Just incase you still don't understand the orbs: the Orbs give you a debuff when they land that makes it so you take more dmg from the next orb. So the plan is that one immediatly gets exploded by not standing in it and the other gets staggered till the debuff runs out then you move out rinse and repeat till the fight ends
@@TheGr00salug And to be precise, the debuff last for 4 seconds. What i do (since playing a demolock this mechanic usually is my duty) is to just stand in one puddle and then basically stay in there till the end
Orbs used to be a LOT more dangerous at all key levels. The debuff would cause the next explosion to do 250% more damage. Now it just increases damage by 70% which trivializes mistakes provided they don’t keep happening all over the fight.
@@James_Johnson79 every orb that explodes wrong is a thing that prevents healers from doing dmg which is so valued in m+ that it also decides which healer is meta. Which is stupid imo but meh
@@BloodqueenLeonie it’s not the damage. Damage from healers hasn’t been a key limiting factor this expansion at all. Rather each season it’s been about mana efficiency, throughput and group buffs. If you look at any key pushing group what they’ll talk about is that they have the damage, but eventually just reach the point where they can’t survive the key.
As a quality of life tip for the Warlock pet being dismissed at the start of keys. Use fell domination during your countdown before you activate the key, the buff carries over and it makes you able to insta summon pet right as it starts.
the cast time for summon a demon is not over 10 seconds. When you put the key in and the mist wall is up you have 10 seconds to do anything you need to do to gain more damage. Every single time i useally soulwell > hardcast summon demon I still have 4 seconds at least to do anything else.
@@Dillisan i didnt direct that comment towards you. It was toward the person who we are commenting on. Also even if i would direct it to you i wouldnt mention this simple thing as it was clear that you are new, you simply havent played the class long enough to know certain tricks.
I look forward to this series every season. The fact that you do this on something you're not comfortable with makes it even better. Thanks for making these videos. I look forward to episode two.
I know this is an old video, but the rude msges you mentioned at around 9:00 onward is the exact reason why i only ever did one mythic+ dungeon. The overall experience as a new player was so shit. Coming from the incredibly friendly and social MMO Guild Wars 2, I was taken aback by how rude the average WoW player was... or at least the vocal ones
Yeah it really sucks, big ego's probably compensating for something else! It's not all like this though, there are some good players/communities out there, just gotta be lucky finding them. You're always welcome to join the community and if you're EU you can join us for some dungeons. BUT, if you think this one was bad, just wait for this Fridays video. It was without a doubt my worst experience since I started playing in The Burning Crusade.
Besides the not pressing Grimoire of Sacrifice throughout the video, you honestly did quite well for never having played (besides the like spamming unstable affliction but you acknowledged that so it's completely fine.) On AoE especially low keys all you really need to do is: Seed of Corruption > Unstable Affliction > Vile Taint > Soul Rot > Seed spam, and on low keys the pack should just explode. (Especially with the Soul Flame Talent where everything just explodes on death) In the above rotation you would use Darkglare after Soul Rot if you have it, but honestly with the talents you're running that expects you to be using the new tier Darkglare is pretty much a glorified DoT extender rather than a big damage cooldown like it was last tier with Neltharian trinket. As far as single target goes (that's honestly what I'm better at) Just get used to full dotting and keeping them up before worrying about anything else. Remember Malefic Rapture does more damage per DoT on the mob so maintaining the DoTs is the priority. Once you get that down, the key opener should be: Haunt > Unstable Affliction > Agony > Siphon Life > Corruption > Soul Drain to 3 stacks of it's buff (name is escaping me sorry) > Vile Taint > Soul Rot > Darkglare. Now it is a long list, but just remember all you're really doing is going down the list of your abilities and just pressing them one at a time. As far as shards go, just spend them more often. For most of the clips in the video you seemed to be sitting on 5 shards. Just spend all but one of them. because you don't have a designated builder and its more just chance until execute you wanna make sure you're not wasting a shard. But try to keep 1 at all times just in case. Especially if you're in Raid Setting and playing with the Dread Touch talent, as keeping that debuff up will be most of your damage. I am the worst explainer in the universe but I hope that some of this is understandable. Hope to see you succeed on what I think is the most fun spec in the game.
As a former aff main in shadowlands this was explained amazingly and I even visualized it in my head, dilli might have a bit of trouble but from an outside perspective this was amazingly explained and should def be a pinned comment or something close to it
Nah you did a great job explaining and everything you said I have somewhat been trying to do, it's the keybinds that have been messing me up cause the toolkit goes against everything I have been doing for over 16 years lol. I hope you see some improvement in the next one cause I feel like I have, but playing once a week on this character (and with my bad memory) will make this harder to improve :D. Grimoire of Sacrifice has already been fixed and talked about in the next one, don't worry. And yes, I make fun of myself once again cause I'm a derp xD I appreciate the time you've spent to write all this, means a lot. And I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks for watching
after seeing this comment, im glad, ill doing a lot right, since ill started affli about 2 weeks ago as twink. what i mostly fuck up, is the shards.. ill just spam them
Swap SR and VT in your opener, with the current tier set, SR is a longer DoT. You'll have a longer burn window with Rapture spam, because it's preferred to have as many DoTs as possible.
Warlock main here, Gate & Circle are incredible utilities that can skip certain packs in dungeons or help you reposition quickly. Some examples are putting your circle behind a wall or pillar to dodge LoS mechanics or avoid mob casts such as the grip from those mobs in Throne. Another way to use circle is to break roots & slows such as entangling, you don't even need to use soulburn to break entangling, which will save you a GCD & a shard.
Gate can be used to skip the last set of bears in DHT & that dragon after the second boss in Fall or used in Throne as you double back on yourself there. It's nice to help you avoid mechanics aswell or just as a movement ability between packs.
Hey! I very much appreciate all your input and I'll try and get better with utility going forward, but as I'm still wrapping my head about the rotation and keybinds this isn't my main priority right now xD I got dis!
It's probably already been explained since I'm 7 days late, but when an orb in Rise hits the ground it does a group wide AoE and leaves a debuff that makes any other orbs do more damage. Standing in the orbs slows their falling speed, so one person moves out to make that orb drop quick and the second person stays in the orb until debuff clears so the second orb doesn't do a ton more damage.
You want to make the no pet weak aura bigger and in the middle of your screen. The orbs in rise are easy, the one who stays in waits until the 4 second debuff drops off then moves out.
I actually went through 3 of these, but the fact I actually have to sacrifice my pet for additional damage (something I didn't even do in this video btw...), the text was still spamming me with "SUMMON PET" and it got really annoying. If anyone has one out there that works with sacrificing I would love it, but the one's I've found don't work the way I need it :
@Dillisan the orbs on chronolord are simple. One person runs out right away, the orb hits and soes damage, the other person stays in until the debuff drops from the first orb, the runs out. It only hurts if a second orb lamds before the debuff clears. The dbuff increases the damage you take from the orbs, so you just want the second orb to hit after the debuff falls off, which is 4 seconds long.
25:40, you want the orb debuff not to stack. Ie one stay in, the other go out -- the one that noone is in will drop to floor, give everybody a debuff. If the second orb hits during that first debuff, on higher keys its an instant wipe. So you want the second orb to drop after the first orbs debuff has worn off. So just dont stack the debuffs - nothing more. As you see in 25:58 you moved out when the debuff had 3 seconds left, you should've stayed 3 more seconds before moving out.
Thanks, I forced myself to learn this after and many have commented on how they work xD. Pure melee brain, barely have to deal with mechanics and let me team carry me >.> Appreciate your comment and hopefully you enjoyed my derps
9:30 Oh you sweet summer child. Where i come from behaviour like this is considered the pinnacle of politeness and good manners. Truly, your life must be blessed if this is the worst you encounter, thus you should cherish it.
I've been playing Mage in Dragonflight and I raid lead as well. Been talking to my melee raiders about how much more friendly melee is this tier than pretty much any other time I've seen in WoW. I think your video really helps illustrate this point and I REALLY enjoy your narrative choices. You earned a new sub on a first view, I like the cut of your jib.
Haha yeah, it looks like we (melee) have it much easier this season, not sure about other seasons though as I never play ranged. Though even as a melee I still don't know half of the mechanics in these dungeons, thank god for my team lol. Glad you enjoyed and appreciate the love! I enjoy putting myself down and pointing out my mistakes but it's also great for teaching others. I'm not the greatest player and I'm perfectly fine with that, if I can entertain or teach something then that's all that matters to me :) Much love
S1 Dragonflight was much more meele friendly. Don't know how you find this meele friendly when the dps meta sees Mage and Demo at the top with DH as the only meele.
