For someone who says Karate doesnt work because its point sparring, Point Sparring can be useful in street fights. Because Point Sparring not only teaches you how to be quick, but also how to maintain your distance and when to attack, you can also control the force of your attack whether its hard contact or light.
I disagree….yes you are right about being fast you have to be fast in a street fight either to run away or to react to attacks but again point sparring isn’t useful in a street fight because in a street fight you want the fight to be over as quickly as possible so you have to bring in a strong hits and semi-contact hits aren’t gonna do anything…..ultimately there are no points in a street fight.
@@bhaskarjoshi3067 it is not the art itself that its not useless but the artist. It depends on the artists. For example, if the artist knows how to control his contact whether hard or light, when he does hard sparring and light sparring or point sparring, I think it would work in a street fight. But the best option is to run away, only fight when you have no choice. But since the topic here is point sparring, it just leaves the guy of how he will make it work, it would be better if they had a hard sparring session. But also, Karate is not just an art of sport, but also for self defense
@@youngchristianboy yes I agree….all martial arts are useful and useless at the same time in a street fight….if a person can implement karate into a street fight thats great and if a person can’t implement karate into a street fight then its useless….take Boxing for example in a street fight if you go ahead and start punching like a boxer and hit the other guy in the forehead you’ll break your hands without gloves but if you can make some changes to make it more useful like instead of punching at the face you punch the person in his solar plexus or his throat and instead of making a fist and throwing jabs you can open your hands and start scratching his eyes out….or just push the guy away….the street isn’t a ring.
@@youngchristianboy oh no. It's very much about the art too not just the artist. Your karate might be effective against an untrained person but against someone who has trained and sparred well it's next to useless. All that leaping in and out is literally begging for a counter for an experienced person. Sorry to break your bubble but shotokan has it's limits. Not saying it doesn't have some good techniques but it won't do well against a well trained seasoned fighter
@@huskaroar6869 Karate is just about a sport, but it has some self defence techniques. The techniques in sparring are different from the techniques in street fight. There are some moves that are deadly, and if you apply it on your sparring, you'll get kicked out. But when talking about combat, it depends on the artist if they teach them some effective techniques. We can look at Rafael Aghayev, he is a Kumite Champion in Sport Karate which is light contact. But he also join in Karate Combat which is full contact. The stances are similar but the style is no different. It depends on the artist if they have good control or not. If they sparr in full contact most of time or not. At the end of the day, you can either fight or not
I like when ppl say karate doesn't work lol shotokan is a very rigid style but when u get to brown n black.. even purple belt u start flowing..its a really good overall style imo
just dont care what people say, u train hard, prepare ur mind and body well. When get into the fight execute them fast. That's it. it's not about the style, but disciple themselves.
Yeah but it looks so unrealistic... ad the one that hits first gets the point, people hesitate to move towards each other, this looks like fencing hahaha. In full contact, people usually will walk up to each other's kicking range and start throwing stuff, which is kind of what would happen in a real fight.
@@dakentaijutsu2010 cool, and also weird because the only Kempo Karate dojo that i have went into, didn't have point sparring haha. Anyways, point fighting can give you an advantage over untrained people, but when you fight a Muay Thai person (or any other style with full contact) you will not know what to do against them
As a Shotokan and Kickboxing praticioner i can say that Kickboxing and Full contact is just the evolution of Kumite sparring. When Karate, as a combat sport, was made, it was in a time that Japan just losted the World War 2, the Japanese was terrified by nuclear bombs and all the horror from the war and everthing related to war wasn't well seen by the japanese people. So the karate masters had the challenge to make Karate popular in Japan but show that Karate is not violent, but a beatifull art that can teach nice values to the japanese citizens. So they create a rule, based in Judo, that can be competitive and safe at the same time, focused on clean techniques, for regular people (not really fighters or athletes) of any age and body type could pratice, so they reach the sucess and Karate was soon being trained in the Japanese universities. So, Karate as a sport was fast spread to the world, and soon, the Karate wave hit the west. But the westerns wanted something even more competitive, so they adapted Karate to boxing rule system and created what was first knowed as "Full Contact Karate" and with the time become a different sport called Kickboxing. So Full contact Kickboxing is basically a hardcore western version of Karate. Nowdays it is what Karate Combat actually represents.
