5 different listings....whatever bud...facts are too much for you, I understand. as I said to another person. You can stay willfully ignorant or you can do your own research, but reality does not care. So live your life bud...but when something happens do not whine about it to the world....the world does not care, anymore then you do about it.
Y’all tax it to much 20 in taxes waste of money illegal ones don’t tax
The taxes are too damn high. Small home sales should be legal.
Taxes and over regulation
Greed Over People
Marijuana was never legalized, it was commercialized. Legalized would give it to the people to do with as they please. Commercialized limits it to only those that have been given permission. Prohibition is still strong here. It is obviously not legal if people are still being hunted for being involved with it.
Because legal weed is expensive.
Lot can be grown cheaply 6$ a bale. If you eliminate the sin tax there would be no illegal growers.
The SIN TAX. That's exactly where it started. George Washington taxed the Moonshiners because they couldn't get their grain to a rail yard on buggies. Just another way to keep the poor man down.
It's legal in my state and I like the fact I can go in the Pot Shop as I call it and buy what I want when I want. Edibles Bud Cartridge lotions candy and I know there's nothing extra that I don't know about and I get the choice between strains.
Yes. When I was a kid, you either "had it" or "didn't have it." Now you may choose a cbd hand lotion, or a specific strain for a specific need. I.e; strawberry cough for cancer patients, Jack Herer for spring cleaning, etc. Love it.
And you know it is not laced with anything...just pure weed
@@DaleHartley exactly
@APirate'sLifeitBe It would depend on where... In Illinois i think you can grow 2 plants a year for personal use. cant speak for other states, but I am sure they post it if you look.
@APirate'sLifeitBe Well that is Illinois...and I have Heard ( lol) of people doing more. The police have mostly given up any type of enforcement except in extreme cases. This really applies to growing it, unless of course your front yard is a Weed Patch lol
But as long you are not causing issues, it is over looked.
its because legal weed is super expensive. i couldnt believe the mark-ups in dispensaries. its seriously like a 2400% mark up
Because the dispensary owner runs the most outrageously overtaxed and regulated business in America - it’s easier to sell AR15 s to the mentally ill…..
Thriving! It’s about to be the biggest market ever. Once the government got involved they’re taxing it so much it’s going to be $400 for an ounce, it’ll be 1999 all over again. Why would I do that when my friends gonna hook me up for 150 to 200 an ounce.
Legacy users don’t want to support corporate greed. Why would I give my money to someone that doesn’t even consume their own product.
@@P2Feener305Weed smokers: Legalize it and put tax on it
They do as you wish and now you cry. They should make it illegal to again and put yall to prison
So it’s only ok for the government to make money off of weed???
That's the whole point
They ALSO make it SAFE to use. Legal weed will not have fentanyl, roach spray, or any other addition which makes it potentially dangerous.
Also, the government only make money off the taxes...It does not sell the weed. It is sold by people that started a legal business to make money.
Do you have powerball? megamillions? it is legal gambling....again safe because you will not have goons coming after you if you lose big time.
One of the MAJOR differences between the vice markets and the legal markets.
@@DaleHartley I'm gonna agree with you. Fentanyl scares the heck out of me. My brother smokes it and I beg him to always buy it legally. Luckily he makes enough money to buy it legally but a lot don't.
@@dianecelento4974 I have a couple of my kids that smell like skunks pretty often... It is legal here, but it did not stop them before. They DO sometimes use the legal method, but still use the dangerous path far to often. Cant control them, just hope they figure it out on their own.
@@DaleHartley I hope so too. It's scary with that fentanyl in Ca.
I'm in Oregon and I don't know anyone under 21, that doesn't just go to a dispensary. If you buy top shelf it's expensive, but weed has so much THC these days, that I prefer the cheaper stuff anyways. You can still find like $60.00 dollar ounces. I think it's mostly weed being shipped out of state
I have went to California, & the dispensaries have told me they close down faster than they can open stores? Sounds like someone is making money on the back end and is trying to make it look like its not.
You can’t regulate something people can just easily do in their spare time, that they’ve been doing for years.. It’s like them saying not to make your own books, you have to go buy someone else’s book that’s similar….
