2019 Yamaha YZF-R3 vs Kawasaki Ninja 400: Compared & Reviewed
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- The big question everyone's going to be asking in 2019 is how the new 2019 Yamaha YZF-R3 compares to the Kawasaki Ninja 400, which was released in 2018 and featured a pretty significant capacity increase.
Yamaha pushed the line in creating a 321cc and while it took a few years, Kawasaki one-upped them with an even bigger capacity boost when they moved to a 400.
There's an obvious performance benefit as a result for the Ninja 400, which in Australia for instance has seen the Ninja 400 restricted to stock suspension in the Supersport 300 race series, but this is all about how these bikes compare on the road.
It's also worth noting that some markets seem to receive a bike which isn't restricted to 35kW or the power to weight limitations seen in some markets, which further confuses the comparison. Both bikes are tested were LAMS compliant in Australia.
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that blue R3 looks so gooooood!
Pretty hard to beat the traditional Yamaha blue!
N400 engine in R3 chassis & body would be the perfect starter bike.
Maybe Suzuki will surprise everyone and introduce something in between the two!
@@buknoychiifiocchii8058 Hence the "would be"....
@@buknoychiifiocchii8058 Ninja 400, why?
R3 paint is notoriously thin. Smudges with factory cover. It isn't covered in warranty. Good luck with it.
@@awnis001 My new R3 got a nasty scratch on the tank on the second day of owning. I dont really care, though, i'm happy
Everybody stay safe too. Thanks for this review. Important details. I learned alot. Hp is important depends on who drives. Considering traffic and road condition, i’ll take comfort and style. Im getting the r3. Once again thanks
Can't go wrong with the R3, it's an exceptional machine. Have fun!
Great video bro, gonna pick R3 for sure. Kawasaki is great but i like Yamaha more. 😎👍
I've tried my cousin's 2019 r3 as well, and was really surprised by the gear shifting. It's in no way comparable to the ninja 400's. But the best thing though is the Ninja 400's clutch. Man, that clutch will just consume you to shift all the time when driving in and out of the city. I love both these bikes and really, they have their own character. I, for one, love that torque on the ninja 400. You can really feel the bike itself. But the gear shifting on the r3, oh that's just heaven. It's like shifting gears in a car.
I own a ninja 400 as well. But I'm not gonna pick it over the r3 as I pretty like them both in their own way. It just comes down to one's own personal preferences on how they like their bike to be.
Definitely. It's pretty amazing to see two machines that are so different but also both so good in their own way. The clutch on the Ninja 400 really is totally insane with just how light it is!
Thanks for keeping it as unbiased as you could. :) Very informative.
The ninja 400 appears to be a better choice based on torque and the brakes, however, I love the look of the blue Yamaha R3. If I get a Ninja 400, I might try to get the grey and green one which looks really good.
There's a definite advantage there, where the R3 has a bit more of a premium suspension loadout. Loving how the bike looks is important too, especially if you'll have it a few years like most people do here in Australia.
Experienced older rider here. I have a HD FXLR Softail but wanted a 2nd smaller more sporty bike. I sat on both these, but wound up with a RE Cont GT650. Im 5'7'' and 170# and the ergo onto R3 felt better to me. Plus the R3 is better looking IMO. Out of the 2, I would have bought the R3.
Those Royal Enfields are wicked machines, and a bit more relaxed than the R3 as far as the ergos. It does have a nice feel to it (the R3).
you call it beginner bike, we indians consider 150 cc bikes as beginner's one and this one is considered as a champion level bike which very few people can buy. Most of the bikers here doesnt know or bother about 300-400 cc bikes. :3 :3 :3
Yep it certainly varies by region, even in Europe they start on 125cc and move up from there, while in some places 250cc is the limit! Do you think there'll be a move towards bigger bikes with the Royal Enfield 650s available?
@@ranieshajayebahandi7663 that's why we reach mars
Thats y European are better rider
Indians, from India, we Indians from South America dont even have a 50 cc here , It'll be a big step up from my Burro, Yeehaw!!
@@ranieshajayebahandi7663 the way u talk is disgusting.
Note that India is still a developing nation.not a developed one.
I went to peter steven's the other day, found out something interesting the brand new 2019 R3 has a $7199 prize tag, which is only $100 cheaper than the 2019 ninja 400, but it doesn't have a slipper clutch nor a powerful engine, although I'll admit R3 actually rides better(my opinion), but for the same money I'll for sure get the ninja 400. but the interesting part is the 2018 R3 is on clearance sale which only cost you $5990, I mean that is a great value for a brand new beginner bike, if you do the math you'll save right around $1200, think about how many mods you can put onto your bike, better brake pads all kinds of sliders an akrapovic slip on or a helmet upgrade! personally I'll go with the 2018 R3
Definitely! The 2018 R3 is an absolutely amazing deal at the moment, especially considering it's offering the same engine performance as the new one. I was actually surprised there was no slipper clutch riding one, as really aggressively downshifting is super smooth. But the Ninja 400 clutch is incredibly light which is the other benefit of the slipper/assist, not that there's anything wrong with the R3 clutch pull.
Spending that extra on some better gear and mods is also a great idea, I know it's easy to get the bike and then buy a cheap helmet or gear (that's what I did first time out!). But good gear should last a few years, especially the helmet.
