Thank you very much on the video i love it! Im new aff warlock and i love it so much, i saw people that rank warlock between C and D and people said "reroll" not worth it etc etc.. (same with shadow priest that people say its bad and not worth and you wont get invites etc...) and you just make me want to play the spec no matter what! i think beside the "meta" there is also the skill of the player. great vid, great content i love it. subbed.
Thanks for the guide, was great ti saw. Only have one question about UA, i saw you cast one time on 2 targets. How ir works UA really? I understand that cast on 1 Target on the pull and it spread but mantein on main target
If you are running doom blossom, as long as the seed hits that target with Unstable Affliction on it, it's fine to cast on any target. I just find it's way easier to have your main target be the on that has Unstable Affliction and spread the seed from there most of the time.
So I got the trinket from Fyrakk , have you found any build where it shines? It seems to require having a lot of crit. I basically won it in a raid, it was a huge item level boost from 424 to 470 but when I simmed myself, dps dropped by 1k.
First off great video. Only suggestion is to briefly explain what a talent does when you go over them for those that are listening on the go without a skill tree open following along. Other than that, amazing vid!! Focus target question: do you have a macro to right click the mob to set it? Or a bind? And if so how do you bind it? I’m kinda full on binds and was wondering what you do to instantly aquire that target and then pump without delay. Also my target frames are so cluttered. I use stacking nameplates but need a weak aura to remind me of impactful spells that need to be kicked. You use something that adds to the nameplates which is kinda neat to see the CDs. You just memorize the prio kicks in the packs or rely solely on the nameplates visual? Cause if so I need to adopt what you do, my kicks are lacking. My dot tracker isn’t a weak aura I use an addon called tellmewhen and I can see in real time how many seconds left on the dots. It’s quite difficult to see them on nameplates with so much going on. Maybe that will help someone that prefers looking down vs on nameplates. Pleasure to watch a great lock that likes to share things with the community. Much love.
Thank you, I'll try and answer as much as I can. For the focus target, I have a keybind. To bind it it's just under keybinds & search focus target. For my kicks I use the mod on my plater profile to help me remember/learn important kicks but eventually I just memorize what is important and it's just there as a reminder if things are a bit hectic. For dot tracking whatever works best for you, I'm way more comfortable watching my nameplates for all my important information, such as kicks, mob cast CDs, & my dots. + My ElvUI profile does something similar to what you mentioned it shows dot uptime on my action bars. Hope this helps!
I found the rotation part of the video difficult to follow, do you think you will highlight this more in a future video? As someone new to Affliction I would love some sort of visual aid to help with this. Great video nevertheless!
Just a heads up, he has a graphic list on the right side of the screen of literally what he is casting in the exact order. I didn't notice it either when I first watched the video, but it helped me a lot while rewatching the video :)
can you farm heroic dungeons in 10.2 now? atm you can only farm repeatable dungeons for dragonflight specific dungeons. which makes farming bis trinkets a little more annoying.
I was keeping my fingers crossed for demo to have metamorph back but they gave it to some god damn dh and I tried affi couple of times but it's so much harder to play than the other two sepcs that it's crazy to me. I will try some more but it is not going great so far :p
I am very new to warlocks and I also do not like having pets. So when I saw Affliction plays without one, I tried it and I really enjoy it! I found your video helpful thanks! One question though: Is the talent Inevitable Demise that bad? I like casting Drain Life on 4 mobs after I get the haste buff from Dark Harvest. Feels nice but I don't know if it's good damage-wise. You think it has potential to be used?
I personally don't like playing it & it's damage isn't great in my opinion. However it can be strong in certain situations. I've seen it used in plenty of keys. If you enjoy playing it try it for a while and see what you think.