It's like taxing alcohol theft
and on top of that mixing with alcohol, we will get epileptic seizures at a certain age and go through brain surgery
Yea I've been smoking every day and drinking a few times a week for 25 years, I'll give you a call when those seizures kick in so you can recommend the brain surgeon who "fixed" you after your mother dropped you down several flights of stairs.
Legal weed in California isn’t even that expensive. I live in Torrance. I go to a spot $25 for an eighth or $140 for an ounce tax included. 34% THC.
Plus there’s deals and specials and sometimes free stuff each day in a lot of dispensaries
In Ohio it's about 165$ a half Oz in the store for a 35% like garlic cookies. And not even tops.
Insanely expensive...
The prices you’re giving are for low grade Marijuana…
Eighths in NJ are $60-$75 for high grade stuff, but they offer discounts for various reasons (military, teacher, senior citizen, if you are in school, if you have their app, etc.)
It's a $120. and oz in Hawaii from the guy down the street, and he delivers. The gov. can tax my nuts. *FREE THE WEED* and Grow Your Own.
We need lower taxes on legal cannabis in california period. It's been broken since we set it up WAY too greedy and the kicker is we would actually make more money if people didn't have to turn to street weed because they're outpriced by a mile
Yes!
Because why would I pay 3-10x the prices at a dispensary when I can get from my it more conveniently and cheaper from local dealer I’ve known since high school?
And this’ll be the most libertarian thing that also makes 100% sense, deregulate, not tax, and allow anyone to sell it since it allows for fair competition amongst businesses! 🤗
You wanted it legalized and you can't even pay the costs for the legal product to support the businesses and get rid of the black market that you guys promised would be removed? It's almost as if it was a mistake to appeal to these people
Dude what are talking about in calorado I can pay 15 bucks for a pack of 4 100MG. Once it it gets legalized it’s way more cheaper.
@@Gsuneow bunch of Californians who made the move to TX always tell me that I’m CA & CO dispensary prices either skyrocket or they go outta business because they’re losing out money or federally it’s not acknowledged so that state has whatever bs regulations on the suppliers thereby putting the costs on the dispensary
I agree, but I buy THC Vape Cartridges now, they are, SO NICE, and I can’t get them from anybody. So I gotta stick with the dispensaries but I’m happy with it.
@@anacc3257why would I pay expensing prices for something that should cost 1/10th of what it currently does in legal stores? It costs Pennies to produce an ounce of weed
The retail price gap is the thing. These kinds of illegal grows produce poor quality weed. They should not be leaving so big of a .mess; and should at least return the land to it's original state. Most people would RATHER buy legal weed as it is much better. I was for legalization, not realizing just how MUCH they decided to charge for taxes. A little more is FAIR. However, the price hike was HUGE. I was very disappointed and was financially left with choosing a mixture. If you can lower the markup....just a bit; there won't BE a market for poorly grown marijuana. We don't just spread seeds over a field, then harvest them, if you don't meticulously remove males, than the whole area is spoiled. Still for legalization and regulation. Don't be SCALPERS.
Are we United States or Not...smh
The medical marijuana prop 215 program we had in California was a lot better than what we have today, once prop 64 passed for recreational marijuana everything slowly changed for the worst.
Tell us what happened, some examples
I trust my weed man more than the government
I don’t and what if they mix it with fentanyl! You’re really that naive?
you do know weed induces paranoia in some individuals right ;) lolol
@@Zoolama34709 I've been good for 20 years
@@Zoolama34709 what?
And...?
Clean out the garbage please, DEA
Acting like a camp site and snack wrappers are killing the environment " 🤦😆
It cost to much to grow and sell legally"
It’s all about the taxes and so is repaying for a vehicle license, registration, almost every other year just to travel in a personal vehicle. The government takes and takes and takes and takes.
The wisest thing that should be on everyone's mind currently should be to invest in different streams of income that doesn't depend on the govt. Especially with the current economic crisis around the world. This is still a good time to invest in Gold, Silver and digital currencies (BTC,ETH...)
how can I get in touch with Mrs Linda Marie ?