YY H I bought a new R3 and it was originally around the $7,200 price range like you said. Although, if you pay it outright and hassle a little you can get it for $5,000 out the door. I know a few other people that have also bought it and didn’t finance and they also paid $5,000.
@@allenlyle8056 For a new 2018 model? There are some amazing deals available on the run-out stock.
Moto Journo Kris my bad I meant 2019 model
@@allenlyle8056 Are you in the US or Australia, that's an amazing price for here in Oz!
I just want to thank you for talking about the easy clutch pull on the Ninja. I haven't heard anyone say that yet. That's big too, because the only reason I'm looking at these bikes is as a city commuter with stints on the highway. I'm definitely not a new rider but for my current commute, a light weight and CHEAP bike is exactly what I want. I have yet to ride either bike but that dash and the light clutch are definitely making the Ninja a little more appealing (even though I am not a fan of the way the engine sounds. Still sounds like a Ninja 250 from literally any year from now going back to the age of the dinosaurs)
For those who get stuck in horrendous traffic that light clutch will be a big win, as there's nothing worse than getting hand and arm fatigue simply because the traffic is so bad - especially if you can't filter. I'd pick the Ninja 400 over my Daytona 675 for commuting any day of the week, even with highway stretches. Sadly you only get a nice bit of engine scream at very high speeds and rpm, so the only option is throwing on an aftermarket pipe for a bit more volume. I've got an Arrow Racetech on the Ninja 400 now and that adds a nice tone (for a parallel-twin) and you can run it with or without the baffle.
@@MotoJournoKris Just watched your two videos on that arrow slip-on you have and I like it a lot! Ninja looking better and better :D
@@patw9175 I definitely recommend the exhaust highly, it gives the bike a bit more character and looks great (in my opinion!).
I've had the chance to ride the older R3 and the redesigned 2019 model, and I really enjoyed riding it. Its light weight and smooth, revvy engine make it a joy to ride. I've got enough room in the garage for another bike, and it may very well be the R3.
It makes for an ideal everyday ride, without having to trade off having some fun. Especially if you've got a bike with a more dedicated focus that you don't want to rack up the kms on!
How does the older r3 compare to the redesign? Is it that much better?
Kawasaki Ninja 400 is for those that don't know much about bikes..... just numbers. Yamaha R3 is for those who knows a bit more about bikes......... like fit n' finish, handling, overall balance of bike, etc. This is the troof. :)
These were the two I wanted to check out, compared to the BMW G310R I initially thought would be my first bike (although that is a 'naked' bike) I liked the idea of Kawie's bigger engine w/ a broader torque curve, but it has that old school fork, and I don't care for the styling or paint schemes. Plus, as I commented in one of your other vids, when I got my feet up on the pegs on the Yammie, it just felt right. I think it beautifully splits the difference between being a std and a super sport in terms of rider ergonomics. It's upright and comfortable, but a tiny bit more aggressive w/ slightly lower clip ons and slightly higher pegs, though still under hips, not behind. Yamaha just nailed it on this.
Yamaha have been on the ball since they first introduced the R3 and that's carried through with the updates, there's a lot of competition these days, but they do an exceptional job, especially on these beginner options.
Who else changed their mind as soon as they saw the Ninja in black? 😬
does it come in black anymore?
I own Ninja 400. Not being bias, but i love the N400 torque and power. Even you are on the high gear and just driving smoothly, you still have the more space for power rpm. I like the inverted fork of the R3 though but im 110% satisfied with my N400
The Ninja 400 rocks, they each have a few standout features, but I think most riders would love whichever they pick. I'm really happy with the Ninja 400 too.
Jrap552 love the 400 people can what they want. For me 400 is more then enough power
@@sh9683 Yes! The most thing i love to it is the seat height. I'm only at 5'4 but so comfortable with my N400.
Hey im thinking about buying a n400 too, upgrading from my cbr125 as i get my a2 license, if you have ridden a 125cc bike could you tell me how it feels to upgrade? eg: How the 275cc difference feels like while driving.
@@apparition4196 i also have a 200cc bike until now, i also ridden a 250cc Ninja. comparing to my 200cc bike and my N400, the weight of my Naked bike 200cc is much lesser than n400 but comparing my n400 to N250 the weight of the bike is a very big factor. N400 is so light. less weight means more starting power. and also it helps a lot during traffic
I bought a cbr150r as a trainer bike and after 5k km i think im ready to ride one of these babies
The power creep begins! After that many kms, you'll definitely be ready for a bit more power.
Nice review man. Came across your review since i am opting for R4/Ninja 400. I am looking at CBR500 too
Nice stuff! The CBR500R is a great bike too, heavier than the R3/Ninja 400 and not quite as focused on being a full on 'sportsbike' as these two, which no doubt works in its favour for some riders.
I got my Ninja 400 KRT. Keep it up!
Philippines and Malaysia got the 49hp as per the manual and im in the Philippines. Man feels like a tame 4cyl 600cc
@@fnmaristela Great choice, they look great in the KRT edition if you ask me! Especially when you take less weight into account compared to those 4cyl 600cc it's pretty good power. It's double what you get on a GSX250R, and 60% more than the old CBR300R.
