@@Ricardo-i3s7f It matters not when you stupidly admit to your corruption, the second you indulged in corruption is when your career was truly ruined. You will always know in your heart when you sold out and it will always haunt you!
Honestly when you think about it the videos are nothing, for him to lose his career when you have certain players continue playing despite WORSE acts, mmm
@@mattanderson8575 Very true, but it is more than just a simple insult. To call someone a c 3 times in one sentence and even put their nationality in front of it reveals a deep seated resentment, referees are obligated to report any kinda of preference or non-preference for any clubs, they are then not assigned to those clubs, that is an existing PGMOL protocol. As he subsequently officiated at several Liverpool matches, we can conclude he did not inform the PGMOL of his deep seated resentment of Klopp and Liverpool, so no stonewall evidence of corruption, but clear lack of professional integrity.
What are his henchmen called then? The “soccarios”? (I hereby sincerely apologise for using the s-word to describe football. I confess, that it might be even more offensive, than using the c-word to refer to Jürgen Klopp)
@@agustintrivino9365I’m not sticking up for guy here, cause the definition of a “cricketer” is in the name. It’s possible, he’s not ever seen it being played. Outside of England, or at least in North America there are people that have no idea what Cricket is 🤷🏽♂️
@@vinylhorrorThat's bollocks mate. The guy was being facetious and trying to be a smartarse. I'm from Ireland and I've never known somebody who has played Lacrosse, never seen a game of Lacrosse and have never heard of Lacrosse being mentioned in a conversation. I still know what Lacrosse is lmao. Cricket is bigger globally than Lacrosse. It's not like you're talking about something that is completely regional.
He makes me laugh so much. I swear I’ve seen a ref 3 paces behind and just throws his offside flag bc he can’t keep up. Now imagine him doing it in a gimp suit
I think it’s a bit naive to assume that referees wouldn’t risk jeopardizing their personal careers, just as footballers might. We’ve already seen players like Tonali and Toney make questionable decisions despite the risks.
sure, but the point is that they largely wouldn't, not that they totally wouldn't. There's always a risk, but most of them will know better and not do it
It's a bit different though, referees could jeopardise their careers for corruption out of greed, and players can also gamble out of greed, but a lot of the time this is due to gambling addictions, sound minded top level footballers would know that the risks of gambling isn't worth the possible gain.
I think addiction, especially gambling addiction, is quite different though. Especially when you have oodles of money and “can’t see the harm in it”. If Coote was found to have a gambling addiction (which at this rate could happen any second now 😂), I’d be even more concerned about his impartiality. Whether he’d blatantly jeopardise his career for a team he doesn’t like with no gain for himself? I don’t know. Especially because he is unlikely to have the money that players like Toney and Tonali have. Definitely not impossible though, I guess we’ll see what comes out in the wash 🤷🏻♂️
Agreed, it's also very naive to believe that the Premier League is the only league immune to refereeing corruption (unlike literally every other league in the world who has)
He’s potentially been blackmailed for years. Videos suddenly appearing during an international break so it’s the only news, I’m guessing there’s worse to come
@@Shanks-km3ss Because possibilities without any evidence or any suggestion that is the case are not newsworthy. They have reported on the things that actually happened...
@@edmanning274 we didn’t have evidence of his actions for four years and it’s only just come out. I haven’t said he was bribed but there is the possibility as someone had had this video over him for four years. So the question is valid. But no one seems to want to raise it in the media. They were all to busy the first few days after the video saying “if it’s him” even after he came out and admitted it was him in the video
@@Shanks-km3ss You've made another assumption... how do you know the person who released it had it for four years? The person who took it could have shared or sold it a month ago (he's a failed professional cricketer so there's incentive). If anything its evidence that he didn't comply with the threats / blackmail because they released the video.
so hypothetically: if a walmart employee had to deal with a nightmare customer, and then later on was filmed, out of hours, referring to that customer as the c word, should they be fired? or would they be fired but undeservedly?
Klopp was more of a work colleague from another department than a customer but I'm sure you think he should have been sacked for all the times he complained about referees in public,in private and to the colleague's face.