Hello, are you still playing Afflicted in dungeons since season 3? I prepared for dozens and dozens of hours an affliction warlock at the end of season 2 and I found myself with a specialization which really has a dps problem with the configuration of the S3 dungeons and certain affixes Oo.. How are you experiencing this start of the season? Or you may have switched to demono to overcome this problem like too much waarlock
I've still been playing affliction, I played demo as well to compare. Demo is a bit stronger for sure. Affliction definitely needs buffs, but I've still done every key as affliction there will be videos coming soon. I also stream almost everyday affliction keys. Hope we see some changes soon tho
@@arsynwho I hadn't noticed that you were also streaming ^^ I'm going to follow myself and come see it a little closer because on YT it's simple there are 0 raid boss or m+ key videos in affli POV.. It's not easy to try to find good players to improve... I got 4p last night and the result isn't very conclusive either. I'm staying behind overall it's so tank dependent :/ Finally I'm not having my best start to the season because of that and I really don't want to play demono... quickly quickly upload us some keys in affli :p thank you for your answer in any case
Question, should we not run these new builds till we have the 4-set? I currently do not have the class trinket, so should I drop DG or wait till I have 4-set?
This is all for the new 4Set, and if you don't have the class trinket you can run with or without the darkglare completely up to you. But it's not terrible to run the builds I suggest and get used to them while you aquire the new set.
I see in your talents you run grimoire of synergy with grimoire of sacrifice. Does that work even though we've sacrificed our pet? I throw those two points into fiendish stride normally. :] also, do you know if dark harvest lasts 12 seconds now because of the tier lengthening of soul rot duration? thanks :]
I'm curious if you have a video segment anywhere that you've discussed why you like Affliction warlock. I big sentiment in the content warlock community seems to be that it isn't very satisfying to watch and is a headache to juggle all of your spells. I wonder if you have any thoughts on what keeps you on Aff and how you might sell the spec to a new player to make it feel satisfying and cool. Everything from lore, looks, animations, game loop etc.
I've talked about it on stream a bunch, but essentially I love the playstyle for several reasons. It's unlike anything else in the game imo, I've been playing for almost 16years at this point & I just really fell in love with the entire playstyle of the spec. Also I think it's a spec that has a pretty decent difficulty curve & you can really separate yourself from others when played well. Right now aswell everyone always says what your mentioned essentially people don't like it or think it's bad. That's another reason I picked it up I wanted to know how bad it really was and what I could do with it. Some specs may be better or easier, but a the end of the day this is a game it's what I enjoy playing the most. The lore & all the is also rad tho lol
As some1 who just returned for the new patch and doesnt have the "old" T-Set bonus - is there a talentbuild for ppl like me? No class-trinket and no t-set bonus?
Yeah for sure you can run the build I talk about with doom blossom // harvest + dark glare & get used to the playstyle when you get your tier. Or you can even just run the older build with doom blossom // grim reach. If you are doing lower keys tho I would suggest the first build. Try things out see what you like.
I thought Undulating Sporecloak was going to be really good for Warlock and most classes. Has that changed? Thanks for the great guide. Really enjoy them. The Idols proc once about every 30 seconds. They work best using either 4 gems so you get 4 stacks each time allowing you to stack your stat 4 times (16 stacks until you get the 5th proc) giving you high levels of your stat for long periods. Or you have to have 7 gems to trigger 7 stacks each proc. which will be harder to get as we gear up.
Ty , Sporecloak got nerfed by about 50% for it's shield so idk if it will still be as strong as it is now for higher keys. But good note on the trinkets!
I saw the 50% shield nerf but at 447 they now give 281 Verse when above 70% which adds to dps and reduces damage somewhat. Not sure how high the verse goes at 486 ilvl. That is why I thought it was going to be really good. Thanks again. Love your videos.@@arsynwho
@@bobbonner4195 thank you! Yeah totally get it, however that vers bonus also just got nerfed yesterday by 75%. So I don't think it will be nearly as good anymore.
Yeah absolutely, gluttony + dark harvest is solid for low keys. You don't have to worry much about not having cool downs or wasting them. However, as affliction we will always have a bit of ramp in our damage so if things die instantly sometimes it will feel bad. But this build will be great in low & high keys, in my opinion.
