EUREKA ORO MIGNON SINGLE DOSE: Worth it?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 25 июл 2024
- Today's video is all about the previously anticipated Single Dose grinder from Eureka. I put it through many tests to see how it holds up. Let me know your thoughts below! And please hit that like and subscribe if you enjoyed! Helps me a lot.
Join my Patreon community at:
/ lancehedrick
Find me on IG at:
/ lancehedrick
Find me on Facebook at:
/ lancehedrickcoffee
Check out Wired Gourmets THREE videos on the Single Dose Grinder:
First video:
• Eureka Single Dose In ...
Second video:
• Eureka Single Dose, A ...
Third Video:
• Eureka Single Dose: Al...
Check out Seattle Coffee Gear!
www.seattlecoffeegear.com/sho...
Gorilla Gear Burrs:
gorillagear.coffee/products/g...
"Gevi style" burrs:
www.alibaba.com/product-detai...
Time Cues:
0:00- Intro and Thanks
1:43- Overview
4:08- Retention Test
9:20- Noise
10:40- PSD Janky Test
13:53- All About Burrs
19:33- Filter Taste
22:58- Espresso Taste
25:33- Final Thoughts 
Развлечения
Please remember to hit the like button! Really helps give my video life when there is engagement. Really appreciate you all! Cheers
Every single time i watch your videos
I really like how authentic and real your videos are it's like you're having a conversation with each viewer, keep up the good work sir
Thank you! Appreciate it greatly
The little chuckle after mentioning the collaboration spoons made me laugh. “Daddy Hoff” full on SENT me 🤣 you, friend, are HILARIOUS. 🤣
Thanks for the thorough review, Lance! I know it takes time to do the research you do for these videos to make them as informative as possible & I really appreciate that!
thank you! I just want to ensure people have informed decisions when making purchases! I don't take the resposibility lightly.
Its really nice for you to mention The Wired Gourmet. Easily one of the most underrated channel out there. His breakdown review for grinders are nothing like anything out there and I’m currently using his v60 method and also works fantastically.
His breakdown videos rock! I'm not a fan of the recipes, but that's just not my cup of tea....erm. coffee 😆
Continuously pushing the coffee world forward and pushing for innovation!! Keep it up Lance!!
Hahaha "Daddy Hoff would be proud", had a good giggle at that part !
Always love your content and how, both you and the wired gourmet, go in depth when looking at the grinders.
As always, cheers ! ☕
He definitely beats me on in depth disassembly, but I do my best to mix in relevant deconstruction with jn depth taste experience since that is my forte being in the coffee world for a decade and calibrating with pros around the world.
That's the beauty of community ! Everyone chips in with their experiences ! Definitely learned loaaaads across many topics thanks to you so big thanks and keep doing what you do best ! ☕ Plus I'm pretty sure YT recommended me his channel after binging your grinders and burrs reviews haha
Heck yeah! Love to hear it
Thank you for this video that helped me knock one more grinder off of my Niche replacement
Was waiting for this video! Thx!
Heck yeah!
Thanks for the close-ups. Great job
thank you for watching!
Great review as always... Thanks for telling it as it is.
Thank you for watching!
Waiting for the Eureka Zero!! Thanks for this review!
How do you like the mignon zero so far? I'm about to buy it
Great video as always lance!
Thank you so much!
Great video yet again Lance
Thank you so much!
As always great video :)
I love your knowledge Lance! This whole time I didn’t think about retention of ~.15 grams in CO2 being released from beans counts as a loss in retention and was frustrated on why no matter how much I thwack my bellows, I’d get 17.2 in 16.9-17.1 out!
That basically equates to the weight of a single coffee bean. If that's too much retention for you then you need therapy, lol.
Bought the Eureka Oro Stark and im pretty happy ( Same grinder but not single dosing oriented , Kinda eureka mignion specialita with oro single dose specs ).
Thanks for being very very complexed and critical in the review .