I don't see what the big deal is, unless he took unfair decisions against Liverpool. I think every referee has his likes and dislikes. Does anyone seriously think someone became a football referee without liking football? Or that they liked football without liking one team or hating another? If anything, at least this guy is honest who he dislikes.
I never believed in the corruption of referees. Incompetence and unintentional bias, yes, but not corruption. I am no longer certain about that. Some VAR ref admitted that he didn't send a ref to the monitor 'because he was having a bad game'? There's no excuse for that. They are too ready to support each other at the expense of the game. Make VAR a separate entity and keep the refs away from it.
It's probably minimal tbh. But there is always a risk, sure. I still don't really get why the public doesn't get to hear the referee chats for VAR calls, they should absolutely be public. Ideally I think we largely replace refs by AI at some point
@@maciejbala477what makes you think the people programming the AI will be any better. In my opinion you can't replicate the speedy, quality, nuanced decision making that a person can do you close on the pitch The AI salesbros are in your head Problem with refs is: 1. They're not being selected or rotated based on form. No churn is bad for any workforce in terms of quality and innovation. 2. There genuinely is a toxic culture at the moment where there is no respect given to referees - because of broadcasting and the circus surrounding football. I'm sure there are great refs out there in the lower leagues who would do better than the 'AI' - just theyre not making it to the top and the media circus is making it an unattractive job not worth the stress or effort.
@@maciejbala477 Its also insane that the overseers of those making the calls and whose job it is to fix the mistakes of the refs are other refs who personally know each other. It's exactly how police departments become corrupt, when the group overseeing them knows them personally they're less likely to scrutinize them.
@@tjm756I agree it shouldnt be AI, VAR should be a separate group of people from the refs. People trained specifically for VAR, who have no connections to any of the referees and don't associate with them.
@@nealrigga6969Ghana failed to qualify for the AFCON for only the first or second time this century I think. Which is crazy because qualifying for AFCON is usually a bare minimum for bigger countries in Africa like Ghana. To add to that, their group should have been easy on paper, yet they’re currently bottom of it and out already with one game left.
Aint there only been four afcon tourneys?? So saying its the first time theyve failed to qualify this centuary sounds far worse than theyve failed once out of four or five times they have!!haha
The possibility of implicit bias is hardly a controversial suggestion given Cootes ongoing distain for Klopp. Given the poor performance in Coote other games then it is likely to have an impact. Given that trust in officials is an issue. Add to that the attitude of the people he surrounds himself, it increases the likelihood of implicit bias.
Personally, I disagree with your take at around 27:20 , in a world with VAR, you can definitely still get away with giving more 50/50's to one team over another, as long as you don't do anything stupid or obvious, you can definitely get away with it.
we see it every week,just slow down a tackle replay from an angle that suits a red card..or simply look at a shirt pull during a corner for a cheap penalty...the game is very open for manipulation even more so than before VAR.VAR is a betting syndicates wet dream
sure, I agree. But it has to be 50/50s and not blatantly obvious errors which in a pre-VAR world you'd get away with. That's why cheating is more difficult. It's never impossible, but it used to be much easier
Also, this is a job where like it or not, perception matters. A ref is essentially a judge on the field, and if their impartiality can be reasonably questioned, the whole edifice starts to break down. I'm not surprised at the reactions to this, and the league chooses to ignore it at their own continuing peril. But what do I know? Maybe they sweep this under the rug and no one cares. It's just hard to blame people for this gradually escalating feeling that something isn't right - where there's smoke...
alfie, here's the issue with your entire premise. you say that refs can separate the manager they have beef with from their decisions, but every psychological study on the subject has shown that when you have an issue with someone it will lead to implicit bias. do i think coote directly and knowingly made calls against liverpool? no. do i think his issues with klopp subconsciously had him either make calls or no calls against liverpool? yes. i also think both of these incidents plus the island party with the girls incident shows just how much of an old boys club the pgmol is and how little oversight and accountability they have. there needs to be a change and a deep reflection of pgmol.
