How America Botched Cannabis Legalization | Forbes
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- The legal marijuana industry has seen its profits go up in smoke from overtaxation, overregulation and the federal government's punitive prohibition on pot. Forbes reporter Will Yakowicz travels to the heart of cannabis country-Northern California's Emerald Triangle-to talk with farmers, entrepreneurs, and other key players in the industry about how greed is killing legalized weed.
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0:00 Introduction: Growing Cannabis At A Loss
1:25 Meet The Father Of The Legal Cannabis Industry, Steve DeAngelo
2:54 Licenses, Fundraising & Taxes: Why Growers Are Suffering At The Hands Of CA's Gov't
5:08 How Glass House Brands Plans To Inject 200,000 Pounds Of Product InTo The Market
7:43 Breaking Down The Cost Of Cannabis As Market Value Plummets
8:35 Is Going The Legal Route Worth The Pain?
9:55 Following The Money: Who Is Legalization Hurting Most?
11:36 "Cannabis Is A Small Business Industry...That's What We Need To Focus On"
12:30 Without Equity, Where Do Small Businesses Go?
15:03 Why Most Of California's Cannabis Supply Has No Place In The Legal Market
18:02 The Trials And Tribulations Inside The "Emerald Triangle"
19:50 The Perils Of Regulators Not Understanding The Cannabis Space
21:00 "There's Nowhere To Export To"
22:10 The Fate Of The Legal Industry
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Everyone should be able to drop a seed and watch our tree grow w/o a license w/o taxation w/o any penalties at all. All people deserve to be able to grow their own medicine w/o worry about going to jail.
Amen to that. House Democrats already passed legislation to decriminalize cannabis federally but the Senate has not approved it.
@@brentwalker3300 Just remember decriminalization isn't legalization tho. No matter red or blue the govt loves the tax money from it.
Back in the day, prior to the 60s, I used to hear about pot growing wild like a weed along side the road in the southern u.s., like Texas, Louisiana, and Alabama for instance. Now that it's legal where is the legal wild and natural weed?
@@counterflow5719 It was all cut down for the most part so people would forget about it. Back in the day those invested in timber didn't want it around for fear it would destroy their profits. The powers that be don't want use to have a plant with mutli purposes but rather to depend on them for everything we need.
What about the poppy plant?
It's not just weed, it's every single consumer product out there. Cottage industry just can't compete with the Walmarts and IKEAs of this world. This video makes it look like the problem is just about Cannabis. It's a much larger issue than just that.
A issue with capitalism.
Not a problem with capitalism but honest regulation, we don’t pass laws unless donations are made. Much like religions.
@@HnH1369 We'd have more democracy and honesty in government without capitalism.
@@firstlast-cs6eg how? It would become more corrupt if anything with the lack of competition and lack of incentives to competition.
@@HnH1369 sorry, greed is built into capitalism. Not a bug, a feature. Capitalism actually rewards greed, so the greedier you are, the more profitable you will be. Too much regulation is obviously a problem, but to say it shouldn't be regulated is nonsense.
I live Arizona, I am a medical patient but if I wasn't I could still just go down to the store. That's the way it should be for everybody in every state in the union.
Agreed but I also would like to see people able to get an opiate that doesn't drop them dead on the streets like the tranq dope does in kensington, philly.
Feel sorry for all the OG growers who endured jail, fines, mountain treks, helicopters & violent competitors only to be forced to compete in an arguably worse environment.
I am looking for someone to invest in the marijuana business with me am from St Lucia in the Caribbean
OG😎. Appreciate it brother✊
@@gibbonholder3274 bro i'm ngl this is probably the worst video you could've picked to advertise investing in a weed business.
Don't feel sorry for us. We got paid.
Perfect example of the mean core nature of the free market. Rich people will have the wealth to support an industry that produces such a quantity at a low cost that can lower the selling price, while small farmers will fall in the seducing trap to become big, meanwhile struggling to pay the bills. And with no other choice, will go to the black market or die. The economic free market system is based on an alien to the planet predator mindset, that brings our society out of the harmony that allows on our planet to balance the life of all and everything. A very easy way out is to limit the amount of land a producer can have. It would be basically bring to a local scale the market and cut of the possibility to the big fish to eat the small fish. Anyway the problem looks unsolvable because the law makers are those that have more power when the solution would be to fragment that power and localise it... unless a new harmonizing force that we yet don't know, takes over, Which is a wild hope in our times, but the only one that can be found using rational thinking.
The problem with my states legalization is that the state created its own cartel, charging high prices, and a high tax. Making laws even more harsh and conflicting than they were, to discourage people from growing it.
So, the black market thrives, and it's half price of dispensary prices. It's ridiculous.
people need the freedom to grow their own, but government is all about control and taxation :/
Fight fire with fire.
If someone wants to come after me or my medicine, my Bitcoin or my existence as a fully functioning stable intelligent adult capable of surviving on my own with needless gov "assistance" watching over us like kids, anyone who wants to play games, here's one it's called violence, Kxll people. Fk centralized banks, centralized gov and centralized corporations.
De Centralized your mind
De Centralized your life.
People need to learn to stay the F out of other peoples business, live their lives and learn to keep quiet and shut the F up before they too wind up dead, crushed under the ignorance of their own actions. Society is crumbling, scary, society is trash. THE STRONG / WISE / CLEVER WILL ALWAYS SURVIVE. Speak softly and continue to DeFi.
You must be from Illinois.
We have broke records with the amount of taxes they've collected.
Yet the roads are still absoult trash, and the kids seem to be getting dumber by the minute.
Worst part is.
The states that have legal medical, don't get to conduct any substantial research on marijuana.
"The whicha why"
Because the feds still have it listed as a schedule one narcotic.
"No medicinal Properties"
Even though, they themselves awarded a patent for marinol in 1985 for people taking chemotherapy.
In the end, we're simply feeding the greedy pigs.
Btw, case anyone wondering,
I live in Seattle.
@@westcoastadventurers8504 My nefew was in Portland.
He said he could buy outdoor grown ounces in a store for 60.00
In Illinois, it's all indoor.
We have to pay over 300.00
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They will charge 60.00 for B.S. shake here.
Me and my friends predicted (55 years ago) that if weed was ever legalized, corporate farms would dominate the industry.
Lol well that wasnt a hard one to call. But you mighta been the first lol
Uh yeah That’s called capitalism buddy
corporate farms dont dominate the industry, they are losing money the fastest. they grow at scale but... they grow boof at scale 😂
It always was unless you were doing it yourself
@@lloydharris651 a state restricting free market process by way of regulation and state owned monopoly, is called socialism.
