I remember giving up trying to learn this by ear back as a teenager. Someone eventually showed me it but Johnny Marr's playing was always like nobody else's back in '84. He always came up with really unique and interesting parts.
Without a little experiences learning by ear... it's a little hard to know this song. But think about it. They wrote this song so there are a few songs that influence these musicians. Always go back a few steps so you can go forward. When you stuck, simple! You need to go back! Yes!
@@kaykay9959 not true. There are parallels in style by its accidental. Has said as much in multiple interviews. He played up to better pair with Morrissey voice as well as have his parts stand out better
‘This Charming Man’ is a masterpiece in writing, arranging and guitar playing. One of those songs that by simply learning it makes you a better player. Great video!
@@DaBears08 I made the mistake of learning it note for note then watching Johnny Marr play it completely differently. Are ALL the tabs wrong in the world! 😂
I love the way you teach, Tomo! You focus on what's important, in a very simple way, nothing is convoluted and unnecessarily hard. And you always remind us to have fun. Fantastic guitar teacher, honored to have this on RUclips and being able to study with you.
The fact that you got the core of Marr's guitars on this track right away, assuming that you've never played it before, shows that you are a professional.
lol i love this guy, he has such a sweet logical patient demeanor with good humor a rock star hairstyle and killer guitar skills, theres nothing not to like
Hi tomo. This was a great song to pick because its iconic among musicians. I think it is important to pick songs as interesting and relevant as this song, and not to do so many popular songs that people lose interest. There are many youtubers making similar videos, but they choose songs that gets lot of clicks and eventually those videos get boring. Youre a very unique teacher and on this special occasion you've picked a great song. My recommendation (since you asked) is to keep your videos feeling special and different than everybody else. So far, great job!
Thank you so much! Thank you for sharing! I used to think I should do something popular because of more views. I am into more education so I would like to pick good songs! I thought this video was just okay but I really surprised with many great comments (more passion about this music) Thank you!
Thanks for going over this song, It's so encouraging to see a guitarist as talented as you have trouble with the rhythm and melody on this great song. This song is a puzzle but once you solve it it's pure bliss.
@@spartan.falbion2761areed, no one uses “underrated” correctly. JM is literally a guitar hero and every guitarist worth his salt knows his music. 🤷🏼♂️
@Schaz42 I would say Marr is a guitarists guitarist rather then a mass appeal guitar hero. He's a hero to guitar players, the masses however would underrate how brilliant he is.
Learning this song has been a dream of mine ever since I started playing guitar about 7 years ago. Just watching you more or less effortlessly get the song on 1st listen is so inspirational to me and just maybe I will try learning this song once again. Great vid Master-Tomo!
Love Johnny Marr. Smiths arrangements can be so unusual (eg non-diatonics) and dense it’s great to hear an expert ear-training breakdown to demystify it a little. Some songs you might consider if you like: Cat Power - Say David Bowie - Fame Radiohead - There there Modest mouse - dramamine The Cure - 10:15 saturday night Clash - Rudie can’t fail Thanks Tomo!
This is so helpful! Especially to know it takes time, even for you. But once you get the rhythm of the changes and the intervals, it starts to come together. Great lesson - don't start note for note. Figure out the song first, then use that as the map. More of this would be awesome.
Glad it was helpful! So happy to hear that. I made this in early April. I was not sure whether good video or not? Because I just made it without any preparation. But it's so real! Yes, overall key and vibe first!
Professor Tomo you are one of my top legends, I am in my early fifties and still very hungry for more and more to learn and especially music and I am very blessed to have such a legend excellent outstanding teacher ..yes it is you. So thank you so much and my best regards from ENGLAND 🙏🏼👍👍
Had to watch due to ‘tough’ song selection; Mr Marr always presents a challenge. Well done. Bass is fun to play and epic feels completely different to guitar bit..RIP Andy Rourke
Thank you for demonstrating how you dissect a song to figure it out. I think that this would have been very difficult for me to tab. One of the more enlightening RUclips guitar videos I've watched.
You're very welcome! So refreshing to hear a great original music because I have to listen it very carefully while i am enjoying. This type video is very easy because this is exactly what I do. Learn a song that inspired my student & I will figure out what to fill in between.... Thank you so much!
Ha! They've given you a tough one. It's just a Smiths tune, it's just a 1 4 5, but it's Johnny Marr. I remember a student bringing this to me and had to teach it on the spot. I also remember thinking that a Hodsworth piece would be easier! I'll never underestimate a Smith again. Nice one!
Saw Johnny Marr live about 2 years ago. Not only is he laying down all these intricate guitar lines, he's singing as well. Monster musicians behind him as well.
Ahhh, Tomo, what a fantastic session! So helpful to hear you talk through the structure and your approach, I really appreciate it. It's hard not to get distracted by that amazing bass: wow.
As someone new to guitar, but old in years, these theory analyses are wonderfully helpful. Thank you, Tomo, for sharing your wisdom and your enthusiasm!
From The Smiths to Charlie Christian. One of the reasons I love this channel. Who knew? Tomo mentioned in a comment that he taught John Mayer Rose Room - a song recorded by Charlie Christian with the Benny Goodman Sextet in 1939 - as a great introduction to jazz guitar. But not that he has a great video introduction to the song on RUclips, so that we can try it too. Searching RUclips it was the second video after Charlie's own version. Thanks so much, Tomo.
