My favorite G. I. Joe Team Leaders are: General Joseph R. Colton (the Original G. I. Joe, who was seen in a command during DDP’s G. I. Joe: America’s Elite series). General Flagg, the team’s first Commanding Officer. then Hawk- Larry Hama gave him a James T. Kirk streak; he’ll do the right thing first, Not what the Rules & Regs say. I never bought the animated chain of command. And Larry Hama never put either Flint or Beach-Head high on the command line in the comics. Duke as ‘leader’? That’s like claiming Lady J is better looking than either Scarlett, Cover Girl, Agent Helix, Daina of the October Guard, or even the Baroness of Cobra Command.
@dinomonzon7493 OK so not a Duke fan...got it 👍 but I guess that's what makes something like the Joes great, so many characters on the rosters of both Joesnand Cobras that there is someone for everyone to latch onto and identify with :) for me it all started out with the toys, then cartoon, and finally the comics so I can appreciate the different approaches to the mythos. Case in point, even if I'm ultimately a Duke/Scarlett shipper, I can and do respect and admire the care and expertise of how Hama built up and designed the Snake Eyes Scarlett dynamic in the comics...it's one of the most unique and special relationship in 80s pop culture IMHO 👍
First off, Duke was Never the ‘Leader’ of the G. I. Joe Team- that was claimed often in the cartoons, but Larry Hama, who Co Created and Wrote the Marvel and IDW (as well as the current Skybound) G. I. Joe Comics series always stated that Duke was just ‘ the First Sergeant and not the ‘leader’’ as he clarified in the letter column of Marvel Comics’ G. I. Joe #84. In Marvel Age Magazine #20 (which came out years earlier), Larry noted in an interview that “in the regular scheme of things there’s the Commanding Officer. For the Joes, this is Hawk. Below him is an Executive Officer (never specified), and finally the First Sergeant. In G. I. Joe #33, Hawk assigns Duke as First Sergeant to field command the team after General Austin promotes Hawk, Scarlett, Stalker, Breaker, Grunt, Rock ‘n Roll, Zap and Flash one paygrade and names them as the Administrative arm of the Pit, G. I. Joe Headquarters. No thanks to the cartoon series and DDP’s first G. I. Joe Comic series, many fans (especially the impressionable ones) readily believe the myth that Duke is both ‘the Leader’ , as well as that he and Scarlett are an item. (Larry Hama would later reveal in the IDW series that Duke is a Married NCO). My favorite G. I. Joe Leader? General Joseph R. Colton, then General Flagg, the team’s first CO, then General Hawk.
Thanks for the very detailed explanation! Much appreciated. I imagine rhat the cartoon wasn't much of a stickler for real world military rankings and even if Duke technically wasn't the rank of leader, I always saw him as such in the cartoon. At the very least the field leader. And that was good enough for me :) as for being married yes I did read about that but couldn't get much info on it. Anyway it is an iteration of Duke. Just like traitor Duke in reloaded. But for me cartoon Duke is my preferred version 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf G. I. Joe Reloaded was DDP's best comic take on G. I. Joe IMHO. It was far more serious; Cobra Commander was seen as competent & credible, & the Joes were set in a more realistic world, closer to Tom Clancy's universe. No fake countries, a smaller & more realistic G. I. Joe Team & no ninja overuse/overkill.
Sad that when IDW took over everything DDP did was basically forgotten. IdW was a mixed bag. I thought they started pretty well with the highest point being the whole Cobra series....but almost everything after that was just...awful
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I liked G. I. Joe Reloaded, and America's Elite best, especially when Joe Casey wrote the latter series. It finally had General Colton in charge- loved issue #8 when he (and Stalker) put Flint in his place for overreacting to Lady J's loss via the Red Shadows. Even James Bond recovered far faster by comparison. Their take on G. I. Joe Vs. Transformers was far better than Marvel's 'official' version. And their Arashikage Showdown graphic digest was good, but could've been better minus Kamakura and Nunchuk. The first Joe series by DDP was obviously influenced by the cartoon series; if one knows where to look and what lines to read, one can spot the easter eggs from the show. And it was no help that it adapted the cartoon chain of command in G. I. Joe #26. And unlike the Marvel Comics series, it lacked the level of realism or military research Larry Hama uses in writing his tales.
Cool channel. Really digging the 80s memories. Duke was always my favorite Joe. My other favorites are Mercer, Shockwave and Altitude from the Sky Patrol team. I remember taking the screw out of the backs of some of my joes so i could take them apart and mix and match different pieces making some custom looks for my team lol.. Good times indeed.
Thank you! The 80s were full of great memories :) interesting picks for favorites! I think the year Shockwave came out was the last year I collected Joes. But I do remember Shockwave being one of my favorites from his year. Him and Blizzard :) And yeah I would mix and match Joes too....and make them into wrestlers! Thanks again for watching! And hope ya come back!
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Blizzard was cool too! As a kid, the last Joes I remember collecting was some of the Star Brigade stuff. Even had that giant Armor Bot vehicle. Man, that thing was cool. Wish I still had it. Started collecting Joes again years later as an adult. And, I'm lucky enough to still have many of my original figures. Not so much the vehicles though, unfortunately. I'll definitely check out your other videos!
@jamisonfrey3452 thanks! By the time Star Brigade came along I. Was playing with mini RCs 😅 but as an adult I got back into Joes with the 25th anniverary line. And just this year I finally got into Classified 👍 cool that you still have many of your original figs! I sold most of mine off as a kid 😔
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Duke was the Favorite of his superior because he was just agenuine American hero ... Tho my head canon is that he never woke up after the Snake Arrow but he did not got worst
@elextrano7597 well that was the plan...for him to die. Which adds to his overall importance. I mean if they had made Hawk die instead it would have had less of an impact I would think 🤔
I loved how relaxed Hawk was as a CO. He had his single star and that was enough for him. He wasn’t belligerent trying to make higher rank, nor a show off.
@darweasel184 Yes, but Flint putting Beachhead in his place in the 1st part of Arise ,Sepentor, arises is still one of my favorite moments in the cartoon.
I totally agree with what you daid about duke being charismatic in the og cartoon, and it's something I kinda feel like no other version has really lived up to. While I enjoyed the duke comic series and his more fleshed out character, I do find it hard to think of him as the same character. Thats why for me, the best version is Renegades, cause it balances out his personality and depth.
Yeah later versions of Duke were written as more no nonsense hard edged...like Resolute. Zero charisma 😅 but yes agree on the Renegades version. He was more relatable 👍
Love that Hasbro added brother to Duke. That makes Duke more interesting character. Especially his love triangle with Baroness and Destro (this is my 1st introduction to GI Joe). I even added more details to his past in fancomics.