@@ben130i8 And Canadian too lmao i got one too with 48hp, its cause these places aren't strict on emissions its my first bike and idk if the extra 5 hp makes a difference but i can smoke my buddies 2015 r3 np so its abit faster but not crazy
Thanks for the video. Now I have to try to convince my mum to allow me to buy the Ninja 400
That's always a hard one, sometimes you need to go for the less space/expense than a car angle, other times it may be the independence (if they drive you around) appeal, or proving responsibility to show you're ready for two wheels. Bit of a challenge!
I’ve had my 2018 ninja 400 for a while now, but a couple of my mates own the r3, i might add it to my collection.
The only thing better than one motorcycle is two!
Moto Journo Kris so trueee! Just 2 more payments and my ninja 400 is paid off!!
@@RCGJR_ So close, definitely time to start picking out your next bike! (I'm a terrible influence!)
Moto Journo Kris a bad influence, for the good 🤣😈
Nice channel man. I’m doing the same based in Sydney. Keep it up man 🙏🙏👍
Awesome, you too, I'll check out your videos!
Thank god someone made this video,I’m looking at one of these bikes
Hope it helped a bit, if you have any specific questions, just let me know!
I own the 2018 R3 and 2019 Ninja 400. I love the way the R3 sounds and how comfortable it is but the 400 is noticeably faster...the extra torque is much appreciated. The assist/slipper clutch is awesome. The sweet clutch, power, and styling push the 400 over the R3 for my preferences. Both are great bikes for the money. Can't go wrong.
I also bought a 2019 Ninja Zx-6R. 636cc inline 4 is so smooth. Coming from the entry bikes, that thing is a rocketship. However, I find myself riding the r3 and 400 more often for comfort reasons.
Just started riding last year and I'm hooked. Best feeling ever.
@@vtecninja6363 That's a great collection! I had a 636 for a year back in 2013 I think it was, such a nice bike, but sadly not as comfortable as either the R3 or 400. I really wanted a 2004 ZX-636 back in the day, was a bike a mate had and it was absolutely wicked.
Too bad the US won’t get that sweet matte red color choice for the 2019 R3
That's annoying! We didn't get the white version here. Maybe we'll see them rolled out next year for some added variety.
Not sure why, but I don’t like the red. Maybe it grows on you after time.
We got the white though!
Just bought the blue a week ago. I love it 🥰. Rev it out and shift through the gears screaming 😱.. look down at the speedo ..45mph. Perfect!
Theres only the blue and black colour schemes here in my country 😭😡
Hate the body on the ninja, hate the power on r3 I’m torn on what to get
There's always a compromise! The RC390 is a bit of a mid-ground with competitive features vs both, but the styling is a bit more out there.
Thank you for the reviews on the Kawasaki Ninja 400 and Yamaha R3. I have a 2007 Kawasaki 650R Ninja in mint condition with 3,850 miles. I'm thinking of trading my 650R for the Ninja 400 or R3. Would it be a mistake to go down in displacement, power, and torque? Thank you.
That's a bit of a hard one. I think you'd find the Ninja 400 or R3 a much sportier machine, as they are lighter and more revvy. The Ninja 650R on the other hand, especially if it isn't restricted, has more power and torque, which you can take advantage of lower in the rev range. So it would come down to what kind of riding you're doing, and what you're after in the bike. If you wanted to do track days on a smaller capacity machine, or lots of sporty riding where that weight and engine characteristic would be a benefit you'd probably find either an ideal choice.
If you like the extra power and larger bike feel then it might feel like a bit of a downgrade, especially if the weight isn't a factor for you. What were the main reasons you were thinking of switching, if you don't mind me asking?
@@MotoJournoKris I just thought I would like to try a different bike just for a different riding experience because I've had the 650R for quite a few years now, but haven't been riding the bike much.
@@WilliamdThompson To be honest I love the Ninja 400, I've got that and a Daytona 675 and I still have plenty of fun on the 400 even though it's down on power and torque in comparison. If you're looking for a change it would be a fun machine, like I can take it through my local motorcycle road and have as much fun as a bigger bike. As they say sometimes a change is as good as a holiday.
R3💪❤️
R3 sounds like its constantly engine breaking.
What is the most beautiful sound? Ninja 400 or R3?
I think that will come largely down to what exhaust you fit. Both are quiet stock. I feel like parallel twins are very reliant on a good muffler for a nice tone. I do like the Arrow on the Ninja though.
R3 win the looks but Ninja win the speed
sorry dude!, i disagree with you..
Tsk2 disagree
By that logic, you think a hellcat can beat a Porsche 718 on a track. I prefer an overall quality package. Not just one good thing and rest avererage. I will admit I am a little biased towards the r3 since I am a yamaha fan.
So which one is better ? I wanna buy the ninja 400 or R3a but idk wich one I need to take somebody can help me?
If you still can't decide after test riding, sitting on them and weighing up the differences I'd fall back on going for the one that you like the look of the most. You're going to have the bike a while and want something that'll make you smile every time you see.
I have both 2021 bikes and let me tell you the ninja 400 is 100 times better. The 7 more torque and hp is a very big difference. And the ninja is a little taller and has more of a slim gas tank and fits way better. The r3 is just not even on the same level to me. The ninja 400 is sick in red just a heads up lol
Yep it really stands out in the red. The extra torque from the Ninja is pretty huge, as the speeds rise that's a lot more propulsion to get there faster. Whether you really need that on the roads comes down to preference, I don't think anyone would ever complain about the extra performance.