Cheers from Portugal :)
Where in Portugal? I'm moving to Porto soon 😁
@@LanceHedrick Porto Precisely :) If you need any information/recommendation let me know (instagram.com/coffeecionado.pt/?hl=en)
Super stoked for the DF64 video! I’m moving in august and hoping to upgrade from a hand grinder around then. I’d love to hear how you feel about the DF64 for filter coffee
In the video it sounded super quiet but if you're saying it's louder than the Sette then holy crap. My Sette it insanely loud so thanks for including that for reference.
Currently using my Breville SGP and planning on an upgrade after my birthday in a few months. There are so many options - for company, burr type, coating, and size, motor power etc... it's so overwhelming. So much conflicting info about how much difference these variables truly make.
I know almost any grinder I buy will be a huge step up from the SGP, but it's so easy to talk yourself into and out of a grinder for various reasons
Thanks for the hard work. You've convinced me that it's not necessary for me to upgrade from my Specialita... with a completely stock unit, I only get 0.3 grams of retention when trying to single-dose it, similar to your mentioned numbers before smacking the bellows.
Have you had the opportunity to look at any of the Ceado grinders? They have the E5SD which seems like a natural competitor to this thing, but I haven't really seen any discussion of their stuff outside of channels from their vendors (for my part, I'm more interested in the e37SD primarily due to the microadjustment knob. I have suspicions how awful it would be trying to dial in an espresso while rotating the entire top burr carrier, but the price point starts to approach some of the boutique stuff).
Thanks for the vid.
Thanks for watching!
I love slapping my Oros bellows every morning. 3D printed an extended dial and used it for aero press and pour overs. It do be leavin snacks in my cup but the espressos have been great afaik lol.
Thanks. On my short list. Looking forward to next weeks video. I will get black to match my LH DB I am getting (🙏🏼)
Heck yeah! Love to hear it haha
Great geek content!
Thanks for the overview, Lance. I have a Niche Zero and like to see the competitors in the single dose grinder market. You know...FOMO. Not yet ready to give up my NZ. ☕😁☕
Thanks for the review as always. Really appreciate the fit testing for the different burrs. Always assumed that since Eureka had 'unique' diameter measurements other burrs wouldn't fit so I'm glad that was cleared up. The gorilla gear burrs don't have a dedicated review do they? Or did I miss a video
I have this grinder. It's not quiet. I'm glad it's not just mine. It feels like an industrial grinder in a consumer case. I'm not entirely sure if that's good or not. I'd rather that way around than a cool case with sparrows fart for a motor. Holding the hopper helps with the din. I only mention the noise because I have a rotary pump espresso machine, so it feels very slick, quiet and is at odds with the Eureka. Having said that, the Eureka is very consistent, has never clogged, and the retention is minimal. If I was deaf, it would be the perfect grinder. Incidentally, there are now SSP burrs for this grinder. Oh, and great video, Mr H.
23:36 Dude, the Holes reference was amazing. "Kissin'" Kate Barlow. Maybe it's because I still have a soft spot for Middle Grades and YA lit and I love media pop culture, but I totally dig when you pull out a random movie or book reference because it connects the dots for you!
Kissing Kate Barlow. That's right! Couldn't remember the moniker off the top of my dome but remembered Sam. Glad you enjoyed the reference haha!
Lance I have been binging all your videos. I am looking for an end game grinder that can do both espresso and filter well. In your opinion is that the Ditting 807 Lab Sweet or should I be looking elsewhere? Thanks.
As for the reason that Eureka does not recommend RDT, it might have something to do with beans not getting down to the burrs. Someone spritzed their beans in another video that I watched on this grinder and because the hopper sits at that 15 degree angle, a couple of the beans kind of stuck to the bottom of the hopper and he had to poke those into the hole. He mentioned that when he did the same retention tests without using RDT, that issue did not present itself.
I had the issue happen with and without rdt, to be fair. And this is a common problem in grinders.
Thanks!
Hey Lance,
How do the slightly larger burrs compared with the specialita? Would the espresso taste pretty much the same?