@@putresces The "meta" has nothing to do with finding anything easy, I'm talking about mechanics for Season 3 Dungeons. Ranged seem to have far more to do and melee have it easy. I'm nearly 3.2 on my Havoc Demon Hunter so I think my opinion is valid but you're free to disagree ofc.
@@Dillisanim playing aug evoker rn only 2.9k score cause im still farming a ring from dht cause its the only mastery heavy ring this season which kinda leads me in a situation where im not really gaining score cause i still have only 20s in some dungeons but i can tell that the amount of baiting and mechanics i have to deal with are absolute ass and i still have it easy cause i have hover to move while casting. also im a mythic raider which is why im farming an item over score progging smolderon rn best pull was 25% soo far and i cannot express how much i await tindral
As affliction you get a fantastic bonus of not having to play a pet - summon the felhunter and then hit him with your grimoire of sacrifice, you get to keep the interrupt and then your abilities have a chance to do some additional dmg - no more wondering why your kick didn't go off because the felhunter is running across the map :D
Fyi for everyone. As an aff lock, when moving its almost always best to reapply dots. This just saves globals later, and can make sure you have high timers on them to pump when you stop moving. The only possible exception is if youre running pandemic invocation, where you do a small amount of dmg when apply dots under 5 seconds remaining. Honestly though, even in this case i think the saved globals end up being a higher amount of dmg. Also corruption always does a small amount of damage when applied. Its really not much but when there is nothing else worthwhile it can allow you to do some amount of dmg while moving.
More than anything i appreciate you calling my favorite spec the worst designed spec in the game for M+(it’s designed poorly in general) Why? Because if enough ppl say otherwise maybe Blizzard will fix it.
It's a personal opinion based on it's playstyle but the population of the spec kinda backs me up along with it's performance. I would love to see some form of rework and make all specs somewhat viable for all style of content but the reality is, that may never be possible. Thank god I don't have balance anything lol
@@Dillisan i hop between Aff and Shadow a lot. i could tell you before i even watched the video that Aff's core issues are that it takes too much setup and you lose too much single target speccing into M+ build. Devs keep buffing it but aren't fixing the core issue.
@@Malix2238 I actually like the feeling of playing something not so many are, maybe I continue with Aff! It does feel like they could do with a slight rework though, but that's my opinion ofc.
If you use Soulburn first, your gate will be cast instantly instead of having to wait. Warlock is my main and I love it but I agree I’m tired of players telling me what to do and when to do it. Like I’m aware of how to play my class lol. Enjoy Warlock as they are very fun and tanky!
My entire UI is free to download via the Discord, you can find a full list of everything else I sue on there too. Sometimes I add the build I'm using but an entire list makes the descriptions look incredibly bloated and messy so I'd rather not.
the two soaks in the end one should just explode right away,. the other you can move out when the debuff is dropped off they always hurt but they hurt a lot when one goes off with the debuff still one the debuff is only about 4 seconds or so.
This is so cool! I was kinda burned out of wow for a few monts and started again like two days ago. Instead of shaman I decided to level my, guess what, undead affliction warlock. Always loved your videos man, looking forward to following this series, as I struggle myself to get anywhere as an affli
As affliction you should be sacrificing your pet for the extra damage. I believe last season they changed how sacrifice works so you can do it before the key and you keep the buff. Just make sure you key bind the pet kick as you gain that ability
sometimes i feel like if a class clicks with you u will understand it and play it decent from the getgo . For me because i like it it was very easy to understand it and play it from the start.
@@Kussi_Slayer I tunnel so hard due to my ADHD, if it's something I don't have to deal with it gets forgotten. My memory is also very bad so if I take a week off of M+ I will likely forget the stuff I do have to deal with lol. Thank god I have a team that carry me twice a week xD
@@Dillisan haha fair enough. but atleast that does mean, that playing a range is almost like playing an entire different game for you. So thats something to look forward to for sure! hope you enjoy the ride
@@Kussi_Slayer Yeah honestly it's refreshing man, highly recommend. Come check me out when I'm live, you'll see how bad I am for a player with 3.1 rating :P
I would argue that until you reach high keys it is. The ramping of dots and everything dying too fast is awful. But we're all entitled to our own opinion and that's fine. If Affliction isn't, what would you say is? Maybe I can do that one in the future :D
@@Dillisan honestly I’m not sure what the worst is. The ramping of dots is sort of fixed by many of their talents. They are actually quite bursty due to their last talent on the left side of the tree. Can’t remember what it is called.
Hey Dilly, I picked up Affliction warlock today too in some bizarre coincidence. One affliction newb to another, I suggest to take Grimoire atleast in the early dungeons, because of the whole pet shenaningans, and because, unless you actively need the interrupt from the felhound, the 10% extra damage just seems to do wonder.
You can Macro Soulburn and Gate together. So you will have your instant gates as long as you have a shard. Also get the gate control toy so you don't have to click the gates. Don't forget that Death coil isn't just a fear. Its also a solid heal. So using it on mobs or bosses is a great way to pump some HP back in. Vile taint is great for opening on trash then seed spam usually 3 or more mobs you seed if I remember correctly. Meh your getting it. I honestly don't enjoy aff after playing Spriest this expansion. Aff lock needs some serious redesigns to make it play more like Spriest's. Quality of life improvements are seriously needed with the spec.
I very much appreciate your input, some of what you've said I'm now aware of as this episode is a week behind and episode 2 has already been recorded. Hopefully next week you will "some" improvements xD I stand by my statement in being the worst designed spec for M+. But in higher keys I think it can do really well. I very much agree on a redesign if they want it to be suitable for all styles of content.
loved affli back in shadowlands with the introduction to double legendary, but these days its just too much work to do mediocre damage when you can just play demo and press a few buttons to just do double the damage :/
I just did an LFR raid for the first wing of Amirdrassil. Been getting back into tanking and I didn't do too well tbh. Got a whisper telling me I should unalive myself and just stick to watching others play. Easiest report of my life.
Playing a warlock reminds me of the way crests are set up. You need 15 to upgrade, but you get 12. You need 3 soul shards to cast a spender, but you get 2. Then while you’re waiting for the third, you proc 4 more so you’re over capped. That was my limited experience with one, dropped it pretty fast lol
Just something that I like to do with my 1st vault when playing with a bad gear character: I like to get the 6 tokens, and turn then into crest, then get this crest and craft some 476 item. I think that this worth more than the 441~447 itens that we get from lfr and other similar things.
I typically only PvP but my 2 friends started playing again and they only PvE. So, I thought it'd be fun to tank the dungeons for them. Can't tell you how many people flamed them in low keys for low damage, or left a key because they died once. Now, we are up to 15's and just this week, a healer died once and left. Again in the 14, a dps died and left.
That sucks man, I'm sorry to hear you've gone through all this toxicity. I've had my fair share in M+ but nothing like I experienced in this raid, that was out of nowhere.
"Starting a key dismisses your pet" Yeah, us Warlocks have been complaining about that one for years. You have enough time to summon and mount up, but it does feel like you start every key off on the wrong foot.
I started my WoW journey as a mage this time around, I played a long time ago but came back maybe 3 months ago, since then I've made a Warrior and a DH and realize that I totally agree with you, being a melee based class is just more fun to me.
My favorite low-geared alt experience was being invited to a key lvl that i def shouldn't have been because of my iLvl. I was summoned, asked for mage table, and kick after everyone took biscuits.
i was joking with my guildies when i told them i want to bring my baddie warlock to our weekly raid. turns out i become our dedicated summoner and one thing i need to pay attention is 'when to open closet and bring out the cookies'. i play demo and im happy doin around 100k dps with ilvl 462. but tbh i dont enjoy playing warlock
I wanted the community to vote for Demo purely because I saw a friend play it a long time ago and exploding imps looked hilarious xD. But Affliction is what they chose cause they like to see me suffer...jokes on them, I will dominate the M+ scene! Just, no more RISE >.>
so if you really did just copy the talent build off wowhead or somewhere it should have grimoire sacrifice, with a book icon. You need to use that to sacrifice your pet because it is a decent damage increase, and it allows you to have an interrupt if you sacrifice the interrupt pet.
