English managers are not tactical. La Masia kids learn complex tactics from a very young age. English academies have improved a lot tactically over the years, but kids today are not turning into managers yet. In the past, Spanish midfielders would build up step by step in a methodical way. English midfielders would play long ball forward without much thinking. That’s why managers like Lampard and Gerrard are not very tactical. There are no complexity in their tactics. A lot of English managers didn’t have the opportunity to learn from Pep (easily the greatest ever tactician in football history). So they don’t know how to divide a tactics into thousands of pieces and coach them into their players. They don’t know how to play a tactical chess game.
A lot of England fans would despise Klopp because of his association with Liverpool. Let's not forget that in the 70's and 80's Liverpool were the dominant force in English football with eleven league titles and seven 2nd place finishes in 19 seasons from 1972/73 until 1990/91 Klopp had a far better legacy and overall connection with the fanbase and even the City at Liverpool than Tuchel did at Chelsea. He defended Liverpool fans booing God Save the Queen in the FA Cup final and a lot of people not only hate Liverpool fans but scousers in general.
It’s honestly crazy that people don’t want Tuchel as manager. He brought PSG and Chelsea to 2 finals in the span of a year. He took Chelsea to 6 finals
his knockout record isn't all that good though. He lost 2 finals at Wembley on penalties. The only final he won was during covid. Let's not talk about that though because it doesn't suit the agenda that Tuchel is suddenly the greatest manager of all time
And the reasons they won't. I still remember how English media treated Croatia before the semi finals 2018. WC and when Croatia kicked them out Modric told English pundits to be more humble 😂
@@MercWTM2 yeah lol, love the part when he was saying how Modric did not think about English pundits before the game even tho Modric said it motivated them. Neville is really something else. Bro knows what Modric was thinking better than Modric himself.
Sorry but I honestly think what happens in the women's game is irrelevant to the men's. The differences are massive and to many to draw meaningful comparisons.
@@luciusesox1luckysox570 cool - name at least 3 differences that make the analogy irrelevant and void. It's the same sport and in this case the same principle.
@luciusesox1luckysox570 you're on your own on this one. The US said nothing about hiring an English person as they're the best person. We're hiring a CL winner off the back of 2 finals in 3 years. Where is our usual over-optimism? Gender shouldn't be a factor when it comes to nationalism.
When it costs 13,500 to finish your coaching licences here, you wonder why no English managers are showing up anymore. Costs 1.2k in Spain and 500 Euros in Germany. Insane that we are blaming the German for taking and England job and not the system for being greedy.
Brazil is facing a similar dilemma with the possibility of a foreign manager: - The Brazilian people think that no brazilian coach is good enough for the Seleção. - The impact that both Abel Ferreira and Jorge Jesus left in the Brasileirão and Libertadores with Palmeiras and Flamengo. - A lot of the best coaches in Brasileirão are foreign (Abel Ferreira, Juan Pablo Vojvoda, Arthur Jorge, Luiz Zubeldía, Gabriel Milito, Ramón Díaz and Pedro Caixinha). - The Failures of the Best Brazilian coaches to bring good performances after Tite left (Dorival Junior and Fernando Diniz) - CBF trying and failing miserably to bring Carlo Ancelotti and creating this theory that we could have a foreign manager.
If he doesn't win the world cup, which is very difficult, them lots gonna go 'I told you so'. They're just winding up for a 'gotcha' moment for some internet brownie points by pretending to have any amount of ball knowledge. Take note of every single public personality slagging Tuchel just for being a German, and publish it under their socials for every win he got in the world cup.
That article from the Daily Mail was just peak mindless nationalism. I first heard about this from Zealand last night and he made a comment about "This sounds like something ChatGPT would spit out if you asked it: Write me the most nationalist response to the English National Football Team hiring a German manager." So I did it. ChatGPT actually wrote a BETTER and MORE LOGICAL article. Yes, it was all rah-rah-crown-and-country, but it had better takes than most of these English rantboxes I've seen seeing.
Opposition to the idea of a foreign national head coach is not unique to England. The policy of all major footballing nations is to strongly prefer their own coaches for that position. I haven't done a comprehensive review, but here are a few: - Germany has never had a foreign head coach. - Brazil has not had a foreign head coach since 1944, when a Portuguese coach managed them for two friendlies. - Italy has not had a foreign head coach except for a brief spell in the '60s when Helenio Herrera (of Inter fame) was co-manager (with an Italian). If any of these countries (among others) found themselves in a position where they were toying with the idea of appointing a foreign coach, the result would be exactly the same kind of media storm seen in England now - nothing about this is a uniquely English pathology (including the overlap with xenophobia). Worse still if the coach being considered (much less appointed) hailed from a major footballing rival by nationality. The difference is that all of these countries would take corrective action to ensure that they had qualified coaches in the future, not just the short-term solution of a foreign coach (or an unqualified one, like Southgate). In fact, we can even argue that this is something like what happened in Germany when they made Klinsmann manager: he was not really qualified for the position (and the quality of players available to him was middling to poor by German standards), but he was able to restore positivity about the German national team, while in the mean time a programme to reform German football was under way. That saw results not only in a very talented and successful generation of players for the German national team, but also a new wave of young German coaches who have been in demand all over Europe. The English FA is incapable of anything similar. We see more talented English players these days because wealthy *clubs* have motivations to produce them. They don't have the same motivation to produce talented English managers. The FA has no serious programme for it. So this problem that's lasted about 30 years will continue, as the FA is a product of the rot in British society in general.
Thank you. Some common sense. I'm not even English, but as you say, this situation isn't unique to England. Countries across the world typically prefer their own citizen to head their national team.
@@beno1129 Because, as the OP has said, the other major countries like Spain, Germany, Italy and Argentina have no problem producing quality coaches. It's a problem which is specific to England because of its inability to produce coaches on the level of Tuchel (who isn't even the best Germany has to offer).
I'll listen to the people that say stuff like "it doesnt feel right" and complain about the nationality when they can name an English manager on the same level as Tuchel
I'm sorry but apart from Eddie Howe, which English manager could be considered competent to win the WC? Sure Thomas Tuchel may be a German taking over England but give him a break; he won the UCL with a Chelsea team made by Lampard
I think in a couple years Liam Rosenior will have gained enough experience to become the England manager, but other than that there aren't many alternatives that aren't complete shit
The problem isn't signing a foreign manager, the problem is having to sign him because there are no english managers that are on the level of the squad
The most qualified person got the job, simple as that. I don’t care if he’s not from Doncaster, I only care about the success of the England national team, which he’ll bring
They always say "England National Football Team's managers should be English" but never say "England National Football Team's managers should be good enough." No wonder why they're shite every tournament especially playing against champions like Spain, Italy, France, etc. The only thing England is still talked about is their brilliantly talented individuals, but as a team, this national club is a miscommunication.
