Morophon vs Ghave vs Ur-Dragon vs Meren EDH / CMDR game play
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
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Mad respect to skylar for trying to play the GOD SQUAD
I used to play a karona deck with the 15 theros gods plus allthe 5 hybrid mana creatures for devotion xD
@@urdeadnub5 Playing Gods has the fun of playing slivers except everyone doesnt immediately target you
My Prime Speaker Zegana deck runs every single god in Simic. :)
My Progenitus deck ran all the Theros Gods, 20+wheel effects, and cards like Replenish, Open the Vaults, and Patriarch's Bidding to summon them all at once. Dubbed it "Wheel of the Gods".
@@tcjester89 Dude did you put in primordials rebirth, that card would bomb in that deck
When I saw the handshakes, I almost thought it was an agreement that Meren is the archenemy. :P
This game is clear indication why you should be running targeted removal and graveyard hate in your deck.
Until they learn, they won’t learn haha
Cam (Meren) and I (Ghave) both run recursion in our decks, which cuts out most symmetrical graveyard hate. As for targeted removal, there was a Go for the Throat, Swords to Plowshares, Nature's Claim, and Noxious Gearhulk played. Never mind all the other creature removal Cam was pumping out.
@@awesomeatm Then use asymmetrical graveyard hate? All my decks have crypt and the black decks have bojuka bog. No excuses.
And if there was so much, I cant fathom why you let meren stick around for more than turn cycle.
KromeDrone My main deck is meren. It I played s game where meren was killed 5 times before getting a cycle out. Which is fine cause meren isn’t the star of the deck. Its cards like deadbridge chant in my deck that takes the game. Also as a grave player the worst thing you can do is fill the grave as fast as you can. I will hold onto a spell that helps fill the grave just incase that grave gets exiled. There is always an excuse. If i see the game is a grave hate game i’ll switch to my second strategy. Mazerick. either way i’m never turned off. My group realized this and now i am no longer targeted They focus on out valuing and trying to proceed their board. People learned you can’t deal with Meren and promote yourself at the same time.
Game fall into this. I play my deck, two players try to turn me off. Waste their game and the fourth takes the free win. This happens too often people see it.
@@KromeDrone I like to run player removal, as opposed to creature removal. 🤙
Dooring people to the shadow realm always feels good.
Zombies from Oketra are supposed to be 4/4 with vigilance
Meren was was too passive with that Buried Alive. Go for the throat man
I guess it's not fun to win trough a very known combo on early turns, especially not for the camera
I normally go for Protein Hulk, Eternal Witness and either a Sac outlet if I need one or Void Winnower.
That's a different card though?
GoatGamez Search those 3 cards with Buried Alive so they are in my GY.
Should've turn 3 buried alive and fleshbag maurauder. I'm only 3 minutes in and I think this guy is gonna play pretty passively throughout. Hoping I'm wrong because that was a strong opening hand and id hate to see it wasted
Morophon God tribal was beautiful, even though it never really took off.
Ur-Dragon always makes a game worth a watch
*dragons make it worth watching
So Aidan had infinite saprolings for like half the game right? I guess the group never fought against the king of combos.
i was thinking the same thing. i have someone in my playgroup who plays ghave and when he dropped ashnod's altar i was like "is this game gonna end this quick?"
I thought he didn't go infinite out of honor, but then he did it later in a defferent way anyway. I guess he just missed it.
I thought, "Marath, Will of the Combo" was the king of combos? Ghave is definitely a contender though.
It's probably cos they didnt know each other till this game , and he didnt wanna leave a bad taste in the other players mouth.
I think it's more likely that he didn't want to replace Cam as Enemy #1, and picked the right moment to combo off
I love the fact that you leave things like the players introducing themselves in the edit
Literally just searched for a Meren game and found your channel. Great content, I sometimes have a hard time following games on camera but the narration was interesting and made it very easy.
5:29 Didn't he put Dryad Arbor into his graveyard off of Buried Alive? He could play that off of the Ramunap Excavator
i though the same
Same
Ditto
YEEEEEEEEAP
i mean, it would be good to have a judge or something when filming the games....
every match we see a "missplay"
I’m just wondering why he even chose it as a target if he wasn’t going to abuse it somehow. Like what was the plan? He could’ve just gotten something else seeing as it did nothing
Oh look it's every single Meren deck.
Door to Nothingness, whoo! My brother's considering adding it to his Golos deck since he's already stacking alternate wincons that don't interfere with each other. (Currently has Maze's End as his main wincon, with Felidar Sovereign and Approach of the Second Sun on the side if the gates plan goes awry.)