I did but I didn't prep the character properly and like mentioned, Episode 1 was day 1 & 2 playing the Warlock. There's far too much to take in so I was bound to mess loads up and not know certain things. I somewhat fixed this in the 2nd Episode...I hope! >.>
About the raid thing idk man. Last season I pugged aotc on my alt warlock at 409 ilvl with a 10% average parse for the four bosses I was in the group. The group listing said something like “desperate for a lock”, and I signed up with the message “how desperate are you?”. From my point of view, I would be doing negative damage so that’s not my job, and I’m only there to put down cookies and summon people quickly so people don’t get bored waiting around. So even if I didn’t do damage, I tried to be proactive as hell with summoning people, the raidlead noticed and whispered me promising not to kick me because he was happy not having to ask for summon stones. He didn’t kick me and no one even ever suggested kicking me even when we got 440 ilvl locks on nelth and sark because I was doing the things I got invited for. Immediately putting cookies and putting a portal down the moment trash was done, without even thinking before anyone could ever ask. “lock is sleeping” I’d see as a joking reminder to do my job as a 0 damage lock, and the whispers to me feel like frustration after not getting the hint and “was I asked” screams ego to me which is fine if your damage was actually good. But it’s hard to actually judge without seeing actual footage and context, how long you were waiting around for etc.
Well the whispers came in not even 30 seconds after the message in raid chat and I only just got to the group after making my way. They opened up the group and invited 1 player, then these messages came out straight away. I was going to put up a stone cause it was obvious to me that these are the reasons they'd take a poorly geared Warlock, if I can't contribute much in terms of damage then I know what I can be useful for. But I won't make any excuses for treating any player like this, it's just wrong.
I love the "you'll see a lot of mistakes throughout this series" commented on top of a clip of an entire dungeon without sacrificing the pet with grim sac. ^-^ Edit: I just noticed that you didn't use grim sac the whole video. I'm sure someone else has mentioned it but affliction runs a talent called Grimoire of Sacrifice (over on the right side of the spec tree). cast this to kill your pet and gain their ability (kick from felhunter normally in dungeons). instead of your pet attacking, it just procs damage while you use abilities. The hidden benefit of this is that starting a key will not remove the buff associated to sacrificing your pet. However, you will need to resummon it when you die. ON THAT NOTE. you can use the spell "fel domination" every couple of minutes to giga-speed up your pet summon cast (like down to 0.5s or something). This is great to use after you get battle rezzed or if you realize you forgot to get your pet/grim sac out. It's super janky, but if you get brezzed you're gonna hit "Fel domination", "Summon Felhunter", "Grimoire of Sacrifice" then go about your business. I love aff lock whether it's bad or good. as a Rogue main it's the only ranged class that feels somewhat familiar to assas. Excited to see your progression! Affliction doesn't feel too terrible right now but requires some very big pull on very high keys to really ramp up the damage. and the single target is pretty tragic. Buff coming next week though!
Oh it doesn't end there haha. Like I said, I have no idea and it shows. This makes the curve or progression and success that much better imo. Yeah I'm hoping higher keys make this spec feel so much better and let's be honest, a good player can play anything to a decent level, Aff included :). Oh I saw these buffs and got really excited! Time to dominate!
Also for orbs: 2 orbs go out and start crashing to the ground. standing under them slows them down. When an orb lands it does some damage and applies a debuff to the whole party that increases damage taken from orbs by a LOT. So you let one land right away. you stand in the other one to delay it until the debuff falls off then let it land. you actually did it correctly on almost every orb set except the one that killed the healer. you'll always take damage from the orbs but the standing in them you did saved a lot of damage on the group.
@@Shmeeps_phd Hahaha, thank you for your input. I understand orbs now but didn't when I did this. I knew damage would go out but felt I was getting this completely wrong. I noticed after that the Druid was actually doing a good job on most of them. The Druid was a returning player and did great, stuck with me for a few. Rise will be my new enemy :D
I really miss old school affliction, especially during wrath. They tried to bring it back, but instead of SB and drain at 20%, you're pretty much always using drain...
Hi, random question.. Could you let me know the font you are using for your unitframes and nameplates in this video? They look really clean. I already grabbed your ElvUI and plater profiles from your discord but the fonts don't quite seem to match up with what's in this video. Thank you!
I have a few more lined up, one for RUclips and the rest will be live on Twitch. Season 4 will be my melee season though as it's the last role left. The community will vote for the specs they want me to play on the Discord near the end of Season 3. I'll be playing whatever they vote for :D
Just stumbled across this channel, love the editing and commentary. Sorry if this has been asked but what unit frames do you use? They look clean as fuck and I am in love, doesn't look like elvui though
I don't play warlock (sp's here), but shouldn't aff warlock be better off in higher keys since everything lives longer and also aff warlock has great self heal from his spells (at least it was like that earlier)
@@aslkdmskfm not necessarily. Pre buff it was bad only good during our burst window every 30 sec from our soul rot. But the sustained aoe was subpar. Now he got buffed and it’s hell of a lot better. Especially in higher keys
it honestly feels bad to play affliction even at 16 for me, unless it's 20+ is the only time I will play affliction and usually only if it's fortified, so mobs actually live long enough with all our dots. gateway is instant with soulburn but takes muscle memory/knowledge also a great macro for an instant full heal /cast Soulburn /use Healthstone Soulburn healthstone is 50% increase in healing I do believe. you could do the same with gateway /cast Soulburn /cast [@cursor] Demonic Gateway or remove [@cursor] if you like to see the aim of it better.
Yeah it feels pretty blah when everything just dies and you're still dotting targets xD. Higher keys should be so much better. Appreciate the tips, I have made notes :D
This is very interesting!. As a player that is coming back to wow and is kind of scared of it due to reddit toxic claiming posts is very nice to see stuff actually happening! Im subbing so i can see the rest of it
I love this, thank you for leaving such a wonderful comment and I'm super happy you enjoyed! I tend to be mostly family friendly as we've got some young ones within the community, Dilli needs to set a good example :)
ayyo, u mind telling me what kind of weakauras ur running to make ur ui looks like that with the unitframes for example because i guess its not all elvui
Man as warlock main that trick is that you dont give a damn what everyone is talking. Your moment is when you get gear and let the dmg speak for you :P
Awsome video😃I can confirm there is alot of toxicity out there as a pug player, but there is also the oposite😀 been called alot of not so nice things but it is what it is
What? I love Afflication in M+. With the 4er Set Boni and Doom Blossom, Seed of Corruption deals a Tons of Damage on the Trash. Together with Vile Taint and Soul Rot pretty funny.
i used to get roasted by people in heroic dungeons as an ele shaman because I didn't have the tier set yet and the tanks were pulling the entire map and I couldn't cast and run at the same time. it was not fun.
Never played Aff lock before, decided i wanted to lvl and alt and honestly, for leveling out in the world i feel like Aff is the best spec of any class. I can gather a whole zone with agony, have voidwalker tank them when they get close and once they all group up i just seed of corruption which blows them up and they are usually all dead after that. Compared to leveling as most other classes/speccs, this was best, 2nd for me is havoc DH
i played affliction at the beginning of season 2 and got A LOT of hate in keys (usually 15's) and it always sucked, because the class is so fun but it's just so behind /: massive respect for running aff for real
Mythic Raider here, as someone who helps people in heroic guilds that are either on my btag or I’ve just met in keys and enjoyed playing with them, you are obviously miles ahead of the majority of heroic raiders. ElvUI and Weakauras are not things many people run in these guilds for whatever reason, so I will say regardless of how bad you felt you did at affliction early on, you still are probably miles better than quite a few who use nothing at all, even at 420-430 ilvl. I’m sure since your main was 3071 when u showed it, that obviously you have a bit more of a high end content tendency than you may even realize. This was some nice content, keep it up!