Tuchel is probably the club manager who is most adaptable to international football. In fact, Tuchel feels much more comfortable in knock-off tournaments than in a league season. One of the big problems England has is that there is no learning line/philosophy like there is in Argentina, Spain or Germany. Most of the english managers "learn" by managing in the lower categories and end up managing as a team in the lower categories is managed, not a team that wants to win titles
Yeah the responce from the media and a few has just been rediculous, I’m English and I’m perfectly happy to have Tuchel in charge, he’s clearly better than anyone we could reasonably get right now, and I wish him all the success.
Generally speaking, being from the nation you're managing does have an advantage, which is why alot of the recent international tournament wins, have been with managers native to their team, but realistically the only English manager who's good enough right now that with the advantage I mentioned would make them a better option than Tuchel is Eddie Howe, but he's not available so if it's a choice between any available English managers or Tuchel, then the choice is obvious
As a German I find it funny to see how the English media reacts to this. My immediate thought when Tuchel was announced was like: "Wow. They are going to burn something down in England now."
2:45 Beyond NOT winning the Premier League. 1997 was the last time a English manager ended 2nd. Keegan with Newcastle. Now are you ready for this? You need to go back to 2002/2003 to find a English manager finishing top 3. Bobby Robson also with Newcastle. Top 4? Bobby Robson retired in 2004. Since only 4 times did an english manager achieved top 4. 2009/2010+2011/2012 Harry Redknapp with Tottenham. 2019/2020 Frank Lampard with Chelsea. 2022/2023 Eddie Howe with Newcastle. 20 years. 4 Top 4s. Not one Top 3. It's abysmal.
i honestly thought that when the news broke about Tuchel was announced as England boss, there would be sense of respect, like no arguments on social media because England had just appointed a winner, that's what he is. But then to see the negative articles and responses is just shocking, Southgate wasn't a good enough coach for international level and when 1 who is gets appointed, there's uproar
Argentina and Spain have proved that big names doesn't make up for greater achievements. Both Argentina and Spain coaches were Student and Teacher back in 2017. England worst enemy is and always been FA and it has been like this for already 100 years.
Being Belgian, I know what it's like to have a golden generation and seeing it fall short. We hired some bloke who managed Everton and finished third in a World Cup we could and probably should have won. On paper, England has had the most talented young lineup in both the past 2 Euros & World Cup. You could've won two of these, easily, but didn't. At the hands of a stubborn manager, like we had with Roberto Martinez. A golden generation like yours, deserves an absolute TOP manager who has seen it all and brought success to his teams. He could be some Argentinian guy for all I care, the nationality of that manager does not matter. Capitalise on this generation. You have to. Tuchel could be the right man for sure.
To be honest the Belgium golden generation had problems beyond the manager.having players who don't get along in the squad and a guy like Lukaku who flops in big games won't do you any good in tournaments
Lol what, england has the best young crop of players the last two euros? U do know France exists right. Winning an international Tournament is a privilege not a right, u didn't deserve the world cup anymore than anyone else. Such hubris without any accomplishments.
@@lloydlebelo4623 I think people really overestimate the impact of these problems. I imagine you're talking KDB and Courtois. And Lukaku wasn't what he is now. He was reliable and had confidence.
All these English pundits mouthing off, not got the bottle to manage themselves, just happy to chat crap. And when they do try the fail like Neville, who did not deserve the Valencia job in the first place.
As a Pole I think that coach's nationality is not too important. More important thing is his abilities. In 21st century we've had 3 non-polish coaches: 1 dutch and 2 portuguese. Leo Beenhakker was good (we advanced to EURO 2008), Paulo Sousa was not bad, but he was a liar and ran away like a rat from sinking ship before World Cup 2022 play-offs and Fernando Santos, which was a lazy piece of shit.
People are moaning over England having a foreign manager but have no issue with English leauge clubs having foreign managers. Make it make sense 🙄 doesn't matter if hes germaman. The world war has nothing to do with football.
They wanted Pep but when they got a different foreign manager they suddenly cry about it needing to be an English manager Tf nationality do they think Pep is 😂
The outdated debate is reminiscent to WW2. Unbelievable that he has got this reception despite being the best candidate for the job. Would Lee Carsley, the IRISHMAN, be the preference?
2:36 That's correct to mention Bobby Robson being the last Englishmen to win the major European silverwares, but I guess you should include the European Cup or the Champions League records as well. The last time an Englishmen did this feat was Liverpool coach Joe Fagan in 1984. Only 5 English coaches have ever managed to win this most prestigious competition, all during the European Cup era (Matt Busby, Bob Paisley, Brian Clough, Tony Barton, and Fagan). Additionally, in this century, there were 2 English coaches that went through the European Finals (McClaren with Middlesbrough in 2006 and Roy Hodgson with Fulham in 2010, both in UEFA Cup/Europa League).
We are talking about a coach that won the champions league with Chelsea. A coach that made Chelsea one of the best teams in England. And people are hating. Neville and Carragher are complaining even though they were managed by Erikkson for England. No one would be complaining if guardiola joined or klopp. What’s the beef with tuchel?? What is this media mate? 😑
We shouldn't just put people in place, cause of their nationality. We should appoint people who are right for the job. Cause lets face it, if Tuchel wins England a trohpy, they'll be all over him. Loving him etc. Without even acknowledging their past comments. If they want the England head coach to be English, then they need to do better in promoting the English coaching game.
it’s really funny how prideful English pundits are even though they haven’t won anything since the 60s and most of the national teams they played for are considered the biggest wastes
The fact that there was possibly only one viable English option at all (Howe - but he's tied up with Newcastle) and that there has never been an English manager winning the Premiership is more of a sad indictment of the current coaching system we have in England and the FA. This is not Tuchel's fault nor is it his problem to fix. Furthermore, we also have had a foreign female coach with the Lionesses for a number of years (she's Dutch), but that's not been a problem, especially the success with a Euros win and a first World cup final. So why is having the same for the men's side such a problem?
I don't get the hate. Didn't England already had foreign managers for their national team?? Also what did English managers have done with England national team for the past 12 years?
Yeah exactly. Still I would prefer Pep over Southgate as Sweden National Team coach. Finland is the little brother they can have Southgate if they want him.
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I think many pundits are missing the point, we all agree that it would be preferable to have an English manager, but when there is such a disparity between Tuchel and all the English options in terms of quality, surely the extra chance of winning something is more important. We all know the punditry world is pure chumocracy, if it had been Klopp Carragher would have been all over it, if it was Guardiola, Neville would have jizzed his pants, because none of them have a personal relationship with Tuchel they don't support him.