So the 400 has over 20% more power then the r3 and u say that's not much. 🤔
Choosing a motorcycle is not like choosing a car.. You just go wit the faster one
Yes. N400 all day!
That is stupid logic.
@@buknoychiifiocchii8058 It depends on your skill and reflexes. Faster=Monster
Where can I buy a cargo rack / luggage box. I want to put a givi on the ninja 400. On the official site only shows for ninja 650. Can someone help I want it for work.
I'm not sure about a Givi, but a Coocase can be fitted onto the Ventura rack system fitted here, I've run a Coocase Wizard 36L top box when I've needed waterproof luggage or secure storage and it works really well. Ventura also have a 32L Astro topbox. I've run a 60L on a bigger 600 in the past but I think it might be a bit big for the Ninja 400, especially if you loaded it up a lot.
because of this i subscribed to your channek bro keep it up
Thanks! If you've got anything specific you'd like covered in a future video let me know, and I'll see what I can do.
Great 👍🏽 review!!! Thank you 🙏🏽
Great video Kris! Which of these do you reckon would be better to take to the track stock?
Even though I own a Ninja 400 and have had heaps of fun on a Ninja 300 at the track in the past, I think the R3 really shines in this area, and that would be my pick. Although there's nothing wrong with the Ninja 400 either.
That’s what I would have thought given the tighter suspension and smoother throttle response. I’m intrigued by the extra displacement, but smoothness is paramount.
@@DigitalJournalist Yep that's my thought exactly. For the racers they'll probably benefit more from the extra torque, where they need an edge, however as a regular rider I think the suspension and smoothness wins out on the track.
The ninja 400 is the best
Go with the ninja 650 if you can afford one. I got my first bike brand new ninja 650 no issues learning
You right bro. Small amount between N400 and N650. So go with N650
So which one felt more comfy to ride on your roads? You said the suspension is stiffer on the R3 but then the seat is softer. Also, which seat is wider ? I'm not a big fan of narrow seats.
The Ninja 400 definitely has a softer suspension setup, which will be more comfortable on rough roads, but I found the R3 overall more comfortable for longer rides simply because the seat wasn't such an issue. Both are quite narrow at the tank to help make for an easy reach to the ground, but I'm not sure exactly how they compare. Both are much wider at the rear of the seat and I wouldn't have said the narrowness was the comfort issue on the Ninja 400 - that's more the material/design.
Hello Kris, really enjoyed the in depth reviews! We only have the 250cc versions of the same bikes here (ninja 250 & r25 rather than 400 & r3), I'm curious to know which bike would you choose if both bikes have +- the same power? And is the on/off throttle thing on the ninja really that annoying compared to other bikes? I currently own a gsx s150 and planning to get either the ninja or the MT-25 for city riding. Thanks!
Thanks! If the bikes are pretty evenly matched I would normally say go for the one you love the look of. The off throttle isn't a big issue but it's something I always notice, sometimes moreso in traffic conditions, but it will depend on your riding style. More aggressive on the throttle and brakes and you'll probably notice it less.
Is that Ninja 250 the twin or the single-cylinder version (SL)?
@Moto Journo Kris Its the twin cylinder with 249cc & same exact model, and probably it has the same engine characteristics as the 400..maybe? I do know here in Indonesia people say that the ninja is the smoothest in its class especially in the lower rpms, compared to the R25 which has better torque down low. Something to do with the double valves on the ninja i think.
I also watched your review of the MT-03 and I feel like the mt-25 is the most logical decision for me with all that comfort setup & refined engine, but i just love the looks of the ninja & will probably go with the ninja :) And props to kawasaki for making a 250cc version, as anything above 250cc in Indonesia will be charged additional taxes- For example the standard ninja 250 is 4,500 USD and a new ZX6R is 22,120 USD... At least there's the ZX-25R.. maybe i should get that instead ;)
@@Cloudstatik Oh wow that's a big tax. To be honest I'm not 100% sure, I know the off-throttle feeling was the same on the Ninja 300 or maybe a little worse, but I'm drawing a blank on the 250 prior to that. That ZX-25R is a beautiful machine, but I imagine the regular 250 would be a lot easier on the wallet, especially over the long term for servicing.
@@MotoJournoKris Agreed. Well thank you for replying Kris, I definitely learned a lot from your channel 👍🏻
Excellent video, Thank you.
I heard a lot about r3's but everyone tells me that ninja 400 is better... But with the smoothness and comfortably the r3 may be my choice. I gotta say that the ninja 400 looks hotter and sharper but the r3 looks smoother. I'm going to the dealer today to see which one i would want to get.
That's a great way of looking at it. I don't really think one is better than the other unless you value a specific feature that one of the bike offers better than the other. The R3 is definitely smoother and a bit more refined in the engine performance. The Ninja though offsets that with the greater torque. The Ninja seat is a consideration for comfort too, but is an easier fix. Then it's just how you personally feel on each bike which will vary totally on your height and proportions! It's definitely worth checking them out the dealer, let us know how you go!
Yes YAMAHA 😀
Hi.
Im 5foot6, 70kg. what would you recommend with either of the two? Thanks.
Hey Rhan, both have very similar seat heights, so it's a bit of a personal preference over whether you want the additional power and torque of the Ninja and like how it looks, or whether you'd prefer the smoother power on the R3 and sportier (but also stiffer) suspension on the Yamaha, and how it looks. There's a similar reach to the ground and both are very beginner friendly.
