Honestly anyone who is considering buying oes should wait untill gaijin update the armor on challenger tanks since developers mentioned that they will tweak it in the future
Gaijin isn't going to do anything, that sounds like hopium. All they said is they will take a look. We'll probably just get a post saying what they look at and why they don't use certain sources, but not change anything about the tanks.
I wish Gaijin fix challenger 2/modern tank mobility by giving them regenerative steering. The Chally TES/OES is the worst affected by the lack of it because of their fat armor and stupidly weak engine.
@@TJ042 The way tanks drive in BF2042 is realistic because of regenerative braking. Tanks in WT use clutch braking which is very old way to steer tanks and cause tanks to lose a shit ton of speed when steering. WT hasnt added this because Russian tanks don’t have it and Nato tanks would be zooming around the map.
Bought it, and i love it. As a russian main, being slower while moving forward is ok if you consider that you can move way faster while on reverse. Great turret armour, spall liners, lots of empty space, this beast is hella survivable.
@@michaelthebarbarian3380 Idk... it's said the British army is neglected with only 150 Challengers active... So if you divide it by 20 it's like 7...get it?
@@interpl6089 sorry... Apparently my sarcasm didn't come out very well with the deep "LOL" in my post. I agree with you 100%. To have a glorious tank like the Challenger 2 and only have a few dozen is hard for sure. Not as sad as the state of the Royal Navy though... A shadow of it's former self.
@@michaelthebarbarian3380 Are the "aircraft carriers" even active? I heard they keep breaking down due to lack of maintenance...sad. NATO has become really sad, no wonder Russia cut off ties and got loose...
because of the spall liners and the fact that it's a wideboy, I've been primarily using the Chally as a pot-shot flanker, usually making my way to the side edges of the map and shooting the enemies from the side before retreating back to cover, even if you get shot center mass on the side, at most you're going to lose only one crew member (usually the loader) instead of dying instantly like you would in an M1 Abrams.
the challenger 2 oes is absolutely amazing. its got legendary survivability now, and its often available for $25, compared to $70 or $35 if incredibly lucky for other top tier premiums.
@@Grlexcan if you want to grind britain and got experience then hell yeah 5 sec reload and amazing survivability make this vehicle good, speed limits you from overextending and dying. But it only if you have some toptier experience, if not then you will suffer and eventually learn but man oh man you will learn the hard way.
@@Grlexcan yes. im new-ish to top tier. if youre gonna buy it, but it now. its only $25. its hard to bum rush and die. its got decent rounds. amazing survivability. amazing reload.
Agreed as an avid chally player myself, the reload speed is a bonus, but considering that it’s main focus is primarily towards sniping and is relatively survivable, it’s no where near as protected as say a Leo 2 or even an abrams and even in its LEP, form the things so massive, you might as well put a neon sign above your head saying I’m over here. Again whilst the LEP is decent, it’s lack in overall mobility is just a nightmare, again once you can find a decent binding spot then it’s actually pretty decent, although the second alternative is to play ironically, super aggressively, closing in with the target and catch them off guard, but apart from that, when it comes to slugging matches it’s not really that suitable at doing that,
The comments and video seem divided but im going to get it simply because its a challenger 2 and tbh a lot of the meta goes out the window to gaijins random bullshit in matches. I want a vehicle I like to play with friends and tbh that should be a factor over meta sometimes
Just bought it today and wanted to see another standpoint on it and yea I agree for the most part it’s slow and has a decent armament with moderate armor against APFSDS but overall I’ve been finding it very survivable especially to turret shots as it does get a turret spaul liner and has been very enjoyable to play so far to me just need to get its crew up some more because well slow repair
I got it after a 4 month break, im somehow posative with it despite that gap. I love the hell out of it, and it can kill T-90Ms ifyou play it less ballsy as it should be played.
Oh yea if ya don’t mind a more slow methodical or long range playstyle it’s great or do what I’ve been doing and just brawl with it because everyone expects fast tanks to brawl not the 75 ton Challenger rolling around a corner
It really depends on what you are looking for. 10.0/10.3 lineup has no LT and 9.3 lineup only has 1 mbt. Go for DS if you like MBT and go for rooikat if you like LT. Both are good vehicle, though 9.3 lineup are lacking imo unless you also get the khalid, 10.0 lineup are better but you are much better off running the DS as a backup at 10.3 once you reach there, as it is the best 10.3 lineup in the game.
@@neneseal5182 I got the rooikat in the end. I've heard it's good in an uptier as well so have paired it with the only 10.0 vehicle i have, tech tree challenger 2. What br would you say is the max for the rooikat as I plan to grind out all the 10s with it and maybe 11-11.3?