Bro, as a Chelsea fan, what Tuchel did in the space of 18 months was incredible. He is so good at tournaments. We reached 6 finals, winning 3. In his first six months, he beat: - Pep Guardiola 3 times - José Mourinho - Jürgen Klopp - Diego Simeone 2 times - Carlo Ancelotti - Zinedine Zidane
As a Chelsea fan, we all know that Tuchel is what we need. Chilwell LB, you heard it here first Small correction: Carsley is English. Born here, lived here, both parents English, but with Irish heritage
Love the appointment of Thomas Tuchel. Can't wait for the world cup. As an 18 year old I do not understand why people are so adamant on having an English manager. I do not care about what nationality our national team manager is as long as they offer exciting football. Southgate did not 💀
He'll at least bring cohesion, adaptability and direction to the team. A definitive style is probably not possible since that requires deliberate customized squad building over a long period of time. With Tuchel you guys have just dramatically increased your chances of winning the world cup.
German here, and I joked that Tuchel should be tried for treason in Germany for becoming England manager, but just a joke given our rivalry. And I genuinely don’t mind a foreigner as Bundestrainer. But seriously, I expected English black humour or sarcasm about this at worst, not outright hate from the media and those useless pundits.
Jose Mourinho speaks 5 languages fluently, Tuchel like 4 and Guardiola now is at least 4. Alonso at least 4. The biggest hinderance is that english coaches probably can't manage a modern multilingual and multinational top team, Ironically is Hodgson can impressively speak 5+ languages.
Strange how the likes of Carragher and Neville played for England under Sven, they didn’t seem to have an issue with a Swede managing the team. Personally, I don’t care where the manager is from as long as he gets the team playing half decent football so I may actually be bothered to watch them.
Carra's reason for objecting to a German manager is different. He's said it a few times that he feels international football is the best of what one country has got vs the best of what other countries have got, and that means not just players but also managers. To him, it feels like having a foreign manager is, therefore, cheating, like bringing in a foreign ringer to play a position your national team is weak in. In his case, it's not xenophobia or a "how are our managers going to get better if we don't give them opportunities" argument.
England national team with an ACTUAL COUCH is so scary cause they have SUCH great players but... the only thing the english media can THINK OF is that the man is german...ffs drowning in a puddle situation
It seems england fans agree tuchel was a good appointment, all the media seems to have an issue. Surprise surprise the people employed to talk about football seem to be the most out of touch
Some people just think we should have an English coach for the England team, it's not about hating Tuchel or Germans or any other foreigners. When people talk about how the English are somehow uniquely unpleasant and racist in wanting a coach from their own country no one seems to point out that other major nations don't have foreign coaches. France, Germany, Italy, Spain, even the Netherlands with a smaller population, all prefer to go local.
as someone living in poland you know that we had 3 non polish coaches 1 we love (Leo Beenhakker) 2 were fails (sousa and santos) but best succeses (if we can call exit of a group stage and 1/4 of euro) were with polish coaches without any internation recognition so we will see with england team
In England, it costs 4000 for coaching badges in Spain it cost 500 euros. Plus, the EPL has the most money, so it can cherry-pick managers from other leagues.
So they're cool with Sven-Göran Eriksson (a Swede) and Fabio Capello (an Italian) now that a lot of time has passed, but not Thomas Tuchel (a German)? I'm not following this at all
as a german, i would expect (but oppose) similar outrage if the DFB hired a foreign manager. Not even specifically a british one, but any foreign manager would be outrageous in the eyes of a german simple mind.
I made a comment on a different video stating that i think Tuchel is a great appointment, but it's embarrassing that we don't produce quality anymore but import it. No responses. On a separate video i made the point that due to the nature of the Premier league demanding the best no matter what country they're from it's hard for aspiring English managers to get adequate experience in what is the most competitive league in the world. One response telling me I'm "utterly clueless" and that "The Premier league is actually a great platform for upcoming English coaches" I don't know if people who may agree are out there but it would seem we're in great denial about how pants we are.
@@UnitedReds99 oh lets be real england has a really strong team and will most likely win sth. If not its win scenario 1. If you win under tuchel we will always let you know, that you need a german to win. Thats winscenario 2. The only thing that would be not cool if tuchel defeats Nagelsmann on a big stage, that would be just pity for nagelsman. But everything else i am fine with
@@peterknote223 Fair enough my German brother it's all good banter between us. Tbh as long as we win something I won't even care if a German manager wins it for us, at the end of the day you've always been better than us and won a lot more World Cups and European Championships so its a good thing we have a German to hopefully get us over the line 😂
Whilst I have always thought that each nation should have a manager of the same nationality as the team does for consistency more than anything, Tuchel does not deserve the hate he has got. This would not happen if it was Klopp or Pep being appointed...
Better to have a german manager who knows what he's doing rather than an english manager with the tactical prowess of a wet sock. We've had foreign managers before, the current bloke is Irish, who should care as long as we win stuff for a change.
The people talking like this is some atrocity clearly dont know about history before the 1930s. The ethnic english ancestors of today (Saxons and Jutes) migrated to England from Germany.
@gloriousegghead it's relevant to the discussion because that blood runs through the veins of 99% of the people talking this BS, it is literally the dominant haplogroup of England.
@gloriousegghead it is relevant because the whole idea of not wanting a German managing england for most people comes from a tribal mentality, these such people are having a tribal mentality against quite literally their own bloodline, which they are completely unaware of, making their whole rouse obsolete Whether it happened 1000 years ago or yesterday doesn't change anything, the facts are concrete and the facts are that the absolute majority of Englishmen descend from germanic blood and the people who have built this country over a thousand years toward what it is today are from germanic stock. Hell, the Saxon migrants from Germany literally created the game of football in England, literally couldn't be more relevant.
I believe the criteria for playing for a national team is having been born in the country, having lived there for 5+ years or having a parent/grandparent from the country. I think a good compromise would be to apply those same criteria to the manager. Which would mean that Klopp, Arteta, Moyes or Guardiola could be England manager. Tuchel could have been on his way to being eligible had Chelsea not sacked him.
Quality of Life!!! Also a factor. Look at how many successful Spanish,German,Italian/French coaches are there, they value quality of life far more than the English. They don't always play 3 games a week, better weather and food, way WAY less media and fans scrutiny, and their governments mostly treat them right and have blooming or growing economies. I think the busy schedule,bad weather, media scrutiny wears English players brains out and with the government and economy, they all become pundits or RUclipsrs or bang average coaches, but mostly alcoholics with marital problems and child alimony🤦 Also the fact that there is no proper squad debt, look up Luis aragones 555, you will see why Spains 4 best Left back is better than England's ONE Luke shaw(we still waiting 😅🤦).
Vizeh is such a rationale person that I actually forgot he's English himself until he said 'we' Keep up the good work. Love your video essays and make sure to watch all of them as they are so rich.
The Welsh have always found a manager from Wales and we’ve got a much smaller pool to choose from.. if players need to be English to play for England, the same rule should apply to the manager too
Fun fact: the Spanish national team has never had a non-Spanish coach. They’ve always had great coaches to choose from. But here in Canada, no one expects a Canadian coach. We had a Spanish coach for a while. But we actually qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 36 years with an English coach. So go figure.