One other minor detail in case other people in comments may be wondering, Mythic raiders may seem intimidating if you are only in normal/heroic, but tbh they are least toxic community of WoW players I’ve come across in my 14 years of playing the game. Everyone is too busy doing their own thing, researching fights, playing other games, etc. to really care as much about performance. An anecdote from earlier tonight: I was pugging a Black Rook Hold 17 on my 3014 io warrior, which I’ve timed 24 Tyrannical Throne of the tides and 24 fall on, so those are displayed on my io. All of that was on arms, but fury is better so i swapped to that. I had no issues getting an invite, but the group leader, a havoc DH, who had 17s timed but 1400 io, presumably a new toon, was gatekeeping people and being genuinely elitist for his key. I understand havoc is FoTM right now, but to be honest, he declined a 465 priest with like 1700 score paired with a BM hunter 477 who is like 2700. He cited that the priest had only done 13s and he didnt want a player like that in his 17. Fair enough I thought to myself, so imagine my surprise when this 460 DH did 35k on bosses and 64.7k overall on the key. He/she was an absolute carry, and has no business attempting to gatekeep anything, but alas, thats the “tryhard” range it seems like. Anyway the TLDR of this is basically, mythic raiders and high io players aren’t scary and if you run with them you should ask if they’d like to do more content, or just chill and do some other keys, because a lot of us don’t really care as much about anyone else’s performance as much as our own as long as you aren’t super toxic. Who knows, you may even learn something to improve your own gameplay :)
Hey. Thank you for taking the time to write these comments, I very much appreciate this and I'm glad you enjoyed the content. I've played on and off since TBH have mainly been a Heroic Raider, I dipped into Mythic in Season 1 for the very first time just to see if I was capable, turns out it wasn't much different and I performed very well. But since Season 1 where I dipped into M+ for the first time (properly anyway) and this channel took off, I have stopped Raiding so much and focused on M+. I've tried staying away from Elv as much as I can but I much prefer it over anything else. Personal preference at the end of the day. Everything else I use is what helps me, such as WA's and the soundpack that comes with it announcing me to move, stack, adds etc. This helps massively due to my ADHD and poor focus at times. I actually replaced the sounds and asked my 8 year old to record replacements, they are SO MUCH better than the robotic defaults (made available to my Patreons & Twitch subs for anyone wondering!). Like I mentioned in the video, this was my FIRST day playing a Warlock let alone a button bloat spec with with a playstyle that's incredible different to anything I've played for the past 15 years. I am closing in on 3.2 on my Havoc Demon Hunter which I've mained since Legion, I'm no FOTM player and have played it regardless of the meta. I've timed a couple of 25's this season so far and everything else is close behind so I have some experience. I put myself down and make fun of myself in these videos for entertainment purposes mostly but to also highlight mistakes that could be sued as a learning experience to someone else. I don't consider myself an amazing player and I'm fine with this, but I'm way above average and sometimes I forget this. I don't care about the meta and like to give the player a chance, more players should do this too. My M+ team consists of a BM Monk, a MW Monk and a BM Hunter. Whilst those specs are doing great this season, last season was far from it. We've timed some 24's without an Aug Evoker this season but we do feel the difference at that level and pushing higher we'd almost always want one. Everything else we can somewhat make work and everything is viable to my key level, but meta will always be a thing. There are some friendly players at the high levels but there are also some incredibly toxic players at that level too, so I wouldn't personally say it's less toxic at a higher level, there's just less players at that level. The last part resembles something I also mention from time to time. Playing with players better than you is great (for me at least) cause it makes me push harder and you can learn so much from them. I've done this with the team I put together, they're all far better than me as a player (imo anyway) and I've learnt so much since I started playing with them. But it's also nice to give back and be that guy, help others when you can and I do this a lot too. Anyways, I'm glad you enjoyed and I appreciate your comment
I appreciate the thought provoking comment here, and I think one other thing people don't think about a lot is many of the very end game players have played for a long time so there is a deep experience pool compared to newer players. I have played since TBC for instance so the knowledge I have of the game is very old, compared to a player who started in SL or DF, the game sense will always be something that can't be taught. However, this is why, as you said running with players better than you is beneficial, because it can teach the newer players proper play and break bad habits. I raid 5 days a week atm, my main guild just killed M Smolderon last night, and they are all far better players than I am but I have learned so much from them since joining in S1 of DF for VoTI. My weekend group is also a mythic raid team however, they are far less progressed as they have less time (6 hours vs 12 hours a week) and while many of those players have past CEs and Hall of Fames, they have ended up moving on in life and taking a more casual approach while still wanting to mythic raid. Surrounding yourself with as many good player perspectives as possible has been my personal key to improvement, since I consider myself significantly better than I was in Shadowlands or BFA for instance.
I'm a warlock main and do my weekly 20s as Affliction for fun. Is it as good as Demo? No. But it's not that bad. You could be doing quite a lot more damage with the proper talents and rotation. And you can pump bosses on tyrannical with Dread Touch and Tormented Crescendos.
lets be honnest. im pumping with my affliction lock somewhat above 170k overall in 25. keys.. i mean. the adds live longer there. makes sense to me. dots on adds that live like 4-5 sec dont make sense. instead just put up agony and seed the whole time. with shadowflame talent on low keys. does more dmg in addpacks.
Just incase you still don't understand the orbs: the Orbs give you a debuff when they land that makes it so you take more dmg from the next orb. So the plan is that one immediatly gets exploded by not standing in it and the other gets staggered till the debuff runs out then you move out rinse and repeat till the fight ends
Yea. You will always take damage from both. The mechanic is to space them out so you don't take it too close together while you still have the debuff.
@@TheGr00salug
And to be precise, the debuff last for 4 seconds. What i do (since playing a demolock this mechanic usually is my duty) is to just stand in one puddle and then basically stay in there till the end
Orbs used to be a LOT more dangerous at all key levels.
The debuff would cause the next explosion to do 250% more damage.
Now it just increases damage by 70% which trivializes mistakes provided they don’t keep happening all over the fight.
@@James_Johnson79 every orb that explodes wrong is a thing that prevents healers from doing dmg which is so valued in m+ that it also decides which healer is meta. Which is stupid imo but meh
@@BloodqueenLeonie it’s not the damage. Damage from healers hasn’t been a key limiting factor this expansion at all.
Rather each season it’s been about mana efficiency, throughput and group buffs.
If you look at any key pushing group what they’ll talk about is that they have the damage, but eventually just reach the point where they can’t survive the key.
As a quality of life tip for the Warlock pet being dismissed at the start of keys. Use fell domination during your countdown before you activate the key, the buff carries over and it makes you able to insta summon pet right as it starts.
A community member told me this also but I fixed it for Episode 2 (I think lol). Appreciate the tips, keep em coming
the cast time for summon a demon is not over 10 seconds.
When you put the key in and the mist wall is up you have 10 seconds to do anything you need to do to gain more damage.
Every single time i useally soulwell > hardcast summon demon
I still have 4 seconds at least to do anything else.
@@bonkyouded No one said it was 10 seconds? It's just the fact that I'm new to the Warlock and very forgetful.
@@Dillisan i didnt direct that comment towards you.
It was toward the person who we are commenting on.
Also even if i would direct it to you i wouldnt mention this simple thing as it was clear that you are new, you simply havent played the class long enough to know certain tricks.
you can also just cast eye killrog if ur in the cast or channeling it when key gets put in ur pet dosnt dissapear at all
I look forward to this series every season. The fact that you do this on something you're not comfortable with makes it even better. Thanks for making these videos. I look forward to episode two.
If it's not a melee dps, I STRUGGLE xD. I did good on the orbs though, right? Haha. Glad you enjoyed, much love
I know this is an old video, but the rude msges you mentioned at around 9:00 onward is the exact reason why i only ever did one mythic+ dungeon. The overall experience as a new player was so shit. Coming from the incredibly friendly and social MMO Guild Wars 2, I was taken aback by how rude the average WoW player was... or at least the vocal ones
Yeah it really sucks, big ego's probably compensating for something else! It's not all like this though, there are some good players/communities out there, just gotta be lucky finding them. You're always welcome to join the community and if you're EU you can join us for some dungeons.
BUT, if you think this one was bad, just wait for this Fridays video. It was without a doubt my worst experience since I started playing in The Burning Crusade.
Besides the not pressing Grimoire of Sacrifice throughout the video, you honestly did quite well for never having played (besides the like spamming unstable affliction but you acknowledged that so it's completely fine.) On AoE especially low keys all you really need to do is: Seed of Corruption > Unstable Affliction > Vile Taint > Soul Rot > Seed spam, and on low keys the pack should just explode. (Especially with the Soul Flame Talent where everything just explodes on death)
In the above rotation you would use Darkglare after Soul Rot if you have it, but honestly with the talents you're running that expects you to be using the new tier Darkglare is pretty much a glorified DoT extender rather than a big damage cooldown like it was last tier with Neltharian trinket.
As far as single target goes (that's honestly what I'm better at) Just get used to full dotting and keeping them up before worrying about anything else. Remember Malefic Rapture does more damage per DoT on the mob so maintaining the DoTs is the priority.
Once you get that down, the key opener should be: Haunt > Unstable Affliction > Agony > Siphon Life > Corruption > Soul Drain to 3 stacks of it's buff (name is escaping me sorry) > Vile Taint > Soul Rot > Darkglare.
Now it is a long list, but just remember all you're really doing is going down the list of your abilities and just pressing them one at a time.