Clearly identifying over-taxation and over-regulation as how government botched the legalization of cannabis, why would Forbes not show us the politicians and bureaucrats who caused this disaster? How can we fix a problem if we cannot see who caused it?
Any group photo of any federal employees going back the last eighty years
Forbes has a pro-business rather than a pro-consumer or pro-government agenda. They want deregulation and lower taxes. What that will do is create monopolies, hurt the consumer with higher prices, and deprive the government of a much-needed revenue stream.
What did they expect in liberal controlled CA. TAX TAX TAX REG REG REG
california legislature
Cannabis should come from your backyard, just like your eggs, tomatoes, basil, etc.
Yep. There is no good reason to buy it if you have a back yard. And if you have a back yard, you can supply dozens of other people who don't...for free, if you want to. This is why pot has become so unprofitable.
Under 50 an oz in Michigan
Lol
i disagree... tomatoes are not mind altering... its more along the lines of brewing beer... imo
@@4TwentyFour20 Yeh id say this is more accurate. its like distilling and brewing your getting a superior product.
Correct. 👍🏽
Forbes interviewed the 2 people that are part of the problem in California. Steve Deangelo and glasshouse. The 2 people that are the root cause of of the market crash.
Bingo! F GHF and big cannadicks
No no they need it they have to be kings or they melt. Who cares about you're pot
In the 1950's, 4% of the worlds population had 50% of the world's wealth. 80% of that, was in the working middle class. Half the wealth of the world was in the United States and 80% of that was the middle working class. That's what Built America. Now less than 1/10 of 1% has close to that 80% of wealth. We have bigger problems 😉
@@Featherless1 we are stagnant to address this though
Same question I would like to know. He’s been a good customer for a long time.
Here in Michigan, the legal market has ended up being way cheaper than the black market, primarily because the government is giving huge tax breaks to farmers and dispensaries in order to drive out dealers. Unfortunately, this has lead to a select few companies coming out on top over smaller, family owned stores. In fact, I have yet to see a family owned dispensary in Michigan.
That’s how it should be done. Drop the huge taxes and make it cheaper and easier to buy legally than the black market. That’ll make it less attractive and less profitable to sell on the black market.
@@thebreeze007 yea of shake
@@thebreeze007 I’m coming to Michigan bruh I live in pa a couple hours away not too far away been thinking bout making a trip there to the d to see what’s going on out there.
The price is amazing. I can regularly buy 10g jars of wax for a hundred bucks.
@@thelunchbox420x I just got 15 grams for 100 last friday, its great, just wish it was a family business instead.
Nearly 30% tax depending on where you buy in California. Just ridiculous!
Seriously!!!
Wow!!! Crazy! In Az I think it’s only 16% for recreational and 9% for medical…
Yes your warehouse is better than mother nature, gtfooh! Dude 😎
In Florida is medical but zero taxes.. I love it!
Hard to feel sorry for people that live in a place where you are allowed to have SIX plants growing at home at any one time !!!!!
The biggest problem is that once legalization happened everybody would crash into the Pot Shop and buy everything there-----did not happen! Normal neighbourhood users are still supporting their illicit suppliers due to previous service and quality and cost.
Which is why smart meters started to deploy like rabbits.
My own kid defined the legal terminology differences of "Decriminalization" & "legalization".
She says decriminalization is the Earth Shattering break through that is most desirable.
Those are carefully crafted terminologies in courts.
Cause they are as---les like that.
california is unique in the fact that the climate is good... if exports were GLOBALLY allowed then the industry has a future...
@@anatitan5546 Marijuana decriminalization would be a short sighted policy that doesnt address any of the envirenmental and social ills caused by black market grow operations. Legalization is the way to go, the issue with the legalization we have now is overregulation. If you deregulate, allow civilians to legally grow their own plants, and lower the burden of taxes and fines for cannabis buisnesses legalization is the ideal solution hands down.
@@utnapishtim1039 No doubt, but legalization means supporting an army of bureaucrats, politicians, and regulators. Is it ever any other way when the govt is involved?
Man when I saw all of that bud going into the chipper I was about to cry.
Made my eyes red watching the video.
They made it into hash oil.
if you think that was high grade buds you are high
@calgaryfred I didn't say anything about grade. I hope you feel better trying to make yourself look good at someone else's expense.
We've had the same problem in Canada. It became legal at federal level in October 2018 and we have private retailers everywhere and the shops are empty. There's no chance for most of them because it's far cheaper to buy "illicit cannabis" on the reserve or just homegrow. There's also mail order services that are mostly operating in Vancouver (aka Vansterdam) for over a decade that ship nationwide. A lot of cops and former politicians are also in the business as well when they used to lock others up for doing the same thing. Never leave anything for the government to solve.
California, OC. Is experiencing the same issues. Inventory has it's ups and downs. The rec. Cannabis is a decent price, the taxes are absurd,. And what was your fav's are limited by growers and sellers.✌️💗
@@shelll9254 is the reason I have beautiful plants growing next to my bed. Peace and pot!
You can't get wrecked off legal Canadian weed. It's been secretly altered in some way behind the scenes, intentionally, so you can get a nice smoke, a nice buzz, 7/10 maybe 8/10 but never 10/10 like you can get off any other herb.
Exactly like the alcohol industry in Canada.
No to mention most Mail-Order Cannabis now carry Shrooms as well not to mention that there are some Provinces where we STILL Can't grow Anything! And where we can't even get Concentrates more efficient than just Hash...
So MOM's are a great place for that...and Good Wholesalers too!
Taxes and regulation: the age old way to destroy business and consumers.
I was a slogan in the fight to make it legal. "Jut legalese it, tax it and regulate it"
This is how it got legalized, otherwise people would still be thrown in jail. Considering the USA is all about capitalism, how else would you have thought it got legalized? Gotta take the good w/ the bad. They're starting to make it illegal to test for it in many states now. Baby steps.
The issue is we haven’t legalized it!!! It’s at best heavily decriminalized!!$ it’s not even legal federally!!!
it's Crony Capitalism, which is actually just a form of socialism, state control, not only of markets, but of persons.
You are interviewing 2 guys who are a major part of the problem. They both lobbied hard for prop 64 and told small scale producers to learn and adapt or go under. Now I wish I could bottle up their alligator tears and sell it like they sold our community.