@@TiagoPortas Nice explanation. It's quite interesting how this "non-violent-art-with-nice-values" narrative was copied by basically every martial art in the West when they tried to promote themselves, specially in educational milieus. As for kickboxing, when I practiced it nobody told me it was inspired in karate. Maybe the sport evolved into a very different direction, because the techniques look so different now. Not to mention that karate looks more complete in terms of techniques used.
been seein to many comments. let’s be honest. shotokan would dominate ANY “street” fighter. last thing a street fighter is gonna expect is eating a leg kick or eating your foot to the mouth.
I agree karate in street fight can be very usefull. My friend from same karate school beat around 10 people on street i beat around 25-30 i got arested because it was day time and i was fighting them next to police station and i brake guy cheak bone with one hit . Also around 15 years ago guy for new year was atacked by few guys for new yer in club he reject to fight and he leave club to go home he was karatist so that guys thought he is chiken so they leave club folowing him and atacking him again on the street he hit one of them with fist once and kill him on spot and he got jail time for killing person even if it was selfdefence . But again there is many not just karatists many martial artists who do katas earn black belt but in real fight they are afraid or confused and mostly end bad for them that is just from person to person. For example when i was training judo in 1 schoool and real aikido in another teachers or sensei of that scool was surprised how fast i get it all and i constantly have question did i ever trained something my respond was no . To explain why if i say that i am ower 30 years karatist there will be people who will challenge me that could be bad for them and i can be kicked out of the school. So it is better to pretend that is your first time and you are just good in it my advice for mixed martial artists to avoid unesesery class hate . Have good relationship in martial art school and give your best to learn.
Hello, I studied when I was a 7 yeard old the Shotokan Style, rigid, but liquid in constant movement, to make way clean and fast you have to know when you can make your arms hard as rock or noodles, it's a defensive art, but doesn't imply that you have to stay freeze like some people I saw, I know karate is not the best for defense mimimimi, always there's gonna be a better choice on a combat and ofc that depends on the situation, person, environment and a HELL of conditions, just practice the basics ALL time, I prefer to practice a classic Oi zuki or the morote, those are the most basic things and it gonna make you study how your body reacts and flow
I'll prolly start Shotokan Karate in a bit, I can't say I'm not excited. My first martial art. I chose it over Muay Thai out of pure curiosity of how it actually is, because I always underestimated it, mainly for it's "spiritual" nature. Thought it wouldn't be that good. Though I think this video changed my mind. That and what my sister, who took classes, told me lol.
Have you tried out shotokan yet? Im trying mma because in the dojo near me, I noticed it seemed to have more younger kids and elderly people (in that dojo at least) mma class had people who were in better shape and closer to my age. I do recognize a guy from the dojo who comes in occasionally to train though.
@@altitudeadjustment259 I had my second class already. It's fun, I like it. There's a bunch of kids, though, just like you said too, but some of them are pretty skilled. I honestly wasn't sure the first day, but, while I destroyed my body in the process, the second day was fun and for some reason I felt more optimistic than before. But since I normally don't train or do anything at all, I came out of there exhausted. Now my legs and arms hurt like hell lol.
1:12 No disrespect to the guy who got kicked in the face, but the way he blocks is the same thing my sensei teaches how NOT to block, because its to weak to actually block stuff
A similar critique exists for almost any other style including wrestling. Karate has a decent spotlight in the UFC, not as much as the bread and butter styles of course, but it seems to have its perks.