Tomo Many thanks for laying this stuff out in a way we can all benefit. Your ear is spot on. And so quick. I look forward to learning with you. Very inspirational my friend.
Thanks for this listen/lesson. I know this song is more simple than it sounds but the speed always throws me. It's so funny when you go "oh!" Like it's all figured out. Wish I could get more of those moments. Respect to Tomo and Johnny Marr!
Welcome to the world of Johnny Marr unique is the exact right word. Another great song to explore is London. I saw these guys play in 1985 they were amazing live
My dad was an experienced guitarist ,when I started playing he gave me lessons ,then I played him some Smiths and he didnt have clue what was going on , the keys ,timing ,everything. So I went back to Hendrix
Thank you! Originally I was not going to post this video. I thought my teaching was okay. I just made it without any preparation. Thank you for sharing!
I'm a huge Johnny Marr fan (and a Tomo fan! - ever since I saw you at the White Eagle in Worcester with Wilbur & The Dukes a billion years ago!), but what I love most about this song is Andy's bassline. It just keeps that bounce going throughout and makes it so much fun.
During the hurricane of hair metal guitarists (a lot of whom were great, btw) in the 1980s, Johnny’s lyrical playing really stood out. He’s a little underexposed in guitar circles, so it was cool to hear you analyse this classic Smiths’ song. Cheers.
Thank you for the video. Your method here is how I learned to play by ear back in the 80's. Pickers get faster and faster at seeing patterns. Eventually, that picker can just play along with almost everybody. You just encountered something that used to occur A LOT back in the days of cassettes. The recording labels would change the speed of most songs slightly so they would fit on the cassette albums. It was annoying when I had to learn several new songs quickly. Guitar rule #1: get in tune with your playmates whether that is a recording or live musicians. The benefit if this is that I got good at tuning by ear.
@@TomoFujitaMusic It's fun to reminisce about the things that helped make us well rounded musicians. I often wonder what skill level I would have reached if all those small challenges had not been placed before me. I believe that they made me a better musician.
Johnny Marr is just brilliant. Trying to figure out the chord structure is one thing, but trying to get close to his exact riff on the fly is pretty much impossible. Good fun watching !! The riff is full of double stop 3rds. Released in 1983. He wrote it when he was 18 or 19.. Amazing stuff...
The diatonic stuff and upper structure triad stuff was very interesting! When I went to check out play throughs, some interesting notes: 1) Capo 2 (!), but still flat. This is what makes the open string stuff possible. 2) Lots of slides into arpeggios of the triads. Very nice voicing to make room for the bass and the baritone/baritenor singer. Also thank you for the videos, I love this English 80s music as much as I love the other jazz, blues, funk videos.
It's cool watching you try to figure this out! I don't know anything about music so it didn't really occur to me that it might be difficult to figure out how to play something just from listening to it. It makes sense though! Really cool.
Oh my, we all will love this series Tomo San. And a family affair with your daughter included….how lovely to work with your kid and guitars, you are a lucky man! I heard Bowies Sound & Vision fall out of those A triads around 11 min too….I know what I’m going to be practicing tonight here in London. Thank you! 😊
@@TomoFujitaMusic always great to see you process something, Tomo-san! Especially Johnny Marr! I love the idea for a series too. Can’t wait to see what’s next.
Brilliant lesson in songwriting structures Tommy. And in recognising that when you try to play along to recordings & you don’t sound quite right, it often is that slight tuning difference. Keep these types of lessons coming mate. Take care
I've watched a minute and a half and already know this is a great idea. So glad you decided to do it. As an old guy who dove in the deep end and is learning in the Age of RUclips, I've noticed two kinds of information. The first is knowledge, that needs to be worked on, memorized, translated into your fingers. For me, your Triad videos opened my eyes to that kind of knowledge. The second kind for me is delivering a kind of insight or riff, or trick even, that helps me integrate and extend what I've already "learned." Those bingo moments indicate I'm making progress. Watching an interview with Jerry Garcia, he was asked whether he knew what he was doing in his playing. I interpreted this as asking whether he knew the theory. He said yes, because he wanted to understand why things work. In that sense, I'm like Jerry, but my learning style isn't focused. Hence my reliance on needing the second kinds of information. Two examples. I watched your appearance on another channel where you played Little Wing up an down the fretboard. I decided to try that with a song, Sugaree, I've been working on. The payoff has been amazing. Another channel looked at several versions of Sugaree. An approach I'd love to see on your channel. Garcia was doing tremolo picking and playing triads on multiple string sets. I'd never heard of the first, and hadn't understood the importance of the second, even though I learned the basic from your emphasis on triads. Finally, Garcia's style seems to have changed, from blues, to chord tone soloing, to interval hunting. When I heard that I thought, Tomo!!! I don't completely understand it, and can't do it, but I'm getting closer. Looking forward to more of this kind of content. Thanks.