@@jerry-cc1dj The contact info on the comment is correct she's mostly available on what'sAPK
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I believe slowly but surely it may just take time
OF course it is. I said be careful what you wish for as I laughed at all the pot smokers when this was passed because the prices of the good weed would go way up...and taxed. Funny how studies on weed being bad for you are being suppressed at the same time they are criminalizing cigarettes. The games the governments plays to control and tax you.
i m glad people are still smart enough to live free
News flash: weed has been legal in Connecticut for over a year. It goes on sale in dispensaries next month. Everyone already has a connection
We had High Bazaar running last year, thousands of happy smokers served... vendors set up every night somewhere in CT...
I live in a legal med/rec state, and its a whole lot less expensive to buy from a plug as opposed to a dispo. Up to 400 a zip for mids, at best? Nope.
Because not everyone has $10-20 for a single joint
Then they should make it illegal again and put yall in prison
Why would I drive for miles and pay tons of money when the guy down the street is quicker and cheaper?
This is just the start of the money we are going to make off marijuana business legalize it to grow
Just because it's legal in a given state doesn't mean it's something people can do in the open. Not in all states.
It is sickening the damage this illegal drug growing is doing to the enviorment, not to mention the work and clean up that the fish and game has to take care of.
What sickening is the government putting up to a 40% sales tax on a natural plant while not letting you grow it yourself in your home in many states it legal.
Cannabis, also known as marijuana, among other names, is a psychoactive drug from the cannabis plant. Native to Central or South Asia, the cannabis plant has been used as a drug for both recreational and entheogenic purposes and in various traditional medicines for centuries. Tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) is the main psychoactive component of cannabis, which is one of the 483 known compounds in the plant, including at least 65 other cannabinoids, such as cannabidiol (CBD). Cannabis can be used by smoking, vaporizing, within food, or as an extract.
Cannabis has various mental and physical effects, which include euphoria, altered states of mind and sense of time, difficulty concentrating, impaired short-term memory, impaired body movement (balance and fine psychomotor control), relaxation, and an increase in appetite. Onset of effects is felt within minutes when smoked, but may take up to 90 minutes when eaten. The effects last for two to six hours, depending on the amount used. At high doses, mental effects can include anxiety, delusions (including ideas of reference), hallucinations, panic, paranoia, and psychosis. There is a strong relation between cannabis use and the risk of psychosis, though the direction of causality is debated. Physical effects include increased heart rate, difficulty breathing, nausea, and behavioral problems in children whose mothers used cannabis during pregnancy; short-term side effects may also include dry mouth and red eyes. Long-term adverse effects may include addiction, decreased mental ability in those who started regular use as adolescents, chronic coughing, susceptibility to respiratory infections, and cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.
Cannabis is mostly used recreationally or as a medicinal drug, although it may also be used for spiritual purposes. In 2013, between 128 and 232 million people used cannabis (2.7% to 4.9% of the global population between the ages of 15 and 65). It is the most commonly used largely-illegal drug in the world, with the highest use among adults in Zambia, the United States, Canada, and Nigeria, as of 2018.
While cannabis plants have been grown since at least the 3rd millennium BCE, evidence suggests that it was being smoked for psychoactive effects at least 2,500 years ago in the Pamir Mountains, Asia. Since the 14th century, cannabis has been subject to legal restrictions. The possession, use, and cultivation of cannabis has been illegal in most countries since the 20th century. In 2013, Uruguay became the first country to legalize recreational use of cannabis. Other countries to do so are Canada, Georgia, Malta, Mexico, South Africa, and Thailand. In the U.S., the recreational use of cannabis is legalized in 21 states, two territories, and the District of Columbia, though the drug remains federally illegal. In Australia, it is legalized only in the Australian Capital Territory.
Another idea that turned out to be bad.
How is taking water from lake or stream theft?when it's being put back into the ground few yards away.i grew 200 plant in California we collected enough rainwater for everything
Because the stuff they're selling in the stores is hemp and has no psychoactive properties
2:40 nobody goes to mall for weed and everyone paying half as much as they did as kids... missing something?
Ask the Republicans in the states that refuse to legalize it .
I thought it was a free market for all?🙄
The fees dude.