I bought this tank today and all I can really say about this tank is that it’s the definition of “the proof is in the pudding” I tank shots every now and again provided I show my front towards the enemy like a claymore on steroids. It also really fits my playstyle of using “heavy tanks” as it’s weight combined with its firepower allow me either dig in and lock down an area or set up and snipe opponents from across the map. Combine all this with the laser range finder and you got yourself a “modern heavy” beast of a tank if used properly. I will say it’s not for everyone but you fancy being able to roleplay as a rolling brick wall or even buying some camouflage and using the netting and environment to your advantage you’ll be colonizing nations in no time. (P.S on urban or hilly maps positioning is key to not only staying hidden but if under the right circumstances you may just be untouchable.)
@@bread3161 Only if you find the playstyle of being able to actually take one or two hits before getting destroyed with the downside of crappy mobility enjoyable. Like I said if hiding and shooting from afar or driving up behind your team and sitting at a cap zone for the majority of your match is enjoyable to you go for it. It being a premium tank you get a RP boost, so capping zones and “locking them down” is a viable way to grind in my eyes.
The issue is that the mantlet is 1/3 of the turret face. It’s a massive weak spot. On other tanks, it’s at least much smaller and less obvious. And since it’s all everyone hears about the chally, people go “ooh, me shoot breech weak spot” and you just constantly get shot there. Had a game where 3 guys across the map consecutively shot me in the same spot lmao.
I think challenger DS is at a sweet spot now, it's 10.0 so technically it cant face with new 11.3 premium hordes, while the other MBTS (Leo 2a4 and m1 kvt) will be sucked up to 11.3 battles. So some of the better competitors are off for DS now.
I mean gaijin can’t exactly get the statistics for the actual armour of the tank due to them being incredibly classified so they’re working with what they’ve got I think
Let me say this now the smoke round is so god dam poweful your fire one and it covers like 100m in a huge cloud of smoke so you get into good flanks if you want to play agressive just by smoking enemy locations so they cant see you going YOLO i got a nuke with it in a uptier by doing a yolo charge using smoke rounds
I love this tank. It's definitely not a brawller. Use it as a sniper and behind a tree line. It can tank many shots but the sides are the worse ive seen so keep them away from enemies.
Well... Challengers has one huge thing going for them in Warthunder... they look like a godamn tanks. But anyone in their right mind would go for the premium Mk.3 rather than this... It's a complete no brain almost, because with Mk.3 you'll get extra GE plus premium time on much lower and better BR and overall it's just a better tank. I feel sorry for those who are going to fall for OES in hopes for better tomorrows. There is just no value for the money you are going to put in it... Even for just strengthening your 11.3 line up... you have already 3 tanks, 6 with back ups, plus two Challenger 1s and maybe Vickers Mk. 7. There is literally no point of getting it other than it has the .50 cal... which could be considered as a feature to reason over... O_o
Is this out of date? When I run the protection sims v all tanks in its BR of 11.3 or below it tanks in most places and it’s round when it pens goes all the way through enemy tanks with a splinter effect I fail to see bar mobility how it’s weak at all based on protection analysis?
Do not buy this tank. It has all this extra armor that does nothing. All that thick add on armor on the sides and front does 30mm of kinetic protection. Despite in real life it is supposed to stop 30mm apfsds rounds. Bug with sources been reported multiple times they don't care.
That ERA was designed to stop 30mm APFSDS when angled at 30 degrees, which is what it does in game… Keep in mind most ERA in real life designed to defend against kinetic projectiles is almost useless when shot at head on, it has to be at an angle.
I dont understand what you mean by hull armor is bad I usualy bounce 3-10 shots at close quarters due to Angling my hull when turning corners in the TES it's slow but if you know what you are doing it works at close up Engagements
I rather enjoy the chally 2s and i live by i saying the faster u are the faster you die but the slower you are the long you live. The chally 2s are so slow i find that i get roughly 5 to 8 kills a match and not die near as much as if i play the leo 2a6 because it's much faster
in realistic this tank is pretty average or mediocre at best mainly due to the fact gaijin cannot model Chobham armor due to the fact even first gen Chobham to my knowledge is still heavily classified. HOWEVER if you take her into Sim ho-boy she is an absolute unit especially since in sim you get more longer range maps compared to even normal top tier realistic which is where you get most of the long range maps. She's not the best tank in top tier sim but she's really up there very competitive i'd say.