@CollaborativeDataAccounts yes I get it was a last minute change but whether he died or not, Duke being gravely injured saving Falcon definitely made Falcon "grow up" to the actual dangers of the enemy dont ya think? It was a key moment in his character arc in the movie. 👍
@ Sure. But most people think the movie was ill-timed and not well thought out, plot-wise. Falcon was supposed to be General Hawk's son, which was more compelling to me.
@CollaborativeDataAccounts yeah it definitely has its faults but on a whole Iloveit. Even the whole Cobra La thing. I know it's very polarising but I loved it :) and yes you're right Falcon was supposed to be Hawks son hence the similar bird codenames 👍👍👍
Thank you! That's very nice of you! Some would say I don't research enough 😅 but bottom line as long as you enjoy it ill count it as a win! Hope to hear from you more!
It's amazing how very insanely long it took for some toy lines - many of which have had endless reboots and reissues - to finally make these characters' figures look like exactly as they were depicted in the adaptations. I know laser sculpting is a help, but it seemed to also be some sort of mental block to just do this simple thing.
I think we're at the point that the people currently making and designing the toys are the ones who literally grew up with them so there is an extra does of passion and love that they put into their work. It's not a knock against the OG designers, but I guess their resources were Al more limited? Who knows and like you said. Technology really does play a big part. Digital printing has really changed the game in terms of paint decos especially on faces. 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf The same things with kids shows - back in the day, you couldn't hope to count the amount of 'quest' shows that never saw a conclusion, even a 'localized' one. D&D animated, Pirates Of Dark Water, and going back to the 60's and 70's - hell, Josie and the gang are still in outer space. But once the kids who watched these became the creators, such shows now get their finales, however limited in scope they might be.
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Well, we do have the audio play of the possible finale and several good fan-comics based on the plot - they even gave Eric a break. As for Josie, in a fic, I once had them brought home at the end in a Scooby-Doo xover with Quantum Leap (the story was written like an episode of the Team-up 'Movies' from the early 70's)
@@shoresean1237 yeah I remember watching a fan made episode finale on RUclips that I figure was based off an unused script. It was rough 😅as formJosie, that sounds like one hell of an entertaining episode! 👍
GI Joe was led by Hawk, under the command of General Flagg. Hawk has always been the leader. Stalker often is in command in the field. I dislike how Duke is always pushed by Hasbro. So many Duke figures.
You're not wrong 👍 although at this point Duke is the most evergreen character the Joes have after Snake Eyes IMHO. He serves a purpose so imncool with him 👍
FWIW I've repeatedly heard that Duke was largely inspired by the cowboy actor John "The Duke" Wayne. I know John Wayne played in several war movies so that might give you an idea what they were going for. However, they wanted a slightly toned-down version when directing Duke. John Wayne is one of those actors where an impression of him can turn into an outright parody if not done well.
Ohhhhh wow! I never heard that but that makes so much sense! Crap I wish I knew that while writing this episode. But at least now I know! And you know in GI Joe thatsbhalf the battle 👍 seriously though, thanks! That gives me an even better appreciation for the character and his origin. Thank you! 👍👍👍
Hello I was just wondering at 21:43, what head do you use on that Cover Girl? That's the best mod I've seen yet since Hasbro can't sculpt a proper Cover Girl yet! She's supposed to have blonde hair and sadly, Super7 didn't produce an Ultimates yet but here is hoping they do a blonde repaint at some point.
I used the Sharon Carter head from the Marvel Legends Shield 3 pack :) she comes with two so long hair went to my CG 👍 blonde CG needs more love IMHO. Such a loss that super 7 went with the more common look for their Ultimates version...given they do the blond for the 5poa one. BTW SC head is not a perfect fit. Needed to use some tack. But it's a while lot better than the original head IMHO 👍👍👍
@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I agree 100% with you. Idk why but I've always been particular about CG myself since the blonde MASS Device. I even wrote Super7 about it so I know they know. As far as Hasbro is concerned, they have multiple hair pieces for Shipwreck, Lady Jaye, Baroness, so why not CG? They could have included an extra hair piece in that $25 overpriced pack but all they did was include a wrench and shotgun! They chinced the customers out on that figure.
@FreedomCompatriots I know! Super 7 can be SO frustrating at times :( blond cover girl rocks cuz she singlehandedly saved the joes....ok fine she had a little help from Timber 😅 also visually she stands out from Scarlett and Lady Jaye as a blonde 👍
Yeah my bad. There's a whole lot to Duke that I wasn't actually able to cover. He was chasing down Major Bludd right? Which led to him discovering that Cobra was back and led to the reformation of the Joes 👍 need to refresh myself on DDP. 😅
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Thankfully Hasbro DISAVOWED the DDP run. The opening of the fifth issue of the main title's first iteration was a riff on the film True Lies
@dinomonzon7493 I wasn't completely attached to the DDP run so it didn't really bother me that it was decanonized. But I did like bits and pieces. Like I love how they handled Cobra Commander definitively outsmarting and defeating Serpentor. And I liked new characters introduced like Firewall. Oh well. At the very least I found it entertaining 👍
Lots of arguments about rank here, but the Joe team never really put a lot of emphasis on that. After all, they are called GI Joe. A “Joe” is someone E4 and below, meaning the emphasis is on regular lower enlisted. And we see that, as all these “Joes” are running around with lazers, experimental vehicles, and robots, tech that an E4 would never even see, much less be a recognized expert with.
I think it could have used more seasons. I like how they met random future joes along their adventures. Forget about Zartan! Need a refresher on his origin there!
I beg to differ wholeheartedly. Here's why. Stalker was the very FIRST Joe recruited to the team. Stalker then recruited Snake-Eyes. Stalker and led the MOST missions out of all of the Joes. Although not a clan member, Stalker is one of the "broken lines" within the Arashikage [Shinobi] Clan. He connects the unbroken lines between Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow, and Scarlet, another non clan member, is the other broken line. Haven't you ever wondered why those four characters' names start with the letter [S]? It's because they ARE the series. Within the group, Stalker is their soul, Storm Shadow their spirit, Scarlet their salvation, and Snake their secret weapon. Or you can look at it this way. Stalker is war, Storm pestilence, Scarlet famine, Snake death. Stalker exemplifies excellence in conventional warfare, while Storm Shadow excels in unconventional tactics. Scarlet symbolizes transcending a soldier's potential, and Snake Eyes embodies the strengths of all three. All four are deadly in their fields but can easily step into the others and kick ass too. Without Stalker recruiting and vouching for Snake-Eyes and LEADING the other original Joes, there would not be a GI Joe. Regarding Stalker's lack of prestige, it's safe to say he wasn't 'marketable.' I'll let you decide what that means. He was only prominently featured once in the GI Joe Movie [1983.] and intentionally marginalized throughout every cartoon from that point forward. Yet, at the same time, prominently featured in some of the best GI Joe comic stories from Marvel. There is a reason why Larry Hama wrote Stalker as the leader; it was due to his own history as a US Army veteran. The toys and cartoons were patterned after Fred Williamson and later Carl Weathers. On a side note, it's a shame they didn't cast the late Mr. Weathers as Stalker in the reboot sequel. Stalker's action figures, especially the giant and unique versions, are some of the most sought-after in the collectors' market. If Stalker were an actual person, his 201-File would read like an actual Special Operations resume. It's not fanciful or outlandish, yet very realistic.