Thank you so much! Did you watch my Sugaree lesson? I never copied any Jerry Garcia 's solo... but there are many times people asked same "Your solo reminds me Jerry Garcia" I play major scale, triads & pentatonic so it's so similar. Mixing ideas over the chord progressions. Yes, it's so important to know basic music theory & chords. TRIADS! I teach more details at my Guitar Wisdom.
@@TomoFujitaMusic I did watch your Sugaree video, and I will go back to it. At the time, I didn't really understand it. I just didn't know enough then. Interestingly, in this video I understood your triads up the neck because that's what I've been working on in Sugaree. And your comment on hearing open strings is something I've been thinking about. When should you mute an open string at the 12th Fret, say, if it's part of the triad. What makes your analysis of Sugaree especially interesting to me is that both Garcia and John Mayer play it and both have evolved in the way they play it. John said in a video that when he was learning the Dead songs, he'd be practicing, going down one line of thought, and get completely lost. I'd be interested on your take on why even he got lost. Be a great video. And whether you've noticed anything like that in your students. Garcia said that when he got stale, he'd buy a book and work through it. It feels to me that even seeing one small detail can make big changes. I think that has to be why interval hunting is so important. For example. In Sugaree, F# is the V in B Mixolydian, but it's minor. The only other minor is C#, the ii. There are two chromatic runs. From E to F#, the run is E, F, F#, which means you can start on the Root of the D-shaped E chord on the second string and change to the minor shape on reaching the F#. This seems to be something important. Why is F# minor and what is the relationship between the whole step change from major to minor in B Mixolydian? Essentially I'm trying to reverse engineer it, because it sounds really nice, even though Garcia plays it on a different string set. As you can see, I'm not a structured learner. But there's so much to learn. Your Dream 65 video was fantastic and got me to finally explore the Dream. Last night, using the Two Rock extra cab, a Silver Sky, and help from RUclips, I got something very close to the Jerry tone. Yet there are still compressor understanding issues. Both exhilarating and frustrating. Then I say Don't Worry, Don't Expect Too Fast 🙂
Thank you! If you don't understand it then you need more foundation before songs! Easy to fill in. Please join my Guitar Wisdom. Check Music Theory & Foundation section then you will understand things.
@@TomoFujitaMusic Still learning. Even with a great teacher. My favorite story about that is Pablo Casals, who still practiced his cello in his 90s. Asked why, he said he thought he was getting better. I find the difference between Garcia and John interesting. Jerry said right away he understood what he was doing. John, in one interview on RUclips, underplayed his knowledge of theory. He more or less said that he didn't have a lot of what cognitive scientists call declarative knowledge - he couldn't always name things like modes - but he felt like they were in his fingers. Procedural knowledge. Yet John is now playing the same music. I was struck by your own story about your teacher in Japan, who could play jazz, but didn't "know" how or why it worked. And your own experience, which led you to believe that focusing on jazz is the road to understanding. Hearing that, I looked up extensions, my next project. But more for Hendrix, than to play jazz itself. Garcia was asked about his favorite musicians. He mentioned Django and Charlie Christian. I love jazz history and I learned two things. Jerry couldn't figure out how Django played some of his stuff, thinking it was impossible. Then he realized that Django could probably cross his fingers on his injured left hand in ways others can't. He also said that Christian was the first guitar player to play the guitar like a horn. Like Loius Armstrong. Still thinking about that. I wonder if anyone has played Potato Head Blues on guitar with Armstrong's stop-time chorus. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Jerry said that horn players - I played the trumpet myself, but never knew this, because I never improvised - practiced arpeggios, because they can only play one note at a time. And while I learned recently the valves have a pattern, the intervals have to be in your ear or motor memory, not a pattern on the fretboard you can see. Since I read, I never even thought about it.
Tommo, great that you showed this with all the issues at the start, tuning ha ha, guitar also showing tuning issues, exactly what it is like starting to try and play songs that you can actually listen to as the reference point. By the way I was surprised that you decided to use the flying v......Good luck with your idea, I will be there with you because I struggle and want to learn, thanks.
I'm old and this reminds me of life before tapes and CDs and digital anything when no 2 turntables seemed to rotate at the exact same speed. So, we would always have to figure out how to tune the guitar either sharp or flat from concert 440 and then learn the song by ear.
Great video and great concept!! When I saw The Smiths and Tomo, I just couldn’t resist watching this odd pairing:) The Smiths are probably my all time favorite band (Pink Floyd and Velvet Underground are probably equally tied). After hearing the concept of this lesson, I thought to myself “Tomo won’t figure this one out, Johnny Marr’s unique style is going to throw him off… yet, I should know better than to ever question the true guitar and music theory master! Well done sir!!
I absolutely love this song. It might be a bit tricky but there are a lot of things you can learn. It's a very nice song for practicing technique, but also in terms of composition is very interesting. Another one I really like is "Riverman" from Nick Drake.
Tomosan this was absolutely fantastic! Totemo Subarashii! I have been practicing this song for the past week - finally have it under my fingers and now working on getting it up to speed. This masterclass from you was so helpful for me to really get farther underneath the song. Domo domo domo! Tip: Rumor has it that he actually recorded this in F# (on one of the many layered guitars anyway) so that might be why some of the open string sounds are a bit surprising. Also when he now plays this live I've seen him use a capo on the 2nd fret and play in standard tuning. And I have to say once you started improvising your own solo around the 21 min mark - absolutely magic!