I personally feel like Dark Harvest is extremely undertuned and basically not worth putting a point into. Darkglare sucks for sure, but feels nice on bossfights at least to extend the dots. So I had Darkglare and Crescendo skilled. I mean considering Dark Harvest 100% stronger in Shadowlands while also having Dreamweaver's haste buff. Don't know why they refuse to buff it (They hate affliction) Edit: Great video and I share your enthusiasm in playing a "bad" spec, which I love and am able to play really well Amplify Curse should empower all existing curses, that would give Warlock so much more good utility for M+
Yeah, I think for me personally embellishments are a bit of a mess right now. I'm going to try verdant conduit for a while & see how it feels especially if more people in the group have it. Luckily we can always recraft if needed!
Highly professionally made video. Loved every bit of it. Big like!
Thank you very much on the video i love it!
Im new aff warlock and i love it so much, i saw people that rank warlock between C and D and people said "reroll" not worth it etc etc..
(same with shadow priest that people say its bad and not worth and you wont get invites etc...)
and you just make me want to play the spec no matter what!
i think beside the "meta" there is also the skill of the player.
great vid, great content i love it.
subbed.
Agreed. If its not meta it just means you have to be really good to make it work. Practice. Demon Hunters just lick the keyboard and do dmg lol.
Great guide! Looking forward to seeing you push more in 10.2
Just started Maining Afflic. I am def going to get all these UI stuff or at least the Name plates stuff. Seems super helpful!
Great great great great video homie! I do have 2 questions, but I'll just ask you in stream next time I raid you :)
Ty for the Video 👍Keep ups the Good Work u Helped me alot as a returning affliction enjoyer❤
Thanks for the guide, was great ti saw. Only have one question about UA, i saw you cast one time on 2 targets. How ir works UA really? I understand that cast on 1 Target on the pull and it spread but mantein on main target
UA can only be on one target at a time, sometimes on target dummies there's an issue with the pvp talent where you can cast it on multiple targets.
Best guy ❤
good stuff
is inevitable demise worth taking at all in mythic +? it synergizes pretty well with vile taint+soul rot
good stuff
Great guide, You get a sub
Wouldn’t you want to use siphon life before corruption because it has a longer duration by 1 second
Love affliction lock too. My favourite and been my main for 8 years or so lol destro swap for dps 2s tho for the burst
I might’ve missed it, do you change target for each seed of corrupt you use or can I spam it on 1 target?
If you are running doom blossom, as long as the seed hits that target with Unstable Affliction on it, it's fine to cast on any target. I just find it's way easier to have your main target be the on that has Unstable Affliction and spread the seed from there most of the time.
So is the seed clause of the tier set still bugged?
So I got the trinket from Fyrakk , have you found any build where it shines? It seems to require having a lot of crit. I basically won it in a raid, it was a huge item level boost from 424 to 470 but when I simmed myself, dps dropped by 1k.
First off great video. Only suggestion is to briefly explain what a talent does when you go over them for those that are listening on the go without a skill tree open following along. Other than that, amazing vid!!
Focus target question: do you have a macro to right click the mob to set it? Or a bind? And if so how do you bind it? I’m kinda full on binds and was wondering what you do to instantly aquire that target and then pump without delay.
Also my target frames are so cluttered. I use stacking nameplates but need a weak aura to remind me of impactful spells that need to be kicked. You use something that adds to the nameplates which is kinda neat to see the CDs. You just memorize the prio kicks in the packs or rely solely on the nameplates visual? Cause if so I need to adopt what you do, my kicks are lacking.
My dot tracker isn’t a weak aura I use an addon called tellmewhen and I can see in real time how many seconds left on the dots. It’s quite difficult to see them on nameplates with so much going on. Maybe that will help someone that prefers looking down vs on nameplates.
Pleasure to watch a great lock that likes to share things with the community. Much love.
Thank you, I'll try and answer as much as I can.
For the focus target, I have a keybind. To bind it it's just under keybinds & search focus target.
For my kicks I use the mod on my plater profile to help me remember/learn important kicks but eventually I just memorize what is important and it's just there as a reminder if things are a bit hectic.