@@MotoJournoKris thanks
I recommend the honda grom
Absolutely picking the R3. If its kawasaki, it should be zx250r i4
That 250-4 looks like a seriously cool piece of kit!
I'm not sure of it but do these two bikes have the same top speeds?
From what I understand there's about 4 mph difference between the two, although the extra torque of the Ninja does mean it gets there quite a bit faster.
Can either of these bikes cope with a heavy new rider? Around 125kgs?
Good question, I know some heavier riders around the 100kg mark haven't had an issue, but obviously having basic suspension there's not a heap of adjustability if you don't find it suits you. I've ridden the Ninja 400 two-up quite a lot too, which would be 150kg+ of riders, and there's been no issue there.
Moto Journo Kris thats good to know about the ninja 400. We are looking at that bike as well as the z400. Cant get out to test ride anything eight now as we’re in lockdown Melbourne. Just doing some research to narrow the search down when we can get out again.
@@MsChrisep You've got it particularly hard down there at the moment, but a motorcycle is something nice to look forward to!
Im 6 foot 1, thinking of getting my first bike, what would you recommend with either of the two? Aesthetic wise, i dont want to look like a dude with a "cute" bike.
Thank you in advance bro. Nice vid.
They both have that bigger bike look and are more likely to be mistaken for a 600 at a glance, and are pretty similar sizes. It can be a bit rough when you make the bike look smaller than it is! The R3 probably has a bit more room behind the screen with the latest version for a larger rider, but that may make it seem a little smaller when you're not in full racer crouch, as the tank will be a little lower.
The designs and fairings are really intended to have that full bike feel.
@@MotoJournoKris r3 it is!! Big help man!! Thank you.
I own both and I'm also 6'1". I feel more manly on how I fit on the 400. I feel like I'm sitting further down in the R3 and my legs are more scrunched up. I have a picture of me sitting on both if you want to see an example of somebody your height on them.
@@vtecninja6363 can i take a look?
@@vtecninja6363 it'll be a big help if you can email it to me. Thanks man.
I'm 152cm and 50kgs. Which one of these bikes would you recommend?
The R3 may feel a little smaller with the lower tank and 'bars from an upper body perspective, but I'd recommend sitting on each and and seeing how the reach to the ground is, as that's most likely to be the biggest factor. The R3 is 5mm lower on seat height, but both are quite narrow between the legs and across the front of the seat, and have a relatively low centre of gravity. You might find the weight a bit more noticeable as a shorter rider however. You'll probably be on tippy-toes on either.
Why would you shift into neutral in traffic? I stay in first.
Some riders shift into neutral at a stop, rather than having to hold the clutch in. Way back when I started riding that seems to be the recommendation for training from what I vaguely remember. That said I normally stay in first unless I'm stuck somewhere with an extended wait, like a long light.
What kind of luggage rack is it that you have on the back of your Ninja 400?
Found it. Ventura Rally-Euro Touring-kit
@@TreyEthridge Yep, lots of different options in the Ventura range, the EVO options are a lot sportier if you want something smaller, and the rack is flat.
How do you think a full akra exhaust and a power commander might impact the R3's performance and ride quality?
That's a hard one. I know the claims are about 3hp and a couple of Nm of torque at 11500rpm extra with that setup, with some other full systems offering a pretty noticeable torque increase across the rev range as proven on the dyno for the R3. Aftermarket systems also normally feel a little less restrictive, so even where they aren't providing any performance benefits, as a rider they tend to be preferred unless they create fueling issues.
I normally go for a slip-on simply because they are much cheaper and don't need the tune (which saves further money), but it depends what you're after. Anything with more volume would be nice, while the standard fueling is really good on the R3, possibly the best of any learner (or comparable) stock machine I've tested to be honest.
The biggest gain will be the torque if it's tuned well, and saving 5kg of weight is pretty significant too, especially being carried that low on the bike. It's just a big expense for a small machine, especially if you aren't keeping it for a few years. On the bright side, reselling the exhaust and PC should recoup a lot of that expense if done separately...
@@MotoJournoKris if you were going to run a power commander and a full exhaust system would you personally choose a different exhaust to run? And why?
@@Cookies205 I'd probably grab the full Akro that's available through Yamaha, it seems well priced, but isn't quite as impressive as the version I was looking at for the older R3 models, which was lighter and offered a bit more claimed power and torque increases. It depends if you want a specific look or just the best performance gains. I normally go on looks, price then performance, in that order. If you're really after performance it'll be fairly different.
@@MotoJournoKris interesting... thanks for the replies, I appreciate it!
Bought the r3. So light and fun.
Great choice! Which colour did you go with?
@@MotoJournoKris The matte black😀
Here in ny you can negotiate and get a ninja 400 abs for $3700 with some extra stuff such as like a helmet or an icon vest which goes for 100-200 on their website
It's always worth bargaining hard when you're buying a bike at a motorcycle dealership as you've got the buying power between the bike and anything else you're after!
Where exactly??
just got me Ls today and went out to buy a R3 2019, however here in Sydney it's quite daunting to ride first time out there. What would you recommend to practice and learn before heading out into the busy traffic here?