Wow that was a very laid out explanation and I love it 👍 I really appreciate the time you took to properly explain. I love Stalker and yes I do recognize his importance in the franchise and hate that he was basically put to the side in favor of flashier looking characters. I'm glad that he's prominently featured in the new Skybound series and I hope that will remain the case 👍 in resteospect I wish I knew about that arashikage symbol explanation when I did my video on Stalker. Oh well, there's always Scarlet 👍👍👍 thanks again and I hope to hear more from you!
Hawk’s code name is the weapon system he came with. That’s a Hawk SAM system. Spain still uses those. As for Duke, he was the first sergeant, not the leader. He was the senior-most NCO. He didn’t outrank any of the officers, but they would never act without his support for a plan. Flint technically outranks him, but if you pay attention, he always defers to his top sergeant, because a warrant officer is a former sergeant. If you pay attention, the bulk of the Joes are enlisted, not officers. That follows military organization. An infantry platoon has a single officer out of 40-50 men. A company has five out of up to 200 men. One man out of every ten is a sergeant. Duke is a Sergeant Major, but he is the First sergeant, so he outranks any other Sergeant Major. First Sergeant is a role, not a rank. He’s the sergeant the company CO asks for advice.
Cool thanks for that detailed explanation. Me not being a military guy all of this is all new to me. And it's really interesting learning all this so I really appreciate the time you take to lay it out 👍thank you! Also that bit about Hawk? Awesome I didn't know that either! Makes more sense regarding the pairing. 👍
I was a bit older so as shocking as Primes death was, ultimately I was OK. But I can imagine how it must have been for younger kids. Like how I freaked out in the movie theatre when a powerless Clark Kent was beat up by thugs in Superman 2 😅
@StoriesFromTheToyshelf it did not bother me as a kid, I had seen a lot of other films much more graphic and serious by the point of the movies release. .
not really a fan of rodimus, but at least he was better then the way they presented ultra magnus - especially in the movie "i can't deal with.... right now" over and again. Galvatron was fine. I love the nimoy and wells as galv and unicron. I was a fan of Shockwave back on cybertron being a mad scientist
You forgot another blonde hair hero from the 80s Defenders Of The Earth's Flash Gordon. I have all three of those Duke action figures by the way the 25th anniversary, that futuristic one, and the jungle one and Ricardo from that series add multiple Duke action figures.
Oh yeah! I forgot about Flash Gordon! I loved the intro song to that show :) yeah I don't know what it was but it did seem like more of a coincidence. 😅 and yes after his close brush with death, I guess Hasbro realized the importance of evergreen characters to a brand and so since then Duke has been everywhere 👍
As the roster filled out, there ended up being a ton of characters with commissioned "officer" ranks, placing them higher in the leadership hierarchy than Duke, Slaughter, and the rest of the "enlisted" leaders. It was pretty silly from a narrative perspective.
He he true nice call on the similarities. Completely unappreciated. But I guess that's what happens when you're the square. With all the cooler kids like Logan and Snake Eyes running around with blades 😂😂😂
Just found your channel. Clever picture editing. Duke is also my favorite character on the Joe team. Interestingly, I was disappointed with the Super 7 Duke and preferred the retro Classified one. Ha. Well, Have to check out a few more of your videos later.
Thanks! Glad you found it :) and glad you liked what you found. Admittedly as an action figure super 7 is definitely lacking and where the Classified shines. Truthfully I'm a fan of both :) looking forward to hearing more from you! Thanks again!
Considering Hawk is a general that makes him the commanding officer of GI Joe, Whereas Duke was the field commander and to be fair his death in the GI Joe movie what a fit the reality of a soldier of the ultimate sacrifice to save another In this case his younger brother lieutenant Falcon Who ironically outranked Duke So in a way he was saving a superior officer.
Yes regardless it was a good and selfless death. And to be honest, as much as like Duke, if the Joe movie had come out before TF I don't think his death would've been as controversial as Prime...but thats just me 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I agree on that stans because Parents would have been able to easily explain to their kids, That Duke's death is the reality most soldiers in military face. Whereas with the transformers we had already seen them get torn apart a number of times in the G1 cartoon and put back together.
Duke has and well be my number 1 favorite Joe. He was the first one from the cartoon that I hit on. The order I like the Joe are Duke Flint Lady Jaye Gung Ho Roadblock Snake Eyes Beachhead Shipwreck Letherneck Wet-Suit & Bazooka.
You've got great taste! It's Duke for me as well :) and I'm a fan of those you mentioned too...although I'd throw in Scarlett and my extremely obscure favorite Airborne 😅
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Don't get me wrong I got nothing against Scarlett I just didn't really fell her that much same with Covergirl. I am a Duke and Scarlett ship more then a Snake Eyes Scarlett path. But Scarlett I just didn't seem conneted [miss spell] with.
Also the team up of Shipwreck with Letherneck and Wet-suite you can't go wrong with those 3. Infact me and my bestfriend we also go by as Letherneck him where I am Wet-suit. We always call each other names like they did in the cartoon.
@IoriMinaseKana no worries :) in many ways I would think Lady Jaye can be a more interesting character. I like her too :) and yes completely agree Duke with Scarlett is better 👍👍👍
@IoriMinaseKana yes I love the whole marines vs seal buddy Rivalry between Leatherneck and Wet suit. Throw in Shipwreck and it's just perfect. I just watched the episode Once Upon A Joe and it was so funny!
Duke is a sanitized less tragic version of snake eyes basically. He works better for the cartoon. That is why it is cool in weather dominator they they get kidnapped together.
Yeah I really believe he was tailor made for the cartoon :) he didn't work that well in the comics. The opposite of Snake Eyes who flourished in the comics but kinda didn't do much in the cartoon.👍👍👍
9:36 Honestly I would think Duke IRL would have his own enlisted rank made up foir his station. So he can command a orgnastion of GIs US milltaery standard infantry as a cornal which is the highest rank commonly seen on the front and most common people to share Duke want for action are fighter pilots hince why a ton of US Aces never advanced beyond Cornal even though they easly could have... Although general can also do that it's just a massive risk and if you make general then your skill set is better spent behind the front managing your modern arnmies as an ezcutive.... Outside of special cases who want to transfer nby goibg to collage from any enlisted rank to experience/merit/want adjusted officer rank or the collage grade who didn';t want to be an officer because of the resonmblity you need to take on in the US milltay ti be one... In the modern the vast majority US milltary enlisted/officers stay in their lane their whole carrier... This does not mean enliosted can have higher paygrades then master sarget... GThey very much can in cluding the same pay grade as a 4 star general which is the highest rank you can get in any US miklltary branch and their is a sarget rank tomatch.... Which outside of emergencies like WW2 when the US milltary booled to an insane size and competlity fight every where on earth so iut neeed a 5 star general the highest rank in the US milltray acting as the general over the 4 star genrals.... Which when the 5 starrank is inactive the US presdent is the highest US milltary rank of commander and chief... Though you can not be active duty as per the constution you plaged algence two we you took office like all US govermnt members of anyrank...