It is better in Ramos. But yeah if you already are 5C, especially if you have the Amulet to get around the Gates
I have the same way for mine! Also Dark depths+Thespian stage, Cabal Coffers+Urborg, along with freed from the wheel with land untappers for infinite Mana early on for golos triggers. Funniest win I got was I kept casting Approach for the second off of golos and had sanguine bond to ping everyone with the life gain. I also run bolas's citadel because it's busted in commander.
My 5-color Morophon bringer tribal deck (lol) has horizon chimera and drogskol reaver/lich’s mastery as a win condition to deck myself, and then flash out lab man at the last second
Keep up the great content! One of my favorite channels on RUclips!
I have been watching these religiously for months, could watch 3000 more. Keep it up!
Ghave + Ashnod's Altar + Cathars' Crusade = Infinite colorless mana + Infinite Saprolings (who are infinitely large) as well as an infinitely large Ghave. Granted you need one mana to start the combo: you pay 1 to activate ghave to remove a counter from ghave to create a 1/1 saproling which triggers the crusade upon saproling entering giving all creatures including ghave a +1/+1 counter. Sacrifice the newly mage saproling to the altar for 2 colorless. Use one of the colorless to repeat the first loop netting 1 colorless everytime. With infinite colorless mana remove counters from ghave to make saprolings which trigger the crusade meaning ghave never looses counters now you have infinite saprolings. Now with infinite mana and creatures you can add counters onto all of them with Ghave's second ability. He can't do this with infinite green mana (druid/remedy combo) because at that time there was no way to replace the counters that you need to remove with ghave to create saprolings. You need a creature with undying like young wolf or geralf's messenger or strangelroot geist and a sacrifice outlet like ashnod's altar or phyrexian altar that produce mana. Or the druid/remedy combo with an undying creature and a sacrifice outlet like visera seer or carrion feeder. Yes Ghave does many combos but you need the right pieces and the Ghave player in this video could have gone infinite in response to the living death trigger on the stack but they all would have died after the spell resolved. So living death was pretty clutch in this scenario.
Great game! I loved when DJ got Cam to sign the card.
I personally would like that players would not stack up their mana sources. Aside from it being a no-no as it hides open information it is also bad for viewers because you cannot see just how many sources someone has
A couple of my friends do that too, not only with mana but with creatures too. It bothers me, though I do understand why they do it.
I know this video is kinda old and this comment. But yes, Aidan had infinite with Ashnods alter, Vizier and Devoted druid. He would have been able to kill one person at least.
Ohhhhh Aidan as a fellow Ghave player don’t forget the second ability targets any creature. At 7:26 in response to Elshnorn sacrifice whisper and somberwald to asnod, remove 4 counters from ghave, sac 3 to ashnod, then remove 2 more counters from ghave to make 2 more saporlings, finally use mana to sac 3 saporlings and ghave to give 4 +1/+1 counters therby saving your infinite mana combo. Could have wrapped this game up in 1/2 the time.
I don't think he could respond to Elesh Norn entering. Her ability is a static effect that happens as soon as she hits the field.
He could have responded to the casting of Elesh Norn though
What jason said i should have been more clear that it was in response to the casting of elsh norn not the enter the battlefield. Especially knowing when she hits they die anyway
Oh I see what you're saying now!
You're very right Ben!! I didn't see that line.
I once had an opponent put a Doorway to Nothingness in play and I responded with a Grip of Chaos. Apparently he didn't feel very lucky, because he ended up not activating it
anyone else triggered by the open can of soda on the playmat??
DJ likes to live dangerously.
Yep. Had a guy in our group one time that did this until he knocked it over and spilled it onto one of my buddies' playmat, and got into the sleeves of some not so cheap cards. The situation escalated very quickly
Instantly
Been waiting all day for this vid! Finally here!
Man God tribal is hype with morophon, we need to see more of it
15:40 they forgot about the death touch atk trigger from naya's bow. Dj's dragon should have died. Before oketra took dmg.
If Meren and/or Ghave are in a game I'm watching it! Nice!!
For time watching you guys videos, I was actually at the edge my seat wondering how this game was going to turn out. Really didn't expect that
The first goblin noise is the best goblin noise!
DJ playing with that unicorn mat has nothing else to lose
As a fellow Meren player Cam’s game was golden to see.
Is that... is that...god tribal ?