10.53. "That's a very unique sound". Points finger. Yes indeed - Johnny Marr strikes again! He opened me up to triads and with a bit of musical theory this blew my mind. Both the simplicity of (the basics!) and the beautiful discordant and harmonic mess you can make by just sliding your hands and shapes with only an approximate idea of what you're doing...
Excellent video exploring and analysing the guitar work of a 19 year old Johnny Marr. Would love you to do the same for Girl Afraid from the same era of Marr's writing
You probably know this now but the trick with the Smiths songs is there is quite often a capo being used. Here I think it is on the 2nd fret...you get the right open string sounds.
Johnny marr is a guitar legend
YES! Thank you!
@@TomoFujitaMusicthanks for checking the band out! I’m a big fan of you and the smiths. Cool to see you listen to them :)
Smiths' guitar tracks are like another song inside the song. Absolutely fantastic.
So good!
Spot on!
@@TomoFujitaMusicglad you like, Tomo!!!
AGREED
I remember giving up trying to learn this by ear back as a teenager. Someone eventually showed me it but Johnny Marr's playing was always like nobody else's back in '84. He always came up with really unique and interesting parts.
Without a little experiences learning by ear... it's a little hard to know this song. But think about it. They wrote this song so there are a few songs that influence these musicians. Always go back a few steps so you can go forward. When you stuck, simple! You need to go back! Yes!
@@TomoFujitaMusic I need to remember this more in life - not just guitar. 🙇🏻
@@Auxend music is always the best philosophy.
Marr was inspired by west afican highlife music (ghana), most old tunes in ghana were played a half-step sharper...
@@kaykay9959 not true. There are parallels in style by its accidental. Has said as much in multiple interviews. He played up to better pair with Morrissey voice as well as have his parts stand out better
Johnny Marr is one of the most inventive and melodic guitar players ever❤
Well said! Thank you for sharing!
‘This Charming Man’ is a masterpiece in writing, arranging and guitar playing. One of those songs that by simply learning it makes you a better player. Great video!
Well said! Thank you for sharing! Thank you so much!
Yea I got obsessed with learning this song after watching Marr play it in a short video. Very fun song
@@DaBears08 I made the mistake of learning it note for note then watching Johnny Marr play it completely differently. Are ALL the tabs wrong in the world! 😂
Japanese guitar proffessor, who is also a youtube star, dives into the smiths!!! some of the best time i had on youtube for a while! :-) ty
Thank you so much! So great to hear that,
I love the way you teach, Tomo! You focus on what's important, in a very simple way, nothing is convoluted and unnecessarily hard. And you always remind us to have fun. Fantastic guitar teacher, honored to have this on RUclips and being able to study with you.
Great to hear that! Should be simple so you can use them everyday! Music is fun, guitar is fun! Good hard work is good! Thank you so much!
The fact that you got the core of Marr's guitars on this track right away, assuming that you've never played it before, shows that you are a professional.
Thank you for sharing!
“Let’s listen together” great idea Tomo! Keep them coming.
More to come! Thank you so much!
lol i love this guy, he has such a sweet logical patient demeanor with good humor a rock star hairstyle and killer guitar skills, theres nothing not to like
You're very kind! Thank you so much!
Good morning AWESOME the way you figure this song out. thanks .
Thanks for listening! So happy to hear that! This how I teach any song!
Hi tomo. This was a great song to pick because its iconic among musicians. I think it is important to pick songs as interesting and relevant as this song, and not to do so many popular songs that people lose interest. There are many youtubers making similar videos, but they choose songs that gets lot of clicks and eventually those videos get boring. Youre a very unique teacher and on this special occasion you've picked a great song. My recommendation (since you asked) is to keep your videos feeling special and different than everybody else. So far, great job!
Thank you so much! Thank you for sharing! I used to think I should do something popular because of more views. I am into more education so I would like to pick good songs! I thought this video was just okay but I really surprised with many great comments (more passion about this music) Thank you!
Thanks for going over this song, It's so encouraging to see a guitarist as talented as you have trouble with the rhythm and melody on this great song. This song is a puzzle but once you solve it it's pure bliss.
You're very welcome! We are humans so no perfection! Fun making mistakes and hard time! All good! Thank you!
How talented is this guy. I wish i could speak music like this.
Thank you!
As Noel Gallagar once said, Not Even Jonny Marr knows how he does what he does.
Jonny is a very underrated player.
Thank you for sharing! Awesome!
No, he isn't underrated. He's mentioned in countless guitar books.
lmaol Noel is a funny gentleman
@@spartan.falbion2761areed, no one uses “underrated” correctly. JM is literally a guitar hero and every guitarist worth his salt knows his music. 🤷🏼♂️
@Schaz42 I would say Marr is a guitarists guitarist rather then a mass appeal guitar hero. He's a hero to guitar players, the masses however would underrate how brilliant he is.
You chose the exact song I wanted you to discuss when I first read the title. I love this song. Great video!!
Awesome! Thank you! Glad you liked it. This way we listen it together and figure it out on the spot!
Tuned to F#, +30 cents. This song drove me crazy as a teenager. But it's the singular reason I learned to play guitar. So excited!