Wow ok that was a very lengthy but highly interesting and informational comment. And it's very much appreciated :) thanks so much for your input as I learn so much more from gracious and informed viewers like you! 👍 👍👍
Hawk is the lead in my book. Neither MK or street fighter here, Killer instinct all the way. 😂Duke would have better if he wasn't constantly kidnapped by cobra. Sgt. Slaughter is still a fav, I think (just my thoughts) LeatherNeck was written just as a place holder for the Sarge because he had Gi Joe and WWF to deal with (in the 80's that had to be insane)😅. 😂😅🤣 *single tear runs down Hawk's face* "Yo Joe..*. Yo Freaking Joe!
Oh I remember Killer Instinct that was an intense game but not very popular with my friends back in the day...was there like a werewolf or something there?
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf as for KI, SaborWolf 😆 (my fav). As for Duke, Slaughter would have fought off cobra with no gun 😆 (jab jab). Great video brother!. And of course..... 🤔 Yo Freaking Joe!
@@retrojoe8290 he he yeah a remember that wolf :) I'd still pick Duke over Slaughter he he...btw just curious I know you're a fan of both but what do you consider yourself more a fan of? the Joe cartoons or comics?
Cool I'll definitely check it out! Is Cole Young still the main character though? Or maybe they'll pull off a MK Annihilation move and kill him off in the first minute like they did Johnny Cage dirty 🤔
HAWK is the leader. Stalker was 2nd in command until the knock of Hawk (aka Duke) came along for the cartoons. And Flint was way cooler than Duke. Just sayin.
I was a bit put out when the series turned over from Duke to Flint. They both had romantic interests in Scarlet and Lady Jaye, respectively. But as a blonde male born and raised in Missouri Duke was the more natural fit for me.
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Those 2007 5 pack figures were kinda trash, out of the case. Flimsy joints, already stretched out rubber O-rings. Just subpar quality compared to the 80's figures
@Busto fat chance of that happening 🤣 but yeah I believe they were originally conceived as one off releases and didn't expect it to blow up and become another full fledged toyline 👍
@ the slave girl? In my opinion they were never together. I mean once she was free...she moved on with her people. She probably ended up with the huge dude 😅
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Cobra-La are still the worst villains of GI JOE. The opening of the movie where the Joes fought Cobra at the Statue of Liberty was meant to be the final battle of the movie. Everyone who made the movie messed up big time. It made the Transformers Movie more watchable than this.
@AH-is5yg OK agree to disagree 👍 while I hate Serpentor and will not die on a hill defending Cobra La, I didn't hate it :) for me it opened up the world of G.I.Joe...or more specifically Cobra. But I can go either way with or without it 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf i read that Don Johnson who played Lt. Falcon gave the production a hard time due to his ego, fitting his character. I think the movie needed a serious rewriting and had Cobra La be separate and not be the ones behind COBRA and weren't the ones that created Serpentor.
@AH-is5yg I can imagine Don Johnson was pretty big at the time with Miami Vice. And yes. I admit like most of the animated movies of the time it was far from perfect and was extremely cheesy and dumb at points...but as a whole I still like it a lot and appreciate the story they tried to tell :) 👍👍👍
Hawk? Flint? Duke? Keel Haul? Who is your favorite G.I.Joe Leader? And why?
Hawk. Flint by a second. Duke owes me five dollar bucks.
@Dystnine not cool for a real American Hero to not pay ya back 😅
My favorite G. I. Joe Team Leaders are:
General Joseph R. Colton (the Original G. I. Joe, who was seen in a command during DDP’s G. I. Joe: America’s Elite series).
General Flagg, the team’s first Commanding Officer.
then Hawk- Larry Hama gave him a James T. Kirk streak; he’ll do the right thing first, Not what the Rules & Regs say.
I never bought the animated chain of command. And Larry Hama never put either Flint or Beach-Head high on the command line in the comics.
Duke as ‘leader’? That’s like claiming Lady J is better looking than either Scarlett, Cover Girl, Agent Helix, Daina of the October Guard, or even the Baroness of Cobra Command.
@dinomonzon7493 OK so not a Duke fan...got it 👍 but I guess that's what makes something like the Joes great, so many characters on the rosters of both Joesnand Cobras that there is someone for everyone to latch onto and identify with :) for me it all started out with the toys, then cartoon, and finally the comics so I can appreciate the different approaches to the mythos. Case in point, even if I'm ultimately a Duke/Scarlett shipper, I can and do respect and admire the care and expertise of how Hama built up and designed the Snake Eyes Scarlett dynamic in the comics...it's one of the most unique and special relationship in 80s pop culture IMHO 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf duke by a mile
First off, Duke was Never the ‘Leader’ of the G. I. Joe Team- that was claimed often in the cartoons, but Larry Hama, who Co Created and Wrote the Marvel and IDW (as well as the current Skybound) G. I. Joe Comics series always stated that Duke was just ‘ the First Sergeant and not the ‘leader’’ as he clarified in the letter column of Marvel Comics’ G. I. Joe #84.
In Marvel Age Magazine #20 (which came out years earlier), Larry noted in an interview that “in the regular scheme of things there’s the Commanding Officer. For the Joes, this is Hawk. Below him is an Executive Officer (never specified), and finally the First Sergeant.
In G. I. Joe #33, Hawk assigns Duke as First Sergeant to field command the team after General Austin promotes Hawk, Scarlett, Stalker, Breaker, Grunt, Rock ‘n Roll, Zap and Flash one paygrade and names them as the Administrative arm of the Pit, G. I. Joe Headquarters.
No thanks to the cartoon series and DDP’s first G. I. Joe Comic series, many fans (especially the impressionable ones) readily believe the myth that Duke is both ‘the Leader’ , as well as that he and Scarlett are an item. (Larry Hama would later reveal in the IDW series that Duke is a Married NCO).
My favorite G. I. Joe Leader?
General Joseph R. Colton, then General Flagg, the team’s first CO, then General Hawk.
Thanks for the very detailed explanation! Much appreciated. I imagine rhat the cartoon wasn't much of a stickler for real world military rankings and even if Duke technically wasn't the rank of leader, I always saw him as such in the cartoon. At the very least the field leader. And that was good enough for me :) as for being married yes I did read about that but couldn't get much info on it. Anyway it is an iteration of Duke. Just like traitor Duke in reloaded. But for me cartoon Duke is my preferred version 👍
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G. I. Joe Reloaded was DDP's best comic take on G. I. Joe IMHO. It was far more serious; Cobra Commander was seen as competent & credible, & the Joes were set in a more realistic world, closer to Tom Clancy's universe. No fake countries, a smaller & more realistic G. I. Joe Team & no ninja overuse/overkill.