@@leonimatics1955 I agree with that and it doesn't contradict what I said. If you had to pick one, wrestling would usually dominate, but it doesn't mean the other styles should be completely dismissed
@Senpai chris🥶 nah not even half of him i am only 4/10th of him ... I don't know about height though I'm 5'10 and if you are judging me on the basis of my profile photo ... Sorry my friend it's very old one ♥️♥️♥️♥️ Anyways thank you for your reply
A lot of the time, the belts in competition do not denote rank, they are so the judges can differentiate between fighters. In some organisations, opponents wear red or blue belts, in others one wears white, one red, in others again people do wear their rank belts but one has a red ribbon tied round the back.
Contests are limited in many ways as Karate practicioner 34 years i dislike this contest highlights . Shotokan style have more better hits and kicks also trows like in judo this contest is based on few basic hits which i disgree to be highlights.
Nonsense. It‘s the way you train, Kyokushin has almost identical techniques to shotokan. They just spar harder. But all styles work if you train correctly
Not even close to Taekwondo. Low kicks. Low stances. Catching the leg. No spin kicks. No sparring gear. This may not be Shotokan (idk, I do Taekwondo) but this is definitely karate.
I think karate is good but Only for the lighter weights . The heavy guys Arnt as quick and bouncing around like that will eat the cardio pretty fast no matter your fitness level . I Allso don’t like how after one hit the rounds over ... could U imagine boxing like this ? One punch and OHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Round over . Liek seriously how u gonna be ready for a fight ?
Heavy weights are pretty fine too. They bounce around well as well. Stamina and flexibility are key. Heavy weights can have a lot of flexibility too. I used to be a dan 1 black belt and participated in medium / heavy section of the tournaments. The round is over when u get a point. Any where in the chest is a full point. I guess remembering punching on the head would disqualify us.
The referees are not stopping because the match is over.. They are Stoping them to give points there are a total 5 rounds with 1 minute each the match can get over if any player gets ippon!!
Well they stop the fight like that only in competition I think sparring in your dojo is far more intense like we can go for intense sparing for like 40min non stop we just change opponent and I can tell you its not fun when you're against someone two times your size 😅
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For someone who says Karate doesnt work because its point sparring, Point Sparring can be useful in street fights. Because Point Sparring not only teaches you how to be quick, but also how to maintain your distance and when to attack, you can also control the force of your attack whether its hard contact or light.
I disagree….yes you are right about being fast you have to be fast in a street fight either to run away or to react to attacks but again point sparring isn’t useful in a street fight because in a street fight you want the fight to be over as quickly as possible so you have to bring in a strong hits and semi-contact hits aren’t gonna do anything…..ultimately there are no points in a street fight.
@@bhaskarjoshi3067 it is not the art itself that its not useless but the artist. It depends on the artists. For example, if the artist knows how to control his contact whether hard or light, when he does hard sparring and light sparring or point sparring, I think it would work in a street fight. But the best option is to run away, only fight when you have no choice.
But since the topic here is point sparring, it just leaves the guy of how he will make it work, it would be better if they had a hard sparring session. But also, Karate is not just an art of sport, but also for self defense
@@youngchristianboy yes I agree….all martial arts are useful and useless at the same time in a street fight….if a person can implement karate into a street fight thats great and if a person can’t implement karate into a street fight then its useless….take Boxing for example in a street fight if you go ahead and start punching like a boxer and hit the other guy in the forehead you’ll break your hands without gloves but if you can make some changes to make it more useful like instead of punching at the face you punch the person in his solar plexus or his throat and instead of making a fist and throwing jabs you can open your hands and start scratching his eyes out….or just push the guy away….the street isn’t a ring.
@@youngchristianboy oh no. It's very much about the art too not just the artist. Your karate might be effective against an untrained person but against someone who has trained and sparred well it's next to useless. All that leaping in and out is literally begging for a counter for an experienced person. Sorry to break your bubble but shotokan has it's limits. Not saying it doesn't have some good techniques but it won't do well against a well trained seasoned fighter
@@huskaroar6869 Karate is just about a sport, but it has some self defence techniques. The techniques in sparring are different from the techniques in street fight. There are some moves that are deadly, and if you apply it on your sparring, you'll get kicked out.