Subconscious bias undoubtedly exists, but that is the case with all referees (and all human beings), so it's not unique to Coote, unless we think he's the only referee who hasn't got on with a manager. In terms of oversight and accountability, the best referees in England referee in the Premier League. If we want better referees, we need more refs and more competition. Right now, people don't want to become referees, so there is a shortage (as I covered in a previous video), and in all honesty, who can blame them?
Maybe this is an education for managers; if you're kind to referees and don't often shout in their faces, they won't think you're a c**t. This may lead to them liking you more and being subconsciously biased towards you.
Yeah but you can make that argument about every referee. Every referee will have opinions on managers, so they'll all suffer from the same unconscious bias towards managers and teams. The only difference here is Coote has voiced his opinion on a manager. I really don't understand how you can blame the PGMOL here. What do you expect them to do? Police their behaviour when they aren't working?
@@HITCSevens I don't know why when it comes to football every fan just turns stupid. Every bit of logical thinking and common sense leaves their head and they become these cult members or fangirls of a Kpop band.
I hope this referee and his family are okay and have understanding friends and family. At Uni. I had someone pretend to be a ‘friend’ to see if they could get me onto highly addictive Class A substances. By the end of the year it turned out they’d dealt drugs to most (mainly the academically brightest) in our faculty (sleeping with some). She was working for a dangerous villain, who in turn pressured her to get ‘dirt’ on those partaking while under the influence, so as to blackmail them afterwards. Offering to send the same to parents, the university or their new employers. This smells a lot like that to me.
Yes @ and being from a rural family, it’s not a part of modern society I’d ever come into contact with before. Luckily I had an upbringing that helped avoid such pitfalls but one of the other students ended up in a very bad way. He’d gone into finance straight after graduating and they still had their hooks in him. He ended up having a mental breakdown and gave everything he’d done for them to the Police. Poor lad- it nearly killed him. He’s not got a career anymore and is rebuilding life away from anyone who knew him before.
As a Liverpool fan pre video Coote was notorious for being pretty bad when he refed our games. He was even mysteriously taken off Liverpool games in the past.
Oh so he made some bad calls against Liverpool? Demonstrate this isn't simply confirmation bias. How many bad calls did he make against everyone else? How many bad calls did everyone else make against Liverpool? How many bad calls did he make for Liverpool? You can't simply say oh look at this bad thing, he's clearly biased
@@jekanyika I never accused you of saying that though. I'm saying I think your opinion here is confirmation bias. And then told you what make me believe it isn't. Edit: to be clear, my last sentence isn't an accusation towards you, it's an impression of the logical extreme of the confirmation bias thing
Belgium and Holland actually did have a referee exchange program some time ago. It didn't really make anything better or worse so it was quickly discarded.
I think you make a great point about stupidity. Everyone sees it as malice. He should be allowed to have his opinions the same way everyone does. bringing up his whole career really shows that coote should have been able to put his bias aside because he should care a lot about his career.
Are judges allowed to express their opinions about defendants, witnesses, lawyers in the way Coote did? He’s shown a huge lack of judgment and professionalism which are attributes the refs need in abundance. I really can’t see how he can carry on as a ref.
@@molybdomancer195 100% agree with you. I don't think he should be allowed to ref. But I do think the point that the ref's stupidity shouldn't be taken as a conspiracy. They're in every club but I can already hear some annoying fans saying that they didn't win the title because of a conspiracy within the refs because of this whole situation
Saying there is no evidence of bias affecting games is not factually correct. There is plenty of evidence of bias from referees. We've seen refs admitting to this on camera.
The more serious concern, in my opinion, is the creation and then leaking of the video potentially being part of a blackmail scheme. It's completely plausible in this situation and very concerning.
To lean into the conspiracy, its interesting that he wasn’t involved for any pool games for 3 years after the video was filmed ( which may mean the PGMOL knew about the video), plus he was involved in some big non decisions the past few seasons.