You adapt by selling illegally while selling legally.
Mccormick as well...
Until greed will be taught in schools, movies and social attitudes it's going to be the driving force of the average human being. Which means the vast majority of people. It also means that the free market will be beneficial only to the market bullies that will abuse of their power in order to control it with the help of all the servants that "work" for them, while living in the illusion of being free.
This is the entirely foreseeable reality of legalisation. Scale goes up and cost comes down. Smaller growers should aim to be the agricultural equivalent of craft breweries.
Agreed and great comparison. The regulation and tax problem is real. The major brewers tried to use these tools as weapons against the small local brewers. Dog Fish Head was one who spoke out publicly during the" beer wars". I understand the frustration, that large capital can use influence on law to create protectionism around market.
except what they're doing is being black market growers and black market retail.
@@trinydex what choice are we left with if that is our living. I’m not letting my kids go hungry.
@@uncledutchy1750 you can take the risks, you can play the game, but this wasn't what people wanted.
the current state of affairs doesn't prevent people from getting robbed, killed, large quantities of bulk cash motivating violent crime, etc.
there's a whole several generations of drug smugglers and retail sellers that say, if I didn't do it, someone else would. this is usually in response to an interview question regarding the damage that certain drugs or the drug game do to other people.
I'm going to say this, Nazi guards in concentration camps used the same rationalization.
@@uncledutchy1750..triny.. went to Nazi so fast me thinks he a troll.. never the less, market is a market, legal, black, signifier doesn't matter as much. All the criminality around weed production markets needs to be de criminalized.
I live in switzerland where we're standing close before legalization. The knowledge these guys already have in farming but also in everything that comes along with legalization would be worth a lot money here I think... It's just what comes to my mind when I see these guys struggling who put so much effort and dedication in something they're passionate about but don't get anything in return because of the way the market is governed.
How many people in Europe smoke weed? I mean really smoke weed daily? Im guessing most europeans smoke it maybe on vacation or festivals just a few times a year. Also-- most Europeans-- I've meet smoke weed with Tobacco which cuts down the use of weed even more. I would worry more about just trying to be a regular farmer in Europe with all of the rules about using power and all the other rules they have. I would grow indoor tobacco in Europe before weed way bigger market.
As long as the gov wants to profit from taxation, the more the off-market gangster sales becomes a slightly cheaper but “murderously” competitive. Let people home grow. And like Deangelo said, mega farms mimic the same non-competitive pricing paralleled in other plant agriculture. If ever you get seeds from any plant, save them. Seedless grapes, seedless any is bad. Do people still do craft beer at home? Then do the same for cannabis. Commercial beer companies don’t seem to suffer too much. If you don’t want to drink… If you don’t want to smoke… Don’t. Don’t drive drunk or buzzed. Don’t go to work or be around kids whether buzzed or not. In fact, please don’t smoke heavily toxic commercial cigarettes around your babies, too.
When I was in High School, an once of Pot was $40/ounce. Gold was $35/ounce.
gold hasn’t been $35 an oz since 1934 how old are you
The idea that you can’t get absolutely top quality bud outside of North CA is categorically incorrect.
Yup considering Michigan is putting it half the market share of pure fire that is actually tasting good
We have some awesome growers here in VA!
San Juan Island in Wa has an outstanding reputation.
@@lyddiayannuzzi5564 yes you do, those guys up in the VA mountains have it figured out. Hopefully by the time the weed stores show up owned by the typical boomer gate keepers they will go bankrupt because high quality micro grows is the trend up there. My buddy is growing some of the best bud in the country rn and almost nobody will ever know except his close friends. That is the trend they are "growing" and it is the way.
@@chadpreslar7152 we have a pop up here called 757 grow club, very established now, less pop up feeling. Good security, and local growers. It really is awesome to be a part of the community here!
There are lots of mixed opinions about stocks and there projection in the next coming years, I aim for short term solid gains from market correction and I'd definitely jump on the boat if I knew a thing or two about day-trading, but then again what do I really know? I'm just looking for the right moves to grow and hedge my stagnant reserve of $370k from inflation.
it's all hype! best to ignore the trend at the moment whether bullish or bearish, and stick to a proper trading plan preferably with expertise assistance.
@@davidnewbury1721
@@gabriellewilson5625 talking about coaching, do u consider anyone worthy for recommendations? I have about 80k to taste the waters now that large cap stocks are at a discount... thanks
@@tomjason2495 I've shuffled through investment coaches and yes, they can be positively impactful to an individual's portfolio, but do your due diligence to find a coach with grit, one that withstood the 08' crash. For me, ''Tracy Helene Aalvik'' turned out to be better and smarter than all the advisors I ever worked with till date, I’ve never met anyone with as much conviction.
@@gabriellewilson5625 This recommendation is coming at the right time because i am literally grasping for straws atm!
Wow, nice video! Thanks for sharing that real story with us. It feels so nice having an idea about this.
I started growing my own bc the prices in the stores in San Diego are too expensive. Its turned into a nice little hobby
I bet you have a better quality product growing your own
same here and it is almost more of a joy to see them grow than smoke-----but what is so sad is I grew up with feilds in my backyard but did not try because I didn't want to spend my life in the USA SLAVE PRISON SYSTEM🖕🏾🖕🏼🖕
but we are still ENSLAVED🤬🤬🤬 WHAT IF I GROW TEN PLANTS????? AM I A CRIMMINAL FOR LIFE GROWING A WEED🖕🏼🖕🏾🖕100% INSANITY🖕🏼🖕🏾🖕AMERICAN'S BEST SLAVES EVER⚒️⚒️⚒️
michael can you help me o.o
I'm from SD too, how do u grow them? I have license to cultivate n buy as well.
@@reyvoi5413 check out Mr Canucks on RUclips. He has videos on everything you need to know.
"Why rich investors are mad they haven't been able to take over and milk the marijuana market"
💯💯💯💯💯💯😢
Very few rich investors are stupid enough to think growing a weed would yield a good return on investment, especially when consumers can grow their own in their garden and barely break a sweat.
@@hootowl6354 Okay? But we are clowning the rich investors that tried...
@@hootowl6354 Yeah, that's my thought. The barriers to entry to a commercial operation may be high, but there are almost zero barriers for a consumer to grow weed himself.