Love your content btw :)
Thanks and congratulations! I actually started out just riding up and down the road I lived on when it was quieter of a weekend, which was just off a main road (Sydney traffic is crazy!). Just practicing getting your take off and clutch balance consistent is the big thing to start with, because it's so nerve wracking thinking you might stall, and in my experience the more I think about it the more I'd stuff it up (with everything not just riding)! That and getting used to braking and putting a foot down so it comes naturally.
If you've got a nearby carpark that's big and empty that you can get to when it's really quiet, that's a great place too. I rode around a local park a lot when I first started, working on the clutch, brakes and changing gears. Get comfortable on the bike and don't feel pressured to go way past that comfort zone. There's a lot to think about that first few rides (even just up and down the road) but it becomes natural the more you do it, and that's an awesome bike to start on!
I'll try and put together a video today on some tips!
@@MotoJournoKris Thank you so much that would be awesome to watch!
Keep up the good work I love your videos :)
@@jeffreytang2000 I was in the same boat as you, I picked up my brand new Yamaha R3 from the dealer in Paramatta and rode it to the city on Paramatta Road at 5pm on a Friday ... it was an embarrassing spectacle but I got home safe. I had no prior biking experience so I am sure you will be fine. Although I would recommend purchasing frame sliders. I paid $500 for them (including installation) and fortunately never had to use them. But when you are brand new to riding it may be worth buying them because fairings are very very expensive!
@@guus2072 I bought from the same dealer in Parramatta (BikeBiz), however in my area there are a lot of hills and I found that I need to practice stopping and going from uphill situations. Aside from that I am fairly confident, though not enough to go onto the highway. But damn, you are ballsy to drive all the way to city I was too scared I would stall me bike and worsen the traffic haha
@@jeffreytang2000 I am in exactly the same boat as you, 2019 r3 from bikebiz parramatta - my first rid on L's will be after they deliver it to me this week.
Which among these bikes are good for sports touring?
Of the two I'd lean towards the R3 just because of the more comfortable seat, but apart from that, either should do the job, and a comfort seat on the Ninja would really help for longer rides.
Agree with Moto. However, I found the Ninja 400 to be more stable on the highway. The extra power of the 400 makes me feel safer on the highway as well. The 400 seat isn't bad but R3 seat is definitely more comfortable. I've taken multiple 4 hour trips one way on both bikes. I prefer the 400.
hey Kris, I just have a question. I'm looking to get my first bike and I've narrowed it down to these two bikes. Currently, I'm able to get the ninja 400 for $700AUD cheaper than the R3 both new. Also since it seems as though these two are such close in competition. Do you think it's better off I go for The Cheaper Ninja 400? Keep in mind I'm planning to keep the bike as long as I can before trading up And it will just be for everyday use. Oh and i could use the extra $700 for good gear :)
I'd definitely say they are very close. The 2019 R3 has the sharper suspension which if you were doing more track riding might be better out of the box, but the Ninja 400 comes out a bit in front on the brakes and the extra mid-range is nice - not that the R3 is lacking it just is more linear. I'd probably factor in a comfort seat for the Ninja 400 if you're riding a fair bit, as that's one thing that you'll want to do. If you can get a great deal though on a bike you want and spend the extra on gear or training, that's going to be a good choice!
Thanks for the advice! 😊
Cbr300 woukd be the Honda in the same class. Cbr500 is a quite a bit more in terms of price.
True!
I have the CF Moto 450SS a beauty of a machine. Tearing up the American highways.....lol.
Very nice, I'm hoping I'll get to ride one, as interested to see how it compares to the Ninja!
I am currently riding 2017 Ninja 300. I commute to work which involves 40 mins of city and 15 mins of highway riding. Is it upgrading to 400? I mean I love my 300 in the city and I do not ride fast, but on a highway with more than 55 mph, it just screams(!?) too much. I am a bit torn between keeping on riding 300 and upgrading to 400. Or should I just go for 650's (Ninja or CBR?)
Are you looking at the A2 restricted 650s, or the full power versions? If you've started on a 300 and been on it a while you'll probably appreciate the extra performance the unrestricted versions offer. It's a nice jump from the 300 to the 400, but much smaller than going to something in the 70hp region.
@@MotoJournoKris I do not know what it means by "A2 restricted" since here in the U.S., all motorcycle licenses are the same..(I think). I just want to be abke to cruise comfortably at 65-70 mph (or 105-115 kmh?). Most riders recommend 650's.. I guess I just have to try both myself..
@@Tobeon2 Yep in the US you don't have the A2 versions which are restricted to 35kW (about 50hp), so it'll be a bigger upgrade to the 650s, otherwise those machines have similar power to the 400 where they are A2 restricted. You'll probably find the 650s offer the best highway cruising comfort. The Ninja 400 will easily cruise at about 120km/h but it'll be revving higher than a 650.
@@buknoychiifiocchii8058 Not too fast at all. I do not think I ride faster than 90 mph in general even on open highways,. But., a scooter does not look good to me.. hehe.. 😜😎😂
@@Tobeon2 They are good run-arounds but just not the same as a real motorcycle!
Which has better exhaust sound?
They are both very very quiet stock and only really develop a bit of that racer scream at high rpms, so you'd need an aftermarket exhaust on either for a nice exhaust sound.
@@MotoJournoKris so there are no difference in sound between this two bikes?
