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I’m Qld fan and Joey is just passionate about state of origin I have nothing against it, it is what it is it’s apart of this game and passion is all you can have for this game and that’s what makes it great
One of the many that come put after a series win and act all "honorable" stfu
Agreed👍
I don’t know why people are criticising Joey. I want Joey and Gus to be biased and love New South Wales. I want Paul vautin and Wally Lewis to be biased. These are origin legends I wanna see em hurt like I do after a loss, I wanna see em giddy like school kids after a win. It shows how important origin is to our hero’s. I demand Matt Thompson and ray warren be impartial but the day Wally Lewis goes on tv after a Queensland loss and says “well how wonderful were the blues” is the day I take him out back and put him down.
Ol' Yella
Yeah he was clearly just diss appointed after the loss
Like fitlers he's a typical NSW sore loser.
POO SOUTH WALES
@@clashwithyourmum8665 Cleary disappointed indeed for poo south wales... No match for tha Almighty Queenzlandaz
Huuuuge huge Queensland fan here but I 100% agree with Joey and I absolutely love the passion he shows. People call it salty, I call it passion and pride…. (Though he was a bit salty) 😂
But if you take a poll of any Australian from any part of the country, who would they identify as a more passionate state wearing the jersey
The salty truth
Joey needs to realize that he was the last blues player that actually gets it - these days they'd rather do little dances on tiktok
What he’s saying goes both ways tho
Talking straight to one Paul Kent . Well
Said Joey
Hope Paul Kent watches this. Even as a Queenslander, Joey is right on the money here.
Paul Kent and those other idiots are just pretenders
Paul Kent was referring to QLD No. 6 vs NSW No. 6. QLD No.6's childhood dream is to play for QLD at SOG so he was in tears when Billy gave him a call. But the NSW No.6's dream is to play for Samoa. SOG is just something nice to have on his resume. That's the difference.
@@frankchang3779 This is the reason they shouldn't allow them to play unless its for Australia as well but they have to raise the match payments for all the other internationals so players like Luai don't just play Origin for money
I would rather a rookie QLDER forward in a Maroon jersey over Sam Burgess in his prime just because I know that young QLDER grew up wanting to play Origin for QLD so the jersey would mean more to him hahaha
@@jest3167 you are 100% right, as a kiwi and qld supporter, I love nothing more than 2 aussie teams smashing each other for their jumpers like joey said they would literally die for that state, the passion is like nothing else which makes it the best form of rugby league to watch. For me it was good to see the islander boys adapt that aussie never say die attitude to their game Nanai was one in particular
@@frankchang3779 Paul kent was also generalizing it across the board, he just chose that as 1 small example, i agree ive thought for a long time Luai is overrated garbage being carried by Cleary at penrith, i would love to see Luai dropped. But what paul kent said was a lot more deeper than just that mate. Joey has a right to be infuriated that a nobody that never played elite level of Rugby league to be spouting the nonsense paul kent does, Paul kent doesn't deserve a microphone at all and needs to be dropped (figuratively and physically)
As a Qld fan I didn’t feel that Joey needed to justify his reaction to game 3 because as a hard fan of rugby league and the maroon I understood where it came from and being that Joey understands what it takes to play at that level I imagine that the loss would hurt him 1000x more than it would hurt me to see the maroons lose as I’m only emotionally attached to the team from the sidelines. Joey has been in the trenches!
The ones who criticise him aren’t true fans of their respected him, they just don’t get it!
As a Queenslander I totally agree, Joey loves his football and he loves the Blues so totally understand where he's coming from and his passion for his team and the game. He's a legend of the game for the reason.
Joey claims giving up the chase proves the shirt argument means nothing, but in game 3 when only one NSW player chased Ben Hunt ....... Thoughts Joey?
I’m a qlder and agree with what Joey said about how no one is talking about the skills and game plan that the qld side had in that second half, all the little things are getting unnoticed
Same im queenslander but was defending Cleary cause the haters act like a halfback can attack without field position & with the team making error after error
@@clutch7548 Only having one half that can kick hurt them IMO easier to target one kicker then 2 IK Burton was there but its not really the same
@@jest3167 i think Burton counts. Hes just to the left of Luai anyway. And hes a deadly kicker
It was a super close game. The small difference were errors & Hunt and DCE came up with crucial kicks. You have a point though cause Burton doesnt go for 40/20’s like Hunt, just massive bombs
It is because rugby league plays get done in every game, the difference in origin is the drive and effort a player wants to put in, it is all in the heart not the brain.
ones feel good bullcrap and ones actually breaking it down like a business. We come to watch a professional not gimmick fans commentating "how they feel" and its a shame so many ex-players get suckered into to human nature of thinking with emotion vs brain. You wouldn't hear Lockyer say this but Paul Kents just a stupid person when it comes down to it literally, nearly on Buzz's level. Both make decisions on how they "feel". Joey is actually showing integrity to his profession, when he won does it mean that he had more passion for the Jersey then Thurston and Lockyer even after not playing any games so his passion must of been through the roof like Wally Lewis.
It's good to hear someone from NSW just admit that QLD played better. It's been quite annoying hearing it's about passion, and selection errors and mentality and blah blah blah. No QLD played better, simple as that. NSW played better in game 2 and QLD played better in game 1 and 3. Last year NSW played better, a lot better. Like these are the best players in the game, sure on paper NSW looks a touch better, but QLD is still a star studded side. On paper Penrith are better than Parramatta, but Parramatta still beat them by playing better footy.