@dinomonzon7493 yes I really enjoyed DDPs take. I liked the new characters they introduced and yes I LOVED how CC took down Serpentor himself :)
Sad that when IDW took over everything DDP did was basically forgotten. IdW was a mixed bag. I thought they started pretty well with the highest point being the whole Cobra series....but almost everything after that was just...awful
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I liked G. I. Joe Reloaded, and America's Elite best, especially when Joe Casey wrote the latter series. It finally had General Colton in charge- loved issue #8 when he (and Stalker) put Flint in his place for overreacting to Lady J's loss via the Red Shadows. Even James Bond recovered far faster by comparison.
Their take on G. I. Joe Vs. Transformers was far better than Marvel's 'official' version. And their Arashikage Showdown graphic digest was good, but could've been better minus Kamakura and Nunchuk.
The first Joe series by DDP was obviously influenced by the cartoon series; if one knows where to look and what lines to read, one can spot the easter eggs from the show. And it was no help that it adapted the cartoon chain of command in G. I. Joe #26. And unlike the Marvel Comics series, it lacked the level of realism or military research Larry Hama uses in writing his tales.
my husband’s favorite Joe was and still is Sergeant Stalker and the figure still sits on his desk and was on his desk during his military career.
That's awesome! Love that despite his real world experiences he still has that Stalker figure to tie him back to his childhood 👍👍👍
I like Flint . He seem more common Joe kind of guy . No pun intended .
OK OK...Flint is cool....but Dukenis cooler 👍👍👍 just kidding!
Cool channel. Really digging the 80s memories.
Duke was always my favorite Joe.
My other favorites are Mercer, Shockwave and Altitude from the Sky Patrol team.
I remember taking the screw out of the backs of some of my joes so i could take them apart and mix and match different pieces making some custom looks for my team lol..
Good times indeed.
Thank you! The 80s were full of great memories :) interesting picks for favorites! I think the year Shockwave came out was the last year I collected Joes. But I do remember Shockwave being one of my favorites from his year. Him and Blizzard :)
And yeah I would mix and match Joes too....and make them into wrestlers!
Thanks again for watching! And hope ya come back!
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Blizzard was cool too!
As a kid, the last Joes I remember collecting was some of the Star Brigade stuff. Even had that giant Armor Bot vehicle. Man, that thing was cool. Wish I still had it.
Started collecting Joes again years later as an adult. And, I'm lucky enough to still have many of my original figures. Not so much the vehicles though, unfortunately.
I'll definitely check out your other videos!
@jamisonfrey3452 thanks! By the time Star Brigade came along I. Was playing with mini RCs 😅 but as an adult I got back into Joes with the 25th anniverary line. And just this year I finally got into Classified 👍 cool that you still have many of your original figs! I sold most of mine off as a kid 😔
Gen. Hawk is the leader of the Joe team . Duke was in the chain of command
Yup but Duke was the man of action 😁
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Duke was the Favorite of his superior because he was just agenuine American hero ... Tho my head canon is that he never woke up after the Snake Arrow but he did not got worst
@elextrano7597 well that was the plan...for him to die. Which adds to his overall importance. I mean if they had made Hawk die instead it would have had less of an impact I would think 🤔
I loved how relaxed Hawk was as a CO. He had his single star and that was enough for him. He wasn’t belligerent trying to make higher rank, nor a show off.
@darweasel184 Yes, but Flint putting Beachhead in his place in the 1st part of Arise ,Sepentor, arises is still one of my favorite moments in the cartoon.
Roadblock and Duke appearance is modern love story))))
I totally agree with what you daid about duke being charismatic in the og cartoon, and it's something I kinda feel like no other version has really lived up to. While I enjoyed the duke comic series and his more fleshed out character, I do find it hard to think of him as the same character. Thats why for me, the best version is Renegades, cause it balances out his personality and depth.
Yeah later versions of Duke were written as more no nonsense hard edged...like Resolute. Zero charisma 😅 but yes agree on the Renegades version. He was more relatable 👍
Love that Hasbro added brother to Duke. That makes Duke more interesting character.
Especially his love triangle with Baroness and Destro (this is my 1st introduction to GI Joe).
I even added more details to his past in fancomics.
Yes Dukes brother definitely added more to his character :)
Actually, no, it doesn't, and it was a last minute change.
@CollaborativeDataAccounts yes I get it was a last minute change but whether he died or not, Duke being gravely injured saving Falcon definitely made Falcon "grow up" to the actual dangers of the enemy dont ya think? It was a key moment in his character arc in the movie. 👍
@ Sure. But most people think the movie was ill-timed and not well thought out, plot-wise. Falcon was supposed to be General Hawk's son, which was more compelling to me.
@CollaborativeDataAccounts yeah it definitely has its faults but on a whole Iloveit. Even the whole Cobra La thing. I know it's very polarising but I loved it :) and yes you're right Falcon was supposed to be Hawks son hence the similar bird codenames 👍👍👍
Amazing content!! Hats off to you. Your research is extraordinary!!
Thank you! That's very nice of you! Some would say I don't research enough 😅 but bottom line as long as you enjoy it ill count it as a win! Hope to hear from you more!
cause they had all kinds of backlash when they axed Prime
Yup exactly! Saved By Prime!
It's amazing how very insanely long it took for some toy lines - many of which have had endless reboots and reissues - to finally make these characters' figures look like exactly as they were depicted in the adaptations. I know laser sculpting is a help, but it seemed to also be some sort of mental block to just do this simple thing.
I think we're at the point that the people currently making and designing the toys are the ones who literally grew up with them so there is an extra does of passion and love that they put into their work. It's not a knock against the OG designers, but I guess their resources were Al more limited? Who knows and like you said. Technology really does play a big part. Digital printing has really changed the game in terms of paint decos especially on faces. 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf The same things with kids shows - back in the day, you couldn't hope to count the amount of 'quest' shows that never saw a conclusion, even a 'localized' one. D&D animated, Pirates Of Dark Water, and going back to the 60's and 70's - hell, Josie and the gang are still in outer space. But once the kids who watched these became the creators, such shows now get their finales, however limited in scope they might be.
@@shoresean1237 we really live in a great time for 80s property revivals! Poor Josie! And yeah I was a fan of D&D crazy how they never got home!
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Well, we do have the audio play of the possible finale and several good fan-comics based on the plot - they even gave Eric a break. As for Josie, in a fic, I once had them brought home at the end in a Scooby-Doo xover with Quantum Leap (the story was written like an episode of the Team-up 'Movies' from the early 70's)
@@shoresean1237 yeah I remember watching a fan made episode finale on RUclips that I figure was based off an unused script. It was rough 😅as formJosie, that sounds like one hell of an entertaining episode! 👍
GI Joe was led by Hawk, under the command of General Flagg.