"Stuck up California growers throw dirt weed in the wood chipper for dramatic effect"
They've already botched it here in Michigan over the last few years by these dispensaries pricing growers out of the market, the average price paid per oz in MI was recently only $95! Weed on the street back in the day would be worth at least $120 all the way up to $3-4hundred per oz depending on quality and what town I was in but the last oz I picked up was only $65 and it's decent tree
Recreational killed the industry, it’s a shame
That's disgusting
I remember oz's for $400..lol....just recently bought half an oz from dispensary for $115 after taxes..Boston
I’m in Michigan and within 4 years of recreational growing the price of an ounce has been cut in half. Over saturation 😔
I live in Illinois and it's a joke, they made sure no one could afford to get into production but the super rich. You need 400k in liquid assets, you need a compound with the latest security system that gets inspected. The made sure you had to have millions to start up. Craft growers licenses are at least 25k if I remember right, thousands applied, 50 got approved. Because of this our industry is controlled by 2 or 3 big companies and the little man has no chance which also impacts our prices, we have old school $20-$35 a gram prices, an ounce is around 300 dollars unless you want some trash shake, there's a 20% tax on top of that if you're not medical. Meanwhile you can go next door to Michigan and get quality ounces for half the price in certain dispensaries. Most of the people I know go to street dealers because our regulations, tax and overall prices on marijuana are rediculos. We are by far the most expensive state for marijuana. Also, not that this is on that same note, but why is all of our dispensary weed so dry and harsh? From what I've been told thc content is measured by what percentage of the flowers weight is made up of thc after curing. If that is the case, are people then over drying their weed to fluff their thc numbers for sale purposes? The weed is so dry you don't need a grinder, you can crush it to a full on powder with your fingers, what happened the bud having a slight amount of density, smooth tastes and such. I went to Colorado a few weeks back and the bud I got there was so much smoother. I've never seen weed that dry prior to dispensaries becoming a thing, never seen someone's home grown be like that. Our system is trash. They rushed in a trash system to make a quick buck on taxes and now everyone is going back to street dealers. If they approved more licenses to grow with out flooding the market, It'd be a beautiful thing. I want sub 200 dollar ounces, that'd be amazing. I think they actually see an increase in that tax revenue if they could compete with the street dealers, but that's not happening anytime soon. You can get an 8th on the street for 30-40bucks give or take, ounces for around 240ish, an 8th is at least 60+ tax at a dispensary, its absurd.
Yeah the dispensaries in Illinois are trash everyone goes to Michigan for much better product greedy crook country will never change sir it’s a shame 🤷♂️
@@ability_chi_gemini here in Michigan the big dispensaries are buying out the small dispensaries
@@jeffsmith8065I know lots of people who go to upper peninsula frequently because they are sick of the swag here lol
Lol grow your own.
Literately breaking down my IL collinsville dispensary thc and its breaking up to dust as im reading this
i started growing my own once the prices started getting ridiculous here in CA around 4-5 years ago. just like as is the case with growing tomatoes at home, the quality tends to be a lot higher than what you can get at the store these days
@@omi_god I just buy clones from dark heart and/or from a local breeder in my county about once a year. as its easier/less time-consuming, and they have good genetics...iv only bought weed from a dispensary maybe 3-4 times in the last 5 years and each time the quality has been lacking
I Grow close to 50 pounds a year in my back apartment patio
The factory food veggie situation is even worse than weed. Store tomatoes may as well be unflavored tennis balls.
I grow my own for personal use because I enjoy the hobby of gardening. I don't like the idea of buying weed from somebody else when I can grow my own.
@@Jarheads4Yeshua Dont get caught lol
I was so interested by this video because I'm thinking about going to school for this sort of thing and opening a dispensary in my home town for help with some addiction recovery. There is a lot to take in as far as this is concerned. I can understand why a business would start with one thing, perfect it, then continue on with other gray area products, which seems an awful lot like the neighborhood shaman's routine. I like it. I think I could enjoy honoring the botanist that helped settle this community. That may beg for more help....
Oklahoma is fast becoming the pot farm capitol in the US. Pot farms are popping up everywhere due less regulation than Cali. Several Cali based companies have started grow operations there. Oklahoma is having a special vote early 2023 to go recreational . Prices there are good and will only get better for the end consumer.
Until oversaturation of the market! Same old story!
@@glennerd3125 exactly
Yes but you have to be f***** up to use in Oklahoma and you still can't drive on it since it drug.
@@daisykaren6584 Not sure what you mean by the first part of your comment ? You can't legally drive under influence of weed in any state.
@@bobbybishop5662 here in Oklahoma you can't use with out see a docker and saying you dieing.
Government ruins every single thing it touches.
85 Billion a year busness, It is in some bodys pocket
Capitalism ruins everything
SO STOP PAYING TAXES!!!
You can legally shift 15-33% of your income to local charities, local businesses, and local non-profits. Have them give you a receipt, to be taken with you to the IRS and at that point you're legally cleared!!!
That is not exactly true. If we look at what is presented in this video it appears that the influence of large corporations and investors on politicians is the big problem. This is what has led to a corrupt Supreme Court and rampant media disinformation. Big money created a system to favor themselves. The answer is to just grow yourself or attempt to buy from smaller growers. Additionally, it is important to lobby legislator to change the laws in order to allow smaller growers back in. Just shitting on "big bad government" is lazy and incorrect.
@@timothythompson7750 that sounds like a far cry from not paying taxes. And you just spent the money on something you don't want anyhow.
I got my hands, a shovel and the sun and I absolutely love growing ! I'm 44 and they won't let us poor folks get our foot in the door. black market flower W.V.!!!
have fun, in AZ it's usually the plants that are black.
Respect. It really rubbed me wrong them mentioning every diversity checkbox but not income AND acting like California has a god given right to be the #1 weed growing state and other states should buy from them vs make it ourselves. WV has proudly grown amazing bud for decades and centuries and supplied Maryland which we are greatful for.
This is the same thing that happened to organic farms in California. 30 years ago there were thousands of small organic farms and they've all been regulated out of existence, not to mention the word organic now has no legal meaning and the big companies use chemicals and fertilizer and just call it organic.
Perfect example of the mean core nature of the free market. Rich people will have the wealth to support an industry that produces such a quantity at a low cost that can lower the selling price, while small farmers will fall in the seducing trap to become big, meanwhile struggling to pay the bills. And with no other choice, will go to the black market or die. The economic free market system is based on an alien to the planet predator mindset, that brings our society out of the harmony that allows on our planet to balance the life of all and everything. A very easy way out is to limit the amount of land a producer can have. It would be basically bring to a local scale the market and cut of the possibility to the big fish to eat the small fish. Anyway the problem looks unsolvable because the law makers are those that have more power when the solution would be to fragment that power and localise it... unless a new harmonizing force that we yet don't know, takes over, Which is a wild hope in our times, but the only one that can be found using rational thinking.