For dot tracking whatever works best for you, I'm way more comfortable watching my nameplates for all my important information, such as kicks, mob cast CDs, & my dots. + My ElvUI profile does something similar to what you mentioned it shows dot uptime on my action bars. Hope this helps!
Feel like I am being pushed away from destro this season. Held strong through s1 & 2 but gotta learn aff this tier it seems.
Great video.
I found the rotation part of the video difficult to follow, do you think you will highlight this more in a future video? As someone new to Affliction I would love some sort of visual aid to help with this. Great video nevertheless!
Just a heads up, he has a graphic list on the right side of the screen of literally what he is casting in the exact order. I didn't notice it either when I first watched the video, but it helped me a lot while rewatching the video :)
can you farm heroic dungeons in 10.2 now? atm you can only farm repeatable dungeons for dragonflight specific dungeons. which makes farming bis trinkets a little more annoying.
Did they fixed the seed? ty for guide, I love aff the most too
I don't think it's been fixed on live servers yet, supposedly fixed on PTR tho
I was keeping my fingers crossed for demo to have metamorph back but they gave it to some god damn dh and I tried affi couple of times but it's so much harder to play than the other two sepcs that it's crazy to me. I will try some more but it is not going great so far :p
I am very new to warlocks and I also do not like having pets. So when I saw Affliction plays without one, I tried it and I really enjoy it! I found your video helpful thanks! One question though: Is the talent Inevitable Demise that bad? I like casting Drain Life on 4 mobs after I get the haste buff from Dark Harvest. Feels nice but I don't know if it's good damage-wise. You think it has potential to be used?
I personally don't like playing it & it's damage isn't great in my opinion. However it can be strong in certain situations. I've seen it used in plenty of keys. If you enjoy playing it try it for a while and see what you think.
Hello, are you still playing Afflicted in dungeons since season 3? I prepared for dozens and dozens of hours an affliction warlock at the end of season 2 and I found myself with a specialization which really has a dps problem with the configuration of the S3 dungeons and certain affixes Oo.. How are you experiencing this start of the season? Or you may have switched to demono to overcome this problem like too much waarlock
I've still been playing affliction, I played demo as well to compare. Demo is a bit stronger for sure. Affliction definitely needs buffs, but I've still done every key as affliction there will be videos coming soon. I also stream almost everyday affliction keys. Hope we see some changes soon tho
@@arsynwho I hadn't noticed that you were also streaming ^^ I'm going to follow myself and come see it a little closer because on YT it's simple there are 0 raid boss or m+ key videos in affli POV.. It's not easy to try to find good players to improve... I got 4p last night and the result isn't very conclusive either. I'm staying behind overall it's so tank dependent :/ Finally I'm not having my best start to the season because of that and I really don't want to play demono... quickly quickly upload us some keys in affli :p thank you for your answer in any case
Question, should we not run these new builds till we have the 4-set? I currently do not have the class trinket, so should I drop DG or wait till I have 4-set?
This is all for the new 4Set, and if you don't have the class trinket you can run with or without the darkglare completely up to you. But it's not terrible to run the builds I suggest and get used to them while you aquire the new set.
I see in your talents you run grimoire of synergy with grimoire of sacrifice. Does that work even though we've sacrificed our pet? I throw those two points into fiendish stride normally. :]
also, do you know if dark harvest lasts 12 seconds now because of the tier lengthening of soul rot duration? thanks :]
Yea synergy still works, and dark harvest duration is not affected by soul rot duration.
I'm curious if you have a video segment anywhere that you've discussed why you like Affliction warlock. I big sentiment in the content warlock community seems to be that it isn't very satisfying to watch and is a headache to juggle all of your spells. I wonder if you have any thoughts on what keeps you on Aff and how you might sell the spec to a new player to make it feel satisfying and cool. Everything from lore, looks, animations, game loop etc.