But when talking about combat, it depends on the artist if they teach them some effective techniques. We can look at Rafael Aghayev, he is a Kumite Champion in Sport Karate which is light contact. But he also join in Karate Combat which is full contact. The stances are similar but the style is no different.
It depends on the artist if they have good control or not. If they sparr in full contact most of time or not. At the end of the day, you can either fight or not
I like when ppl say karate doesn't work lol shotokan is a very rigid style but when u get to brown n black.. even purple belt u start flowing..its a really good overall style imo
just dont care what people say, u train hard, prepare ur mind and body well. When get into the fight execute them fast. That's it. it's not about the style, but disciple themselves.
I don't understand, why aren't any of them wearing helmets or mouthguards??
@@orangefield2308 I’m 12 and my dad is putting me into karate this will be the style I use
@@orangefield2308 do you see any mouthguards or helmets in street fights?
@@steve00alt70 I don't see anyone wearing Karate ji either in street fights, or walking barefoot
As someone who prefers full contact Kumite, I think point sparring really has it's moments!
Yeah but it looks so unrealistic... ad the one that hits first gets the point, people hesitate to move towards each other, this looks like fencing hahaha. In full contact, people usually will walk up to each other's kicking range and start throwing stuff, which is kind of what would happen in a real fight.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Right, I use to do point sparring (kempo karate) myself before I went to Full contact (Kyokushin)
@@dakentaijutsu2010 cool, and also weird because the only Kempo Karate dojo that i have went into, didn't have point sparring haha.
Anyways, point fighting can give you an advantage over untrained people, but when you fight a Muay Thai person (or any other style with full contact) you will not know what to do against them
As a Shotokan and Kickboxing praticioner i can say that Kickboxing and Full contact is just the evolution of Kumite sparring. When Karate, as a combat sport, was made, it was in a time that Japan just losted the World War 2, the Japanese was terrified by nuclear bombs and all the horror from the war and everthing related to war wasn't well seen by the japanese people. So the karate masters had the challenge to make Karate popular in Japan but show that Karate is not violent, but a beatifull art that can teach nice values to the japanese citizens. So they create a rule, based in Judo, that can be competitive and safe at the same time, focused on clean techniques, for regular people (not really fighters or athletes) of any age and body type could pratice, so they reach the sucess and Karate was soon being trained in the Japanese universities. So, Karate as a sport was fast spread to the world, and soon, the Karate wave hit the west. But the westerns wanted something even more competitive, so they adapted Karate to boxing rule system and created what was first knowed as "Full Contact Karate" and with the time become a different sport called Kickboxing. So Full contact Kickboxing is basically a hardcore western version of Karate. Nowdays it is what Karate Combat actually represents.
@@TiagoPortas Nice explanation. It's quite interesting how this "non-violent-art-with-nice-values" narrative was copied by basically every martial art in the West when they tried to promote themselves, specially in educational milieus.
As for kickboxing, when I practiced it nobody told me it was inspired in karate. Maybe the sport evolved into a very different direction, because the techniques look so different now. Not to mention that karate looks more complete in terms of techniques used.
0:22 sweep the leg 💀
To think all these students were all trained by Sub-Zero.
Underrated comment 😂
You mean Ken and Ryu (they are based on Shotokan karate), Sub-Zero is Chinese.
More likely Hanzo Hasashi
@@daneoman1000 Sub-Zero officially uses Shotokan in some games (Deception, Armageddon) that's why he made that joke
@@daneoman1000actually Ryu and Ken's fighting style is more based on Kyokushin than Shotokan!
been seein to many comments. let’s be honest. shotokan would dominate ANY “street” fighter. last thing a street fighter is gonna expect is eating a leg kick or eating your foot to the mouth.
