Watch This BEFORE You Buy A Supermoto
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Hopefully this helps you make your choice before you get into the supermoto world MotoJitsu.com
The beauty of the dirt bike style framed motorcycles. You can buy a separate set of rims/wheels/tires/sprockets/chain/rimlocks. Then you can swap out street supermoto wheels and sprocket setup without rimlocks with its taller gearing for streets and then sticking on the full Enduro knobby tire setup with rimlocks and lower gearing setup for performing best in lower gearing where its needed and you spend just about all your time under 40 mph in the dirt. This is A LOT cheaper than buying two separate bikes and a lot less of compromise of a heavy adventure bike and adventure tires that give up being great on either street or off road to be somewhat OK on both surfaces.
Best of both worlds? Nah they are worst of both worlds. I'd rather have a cheaper dirt bike
@@Naptownstreetsquidwhy’s that? Genuine question. It is just because of having to change parts over? Suerly the bikes just as capable off-road with knobleys and sprocket set? Or is it because it’s a 701 that it’s too big of cc for enduro?
@@WezleyBrown imagine if you had a hammer that was also a screwdriver. It would hammer nails and turn screws but it would kinda suck at both. Wether it's engines, suspension, frames, or chassis geometry a bike must make compromises. A bike is like a tool built for a purpose, if it's purpose is too broad it won't do anything particularly well.
Thanks any links to these bits to better understand
As someone who used to daily commute on a CBR 600 RR for years and recently swapped to a KTM 690 SMC-R, a supermoto is wonderful for commuting from my perspective. I'd even use it for touring now that I've got a comfier seat installed on it. The wind isn't too bad as long as you ain't going flat out all the time.
Cool, nice, thanks!
sounds promising, what brands and models do you believe are a great start for a new rider to look into now ? do you know if there is a brand making Super Moto that do not have all the neon colors, but look more like a vintage bike, more of a Triumph Bonneville or Harley Davidson, kind of steel bike with sot colors or just steel? thanks !
I absolutely love my DR-Z400SM which I bought used (less than 700 miles) last July. I added a rear rack, saddlebags, rear bag and tank bag, and I switch between it and my KLR for commuting/riding around town. The previous owner installed a larger tank and a slightly smaller rear sprocket for better cruising, so it's a nice setup. Even with the slightly higher gearing, it's still got some nice torque off the line and is quite peppy (especially compared to the KLR). Fantastic bike.
They hold their value well too. You can pick one up used as a first bike and sell it a couple years later for very little loss.
As someone who dailys my 22 drzsm I gotta say it's amazing. I do mostly freeway but it cruises at 75-80 no problem. Almost 10k miles later I still love it
400?
@@bennetsmith4686 400 for 12k miles, then I got some sand inside of the motor after mountain motorsports did maintinence for the warentee on the air filter. Now it's a 440 after I rebuilt it lol. The 400 cruises absolutely no problem at 80mph. I rode it to Arizona from California multiple times getting 65mpg at 80 and I've done the same to glamis, about 4 hours away.
1. You can buy an aftermarket windshield
2. Better seat, as Greg notes is avail aftermarket
3. Used 701’s from ‘16-‘19 are available w/low miles for $7k-$9k w/lots of optional eqpmt
4. You can buy wheels/tires to convert easily to an enduro - 2 bikes in 1!!!
For the right person, this is an amazingly versatile bike.
To convert it properly into an enduro, you'll probably have to get a new set of thinner rims too, which can be quite expensive. The rims on my supermoto can't accommodate any of the studded knobbies I would have been interesting in getting for this winter and had to make due with tyres that are more geared towards durability than off-road performance.
you know there is an stock enduro version of the 701 right?
Beautiful bike and congratulations on the purchase! I was torn between the 2023 Husqvarna 701 and the 2023 KTM 690 SMC R. Ended up getting the KTM last weekend and can’t wait for the weather to break up here in Michigan! This platform will be lots of fun!
KLX300SM is a great beginner sumo
Absolutely no BS, only information ppl DO need to be acknowledged. Great video!
For mirrors if you are serious about dirt riding and better mirrors for street riding check out the Double Take Enduro Mirror Kit from Rocky Mountain ATV MC. The beauty of these mirrors is you can quickly unlock them and then fold them under your front guard so they are out of the way and will not clip on trees or fences or other obstacles. Then when you want to go back onto the streets where mirrors are useful you just flip them back up and lock them into position.