Thx you for this review Lance
I may have a question...I have an Eureka Mignon Perfetto ,making decents espresso's
Do you believe I should upgrade to an Eureka Oro?
Will it increase quality of my espressoS?
Many thanks to your reviews, you Rock Lance ;-)
Im really curious on your opinion about the eureka brew pro, it’s basically a specialita but with a brew specific burrs.
On the grider reviews it would be nice to know the range of settings for espresso dark and light roasts. Too many grinders are described as "a small adjustemt makes a big change". I find this unacceptable for dialing in and later returning to an espresso grind setting.
You can greatly reduce retention without bellows or RDT by turning the grinder back on immediately after grinding. The kick of the motor knocks extra grind out. I consistently get 0.02g retention with espresso grind.
I've done that. And have even left it off for a while to allow static to lessen. Never once did I get that little of Retention. Not saying you are wrong
Just saying that is absolutely not my experience
@@LanceHedrick my scale could be lying, or it could be that I have one of the horrific initial batches that vibrate like crazy. 😂
Do those Gevi burrs create a more unimodal taste profile? I have a stock df64 burr and am always looking for more sweetness especially since im drinking light-medium.
Hey Lance, notice you have the breville espresso machine, your views on vibration vs rotary pump?
You, James Hoffmann, and Kyle Rowsell are my favorite notifications to get hahaha woohoo!!!
thank you so much! Great company to be in. Their videography is much prettier though haha!
The real Sprometheus and the wired gourmet?
@@HooiHoed haven’t seen them. I’ll check them out, thanks!!
Really enjoy wired gourmet's deconstruction videos. No one else on all of youtube like him. Objective.
Brian Quan, Jkim makes, Lifestyle Labs, Joe Varacalli, Rob Pirie, The Coffee Chronicler, Xris, and Ārāmse are all awesome channels too.
Michael Fabian has a great channel but hasn’t uploaded I’m almost a year.
What app are you using for the dB levels?
Hi Lance,
Does the quality in cup pretty much same as the specialita?
Would RDT make any difference in more humid climates? I live in the tropics and have never had an issue with static.
How do you reckon it compares to a Vario with the steel burr set?
Please make a review on the Eureka Oro XL!
Are the Gevi style burrs better than the stock Oro burrs? Thanks.
Ok, question: I notice the Breville Pro grinder in almost all of your videos, is that your go to? Reason I ask is because I’m looking to finally upgrade mine. My Son recently purchased the Sette 30 and will add the micro adjuster basically turning it into the 270. Im looking for a single dose and am spinning with all the comparisons. What would you recommend? @$600
Thanks so much!
Great stuff!
Quick question, is the alibaba-burrs sold in pairs? Or do you need to buy two of them?
Great video as always , thanks Lance.
Btw, considering retention, shouldn't it be measured by first cleaning the whole burr area (+ shute) and then comparing in- and output (every time)? Or else it seems to me like an X amount of grams might be inside after a grind, during next grind the X amount from previous grind comes out first, and at the end a new X amount of grounds is left behind. You would measure with a "filled grinder" only the consistency regarding throughput no?
I agree. No one in the reviews seems to understand it. Just weighing beans in and grounds out over and over again makes no sense at all. The exchanged grounds are the only reason switching from espresso to filter sucks on the eureka single dose.
@@Phil_OG There's likely no exchange, that's pretty obvious from the design of the inside of the grind chamber.
@@bluemystic7501 lol
I had this grinder and sold it because of exchange
@@Phil_OG And how exactly did you determine there was an exchange happening?
@@bluemystic7501 I just opened it up and saw that there was 1g of ground coffee in the exit shout/at the declumber
also when I switched to pour over I ended up with more ground coffee than I put in
I keep getting distracted by the opened coffee beans jar
Hahaha sorry 😞
I didn’t see any.