As far as shards go, just spend them more often. For most of the clips in the video you seemed to be sitting on 5 shards. Just spend all but one of them. because you don't have a designated builder and its more just chance until execute you wanna make sure you're not wasting a shard. But try to keep 1 at all times just in case. Especially if you're in Raid Setting and playing with the Dread Touch talent, as keeping that debuff up will be most of your damage.
I am the worst explainer in the universe but I hope that some of this is understandable. Hope to see you succeed on what I think is the most fun spec in the game.
I honestly thought afffli just dropped the talent while watching the vid
As a former aff main in shadowlands this was explained amazingly and I even visualized it in my head, dilli might have a bit of trouble but from an outside perspective this was amazingly explained and should def be a pinned comment or something close to it
Nah you did a great job explaining and everything you said I have somewhat been trying to do, it's the keybinds that have been messing me up cause the toolkit goes against everything I have been doing for over 16 years lol. I hope you see some improvement in the next one cause I feel like I have, but playing once a week on this character (and with my bad memory) will make this harder to improve :D.
Grimoire of Sacrifice has already been fixed and talked about in the next one, don't worry. And yes, I make fun of myself once again cause I'm a derp xD
I appreciate the time you've spent to write all this, means a lot. And I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching
after seeing this comment, im glad, ill doing a lot right, since ill started affli about 2 weeks ago as twink.
what i mostly fuck up, is the shards.. ill just spam them
Swap SR and VT in your opener, with the current tier set, SR is a longer DoT. You'll have a longer burn window with Rapture spam, because it's preferred to have as many DoTs as possible.
Warlock main here, Gate & Circle are incredible utilities that can skip certain packs in dungeons or help you reposition quickly. Some examples are putting your circle behind a wall or pillar to dodge LoS mechanics or avoid mob casts such as the grip from those mobs in Throne. Another way to use circle is to break roots & slows such as entangling, you don't even need to use soulburn to break entangling, which will save you a GCD & a shard.
Gate can be used to skip the last set of bears in DHT & that dragon after the second boss in Fall or used in Throne as you double back on yourself there. It's nice to help you avoid mechanics aswell or just as a movement ability between packs.
Hey! I very much appreciate all your input and I'll try and get better with utility going forward, but as I'm still wrapping my head about the rotation and keybinds this isn't my main priority right now xD I got dis!
soulburn is off the gcd
You right, that slipped my mind.
It's probably already been explained since I'm 7 days late, but when an orb in Rise hits the ground it does a group wide AoE and leaves a debuff that makes any other orbs do more damage. Standing in the orbs slows their falling speed, so one person moves out to make that orb drop quick and the second person stays in the orb until debuff clears so the second orb doesn't do a ton more damage.
Yeah I know this now but I appreciate your comment nonetheless :D
You want to make the no pet weak aura bigger and in the middle of your screen.
The orbs in rise are easy, the one who stays in waits until the 4 second debuff drops off then moves out.
I actually went through 3 of these, but the fact I actually have to sacrifice my pet for additional damage (something I didn't even do in this video btw...), the text was still spamming me with "SUMMON PET" and it got really annoying. If anyone has one out there that works with sacrificing I would love it, but the one's I've found don't work the way I need it :
As a main Affliction I cannot hide the pain and misery while watching this video, keep it up!
Oh noes, look away now! Don't judge me too much :P
i am main too, and was thinking in say this, but aty least he tried to play with the spec;;; for me is one of the best,,,
@Dillisan the orbs on chronolord are simple. One person runs out right away, the orb hits and soes damage, the other person stays in until the debuff drops from the first orb, the runs out. It only hurts if a second orb lamds before the debuff clears. The dbuff increases the damage you take from the orbs, so you just want the second orb to hit after the debuff falls off, which is 4 seconds long.
25:40, you want the orb debuff not to stack.
Ie one stay in, the other go out -- the one that noone is in will drop to floor, give everybody a debuff. If the second orb hits during that first debuff, on higher keys its an instant wipe.
So you want the second orb to drop after the first orbs debuff has worn off. So just dont stack the debuffs - nothing more. As you see in 25:58 you moved out when the debuff had 3 seconds left, you should've stayed 3 more seconds before moving out.
Thanks, I forced myself to learn this after and many have commented on how they work xD. Pure melee brain, barely have to deal with mechanics and let me team carry me >.>
Appreciate your comment and hopefully you enjoyed my derps
9:30
Oh you sweet summer child.
Where i come from behaviour like this is considered the pinnacle of politeness and good manners.
Truly, your life must be blessed if this is the worst you encounter, thus you should cherish it.
This dude is softer than baby shit. I can't imagine being so emotional soft that this is considered toxic and leaving over it.
I've been playing Mage in Dragonflight and I raid lead as well. Been talking to my melee raiders about how much more friendly melee is this tier than pretty much any other time I've seen in WoW. I think your video really helps illustrate this point and I REALLY enjoy your narrative choices. You earned a new sub on a first view, I like the cut of your jib.
Haha yeah, it looks like we (melee) have it much easier this season, not sure about other seasons though as I never play ranged. Though even as a melee I still don't know half of the mechanics in these dungeons, thank god for my team lol.
Glad you enjoyed and appreciate the love! I enjoy putting myself down and pointing out my mistakes but it's also great for teaching others. I'm not the greatest player and I'm perfectly fine with that, if I can entertain or teach something then that's all that matters to me :)
Much love
S1 Dragonflight was much more meele friendly. Don't know how you find this meele friendly when the dps meta sees Mage and Demo at the top with DH as the only meele.
@@putresces The "meta" has nothing to do with finding anything easy, I'm talking about mechanics for Season 3 Dungeons. Ranged seem to have far more to do and melee have it easy. I'm nearly 3.2 on my Havoc Demon Hunter so I think my opinion is valid but you're free to disagree ofc.
@@Dillisanim playing aug evoker rn only 2.9k score cause im still farming a ring from dht cause its the only mastery heavy ring this season which kinda leads me in a situation where im not really gaining score cause i still have only 20s in some dungeons but i can tell that the amount of baiting and mechanics i have to deal with are absolute ass and i still have it easy cause i have hover to move while casting. also im a mythic raider which is why im farming an item over score progging smolderon rn best pull was 25% soo far and i cannot express how much i await tindral
demon hunters when they have to play a real class:
I'm hurt xD
You can get 450 aberrus tier set in 2 weeks almost for free with timerift and dreamsure tokens
I actually knew about this but chose not to, no idea why >.>
@@Dillisan maybe you like to suffer ^^
As affliction you get a fantastic bonus of not having to play a pet - summon the felhunter and then hit him with your grimoire of sacrifice, you get to keep the interrupt and then your abilities have a chance to do some additional dmg - no more wondering why your kick didn't go off because the felhunter is running across the map :D
Yeah...I learned this on day 3 after I finished recording xD
HOLY MOLEY DOUGHNUT SHOP!!! Hay buddy! you are top flight security guards! :)
Hahaha YES! Maybe Santa robs me of loot in the next one >.>
Fyi for everyone. As an aff lock, when moving its almost always best to reapply dots. This just saves globals later, and can make sure you have high timers on them to pump when you stop moving.
The only possible exception is if youre running pandemic invocation, where you do a small amount of dmg when apply dots under 5 seconds remaining. Honestly though, even in this case i think the saved globals end up being a higher amount of dmg. Also corruption always does a small amount of damage when applied. Its really not much but when there is nothing else worthwhile it can allow you to do some amount of dmg while moving.
More than anything i appreciate you calling my favorite spec the worst designed spec in the game for M+(it’s designed poorly in general) Why? Because if enough ppl say otherwise maybe Blizzard will fix it.
It's a personal opinion based on it's playstyle but the population of the spec kinda backs me up along with it's performance. I would love to see some form of rework and make all specs somewhat viable for all style of content but the reality is, that may never be possible. Thank god I don't have balance anything lol
@@Dillisan i hop between Aff and Shadow a lot. i could tell you before i even watched the video that Aff's core issues are that it takes too much setup and you lose too much single target speccing into M+ build. Devs keep buffing it but aren't fixing the core issue.
@@Malix2238 I actually like the feeling of playing something not so many are, maybe I continue with Aff! It does feel like they could do with a slight rework though, but that's my opinion ofc.
If you use Soulburn first, your gate will be cast instantly instead of having to wait. Warlock is my main and I love it but I agree I’m tired of players telling me what to do and when to do it. Like I’m aware of how to play my class lol. Enjoy Warlock as they are very fun and tanky!
I figured this out after but I'm still terrible with the utility :D. Glad you enjoyed and thanks for the tips
What addons do you use?
And also, if you get this question a lot, consider putting a simple addon list in the description, it would help out a lot!