Hawk has always been the leader. Stalker often is in command in the field.
I dislike how Duke is always pushed by Hasbro. So many Duke figures.
You're not wrong 👍 although at this point Duke is the most evergreen character the Joes have after Snake Eyes IMHO. He serves a purpose so imncool with him 👍
FWIW I've repeatedly heard that Duke was largely inspired by the cowboy actor John "The Duke" Wayne. I know John Wayne played in several war movies so that might give you an idea what they were going for. However, they wanted a slightly toned-down version when directing Duke. John Wayne is one of those actors where an impression of him can turn into an outright parody if not done well.
Ohhhhh wow! I never heard that but that makes so much sense! Crap I wish I knew that while writing this episode. But at least now I know! And you know in GI Joe thatsbhalf the battle 👍 seriously though, thanks! That gives me an even better appreciation for the character and his origin. Thank you! 👍👍👍
Hello I was just wondering at 21:43, what head do you use on that Cover Girl? That's the best mod I've seen yet since Hasbro can't sculpt a proper Cover Girl yet! She's supposed to have blonde hair and sadly, Super7 didn't produce an Ultimates yet but here is hoping they do a blonde repaint at some point.
I used the Sharon Carter head from the Marvel Legends Shield 3 pack :) she comes with two so long hair went to my CG 👍 blonde CG needs more love IMHO. Such a loss that super 7 went with the more common look for their Ultimates version...given they do the blond for the 5poa one. BTW SC head is not a perfect fit. Needed to use some tack. But it's a while lot better than the original head IMHO 👍👍👍
@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I agree 100% with you. Idk why but I've always been particular about CG myself since the blonde MASS Device. I even wrote Super7 about it so I know they know. As far as Hasbro is concerned, they have multiple hair pieces for Shipwreck, Lady Jaye, Baroness, so why not CG? They could have included an extra hair piece in that $25 overpriced pack but all they did was include a wrench and shotgun! They chinced the customers out on that figure.
@FreedomCompatriots I know! Super 7 can be SO frustrating at times :( blond cover girl rocks cuz she singlehandedly saved the joes....ok fine she had a little help from Timber 😅 also visually she stands out from Scarlett and Lady Jaye as a blonde 👍
You missed how devils due made Duke a spook when the team was disbanded
Yeah my bad. There's a whole lot to Duke that I wasn't actually able to cover. He was chasing down Major Bludd right? Which led to him discovering that Cobra was back and led to the reformation of the Joes 👍 need to refresh myself on DDP. 😅
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf
Thankfully Hasbro DISAVOWED the DDP run.
The opening of the fifth issue of the main title's first iteration was a riff on the film True Lies
@dinomonzon7493 I wasn't completely attached to the DDP run so it didn't really bother me that it was decanonized. But I did like bits and pieces. Like I love how they handled Cobra Commander definitively outsmarting and defeating Serpentor. And I liked new characters introduced like Firewall. Oh well. At the very least I found it entertaining 👍
Lots of arguments about rank here, but the Joe team never really put a lot of emphasis on that. After all, they are called GI Joe. A “Joe” is someone E4 and below, meaning the emphasis is on regular lower enlisted. And we see that, as all these “Joes” are running around with lazers, experimental vehicles, and robots, tech that an E4 would never even see, much less be a recognized expert with.
Yeah at the end of thenday it was the coolest who led, regardless of rank 😅
Renegades wss ok, it did have a GREAT Zartan 0rigen syory set. Worth the watch.
Yo Freaking Joe!
I think it could have used more seasons. I like how they met random future joes along their adventures. Forget about Zartan! Need a refresher on his origin there!
I beg to differ wholeheartedly. Here's why.
Stalker was the very FIRST Joe recruited to the team. Stalker then recruited Snake-Eyes. Stalker and led the MOST missions out of all of the Joes. Although not a clan member, Stalker is one of the "broken lines" within the Arashikage [Shinobi] Clan. He connects the unbroken lines between Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow, and Scarlet, another non clan member, is the other broken line. Haven't you ever wondered why those four characters' names start with the letter [S]? It's because they ARE the series.
Within the group, Stalker is their soul, Storm Shadow their spirit, Scarlet their salvation, and Snake their secret weapon. Or you can look at it this way. Stalker is war, Storm pestilence, Scarlet famine, Snake death.
Stalker exemplifies excellence in conventional warfare, while Storm Shadow excels in unconventional tactics. Scarlet symbolizes transcending a soldier's potential, and Snake Eyes embodies the strengths of all three. All four are deadly in their fields but can easily step into the others and kick ass too. Without Stalker recruiting and vouching for Snake-Eyes and LEADING the other original Joes, there would not be a GI Joe.
Regarding Stalker's lack of prestige, it's safe to say he wasn't 'marketable.' I'll let you decide what that means. He was only prominently featured once in the GI Joe Movie [1983.] and intentionally marginalized throughout every cartoon from that point forward. Yet, at the same time, prominently featured in some of the best GI Joe comic stories from Marvel. There is a reason why Larry Hama wrote Stalker as the leader; it was due to his own history as a US Army veteran. The toys and cartoons were patterned after Fred Williamson and later Carl Weathers. On a side note, it's a shame they didn't cast the late Mr. Weathers as Stalker in the reboot sequel.
Stalker's action figures, especially the giant and unique versions, are some of the most sought-after in the collectors' market.
If Stalker were an actual person, his 201-File would read like an actual Special Operations resume. It's not fanciful or outlandish, yet very realistic.
Wow that was a very laid out explanation and I love it 👍 I really appreciate the time you took to properly explain. I love Stalker and yes I do recognize his importance in the franchise and hate that he was basically put to the side in favor of flashier looking characters. I'm glad that he's prominently featured in the new Skybound series and I hope that will remain the case 👍 in resteospect I wish I knew about that arashikage symbol explanation when I did my video on Stalker. Oh well, there's always Scarlet 👍👍👍 thanks again and I hope to hear more from you!
Hawk’s code name is the weapon system he came with. That’s a Hawk SAM system. Spain still uses those.
As for Duke, he was the first sergeant, not the leader. He was the senior-most NCO. He didn’t outrank any of the officers, but they would never act without his support for a plan. Flint technically outranks him, but if you pay attention, he always defers to his top sergeant, because a warrant officer is a former sergeant.
If you pay attention, the bulk of the Joes are enlisted, not officers. That follows military organization. An infantry platoon has a single officer out of 40-50 men. A company has five out of up to 200 men. One man out of every ten is a sergeant. Duke is a Sergeant Major, but he is the First sergeant, so he outranks any other Sergeant Major.
First Sergeant is a role, not a rank. He’s the sergeant the company CO asks for advice.