11:50 lol cam was tryna be clever and WHAM Aidan comes out with that play. Play of the game right there
I love the fact that Aidan was "I could kill you know, but for more pleasure I will deal infinite damage to you and also gain infinite life" xD
Also making infinitely large creatures :)
It seems that Skylar missed a few Athreos Triggers...Morophon and the other creatures he sacced didn't need to go to the command zone or graveyard respectively.
All in all another great game! Keep it up man!
Morophon wouldn't have triggered it unless Skylar made the distinct point of sending his commander to the yard. I don't believe he had a ton of ways to recur Morophon from there, so I'm pretty sure his opponents would have happily paid some life to deny him access.
@@MTGMuddstah oh I didn't think about that at all. Whoops. Thanks for explaining!
Felt bad for DJ most of the game with all that creature removals, but he really came back with that door to nothingness. That was epic haha.
Door to Nothingness! I've been dying to see that card work and omg it felt goooood!
Bro the ramp on meren she was gonna win for sure with that opening also the meren player pretty much could’ve won turn 3 or 4 if he had the necrotic ooze combo
I called the end of this game as soon as Ashnod's Altar resolved. Aiden should have been shown the door.
Honestly! I didn't use it at all, so no one seemed to mind me having it out haha!
Hey gang, welcome back!!
I'd be mad as hell losing to door to nothingness when I had such a commanding lead. Cam is a better sport then I.
Where's Cam's decklist? There's no link.
Another great video with some great plays.
Where is the decklist for meren?
Damn it was cool to watch ghave in action again used to have a similar combo edh deck ended up losing all my cards. Been 6-7 years since I’ve played got any syggestion on how to get back into gaming COVID kinda screws stuff up 😂
Meren is my all time favorite commander. Just OOZING value.
no meren decklist yet? D:
Mah Boi Ghave won, when i saw that Cathars Crusade hit the field i was screaming "JUST 1 MORE TURN AND YOU WIN WITH UNLIMITED CREATURES WITH UNLIMITED POWA MAH BOI!" But the Blood Artist works too.
Ghave + cathar's crusade + ashnod's altar always makes me giggle inside :^)
Im curious why Cam didn't go for something like a Caustic Caterpillar or a Rec Sage with the buried alive? Ashinods alter is almost never used fairly and it combos pretty easily with Ghave. Getting either of them also would have incidentally saved him from dying to the door, but that was gold and I'm glad it was on camera.
Also shout out to God tribal Morophon. That's the exact deck I want to make with him.
I like how people were so desperate to stop Cam's oppression that they completely missed the fact that Aidan already had Ashnod's Altar and Cathars' Crusade, two pieces that allowed Ghave to go infinite.
Any games with Yarok soon? ^.^
Poor DJ man this is why this man needs haste enablers
Every video with Meren is missing its list :(
first one
so many beautiful playmats +_+
Great game! #GodSquad
Is there a way to get the decklist from the meren deck?
There’s something powerful about naming God off of morophon
I've been wanting to build a God tribal deck for so long!!! It's just expensive and taking a while to accumulate all the Gods. There's also the big question of which commander to play, because there are so many that are viable. Could go Morophon for the card draw/mana reduction, Niv-Mizzet for the free stuff, Child of Alara for one-sided nukes, Sisay for tutoring, can't decide!
15:20 Doesn't the bow of Nylea gives deathtouch to attacking creatures destroying the Ur Dragon ?
I love the blood artist kill .
Thanks man!! Gotta show them all how it's done!!
No list for the Meren deck yet?
Skyler needs to put The World Tree in this deck
he names god. Enter the GOD
Seeing as how you have a mistform ultimus deck Muddstah, are you interested in playing Morophon with a creature type shifting deck in a similar style but with 5 colors?
This was a really fun game! That door kill was definitely satisfying to watch lmao. Also, as a quick heads up, Reyhan is actually a "she"!
Ah darn it! I wasn't sure and I probably should have spent more time researching. I'll make sure to correct it in future games. Thank you for letting me know!
I really dislike when people stack their lands in commander. I want to see what lands you have and how many. Too often will somebody hide a dryad arbor or something like rogues passage amongst their basics and then 1 shot you after they’ve hidden it.
I only stack my basics. If I have other lands that aren't basics, they're out in the open when I play.
There's a rule that you have to put Dryad Arbor with your creatures, as opposed to your lands, for this very reason.
@@awesomeatm Some people like to stick their mana producing permanents together. The ones with bad intentions can hide their Sol Ring when a Vandalblast resolves.
When Dryad Arbor was in Cam's graveyard, and the ramunap excavator was on the battlefield, could he not play the Arbor? Or am I missing something here
Everytime i look for the deck i'm interested in it is the one missing from the list ahahahaha
Sick ass league mat !!