There’s this statistic that goes around that every World Cup winning team has had a coach from the same country. It seems in the eyes of these journalists, pundits, arrogant fans, etc, breaking that mold would be a condemnation against the nation for not producing good coaches. By the way, England has had foreign born coaches before like Eriksson and Capello. I guess it’s because of this one sided rivalry that England has with Germany that makes it like “harder” for the old heads to accept.
English media is toxic, let's see what Tuchel does, I guess they wanted to snap him up while he was available, he has won stuff at club level. If Postecoglou can win something with Spurs, a team as trophyphobic as England, maybe he should be next England manager.
Carsley was born and raised in England though it's not the same. He qualified for Ireland through a grandmother. I don't think most people are saying we develop the best coaches we don't Tuchel is better than any English manager right now but wanting an English manager for the English national team isn't a bad thing. Ofcourse if we win something I won't care Tuchel isn't English.
I have never seen such a weird and stupid reaction a managerial appointment in any sport ever. Sven and Fabio were welcomed. This is, on paper a much better appointment then any England manager in decades. Time will tell. But certainly it is the best available coach in world football. The fa have smashed it.
It really wasn't any different back for previous managers, go search the daily mail and you'll see they ran an article at the time of Sven's appointment with the headline: "We've sold our birthright down the fjord to a nation of seven million skiers and hammer throwers who spend half their lives in darkness", and for Capello's: "We havent even got the best Italian". Controversy sells papers and generates clicks at the end of the day and that's exactly what the media are doing.
We would have the same discussion in Germany with any foreign trainer. it's sad, but that's the reality. I'm not surprised at all, and I hope Tuchel will prove all the haters wrong. Greets from Germany. And yes: I'm serious here. I hope you win the World Cup with Tuchel.
In the USA, everyone was excited when we hired Pochettino. Seeing the contrast across the pond makes we want to clutch my pearls. Both Poch and Tuchel are objectively better than their predecessors
It's interesting that European football is using quantum tactics, and it trickled down to the managerial level. Unfortunately, Gareth Southgate was affected. If that was some second football country like the US, he would have a statue in NY right now for reaching something equivalent to the FA Emirates Cup. That will not cut it in England, especially in a super competitive continent.
Lee Carsley has won Euro under 21. He should have not been sacked immediately after 1 loss with an inspired Greek side. Tuchel is a definite upgrade, but the unintended consequence is that it ruins the England FA coaching system.
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Ah, the animosity of English people towards us Germans, a generation after the war. When I was on a school exchange trip in Chelmsford 20 years ago, somebody screamed "We've won the war!" at us every day. WWII runs deep, and I can't blame them. Here in Hamburg, at least once a week there is an evacuation going on because they found another 500pound bomb dud somewhere. This war will haunt us for quite some time, but Thomas Tuchel could turn out to be a terrific signing for you lads :D
Your spot on mate but the problem isnt who is in charge of England. Its the awful quality of terrible pundits giving ridiculous opinions like this. And i saw the Sam Wallace articles a few days ago another problem being the massive decline in the country of poor journalism!!!
The Thomas Tuchel hate is crazy. Because he's german you don't want him? Is this WW2?
It’s kind of mental, it Pep became England imagine if anyone would have an issue then😂
@@Vizeh You never know with the English Media
He is more swiss bro. He is Swabian. 😂
@Vizeh yea but pep has been in England for 9 seasons now right so people treat him better I think.But I still support ur opinion
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English managers are not tactical.
La Masia kids learn complex tactics from a very young age. English academies have improved a lot tactically over the years, but kids today are not turning into managers yet.
In the past, Spanish midfielders would build up step by step in a methodical way. English midfielders would play long ball forward without much thinking. That’s why managers like Lampard and Gerrard are not very tactical. There are no complexity in their tactics.
A lot of English managers didn’t have the opportunity to learn from Pep (easily the greatest ever tactician in football history). So they don’t know how to divide a tactics into thousands of pieces and coach them into their players. They don’t know how to play a tactical chess game.
people wouldn’t be complaining if england got jurgen klopp as england manager they’re treating tuchel like he’s hitler
Fucking hell lad😂
It's the same with politics. When Carter does it everybody is Good old Jimmy well done but when Henry does it is seen as bad.
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A lot of England fans would despise Klopp because of his association with Liverpool. Let's not forget that in the 70's and 80's Liverpool were the dominant force in English football with eleven league titles and seven 2nd place finishes in 19 seasons from 1972/73 until 1990/91
Klopp had a far better legacy and overall connection with the fanbase and even the City at Liverpool than Tuchel did at Chelsea. He defended Liverpool fans booing God Save the Queen in the FA Cup final and a lot of people not only hate Liverpool fans but scousers in general.
Rumors are that Klopp will get the job from Nagelsmann when he quits after the wc....
We need to talk more about the fact that NONE OF THE ENGLISH MANAGERS HAS EVER WON A PREMIER LEAGUE
That is a baffling stat and it won't be broken anytime soon
Who won it with Leeds then in 91 and with Blackburn in 94?
@@UnitedReds99he said the Leeds managers name from 92 1995 Blackburn Rovers manager was the Scottish Kenny Dalglish
@@vsocarras27 Ah fair enough then I'm just watching the video now
Or champions league, europa league and euros. Last major trophy won by an english manager is the world cup lol
It’s honestly crazy that people don’t want Tuchel as manager. He brought PSG and Chelsea to 2 finals in the span of a year. He took Chelsea to 6 finals
They don't want him as manager, because they think that only an Englishman should manage the men's team
I was going to say it’s because he’s German but at same time I don’t know if people would react same if Klopp was in charge honestly
He won UCL with Kai, Timo and ziyech
his knockout record isn't all that good though. He lost 2 finals at Wembley on penalties. The only final he won was during covid. Let's not talk about that though because it doesn't suit the agenda that Tuchel is suddenly the greatest manager of all time
@@VizehTuchel doesn't have the nicest personality plus he's German. Most people love Klopp apart from us Man Utd fans
Best manager available, give the guy a chance.
I agree lad
Medias like these in England are the reason why they don't deserve to see England win any trophies.
And the reasons they won't. I still remember how English media treated Croatia before the semi finals 2018. WC and when Croatia kicked them out Modric told English pundits to be more humble 😂
@@OraEtBlavora and then Gary was stilll acting like an arrogant clown afterwards further proving Modric’s point.
@@MercWTM2 yeah lol, love the part when he was saying how Modric did not think about English pundits before the game even tho Modric said it motivated them. Neville is really something else. Bro knows what Modric was thinking better than Modric himself.