Cool thanks for that detailed explanation. Me not being a military guy all of this is all new to me. And it's really interesting learning all this so I really appreciate the time you take to lay it out 👍thank you! Also that bit about Hawk? Awesome I didn't know that either! Makes more sense regarding the pairing. 👍
Death of Optimus was why schools started having consolers as instead of just advisors
I was a bit older so as shocking as Primes death was, ultimately I was OK. But I can imagine how it must have been for younger kids. Like how I freaked out in the movie theatre when a powerless Clark Kent was beat up by thugs in Superman 2 😅
@StoriesFromTheToyshelf it did not bother me as a kid, I had seen a lot of other films much more graphic and serious by the point of the movies release. .
@DadalorianCreates Where you a fan of thr new cast of characters? Specifically Rodimus Prime and Galvatron as the new faction leaders?
not really a fan of rodimus, but at least he was better then the way they presented ultra magnus - especially in the movie "i can't deal with.... right now" over and again.
Galvatron was fine. I love the nimoy and wells as galv and unicron.
I was a fan of Shockwave back on cybertron being a mad scientist
I think Duke was actually created by Sunbow for the cartoon.
That is a possibility? I mean that's where I saw him first :)
Duke wasn’t the first field leader for the GI Joe team, it was Stalker.
Flagg and hawk were the original leaders, Duke comes in after hawk
Stalker was squad leader when storm shadow and snake eyes were in the military before g.i. joe
Stalker was field leader in the comics when the cartoon came out they switched it to Duke for...let's be honest white washing
Wasn't Stalker a Ranger? Maybe in the comics he was the field leader initially but from my recollection from the start Hawk was the leader...
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You forgot another blonde hair hero from the 80s Defenders Of The Earth's Flash Gordon.
I have all three of those Duke action figures by the way the 25th anniversary, that futuristic one, and the jungle one and Ricardo from that series add multiple Duke action figures.
Oh yeah! I forgot about Flash Gordon! I loved the intro song to that show :) yeah I don't know what it was but it did seem like more of a coincidence. 😅 and yes after his close brush with death, I guess Hasbro realized the importance of evergreen characters to a brand and so since then Duke has been everywhere 👍
Hawk, Duke, Flint, BeachHead. Sometimes Sgt Slaughter outranked BeachHead.
Yup that's the cartoon order of command which I'm totally cool with 👍👍👍
As the roster filled out, there ended up being a ton of characters with commissioned "officer" ranks, placing them higher in the leadership hierarchy than Duke, Slaughter, and the rest of the "enlisted" leaders. It was pretty silly from a narrative perspective.
@johnstorm9314 yeah I read Hama wasn't that big a fan of Duke so I guessnhebdidntncare much about creating more and more joes that outranked him 😅
21:40 i go that one i cant wait to customise it with other stuff
It's not a perfect fit...but you can fudge it 😅
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf is slowly looking realy cool
Duke is the Cyclops of GI Joe. In charge but not the most famous. loves a red head.
He he true nice call on the similarities. Completely unappreciated. But I guess that's what happens when you're the square. With all the cooler kids like Logan and Snake Eyes running around with blades 😂😂😂
Just found your channel. Clever picture editing. Duke is also my favorite character on the Joe team. Interestingly, I was disappointed with the Super 7 Duke and preferred the retro Classified one. Ha.
Well, Have to check out a few more of your videos later.
Thanks! Glad you found it :) and glad you liked what you found. Admittedly as an action figure super 7 is definitely lacking and where the Classified shines. Truthfully I'm a fan of both :) looking forward to hearing more from you! Thanks again!
OMG: Duke is Mary Sue of 80s
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Considering Hawk is a general that makes him the commanding officer of GI Joe, Whereas Duke was the field commander and to be fair his death in the GI Joe movie what a fit the reality of a soldier of the ultimate sacrifice to save another In this case his younger brother lieutenant Falcon Who ironically outranked Duke So in a way he was saving a superior officer.
Yes regardless it was a good and selfless death. And to be honest, as much as like Duke, if the Joe movie had come out before TF I don't think his death would've been as controversial as Prime...but thats just me 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I agree on that stans because Parents would have been able to easily explain to their kids, That Duke's death is the reality most soldiers in military face.
Whereas with the transformers we had already seen them get torn apart a number of times in the G1 cartoon and put back together.
@mrheroprimes yup that and I don't think Duke the character resonated as much with younger kids as Prime did 👍
duke is pretty much guaranteed to be in the crossover transformers/g.i. joe live action movie
Yup I agree I only hope they cast the right actor. Do you have anyone in mind for Duke?
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf no, but knowing Hollywood, they will get a big name action actor like Dwayne Johnson or Channing Tatum to be Duke
@terrysyvertson9205 been there....done that 😅 if only Henry Rollins was younger. Or I like that dude from Jack reacher
They could just make that character John Cena played in the first bumblebee movie Duke 🙂codename: DUKE
@@scifiguy26 actually….I don’t hate that…..
Duke has and well be my number 1 favorite Joe. He was the first one from the cartoon that I hit on. The order I like the Joe are Duke Flint Lady Jaye Gung Ho Roadblock Snake Eyes Beachhead Shipwreck Letherneck Wet-Suit & Bazooka.
You've got great taste! It's Duke for me as well :) and I'm a fan of those you mentioned too...although I'd throw in Scarlett and my extremely obscure favorite Airborne 😅
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Don't get me wrong I got nothing against Scarlett I just didn't really fell her that much same with Covergirl. I am a Duke and Scarlett ship more then a Snake Eyes Scarlett path. But Scarlett I just didn't seem conneted [miss spell] with.
Also the team up of Shipwreck with Letherneck and Wet-suite you can't go wrong with those 3. Infact me and my bestfriend we also go by as Letherneck him where I am Wet-suit. We always call each other names like they did in the cartoon.
@IoriMinaseKana no worries :) in many ways I would think Lady Jaye can be a more interesting character. I like her too :) and yes completely agree Duke with Scarlett is better 👍👍👍
@IoriMinaseKana yes I love the whole marines vs seal buddy Rivalry between Leatherneck and Wet suit. Throw in Shipwreck and it's just perfect. I just watched the episode Once Upon A Joe and it was so funny!
Duke is a sanitized less tragic version of snake eyes basically. He works better for the cartoon. That is why it is cool in weather dominator they they get kidnapped together.