The Shit-Bait has a chair it can lend you. Just ask one next time you see one. If they're playing the M1Gay1 Shitbrams right they'll be using YOU as armor anyway so they should be close.
Plus you’re also forgetting it’s 9,000 golden eagle price tag being about sixty British pounds or seventy dollars for a below average tank I guess🤷♂️, again as a Brit and a chally lover unfortunately in this situation it’s best to look elsewhere
I play mostly pve - ground assault and i am considering buying it because despite all i kinda like it. My only question is, does it get it's gun breach destroyed easily like a russian mbt or is basicly indestructible like a merkava gun? I have the T-80 and that thing is really bad in pve ground assault because it literally has a glass cannon and i spend 90% of the time repairing the gun
Strange but in my experience I tend to survivwe a buanch of shots in this thing. I cant explain why but its not uncommon to shrug off 2-4 shots that absolutely should have penned without much issues.
This tank isn't meta at the moment. It's slow and heavy, but I love Chally more than I love TURMS. I have both. Great gun depression, fast reload, great turret armor, if you find a spot where you can go hull down and just shoot without being easily found, you will notice it's a great tank, it also has very good accuracy. It's a tank which needs you to explore the maps in order to find the perfect spot for it. Too bad it's classified as a MBT which means it should be great at everything and, because of it, people are using it wrong. I am sure that Chally in real life it's good, but in the game, with all the minuses it has because of the snail, it gets frustrating playing it sometimes.
@@bread3161 it depends on how used to play at 11.3 you are and shooting leo 2s and t-90s. Fron 11.3 it gets anoying to play sometimes, facing more helicopters and planes than tanks. Keep in mind the tank is slow, so if it gets shot, you are better off leaving the match than running away because the enemy will catch up to you. If you REALLY want to grind the British tech tree and have some spare golden eagles, go for it. But I’d rather wait for a sale
@@ricolives1166you might get one every 20 games, but that is not the case across the board. It is mathematically impossible that everybody experiences more uptiers than downtiers. There are BRs that get way more downtiers than uptiers. It also seems fairly nation dependent. I think my US 7.0 lineup is the most consistently downtiered one I have, usually to 6.7. Id suggest playing 9.7, 7.0, and 6.3 for downtiers because 10.7, 8.0, and 7.3 really don't have many lineups anymore so I think downtiers are more common (or at least not full uptiers)
Heaviest tank.. no armour.. apparently the snail thinks that weight is purely boiling vessal and biscuits.. you are going to have the armour of the abrams or challenger II because 1. It is classified 2. It would break the game.
As a bitish main i really fell bad for all of those poor bastards who buys this tank this is just premium TES the most broken high tier tank in game, big, slow, unagile sniper with gun breech repair symulator, god why gaijin hate this tank so much
Your review has very little to do with the real vehicle. For example the real vehicle has excellent cross terrain mobility due to its advanced suspension. Your review makes this out to be an average tank, but back in the real world it has been battle proven and is widely considered one of the best tanks in the world. From this mismatch we can conclude that WT is just a game....
Its better than the Shitbait. Atleast this tank is GOOD at something (hull down sniping). The Abrams cant fucking do anything besides have a decent to good (A2) gun.
You are spewing bullshit dude. Name a tank that can’t do hull down sniping at top tier. You can’t, because all of them can, most better than the Chally 2s. The challengers are by far the weakest MBTs in game, Gaijin hates Britain and the only reason Britain has decent-ish stats around top tier is because British players are far more skilled than any big 3 mains.
would get it just because britain is a nice nation, but I hate the smoke launcher placement so much, like its so fucking ugly to just have it welded on the front like that
the problem with nato tanks (especially chally) is that it lacks engine power but also lacks any armour to even make up for it, meanwhile t80 get the most insane armour and faster then the chally
Why did gaijin have to pick the worst chally 2 this thing is so slow. You should have the option to take off the Dorchester package. Fuck the worthless era put some composite screens on the front turret.
What are you waffling about mate. Challenger 2s are insane irl considering how old they are. They just spearheaded Ukraines first real offensive success in 2 years into Russia. They have only lost one and that’s export version not the Dorchester this is supposed to have. If this was realistic this tank would be able to sit anywhere not coming out above someone and tank rounds for days
@@aguy607 i highly doubt the Challenger had anything to do with the initial success of the ukrainian offensive, they mostly fight border guards & local police. But nevermind that, just the fact that ammo is right in the crew compartment without any protective racks is a fail in itself and one of the reason the first one used in ukraine blew up like a fireckracker way before it could reach the frontline. These things are slow, huge behemoths with a giant heat signature that might have had good armor against HEAT & first gen APFSDS used by the iraqis (if they could hit something) but it sure wont hold against modern rounds the russians have, its been adequate 20 years ago and a little better than a T72B3 is now but for several times the cost & without the low profile. Its crap in game & not much better irl.