Hi! I have the Eureka Silenzio and ever since i opened the top to clean the Burrs ive been having major retention. 3-4 grams approximately. I used to have 0.1 to max half a gram retention. The machine is only 2 months old. `ive tried everything seen all ur videos other videos cleaned it all with brushes hoovering u name it and still getting the same. I would bang on the top after getting that retention and another 2 grams would fall through the shoot but not the grams that i put in. I used to put 17 and get 16,8 and not i get 13-14 and by tilting it and banging on it it i would get maybe 16. but never 17. I even took it to where i bought it from and he said its humidity which is surely not the case. Any advice?? Thanks Sam
Which burr has the 23 breakers? The link in the description goes to the listing for 12 breakers.
If anyone by any chance knows will Ode Gen 2 burrs fit Eureka SD? I suppose Lence is using Gen 1 burrs in the video to show it fits, but will burrs from Gen 2 also fit?
I know it's been a while but if anyone is interested in this grinder and only held back by the limited burr upgrade options (like me, I hate the DF64, so this Eureka was on my radar for a while)... I have good news. SSP is making slightly smaller 64 mm burrs for Eureka grinders and I saw photos sent by the vendor of these burrs fitting like a glove. My grinder should be arriving tomorrow and I'll order the SSP burrs maybe next month. Happy I didn't have to go with the DF64.
this is huge news and I'm definitely interested!! Where can I purchase these burrs?
Any update on how the burrs work and fit with the grinder?
link?
Any update on the ssp burrs?
I ordered the Alibaba burrs he linked and while there was a great improvement with fines and clarity, the burrs were slightly shorter and the grinder can’t bring them close enough together for espresso grind or alignment. Please confirm SSP burrs don’t have this issue! 🙏
Fantastic video, even as a viewer who already owns the grinder!
One question for you - how did you remove the grind size dial? I tried to take mine apart to align the burrs, but I got stuck trying to remove the screws that hold the chute in place because the grind dial covered one of them.
Don't think you do mate , you pull it away from under it
Hay I drink French press n filter coffee with milk - which makes better taste niche, eureka or fellow ode (without ssp) ?
Is there a burr set you would recommend to make this a dedicated drip grinder? I'm having a hard time picking a grinder, already have a nice espresso one, totally okay owning two.
I'm also curious for what the best option for pour-over burr sets pair best with this grinder!!
I've been using the Eureka Oro for about a month now. I am very pleased with my results. I do agree though, the stock burr set tends to make a good amount of "fines." Lance, is there a burr set you'd recommend to reduce fines and make it more geared towards pour-overs?
Some good news, I messaged Eureka and their response was as follows "We will launch (very soon) a new product, with new burrs, specifically for pour over, and they will be compatible with your Mignon Single Dose. So I kindly suggest you to wait them."
Lance, I'd still would love to hear your thoughts on any alternatives. Thanks mate!
@@Danylevy12 nothing
Cheers!
Thank you
🥰🥰🥰
How did you remove the dialing knob ?
It’s so hard to buy a prizy grinder knowing it won’t preform as good on either espresso or filter. I do be liking them both…
For sure. This would do both well with other burrs.
I love body and sweetness in my shot and am torn between the Sette 270, Niche Zero and this little bad boy, what's your advice, is it worth spending more or will the Sette make me happy if taste is more important than looks, workflow or noise?
Finding lots of mods for the Gaggia Classic Pro. Still searching for a decent, low cost espresso capable grinder. Just saw a RUclips video the Eureka Mignon Crono/Filtro grinder, putting espresso burrs in place of the filter-brew burrs the grinder(s) come with. $33.00 on Amazon. Your thoughts?
Appreciate the video! Would you say the Gorilla Gear burrs would be a significant upgrade if you mostly pull shots of fruit forward, lighter roast coffee? How would the two burr sets compare? I've been liking my Mignon XL, but feel it lacks a little in the clarity department. Many thanks!
I think SSP is also coming out with burrs for some Eureka grinders finally! If they have a Unimodal type burr, go for that.
@@BensCoffeeRants Actually picked up the Gorilla Gears, they produce a much higher clarity cup. If I would have known SSP was looking into that, I might have waited... If they drop a unimodal, I might be tempted, but the GG burrs are already worlds better.