Yeah I really believe he was tailor made for the cartoon :) he didn't work that well in the comics. The opposite of Snake Eyes who flourished in the comics but kinda didn't do much in the cartoon.👍👍👍
Got 2 dukes when i was a kid one was broken beyond recognition and the other was fine but lost alll accessories
I ended up getting the reissued o ring that came with Cobra Commander :)
9:36 Honestly I would think Duke IRL would have his own enlisted rank made up foir his station. So he can command a orgnastion of GIs US milltaery standard infantry as a cornal which is the highest rank commonly seen on the front and most common people to share Duke want for action are fighter pilots hince why a ton of US Aces never advanced beyond Cornal even though they easly could have... Although general can also do that it's just a massive risk and if you make general then your skill set is better spent behind the front managing your modern arnmies as an ezcutive.... Outside of special cases who want to transfer nby goibg to collage from any enlisted rank to experience/merit/want adjusted officer rank or the collage grade who didn';t want to be an officer because of the resonmblity you need to take on in the US milltay ti be one... In the modern the vast majority US milltary enlisted/officers stay in their lane their whole carrier... This does not mean enliosted can have higher paygrades then master sarget... GThey very much can in cluding the same pay grade as a 4 star general which is the highest rank you can get in any US miklltary branch and their is a sarget rank tomatch.... Which outside of emergencies like WW2 when the US milltary booled to an insane size and competlity fight every where on earth so iut neeed a 5 star general the highest rank in the US milltray acting as the general over the 4 star genrals.... Which when the 5 starrank is inactive the US presdent is the highest US milltary rank of commander and chief... Though you can not be active duty as per the constution you plaged algence two we you took office like all US govermnt members of anyrank...
Wow ok that was a very lengthy but highly interesting and informational comment. And it's very much appreciated :) thanks so much for your input as I learn so much more from gracious and informed viewers like you! 👍 👍👍
Hawk is the lead in my book. Neither MK or street fighter here, Killer instinct all the way. 😂Duke would have better if he wasn't constantly kidnapped by cobra. Sgt. Slaughter is still a fav, I think (just my thoughts) LeatherNeck was written just as a place holder for the Sarge because he had Gi Joe and WWF to deal with (in the 80's that had to be insane)😅. 😂😅🤣 *single tear runs down Hawk's face* "Yo Joe..*.
Yo Freaking Joe!
Oh that would explain why a o ring Leatherneck is included along with Sarge in the TF Joe crossover toy of Kup that transforms into the Triple T 👍
As for Duke...it's not hie many times you get kidnapped...it's how you escape. And him naturally charming that girl to help him out was classic 😅
Oh I remember Killer Instinct that was an intense game but not very popular with my friends back in the day...was there like a werewolf or something there?
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf as for KI, SaborWolf 😆 (my fav).
As for Duke, Slaughter would have fought off cobra with no gun 😆 (jab jab). Great video brother!. And of course..... 🤔
Yo Freaking Joe!
@@retrojoe8290 he he yeah a remember that wolf :) I'd still pick Duke over Slaughter he he...btw just curious I know you're a fan of both but what do you consider yourself more a fan of? the Joe cartoons or comics?
Hey Stories from the toyshelf guy!
The sequel to 2021 Mortal Kombat movie is coming out in 2025
Cool I'll definitely check it out! Is Cole Young still the main character though? Or maybe they'll pull off a MK Annihilation move and kill him off in the first minute like they did Johnny Cage dirty 🤔
HAWK is the leader. Stalker was 2nd in command until the knock of Hawk (aka Duke) came along for the cartoons. And Flint was way cooler than Duke. Just sayin.
Agree to disagree 😅
I was a bit put out when the series turned over from Duke to Flint. They both had romantic interests in Scarlet and Lady Jaye, respectively. But as a blonde male born and raised in Missouri Duke was the more natural fit for me.
@darweasel184 ha ha yeah Duke is leader for me even if I'm black haired like Flint 😅 no issues with Flint though....Duke is just better IMHO 👍
Stalker was the leader right behind Hawk, until that blonde dummy Duke. Flint was a better leader than Duke also.
Agree to disagree....Duke rocks 👍
Duke > Snake Eyes
Yes he is. Yes he is 👍👍👍
Did I say this is the first I've heard of them dieing lol. I'm done for the night. This stuff destroying my child hood 😂😅.
Awww Duke didn't die..
He just slipped into a coma 😅
@StoriesFromTheToyshelf 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 I'm traumatized. I want to cry like i did when the transformers died. Lol
@roberthall843 man that movie was harsh! Love it but our G1 heroes deserved better 👍
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Those 2007 5 pack figures were kinda trash, out of the case. Flimsy joints, already stretched out rubber O-rings. Just subpar quality compared to the 80's figures
Yeah a lot of the initial 25th Anniversary joes don't hold up. But when they came out, I remember them being quite a big deal 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf I don't think they expected us to ever actually take them out of the cases
@Busto fat chance of that happening 🤣 but yeah I believe they were originally conceived as one off releases and didn't expect it to blow up and become another full fledged toyline 👍
I enjoyed the video, but damn man. The editing feels like it's got ADHD.
Fair. Admittedly it's not to everyone's taste. But thanks for watching and I'm glad you enjoyed it! 👍👍👍
Seriously, was Duke into polyamory? GI Joe was pro-polyamory???? I need answer why they made Duke into 2 girls.
Sorry when did this happen? Do you mean Duke was with 2 girls? In the first mini series?
@ yes. Scarlett and slave girl.
@ ah yeah well the slave girl did crush hard on Duke but I don’t think he reciprocated in the same way...either way she was never seen again after.
@ I want to know why they broke up. She looks like she’s into Duke very much.
@ the slave girl? In my opinion they were never together. I mean once she was free...she moved on with her people. She probably ended up with the huge dude 😅
Flint and Grid Iron are my top joe leaders
I was out on Joes when the Grid Iron was the lead, but from the outside looking in, I thought he looked cool 👍
"Snake Eyes" was a terrible movie
Oh yes it was. Talk about completely NOT understanding a character 😅
The G.I Joe Retaliation sucked!!!!
I would argue it was decent...just terribly edited...but yeah far from good 😅
Blonde hair, Blue eyes. Too white .
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Gi Joe animated 1987 movie wasn't a good movie anyway.
Awwww not a fan of Cobra la la la la la! 😅 oh well to each his own 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf Cobra-La are still the worst villains of GI JOE.
The opening of the movie where the Joes fought Cobra at the Statue of Liberty was meant to be the final battle of the movie. Everyone who made the movie messed up big time. It made the Transformers Movie more watchable than this.
@AH-is5yg OK agree to disagree 👍 while I hate Serpentor and will not die on a hill defending Cobra La, I didn't hate it :) for me it opened up the world of G.I.Joe...or more specifically Cobra. But I can go either way with or without it 👍
@@StoriesFromTheToyshelf i read that Don Johnson who played Lt. Falcon gave the production a hard time due to his ego, fitting his character. I think the movie needed a serious rewriting and had Cobra La be separate and not be the ones behind COBRA and weren't the ones that created Serpentor.
@AH-is5yg I can imagine Don Johnson was pretty big at the time with Miami Vice. And yes. I admit like most of the animated movies of the time it was far from perfect and was extremely cheesy and dumb at points...but as a whole I still like it a lot and appreciate the story they tried to tell :) 👍👍👍
DUKELETTE 😂
FOR THE WIN! 👍👍👍