Like just give credit where it's due and move on.
Agreed, by suggesting "NSW doesn't play for their jersey" it actually devalues the QLD victory....! So it not only hurts NSW but also QLD.
100%
I think Joey is right to an extent. I just think there are some players who love their state more than others and Qld just has more of those players.
Tupo isn’t even from our state. Get the blow ins out. Made same errors last time series was in the balance he was selected in whereas Fox bleeds Blue!
It depends which game you are referring to. I remember watching game 2 in disbelief as Daniel Tupou ran in to score a try and every Queenslander just stood there and let him run closer to the goal post. If you were to watch game 3 then I would say Queensland played with more passion. If you look at the 2021 series, you could question every single Queenslanders passion, let’s not forget that every single game was played in Queensland as well. After the series was wrapped up in game 2, Daly Cherry-Evans did not even address the playing group as the captain and a lot of Queenslanders were questioning his passion.
The fact Joey mentions NSW 2nd in what he wanted to achieve since a kid proves Qld’s point. Most Qlders support Qld first before Qld teams. Origin started in 1980 well before the birth of the Broncos, Titans, Cowboys. Qld may not always win but When it matters Qld dig deeper because it does mean more.
Joshua,
You get it.
I cannot believe the amount of people supporting the behaviour of Andrew Johns.
He is a sore loser. Both he and Fittler were walking around like the game AND series had been won. This we've won it rubbed off on the younget inexperienced players.
Nathan Cleary was NOT one these players. In fact, Cleary knew NSW were in trouble the ten minutes leading to half time.
Johns still lives in a dream. He repeatedly brings up Game 2 in this year's series and how QLD were flogged. This became instantly irrelevant when QLD through DCE's captaincy won the 2022 State of Origin series !
Waffling on repeatedly about NSW flogging QLD after losing thd Series is evidence of both being a sore loser AND thd fact that Fittler and Johns stuffed up big time.
THE ACCUSATION
A few NSW Radio stations ran brief polls about QLD taking Sate of Origin more seriously. In most of these polls the overwhelming consensus WAS that it did appear that QLD did take this series and especially, this 2022 decider far more seriously. This is where 'the accusation' came from. NSW fans ard sick of losing unlosable State of Origin series.
Andrew Johns claiming 'we have to hear this BS for another 13 months "
IS suitable Karma AND well deserved.
I'm from NSW and don't blame the players.
Fittler and his clique, including Johns lost the game and series.
As Phil Gould said, they ( Fitter & Johns) should have known that DCE is a seasoned campaigner as is Munster AND Billy Slater and Cameron Smith have been there.
DCE was in the 2020 team regarded as 'the worst QLD ever' and won the unwinnable series.
The problem is that Johns and Fittler don't take DCE seriously and now they embarrassingly have lost two Series that were a shoe in.
@@FrostedSeagull you just wrote a whole lot of words that really meant nothing.
First of all, Queensland continue to push this underdog status which is having a great effect on casual fans. I’ve heard so many Queenslanders state that NSW should be 5/5 in the last 5 series. NSW had 11 debutants in 2018 (including a 20 year old halfback). How do you say that a side with that many debutants should beat a side featuring Slater, Inglis, Munster, Gagai, Chambers (You have roughly 80 games of origin experience between just those 5 players).
Look at the current Dally M leaderboard. Majority of the players are Queenslanders. I would bet my house on the fact that when origin time comes around, Queenslanders will make out like they are going into the series with a team of no names and if they win it is due to the “passion”.
Ponga - A million dollar a season player.
Munster - A million dollar a season player, 2 x premiership winner and considered by many to be the best player in the world.
Cherry-Evans - A million dollar a season player, 1 x premiership winner.
Grant - considered by many to be the best hooker in the game.
That is a fucking brilliant spine and you are kidding yourself if you believe that a team with those names has no chance of winning.
This was actually a bit of a therapy session for Joey. He needed that ♥️
As a Queensland supporter, I have nothing but respect for Andrew J here. He's a legend of the game, a really passionate supporter and he provides insights others don't. Thanks Joey.
How old are you? 10? U don't remember?
Johns... the Self Confessed Drug taking Cheat
I'm a queenslander. I like Joey's words. Because it shows passion and what origin means. But the blues aren't a lesser side they just didn't win. For what ever reason. But I will say, what ever anyone says about both teams, someone has to win and someone has to lose. The winner is always gonna say what they did best. The loser will look at what they did wrong but people who look at the other team etc and Plat the blame game is not good on sportsmanship and what origin really is. Joey talks about Tom and Latrell. Talk about what is and not what if? That's what's not right.
Well said
The State of Origin was a superb game by two teams. It kinda transcended the interstate rivalry, and will go into folklore as one of the truly great games of League. And to be this type of cliffhanger game both teams had to put in totally on the night. The blues contributed as much as the maroons, but there can only be one team with more points on the board at fulltime. Because of their contribution I feel both teams were winners in a sense. It was that good I was actually applauding play by both sides. Absolutely loved it.
It reminded me of the great All Blacks and Wallabies game around 2000 when the All Blacks won in the last minute with a try by Jonah Lomu. This was after the lead had changed a number of times, and was played at a frenetic pace. Rugby was the winner that night. Last Wednesday league was the winner at Suncorp. I will take another sneaky look at it again in a few days.
What a great comment, well said and agreed!
Don't change Joey. I'm a proud QLDer and I like that you wear your heart on your sleeve.
It’s good to see that Joey was disappointed. It shows passion and it’s what keeps origin exciting.