The 690's/701's are really fun bikes to ride. Adding a seat concept seat will fix the hard seat issues and get rid of the mirrors for smooth air, put them down on the bars.
Really cool bike, that fuel filler location would drive me nuts though since I like to remain seated on the bike at the fuel pump.
Great video, all I'd say, you're better off spending money on mirrors than a tail tidy. Much better value... also, touring is definitely not the best, but its totally doable, especially as you have a supemoto when you get to your destination, not a gs
I feel most bike review or comparison videos don't talk nearly enough about how you plan on using a bike, and how that affects what bike you should purchase. This video is an exception! A good example would be the lack of a visor on a naked or supermoto. These bikes are meant to be exciting, and having the wind hit you adds to the sense of speed and excitement. In my opinion, it makes it better.
Tbh I’d love to have one having test ridden the SMCR, but I know it wouldn’t happen anytime soon. I’d start on a KLX300SM first and get the base mechanics down first.
We have two Husky's and agree on all points raised. Great bikes for the $$ though. Very reliable. Thanks for sharing.
I bought a 2021 DRZ400SM and fully modded it out, without opening the motor up. It broke me into the sumo world, but it just lacks power no matter what you do to it, unless you mod the motor. After 2 seasons, I had to go get a 2024 KTM500exc-f and converted it to a sumo. I have ridden everything from CR80s to R1s to Harley's and the KTM500 sumo is the most fun I have ever had on 2 wheels. I cant imagine anyone who enjoys riding not having a total blast on it.
Awesome breakdown, I am looking for agility and duality as I am coming back to riding after raising my kids. This excellent information, I will be checking into the DRZ 400 SM, thank you😊 👍
Gorgeous bike by the way 🤙
get yourself OEM duke 690 crash bars they are really good! and look for second gen. black ones
How's the 690/701 compared to a drz400sm in the handling department? Is it comparable? Weight is exactly the same
I run a ktm 300 tpi exc and have no problem touring it but I grew up racing motocross so I'm use to the seat 😂😂
Love my drz. Like you said it can do just about everything plus it's good to stunt
sounds promising, what brands and models do you believe are a great start for a new rider to look into now ? do you know if there is a brand making Super Moto that do not have all the neon colors, but look more like a vintage bike, more of a Triumph Bonneville or Harley Davidson, kind of steel bike with sot colors or just steel?
A design that look more like a classic cafe racer , a "street racer" designed with a classic look and not like a dirt bike in plastic and neon colors?!
thanks !
I bought my gs1200 new in 2008. I put 100k miles on it by 2014. Sweet ride , super comfortable touring bike.
Its pure Fun and Holigan bike skitts wheels stoppies and cornering , slide
Its a beast its for who knows what to do
Would you recommend a Kawasaki versys 300 for a beginner rider
That GS is stunning
What swingarm spool did you get? Need one please for my 701
Basically same as mine KTM SMCR. Great fun 100% 💪🏼💥👍🏆
What happened to your MT-07?
How far does it go on a full tank
I think it would be interesting to elaborate on werter or not it is possible to imagine using certain supermoto techniques on non-supermoto bikes and to what extent.
I have videos like that, very recent too
is that yours? I have Svartpilen 701, it is the beat adaptation 😅
701 or the DRZ400 for a first bike? (rider 275 lbs 6'0)
If your short you will have to lower it a couple of inches I'm 5'4" I couldn't get the kick stand up sitting on it
I don't think carburetor equipped bikes are good for new riders. Because how modern fuel is the carbs need a cleaning every few months with regular use to maintain proper fueling.
Great quality bike. 12,500 seems like a lot of money to spend on a super moto. I’m sure it’s a lot of fun to ride though.
what tail tidy?
Which knobby tyre would you suggest for fast twisty road driving but also some gravel work at the end, ie. reaching a remote beach with a broken dirt road? Will it introduce severe slippage on tarmac, or is the difference acceptable? I am a pretty aggressive street rider, no chicken strips whatsoever lol.
I don't have any....lots of dual sport tires, you'll have to get some and try them out
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just saw a video this sharp MotoJitsu guy did 2 months ago saying something to the effect of "The 2023 Kawasaki KLX 300 SM Is Better Than The DRZ 400 SM" 🤔
its not
I have this cornering weapon ... lol
I hope to watch you test drive with Husky soon!