So happy to hear that!
I like to work on ear training but when i get to Johnny Marr I reach for the tabs. Can't wait for more from this series.
Learn basic theory & Ear Training so just like this, you can learn any songs without tabs!
Oh Tomo....I could give you a big hug.....I have seen so much progress. Thanks for these lessons and for guitar wisdom. I love how you teach....
My pleasure! So happy to hear that! Thank you so much!
Johnny Marr is a living legend and Tomo you’re awesome, thank you for diving into this one!!!
Yes sir! Thank you so much! My pleasure!
Learning this song has been a dream of mine ever since I started playing guitar about 7 years ago. Just watching you more or less effortlessly get the song on 1st listen is so inspirational to me and just maybe I will try learning this song once again. Great vid Master-Tomo!
Thanks for sharing! So awesome! Thank you so much!
Love Johnny Marr. Smiths arrangements can be so unusual (eg non-diatonics) and dense it’s great to hear an expert ear-training breakdown to demystify it a little. Some songs you might consider if you like:
Cat Power - Say
David Bowie - Fame
Radiohead - There there
Modest mouse - dramamine
The Cure - 10:15 saturday night
Clash - Rudie can’t fail
Thanks Tomo!
SO happy to hear that! Yes, so lovely! Thanks for sharing. I wrote all down.
great suggestions Stephen!!
This is so helpful! Especially to know it takes time, even for you. But once you get the rhythm of the changes and the intervals, it starts to come together. Great lesson - don't start note for note. Figure out the song first, then use that as the map. More of this would be awesome.
Glad it was helpful! So happy to hear that. I made this in early April. I was not sure whether good video or not? Because I just made it without any preparation. But it's so real! Yes, overall key and vibe first!
Tomo realizing the song is detuned was so pure
Thank you!
The other version from Hatful Of Hollow the guitar is tuned ever so slightly sharper than A=440.
Thats the most beautiful guitar ive ever seen...
Thank you so much!
Professor Tomo you are one of my top legends, I am in my early fifties and still very hungry for more and more to learn and especially music and I am very blessed to have such a legend excellent outstanding teacher ..yes it is you. So thank you so much and my best regards from ENGLAND 🙏🏼👍👍
Thank you so much! Great fun way to learn!
Had to watch due to ‘tough’ song selection; Mr Marr always presents a challenge. Well done. Bass is fun to play and epic feels completely different to guitar bit..RIP Andy Rourke
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for demonstrating how you dissect a song to figure it out. I think that this would have been very difficult for me to tab. One of the more enlightening RUclips guitar videos I've watched.
You're very welcome! So refreshing to hear a great original music because I have to listen it very carefully while i am enjoying. This type video is very easy because this is exactly what I do. Learn a song that inspired my student & I will figure out what to fill in between.... Thank you so much!
Love this Tomo... such a pro and it really shows it here: working his way through one of the best ever guitarists work. Thanks for everything Tomo!
My pleasure! So happy to hear that! Thank you!
Would love to see Johnny Marr watching this. Great stuff Tomo ❤️
That would be so amazing!
They all were top level on their own thing, guitar, bass, drums and vocals
Awesome!
Tricky one to figure out on the fly! LOVE this song. Fun video - thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it! Basically I just pressed "ON" and did it!
Ha! They've given you a tough one. It's just a Smiths tune, it's just a 1 4 5, but it's Johnny Marr. I remember a student bringing this to me and had to teach it on the spot. I also remember thinking that a Hodsworth piece would be easier! I'll never underestimate a Smith again.
Nice one!
Thank you for sharing! Great song!
Oh shit I wasn't ever expecting listen to my favorite band with tomo fujita that's awesome
I am so happy to hear that!
@TomoFujitaMusic thank you for what you do and how you teach sir love this channel and the looks you give us into your guitar knowledge
Saw Johnny Marr live about 2 years ago. Not only is he laying down all these intricate guitar lines, he's singing as well.
Monster musicians behind him as well.
Thank you for sharing! So awesome!
One of my favorite bands of all time! Thanks tomo
Yes! So happy to hear that! Thank you!
Ahhh, Tomo, what a fantastic session! So helpful to hear you talk through the structure and your approach, I really appreciate it. It's hard not to get distracted by that amazing bass: wow.
Thank you so much for this video lesson.
You're very welcome! Thank you!
As someone new to guitar, but old in years, these theory analyses are wonderfully helpful. Thank you, Tomo, for sharing your wisdom and your enthusiasm!
You're very welcome! Thank you so much!
From The Smiths to Charlie Christian. One of the reasons I love this channel. Who knew?
Tomo mentioned in a comment that he taught John Mayer Rose Room - a song recorded by Charlie Christian with the Benny Goodman Sextet in 1939 - as a great introduction to jazz guitar. But not that he has a great video introduction to the song on RUclips, so that we can try it too. Searching RUclips it was the second video after Charlie's own version. Thanks so much, Tomo.
All connected! Chord Tone! Triads! Rose Room solo really cleaned up John Mayer's picking technique.
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Love The Smiths! Such great guitar hooks! Great new video type! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
You bet! Thank you so much!
Tomo Many thanks for laying this stuff out in a way we can all benefit. Your ear is spot on. And so quick. I look forward to learning with you. Very inspirational my friend.