A panzer 4 can pen the challenger 2 lower plate im pretty sure. I dont believe so for the russians. Also Russia has a smaller lower glacis while the challenger 2 glacis are larger
Russian tanks have ammo that doesn't go off, and by far the smallest weak spots in the game. Not to mention how unreliable they are. Also Russian tanks often don't produce spalling when you shoot them. Even the ones that don't have "spall liners" modeled.
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after the update the challenger is really fucking survivable now, like i'm tanking shots that i shouldn't the spalliner made a big difference.
I agree, I was shocked that I enjoy it so much
yes now i cant one shot them tea enjoyers
The fact Abrams don’t get spall liner is just ridiculous… typical gaijin hating America as usual.
did all top tier challys get he spall liner or just this one?
@@matts2208most of them got it I’m pretty sure I know the tes and 2e got it I didn’t check the rest
Honestly anyone who is considering buying oes should wait untill gaijin update the armor on challenger tanks since developers mentioned that they will tweak it in the future
Gaijin isn't going to do anything, that sounds like hopium. All they said is they will take a look. We'll probably just get a post saying what they look at and why they don't use certain sources, but not change anything about the tanks.
Honestly anyone who is considering buying oes should uninstall the game because they clearly have a case of snail brain.
@@harryshuman9637I’m gonna buy it because I need to collect them all
Time to upload those silly documents so gajin can get the armor right
@@harryshuman9637bought it cause I have the entire british tree but I want more
Don't forget the "tea time" table sitting on top of the tank giving it away from behind any cover
Its really annoying, like I get tea is great but is it THAT good
I wish Gaijin fix challenger 2/modern tank mobility by giving them regenerative steering. The Chally TES/OES is the worst affected by the lack of it because of their fat armor and stupidly weak engine.
What is regenerative steering? I’ve not heard of it before.
@@TJ042 The way tanks drive in BF2042 is realistic because of regenerative braking. Tanks in WT use clutch braking which is very old way to steer tanks and cause tanks to lose a shit ton of speed when steering. WT hasnt added this because Russian tanks don’t have it and Nato tanks would be zooming around the map.
@@TJ042 ruclips.net/video/IY-2GfhS7n8/видео.htmlsi=cB4UCTaUTyZBElO-
@@TJ042 Basically WoT steering physics, but it exists IRL...
It also has a really good lineup so it won't be useless after you almost reach top-tier
Bought it, and i love it. As a russian main, being slower while moving forward is ok if you consider that you can move way faster while on reverse. Great turret armour, spall liners, lots of empty space, this beast is hella survivable.
Ahh a fellow russian main spitting facts. Thx my guy
Is it worth using for a grinding vehicle?
I was a Japan main then went to Germany and Sweden finally started on uk and I love it
@@bread3161yes
@@bread3161 I get about 6 to 9 kills a match before dying
I couldn't help it... I now have 7 challenger 2s (well, 6 2s and a 3) at top tier in my line up. It's glorious.
good lord...that's nearly half of all active Challenger 2s
this is a joke.
@@interpl6089 is it though?
Lol
@@michaelthebarbarian3380 Idk... it's said the British army is neglected with only 150 Challengers active...
So if you divide it by 20 it's like 7...get it?
@@interpl6089 sorry... Apparently my sarcasm didn't come out very well with the deep "LOL" in my post.
I agree with you 100%. To have a glorious tank like the Challenger 2 and only have a few dozen is hard for sure. Not as sad as the state of the Royal Navy though...
A shadow of it's former self.
@@michaelthebarbarian3380 Are the "aircraft carriers" even active? I heard they keep breaking down due to lack of maintenance...sad. NATO has become really sad, no wonder Russia cut off ties and got loose...
because of the spall liners and the fact that it's a wideboy, I've been primarily using the Chally as a pot-shot flanker, usually making my way to the side edges of the map and shooting the enemies from the side before retreating back to cover, even if you get shot center mass on the side, at most you're going to lose only one crew member (usually the loader) instead of dying instantly like you would in an M1 Abrams.
the challenger 2 oes is absolutely amazing. its got legendary survivability now, and its often available for $25, compared to $70 or $35 if incredibly lucky for other top tier premiums.
would you recommend buying it?