@@T.E.S.S.If a guy makes a mistake while he's drunk on a single occassion, I don't think that a reasonable person could argue this demonstrates he has poor judgement and thus shouldn't be trusted to referee again.
@@macmuggo5459 He wasn't "drunk", and there are multiple videos. Recording yourself snorting substances while on a work trip would be a sackable offence in most jobs. And having stuff like that out there leaves him open to blackmail.
I usually agree with you Alfie but i think you are very naive in thinking that bias doesn’t come into referees’ decision making, both conscious and unconscious bias, especially when with VAR we seem to be seeing more decisions than ever before that refs could realistically get away with giving either way. Just like us they probably have a team that they’d prefer to win. Sure we have no proof but you can never prove that, all we can do is weigh up the evidence and i’d say that right now personal bias plays a huge role in refereeing decisions in England. Employing non-English refs would at least eliminate some of this bias, and they wouldn’t form some mates’ alliance where they all set out to protect each other and are never held accountable
The best thing that could come from this is an FA clampdown on abuse towards referees, similar to that in rugby. Whether you think Coote ended up being biased against Liverpool or not, do you think he'd have had any ill will towards Klopp if Klopp wasn't constantly harassing, abusing and trying to intimidate referees? No, because he'd have no reason to because all of their exchanges would have been cordial. Therefore he'd have no conscious or unconscious bias to potentially act on in the first place.
@EMAH669 I never said he was the only manager, but we're talking about the Klopp-Coote situation. Whether it's Klopp or anyone else, the abuse of refs needs to stop. The country is already struggling for refs from grassroots up.
In NFL as part of a union dispute, the NFL dropped all the referees, and used a bunch of non-unionized refs to break the strike. The standard of refereeing plummeted. Several High profile mistakes in every single match. I think the whole think lasted 3 weeks, before the NFL broke. Met the union's demands and begged the refs to return.
And as a result, nothing exceptional happens to them regardless of how bad they are. The union will hold that over the NFL's head for all eternity, as they should. The issue is that because of that incident, there is next to no accountability.
@nicholastricarico2957 sure, however the NFL probably shouldn't have let it get to a strike. The NFL could have met the demands but attached them to accountability measures. They're only in the position they're in now because they devalued and disrespected them. Tried to bypass them altogether and forced the referees to show them that they weren't fucking around
I'd like it if PGMOL had guts and just refused to officiate any matches of the teams whose managers or fans they deem to have 'crossed the line'. That's a long time coming.
Calling the Ødegaard hand ball alledged is wild, beleive the evidance of your own eyes. Even the PGMOL said he got it wrong. Your example of managers having a go at referees is not wrong, but when they are getting basic decisions wrong, what do people expect. Its always "they are only human" when its the officials but the players and managers...... well! The standars of the officials has been an issue for such a long time. I know some decisions are subjective but the amount of time they get the most basic stuff wrong the question of incompidentce or corruption will remain. The amount of stories we have heard from players too - Ben Foster "assist for mike Dean" for example.
Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool win ratio dropped by 12% from 67% to 55% whenever David Coote was involved. As you say, it's a possibility not a probability but that drop off is far too much a coincidence to not be investigated.
@learntooilpaint he made a decision in a game between Everton v City not giving a clear and blatant handball against Rodri which had he given it, would have seen City drop 2 points leaving Liverpool Champions by 1 point but failed to do so. He also failed to send off Pickford for that horrendous tackle on VVD, denied Liverpool a perfectly onside winner in the same match, failed to give handball against Martin Odegaard who dragged the ball with his hand, failed to send off Doku and award Liverpool a penalty v City for high boot claiming they both come in high when only Doku does, and in his last game claimed no foul on Salah the last man dragging Salah down, not play advantage, no foul. You say it doesn't attribute much, but it's cost Liverpool a league title in 21/22 and 4 points off the tally last season giving Arsenal and City both an additional 1. The table might remain the same sure, but it's still an injustice. Then factor in the Spurs game with Diaz goal etc it then puts Liverpool Arsenal and City all in around 90-91 points, we can't say for sure what would have happened in the run in then but we've been robbed of the chance to see a genuine 3 way title race. Also that's a huge drop off in win percentage, I'm not saying it's purely 100% down to him but there's far too much in it not to be coincidental, any fanbase who would be in the same position would all say the same and I'd agree fully. I wouldn't want to win if it was unfair and I'd hate to lose to one or several injustices. Give me 2nd fairly over 1st dubiously anytime. The fact fans are so divided on this worries me for the sport, sportsmanship is dying more and more if its not already dead.