Morophon has been the biggest disappointment for me. Outside of a couple of combos (Jodah and Fist of Suns), his mana cost is too prohibitive to make him all that useful, in my experience.
Even though I never played against one, that's exactly my thoughts. Whic tribe are you even playing to begin with that you need a 7 mana cost reduction effect in your command zone?
@@hawkeye137137 Well, Morophon gets all the cost reduction, so stacking Urza's Incubator effects might bring its cost to 0 eventually.
Yeah! Ghave! All hail the thalid salad king!
ALL HAIL!! Thanks for checking out the game!!
@@awesomeatm Yeah. I assume you're the Aiden that won so congrats on that! I don't usually support infinite combos but when it's by Ghave I can't object. Good job again and all hail!
@@williamsexton1389 I am indeed the Aidan. Also glad you're okay with infinite in this instance hahaha!
I have a door to nothingness in my Golos deck. I’ve already shadow-realm’ed 3 different players with it, 2 of which were in one game
Cam could’ve decided not to blow up meren, the gear hulk targets but may blow up the creature
Awesome game!
I can count on one hand the number of times I've kicked someone through the Door to knock them out. It feels great.
Sheoldred on The battlefield is trouble
God Tribal, nice!
Gonna be honest, I've never been impressed with Ur Dragon. One of my friends has the deck and all I ever see an Ur Dragon deck do is play a bunch of tribal enchantments/anthems and then die. Scion just seems better in every way tbh.
honestly, Atarka World Render is still kind of the best dragon Commander imo.
really feels like people always bend over backwards and overcomplicate things for no reason to run Ur-Dragon.
That Buried Alive was kinda weak Imo. In my deck I buried alive for usually Genesis Eternal Witness and some big creature to get back with the E Wit
meren list?
I need a decklist of that god tribal tho
Although it didn't matter in the end, I believe the Ur-Dragon would've died by blocking Oketra due to the bowl of Nylea giving deadtouch to attacking creatures
Good catch
How would Norn have killed Aidan's board completely? if everything is ETB'ing simultaneously, wouldn't the +1 counters take effect at the same time, thus nullifying the -2/-2?
Since norn doesn't have a triggered ability, state based actions take effect once all etb effects start to resolve. ie they all enter, bunch of triggers on on the stack, pass priority, norn's effect wipes the board
@@ZyxFGC
So the rules state that even though all those creatures technically still hit the board at the same time the -2 board state effect means that they still don't hit the board to trigger the growth effect even for a second?
That's a pretty spiteful effect then.
@@ivorymantis1026 they trigger it, they just dont get the result of the trigger because the game checks the game state, sees the creatures have a toughness < 0, because of this they die before the etb finishes resolving
All of the new phyrexia praetors have super spiteful effects that, if not dealt with, usually end games.
Music a little too loud. It distracts
Aiden had the only good-looking playmat
I don't think god-eternal Oketra has indestructible and should have died to vraskas ability.
Did anyone else get a little upsetti when the zombies were wrong? They're 4/4 vigilance from Oketra
They were the only zombie tokens we had on hand.
How do experience counters and solemnity interact? Maybe someone already commented? "Players can't get counters" hmmmmm
Pretty much how you would think. Cam would keep the counters he had, but for as long as Solemnity was out, he would not be able to gain anymore.
I hate meren so much. Whenever I'm against it at the table I target it first. They never don't have it, such an obnoxious strat.
Need to know where i can buy djs playmat stat
Door the meren player. Smart.
game starts 1:03
Andrew do you have any recommendations for edh gameplay channels of a similar caliber to yours? Mainly I mean in terms of pod power level. Thanks
Hm, good question. Not sure I can really recommend a meta similar to mine as I'd say the power level ranges pretty heavily, but I consistently watch:
Game Knights
Commander Versus
Playing with Power
The Spike Feeders
The 99
Edict effects are pretty horrible to play against in high cmc tribal (demon, dragon, angle etc.) felt bad for DJ until about minute 15:00
Threat assessment
Wheres the Richard Strauss? :(
Is someone able to explain the section of the video where they show what cards each player keeps? I've never understood why they showed that. Does it mean that the rest of the cards are randomised like what's the point of that section of the video?
The cards at the beginning are our opening hands. He says 'keep' because we chose to keep the shown hands, as opposed to mulliganing and getting a new hand.
Ah ok ty. Was really confused for a while on that haha
So no one is gonna yell at the guy putting his drink on the table?
What is this Danse Macabre remix?!
Skylar is literally a god
Dat LoL mat, doh.