@@BensCoffeeRants where did u see this? Would be nice if that's true.
@@ronaldlau14789 facebook somewhere I believe someone had a test version already. Showed pics. I think there is going to be ones available for 55mm specialita (actually 54mm I believe) and 64mm (for Oro SD etc)
So the reason for no rdt, in my opinion: it makes for clump build-up in front of the clump crusher!
In my specialita the hole from the grind chamber through the declumper is really small and the water builds up little clumps in front of it that I found recently in my deep clean taking it apart.
So i just removed the declumper, now I get almost 0 retention with rdt on the specialita an no coffee building up inside 👍
I figured that was it but I don't always get buildup in machines with declumpers. Can never known with manufacturers. Some of then swear it is bad for the burrs.
@@LanceHedrick sounds reasonable. I guess there are some designs for declumpers that favor RDT and some that get killed by it 👍
How is moving back and forth between filter and espresso with the small dial stepless adjustment?
As annoying as every other one of their models haha!
You have to remember where you are in terms of rotations and numbers.
Good timing with the wired gourmet 🤓
Haha I saw that!
@@LanceHedrick but it’s a perfect addition! Thank you for this! I think I’m sold, i don’t really mind the noise, plus it looks really good.
can you help me on how many times to turn around the grinder adjuster after screwing it out completely?
any experience with the eureka mignon filtro grinders? i heard its got great uniformity and neutrality but i dont see a lot of reviews that go deeper into it comparing to other grinders out there
Hi Lance, thank you always for your insightful reviews. I’m currently torn between a Eureka Mignon and a Niche Zero (I do both espresso and pour over). I looked at your previous reviews of the Niche but couldn’t tell which one you prefer (if you do prefer one over the other at all). As they’re both about the same in terms of price point which one do you prefer for single dosing grinders? I had the specialita recommended to me but know it’s more finicky than the niche to set up.
Im the same. This is cheaper than the niche though.. id really like his opinion on it
What kind of coffees do you guys like, light medium or dark? And just for espresso?
I'm in the same boat. Really like the look of the niche 0. The price for me is at the higher end, but more importantly flat burr is meant to be better. 🤷♂️
@@Daniel_Adam it all depends on the specific burr design can't really judge by flat or conical these days.
I do prefer medium to darker roasts atm. Espresso only for me
What about atom75 if oro not available
great reviews, one gentle suggestion is to compress your vocals to limit the volume variation when you speak.
Lance, would you know if your unit is an initial production model or the V1.1? I have had distribution size issues with mine when used with filter. Also the vibration is annoying. I have a V1.1 model being sent to me as a replacement, wondering if I should continue to use it or replace it with something else.
How do i find what version it is? Mine was manufactured in late Mar. I use it only for espresso and find the vibrations minimal
Good question. Mine is still with UPS. The Canadian seller, iDrinkCoffee, has the V1.1 in stock
How would you compare this to DF64?
“Daddy Hoff will be proud” lol
thx for the explanations and demonstrations... @tasting, particularly espresso : what does s"he does a pretty good job", "it is actually not bad" - putting it bluntly that sounds like a harsh critique , doesn't it;-)??
Lance I’m between this guy and the DF64 with the SSP HU burrs. I mainly like single origin light roast and it will be only for espresso. What’s your call?
Df64. No question.
RDT might have a negative effect on the declumper, would be my guess. Great review btw.
I guess but I don't have that issue with a small spritz on other grinders unless the declumper sucks haha!
Have you tried the Df64? Curious if you have any thoughts about it
Yep! Video coming next week
Excellent review as always
Nice information this for the size of the burrs, more like a marketing trick from eureka, I didn't like that from a coffee product company, we are coffee passionates, not washing machine Walmart buyers
For an espresso drinker it's a hard decision between this and niche
Thanks for the kind words! And for me, I'd go with this if between it and niche. But thats just because I'm not a big fan of the niche.
Some other RUclipsr tried RDT and their coffee stick to the side, doesn't go down to the grinder. Maybe that's the reason why.