It’s okay for Cam Smith to yell and support his team from the commentary but god forbid Joey shows a bit of emotion & passion 🤨
Called a bad sport crybaby.
its great. at least freddy will have a think about what he's done to the entire state
Plus he is a bad looser .Wake up Joey you can't handle the heat get over it.
Sour grapes....
Thank you Joey for making it a bit easier to watch the highlights
Love the passion from Joey. I think its the difference between the analysis from Nine vs Fox. You have Joey, Fittler, Smith, Slater, Lockyer who have bled for their state year in year out vs Paul Kent who filled in at half-back for a game and Buzz who is a washed up journalist. All of them have strong opinions but I don't care for Fox
I'm Qld born & bred, & a mad Maroons fanboy, but even I know the whole "it means more to Qld" thing is at best a half-truth that depends on the circumstances, & at worst a BS ploy that gets trotted out to troll the Blues. I hated Paul Gallen as much as the next Qlder, but looked at impartially it would be hard to find anyone who was more passionate - rabid, even- about winning Origin than him. The fact that he kept showing up against a pretty unstoppable Qld team for a decade proves that. Each loss hurt him more than the last. In the same way, I hated Luke Lewis when he was in a blue jersey, but he would be the first bloke I'd pick to play alongside me - bloody legend NEVER stopped ripping in and although often in a losing team, was frequently the best player on the field.
No this blues team doesn’t care as much as QLd. People like luai, to’o they can’t wait to play for Samoa or whatever. They just play cuz they get selected. They don’t care at all
@@samatkins2096 as long as luai's eyebrows are manicured for the TV he's happy
@@paulywalnutz5855 he has a point though. No way Talakai and Luai can match the Origin spirit of Deardon, Munster & Jack Wighton.. to name examples
Well said Joey.. and i agree with you.. I think the jersey means just as much to a Cockroach as it does to a Cane Toad. I'm a QLD'er Toad through and through, but I absolutely love your passion and love for the Blue's.. Get off his back people!! this is what Origin is all about!! don't ever hold back Joey!!!! LOVE IT BROTHER 😂🤣
Love your analysis and commentary Joey, and it’s nice to see some passion in Origin. Good on you for backing your corner. Also props to Danika, you bring the best out of the people you interview!
Joey just needs to let Danika finish the question. He's always too quick to answer and interrupts her quiet a bit. Might be the ADD.
@@Jason-tb6xp I think he was more like that this episode because he’s obviously still gutted from Origin. And probably a bit rattled by the criticism he received. I haven’t noticed him interrupt her often in other episodes.
I'm certain both qld and nsw supporters loved the passion shown by Joey. Keep the real fans happy and keep doing you Joey
On ya Joey, love to see you wear your heart on your sleeve, your a bloody legend to the game.....and I'm a hard core Queensland support. Don't stop your passion, that's what makes this the best game in the world.
A good example why people say it means more for QLD is being in Brisbane on game day. The place is buzzing, the city is alive with Origin fever, lots of promotion, lots of local businesses get behind it. Walk down Caxton Street on the night and during the day, it should be on every sports lovers bucket list, its insane.
Now, walk around Sydney city on game day, have a look around you wouldn't know the game was on, even getting close to Homebush Park which is a little bit away from the city, you wouldn't know anything was happening until sundown, a few lights get turned on, and a few shops open, otherwise the place looks like a ghost town which is how it usually is.
Talk to people around the city about the game, they either don't know about it, or about rugby league in general.
Sydney is full of freaks and other all sorts. Also head to one of League's old heartlands, Newtown, they're all sipping on their lattes, eating Paleo bread, Thai dumplings, and watching re-runs of Friends. You wouldn't come across a league or sports fan there now, there's some there but they hide due to the freaks down through King Street.
Its a totally different feel in QLD, all through the state on game day, there's something happening, all up and down the coast line, even Brisbane Airport is humming, as well as the Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, Townsville, Toowoomba, Mackay, Rockhampton, Cairns, you name it.
NSW on the other hand, the Central Coast leagues might put on a blue themed chicken raffle and put the match on the big screen with the sound down. For pensioners only.
NSW needs to do more to promote the game.
Great comment. It helps explain a lot to a Blues supporter like me what the cultural difference is for the supporters, city and state. Sydney is just too big, too diverse and to distracted to compete with what you described above in Qld. Not the players, of course, I am sure it means the world, but the culture down here just can't compete with that Qld state-but-small-town feel.
@@johnblack8655 There is a bit of that, I grew up in Sydney, but originally from Brisbane, I travel a lot in between the 2 states, always thought of myself as a QLD'er, but anyway, there's NSW and Sydney being much larger and more cosmopolitan, but still where's the promotion, local businesses, like pubs and clubs hardly promote the game? Supermarkets in Brisbane are selling out merchandise, all over the city there's entertainment, street theatre, Origin themes for everything, right through Queen street there are banners everywhere, like I said not just in Brisbane but through regional areas as well, everyone knows the game is on, there's lots of talk, you hardly hear it in NSW, have to be at a local RSL to see and hear something.
Surely the NSW government in conjunction with the NRL can lift its game, where there's a will.
@@cameronhesketh6814 Yeah, I hear ya mate, fair enough. More promotion can only help!