Police, prosecutor's, judges anyone who has ever profited off the war on drugs has absolutely no business in the trade
He has every reason
I love how people think the geography for weed actually means anything when it comes to indoor grown weed.
Of course Californians think they are the center of the universe and everything they do is better! 😆
Most people vape now adays and outdoor is mostly what distillate pens are made from
nancy reagan rolling in her grave after people started growing weed indoors and making it dank af
Well that guy seems to be dominating the market. So he's doing something right.
@@mastergator9641 Vapes are good here and there but they are so much harsher than flower, and quite frankly even if they are higher in thc they never give as good a high as flower with lower thc but a larger range of cannabinoids. I'd hardly say most people use vapes over flower but the vapes are certainly more popular than ever.
Legalization helped almost no one, the few individuals who were able to get into the legal market had to have millions of dollars upfront to even try to get into the market, it just went from being illegal to being legal and owned by corporations and already wealthy people
Sam with Canada
Nevada was even worse. The licenses were expensive and handed out to the well connected. The state got sued for a FOIA for a list of licensees and the state dragged its heels for years until they coughed up the names, even with a court order.
In Massachusetts you had to be super rich and well connected with the town you want to operate in. All the dispensaries went to politicians families and the wealthy people in my area. It was one of the most corrupt things I ever witnessed.
@@denislabelle3853 Old story. Nevada is opening lounges and its already turning into a dumpster fire
Legalization keeps people out of jail. To say it helps noone ignores the reduction of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people a year not going through arrest, jail, court, and property forfeiture.
In Michigan there's grower networks, concentrate & edible manufacturers. Dispensaries are busy, providing jobs far more satisfying than average retail. Top quality extracts & edibles are available at affordable prices. Homegrow is legal. The bud itself is mostly overpriced at dispensaries, at least compared to your buddy's homegrow. What's missing everywhere is truly is the "microbrew" experience where a grower can have a session lounge & retail store. This would allow boutique growers to capture retail profits and turn into resorts, like wineries. Of course the banking and Federal nightmare have been well-known in the industry in every med-or-rec legal state. Congress & the Feds are the true demon.
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The orphaned kid of William Reddie might have liked that.
I paid $15 for my first ounce of weed. I stopped smoking weed in 1990, when side effects were taking over, and I was suffering from panic disorder. ( yes, probably because of my abuse). I am interested in getting some again, but all of this " weed speak" leaves me confused.
Dr. Oh has some advice: ruclips.net/video/QYCkVjdgDqQ/видео.html
People over complicate EVERYTHING. Where's the regular stuff at
$ 15 dollars ??? When , in 1932 ?
Lol.. 1932 no ounces... it was lids that you bought , then more folks had letter scales , got more official late 70's &80's
@@chuckleberryfinn1992 we all used carburetor float scales and zeroed them out with a nickel
Glad you guys are promoting a cop owned boof factory. Wouldn't expect anything else
Forbes only the best
Ikr... As*holes.
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I thought the same thing man, fn indoor boof factory 😂😂
Yeah cause we're supposed to be impressed by the dude's lack of integrity.
Dude is very humble when explaining the struggles of running a legal operation in Cali. The taxes and regulations are insanely destructive.
9:15 what's wrong with the shape of his shoulders or something
Wonder how he voted.....
I think it should never be legalized recreationally. Medical seems to be the best route. From watching this video it seems that legalizing it recreationally is what fucked the market up along with oversaturation, taxes, and regulations
Newshome
It's ironic that Cannabis Taxes were the selling point made by the Proponents to State Governments when they were pushing for legalization. Now those same people are complaining about the taxes.
Nice to see the use of natural light. Thinking about it if the property was large enough you could also capture some energy to help offset what is needed. I’m not sure how much of difference that would make with current tech
Have the legacy market cannabis growers figured out that when they apply for a license and they are turned down, they are then marked as illegal growers?
It's still illegal where I'm at (Alabama) but the street prices here have been cut in half, high grade in 2012 was going for $20 a gram. Once Colorados weed boom got going good the same stuff goes for $10 a gram.
Over time, the Quality of craft cannabis, Will proof it's value.
Mass scale Quality is low, especially in the effects it gives.
Craft Cannabis is the Only Cannabis to consume.
Craft cannabis is a massive factory. Meaning it's quality is low.
I will never smoke anything from a dispensary or anyone if I don't know they personally grow.
Good thing I grow my own award winning flowers
Wrong people are happy to smoke shitty $50 ounces all day. They just don’t care
Not really. Using your logic, fast food wouldn't exist because it has low quality.
craft cannabis doesnt exist the way it does in your mind, reality is 99% of growers grow boof and shouldnt be growing.
Alcohol and pharmaceutical companies lobbied every day against it it's always about their MONEY
Even when it becomes federally legal growers in the emerald triangle really believe people in the other states would want that sun grown over the fire quality I seen now is baffling.
In my area we have too many snitches and corrupt cops. Better to get it at a store to not get messed with the local cops for me.
Steve lobbied to lift the canopy limits allowing large producers to stack 1 acre permits. He helped CREATE the problem.
Right
This right here is the truth. Those that know. Snake in....
Yep.....
canopy limits were never the problem, steve was never gonna stop vancouver and oklahoma 😂
@@javiddun1 disagree. beyond being outright dishonest with the craft cannabis coalitions that only put support behind 64 because of canopy limits, it was an exercise in brand building on the backs legacy craft California farmers. by driving the price per lb to a limit that put all
of the heritage “brands” out of business, eroding their ability to set quality and class at that pivotal time in the market. greenhouse industrial “california finest” can now be exported as somehow ever so slightly better than OK AK commodity mids. and guess who owns all that industrial greenhouse gmo laden pollution factories ready to export across state lines but the self appointed “king”. He did a similar move locally in Oakland closing the door on locals who had been supplying 215 collectives since 1996 but i digress.
Glad to see you getting the real story out there that most don't hear or know about..
Here in Maine we are going down the same path as Oregon, the amount of dispensary’s and growers has gotten out of hand. ALot of growers have quit this year.
Really really good coverage. Really interesting and really important issues tackled. My only criticism is that you provide very specific statistics without providing the contextual statistics that inform how concerned we should be about the initial stat. Which leaves the viewer with more questions than answers.