My entire UI is free to download via the Discord, you can find a full list of everything else I sue on there too. Sometimes I add the build I'm using but an entire list makes the descriptions look incredibly bloated and messy so I'd rather not.
hi, i really enjoyed your vid, but i was wondering if you could share your ui settings? it looks really clean!
You can find everything on the Discord, completely FREE (apart from my soundpack made by my kid, that's only available to Patreons/Twitch subs)
@@Dillisan AWESOME tyvm!
the two soaks in the end one should just explode right away,. the other you can move out when the debuff is dropped off they always hurt but they hurt a lot when one goes off with the debuff still one the debuff is only about 4 seconds or so.
What's more annoying than people exlecting you to drop a portal as soon as possible is when you do put the portal down and nobody helps you summon
I'll pretend to be AFK next time >.>
0dps, unlimited cookies!
I stayed true to my word >.>
This is so cool! I was kinda burned out of wow for a few monts and started again like two days ago. Instead of shaman I decided to level my, guess what, undead affliction warlock.
Always loved your videos man, looking forward to following this series, as I struggle myself to get anywhere as an affli
As affliction you should be sacrificing your pet for the extra damage. I believe last season they changed how sacrifice works so you can do it before the key and you keep the buff. Just make sure you key bind the pet kick as you gain that ability
Yeah yeah yeah, 34934083 of you have told me this now, I'm a dumb dumb xD
@@Dillisan We all have to start somewhere with a new spec
sometimes i feel like if a class clicks with you u will understand it and play it decent from the getgo . For me because i like it it was very easy to understand it and play it from the start.
Oh yeah and anything can be played to a very high level. I'll get there, I am determined to smash this and get much better with Aff :)
if you are specced into sacrifice grimoire make sure you use the spell :) its a big help in dps
Yeah...I fixed this for Episode 2 lol
Brother ain't no way you're playing that high on a demon hunter and never realised that those orbs actually do damage. This is hilarious :'D
I've never had to deal with them, what do you expect from a Demon Hunter? I even did RISE on a 22 BEFORE the nerfs, it was pretty brutal though xD
@@Dillisan yea thats what i was thinking. surely you had to figure that this allways happens. :D
@@Kussi_Slayer I tunnel so hard due to my ADHD, if it's something I don't have to deal with it gets forgotten. My memory is also very bad so if I take a week off of M+ I will likely forget the stuff I do have to deal with lol. Thank god I have a team that carry me twice a week xD
@@Dillisan haha fair enough. but atleast that does mean, that playing a range is almost like playing an entire different game for you. So thats something to look forward to for sure! hope you enjoy the ride
@@Kussi_Slayer Yeah honestly it's refreshing man, highly recommend. Come check me out when I'm live, you'll see how bad I am for a player with 3.1 rating :P
I'm not sure affliction is the worst designed spec for mythic plus. Actually, that isn't true
I would argue that until you reach high keys it is. The ramping of dots and everything dying too fast is awful. But we're all entitled to our own opinion and that's fine. If Affliction isn't, what would you say is? Maybe I can do that one in the future :D
@@Dillisan honestly I’m not sure what the worst is.
The ramping of dots is sort of fixed by many of their talents. They are actually quite bursty due to their last talent on the left side of the tree. Can’t remember what it is called.
@@Dillisan watch Kalamazi’s video on affliction that just came out, he called it one of the burstiest AOE specs in the game now.
For accessibility/newcomer friendliness, Affliction is AWFUL. Does it meaningfully exist if it can only truly shine in high keys?
@@SaltyKeldion I mean, it exists :D but I get your point. I can't wait to test this in much higher keys but I need a lot of practice and gear first
9:43 my usual answer for that is: "Watch yo tone bozo" followed by a "cry about it" should they continue
Hey Dilly, I picked up Affliction warlock today too in some bizarre coincidence. One affliction newb to another, I suggest to take Grimoire atleast in the early dungeons, because of the whole pet shenaningans, and because, unless you actively need the interrupt from the felhound, the 10% extra damage just seems to do wonder.
Book is outright meta from what I saw, especially because of the kick but also for raids if u use imp / VW for the dispel/stam(?)
You get the pet ability
I fixed this in Episode 2, don't worry xD appreciate the comment though
You can Macro Soulburn and Gate together. So you will have your instant gates as long as you have a shard. Also get the gate control toy so you don't have to click the gates. Don't forget that Death coil isn't just a fear. Its also a solid heal. So using it on mobs or bosses is a great way to pump some HP back in. Vile taint is great for opening on trash then seed spam usually 3 or more mobs you seed if I remember correctly. Meh your getting it. I honestly don't enjoy aff after playing Spriest this expansion. Aff lock needs some serious redesigns to make it play more like Spriest's. Quality of life improvements are seriously needed with the spec.
I very much appreciate your input, some of what you've said I'm now aware of as this episode is a week behind and episode 2 has already been recorded. Hopefully next week you will "some" improvements xD
I stand by my statement in being the worst designed spec for M+. But in higher keys I think it can do really well. I very much agree on a redesign if they want it to be suitable for all styles of content.
@@Dillisan the biggest problems are some boss mechanics... waycrest manor the tree boss is a hell of a nightmare...
loved affli back in shadowlands with the introduction to double legendary, but these days its just too much work to do mediocre damage when you can just play demo and press a few buttons to just do double the damage :/
I just did an LFR raid for the first wing of Amirdrassil. Been getting back into tanking and I didn't do too well tbh. Got a whisper telling me I should unalive myself and just stick to watching others play. Easiest report of my life.
Jesus, some people in this game...there are good people out there though, just comes down to luck I guess :(
Ayo! Nice first episode. Warlock seems like a tricky class to play with all the DoT management, but you got this EZ!
Yus, I always got dis! ;) Glad you enjoyed
Playing a warlock reminds me of the way crests are set up. You need 15 to upgrade, but you get 12. You need 3 soul shards to cast a spender, but you get 2. Then while you’re waiting for the third, you proc 4 more so you’re over capped. That was my limited experience with one, dropped it pretty fast lol
You should revisit the class and join me in world domination! It's also being buffed so it might be nice?
I have to say I’m addicted to this kind of “underdog” content
Me too and I love it!
Just something that I like to do with my 1st vault when playing with a bad gear character:
I like to get the 6 tokens, and turn then into crest, then get this crest and craft some 476 item.
I think that this worth more than the 441~447 itens that we get from lfr and other similar things.
I typically only PvP but my 2 friends started playing again and they only PvE. So, I thought it'd be fun to tank the dungeons for them. Can't tell you how many people flamed them in low keys for low damage, or left a key because they died once. Now, we are up to 15's and just this week, a healer died once and left. Again in the 14, a dps died and left.
That sucks man, I'm sorry to hear you've gone through all this toxicity. I've had my fair share in M+ but nothing like I experienced in this raid, that was out of nowhere.
"Starting a key dismisses your pet" Yeah, us Warlocks have been complaining about that one for years. You have enough time to summon and mount up, but it does feel like you start every key off on the wrong foot.
How long has this been a thing..? ARG! :D
As someone who also has ADHD and isn’t the best player watching you learn new specs and classes makes me feel a lot better about my own struggles
Very fun to see. Nice job. Affliction is one of my favorites.
About the rotation, I use Heikili. This addon almost always get it right.
amazing ep 1.. i cant wait to see what comes next!!
Glad you enjoyed!
@cursor macros are the best thing you can use to skip the green placement circle
Appreciate the input, I'll take a look :)
Demo warlock here.. I can verify that everyone expects you to read minds when to summon.. no asking, just have to know. lol
I've been trying for that Arch-druid ring since the first week, so seeing you get it in your very first vault hurt 😅
Sorry! :
I started my WoW journey as a mage this time around, I played a long time ago but came back maybe 3 months ago, since then I've made a Warrior and a DH and realize that I totally agree with you, being a melee based class is just more fun to me.
My favorite low-geared alt experience was being invited to a key lvl that i def shouldn't have been because of my iLvl. I was summoned, asked for mage table, and kick after everyone took biscuits.
Great video , I really Enjoyed watching it , ty sir for upload
I'm glad you enjoy, thank you for the nice comment
Welcome to the magical world of being a Warlock lol. Yeah it gets tricky but I love it.