Thank you to Danika for bringing Andrew Johns to open up about his true passion of the State of Origin and his thoughts from his heart about the performance of the Blues. We all admire the sportsmanship of both sides, but just like any other sports with two highly competitive teams, the best performing team team wins. I am a staunch Queensland Maroon Supporter but had they lost, the same praises would go to the NSW Blues. I was just thinking loud that, instead of the NSW Blues criticisms against the coach Brad Fittler who has done an excellent job in masterminding and pooling together a very strong NSW Blues team, former Rugby Greats should provide Technical assistance as Assistant Coaches. Maybe give a chance to Andrew Johns to coach the NSW Blues. Please give Gus a break. He deserves it but like Gus' "expert comments as well.
If it’s insulting, then even better.
Queenslanders grew up hating you, when you put on that jersey and I guess we do intend it as an insult when we say NSW don’t get origin 😁
I’m a Queensland fan and admire the passion and honesty from Joey, it shows it means allot to him , respect to him
Yeah. He was honest enough to admit he was a drug taking Cheat.
The Immoral Immortal
"Australia Kangaroos"
1. James Tedesco (c)
2. Valentine Holmes
3. Latrell Mitchell
4. Matt Burton
5. Kalyn Ponga
6. Daly Cherry-Evans
7. Nathan Cleary
8. Lindsay Collins
9. Harry Grant
10. Isaah Yeo
11. Liam Martin
12. Cameron Murray
13. Patrick Carrigan
Interchange:
14. Cameron Munster
15. Angus Crichton
16. Kurt Capewell
17. Rueben Cotter
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18. Ben Hunt
19. Jack Wighton
Coach: Mal Maninga
I am a dyed-in-the-wool Queenslander and I am 70+ years old. I have seen every game of origin. Usually, during a series, I detest Johns (he is such a sook), Gould, Fittler and all the rest of those NSW players.I laugh at the Sydney sport Journos Kent, Phil Rothsomething, and the rest of those twits who give the blues so much BS they start believing it and lose........ But.....If there is one thing I do know, an origin Jersey means as much and the same to the NSW players as it does to us Queenslanders. I have seen it with my own eyes so no one can tell me differently. Having said that, QLD has always had a bit more quiet, determined mongrel in them and become more 'Tribal' when our backs are against the wall than the blues. Congrats to the QLD boys for winning a great decider and the series, we are all bursting with pride for OUR TEAM.
Love your work Joey! The whole of NSW was feeling the same that night! Great to see your passion at the post game show.!
Wasn't it Gus that started the QLD jersey means more to us than the blues jersey means to them?
No this narrative started in the 80s
I've got no issue with the great man he's invested in the team on a personal level freddy even more these 2 guys were warriors from a qld fan
Who's this "great" man you speak of?? Can't be John's, he's just an up himself, over rated entitled flog!..
@@thrusta100 in your sleep with a box of tissues handy, yeah...
Peter sterling, both eyes open n called the game as it was
He was my favourite commentator. Called the game from a completely neutral position and SO much knowledge of the game.
@@kers225abk2 he was the best but he wasnt 100% neutral. You could hear his emotion and pain when NSW or Parramatta lost. And thats how it should be, hes not a robot
Brilliant game both sides gave all true champions .
Thought Joey’s comments after game was out there but after watching this exchange his passion and knowledge of the game from this legend changes my view … true Ledg and I’m a Queenslander through and through
As s blues fan, i can say definitely...the blues very rarely can dig deep for a win like the QLDers.
Good win Cane toads.👍
Im a queenslander but come on the series was so close. NSW almost dug deep to win in Suncorp… The difference could’ve been putting in diehard Origin players like Jack Wighton
@@clutch7548 it was a good series, but the toads dig deeper
@@hyster16t they did .. but you cant knock guys like Wighton & Jake T, they always give 110% Fitler needs to pick guys like that to match QLD’s intensity
@@clutch7548 game 2 did that nsw team match Qld intensity?
Legend Joey, absolutely right. If you haven’t taken the field in Origin than you don’t know. I am a Queensland supporter and Joey always supports both sides.
This all started back in 1980 with QLD fueled up on the absolute burn of having to watch their state getting done by NSW for decades . More to the point , these NSW teams were stacked with Queenslanders as a result of QLD having a lot of their best players being poached from Brisbane & Queensland into Sydney.
The Maroons started out as underdogs who felt they had been given a bad deal for a long time .
They have never let go of that burn nor have they ever lost the satisfaction they experienced when they finally had the chance to give it back to NSW in 1980. They have passed on those qualities and it has taken on a life on it's own over the decades .
Why do you think certain clubs in the NRL have rivalries that have lasted for many decades ?
They don't forget where it started .Not only that , any unsavoury clashes or Big games that pepper the history of clubs keep the rivalries alive.
Well the Maroons and Blues play 3 Big games every single year and QLD have thrown any wood onto that fire every single time that NSW have insulted them in any shape or form in the years since . They will feed on anything , including real or perceived slights from fans or a bad rub from a referee.
I love that fact that Joey Johns is so passionate , but he misses the bigger picture here.
He is not seeing the constant thread that leads us back 42 years .
He is not seeing the amount of times the Maroons have won against the odds over the years along with
their history being dotted with incredible last minute and come from behind victories .
The kind of wins and moments that are nowhere near as common for NSW.
NSW got a grip on what it took to compete at Origin level mentally when Gus Gould took the reigns , and they also had the players to go with QLD and get over them . But QLD have never lost that so called X-factor , even when they struggled.
NSW certainly HAS had players over the years that have bled and left their hearts on the field . Completely drained and smashed after a Victory AND totally gutted after a loss. QLD has simply had MORE of these players than NSW ever had .