I've talked about it on stream a bunch, but essentially I love the playstyle for several reasons. It's unlike anything else in the game imo, I've been playing for almost 16years at this point & I just really fell in love with the entire playstyle of the spec. Also I think it's a spec that has a pretty decent difficulty curve & you can really separate yourself from others when played well. Right now aswell everyone always says what your mentioned essentially people don't like it or think it's bad. That's another reason I picked it up I wanted to know how bad it really was and what I could do with it. Some specs may be better or easier, but a the end of the day this is a game it's what I enjoy playing the most. The lore & all the is also rad tho lol
U got me at "I play affliction"
As some1 who just returned for the new patch and doesnt have the "old" T-Set bonus - is there a talentbuild for ppl like me? No class-trinket and no t-set bonus?
Yeah for sure you can run the build I talk about with doom blossom // harvest + dark glare & get used to the playstyle when you get your tier. Or you can even just run the older build with doom blossom // grim reach. If you are doing lower keys tho I would suggest the first build. Try things out see what you like.
I thought Undulating Sporecloak was going to be really good for Warlock and most classes. Has that changed? Thanks for the great guide. Really enjoy them. The Idols proc once about every 30 seconds. They work best using either 4 gems so you get 4 stacks each time allowing you to stack your stat 4 times (16 stacks until you get the 5th proc) giving you high levels of your stat for long periods. Or you have to have 7 gems to trigger 7 stacks each proc. which will be harder to get as we gear up.
Ty , Sporecloak got nerfed by about 50% for it's shield so idk if it will still be as strong as it is now for higher keys. But good note on the trinkets!
I saw the 50% shield nerf but at 447 they now give 281 Verse when above 70% which adds to dps and reduces damage somewhat. Not sure how high the verse goes at 486 ilvl. That is why I thought it was going to be really good. Thanks again. Love your videos.@@arsynwho
@@bobbonner4195 thank you! Yeah totally get it, however that vers bonus also just got nerfed yesterday by 75%. So I don't think it will be nearly as good anymore.
Let's goooo. Any VOD enjoyers?? ;)
Mate heya! Thanks for the video and addons. I can't understand why I do like 40-50k single target having 440 ilvl. Demo can do like 70-80k
Is this build good for 1-15 M+ aswell or mostly for 20+ Keys?^^
Yeah absolutely, gluttony + dark harvest is solid for low keys. You don't have to worry much about not having cool downs or wasting them. However, as affliction we will always have a bit of ramp in our damage so if things die instantly sometimes it will feel bad. But this build will be great in low & high keys, in my opinion.
@@arsynwho thank you for your answer and help ^^ i appreciate that. I will try that out in the next season :D
I personally feel like Dark Harvest is extremely undertuned and basically not worth putting a point into. Darkglare sucks for sure, but feels nice on bossfights at least to extend the dots. So I had Darkglare and Crescendo skilled.
I mean considering Dark Harvest 100% stronger in Shadowlands while also having Dreamweaver's haste buff. Don't know why they refuse to buff it (They hate affliction)
Edit: Great video and I share your enthusiasm in playing a "bad" spec, which I love and am able to play really well
Amplify Curse should empower all existing curses, that would give Warlock so much more good utility for M+
They also nerfed Azureweave proc so it no longer scales with haste and its uptime dropped significantly.
Yeah, I think for me personally embellishments are a bit of a mess right now. I'm going to try verdant conduit for a while & see how it feels especially if more people in the group have it. Luckily we can always recraft if needed!
so after shadowlands nerf it looks like my affli is finally back
Yo can i get ur own-created plater profile?
It's available in my discord!
Good guide. Affliction actually is somewhere between A and S tier. Just because is not an easy spec doesnt mean is crazy reward.
Season 4 is here. you updated the guide. HUGE MISTAKE. Consider myself Rank 1 through 10 Affliction. You're days are over as top aff boi. Later Nerd
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i think this part dont buff 2 plus seeds, unfort became to live.. blizzard dont care about aff, just what big streamer say.. about demon.
Kalamazi For example only Demo.
So.. you start off by saying 10.2 is here. It's not. It's not out yet. Sure there is PTR. But things could change before it's released.
It's literally less than a week..