@@liamwood7432 no it's not. I don't go by just one video. I go by the opta stats and it's down to 55% from 67% wherever Coote has been involved either reffing or on VAR duties. Do some research.
As a former Batam resident, namedropping the city where I grew up is unexpected. Edit: I also want to add thaf Batam is indeed quite the place for night entertainment and golf especially if you're from Singapore and looking for cheaper alternative, compared to its norther neighbor Johor.
"This is not a defence of David Coote..." Sure sounds like it when you make claims that there is 'no evidence' of his biases affecting his decisions, when that statement is spoken like fact, when it's actually your subjective opinion. Evidence doesn't have to mean definitive proof.
He called the manager a c*nt four times but we’re not to imply bias against him and his team? He didn’t say that about any other manager or team. Pointing out that officials get abuse is not equivalent - Jose Mourinho is not making decisions that affect that officials livelihood. Allowing yourself to be recorded saying that just shows how rampant the bias is. He should be sacked for the first video and there should be a full flung investigation into the PGMOL. Between their obvious biases and the refusal to enforce FFP the game is suffering on the field.
Cootes being part of the refereeing team that didn't give the most obvious handball(so obvious that the UEFA came out and apologised to the German FA) in recent history to Germany, while being on tape calling Klopp a German c+nt, is nothing to be worried about folks. Everything is fine, nothing to see here, just pass along.
Not necessarily. I seriously doubt Coote has a vendetta against the entire country of Germany because he called Klopp a "German cunt". If youve ever flippantly called someone names before youll pick anything to add on. Examples: Spanish cunt, short cunt, fat cunt, one-legged cunt. Doesnt mean you hate everyone with a specific characteristic. But yes, that handball decision was atrocious
David Coote didn’t referee that game, he was at the France vs Portugal match which happened the same day. Such information has been public on UEFA’s sites weeks before the controversy. You’re feeding into the exact behavior criticized in the video, conjuring up conspiracies based on hearsay that is in fact incorrect.
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 698) Alternativly you could do "Best German players who played outside the Bundesliga" or something like that if you prefer. I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored. If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
It's really shocking how underrated German players are outside of Germany. Neymar is a superstar and Thomas Müller isn't even though only one was really successful.
@cyan_oxy6734 Muller isn't as fun to watch and hasn't got the flair nor skill that Neymar has. Plus the Bundesliga isn't competive so nobody outside Germany watches
@@fabioorlando8787 Nobody except Germans and Bayern will remember Muller. He played in a boring league, with a boring team, in a boring country, playing boring football. He's a great player, but we're not going to remember him here in England. I don't care it's just a fact.
“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity” Fair. However, the brazen stupidity you cushion on is basically what corruption is. Doing the wrong thing so brazenly because (you believe) you’ll likely not get caught. And corruption has malicious consequences. You pointed to instances of questionable behaviour that included other referees. And many more could possibly be mentioned. This adds weight to the other perspective as well: there’s more to this than meets the eye (or nose). To cushion on “brazen stupidity” is to insult the intelligence of (and likely exonerate) those involved. This is about more than Coote. Considering how many referees have displayed “brazen stupidity” in their private times on some level, which is more likely: the PGMOL as a collective is stupid, or there’s massive amounts of corruption there?
And if anyone asks for examples of other referees being “brazenly stupid”, a quick one is Michael Oliver, Daniel Cook, and Darren England reffing a game in Dubai at the invitation of the Man City ownership prior to the Luis Diaz gaffe last year. Must be a collective stupidity.