Joey is insulted with the HIS Passion in the Blue jersey being compared to QLD .Well maybe if more Blues players had his kind of fire and hurt like he did and does , then NSW would be better off .
Fans who have NEVER played Origin know what Full blooded passion looks like . We all witnessed that with Andrew ,amongst others over the last 42 years . We also know what it looks like when it is NOT there in the same measure in some players .
Queensland live and breath State of Origin and always have . The Maroons have dug deeper more often than New South Wales over the years because their well runs deeper .
I saw this exact comment on Fox . The more i read it , the more i agree. Andrew Johns is a passionate Blue and always has been but misses the whole point .
you know what is a myth? Joey himself, Alfie was a better player, a hill I'm willing to die on
That’s the shittest comment I’ve ever seen in my life
Langer couldn't beat out Ricky Stuart for the Australian jersey and Joey was arguably better than Ricky.
@@vlt873 neither could joey,he was only selected in 1995 due to Ricky's affiliation with super league 😂 the 2001 origin series comeback by Alfie was better than either half ever did
It’s certainly great for International footy when these pacific Island guys can play for their country of heritage and play for the state in which they were raised.
True, but dont you think a kid like Deardon wants it more than Luai? Hes not divided at all
@@clutch7548 do you have a child and a missuz?
Does your love for your nissuz dissapear bcoz you have a child?
Racist af
@@ipwnism racist? You have got to be kidding me 🤣🤣🤣
We have a limited playing pool compared to NSW. We generally must punch above our weight to win. Its the most tribal and means more to me than any game in any sport. I don't blame Joey for his passion and devastation.👍
Exactly Joey.The only reason Queensland had their winning streak was because of Smith ,Thurston, Cronk, Slater and Inglis.Nothing what so ever to do with having more passion.
Now NSW if they had Tommy, latrell Hass and the current halves on the field at the same time a winning streak would be happening for the blues.
You don't really believe that do you?
@@eddielasowsky7777 so you believe it's Queensland passion lol ok buddy so where was the passion game 2 and you do remember Tommy and latrell ripping the toads apart last year lol where was the passion.The fact is everyone is passionate about their state but you toads actually think you are better human beings then the rest of Australia.
Grow up.
@@OZIPUG1970 That's the problem with the blues, when everything goes well you are happy to shout about it, but when it doesn't and you struggle, you have no heart. THAT'S the difference.
@@OZIPUG1970 so ‘queensland passion’ doesnt exist? What a ridiculous statement😂
& maybe you shouldnt bank on having every single player healthy🤣 you know NSW has a way deeper talent pool right? So u need that AND no injuries? Gotcha
@@eddielasowsky7777 you've never played the game have you little boy.
Where was the heart for Queensland last year and game 2 this year🤔grow up and get back in your mother's basement.
Joey's free to weep for the Blues. I weep with joy watching him weep. Keep it up, Joey.
17:00 YES!!!!! State of origin is for Queensland and New South Wales. Play the grand final of the “national” rugby league all over country and even New Zealand. But origin should be played in Queensland or New South Wales. I’m open to it being played in places like Townsville or newcastle if they’ve got a venue up to those standards but playing Queensland vs New South Wales in Perth is a joke.
Definitely look at Newcastle or Townsville, but I bet they won't be able to match what Perth, Adelaide, or Melbourne are willing to pay the NRL to host a game, its the NRLs and Oz sports most prized asset, State Of Origin, its the only product the AFL is jealous of, keep it that way.
nah it's chill if theyre willing to pay for it and the stadium fills up.
It's all about the money mate.
Nah, I like having one game in neutral grounds. As long as the decider is in one of the two states. I would even like to see a game one in PNG given how much they love to follow it.
@@cameronhesketh6814 Those additional States you mention also had teams in the Super League and WA has expressed interest in fielding a team again. The sport cannot go into a shell
It aint a myth, it's not just the players it's the fans too. Qld people have a love for origin nsw will never have
The Dru...gs have effected his brain
He has no idea.... He's got the mentality of a 10 year old..
@@kurt10k74 why are you talking about your dropped dad like that Princess?
@@whatagup4799 I love the NSW dynasty we are in, so good
@@kurt10k74 dynasty? We won the 2 out of the last 3 games. NSW has no dynasty 😂
Andrew Johns is full of EXCUSES.
He is crying like a spoilt little toddler.
He does NOT live inside the hearts and souls of QLD players to know how much the QLD jersey means to the Maroons players.This is the reason QLD win despite the underdog tag.
Look at him. Can’t wait to hear him sooking again this year
The only saving grace for the sanity of Joey is that he conceded that the Kangaroo no.7 should be DCE. This upcoming tour is the perfect place to ease young Nathan into the game's highest honour for the years to come.
No one wants clearly in the kangaroos except for panthers supports
DCE will be there. Meninga is coach.
Kangaroos world cup squad are like 25 people, cleary will be in there somewhere
@@MungasaurusBravo69420 bro thats not the question😂 the big question is WHO IS THE HALFBACK. The #7 … Being the backup isnt worth as much
@@clutch7548 at this stage probably DCE but there still the rest of the season and finals to go, if cleary wins another comp then i dare say he might be ahead of DCE in my opinion
Short answer is, when QLD are rubbished and told they can't or won't win they more often than not pull off a miracle. NSW under Ricky Stuart had a chance to bloody the nose of QLD and take a series despite QLD having a team of legends, but they didn't. QLD make the most of the origin mythology and win series when no one backs them to. They won in Sydney first up, won in Brisbane yet Joey wants to talk about 1 half of football in Perth, I know sportsmen are bad losers by nature, but he needs to be honest with himself.