I'm secretly enjoying it, but don't tell anyone!
i was joking with my guildies when i told them i want to bring my baddie warlock to our weekly raid. turns out i become our dedicated summoner and one thing i need to pay attention is 'when to open closet and bring out the cookies'. i play demo and im happy doin around 100k dps with ilvl 462. but tbh i dont enjoy playing warlock
I wanted the community to vote for Demo purely because I saw a friend play it a long time ago and exploding imps looked hilarious xD. But Affliction is what they chose cause they like to see me suffer...jokes on them, I will dominate the M+ scene! Just, no more RISE >.>
@@Dillisan yeah rise is horrible
Yes I play a dwarf and you can put it where the sun don't shine, lol. That tesco budget cloak is BIS.
Every little helps!
Dwarves smell.
so if you really did just copy the talent build off wowhead or somewhere it should have grimoire sacrifice, with a book icon. You need to use that to sacrifice your pet because it is a decent damage increase, and it allows you to have an interrupt if you sacrifice the interrupt pet.
I did but I didn't prep the character properly and like mentioned, Episode 1 was day 1 & 2 playing the Warlock. There's far too much to take in so I was bound to mess loads up and not know certain things. I somewhat fixed this in the 2nd Episode...I hope! >.>
About the raid thing idk man. Last season I pugged aotc on my alt warlock at 409 ilvl with a 10% average parse for the four bosses I was in the group. The group listing said something like “desperate for a lock”, and I signed up with the message “how desperate are you?”. From my point of view, I would be doing negative damage so that’s not my job, and I’m only there to put down cookies and summon people quickly so people don’t get bored waiting around. So even if I didn’t do damage, I tried to be proactive as hell with summoning people, the raidlead noticed and whispered me promising not to kick me because he was happy not having to ask for summon stones. He didn’t kick me and no one even ever suggested kicking me even when we got 440 ilvl locks on nelth and sark because I was doing the things I got invited for. Immediately putting cookies and putting a portal down the moment trash was done, without even thinking before anyone could ever ask.
“lock is sleeping” I’d see as a joking reminder to do my job as a 0 damage lock, and the whispers to me feel like frustration after not getting the hint and “was I asked” screams ego to me which is fine if your damage was actually good. But it’s hard to actually judge without seeing actual footage and context, how long you were waiting around for etc.
Well the whispers came in not even 30 seconds after the message in raid chat and I only just got to the group after making my way. They opened up the group and invited 1 player, then these messages came out straight away. I was going to put up a stone cause it was obvious to me that these are the reasons they'd take a poorly geared Warlock, if I can't contribute much in terms of damage then I know what I can be useful for. But I won't make any excuses for treating any player like this, it's just wrong.
@@Dillisanoh yea, if it’s right after only just gotten there it’s obviously not a guy being frustrated but a dick being a dick.
It still blows me away that you can do entire mythic and get absolutely nothing out of it besides money and an upgraded key.. Why is it like that?
RNG at it's finest. It sucks but it is what it is
I love the story telling! Great job! Subbed. :) What's the addon you use for the character viewing screen? It looks super neat.
Appreciate the love and I'm glad you're enjoying! That's an addon called Narcissus and it's super powerful! :)
@@Dillisan Thank you for the quick reply! :)
my friends and i did this in shadowlands season 4. we called it "zero to hero" we were just a stack of the worst classes. (healer, tank, dps)
That's pretty much what they call this challenge. Good on you guys for doing it, that's great and it's so much fun! :)
Super late but for dht i always spec burning rush. Its just too good to allow you to greed a cast and use circle on the kb boss
I love the "you'll see a lot of mistakes throughout this series" commented on top of a clip of an entire dungeon without sacrificing the pet with grim sac. ^-^
Edit: I just noticed that you didn't use grim sac the whole video. I'm sure someone else has mentioned it but affliction runs a talent called Grimoire of Sacrifice (over on the right side of the spec tree). cast this to kill your pet and gain their ability (kick from felhunter normally in dungeons). instead of your pet attacking, it just procs damage while you use abilities. The hidden benefit of this is that starting a key will not remove the buff associated to sacrificing your pet. However, you will need to resummon it when you die.
ON THAT NOTE. you can use the spell "fel domination" every couple of minutes to giga-speed up your pet summon cast (like down to 0.5s or something). This is great to use after you get battle rezzed or if you realize you forgot to get your pet/grim sac out. It's super janky, but if you get brezzed you're gonna hit "Fel domination", "Summon Felhunter", "Grimoire of Sacrifice" then go about your business.
I love aff lock whether it's bad or good. as a Rogue main it's the only ranged class that feels somewhat familiar to assas. Excited to see your progression! Affliction doesn't feel too terrible right now but requires some very big pull on very high keys to really ramp up the damage. and the single target is pretty tragic.
Buff coming next week though!
Oh it doesn't end there haha. Like I said, I have no idea and it shows. This makes the curve or progression and success that much better imo. Yeah I'm hoping higher keys make this spec feel so much better and let's be honest, a good player can play anything to a decent level, Aff included :).
Oh I saw these buffs and got really excited! Time to dominate!
Also for orbs:
2 orbs go out and start crashing to the ground. standing under them slows them down.
When an orb lands it does some damage and applies a debuff to the whole party that increases damage taken from orbs by a LOT.
So you let one land right away. you stand in the other one to delay it until the debuff falls off then let it land.
you actually did it correctly on almost every orb set except the one that killed the healer. you'll always take damage from the orbs but the standing in them you did saved a lot of damage on the group.
@@Shmeeps_phd Hahaha, thank you for your input. I understand orbs now but didn't when I did this. I knew damage would go out but felt I was getting this completely wrong. I noticed after that the Druid was actually doing a good job on most of them. The Druid was a returning player and did great, stuck with me for a few. Rise will be my new enemy :D
I've seen a couple of affi locks in M+ do insane burst dmg actually
I really miss old school affliction, especially during wrath. They tried to bring it back, but instead of SB and drain at 20%, you're pretty much always using drain...
i think its not the affli warlock and more the fact that you are bad at the game
I just found your channel, and I love your positivity!
Glad you enjoy the content!
Hi, random question.. Could you let me know the font you are using for your unitframes and nameplates in this video? They look really clean. I already grabbed your ElvUI and plater profiles from your discord but the fonts don't quite seem to match up with what's in this video. Thank you!
For your next challenge, would be cool if u take a fury warrior but make it SIngle Minded Fury instead of Titans Grip.
I have a few more lined up, one for RUclips and the rest will be live on Twitch. Season 4 will be my melee season though as it's the last role left. The community will vote for the specs they want me to play on the Discord near the end of Season 3. I'll be playing whatever they vote for :D
Just stumbled across this channel, love the editing and commentary. Sorry if this has been asked but what unit frames do you use? They look clean as fuck and I am in love, doesn't look like elvui though
Hey! Glad you enjoyed the content :)
They are actually ElvUI and my entire UI is FREE to download via the Discord ;)
It’s not bad. Got my affliction to 2900 so far. Just anything past a 24 key is gonna hurt
That's amazing, maybe I can get there too!
I don't play warlock (sp's here), but shouldn't aff warlock be better off in higher keys since everything lives longer and also aff warlock has great self heal from his spells (at least it was like that earlier)
@@aslkdmskfm not necessarily. Pre buff it was bad only good during our burst window every 30 sec from our soul rot. But the sustained aoe was subpar. Now he got buffed and it’s hell of a lot better. Especially in higher keys
Not even a split second went before he mentioned the spec i wanted to play.
it honestly feels bad to play affliction even at 16 for me, unless it's 20+ is the only time I will play affliction and usually only if it's fortified, so mobs actually live long enough with all our dots.
gateway is instant with soulburn but takes muscle memory/knowledge
also a great macro for an instant full heal
/cast Soulburn
/use Healthstone
Soulburn healthstone is 50% increase in healing I do believe.
you could do the same with gateway
/cast Soulburn
/cast [@cursor] Demonic Gateway
or remove [@cursor] if you like to see the aim of it better.
Yeah it feels pretty blah when everything just dies and you're still dotting targets xD. Higher keys should be so much better.
Appreciate the tips, I have made notes :D
This is very interesting!. As a player that is coming back to wow and is kind of scared of it due to reddit toxic claiming posts is very nice to see stuff actually happening! Im subbing so i can see the rest of it
Soulburn into gate makes it instant btw. Super handy to know when getting out of shit
I did know this but I get flustered xD
If I had kids, I would love having them watch this series on a Sunday morning.
Amazing storytelling and editing man!
I love this, thank you for leaving such a wonderful comment and I'm super happy you enjoyed!