Prop. 64 was the worst thing to happen to legal cannabis. If people were not so blind to the blatant governmental overreach of the prop, we could have kept the "loosely regulated" medical cannabis market which was more people focused instead of profit focused. Ever since 2018 marijuana has never been the same in terms of potency, effect, and benefits which have all changed for the worse... Thanks again for that, Steve!!!
Dennis Peron was against the current Cali scheme. Y'all should have listened.
Steve?
I don't even smoke marijuana anymore since my state went legal it was good for a few years now I just smoke and get anxious and paranoid rather not even smoke the garbage
Never would of thought government involvement would make something worse.
@@coltonconnor112 this is corporate involvement , everything that happens today is corporate involvement.
The best place to grow weed is right in your house for best quality.And cuts out the big corp.and gov.not everyone can afford weed,lets be american and grow home.
it's going to cost $10k to replace my heat pump in AZ. it gets nasty, especially with leaf hoppers. i just went 18 months of failed harvests, about to pull one 1/4 the size it should be.
@@atomictraveller Dam that sucks! ima small timer just enough to keep me and family going.I hear ya tho some states suck.i feel for you.
Watching the 1M sq ft "weedbro" struggle through his complaint about how no one but people like him can prosper in the cannabis market . . . priceless. Also painful.
I've always said "support your local small businesses" but also have said "leave growing to the pros in the green triangle"
Hey 👋there
Are you also one of my comic movie fans out there?
Until greed will be taught in schools, movies and social attitudes it's going to be the driving force of the average human being. Which means the vast majority of people. It also means that the free market will be beneficial only to the market bullies that will abuse of their power in order to control it with the help of all the servants that "work" for them, while living in the illusion of being free.
I live in Sonoma county and there are 22 dispenseries here. It is rural and not populated that much either. Something has got to give.
Im in Mendocino county its ridiculous
Something will. The market will decide the winners and losers and it won't care about race, gender, identity or the pursuit of generational wealth.
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I'm in maine I purchase an ounce of pretty good weed a week from my local dispensary and the total cost of that ounce is 71 dollars with tax included. I used to pay 2-300 an ounce on the street before legalization.
You still smokin some bullshit if yo ounce cost less than 150 out of dispo anywhere my top shelf b buds cost more than your ounce it kills me that ppl still smoke mids out of the dispo
Maryland finally passed recreational this year. Dispensary prices around here in Baltimore are cheap. They have great products and the price is right. We'll see how it changes next July 1 when recreational kicks in.
the man steve is the whole reason the legal weed system in ca failed. you can easily see how he pushed out the smaller farms for a bigger farm and then got pushed out himself
As above, so below. As below, so above. When people like Steve violate natural law principles, thats exactly what you get. Do unto other as you would have them do unto you. Fucker had it coming and that's what I'm sayin.
That happened to Québec's Bloc Pot representative(s) years ago on our national French-speaking TV networks that the rest of Canada can't bare to watch. The guy was facing an addictionnist-abstentionnist and yet wasted his precious speach-time to whine over pharmacists threatening to "steal" 2 decades of his own "work"... Come to my sacrificed province to meed an invisible portion of society erased from reality, 9 meters from all doors or windows, not even allowed to wear cannabis pictures...
Until greed will be taught in schools, movies and social attitudes it's going to be the driving force of the average human being. Which means the vast majority of people. It also means that the free market will be beneficial only to the market bullies that will abuse of their power in order to control it with the help of all the servants that "work" for them, while living in the illusion of being free.
Amazing how a beautiful, beneficial seed can sow such controversy.
The best argument for legalizing all drugs that I have ever heard.
I would literally move out there from Texas to learn how to grow and gain experience in the grow world. I’m from Texas , i visit California often. I would love to learn tbh ❗️
Thank Deangello and the big money players that voted for that but did not know the structure of the rules when it came out. Now look at it. People HATE IT and can not make a living on small farms due to new regs and high price push outs and so many stupid rules. Deangello knows he helped screw that one up.
The fact that he's pretending he didn't help cause this fiasco is mind boggling.
@@melsfire and infuriating
Until greed will be taught in schools, movies and social attitudes it's going to be the driving force of the average human being. Which means the vast majority of people. It also means that the free market will be beneficial only to the market bullies that will abuse of their power in order to control it with the help of all the servants that "work" for them, while living in the illusion of being free.
Growing yourself can be difficult at first.
But, if you persist with patience through the cycles, and errors.
It is quite rewarding 🐸
It's so much fun, even if you don't get the best bud ever, bringing those beautiful plants to flower is a blessed experience.
I'd grow it even if I didn't smoke it. Beautiful plant.
I know this story all too well. This is a great recap of what's going on and my heart goes out to everybody affected. Been there. I'm in Michigan now and there are so many problems with the legalization botches, similar stories. But I tell you what, I would pay extra for some sun weed from NorCal. Nothing here comes close to that.
It's like Michigan wine compared to Napa valley!
Hopefully someday things will get sorted out, cuz I'm ready to support small NorCal family farms!
Very educational vid thx. Question I noticed the flowers you have growing at the base of the plants what are they? I can only guess they are for natural pest control.
it was the best weed before recreational weed rip CA quality
That woman is in more groups then bootsy Collins.
😂😂😂
IN THE HEART OF RUclips. IS THAT NEW YEARS OR IS IT OPPOSITE NEW YEARS ? a real man forbes ? i hear that all the time.
Lots of discussions and controversies here in Europe about legalization. This excellent video sheds a very different light on this matter and reveals unsuspected side effects and downsides. Not as straightforward as I thought it would be.
This video is actually quite narrow in scope. Different US states have regulated it in different ways both medically and recreationally, with different results. Some ways are better than others but there is always a downside. In this video they talk about "over taxing and over regulating" and in the same breath mention "over saturation of the market". Completely lax regulation leads to even more over saturation of the market with makes small growers poor (see Oregon). Stringent regulation and high taxes lead to higher profits for small growers, but limits the number of growers. (See Washington state) This video only talks about things in California, but it is a complicated situation because along with the black market there is the grey market (what some people call "legal" operations selling to the black market) as well as the black market (grow operations not licensed in any way). All in all it is extremely complicated (speaking as someone who was involved in the industry in Colorado for five years)
@@motterbe Thank you for this info and it doesn't make things less complicated :-)
Until greed will be taught in schools, movies and social attitudes it's going to be the driving force of the average human being. Which means the vast majority of people. It also means that the free market will be beneficial only to the market bullies that will abuse of their power in order to control it with the help of all the servants that "work" for them, while living in the illusion of being free.