@@Grlexcan if you want to grind britain and got experience then hell yeah 5 sec reload and amazing survivability make this vehicle good, speed limits you from overextending and dying. But it only if you have some toptier experience, if not then you will suffer and eventually learn but man oh man you will learn the hard way.
challengers have the best survivability in the game rn
@radebar11pl44 is it better than buying premium time?
@@Grlexcan yes. im new-ish to top tier. if youre gonna buy it, but it now. its only $25. its hard to bum rush and die. its got decent rounds. amazing survivability. amazing reload.
AND STILL THERES NO CHEIFTAIN MK 11
(WITH THERMALS)
🥶🥶🥶
I NEED IT NOW
Agreed as an avid chally player myself, the reload speed is a bonus, but considering that it’s main focus is primarily towards sniping and is relatively survivable, it’s no where near as protected as say a Leo 2 or even an abrams and even in its LEP, form the things so massive, you might as well put a neon sign above your head saying
I’m over here. Again whilst the LEP is decent, it’s lack in overall mobility is just a nightmare, again once you can find a decent binding spot then it’s actually pretty decent, although the second alternative is to play ironically, super aggressively, closing in with the target and catch them off guard, but apart from that, when it comes to slugging matches it’s not really that suitable at doing that,
we got tea tho
@@TheRealYoda-ob7gd agreed there should be an increased crew bonus for the added tea making facilities as well as a built in bog😂
I bought it pretty cheap during the anniversary sale only around 4810 golden eagles
The comments and video seem divided but im going to get it simply because its a challenger 2 and tbh a lot of the meta goes out the window to gaijins random bullshit in matches. I want a vehicle I like to play with friends and tbh that should be a factor over meta sometimes
Just bought it today and wanted to see another standpoint on it and yea I agree for the most part it’s slow and has a decent armament with moderate armor against APFSDS but overall I’ve been finding it very survivable especially to turret shots as it does get a turret spaul liner and has been very enjoyable to play so far to me just need to get its crew up some more because well slow repair
Would you say it’s fun to play though? Even with all its drawbacks as I’m tempted myself to get it to grind out Britain more etc
@@weeklybear4518if I was you Would get the bishma to grind as it’s literally the best (was) t90 in the game before the t90 M was added
I got it after a 4 month break, im somehow posative with it despite that gap. I love the hell out of it, and it can kill T-90Ms ifyou play it less ballsy as it should be played.
Oh yea if ya don’t mind a more slow methodical or long range playstyle it’s great or do what I’ve been doing and just brawl with it because everyone expects fast tanks to brawl not the 75 ton Challenger rolling around a corner
@@dadrithracrish2177 yeah and half the time they panic and shoot your track or something then you just delete them
I've been waiting for this all day lol. Out of this, the challenger ds or rooikat 105 what would be the best premium?
best both... need to pick one? Well, I'm guessing you have no experience with bri'ish tanks, so Rooikat 105 it is...
DS HAS BETTER ARMOUR BUT ROOIKAT HAS SCOUTING IF YOU CAN AVOID BEING SEEN
👍👍👍
rookiat cant grind rank 8 so i guess DS until this goes on sale
It really depends on what you are looking for. 10.0/10.3 lineup has no LT and 9.3 lineup only has 1 mbt. Go for DS if you like MBT and go for rooikat if you like LT. Both are good vehicle, though 9.3 lineup are lacking imo unless you also get the khalid, 10.0 lineup are better but you are much better off running the DS as a backup at 10.3 once you reach there, as it is the best 10.3 lineup in the game.
@@neneseal5182 I got the rooikat in the end. I've heard it's good in an uptier as well so have paired it with the only 10.0 vehicle i have, tech tree challenger 2. What br would you say is the max for the rooikat as I plan to grind out all the 10s with it and maybe 11-11.3?
I bought this tank today and all I can really say about this tank is that it’s the definition of “the proof is in the pudding” I tank shots every now and again provided I show my front towards the enemy like a claymore on steroids. It also really fits my playstyle of using “heavy tanks” as it’s weight combined with its firepower allow me either dig in and lock down an area or set up and snipe opponents from across the map. Combine all this with the laser range finder and you got yourself a “modern heavy” beast of a tank if used properly.
I will say it’s not for everyone but you fancy being able to roleplay as a rolling brick wall or even buying some camouflage and using the netting and environment to your advantage you’ll be colonizing nations in no time.
(P.S on urban or hilly maps positioning is key to not only staying hidden but if under the right circumstances you may just be untouchable.)
Would you recommend this as a grinder?