I tend to be mostly family friendly as we've got some young ones within the community, Dilli needs to set a good example :)
I guess that's who this is for? The moral grandstanding is something out of a show for small kids.
lol i'm the warrior tank in your first LFR wing Raid
Haha nice! You probably beat me in damage too >.>
Nice Video whats the Background Music in the Video?
do you have some kind of link to the plug ins you are using i like how clean your game looks
What is your addon for LFG, showing the classes of everyone in the group in the symbols?
I think that's Premade Groups Filter
Dude what is the name of that character screen add on??? That’s hot
Unstable Affliction used to be the main spender back in Legion before Malific Grasp was introduced in BFA.
Knowing this now sounds weird :D
ayyo, u mind telling me what kind of weakauras ur running to make ur ui looks like that with the unitframes for example because i guess its not all elvui
Man as warlock main that trick is that you dont give a damn what everyone is talking. Your moment is when you get gear and let the dmg speak for you :P
Awsome video😃I can confirm there is alot of toxicity out there as a pug player, but there is also the oposite😀 been called alot of not so nice things but it is what it is
Glad you enjoyed Osk! Man that sucks, I'm sorry to hear. Hopefully you and the wife can join community raids more often
What?
I love Afflication in M+. With the 4er Set Boni and Doom Blossom, Seed of Corruption deals a Tons of Damage on the Trash.
Together with Vile Taint and Soul Rot pretty funny.
What addon do you use for the hp bars? The one that shows your party's.
That's ElvUI
What's the radius wheel at 15:30?
Opie
i used to get roasted by people in heroic dungeons as an ele shaman because I didn't have the tier set yet and the tanks were pulling the entire map and I couldn't cast and run at the same time. it was not fun.
Sucks to suck.
Heads up. if you stand under the Dragon in DHT the push back is much less.
Yeah I know, it just took me by surprise :D
"Raid finder would be great to gear" - laughs in zero raid drops this season.
Your videos made me re-download WoW and go level just so I can get my itch out of the way, your videos are always so well made.
Do you think you could provide your UI? Its so clean...
Check the Discord ;)
Never played Aff lock before, decided i wanted to lvl and alt and honestly, for leveling out in the world i feel like Aff is the best spec of any class.
I can gather a whole zone with agony, have voidwalker tank them when they get close and once they all group up i just seed of corruption which blows them up and they are usually all dead after that.
Compared to leveling as most other classes/speccs, this was best, 2nd for me is havoc DH
i played affliction at the beginning of season 2 and got A LOT of hate in keys (usually 15's) and it always sucked, because the class is so fun but it's just so behind /: massive respect for running aff for real
That sucks man, sorry to hear. I'll show these Aff haters and smash this challenge! Thanks for the love
Next Friday? Holy Moly donut shop
Extra cookie for you! \o/
Thanks
Hovis, wtf! Thank you
Mythic Raider here, as someone who helps people in heroic guilds that are either on my btag or I’ve just met in keys and enjoyed playing with them, you are obviously miles ahead of the majority of heroic raiders. ElvUI and Weakauras are not things many people run in these guilds for whatever reason, so I will say regardless of how bad you felt you did at affliction early on, you still are probably miles better than quite a few who use nothing at all, even at 420-430 ilvl.
I’m sure since your main was 3071 when u showed it, that obviously you have a bit more of a high end content tendency than you may even realize.
This was some nice content, keep it up!
One other minor detail in case other people in comments may be wondering, Mythic raiders may seem intimidating if you are only in normal/heroic, but tbh they are least toxic community of WoW players I’ve come across in my 14 years of playing the game. Everyone is too busy doing their own thing, researching fights, playing other games, etc. to really care as much about performance.
An anecdote from earlier tonight: I was pugging a Black Rook Hold 17 on my 3014 io warrior, which I’ve timed 24 Tyrannical Throne of the tides and 24 fall on, so those are displayed on my io. All of that was on arms, but fury is better so i swapped to that. I had no issues getting an invite, but the group leader, a havoc DH, who had 17s timed but 1400 io, presumably a new toon, was gatekeeping people and being genuinely elitist for his key.
I understand havoc is FoTM right now, but to be honest, he declined a 465 priest with like 1700 score paired with a BM hunter 477 who is like 2700. He cited that the priest had only done 13s and he didnt want a player like that in his 17.
Fair enough I thought to myself, so imagine my surprise when this 460 DH did 35k on bosses and 64.7k overall on the key. He/she was an absolute carry, and has no business attempting to gatekeep anything, but alas, thats the “tryhard” range it seems like.
Anyway the TLDR of this is basically, mythic raiders and high io players aren’t scary and if you run with them you should ask if they’d like to do more content, or just chill and do some other keys, because a lot of us don’t really care as much about anyone else’s performance as much as our own as long as you aren’t super toxic. Who knows, you may even learn something to improve your own gameplay :)
Hey. Thank you for taking the time to write these comments, I very much appreciate this and I'm glad you enjoyed the content. I've played on and off since TBH have mainly been a Heroic Raider, I dipped into Mythic in Season 1 for the very first time just to see if I was capable, turns out it wasn't much different and I performed very well. But since Season 1 where I dipped into M+ for the first time (properly anyway) and this channel took off, I have stopped Raiding so much and focused on M+.
I've tried staying away from Elv as much as I can but I much prefer it over anything else. Personal preference at the end of the day. Everything else I use is what helps me, such as WA's and the soundpack that comes with it announcing me to move, stack, adds etc. This helps massively due to my ADHD and poor focus at times. I actually replaced the sounds and asked my 8 year old to record replacements, they are SO MUCH better than the robotic defaults (made available to my Patreons & Twitch subs for anyone wondering!).
Like I mentioned in the video, this was my FIRST day playing a Warlock let alone a button bloat spec with with a playstyle that's incredible different to anything I've played for the past 15 years. I am closing in on 3.2 on my Havoc Demon Hunter which I've mained since Legion, I'm no FOTM player and have played it regardless of the meta. I've timed a couple of 25's this season so far and everything else is close behind so I have some experience. I put myself down and make fun of myself in these videos for entertainment purposes mostly but to also highlight mistakes that could be sued as a learning experience to someone else. I don't consider myself an amazing player and I'm fine with this, but I'm way above average and sometimes I forget this.
I don't care about the meta and like to give the player a chance, more players should do this too. My M+ team consists of a BM Monk, a MW Monk and a BM Hunter. Whilst those specs are doing great this season, last season was far from it. We've timed some 24's without an Aug Evoker this season but we do feel the difference at that level and pushing higher we'd almost always want one. Everything else we can somewhat make work and everything is viable to my key level, but meta will always be a thing.
There are some friendly players at the high levels but there are also some incredibly toxic players at that level too, so I wouldn't personally say it's less toxic at a higher level, there's just less players at that level.
The last part resembles something I also mention from time to time. Playing with players better than you is great (for me at least) cause it makes me push harder and you can learn so much from them. I've done this with the team I put together, they're all far better than me as a player (imo anyway) and I've learnt so much since I started playing with them. But it's also nice to give back and be that guy, help others when you can and I do this a lot too.
Anyways, I'm glad you enjoyed and I appreciate your comment
I appreciate the thought provoking comment here, and I think one other thing people don't think about a lot is many of the very end game players have played for a long time so there is a deep experience pool compared to newer players. I have played since TBC for instance so the knowledge I have of the game is very old, compared to a player who started in SL or DF, the game sense will always be something that can't be taught. However, this is why, as you said running with players better than you is beneficial, because it can teach the newer players proper play and break bad habits.
I raid 5 days a week atm, my main guild just killed M Smolderon last night, and they are all far better players than I am but I have learned so much from them since joining in S1 of DF for VoTI. My weekend group is also a mythic raid team however, they are far less progressed as they have less time (6 hours vs 12 hours a week) and while many of those players have past CEs and Hall of Fames, they have ended up moving on in life and taking a more casual approach while still wanting to mythic raid. Surrounding yourself with as many good player perspectives as possible has been my personal key to improvement, since I consider myself significantly better than I was in Shadowlands or BFA for instance.
I'm a warlock main and do my weekly 20s as Affliction for fun. Is it as good as Demo? No. But it's not that bad. You could be doing quite a lot more damage with the proper talents and rotation. And you can pump bosses on tyrannical with Dread Touch and Tormented Crescendos.
8:26 were they a DH?
lets be honnest. im pumping with my affliction lock somewhat above 170k overall in 25. keys.. i mean. the adds live longer there. makes sense to me. dots on adds that live like 4-5 sec dont make sense. instead just put up agony and seed the whole time. with shadowflame talent on low keys. does more dmg in addpacks.
Dilli warlock pumps incoming. Great video. Keep up the great work.
Dilli got dis! Appreciate you