@@zhouxxiao9732 They are each different, but both are very very quiet, enough so that I'd need an aftermarket exhaust on each to really rate the exhaust notes.
The KTM RC390 imo is a better sportsbike. The ninja is the better all-rounder but the rc390 is a small racebike.
It really depends what you're after at the end of the day, there's compromises with each of the choices. The RC390 makes the least in the category as far as being an all out sportsbike/track weapon, which makes it hard to beat if you're purely after that!
Enjoy rebuilding the engine after 20000k would take a japanese bike over a an indian build ktm
I like the idea of the rc390 ,I find it super sexy and the Ninja 400 only just gets it on power after all this time. But I found too many negative comments on engine repair. No way can I feild an rc390 and a rx8 😁
For a new rider that won't go to the tracks and will be using the bike for city and road. Wich would be a better choice? I'm Brazilian an both of them cost pretty much the same. However the ergonomics on the r3 might fit me better (I'm 1,70m) and I'm in love with the blue color.
I'd always go for the bike that fits best, especially if you prefer the colour/styling. The R3 is a great machine even if you never head to the track.
@@MotoJournoKris One last question. Should I buy a used one or invest the money for a brand new? does the r3 change too much from the 2018 and 2019 model?
@@RafaelSilva-nq2in The 2019 has sportier suspension, and updated ergonomics, with a lower tank and bars, plus a new LCD and the styling. As far as general engine/brake performance there's no change, and depending if your roads are in really bad condition you might find the 2018 a little more forgiving on the suspension side of things. The 2018s and earlier are still great machines, and there's often great deals to be found on them. If you haven't got a good set of gear, that may be a good way of saving a bit of money on the bike, and getting quality gear. Hope that helps!
@@MotoJournoKris thanks so much for your patience. I appreciate the help.
@@RafaelSilva-nq2in If you've got any other questions or have any topics you'd like a video on that you can't find answers to, let me know.
So which ones faster or better ?
Top speeds are pretty similar, the Ninja 400 benefits from more torque, which will make it a bit faster off the mark and through the mid-range.
Ninja 400 KRT ERRDAY !
in that category 100cc really matter..
I believe you mean 80cc :) (320cc vs 400cc)
@@skewty haha ;)
Scott Palmer I believe you mean 78cc :)
(321 vs 399)
@@Yok3s you trapped the trapper, well played my good sir
Lol I just hate fucking retards going around the internet correcting people when they’re aren’t even right lmao what kind of loser does that :).
You should have compared the r3 with the ninja 300 not with the ninja 400. Why and how?
I might put together a video for those thinking second hand, as there's great deals going on the Ninja 300, while the older R3s are still great machines. I just did the two newest models for this one.
The CBR 250RR makes more sense for comparo!
@@nildev7264 That would actually be a really cool comparo to do, the CBR250RR fours were huge when I first started riding. Be interesting to see how they stack up today!
I had the same thought
Hey mate, can you review the cbr500r 2020 or even 2019..
I'll have to see if I can get my hands on some Hondas, there's a heap of their models I'm really keen to test, including the latest CBR500R.
@@MotoJournoKris awesome..
The u.s. should have restrictions too my first bike was a 600cc scared the shit out of me at first no everyone should be able to just go out and get one tho
It's a hard one, being such a large country with many states to get consensus. I mean in a way it's up to individuals to make good choices knowing many won't, but at least these days its easier with so much info available on good beginner options, where in the past there wasn't much to choose from! Some people benefit from a bit of common sense being forced on them, but that means everyone else has to be limited too, which comes down to lowering the fatality and accident rate (which hopefully also means less police attention). The restrictions also help smaller bikes hold value which is good, but can also mean it's more expensive to get started. We also have two stages of training courses as part of the process, which helps as you get much cheaper training as part of it all.
I remember going from a 250 (which had it's moments as a new rider) to a 90hp FZ6N as my first 'real' bike and the power was crazy, and that's still a big step down compared to a 600cc supersport. Thinking back to some of the trouble I managed on the little 250, had I been on a 90+hp 600 it would probably have been a much more serious result, and when you're young you normally learn these things the painful way.
Moto Journo Kris you make a few good points it is ultimately up to the rider to make a good decision but like you said some of us benefit from a little bit of help lol
so the ninja is faster?
There's not much between the two, the Ninja has a bit of an advantage down low thanks to the torque, however the R3 feels great in the same scenario with the smooth power delivery and you'd rev it out more for the top end. As far as top speeds they both end up at pretty similar figures.
R3
What colour do you reckon? I thought the new Teal looked amazing.
Im actually waiting for R4 hahaha. Yamaha's design is soooo good.
It'll be interesting to see what Yamaha do next!
I want green or red color of ninja 400
They really stand out in the bright colours! Especially the front fairing.
Ill go with ninja 400
Good choice, what colour would you pick?
Kawasaki is the best
What..!! In indonesia those version looks like the 250 cc ones..
They might have received the same styling update or fairings.
400 ninja all the way
ninja 400 the best
We love ours, what colour would you go?
Great review👌 If you wanna see the best Ninja 400 owner's review here on YT go check my latest vid.
Reliability?. Who wins?. Thanks in advance.