The press is aggressively anti England team cus Murdoch can't charge you to watch it
You seem incredibly silly
You should've touched on the fact that the women have Sarina Wiegman, who Dutch, and she won the Euros and got us to a World Cup final
💯 why there wasn't an uproar when they didn't go all out for Emma Hayes shows serious shortsightedness
Sorry but I honestly think what happens in the women's game is irrelevant to the men's. The differences are massive and to many to draw meaningful comparisons.
@@luciusesox1luckysox570 cool - name at least 3 differences that make the analogy irrelevant and void. It's the same sport and in this case the same principle.
@luciusesox1luckysox570 you're on your own on this one. The US said nothing about hiring an English person as they're the best person. We're hiring a CL winner off the back of 2 finals in 3 years. Where is our usual over-optimism?
Gender shouldn't be a factor when it comes to nationalism.
When it costs 13,500 to finish your coaching licences here, you wonder why no English managers are showing up anymore. Costs 1.2k in Spain and 500 Euros in Germany. Insane that we are blaming the German for taking and England job and not the system for being greedy.
What level is that? Cause it’s even more in the states (if you’re counting the ones below the A/top license)
Brazil is facing a similar dilemma with the possibility of a foreign manager:
- The Brazilian people think that no brazilian coach is good enough for the Seleção.
- The impact that both Abel Ferreira and Jorge Jesus left in the Brasileirão and Libertadores with Palmeiras and Flamengo.
- A lot of the best coaches in Brasileirão are foreign (Abel Ferreira, Juan Pablo Vojvoda, Arthur Jorge, Luiz Zubeldía, Gabriel Milito, Ramón Díaz and Pedro Caixinha).
- The Failures of the Best Brazilian coaches to bring good performances after Tite left (Dorival Junior and Fernando Diniz)
- CBF trying and failing miserably to bring Carlo Ancelotti and creating this theory that we could have a foreign manager.
If he doesn't win the world cup, which is very difficult, them lots gonna go 'I told you so'.
They're just winding up for a 'gotcha' moment for some internet brownie points by pretending to have any amount of ball knowledge.
Take note of every single public personality slagging Tuchel just for being a German, and publish it under their socials for every win he got in the world cup.
I can’t believe one of the first media questions was whether he’d sing the anthem. Jesus Christ, I didn’t realise he was auditioning for a musical! 🙄
The amount of disgusting comments l have seen about Thomas Tuchel becoming England manager because of his nationality is insane.
England is a weird one sometimes😂
@@Vizeh For me, it's always 😂
A lot are bigots and racists or just people with outdated old fashioned views. Just ignore them and let them wallow in their own misery
That article from the Daily Mail was just peak mindless nationalism. I first heard about this from Zealand last night and he made a comment about "This sounds like something ChatGPT would spit out if you asked it: Write me the most nationalist response to the English National Football Team hiring a German manager." So I did it.
ChatGPT actually wrote a BETTER and MORE LOGICAL article.
Yes, it was all rah-rah-crown-and-country, but it had better takes than most of these English rantboxes I've seen seeing.
@@JimTheFly the media in this country are genuinely vile at every opportunity
Opposition to the idea of a foreign national head coach is not unique to England. The policy of all major footballing nations is to strongly prefer their own coaches for that position. I haven't done a comprehensive review, but here are a few:
- Germany has never had a foreign head coach.
- Brazil has not had a foreign head coach since 1944, when a Portuguese coach managed them for two friendlies.
- Italy has not had a foreign head coach except for a brief spell in the '60s when Helenio Herrera (of Inter fame) was co-manager (with an Italian).
If any of these countries (among others) found themselves in a position where they were toying with the idea of appointing a foreign coach, the result would be exactly the same kind of media storm seen in England now - nothing about this is a uniquely English pathology (including the overlap with xenophobia). Worse still if the coach being considered (much less appointed) hailed from a major footballing rival by nationality.
The difference is that all of these countries would take corrective action to ensure that they had qualified coaches in the future, not just the short-term solution of a foreign coach (or an unqualified one, like Southgate). In fact, we can even argue that this is something like what happened in Germany when they made Klinsmann manager: he was not really qualified for the position (and the quality of players available to him was middling to poor by German standards), but he was able to restore positivity about the German national team, while in the mean time a programme to reform German football was under way. That saw results not only in a very talented and successful generation of players for the German national team, but also a new wave of young German coaches who have been in demand all over Europe.
The English FA is incapable of anything similar. We see more talented English players these days because wealthy *clubs* have motivations to produce them. They don't have the same motivation to produce talented English managers. The FA has no serious programme for it. So this problem that's lasted about 30 years will continue, as the FA is a product of the rot in British society in general.
Yes
Thank you. Some common sense. I'm not even English, but as you say, this situation isn't unique to England. Countries across the world typically prefer their own citizen to head their national team.
I really couldn’t have put it any better myself!!
Brazil is pretty bad at developing good coaches. It's a big part of their national team being far away from the top for quite a while already
@@beno1129 Because, as the OP has said, the other major countries like Spain, Germany, Italy and Argentina have no problem producing quality coaches. It's a problem which is specific to England because of its inability to produce coaches on the level of Tuchel (who isn't even the best Germany has to offer).
I'll listen to the people that say stuff like "it doesnt feel right" and complain about the nationality when they can name an English manager on the same level as Tuchel
The English media never disappoints ..
The sense of entitlement is insane ..
Especially the English sport media.
I'm sorry but apart from Eddie Howe, which English manager could be considered competent to win the WC? Sure Thomas Tuchel may be a German taking over England but give him a break; he won the UCL with a Chelsea team made by Lampard
People may have liked Potter as he has some ideas but yeah Tuchel has got some sort of pedigree behind him at least
I heard Gary O'Neil was a candidate, the man that is currently BOTTOM of the premier League
@@parker-ii7fgComparing Steve Cooper to Tuchel is like comparing Margot Robbie to Susan Boyle
I think in a couple years Liam Rosenior will have gained enough experience to become the England manager, but other than that there aren't many alternatives that aren't complete shit
He did but let's be real it was more city lost and bottled the final
The problem isn't signing a foreign manager, the problem is having to sign him because there are no english managers that are on the level of the squad
The most qualified person got the job, simple as that. I don’t care if he’s not from Doncaster, I only care about the success of the England national team, which he’ll bring
They always say "England National Football Team's managers should be English" but never say "England National Football Team's managers should be good enough." No wonder why they're shite every tournament especially playing against champions like Spain, Italy, France, etc.
The only thing England is still talked about is their brilliantly talented individuals, but as a team, this national club is a miscommunication.
Tuchel is probably the club manager who is most adaptable to international football. In fact, Tuchel feels much more comfortable in knock-off tournaments than in a league season. One of the big problems England has is that there is no learning line/philosophy like there is in Argentina, Spain or Germany. Most of the english managers "learn" by managing in the lower categories and end up managing as a team in the lower categories is managed, not a team that wants to win titles
That article calling Sweden a backwater is simultaneously deeply insulting to my heritage and absolutely hilarious at the same time.