You're very welcome! So happy to hear that! It's all about Ear Training & basic theory knowledge with intervals (degrees/Colors) Thank you so much!
Thank You Maestro
You're very welcome!
Thanks for this listen/lesson. I know this song is more simple than it sounds but the speed always throws me. It's so funny when you go "oh!" Like it's all figured out. Wish I could get more of those moments. Respect to Tomo and Johnny Marr!
You're very welcome! You can always find the source of this music! Without parents... no new born! Thank you so much!
This is great!! Please do more of these.
Thank you so much!
Welcome to the world of Johnny Marr unique is the exact right word. Another great song to explore is London. I saw these guys play in 1985 they were amazing live
Thank you for sharing!
Great song choice Cassidy
Yes! Big thanks to my student Cassidy!
My dad was an experienced guitarist ,when I started playing he gave me lessons ,then I played him some Smiths and he didnt have clue what was going on , the keys ,timing ,everything. So I went back to Hendrix
Thank you for sharing!
So many interesting guitar players back then but Marr was a standout. Thanks so much, great job!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Marr is definitely one of my guitar heroes. I really enjoyed this video.
Great! Thank you!
Love this direction for the channel Tomo. Music should be an experience of shared joy, learning and discovery. Look forward to more videos 👍
So happy to hear that. This is like ... just like any private lessons! Listen together and figure it out! Thank you so much!
Starting out with Johnny Marr on the new listen series videos, awesome Mr.Tomo. I think Mr. Marr is fond of using the Capo at the 2 fret.
Thank you! Originally I was not going to post this video. I thought my teaching was okay. I just made it without any preparation. Thank you for sharing!
@@TomoFujitaMusic so glad you did post the video, love your style of teaching and your positiveness 👍
Love this. I know I need to start transcribing and how important it is. Seeing how you work these songs out is very helpful.
So great to hear that! Yes. Fun too!
Tomo! This is one of my favorite bands! Thank you for this!
My pleasure! Thank you!
I'm a huge Johnny Marr fan (and a Tomo fan! - ever since I saw you at the White Eagle in Worcester with Wilbur & The Dukes a billion years ago!), but what I love most about this song is Andy's bassline. It just keeps that bounce going throughout and makes it so much fun.
Thanks for sharing! Great to hear that!
Big respect to starting out with a Smiths song. Johnny Marr is a genius, a style like no other. And what a bass line, running all over the place.
Thank you for sharing! So amazing!
The bassist is also phenomenal, R.I.P. Andy Rourke 🕊️💐
During the hurricane of hair metal guitarists (a lot of whom were great, btw) in the 1980s, Johnny’s lyrical playing really stood out. He’s a little underexposed in guitar circles, so it was cool to hear you analyse this classic Smiths’ song. Cheers.
Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for the video.
Your method here is how I learned to play by ear back in the 80's. Pickers get faster and faster at seeing patterns. Eventually, that picker can just play along with almost everybody.
You just encountered something that used to occur A LOT back in the days of cassettes.
The recording labels would change the speed of most songs slightly so they would fit on the cassette albums. It was annoying when I had to learn several new songs quickly.
Guitar rule #1: get in tune with your playmates whether that is a recording or live musicians.
The benefit if this is that I got good at tuning by ear.
You're very welcome! I used to use my 4 tracks with tape speed for song like this. Thanks for sharing.
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It's fun to reminisce about the things that helped make us well rounded musicians.
I often wonder what skill level I would have reached if all those small challenges had not been placed before me. I believe that they made me a better musician.
Johnny Marr is just brilliant. Trying to figure out the chord structure is one thing, but trying to get close to his exact riff on the fly is pretty much impossible. Good fun watching !! The riff is full of double stop 3rds. Released in 1983. He wrote it when he was 18 or 19.. Amazing stuff...
Thank you for sharing! So awesome!
I love this new series
So happy to hear that! Thank you so much!
The diatonic stuff and upper structure triad stuff was very interesting! When I went to check out play throughs, some interesting notes: 1) Capo 2 (!), but still flat. This is what makes the open string stuff possible. 2) Lots of slides into arpeggios of the triads. Very nice voicing to make room for the bass and the baritone/baritenor singer.
Also thank you for the videos, I love this English 80s music as much as I love the other jazz, blues, funk videos.
You're very welcome! Thank you for sharing! Awesome!
Really, really loved this!. Thank you!.
Glad you enjoyed it! So happy to hear that!
It's cool watching you try to figure this out! I don't know anything about music so it didn't really occur to me that it might be difficult to figure out how to play something just from listening to it. It makes sense though! Really cool.
Thank you so much! Learn simple music first!
Great video and song , loved the theory breakdown . A great help.
Yes! Thank you!
This was awesome Tomo thanks! The soloing over the chorus was really cool....
Glad you liked it!! Thank you!
The best band of all time
So awesome!
Thank You🤘
You're welcome!
I love this, really good idea, Thanks!
Thank you!
So fun. Love your energy❤
Great to hear that! Thank you!
we need more the smiths!!!
Thank you!
Thank you Mr.Fujita.
Good ear training lesson.
You're welcome! Yes. Ear training & learning a song!