Yes they were rubbished burned to the soul but wait a miracle they took back the win and pledged NSW into darkness
To Joey’s point, worth remembering what Teddy Roosevelt said 112 years ago: “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
Glorious quote
As a Victorian . It always seemed NSW just didn’t get origin. Just a neutral perspective
cause ur victorian stay in ur lane
Yeah well your wrong champ
@@thecricketer7928 you’re *
Joey is spot on but he's referring to a different generation of players who had passion and pride to play for NSW. Some of the players in this current Blues squad are more proud of themselves rather than the jersey.
Luai is a horrible example of what the blues are about, he’s just too cocky and wouldn’t shut up about representing Samoa in the lead up to a decider. He just plays off the back of Cleary’s magic and doesn’t offer anything by himself. Hopefully he gets dropped next year and Wighton gets that #6
I think you hit it on the head i think its why the maroons have those ex great players in the camp to preach that passion and pride within the team to remind them what origin is
Stop sooking Joey, win or shut up. NSW have been putting together incredible superstar teams for years and the coaching and management staff cant get it right. coach em or be quiet
Last year all 3 games in Queensland, who won ?
Joey is exactly right. The skill of the game is hijacked by pointless small minded dribble. The belittling comments stems from insecurity itself. They must remind themselves how important they are by making you feel less important. Adults that have never grown up unfortunately.
Silly comment. Joey is not right. It's his reaction that is childish. Queensland do have something extra being more passionate for the cause. NSW have lost 2 series out of the last 5, with a far superior talent pool. You can see how desperate they are, everytime they flog Queensland in a series, they start talking about "dominating for a decade" and "their own dynasty", then they lose the next year. That's arrogance. They said the same back in 2005, when they had won 3 series in a row and were looking dominant, then we all know what happened from 2006 onward. Queensland stuck it to the superior blues team twice this series, and they couldn't handled it. History repeating itself.
@@allanrogers6599 as I said Allan, insecurity keeps telling itself how good am I.
I'm special, look at me, how special am I, how much more passion do I have. You're so caught up in yourself you missed the whole point.
Maroons choose character, Blues choose talent .. Too much tika in that Maroons side 💯
When they say it means more to them I don’t think they’re referring to the fact that they’ve been underdogs for the past couple of years and still won
You always give yourself too much to do when you lose game 1 at home.
Blues are flat track bullies. Win by big scores when the maroons bend over then lose a close game when Queensland toughen up. Queensland compete harder and scrap for everything.
We listen to him and Gus every year. I love that he’s hurting
I spent 30 seconds trying to get my headphones and windows audio settings working - good intro
I am a Maroon's supporter all my life. You are right, No one should say that what was said. Two great teams played and the best won! That is all.
Joey is right, however, anyone who would say that about the jersey could not pull one on. I'm a QLDer but never put down the jersey, because there's a massive heat in every one of them.
I think it’s an insult to imply that both teams have equal spirit Joey. Time and time again QLD have proven how deep they can dig, the blues have very few matches under their belt where they grinded out an incredible comeback win. NSW have had some blistering wins, but there is something about the Maroons ability to claw back matches that are seemingly unwinnable, that we haven’t seen as much from a blues squad.
Neither of qlds wins were comebacks lol we haven’t done that in ages
@@bl5050 they were down 12-6 a minute before the half numpty
In an Origin decider every try is a big deal, so its a comeback
@@clutch7548 thats not a comeback mate. That's called a tight game. One ball possession in it.
@@timof972 it is a comeback though. Like Teddy & Joey have said. NSW were up in more ways than the scoreboard. They were winning period.
So to get a crucial try on halftime then perform way better in the 2nd half, they came back
Clutch7 you’re forgetting numerous disallowed qld tries, missed opportunities etc score could’ve gotten out way more than 10
I'm 110% QLD Supporter but I definitely agree with Joey he was spot on with what he said about Origin and passion for the Jersey!! Well said. Peace ✌
The thing is we use to have players like joey who would do everything and anything to win, but those players now are far and few between for NSW. Tedesco and Jake Trbojevic and that's it. Where as Queensland have a cult mentality, and will do everything to win as a collective. The current NSW side don't have that, and have only had that in a few series in the past.
Okay armchair critic
I fully agree, QLD payers want to play for Qld, NSW players want to play origin (except for a few exceptions). That’s the big difference, you cannot tell me that Chricton, Luia, even blokes like Cleary, have the same passion for NSW as Deardon, DCE, Gagai have for QLD.
@@dustinmartin6524 Exactly
Gagai gets himself up for 3 games a year and that's the origin series. Ponga has been playing like a busted for 2 seasons, but Wednesday night he had the game of he's career. Who does that for NSW ? Jarryd Hayne did a few times, and players 20 and 30 years ago like Joey and Laurie Daley.
@@stevvvvveperry Tom Trbojevic, Jake Trbojevic, James Tedesco, Jack Wighton, Cameron Murray, are a few names that that step up for origin or at least put in 110%
@@thecricketer7928 yeah true. I forgot about Murray, he's a great player.
Well said Joey.. as a Queenslander it’s always felt arrogant to say “ Queensland spirit won” I’m sure all 34 players every year on that field have the exact same passion and spirit to play for their state..