Modern Sweden is a backwater now though, let's be honest. That country has been murdered by mass immigration from the third world.
Yeah the responce from the media and a few has just been rediculous, I’m English and I’m perfectly happy to have Tuchel in charge, he’s clearly better than anyone we could reasonably get right now, and I wish him all the success.
People in England would rather continue their trophyphobia and "keep it english".
Us argentines on the other hand have the opposite situation. We have argentine managers in almost every other South American country.
Damn Bielsa for one
why are we so upset that the FA has done something right for once?
Because some people are not happy that the manager isn't English.
Exactly
Generally speaking, being from the nation you're managing does have an advantage, which is why alot of the recent international tournament wins, have been with managers native to their team, but realistically the only English manager who's good enough right now that with the advantage I mentioned would make them a better option than Tuchel is Eddie Howe, but he's not available so if it's a choice between any available English managers or Tuchel, then the choice is obvious
As a German I find it funny to see how the English media reacts to this. My immediate thought when Tuchel was announced was like: "Wow. They are going to burn something down in England now."
2:45
Beyond NOT winning the Premier League.
1997 was the last time a English manager ended 2nd. Keegan with Newcastle.
Now are you ready for this?
You need to go back to 2002/2003 to find a English manager finishing top 3.
Bobby Robson also with Newcastle.
Top 4? Bobby Robson retired in 2004.
Since only 4 times did an english manager achieved top 4.
2009/2010+2011/2012 Harry Redknapp with Tottenham.
2019/2020 Frank Lampard with Chelsea.
2022/2023 Eddie Howe with Newcastle.
20 years. 4 Top 4s.
Not one Top 3.
It's abysmal.
i honestly thought that when the news broke about Tuchel was announced as England boss, there would be sense of respect, like no arguments on social media because England had just appointed a winner, that's what he is. But then to see the negative articles and responses is just shocking, Southgate wasn't a good enough coach for international level and when 1 who is gets appointed, there's uproar
southgate wasn't good enough for international management? are you taking the piss?
Argentina and Spain have proved that big names doesn't make up for greater achievements. Both Argentina and Spain coaches were Student and Teacher back in 2017. England worst enemy is and always been FA and it has been like this for already 100 years.
Majority of premier league team are managed by foreign managers. English media are fickle as hell
Being Belgian, I know what it's like to have a golden generation and seeing it fall short. We hired some bloke who managed Everton and finished third in a World Cup we could and probably should have won.
On paper, England has had the most talented young lineup in both the past 2 Euros & World Cup. You could've won two of these, easily, but didn't. At the hands of a stubborn manager, like we had with Roberto Martinez.
A golden generation like yours, deserves an absolute TOP manager who has seen it all and brought success to his teams. He could be some Argentinian guy for all I care, the nationality of that manager does not matter. Capitalise on this generation. You have to. Tuchel could be the right man for sure.
To be honest the Belgium golden generation had problems beyond the manager.having players who don't get along in the squad and a guy like Lukaku who flops in big games won't do you any good in tournaments
Lol what, england has the best young crop of players the last two euros?
U do know France exists right.
Winning an international Tournament is a privilege not a right, u didn't deserve the world cup anymore than anyone else.
Such hubris without any accomplishments.
Now Martinez is messing up Portugals golden generation
@@charles9489I'd say both France and Portugal are stronger on paper than us
@@lloydlebelo4623 I think people really overestimate the impact of these problems. I imagine you're talking KDB and Courtois. And Lukaku wasn't what he is now. He was reliable and had confidence.
All these English pundits mouthing off, not got the bottle to manage themselves, just happy to chat crap. And when they do try the fail like Neville, who did not deserve the Valencia job in the first place.
As a Pole I think that coach's nationality is not too important. More important thing is his abilities. In 21st century we've had 3 non-polish coaches: 1 dutch and 2 portuguese. Leo Beenhakker was good (we advanced to EURO 2008), Paulo Sousa was not bad, but he was a liar and ran away like a rat from sinking ship before World Cup 2022 play-offs and Fernando Santos, which was a lazy piece of shit.
People are moaning over England having a foreign manager but have no issue with English leauge clubs having foreign managers. Make it make sense 🙄 doesn't matter if hes germaman. The world war has nothing to do with football.
None of us were even bloody alive during the World War unless you're an old man 😂
They wanted Pep but when they got a different foreign manager they suddenly cry about it needing to be an English manager
Tf nationality do they think Pep is 😂
The outdated debate is reminiscent to WW2. Unbelievable that he has got this reception despite being the best candidate for the job. Would Lee Carsley, the IRISHMAN, be the preference?
This situation is like if Brazil apoint a Argentinan maneger and say he's a european come to ensalve us again.
And also, a lot of Latin American countries have Argentines coaching their national teams, Colombia for example.
@@joaquincassagnetezcurra5875
and we are doing great with our Argentine coach
2:36 That's correct to mention Bobby Robson being the last Englishmen to win the major European silverwares, but I guess you should include the European Cup or the Champions League records as well. The last time an Englishmen did this feat was Liverpool coach Joe Fagan in 1984. Only 5 English coaches have ever managed to win this most prestigious competition, all during the European Cup era (Matt Busby, Bob Paisley, Brian Clough, Tony Barton, and Fagan). Additionally, in this century, there were 2 English coaches that went through the European Finals (McClaren with Middlesbrough in 2006 and Roy Hodgson with Fulham in 2010, both in UEFA Cup/Europa League).
We are talking about a coach that won the champions league with Chelsea. A coach that made Chelsea one of the best teams in England. And people are hating. Neville and Carragher are complaining even though they were managed by Erikkson for England. No one would be complaining if guardiola joined or klopp. What’s the beef with tuchel?? What is this media mate? 😑
Germany and its people (and their beer) are amazing! 🏴🤝🇩🇪
I know Germany well. It's a fantastic country.
As a german I can say the same about the english.......we are one tribe....same people....same DNA
We shouldn't just put people in place, cause of their nationality. We should appoint people who are right for the job. Cause lets face it, if Tuchel wins England a trohpy, they'll be all over him. Loving him etc. Without even acknowledging their past comments.
If they want the England head coach to be English, then they need to do better in promoting the English coaching game.
it’s really funny how prideful English pundits are even though they haven’t won anything since the 60s and most of the national teams they played for are considered the biggest wastes
The fact that there was possibly only one viable English option at all (Howe - but he's tied up with Newcastle) and that there has never been an English manager winning the Premiership is more of a sad indictment of the current coaching system we have in England and the FA. This is not Tuchel's fault nor is it his problem to fix. Furthermore, we also have had a foreign female coach with the Lionesses for a number of years (she's Dutch), but that's not been a problem, especially the success with a Euros win and a first World cup final. So why is having the same for the men's side such a problem?
Because the ethnonationalists don't think women's football is a real sport.