15:45(killed it) -15:59 you know you just killed it
again at 18:09
Keep up these great vids :))
Thanks for the content
Thank you so much! You're very welcome!
Oh my, we all will love this series Tomo San. And a family affair with your daughter included….how lovely to work with your kid and guitars, you are a lucky man! I heard Bowies Sound & Vision fall out of those A triads around 11 min too….I know what I’m going to be practicing tonight here in London. Thank you! 😊
Thank you so much! I am so fortunate!
Can’t wait to watch this!!
Thank you!
@@TomoFujitaMusic always great to see you process something, Tomo-san! Especially Johnny Marr! I love the idea for a series too. Can’t wait to see what’s next.
Thank you so much!
Brilliant lesson in songwriting structures Tommy. And in recognising that when you try to play along to recordings & you don’t sound quite right, it often is that slight tuning difference. Keep these types of lessons coming mate. Take care
My pleasure! Thank you so much!
I really like that chord progression. Sounds great and you did an awesome job working it out. Very nice.
So happy to hear that! Thank you so much!
Thank you for another great lesson Tomo! Appreciate it!
Glad you liked it! You're very welcome!
I've watched a minute and a half and already know this is a great idea. So glad you decided to do it.
As an old guy who dove in the deep end and is learning in the Age of RUclips, I've noticed two kinds of information. The first is knowledge, that needs to be worked on, memorized, translated into your fingers. For me, your Triad videos opened my eyes to that kind of knowledge. The second kind for me is delivering a kind of insight or riff, or trick even, that helps me integrate and extend what I've already "learned." Those bingo moments indicate I'm making progress.
Watching an interview with Jerry Garcia, he was asked whether he knew what he was doing in his playing. I interpreted this as asking whether he knew the theory. He said yes, because he wanted to understand why things work. In that sense, I'm like Jerry, but my learning style isn't focused. Hence my reliance on needing the second kinds of information.
Two examples. I watched your appearance on another channel where you played Little Wing up an down the fretboard. I decided to try that with a song, Sugaree, I've been working on. The payoff has been amazing. Another channel looked at several versions of Sugaree. An approach I'd love to see on your channel. Garcia was doing tremolo picking and playing triads on multiple string sets. I'd never heard of the first, and hadn't understood the importance of the second, even though I learned the basic from your emphasis on triads. Finally, Garcia's style seems to have changed, from blues, to chord tone soloing, to interval hunting. When I heard that I thought, Tomo!!! I don't completely understand it, and can't do it, but I'm getting closer. Looking forward to more of this kind of content. Thanks.
Thank you so much! Did you watch my Sugaree lesson? I never copied any Jerry Garcia 's solo... but there are many times people asked same "Your solo reminds me Jerry Garcia" I play major scale, triads & pentatonic so it's so similar. Mixing ideas over the chord progressions. Yes, it's so important to know basic music theory & chords. TRIADS!
I teach more details at my Guitar Wisdom.
@@TomoFujitaMusic I did watch your Sugaree video, and I will go back to it. At the time, I didn't really understand it. I just didn't know enough then. Interestingly, in this video I understood your triads up the neck because that's what I've been working on in Sugaree. And your comment on hearing open strings is something I've been thinking about. When should you mute an open string at the 12th Fret, say, if it's part of the triad.
What makes your analysis of Sugaree especially interesting to me is that both Garcia and John Mayer play it and both have evolved in the way they play it. John said in a video that when he was learning the Dead songs, he'd be practicing, going down one line of thought, and get completely lost. I'd be interested on your take on why even he got lost. Be a great video. And whether you've noticed anything like that in your students. Garcia said that when he got stale, he'd buy a book and work through it. It feels to me that even seeing one small detail can make big changes. I think that has to be why interval hunting is so important.
For example. In Sugaree, F# is the V in B Mixolydian, but it's minor. The only other minor is C#, the ii. There are two chromatic runs. From E to F#, the run is E, F, F#, which means you can start on the Root of the D-shaped E chord on the second string and change to the minor shape on reaching the F#. This seems to be something important. Why is F# minor and what is the relationship between the whole step change from major to minor in B Mixolydian? Essentially I'm trying to reverse engineer it, because it sounds really nice, even though Garcia plays it on a different string set.
As you can see, I'm not a structured learner. But there's so much to learn. Your Dream 65 video was fantastic and got me to finally explore the Dream. Last night, using the Two Rock extra cab, a Silver Sky, and help from RUclips, I got something very close to the Jerry tone. Yet there are still compressor understanding issues. Both exhilarating and frustrating. Then I say Don't Worry, Don't Expect Too Fast 🙂
Thank you! If you don't understand it then you need more foundation before songs! Easy to fill in. Please join my Guitar Wisdom. Check Music Theory & Foundation section then you will understand things.
John often asks me more about the triads!
@@TomoFujitaMusic Still learning. Even with a great teacher. My favorite story about that is Pablo Casals, who still practiced his cello in his 90s. Asked why, he said he thought he was getting better.
I find the difference between Garcia and John interesting. Jerry said right away he understood what he was doing. John, in one interview on RUclips, underplayed his knowledge of theory. He more or less said that he didn't have a lot of what cognitive scientists call declarative knowledge - he couldn't always name things like modes - but he felt like they were in his fingers. Procedural knowledge. Yet John is now playing the same music.