@@bread3161 Only if you find the playstyle of being able to actually take one or two hits before getting destroyed with the downside of crappy mobility enjoyable.
Like I said if hiding and shooting from afar or driving up behind your team and sitting at a cap zone for the majority of your match is enjoyable to you go for it. It being a premium tank you get a RP boost, so capping zones and “locking them down” is a viable way to grind in my eyes.
The weak spot around the gun is a moot point, name one MBT that doesn’t have a weak spot there
+ theres times when you can get lucky and bounce a shot there or somehow just absorb one
@@jerbyjerboa so my friend tells me, I’ve never really had that problem
The issue is that the mantlet is 1/3 of the turret face. It’s a massive weak spot. On other tanks, it’s at least much smaller and less obvious. And since it’s all everyone hears about the chally, people go “ooh, me shoot breech weak spot” and you just constantly get shot there. Had a game where 3 guys across the map consecutively shot me in the same spot lmao.
Just bought it in my opinion its worth every penny got it for 33CAD on sale
I just got this out of a crate. I’m excited for it.
I’ve been playing for 8 years and have only gotten 1million credits once out of the crates, you’re extremely lucky
it would be cool if we had the option to remove the extra armor like a modification
Fun fact. The top mounted 50 cal has access to thermals so you can use the hmg as a commanders sight with thermals.
I always thought British had the best looking tanks tbh. I found myself playing them the most even though their air line was neglected by me
I think challenger DS is at a sweet spot now, it's 10.0 so technically it cant face with new 11.3 premium hordes, while the other MBTS (Leo 2a4 and m1 kvt) will be sucked up to 11.3 battles. So some of the better competitors are off for DS now.
I agree
Literally Main Battle Tea
I mean gaijin can’t exactly get the statistics for the actual armour of the tank due to them being incredibly classified so they’re working with what they’ve got I think
Let me say this now the smoke round is so god dam poweful your fire one and it covers like 100m in a huge cloud of smoke so you get into good flanks if you want to play agressive just by smoking enemy locations so they cant see you going YOLO i got a nuke with it in a uptier by doing a yolo charge using smoke rounds
Smoke round is most tactical shit ever. I got british tree just for that
I love this tank. It's definitely not a brawller. Use it as a sniper and behind a tree line. It can tank many shots but the sides are the worse ive seen so keep them away from enemies.
it can be a brawler with great 5s reload and amazing survivability
Thank you!
Well... Challengers has one huge thing going for them in Warthunder... they look like a godamn tanks.
But anyone in their right mind would go for the premium Mk.3 rather than this... It's a complete no brain almost, because with Mk.3 you'll get extra GE plus premium time on much lower and better BR and overall it's just a better tank.
I feel sorry for those who are going to fall for OES in hopes for better tomorrows. There is just no value for the money you are going to put in it...
Even for just strengthening your 11.3 line up... you have already 3 tanks, 6 with back ups, plus two Challenger 1s and maybe Vickers Mk. 7.
There is literally no point of getting it other than it has the .50 cal... which could be considered as a feature to reason over... O_o
I enjoy the OES a lot more than I was expecting to. The armor actually works pretty well
Is this out of date?
When I run the protection sims v all tanks in its BR of 11.3 or below it tanks in most places and it’s round when it pens goes all the way through enemy tanks with a splinter effect I fail to see bar mobility how it’s weak at all based on protection analysis?
Do not buy this tank. It has all this extra armor that does nothing. All that thick add on armor on the sides and front does 30mm of kinetic protection. Despite in real life it is supposed to stop 30mm apfsds rounds. Bug with sources been reported multiple times they don't care.
That ERA was designed to stop 30mm APFSDS when angled at 30 degrees, which is what it does in game…
Keep in mind most ERA in real life designed to defend against kinetic projectiles is almost useless when shot at head on, it has to be at an angle.
I dont understand what you mean by hull armor is bad I usualy bounce 3-10 shots at close quarters due to Angling my hull when turning corners in the TES it's slow but if you know what you are doing it works at close up Engagements
I rather enjoy the chally 2s and i live by i saying the faster u are the faster you die but the slower you are the long you live. The chally 2s are so slow i find that i get roughly 5 to 8 kills a match and not die near as much as if i play the leo 2a6 because it's much faster
Ill probably buy it around the Christmas Sale. I need something to help me Research through the British Tree
The sad part is that it's not going to be on sale this Christmas.
@@kalmannagy1368 Doesn't need to be, if GE is on sale than you get it cheaper
When is the Christmas sale like when does it start
@@pudding5018GE never goes on sale…..