I don't get the hate. Didn't England already had foreign managers for their national team?? Also what did English managers have done with England national team for the past 12 years?
Yeah exactly. Still I would prefer Pep over Southgate as Sweden National Team coach. Finland is the little brother they can have Southgate if they want him.
Modern People: ... If i can complain, i will complain ... because feelings cannot be verified ... i can be offended by anything even if it doesnt make sense ...
I think many pundits are missing the point, we all agree that it would be preferable to have an English manager, but when there is such a disparity between Tuchel and all the English options in terms of quality, surely the extra chance of winning something is more important.
We all know the punditry world is pure chumocracy, if it had been Klopp Carragher would have been all over it, if it was Guardiola, Neville would have jizzed his pants, because none of them have a personal relationship with Tuchel they don't support him.
Bro, as a Chelsea fan, what Tuchel did in the space of 18 months was incredible. He is so good at tournaments. We reached 6 finals, winning 3. In his first six months, he beat:
- Pep Guardiola 3 times
- José Mourinho
- Jürgen Klopp
- Diego Simeone 2 times
- Carlo Ancelotti
- Zinedine Zidane
As a Chelsea fan, we all know that Tuchel is what we need. Chilwell LB, you heard it here first
Small correction: Carsley is English. Born here, lived here, both parents English, but with Irish heritage
Nobody complains about our German royal family, but they loose their minds when we appoint a German as our football manager?! The math ain't mathing.
I think touchel is a proven winner. Do we really need anything else? If we win a trophy, we will quickly forget his nationality. So why worry now?
Love the appointment of Thomas Tuchel. Can't wait for the world cup.
As an 18 year old I do not understand why people are so adamant on having an English manager. I do not care about what nationality our national team manager is as long as they offer exciting football. Southgate did not 💀
He'll at least bring cohesion, adaptability and direction to the team. A definitive style is probably not possible since that requires deliberate customized squad building over a long period of time. With Tuchel you guys have just dramatically increased your chances of winning the world cup.
German here, and I joked that Tuchel should be tried for treason in Germany for becoming England manager, but just a joke given our rivalry. And I genuinely don’t mind a foreigner as Bundestrainer. But seriously, I expected English black humour or sarcasm about this at worst, not outright hate from the media and those useless pundits.
Is there really a rivalry between us? I thought it was quite one sided considering how much more successful you are than us.
Jose Mourinho speaks 5 languages fluently, Tuchel like 4 and Guardiola now is at least 4. Alonso at least 4. The biggest hinderance is that english coaches probably can't manage a modern multilingual and multinational top team, Ironically is Hodgson can impressively speak 5+ languages.
Strange how the likes of Carragher and Neville played for England under Sven, they didn’t seem to have an issue with a Swede managing the team.
Personally, I don’t care where the manager is from as long as he gets the team playing half decent football so I may actually be bothered to watch them.
Carra's reason for objecting to a German manager is different. He's said it a few times that he feels international football is the best of what one country has got vs the best of what other countries have got, and that means not just players but also managers. To him, it feels like having a foreign manager is, therefore, cheating, like bringing in a foreign ringer to play a position your national team is weak in. In his case, it's not xenophobia or a "how are our managers going to get better if we don't give them opportunities" argument.
its going to be a hell for tuchel. The hate from press, top class players and fans. it won't be easy. lots of critisism and doubts
England national team with an ACTUAL COUCH is so scary cause they have SUCH great players but... the only thing the english media can THINK OF is that the man is german...ffs drowning in a puddle situation
What about a chaise longue?
It seems england fans agree tuchel was a good appointment, all the media seems to have an issue. Surprise surprise the people employed to talk about football seem to be the most out of touch
Some people just think we should have an English coach for the England team, it's not about hating Tuchel or Germans or any other foreigners. When people talk about how the English are somehow uniquely unpleasant and racist in wanting a coach from their own country no one seems to point out that other major nations don't have foreign coaches. France, Germany, Italy, Spain, even the Netherlands with a smaller population, all prefer to go local.
as someone living in poland you know that we had 3 non polish coaches 1 we love (Leo Beenhakker) 2 were fails (sousa and santos) but best succeses (if we can call exit of a group stage and 1/4 of euro) were with polish coaches without any internation recognition so we will see with england team
The fact that no english manager ever won the Premier, floored me. I keep forgetting Ferguson is *scottish.*
I don't know if you've done this but make a vid on the chaos of international football outside Europe
In England, it costs 4000 for coaching badges in Spain it cost 500 euros. Plus, the EPL has the most money, so it can cherry-pick managers from other leagues.
Say what you want about Luis Enrique's spanish career but he definitely started the spark that became the fire that's the current Spanish team.
Big Sam Allerdyce is the best English manager to manage the national team, only manager with 100% win rate with them 🔥🔥
Never conceded a goal, never knocked out of a major tournament.
So they're cool with Sven-Göran Eriksson (a Swede) and Fabio Capello (an Italian) now that a lot of time has passed, but not Thomas Tuchel (a German)? I'm not following this at all
I'm not understanding the fuss...Jamie and Gary both played under Sven, RIP. Also, Capello was England coach as well.
Best thought out and well rounded piece on all media platforms.
Good job Viz!
as a german, i would expect (but oppose) similar outrage if the DFB hired a foreign manager. Not even specifically a british one, but any foreign manager would be outrageous in the eyes of a german simple mind.
I made a comment on a different video stating that i think Tuchel is a great appointment, but it's embarrassing that we don't produce quality anymore but import it. No responses.
On a separate video i made the point that due to the nature of the Premier league demanding the best no matter what country they're from it's hard for aspiring English managers to get adequate experience in what is the most competitive league in the world. One response telling me I'm "utterly clueless" and that "The Premier league is actually a great platform for upcoming English coaches"
I don't know if people who may agree are out there but it would seem we're in great denial about how pants we are.
Lee Carsley is English not Irish. He played for ROI because of a family member so he qualified for it. Sorry, that was a nitpick.
As a german its so funny. We can only win
@@MrMarmite5164 how do you know
Buddy you can't win if England wins the World Cup stop lying to yourself
@@MrMarmite5164 wer bist du Knecht den, dass du mich hier von der Seite vollchattest.
@@UnitedReds99 oh lets be real england has a really strong team and will most likely win sth. If not its win scenario 1. If you win under tuchel we will always let you know, that you need a german to win. Thats winscenario 2. The only thing that would be not cool if tuchel defeats Nagelsmann on a big stage, that would be just pity for nagelsman. But everything else i am fine with
@@peterknote223 Fair enough my German brother it's all good banter between us. Tbh as long as we win something I won't even care if a German manager wins it for us, at the end of the day you've always been better than us and won a lot more World Cups and European Championships so its a good thing we have a German to hopefully get us over the line 😂
True. It’s discrimination based on person’s nationality.