Why can’t I find any comparisons between the oro and the zero (eureka)
Just a heads-up, the eureka pro filter burrs only come in 50 and 55mm, for the smaller mignons
Ah that sucks. I assumed there was 65mm versions. Oh well. Good thing I suggested alternatives lol
How are they for espresso? More clarity?
The brew burrs? I haven't tried them for the specialita
@@user-lv7ph7hs7l I haven't seen of any comparisons. All I've heard is that they're good
Will you be reviewing the Eureka Atom 75 in the future?
This
Really like your videos and reviews.
On this particular review though, I’m not sure I got the “final thought” from you. I know you’re not trying to give a black/white verdict on if it’s rights for everyone, but certainly to answer the question in the video title (is it worth the money).
I don’t own this grinder, but i have seen and used the specialità. From motor to burrs to case and pretty much everything, this really seems to be one of those on a ramp. Even has the remnant button that is used for portafilter that doesn’t seem to work for this design. “Louder than a Baratza Sette,” Made me spit out my espresso, because as an owner of a Sette, I could barely believe what I heard even with the hearing aid the Baratza caused me to get. That seems crazy from the same company that made the Silenzio. Also because of the increased cost of this grinder. I’ve some other RUclipsrs review and compare the Oro, and most seem to conclude that it’s nice and all, just not worth the money.
I suppose that you’re going to do some amount of comparison with the DF64 review to really answer if this grinder is worth the money.
Ah true. I guess I assume implications are evident. I don't think it worth the money, tho it is a fine grinder.
Love your videos, but find it kind of funny yhat you're hand holding a tablet at a random distance to do loudness testing? lol :) My Oro arrived just after Xmas, been loving it so far. Never had any issues with coffee grinds going everywhere, but do notice that it will built up in that spot just behind the wooden dosing cup indent. Also received a pretty decent deal on it with a Lelit Anna PID, so even more happy!
It's not a tablet. It is a phone. And it's just a cheap and easy way to compare decibels. Obviously not accurate but enough so to compare to other grinders.
I didn't do this in the past but was inundated with requests to include it.
@@LanceHedrick Invest in a cheap sound meter, measuring tape and a triopod. Just like making espresso, comparisons need consistency! :)
Issue is, I don't find noise to be super relevant lol. Hard to want to spend even more money (that I don't have lol) on something I don't find to be super useful information to begin with. Haha
I think for most people the quality of the sound is more important than the quantity of sound.
@@LanceHedrick lol Fair enough! Actually, Andrew brought something up in one of the follow up to my reply, sounds aren't equal. At the same sound pressure, different frequencies are going to be more annoying than others. Coming from a PC geek point of view, plenty of fans come close to the same volume level as Noctua fans, but they sound much worse.
And I can certainly see people being interested on how a grinder or espresso machine is going to sound. Just depends on how deep down the measurement rabbit hole you want to go!
All I know, the Oro is making much better espresso than my old Smart Grinder Pro! Oh and quieter too! hah!
Is the other thing from Seattle coffee gear from Ascaso?!
I love mine
Did I see a Bosetamper in the intro?? review coming?
Would you plan to do a review for Fiorenzato Allground? Wanna pick one between ORO Single Dose and Allground.
Yep! I should be getting one somewhat soon
@@LanceHedrick Thank you so much!! Cant wait to watching your review!🤩🤩
Wow louder than the baratza sette, Eureka need to put in some of their silencing stuff they put in the silenzio.
Louder by decibel but the pitch isn't as unpleasant as the sette lol
What's the differences or Advantage / Disadvantages between DC and AC motor, I remember the Baratza Vario marketing I think saying the DC motors are better because you get instant torque, like no ramping up in speed. I believe the Lagom P64 has a DC Brushless motor but it kinda ramps itself up anyway (which is moot anyway, since it's a single dosing grinder and you can 'hot load' it anyway).
more efficient (less power), more torque quickly, more compact, etc.