I agree karate in street fight can be very usefull. My friend from same karate school beat around 10 people on street i beat around 25-30 i got arested because it was day time and i was fighting them next to police station and i brake guy cheak bone with one hit . Also around 15 years ago guy for new year was atacked by few guys for new yer in club he reject to fight and he leave club to go home he was karatist so that guys thought he is chiken so they leave club folowing him and atacking him again on the street he hit one of them with fist once and kill him on spot and he got jail time for killing person even if it was selfdefence . But again there is many not just karatists many martial artists who do katas earn black belt but in real fight they are afraid or confused and mostly end bad for them that is just from person to person. For example when i was training judo in 1 schoool and real aikido in another teachers or sensei of that scool was surprised how fast i get it all and i constantly have question did i ever trained something my respond was no . To explain why if i say that i am ower 30 years karatist there will be people who will challenge me that could be bad for them and i can be kicked out of the school. So it is better to pretend that is your first time and you are just good in it my advice for mixed martial artists to avoid unesesery class hate . Have good relationship in martial art school and give your best to learn.
@@Walsariondidn’t happen did it?
they really love the low kicks
I'm starting to think that Shotokan translates to head kick.
“Barley brushes the nose hair of opponent” *SCREAM IN DELIGHT LIKE THEY ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING*
Kyokushin karate: What's up boy.... Daddy's here
just blindly throwing punches and kicks
Kyokushin lacks technicality
Hello, I studied when I was a 7 yeard old the Shotokan Style, rigid, but liquid in constant movement, to make way clean and fast you have to know when you can make your arms hard as rock or noodles, it's a defensive art, but doesn't imply that you have to stay freeze like some people I saw, I know karate is not the best for defense mimimimi, always there's gonna be a better choice on a combat and ofc that depends on the situation, person, environment and a HELL of conditions, just practice the basics ALL time, I prefer to practice a classic Oi zuki or the morote, those are the most basic things and it gonna make you study how your body reacts and flow
I'll prolly start Shotokan Karate in a bit, I can't say I'm not excited.
My first martial art. I chose it over Muay Thai out of pure curiosity of how it actually is, because I always underestimated it, mainly for it's "spiritual" nature. Thought it wouldn't be that good. Though I think this video changed my mind. That and what my sister, who took classes, told me lol.
Have you tried out shotokan yet? Im trying mma because in the dojo near me, I noticed it seemed to have more younger kids and elderly people (in that dojo at least) mma class had people who were in better shape and closer to my age. I do recognize a guy from the dojo who comes in occasionally to train though.
@@altitudeadjustment259 I had my second class already. It's fun, I like it. There's a bunch of kids, though, just like you said too, but some of them are pretty skilled.
I honestly wasn't sure the first day, but, while I destroyed my body in the process, the second day was fun and for some reason I felt more optimistic than before. But since I normally don't train or do anything at all, I came out of there exhausted. Now my legs and arms hurt like hell lol.
Lyoto Machida and Sub-Zero
That last one was wild as hell
Damn that first kick looked brutal lol.
1:12 No disrespect to the guy who got kicked in the face, but the way he blocks is the same thing my sensei teaches how NOT to block, because its to weak to actually block stuff
I agree, you won’t block a whole kick with just a hand sweep
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Best Kicks i have ever seen
Amazing
Could not see the belts, but the sparring looked real enough.
The art of sticking toes in ones eyes
Better hope the other guy trims his toenails
After watching this I went and bought tampons for myself
What's the name of this kumite?? It looks realistic then the national and Olympic ones
I am in shotokan karate
No foot protections ? Where is this competition ? All countries ? I'm french. Thanks
I remember when my Sensei told me at a Kumite to shortly fake the attack, then hit the opponent. It worked, but I got disqualified 😅
The stop and start would piss me off
EWGF then wavedash to a hell sweep.
1:11
One wrestling sprawl and their world ends
If the wrestler can catch them lol
A similar critique exists for almost any other style including wrestling. Karate has a decent spotlight in the UFC, not as much as the bread and butter styles of course, but it seems to have its perks.
You're not wrong but that can be said in any submission or wrestling rule: one strike and their world ends.
@@MaxLohMusic wrestling is half of MMA.
@@leonimatics1955 I agree with that and it doesn't contradict what I said. If you had to pick one, wrestling would usually dominate, but it doesn't mean the other styles should be completely dismissed
where’s Dorya?