@@pudding5018 GE doesn’t go on sale lol
in realistic this tank is pretty average or mediocre at best mainly due to the fact gaijin cannot model Chobham armor due to the fact even first gen Chobham to my knowledge is still heavily classified. HOWEVER if you take her into Sim ho-boy she is an absolute unit especially since in sim you get more longer range maps compared to even normal top tier realistic which is where you get most of the long range maps. She's not the best tank in top tier sim but she's really up there very competitive i'd say.
Remember guys Britain is war thunder on max difficulty, choose wisely
I just got this in one of the winter crates 😁
I dont like the kitchen table on the roof, maybe if there were chairs to I'd be ok with it.
The Shit-Bait has a chair it can lend you. Just ask one next time you see one. If they're playing the M1Gay1 Shitbrams right they'll be using YOU as armor anyway so they should be close.
gaijin knew what they were doing...
do the m1a1 HC next !❤
Plus you’re also forgetting it’s 9,000 golden eagle price tag being about sixty British pounds or seventy dollars for a below average tank I guess🤷♂️, again as a Brit and a chally lover unfortunately in this situation it’s best to look elsewhere
About 45 USD if you buy GE on the gaijin website. In game 10000 GE is $66, on their site it's $50
Im getting it anyways because I like it, thanks for the info. It will help me understand the weaknesses and strengths of my tank, so I can do well.
should i get the M1A1 Click-Bait for the challenger 2 OES?
challenger i have it its 100% worth it
"Should I get American pack tank for British GE tank?"
@@ronaldthompson4989does that make sense with “for” or using “or”
@@ronaldthompson4989 yuh
I'm thinking of buying it because it just looks like modern day heavy...too bad the armor is gimped tho
good video
I play mostly pve - ground assault and i am considering buying it because despite all i kinda like it. My only question is, does it get it's gun breach destroyed easily like a russian mbt or is basicly indestructible like a merkava gun? I have the T-80 and that thing is really bad in pve ground assault because it literally has a glass cannon and i spend 90% of the time repairing the gun
Strange but in my experience I tend to survivwe a buanch of shots in this thing. I cant explain why but its not uncommon to shrug off 2-4 shots that absolutely should have penned without much issues.
I am all time british tanker and i have no negative to say about it.
Gaijin try not to absolutely butcher the chally 2 challenge
Bought it, like it, a bit of cbt comes included for free. But its fine
I feel like I have less than leopard 1 armour on that thing
No way
Let's see the M1A1 HC 😄
I got the researchable one right before the update, so much better than the M1A1, its turret can actually take a hit.
RIP Challenger armor model
The UK is Spitfire only for me lol
This tank isn't meta at the moment. It's slow and heavy, but I love Chally more than I love TURMS. I have both. Great gun depression, fast reload, great turret armor, if you find a spot where you can go hull down and just shoot without being easily found, you will notice it's a great tank, it also has very good accuracy. It's a tank which needs you to explore the maps in order to find the perfect spot for it. Too bad it's classified as a MBT which means it should be great at everything and, because of it, people are using it wrong. I am sure that Chally in real life it's good, but in the game, with all the minuses it has because of the snail, it gets frustrating playing it sometimes.
Would you recommend it as a grinder?
@@bread3161 it depends on how used to play at 11.3 you are and shooting leo 2s and t-90s. Fron 11.3 it gets anoying to play sometimes, facing more helicopters and planes than tanks. Keep in mind the tank is slow, so if it gets shot, you are better off leaving the match than running away because the enemy will catch up to you. If you REALLY want to grind the British tech tree and have some spare golden eagles, go for it. But I’d rather wait for a sale
its good i got it from a 999 ge crate i like it very much.
75 tons is... oooo mama
When people complain about the challenger being slow it’s funny because it just as fast as all the other tanks on the tree they ain’t that fast either
I WILL be getting the Click Bait. That 11.3 lineup for US is just yelling freedom
@@invictusmaneo4587 for the last 4 years, War Thunder has no down tiers unless you are a cc. Every game is a full uptier
That's blatantly false lol. Every uptier for you is a downtier for someone else
@@tm1182 strongly disagree. You only get a down tier once every 20 or so games
@@ricolives1166you might get one every 20 games, but that is not the case across the board. It is mathematically impossible that everybody experiences more uptiers than downtiers. There are BRs that get way more downtiers than uptiers. It also seems fairly nation dependent. I think my US 7.0 lineup is the most consistently downtiered one I have, usually to 6.7. Id suggest playing 9.7, 7.0, and 6.3 for downtiers because 10.7, 8.0, and 7.3 really don't have many lineups anymore so I think downtiers are more common (or at least not full uptiers)
Maus is heavier than this tank. Maus weighs 188 tons bro .