Steve deAngelo was the driving force for the removal of the 1 acre cap in California, That is the number 1 reason for the over supply of product in the California market. Now he is rebranding himself as a proponent for small farms when he is greatly responsible for their demise.
Steve DeAngelo and Harborside is 100000% the cause. They intentionally set up a vertical business where instead of selling a variety of growers, most of their store sales had to come from their own crop. That's where the large factory greenhouses came in and the small growers went out. I personally know the individual who set up all of those independent growers contracts when Harborside first opened. I personally witnessed Harborside's vertical integration completely destroy and eliminate dozens, even hundreds of small, boutique growers... those growers who defined California Cannabis for decades and whose back Steve
DeAngelo rode on in order build Harborside. Those folks lost their entire lives, their livelihood, lost their whole farms, the land... some which had been in their families for generations. He is not an advocate for anyone but himself. Let it be known, if you don't know. He is not the self-proclaimed grandfather of cannabis. He is not a beloved friend of the grower. He grossly used the plant, then cashed out and left a wake of disgrace in his path. Steve DeAngelo and Harborside are for sure one of the large causes of how the cannabis industry has changed, dare I say, died.
In Florida we call it “supporting your local growers”. Instead of refining the processes and making it a better more efficient experience the folks in Tallahassee want to keep taking steps in the other direction.
My grinder hasn’t seen any oil in 5 years here. Not sure how they’re purging the flower and still having residual thc however I know it’s being done. You can see it in the color and crispness of the bud. So I say.... until the legal Eagles get it sorted “keep supporting your local growers “.....
Legal prices are ridiculous in my state. I won't buy from a store unless it's the last resort and it seldom is. The problem with the cannabis industry is that everyone expects to get rich.
Steve helped write prop 64 it’s mainly his fault
Classic case of someone in over their head when dealing with politicians. He may know weed, but they know the system.
I wished someone would show how much Law Enforcement profited from The War on Drugs as well as the many ways they profited. The legal and illegal ways they benefited.
We'll one big way is like a speeding ticket Law Enforcement only would got 50 to 60 percent of that ticket that would go back to there department.But any kind of drug ticket they get 100 percent and can take everything house and car and in alot of cases auction it all of and 100 percent of that goes to the department.
@@bryanhoffman7401 Stop cops policing for profit. In fact raise the standards for Law Enforcement. Most are mentally, morally, and/or physically UNFIT to wear a uniform. They serve the Department’s not The People. Higher standards for ALL Public Servants should be demanded immediately. We need to change the laws to read If your a Public Servant and Charged with a crime, you should be terminated immediately. If you’re a Public Servant and are convicted of a crime ( jay walking to murder) you should be executed in Public for all to see. Public Servants committing crime will be a thing of the past. I know this kills many serving now, We need accountability from these people, unless their finances or asses are on the line they will continue as usual. There is a whole lot of dirtbags out there as judges, da’s, constables, sheriffs, and city officials.
Look we all need to start in or towns or city's. Than work or way out.Just like the rich get richer the poor go broke.Every town has a odd fellows or a Masonic Lodge or a eagle's bar that is where all there cops and judges hang out at one way or the other and if your not in the click than your out!!!! They all have body cameras now.But if there is something they do not want the pubic or the judge to see and they say it went off on its own so say 10 cops where there just so happen all 10 cameras went on and off at the same times every time in every town and city.That is what needs to stop for one thing.We all need to know are propers.What we can and can't do or say.A cop can lie to us to get the answers they are seeking.But the best thing to do is just stay off the radar and the grid.We are in a time now and moving toward to where there is always some kind of I in the sky!!!! That is the new law
I've read so many comments of people saying we won the war on drugs which Is ridiculous, everyone lost on every side and the government ended up just supporting the drug problem in America.
Law enforcement isn't a business nor an industry. It is a public service that we need.
Normalizing getting high isn't good for society. That's why we didn't just roll over and let idiots do it.
Maybe I needed to be high to follow this, but I'm confused. It sounds like some folks are saying cannabis cultivation is too regulated (few licenses available) and others are saying it's not regulated enough (folks can grow as much as they want). It seems like there's a problem there, but as a viewer, I'm not really sure what it is. Maybe a follow-up video that gets deeper into the economics of the system might help. Or maybe I should just roll a doobie and rewatch it.
Without cracking down on the black market in Canada and the USA this will continue to be a sh*t show for the hard working people doing it the legal way
hard working people are Now just setting up framework for the massive conglomerates to come in and take over operations at some point in time . when cannabis is legal expect huge corporations to control the market like any other commodity ever .. look at legal cannabis states . the huge corp got a monopoly , you need millions to buy in and grow in that State while just any guy walking around cannot grow it or attain it at all , still illegal
According to this video content, the licensed growers costs are roughly $200-$300 per pound. Googling the prices per pound in California, it ranges from $300-$1100 per pound ranging from small to large buds. How is it then that growers in CA struggle financially?
Taxes and restrictions on selling.
Nothing is a coincidence, Lawyers and judges run the dope business on all levels 💯
"Kids-for-Cash"...
this
Love this comment 💯 It's a rigged system
Until greed will be taught in schools, movies and social attitudes it's going to be the driving force of the average human being. Which means the vast majority of people. It also means that the free market will be beneficial only to the market bullies that will abuse of their power in order to control it with the help of all the servants that "work" for them, while living in the illusion of being free.
In parallel, it's like government telling you that you can't raise angus bulls for your own beef on your own property. You have to buy it from a store, where the beef comes from Cargil. This is the same sort of thing.
All I have to say is some Oregon buds I bought here were super high quality. Some of the best I've ever had and I've had it all.
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That price is amazing as a medical user, I really feel the sun grown part and it means a lot. Thank you
Black market will always be king because it can't be taxed.... I could go on but I'm not going to waste my breath. Peace and blessings to all. Live life however you see fit
agreed
This is one of the best vids on this subject that I've seen. I think that DeAngelo is right.
The lady at the end said “I mean I think it will not take too long for people to realize their local weed isn’t California cannabis”, but she’s wrong. Simple economics 101 has shown me so many growers that have had to divert eastbound to the black market to survive. So, all that you can find is good, medical grade cannabis. I’ve smoked top shelf dispensary for half of the price in a state where it’s illegal for like 8 years now because the black market was flooded strong even after CO went legal. When I was in Denver and LA, I was stunned at the recreational prices. Especially in LA. So as a user, it makes more sense to seek out an unregulated distributor for a cheaper price.