I was struck by your own story about your teacher in Japan, who could play jazz, but didn't "know" how or why it worked. And your own experience, which led you to believe that focusing on jazz is the road to understanding. Hearing that, I looked up extensions, my next project. But more for Hendrix, than to play jazz itself.
Garcia was asked about his favorite musicians. He mentioned Django and Charlie Christian. I love jazz history and I learned two things. Jerry couldn't figure out how Django played some of his stuff, thinking it was impossible. Then he realized that Django could probably cross his fingers on his injured left hand in ways others can't. He also said that Christian was the first guitar player to play the guitar like a horn. Like Loius Armstrong. Still thinking about that. I wonder if anyone has played Potato Head Blues on guitar with Armstrong's stop-time chorus. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Jerry said that horn players - I played the trumpet myself, but never knew this, because I never improvised - practiced arpeggios, because they can only play one note at a time. And while I learned recently the valves have a pattern, the intervals have to be in your ear or motor memory, not a pattern on the fretboard you can see. Since I read, I never even thought about it.
Thanks Tomo. Johnny Marr is one of my favorite guitarists.
You're very welcome! So happy to hear that!
Tommo, great that you showed this with all the issues at the start, tuning ha ha, guitar also showing tuning issues, exactly what it is like starting to try and play songs that you can actually listen to as the reference point. By the way I was surprised that you decided to use the flying v......Good luck with your idea, I will be there with you because I struggle and want to learn, thanks.
I just jump in! So whatever takes... Fun learning songs in general. I thought it's funny that nothing to do with this song!
I'm old and this reminds me of life before tapes and CDs and digital anything when no 2 turntables seemed to rotate at the exact same speed. So, we would always have to figure out how to tune the guitar either sharp or flat from concert 440 and then learn the song by ear.
Thank you for sharing!
Great video and great concept!!
When I saw The Smiths and Tomo, I just couldn’t resist watching this odd pairing:)
The Smiths are probably my all time favorite band (Pink Floyd and Velvet Underground are probably equally tied).
After hearing the concept of this lesson, I thought to myself “Tomo won’t figure this one out, Johnny Marr’s unique style is going to throw him off… yet, I should know better than to ever question the true guitar and music theory master!
Well done sir!!
Thanks so much! Detuned tuning was a little hard to hear everything. It's all about harmony & melody. Triads!
I absolutely love this song. It might be a bit tricky but there are a lot of things you can learn. It's a very nice song for practicing technique, but also in terms of composition is very interesting. Another one I really like is "Riverman" from Nick Drake.
So happy to hear that! Yes! Great composition! Thanks for sharing!
yeess more of this!!
Thank you so much!
@@TomoFujitaMusic noo thank you!!
Good idea!
Thanks!
This is a great idea Tomo! A very useful concept to learn. I would love to watch you do more of this kind of content. Best wishes from Australia!
So Great to hear that. Actually this is the most easiest way to make my RUclips video! Just a long & I listen then talk! Thank you so much!
@11:30 I'm hearing Bowie's Sound and Vision
Thank you for sharing!
Mad respect to you!
Thanks so much!
Wonderful! Well done! Thanks !
Thank you so much!
Nice one, looking forward to this series🙌🏻
So happy to hear that! Thank you!
Johnny knew chords , his progressions are very creative.
Yes! Lovely chords!
Tomosan this was absolutely fantastic! Totemo Subarashii! I have been practicing this song for the past week - finally have it under my fingers and now working on getting it up to speed. This masterclass from you was so helpful for me to really get farther underneath the song. Domo domo domo!
Tip: Rumor has it that he actually recorded this in F# (on one of the many layered guitars anyway) so that might be why some of the open string sounds are a bit surprising. Also when he now plays this live I've seen him use a capo on the 2nd fret and play in standard tuning.
And I have to say once you started improvising your own solo around the 21 min mark - absolutely magic!
Thank you so much! glad you enjoyed it! Very unique!
10.53. "That's a very unique sound". Points finger. Yes indeed - Johnny Marr strikes again! He opened me up to triads and with a bit of musical theory this blew my mind. Both the simplicity of (the basics!) and the beautiful discordant and harmonic mess you can make by just sliding your hands and shapes with only an approximate idea of what you're doing...
Thank you for sharing. Triads are so powerful!
Excellent video exploring and analysing the guitar work of a 19 year old Johnny Marr. Would love you to do the same for Girl Afraid from the same era of Marr's writing
Thank you for sharing! Thank you so much!
great video tomo would be a great series!!
Thank you! That's so possible! Actually I made one more video with Tom Misch song.
I appreciate the V for this key of A Major lesson.😊
Fun! Thank you!
Fun AND educational, especially when you call out rhe Chords number in scale
Thank you so much!
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(Bob Weir ~ ACE album)
Thank you for sharing!
Love the V!
Thank you!
You probably know this now but the trick with the Smiths songs is there is quite often a capo being used. Here I think it is on the 2nd fret...you get the right open string sounds.
Thank you for sharing! Sometimes not knowing that... can crate something new! I love both approaches. Use right approach & use other approach.