I would love to hear Andrew Johns explain 1995 origin series to me. How does that QLD win 3-0 against that NSW team. The only thing I can think of is that it meant more to QLD. There has been many times NSW are far more talented on paper but QLD win
Doesn't seem much as changed.
Queenslander!!
I guess he just cant relate since he loves NSW so much. Hes one player who had as much passion as any Queenslander does for their state
And I would love to hear you explain how QLD got held to a fat zero in Suncorp last year in what technically was "a decider" had they had enough "HEART OR PRIDE" to make it an equalizer. And yes, on paper, the territory alone favored them heavily being an all Qld hosted series.
@@redone6171 thats one game dude… and Queensland had a worse team
Do you realise what happened in 1995? It wasnt the underdog getting flogged one game… THE HEAVY FAVOURITE LOST 3-0
Well said Joey, the NSW fans know how you feel. We still feel the scars of the 8 years of suffering - Never forget.
"We're talking about something that doesn't exist"
Yeah. NSW pride.
say that too gallen and bird lmao face down ass up bayby
Great points by Joey of the meaning of the jersey! Absolutely spot on about game 2 🙏 So valid to feel that way! Really hope NSW win next year
Joey needs to go watch 6 Tackles With Gus posted YESTERDAY😂 Gus spends ages talking about how Origin means more to Queensland
It is true in SOME cases, in the sense that Queensland kids would rather play for QLD than Australia or any NRL club
Yeah that’s the main difference Queensland kids grow up wanting to play for Queensland. New south Welshmen grow up wanting to play for Australia. The jerseys are equally valuable but the mentality around is different. I know south’s fans that’d gladly watch 10 origin defeats in a row for 5 rabbits grand final wins. Id watch the broncos get 10 wooden spoons for Queensland to win every series.
Yep guy at my work cares more about Manly. Doesnt want Manly players picked for NSW would prefer Turbo and Jurbo dont get picked. Meanwhile I couldnt care if Broncos lost every single player and they all got injured for the season if it meant winning Origin.
The thing the complaining-Aussies (not all of them. Only the complaining ones) don’t get, is the Samoans, Tongans and Fijians playing for Qld, NSW or Australia and then choose their respective countries, are actually making the International competition that bit stronger.
Until these nations become Tier 1, then obviously it can’t happen anymore. But that means the International competition is strong enough anyway.
Completely agree. I even like it when someone born in Australia plays for the team their parents came from. Rugby league has grown as much as it can in Australia, everything that helps the international competition is great for sport.
@@michaelhall5429 yea especially those really Australian ones with names Australians can’t even pronounce. Those Australians
Fair enough joey. But from a 15 year army veteran, do,t call a sporting oval a battlefield.
Yeah that one gets old. Athletes claiming they’re “going to war” or the “heat of battle” nah you’re playing a sport. It ain’t the same.
It's an expression
No need to get all funny about it, no one is saying the Battlefields are the same. It’s just a saying for the Footy field where they’re physically battling against 13 other athletes.
Goodbye all sports sayings “hes fast as lighting” …. ‘Well actually lightning is way faster’
Context is important mate battlefield is used for many things as an expression other than war , my grandfathers battlefield was cancer that he fought for 7 years when he was supposed to die in 2 lasted an extra 5 he often talked about that battlefield of illness he fought
How can he say it doesnt mean more? He doesnt know. Qlders dont know. Joey was never a Qlder. Qlders were never Blueys.
In saying that the only Bluey in my office of 10 hardly ever watches Origin and has never been to a game. He doesnt care if they win or lose. My mate from the UK said when he lived in NSW you wouldnt even know the game is on or that it was played the day before. Meanwhile in Qld it was all you heard of all day leading up to it and for days after unless Qld lose in which case its like working in a morgue all Thursday/Friday.
Greg inglis would know
icmull💯💯💯💯👏👏👏👏spot on, I'm a QUEENSLANDER THROUGH THICK AN THIN, live in Campbelltown nsw and I can tell u, had to drop me son to work after the game and driving through the streets, it was quiet🤫🤫🤫🤫u could hear a coin drop.
Well said Joey, especially listening to the BS from Sydney "sports" journalists.
qld have heart that nsw don't. Nsw have always had the better team but qld have always wanted it more.
If they won that means qld had the better team.
If Cam smith had said what Joey said whether passionate or not the reaction from NSW fans would be very similar. It goes both ways. As for what has been said about the passion, there is evidence which proves it to be true to some extent. This isn't the first time a Queensland team with their back to the wall have fought there way to a win. It's not like Kent and Rothfield have just plucked this notion out of thin air. Many rookies or Fringe NRL player have grown another leg when they pull on a Maroons jersey more often than not and while im sure there are a few exceptions the same is not true for NSW on a whole. I'm sure NSW players are passionate to some degree about their jersey, but I just think Queensland are more passionate and proof is in the pudding.
This is why Joey was such a great player.
Origin is the accumulation of moments and if you perform better and get to have those moments then your most likely going to the be the winner it has nothing to do with determination and passion coming from a qld fan
Give Joeie a tissue if you saw how NSW treated Queensland in the 70s no sympathy from me mate
IMO joey has the best strategic mind when it comes to rep footy, he probly also has the strongest aura and spirit in nrl aswell. for this man not to be a coach would be a darn shame and a waste of talent. can definately understand where fatty was coming from! hes trying to throw nsw a bone lol
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@@haroldhopkins7719 how is that relevant to his comment numb nuts? And all those players cant play on one team lol
@@clutch7548 ?Brad Filter should know better?