The market is flooded with mid grade cannabis and the real top shelf is 1%. That’s just the reality dont get it twisted
Agreed, they are ignoring the simple rule of supply and demand. The states need to be the ones pulling back on the cultivators. These cultivators are overdoing it, and complaining. Every state needs to be responsible for supply, and the West coast needs to get into the habit of cutting growers, and retailers to a reasonable amount or the whole thing will implode. Even alcohol, and tobacco has figured this out.
I agree, definitely have more/cheaper options in a certain illegal state, especially with delta8/thc-o/p/jd being copious there too as backups. $100 can get me 14-16g of some SMOKE (I'm talking one bowl gets a daily smoker high-high for a full hour and a half) where as back home in Oakland $100 might get you two premium 1/8ths from the dispo. Man I love economics. I've even seen the label on some plugs qp bags say (some city), CO or (some city), CA.
In cali 60$ get you 12 grms some flight cake cake
Well said
All of the small weed growing businesses should network together, form an alliance so that they do not get left behind, most of all work together to keep from being manipulated by the much larger companies. Unify regardless of the time, and/or effort, in the long run you will benefit from the effort. Guaranteed!!! Start today!!
Marijuana should be treated as any other plant business such as potatoes, corn or tomatoes. Plant it, tend it, harvest it and then get it to market. The only restriction should be attaining the age of majority to consume it.
The Narrator kept trying to hold the US government accountable for the over-taxation, yet it's still illegal federally. It's really each state that has legalized that has done this, and from your video: specifically the state of California. Place the blame where it is due.
Don’t forget about the virtue mafia that runs Oregon, they totally f@#$&* it up
Exactly this.
Stupid people want us to blame “the government” but if we blame the individuals at fault for making these decisions we may be able to solve our problems.
Illinois is horrible also. low quality high price.
LOL. Funny watching people complain about taxes. What did people think was going to happen? Government wasn't going to tax it to death because it's weed?
@@weirdshibainu tax but don't overdo it
Her point is we're a small business but every company was a small business at one point
Until greed will be taught in schools, movies and social attitudes it's going to be the driving force of the average human being. Which means the vast majority of people. It also means that the free market will be beneficial only to the market bullies that will abuse of their power in order to control it with the help of all the servants that "work" for them, while living in the illusion of being free.
“We try to focus on the small companies” shows Camino gummies right after🤣🤣
How do you outlaw something that anyone can grow in their backyard/basement?
'It's just a plant' is always a bad arguement. Most poisons come from plants, so most deadly plants are illegal to purposefully grow and cultivate... as it should be. If I may make a kindly suggestion; include some verbage that separates cannabis from deadly poisonous plants.
@@alostbard Have you been asleep for the past fifty years? There is a growing body of research showing the numerous health benefits of cannabis, and its many cannabinoids and terpenes. It's hardly poison.
Buy seeds grow you're own screw these clowns lol. Take things private in your hands, no middleman and no BS to deal with.
Some people don’t want to grow their own and some don’t have patience like that. For people who don’t care for growing should support these smaller farmers vs larger conglomerates
@@odin2131 yeah and what about those people who use cannabis primarily for medical benefits and have heath conditions .. which make up keep on any decent small home grow, next to impossible? Even when you argue a couple plant tent can be intially setup by someone as a hydro with coco bucket system - all on timers ... There is still enough daily manual maintenance needed to make it difficult/out of reach for some medical users, unfortunately.
However you want to cut it, there will always be a segment of the cannabis user base who will be limited to buying retail flowers or products ... And those ppl should have a safe and fair market place to participate in
Yeah go ahead and try. They can bust you because they can use your homes smart meter to detect the light cycle of the grow op. The power companies will narc when they see a pattern in power usage.
@@wampaswomps3975 I was running a seed company so you have no idea what you're talking about. Wanna buy good genetics? Hit me up
@@wampaswomps3975 In most states where it's legal there is a certain number of plants that each person can cultivate at a time and/or a certain amount of your own dried product that you can posses. The number of plants and weight of the product differs by state, but most states aren't going to bust your door in unless it's obvious that you are growing a large amount to sell
Old landrace cannabis strains had balanced THC/CBD levels as God intended. Also many important terpenes! Only recently man has hybridised cannabis to have 20-30% THC and almost no CBD, hence all the side effects, that many people experience. This is why we must return to the original landrace strains.
In Santa Rosa new shops keep.popping up, I'm waiting for the major close downs . There are 60 shops now around here. I predict 60% gone this year or two.
making shops based on street prices ( black market ) is nothing but set to fail
Remember the song that goes “don’t go legal till I sell my crop “ . It was a camp fire song that old out laws used to sing in the “old west”.
Legalize cannabis federally within each and every single state now and make it the law of the land across America. Just like alcohol. This way, irrational prohibitionist politicians can't continue to stubbornly obstruct and prevent legalization within their individual home states, against the will of the vast majority of Americans whom support the full federal legalization of cannabis nationwide. Treat cannabis exactly like we treat far more dangerous and deadly yet perfectly legal alcohol. Completely legal in all states across the entire U.S.A. Just like alcohol.
Agreed!
State-by-state legalization is the issue here. Total madness that you can have an ounce in your car legally, then drive 100 yards over a border and immediately be arrested.
jUsT LiKe AlCoHoL!?
This is a sick joke, and you should delete your whole comment
Except then all the legal businesses go under except the 2 largest that can afford to bribe officals
Yeah so they can make homegrown illegal again and we’re forced to buy shitty commercial flower that’s still hit with pesticides and mass produced to a product that doesn’t even resemble good herb anymore thanks but no thanks pass the MORE act the way it is and leave it alone how about that as a start?
Interesting to hear the California Street people highlight the very problems caused by government policies, greater government control and regulatory power, they actually support.
Same thing happened in Florida. Voted to legalize overwhelmingly 3 times. So a moritoriam was passed
till the big money took over. But it’s still against the law for you & me plus it’s still against the law to grow your own. On top of that you have to buy a medical card yearly which cost about 500.00. Duh tell me what’s wrong with this picture?
I don't understand where this entitlement to build generational wealth comes from when you are doing something that others can easily do as well. You have to do something special that benefits society to stand a chance.