What's too many miles for KTM used? I have seen dudes do engine case rebuilds at 13,000 miles.
That’s nuts man… I’d put that many miles on in one year lol
I want the gas gas version but I can get two drzs for the same price and that could be fun for friends idk 😵
but no fun for you lol, this bike is triple the fun of a DRZ
Yeah get the gas gas. Your friends can buy their own bikes.
Yamaha wr250x all the way
Reliable very cheap to maintain it
Its perfect
If yamaha do the same edition but with bigger engine i will buy it with eyes closed!
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Based on how long you had the MT07 and then the Suzuki GSXS, I'm betting on this one for about another week maybe three in your garage before something else seems much better to you. Ha!
Supermoto-jack of all trade, master of fun
If you have money buy it new rider or not other options KTM 690 SMC R or GASGAS. Same shit in different plastics. Relatively cheap to own and fix.
What's the minimum height to ride?
I'd say 5'7", i just got a KTM 640LC4 Supermoto, seat height is 910mm (36"), i'm 5'7", 30" inseam, i'd say any shorter and you will struggle, cant flat foot it both sides, tip toes at best, can comfortably put one foot down though, it's a very light bike though (149kg wet) , a heavy bike with a tall seat is harder work.
I'm 5 '4" I had to lower it a couple of inches I had to have my buddy test ride it I couldn't get the kick stand up sitting on it
Too late. I'll still watch though.
I want this bike so much, but I want to tour too..but I'm not a wuss.
No thanks, I got a 22' KLR650 😀
Cant even compare these two. I have both and both are fun but the 701 is a street weapon. The klr 650 is a slow heavy pig.
I thought having the wind in your face, was why people ride motorcycles.
To be honest, supermotos are pretty shitty dirt bikes and pretty shitty street bikes. But they do both well enough to be the most fun bike you’ll ever ride and scratch the itch of off road, stunting, street, touring, and just cruising.
I will say, don’t buy a supermoto if you have extended highway rides above 60/70mph. The wind gets annoying and loud. They aren’t the most stable. And a single cylinder at that speed will vibrate your hands and joints to the point you will probably experience pain.
But if you just need to go 50-60mph here and there and blast around the city or country, they are absolutely amazing. Ridiculously reliable. Fairly good fuel efficiency. Park anywhere. Ride anywhere. Jump anything. Go anywhere. Wheelie all the time.
You can usually even get a set of dirt wheels or supermotos to convert back and forth. For example: WR250X wheels fit a WR250R easily with just a caliper adaptor. And 250R wheels fit a 250X but you might need a larger rotor and it’s not really ideal.
I can cruise at 90 in 6th on my supermot Top speed is about 110, cruising speed on my pitbike is 65.
Supermoto's are awesome street bikes, especially the 690/701's. No vibes that I even notice and the wind is no big deal after a couple months. Now I get on a bike with fairings and its weird not having wind.
Im thinking of a honda CRF450 RL comes with 6 speed transmission and was thinking on just swaping the tires to convert it back n forth
So if you are buying 701SM to get it look cool and run like 85hp you will spend around 20k USD, belive me you wanna get rid of that heavy ugly ass stock muffler, LED headlight for sure, stock just looks awful I'm surprised that it actually has nice beam, but looks like you are riding cheap chinese bike, next step is tail eliminator, you can just take that hook off and put that plate on the rest of plastic with screws as I did it cost nothing, SAS removal kit, prolly header pipe will be replaced either, Galfer rotors, intake mod, pro shifter for sure - you don't wanna that false neutrals anymore, quickshifter to shift gears without reducing throttle, sticker pack, clutch slave cylinder from REKLUSE - because stock one is made of mashed potatoes, additional neutral position sensor because it will die real fast trust me, some nice grip pegs, shifter, rear brake lever, dyno jet with maps and map switch, fuel dongle, ABS dongle - it allows you to keep ABS working only on front wheel when you disable ABS (I just fully deleted ABS) skid plate (with skid plate it looks better in my opinion and it's little less possible to scratch your crankcase) and that could be it.
Both stock clutch&brake cylinders are fire but in future I'm looking for RCS17/19