Whats the difference between legal weed and illegal weed? And why are we wasting tax payers money on this still?
Alcoholics are not barred from the second ammendment and weed smokers should not be either.
Taxes and regulation
Saved you 5 minutes
Only he can judge
Legal weed is high cost and low quality. Saved you time.
The market is too high. It's much cheaper on the black market
They have to charge outrageous rates because of the taxes. If not their profit margins would be almost non existent
Its because the rules are dumb. Infact, legal weed there seems to be more expensive than illegal weed.
Cannabis does NOT have to be expensive at all, the price is only high in the illegal market because of supply and demand plus "danger money". If you legalize it, one gram of good cannabis should and can be DIRT CHEAP.
The rules of legal cannabis are ridiculous, plus the prices are high not because of production costs, but because of sheer GREED.
They dont want you to know that.
If you do not want to watch the whole video the answer is over taxation.
Oh wait, wasn't legal weed supposed to eradicate illegal weed etc.?
Dispensaries in California are expanding and multiplying. Cannabis is a native plant and a biological reality that cannot be denied. I would presume that most illegal grows in California are for out-of-state markets where cannabis is still illegal. The cost of legality for consumers is far less expensive than the costs where it remains illegal - I would imagine - not to mention the law enforcement cost consequences. Besides, we’re a government of, by, and for the people. The Creator put it on this Earth for our benefit. I, for one, am grateful to Him.
Using cannabis is less logical minded than alchohol
i know how to fix it but the politicians will still exploit this for there individual advantage
So can't people just grow their own weed?????
Later in the other decade psilocybin might get legalized, which requires a serialised area
It is basic economics. People think at the margin. If the govt is levying all sorts of taxes that jack-up the price then people are going to buy the same good cheaper on the black market dealership. The law of supply and demand will never change.
Cost you four hundred sixty and trulieve 240 outside of trulieve
yeah I only want tax free Marijuana its freedom smoking
I can tell you that in illinois they tax it so hard you pay double for half the amount. Cheaper on the streets without government always stuffing their hands into everyones pockets.
The prices in Illinois were so expensive. Was glad to be able to get it at the store but it was still inaccessible for so many people on a budget.
Because government needs money?
That's why they legalize
The legality of weed does not mean it is easily accessible from dispensaries. The nearest dispensary to my city is 35 min drive so allot of people still buy locally out of convenience apart from price.
What's Just as much the reason is the legal weed is stronger than that weed the legal weed and products are too strong especially for older people
Yep, no taxes and this pot of course goes around the country and especially to the states that are not legal yet. They need to really take the taxes down because they are really high if you get them legally.
medical thc is very low
There will always be greedy people.and then there's the market being pushed by taxation theft are you taxed for growing corn or tomatoes
Nobody thought about what the growers were going to do, or the state government. The consumer doesn't want to be involved. Still the same, once the substance is in the retail stores it's of no consequence.
Just make it actually legal
It is
Worry about meth and leave weed alone
The reason is because of the laws and taxes and it still being illegal on a federal level. As the laws are right now it's not profitable.
To expensive and taxes are to hight
Why do they bother. They could be putting these resources to something constructive live controlling the boarder, cleaning up people that live on the street and getting them jobs and healthcare. Government is all about them getting their share of the money.
Because you aint paying 10 or 12$ for a gram of your finest carrots 🥕😂
No litter in
Or spitting on ground
Dont understand how they say it cost more? I've been getting quarters for $30 bucks and that's never happen with any dealer I know lol..at best they would give me a discount price of $60 GTFOH legal bud is cheaper (Florida)
The concept of payin to much is across the board the way things r goin. N we’ll always take care of ourselves or go broke
Let's just take it from them...let them built and then have the government take it
Trying to protect this land from god given plants
How stupid is government regulating and enforcing laws on a PLANT? Lmao
That’s ok BC the gradual ease allows the market and the tax man to coexist! Let the market sort itself out, just like they did with alcohol! You can still buy moonshine till this day. We have seen this movie before! It works itself out!
yea cuz u cant just by a dime or nickle that wont cover taxes but yur boy will work wit u...uno?