Something I notice in many videos (in addition to yours) is very few people use a consistent noise-measuring approach. In industrial machines, most noise specifications specify a distance from the equipment (e.g., one metre away). I suggest adopting a measurement routine along those lines rather than moving the microphone close to the surface. This routine, when used consistently while measuring noise on different pieces of equipment, should give a better basis for comparison.
here a question. rather than machining/dremeling the grinder. Could you remachine the ssp burr to fit. Do the wholes allign?
yes the holes align. I would not recommend remachining the burrs.
@LanceHedrick super quick response lance. :) I was thinking I could machine the rim down to 64mm esp if the wholes allign. I have a machine lathe hence the QQ especially if the ssp are much better burr obviously otherwise its an expensive experiment
@LanceHedrick great video btw. Looking at alternatives to the niche.
The only two screws for the up burrs is a big mistake for me.
Thanks for a great, thorough review - as always. Question: I have the Mignon Oro XL (not single dose) and I prefer medium to medium dark roast beans for espresso (I have issues with acid so I reserve light roasts for cold brew). Would the Gorilla burrs be better than the stock Eureka burrs for espresso in this instance? I assume they will fit my machine as well as this single-dose grinder. Thanks in advance.
@John P. John, how about Eureka's own Red Speed burrs ? As explained in the video here, Eureka's stock burrs are very similar in geometry & teeth config to those of Gorilla and SSP as well. I'm super curious about them. (ps: I know a few cafe owners that use Atom 75s with their Red Speed burrs if that's any indication...)
@@johnkoroglu8640 I don't think the redspeed coated Eureka burrs are going to change the taste profile, if the burr geometry is the same, it's just a coating for greater longevity, mostly useful for commercial use, for home use, it will extend the burrs lifetime from like 12-20 years, to 100+.
Also not sure if they have a 64mm coated burr, but I do believe SSP is coming out with ones that will fit Eureka grinders soon. Those have different geometry which will give you different grind quality.
I haven't tried Gorilla Gears myself, but I remember hearing they are higher body / lower clarity (It might be better for dark roasts) not sure if it's worth changing since Eureka burrs aren't super high clarity, they have a good balance already.
Thank you so much for your open thoughts! I simply cant decide between the Niche Zero and the Eureka Oro, could you maybe help me? Mainly for espresso, for filter i would use my old C40. :)
That's a tough one.
Long story short-
If workflow is your number 1 priority, niche. Hands down.
If you prefer more than just body and chocolate in your cup, then Oro. I'd suggest watching my niche and oro videos for more in depth discussions!
@@LanceHedrick thanks for the fast reply! I‘m absolutely new in the espresso game so I really don’t know what taste I would like more. Up to date I only made pour overs with my C40. I already watched all of your videos about the niche and the oro but still.. I cant decide 😕 im living in Germany, so the oro is „only“ 600€, the Niche would be 580€ + taxes, VAT and shipping
Having the same issue. I also feel the nz built quality is better… have you decided?
@@davidh13 yes indeed. First I got the eureka but was really disappointed how hard you have to punch the silicone thing to get everything out and how bad the adjustment was, because it’s to imprecise. After a few weeks a problem accured because the calibration wasn’t right, so the eureka sometimes rattled when I turned it off. I returned it and got the Niche. Totally happy. 18 in, 18 out, without any punshing and the adjustability is awesome.
@@drsteee Thanks, thats my thoughts exactly!
JUNE 2024 - STILL WAY TOO MUCH VIBRATION. I purchased this grinder new in Australia. I had read all about the first batch's vibration issues, and that they'd been resolved. Sadly, these ORO Single Dose units still have 3-4 times the vibration of Eureka's upright grinders, even vs the XL with same 65mm burr set. I was shocked and disappointed, so I drove to the distributor to compare the Eureka range. The vibrations on their display Single Dose were almost as bad as the one shipped to me. I believe it is a fundamental flaw with the 15 degree tilt of the motor.
Off topic but I feel like we deserve a moustachioed Lance
I'll try. Just for you