The R3 is arguably the more proven engine having been around longer on the road unchanged, but it's hard to imagine either would have reliability problems when taken care of and serviced properly. I've heard about some people with some issues with the Ninja 400 clutch, but personally haven't had any issues, and I don't follow the R3 forums and community enough to say whether there's anything to look out for there. Buying second hand down the track particularly the big thing to watch out for is these bikes having been thrown down the road and not properly serviced or just abused.
Moto Journo Kris That makes a lot of sense, thank you for the reply.
Ninga 400 for sure
What colour you reckon?
@@MotoJournoKris green
The ninja 400 has a 100cc more than r3
In other news....In the USA any rider with a permit can ride a R1 or Hayabusa. I know....its the FREEDOM of the USA!!!
Natural selection doing its job I guess 🚀🚘🚦🚨😱
why loose time with a 300 yamaha and suzuki with a 250 ...400 is the standard, just big enough but just small enough... whatever they prefer to let the ninja eat it all
I see you are not counter steering on yamaha r3 could be risky
If the new R3 weren't soo ugly I will go for it. N400 didn't like either... RC390 or R3 2018. Period.
Fair enough!
the R3 isn't ugly , you have bad taste
I cant wait to turn 18 and be able to get an a2 license but got damb waiting for that basically means skipping this season completly as my bday is next january lol ;-;
It's worth the wait, even if that doesn't make the wait any easier!
@@MotoJournoKris yeah well hopefully by then there would be some people selling used ninja 400s in my country xD
@@vali69 There probably will be some up for sale. I see a lot of them in my area with like 2000kms on the odometer. People buy them and ride them for like 3 months then upgrade.
@@reno-9148 yeah... in my country there arent a lot of riders... let alone a lot of beginner bikers who would biy brand new bikes... yeah sure there are some but they wont sell their bikes untill they get their full a license 2 years after buying this one
@@vali69 Yeah riding is very big were i live and im fortunate enough to live in a country thats very lenient on the bikers, we have learners liscences for anyone between the age of 16 and 18 (125cc) and then above 18 is any size engine. I ride a 675 F3 but im turning 17 next month. I've been pulled over 4 times but the traffic officers either havent noticed my age or they just dont care enough to write out the fine. Good luck with your future riding and be safe 🤘
R4 wins 2021 😂
Haha, you could be right, we'll have to wait and see. It'll be an R4 - 421cc :D
The ninja 400 is just better. Period. The r3 is about as good as the r6, which was discontinued.
I think a lot of people would argue the R6 was the pinnacle of the supersport category and still is, hence being track only now.
@@MotoJournoKris some people don't know about bikes and how they suck to ride if you have to consistently turn 14k rpm's. Facts don't care about your feelings. They just don't, never did.
@@MotoJournoKris even though your aggressively wrong, glad you replied.
@@donniebaynard8430 No worries, I should have made that clearer, I was talking racing where the R6 certainly deserves that accolade, which is why that's what they are continued to be sold for. Can certainly criticise the peaky power for the road on the R6, The R3 however is a great little road machine, if lacking the torque of the 400.
You never know some People Choose to Stop @ 250cc , 300cc, or maybe 400cc. Its common but, everyone isn't looking to move up 2to a 750cc, or a 1000cc. In not hating on Large Displacement bikes i ride as well, but a 750cc, or a 1000cc isn't nessesary for most Commutes . My Commute to Work is about an Hr away from Home with about 40% Highway and i do it on my 2016 Kymco People GTi 300. ruclips.net/video/hZrKc6sFH40/видео.html
Definitely, I've got a Daytona 675 but often choose to ride the Ninja 400 for the daily commute. I think for a lot of new riders there's a real appeal in upgrading once they pass a restricted license, if for no other reason than just being allowed to at long last. It can take a few different bikes to finally settle on something more permanent, although some (lucky) riders upgrade frequently!
@@MotoJournoKris ok my guest is your referring to riders outside of the US becsuse in the US we can start as big as we want to.
Guess its my mind set i prefer the lower mid Displacement bike personally tho I've ridden much much larger Motorcycles of some of my friends . To me i rather just ride a motorcycle/scooter that makes the most practical scence to me. By the way i do agree with some parts of your comment bro.
@@lb150t Definitely! Yea it's a bit complex, I'm based in Australia and we have three years on a restricted machine, before we can go to a full machine. Which I think is good because it helps people start on something that's a little bit less likely to get them into big trouble, and often a bit easier to learn riding skills on. The by-product of being stuck on a smaller bike is that once people can upgrade they want to, even if they don't really need to.
I actually rode my wife's Aprilia 250 scooter for a while when my bike was in the shop (don't tell anyone) and that was great for commuting in traffic. I actually blew out a gasket riding it too hard!
@Moto Joumo Kris Lol wow bro i actually favor the smaller displacement Motorcycles, & this is coming from someone that live in the US. Its kind of unheard of here. Man i wish we had the CBR 150RR, Yamaha R15, & 25 just to name a few. Buy the way even tho i do have a full MC Endorsement I'm a self proclaimed Scooterist wish we had the Euro Spec version of my current 2016 Kymco People GTi 300 as well as many others. ruclips.net/video/HYwDgfCoUFo/видео.html
@@MotoJournoKris Oh, & your secret safe with me lol .
R3 is ugly
hey fuck you, you're ugly not the beautiful R3 shithead
@@buknoychiifiocchii8058 if you agree with fuck you, you're a dumbfuck too, the R3 is beautiful
On effeminated voice: R3 is ugly......