Heaviest tank.. no armour.. apparently the snail thinks that weight is purely boiling vessal and biscuits.. you are going to have the armour of the abrams or challenger II because 1. It is classified 2. It would break the game.
As a bitish main i really fell bad for all of those poor bastards who buys this tank this is just premium TES the most broken high tier tank in game, big, slow, unagile sniper with gun breech repair symulator, god why gaijin hate this tank so much
so annoying bruh, wallet warriors ruining topt ier now
Lol, you think THAT is what is ruining top tier?
yep and 2s38 spam@@Puerkl8r
Breech armour on all chally 2's is a joke. Gaijin need to change it as its nowhere close to the real life vehicle.
Your review has very little to do with the real vehicle. For example the real vehicle has excellent cross terrain mobility due to its advanced suspension. Your review makes this out to be an average tank, but back in the real world it has been battle proven and is widely considered one of the best tanks in the world. From this mismatch we can conclude that WT is just a game....
I relised it has zimerit on it xd
can u say its heavy 1 more time plz
Oh oh Good gut it s Not the best staticcal 1 bc is slow
i'm enjoying it
Its better than the Shitbait. Atleast this tank is GOOD at something (hull down sniping). The Abrams cant fucking do anything besides have a decent to good (A2) gun.
You are spewing bullshit dude. Name a tank that can’t do hull down sniping at top tier. You can’t, because all of them can, most better than the Chally 2s. The challengers are by far the weakest MBTs in game, Gaijin hates Britain and the only reason Britain has decent-ish stats around top tier is because British players are far more skilled than any big 3 mains.
would get it just because britain is a nice nation, but I hate the smoke launcher placement so much, like its so fucking ugly to just have it welded on the front like that
the problem with nato tanks (especially chally) is that it lacks engine power but also lacks any armour to even make up for it, meanwhile t80 get the most insane armour and faster then the chally
Why did gaijin have to pick the worst chally 2 this thing is so slow. You should have the option to take off the Dorchester package. Fuck the worthless era put some composite screens on the front turret.
U realise irl it is a unit. Dorchester is still one of the best armours in the world.
AS BRITISH MAIN THE WHOLE TOP TIER CAN BE AVOIDED
ITS JUST BRITISH NERF RUSSIAN BIAS UP THERE MAN
🥶🥶🥶
This or M1HC "Clickbait"??
Clickbait's DU turret cheeks hold up against Leopard 2A6 top round, and it comes with proximity rounds and softkill APS, so...
70 dollars for gen 1 thermals
бля так здорово что видео сняли по нему но я ни сова е понимаю... но спасибо всё равно
Your task from gaijin ( i still believe that you ARE part of gaijin ) : push people into buying stuff lol...
Pretty realistic, it sucks ingame just as it sucks irl.
What are you waffling about mate.
Challenger 2s are insane irl considering how old they are.
They just spearheaded Ukraines first real offensive success in 2 years into Russia. They have only lost one and that’s export version not the Dorchester this is supposed to have.
If this was realistic this tank would be able to sit anywhere not coming out above someone and tank rounds for days
@@aguy607 i highly doubt the Challenger had anything to do with the initial success of the ukrainian offensive, they mostly fight border guards & local police. But nevermind that, just the fact that ammo is right in the crew compartment without any protective racks is a fail in itself and one of the reason the first one used in ukraine blew up like a fireckracker way before it could reach the frontline. These things are slow, huge behemoths with a giant heat signature that might have had good armor against HEAT & first gen APFSDS used by the iraqis (if they could hit something) but it sure wont hold against modern rounds the russians have, its been adequate 20 years ago and a little better than a T72B3 is now but for several times the cost & without the low profile. Its crap in game & not much better irl.
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Russian lower from glacis plates are just as weak I don’t know why people complain about British ones exclusively
A panzer 4 can pen the challenger 2 lower plate im pretty sure. I dont believe so for the russians. Also Russia has a smaller lower glacis while the challenger 2 glacis are larger
Oh ok thanks
Russian tanks have ammo that doesn't go off, and by far the smallest weak spots in the game. Not to mention how unreliable they are. Also Russian tanks often don't produce spalling when you shoot them. Even the ones that don't have "spall liners" modeled.
So funny because the ammo goes off so much irl…..turret bobbing challenge in ukraine