Whilst I have always thought that each nation should have a manager of the same nationality as the team does for consistency more than anything, Tuchel does not deserve the hate he has got. This would not happen if it was Klopp or Pep being appointed...
Better to have a german manager who knows what he's doing rather than an english manager with the tactical prowess of a wet sock. We've had foreign managers before, the current bloke is Irish, who should care as long as we win stuff for a change.
The people talking like this is some atrocity clearly dont know about history before the 1930s.
The ethnic english ancestors of today (Saxons and Jutes) migrated to England from Germany.
That was over a thousand years ago so it's not really relevant to the discussion.
@gloriousegghead it's relevant to the discussion because that blood runs through the veins of 99% of the people talking this BS, it is literally the dominant haplogroup of England.
@@NomadH02 It’s not relevant.
@gloriousegghead it is relevant because the whole idea of not wanting a German managing england for most people comes from a tribal mentality, these such people are having a tribal mentality against quite literally their own bloodline, which they are completely unaware of, making their whole rouse obsolete
Whether it happened 1000 years ago or yesterday doesn't change anything, the facts are concrete and the facts are that the absolute majority of Englishmen descend from germanic blood and the people who have built this country over a thousand years toward what it is today are from germanic stock. Hell, the Saxon migrants from Germany literally created the game of football in England, literally couldn't be more relevant.
@@NomadH02 Not only is it not relevant it’s also not entirely true.
I believe the criteria for playing for a national team is having been born in the country, having lived there for 5+ years or having a parent/grandparent from the country. I think a good compromise would be to apply those same criteria to the manager. Which would mean that Klopp, Arteta, Moyes or Guardiola could be England manager. Tuchel could have been on his way to being eligible had Chelsea not sacked him.
Quality of Life!!! Also a factor.
Look at how many successful Spanish,German,Italian/French coaches are there, they value quality of life far more than the English.
They don't always play 3 games a week, better weather and food, way WAY less media and fans scrutiny, and their governments mostly treat them right and have blooming or growing economies.
I think the busy schedule,bad weather, media scrutiny wears English players brains out and with the government and economy, they all become pundits or RUclipsrs or bang average coaches, but mostly alcoholics with marital problems and child alimony🤦
Also the fact that there is no proper squad debt, look up Luis aragones 555, you will see why Spains 4 best Left back is better than England's ONE Luke shaw(we still waiting 😅🤦).
Why is there a man with British flags why would Scotland n Ireland and wales give any shit about England manager
Vizeh is such a rationale person that I actually forgot he's English himself until he said 'we'
Keep up the good work. Love your video essays and make sure to watch all of them as they are so rich.
It's wild how people are so pressed over this. We absolutely wouldn't have this sort of hate for Pep Guardiola.
The Welsh have always found a manager from Wales and we’ve got a much smaller pool to choose from.. if players need to be English to play for England, the same rule should apply to the manager too
There aren't a lot of good coaches in the market thats why u have chelsea getting maresca and Bayern getting kompany
Both of them learned tactics from the greatest tactician in football history.
@@thierryhenry674Yeah and so did Ten Hague and look where that's got us
@@UnitedReds99 Ten Hag/managers in general aren't the problem at Utd
pretty fascinating that both the inventors of football (ENG) as well as the record world champion (BRA) have an obvious coaching (development) problem
Fun fact: the Spanish national team has never had a non-Spanish coach. They’ve always had great coaches to choose from. But here in Canada, no one expects a Canadian coach. We had a Spanish coach for a while. But we actually qualified for the World Cup for the first time in 36 years with an English coach. So go figure.
There’s this statistic that goes around that every World Cup winning team has had a coach from the same country.
It seems in the eyes of these journalists, pundits, arrogant fans, etc, breaking that mold would be a condemnation against the nation for not producing good coaches.
By the way, England has had foreign born coaches before like Eriksson and Capello. I guess it’s because of this one sided rivalry that England has with Germany that makes it like “harder” for the old heads to accept.
English media is toxic, let's see what Tuchel does, I guess they wanted to snap him up while he was available, he has won stuff at club level. If Postecoglou can win something with Spurs, a team as trophyphobic as England, maybe he should be next England manager.
Carsley was born and raised in England though it's not the same. He qualified for Ireland through a grandmother.
I don't think most people are saying we develop the best coaches we don't Tuchel is better than any English manager right now but wanting an English manager for the English national team isn't a bad thing. Ofcourse if we win something I won't care Tuchel isn't English.
I have never seen such a weird and stupid reaction a managerial appointment in any sport ever. Sven and Fabio were welcomed. This is, on paper a much better appointment then any England manager in decades. Time will tell. But certainly it is the best available coach in world football. The fa have smashed it.
It really wasn't any different back for previous managers, go search the daily mail and you'll see they ran an article at the time of Sven's appointment with the headline: "We've sold our birthright down the fjord to a nation of seven million skiers and hammer throwers who spend half their lives in darkness", and for Capello's: "We havent even got the best Italian". Controversy sells papers and generates clicks at the end of the day and that's exactly what the media are doing.
We would have the same discussion in Germany with any foreign trainer. it's sad, but that's the reality. I'm not surprised at all, and I hope Tuchel will prove all the haters wrong. Greets from Germany. And yes: I'm serious here. I hope you win the World Cup with Tuchel.
In the USA, everyone was excited when we hired Pochettino. Seeing the contrast across the pond makes we want to clutch my pearls. Both Poch and Tuchel are objectively better than their predecessors
It's interesting that European football is using quantum tactics, and it trickled down to the managerial level. Unfortunately, Gareth Southgate was affected. If that was some second football country like the US, he would have a statue in NY right now for reaching something equivalent to the FA Emirates Cup. That will not cut it in England, especially in a super competitive continent.
Lee Carsley has won Euro under 21. He should have not been sacked immediately after 1 loss with an inspired Greek side. Tuchel is a definite upgrade, but the unintended consequence is that it ruins the England FA coaching system.
I'm excited for it. We as a nation just spent 8 years complaining about Gareth Southgate, and now we have a Champions League winning manager.
Bro your videos are always so quiet. Hit up an audio engineer to give you some free plugins for your workflow so that you can meet a standard set volume throughout your projects. Great video as always. (Stable volume does boost slightly.)
Ah, the animosity of English people towards us Germans, a generation after the war. When I was on a school exchange trip in Chelmsford 20 years ago, somebody screamed "We've won the war!" at us every day. WWII runs deep, and I can't blame them. Here in Hamburg, at least once a week there is an evacuation going on because they found another 500pound bomb dud somewhere. This war will haunt us for quite some time, but Thomas Tuchel could turn out to be a terrific signing for you lads :D
No one complains if Pep or Jurgen were appointed.
True!
Your spot on mate but the problem isnt who is in charge of England. Its the awful quality of terrible pundits giving ridiculous opinions like this. And i saw the Sam Wallace articles a few days ago another problem being the massive decline in the country of poor journalism!!!