@@haroldhopkins7719 just miss Turbo like that when he’s better than everyone you just mentioned bar Latrell
Well said Joey. I’m a proud New South Welshman, but I have loved the great players on both sides who have played some amazing rugby league and showed me some incredible skill - and why this is the best game on the planet. The State of Origin was always the curtain raiser for the best Kangaroo sides to come from NSW & QLD. At least we will have a superb Aussie team for the WC!
Yeah I'm from NZ and there's this chat now that we are a real threat at the World Cup after our performance against Tonga. I can't understand it.
I watched Origin and both those teams would destroy us, the speed is far too much... I cannot imagine how amazing a mix of both these teams would be.
@@ryanway9346 mate, your amazing homeland is definitely in with a chance. I love NZ, and they have one of the best half backs in Kieran Foran ( I met him, and he is a champ!) - there definitely could be upset! Either way, we will be winning with some awesome footy on display! Kia Ora mate!!
@@lildrum78 cheers bro, definitely some kind words about NZ there!
Fozza is the man, he's a legend of NZ rugby league....
I don't know if he will be starting in the big games anymore though, with Hughes and Brown playing at such high level but can't wait !
Latrell Mitchell should of made himself available.
I couldn't imagine a Queenslander saying he wants to concentrate on his club footy and snub his state team
Surely you’re kidding, right? He’s played one game since coming back from a recurring hamstring injury which has plagued his career. South’s paid $100k to send him over. He made a mature choice to show respect to Souths and to the Blues and say he wasn’t fit for Origin.
What Joey was saying the Queensland jersey DOESN'T MEAN MORE
Thats BS. Im a queenslander but Latrell had barely played all season and would be taking someone elses spot who won game 2… He did the SELFLESS thing
I will never get sick of watching this.
love joey talking about those journo flogs on nrl360
I'm sorry, but the heroics of QLD in the second half is WHY we have more passion for our Jersey than NSW. It happens in most deciders. Eight in a row, the 2020 win and this series win are proof. More often than not, we are more determined to not let our state down and more determined to put everything on the line to win more than NSW. That is just 100% a fact and you can see it's happened.
This may sound stupid. As an AFL person I love origin. But Queensland seem to just want it more you can see it in the body language year after year
As a qld fan your spot on joey and much respect
`As an ex soldier I find it insulting when you keep saying origin is a battlefield Origin is a very good tough game, game being the operative word, in a battlefield you put your life on the line in origin you only put your body on the line
It’s not that deep mate
Its a figure of speech, not literal. Metaphors are used everywhere in life
Funny thing it is it’s not Queensland saying it 🤦🏻♂️ it’s NSW supporters or community
Well then Joey, you need to explain why NSW are always favourites? In this game, they were strong favourites!! Even during QLD dynasty of 8 series wins, rarely did QLD start a series as the favourite, despite having legends of the game playing. So I can only imagine NSW must believe they are the stronger team on paper? If that is the case, then there must be some other reason why QLD has now won many more series?
Joey doesn’t make the odds mate
You have a point. Saw a bunch of NSW fans saying ‘we gifted them a win, we were way better on paper’
I think 1-17 Queensland had a really strong team on paper anyway
@@samsmith29 boo hoo
@@clutch7548 they are so arrogant it's unbelievable
perfect example about how much a blue doesn't understand what its about, sorry joey its not the jersey its what ticks under it and the humbleness that goes along with it
Exactly it's the arrogance of the blues players that beats them year after year.
Man I love watching Joey have a sook and a meltdown 😂 Classic!
its pretty good ay, goes to show how certain he and freddy were that nathan was going drop 50 points on QLD with a runaway NSW victory 😂😂
The man gets paid for his experience,insight and knowledge. If you want to throw in some passion well that just makes it better.
Dont let what a few say be the basis for what being a Origin player/fan means all sides were willing to go down hard for their prospective sides the last test was well faught and well earned chin up Joey it was a great series
NSW doesn't have the same passion as Queensland. Never had and never will.
Both Statesdesire to win is the same, its comes down to who has the better tactics and can capitalize on the errors of the opposition
Case in point, DCE and hunt had the better kicking game and tus qld bogged nsw in their own half in the second 40.
Then everytime nsw were about to flip momentum back and get into qlds half they dropped the ball or threw a bad pass, then another, then another
All that extreme levels of defensive pressure mounted up and nsw were still in the game with 2 minutes to go, hunt taking that cleary was just extras because qld still were 4 points ahead.
No one was talking qld spirit last year when game 1 50 - 6 and game 2 26-0 happened
Credit to qld they payed tactically better and capitalized on nsw mistakes more.
“Its a myth” - Andrew Johns
Love the guy
Greatest player ever played great commentator love his knowledge on the game
I’m a die hard Qlder
You goose.... not even his brother thinks John's is better than JT. Pull your head in.
@@sn.783 ok
Joey was bagging ut qld the week before the 3rd game, got interviewed with Locky, and could get the grin off his face when Munster was out of the team saying they can't win or score enough points without him. He said he felt sorry for NSW cos they wanted to play the best side QLD had to offer. Hahaha Well, NSW lost the unlosable game cos they didn't bring it and you are salty as. Nobody said anything about jumpers on the night. if you're going to give it, then take it.
Danika is awesome and I am with Joey on this only true Blue fans are feeling hurt
As a Queenslander I don't understand the criticism of NSW. Game 1 was decided with a tackle on the try line in the last minute, game 2 NSW were completely dominant, game 3 if Cleary's chip kick gets over the top NSW most probably score.