I'm brazilian
Literally not a single person gives a fuck
Good for you.
ok
Who asked?
@@blakespier2777 I'm salty
Lol it's stopped after every hit 😂
People who think they can fight, but can't. Priceless.
You know they'd make a joke out of you in a fight right?
@@K1nfluence 🤣 I have many Muay Thai fights. Search for "Sanda NM 2022" and see how my friends beat up the best Karate guys with ease.
The only way karate works, is if the other guy knows the shit too
Where’s the hadoukens
Shoryuken missing too
Sorry, this is NOT real Karate fighting, like the 60's and 70's! It is entertainment, Not fighting!
Do u train sir?
This is a fvcken disgrace to shotokan karate... I fvken wish i can go back and fight
00:35 if he can learn karate I can too though I'm in a perfect shape too 😂😂
@Senpai chris🥶 nah not even half of him i am only 4/10th of him ... I don't know about height though I'm 5'10 and if you are judging me on the basis of my profile photo ... Sorry my friend it's very old one ♥️♥️♥️♥️
Anyways thank you for your reply
Why are white belts sparring black belts?
A lot of the time, the belts in competition do not denote rank, they are so the judges can differentiate between fighters. In some organisations, opponents wear red or blue belts, in others one wears white, one red, in others again people do wear their rank belts but one has a red ribbon tied round the back.
Contests are limited in many ways as Karate practicioner 34 years i dislike this contest highlights . Shotokan style have more better hits and kicks also trows like in judo this contest is based on few basic hits which i disgree to be highlights.
i cant say how much of a joke style this is compared to kudo and kyokushin
Nonsense. It‘s the way you train, Kyokushin has almost identical techniques to shotokan. They just spar harder. But all styles work if you train correctly
Mejor patada. Es de caballo
This isn't karate! This is taekwondo! Afraid to get hit? Look at some streetfighter scenes..it clearly shows what shoto is.
I still practice shoto at 53 of age
Not even close to Taekwondo.
Low kicks.
Low stances.
Catching the leg.
No spin kicks.
No sparring gear.
This may not be Shotokan (idk, I do Taekwondo) but this is definitely karate.
El karate si sirve pero por los estúpidos reglamentos de los comités le quitaron lo que si sirve
I think karate is good but Only for the lighter weights . The heavy guys Arnt as quick and bouncing around like that will eat the cardio pretty fast no matter your fitness level . I Allso don’t like how after one hit the rounds over ... could U imagine boxing like this ? One punch and OHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Round over . Liek seriously how u gonna be ready for a fight ?
Heavy weights are pretty fine too. They bounce around well as well. Stamina and flexibility are key. Heavy weights can have a lot of flexibility too. I used to be a dan 1 black belt and participated in medium / heavy section of the tournaments. The round is over when u get a point. Any where in the chest is a full point. I guess remembering punching on the head would disqualify us.
imagine if in karate if you got hit you could just clinch the guy to take a break or stop their momentum lol every sport has its pros and cons
The referees are not stopping because the match is over.. They are Stoping them to give points there are a total 5 rounds with 1 minute each the match can get over if any player gets ippon!!
Why r u made of stupid?
Well they stop the fight like that only in competition I think sparring in your dojo is far more intense like we can go for intense sparing for like 40min non stop we just change opponent and I can tell you its not fun when you're against someone two times your size 😅
Bad example for what youre preaching, shotokan karate can never be used for actual combat regardless of gender or size.
Not one warrior in there
So they can only take one blow good luck fighting anyone else LoL
kyo is the best
shotokan is gay
Karate is so weak...
You can try. if you want
@@Watachannel9638 I see, u mtfk is in Indonesia. you weak mtfk want to wake up THE HELL.
AT LEAST THE OLD BASTARD'S FACE IS REVEAL 😈
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Say that to a Kyokushin practitioner, I'm sure they would love to show how...weak Karate really is!
This is point sparring dumbass ofc there isn’t any major contact 🎃
Look for a traditional shotokan dojo then \_(ッ)_/
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Could not see the belts, but the sparring looked real enough.