Another example of "brazen stupidity" is a bunch of referees going to Thailand a few years ago and being photographed with questionable ladies draped over them!! Far East betting syndicates? Coote and Friend were two of the referees, but I can't recall the others. A search of the internet should turn up the picture or at least articles about the picture!
@@edwardpalmer6409 I get this and I’m inclined to agree. I don’t think it works for every situation, though. In other instances, it is the abuse of power. For example, when Boris Johnson hosted a party that flouted Covid rules, there really wasn’t malicious intent in as much as there was brazen stupidity. That is, he very likely felt he wouldn’t get caught (or punished) for abusing his power. But we can all agree it was corrupt. The referee issue could be one of those. The brazenness is the point. All of this is also to say that we shouldn’t dismiss the possibility JUST because there isn’t (yet) any proof of corruption. It’d be prudent to assess and rule out the possibility definitively instead of accepting that all the questionable behaviour is merely stupidity.
Alfie how do you get 20-30+ minutes out of things like this? We've all already heard about it and there just isn't 31 minutes worth of things to talk about that we don't know about
I'm pretty certain that referees are supposed to be unbiased. So if you have personal feelings about any manager or are rating how a team plays then you really shouldn't be a referee. Because you're biased. Obviously it takes a certain type of character to want to be a referee (or policeman) (and you can say and think whatever you will about that type of person and you'd probably be right) but they're still expected to be professional. That they are human is a bare fact, but nonetheless their entire job is predicated on them being professional.
"Don't have opinions" is an impossible task. "Have your opinions and be professional" is exactly what you do when your livelihood depends on it. And as the video explains, that's exactly what's supposed to happen.
I know that at league level, and possibly lower down, refs are asked to declare any teams they support or have connections with. They then won't be given games featuring those teams. This may be extended to rival teams e.g. you wouldn't want a lifelong gooner refereeing Spurs. Whether they are asked about teams they specifically don't like, I don't know. I do remember that when match information used to show where the ref was from ref, they often tended to be from small towns without League clubs like Sudbury or Yate.
@@nickvickers3486 If you want to be a referee in football then it's guaranteed that you like football and thus either supported a local club or a bigger club. I did also read ages ago that they have to declare any affiliation or teams that they support so, as you say, you won't end up with a tottenham supporter refereeing a north london derby, for example. It shouldn't really matter as referees are supposed to be professional and whether they like or dislike a player or club shouldn't be relevant.. They're supposed to be like legal judges and take themself off the case/game if they feel like they can't judge/referee it without prejudice.
I like the part where he says VAR will take care of any obvious mistakes..... Lemme say it again, the best part of this video is where he says VAR will take care of any obvious mistakes (Tottenham Vs Liverpool, 23/24) 🤣
Another example of someone speaking about this event and waving away the xenophobia from Coote. As well as the AT BEST incompetence of several very very poorly officiated games as a ref and VAR assistant that prompted initial skeptical analysis of Coote even prior to this video being released. The video leak was confirmation of a suspicion that already existed around his bias/incompetence, Liverpool fans didn't see it and work backwards
what do you mean? He literally said that Coote's career is most likely finished and that the xenophobic comment (which he said constitutes racial discrimination by English FA rules) was part of it
Lyon should really deserve this video. In the past, they are used to be Ligue 1 powerhouse with 7 consecutive league titles, but now, the club were struggling to return back their success (they were in last place for the first few games the last season), and now even found themselves in a difficult situation with possible relegation to Ligue 2 as a result of financial difficulties.
Even if he is guilty of gross stupidity rather than any malice, and he has never deliberately "made a mistake," rather than a genuine one with good faith, when officiating Liverpool matches, he still has to go. He has no credibility left, and everything he does would be questioned from now on. He has bought the game into (even more) disrepute and his position is untenable. Of course many refs have thought and said worse, but not on camera, meaning Coote has no way back now.
“You’d need all the other officials to be aligned on your corruption” Well that’s a good thing that the officials are organised through an official public body and not a private company where they’re completely unaccountable then isn’t it? Corruption due to stupidity is still corruption, just look at the audio from the infamous Chelsea-Spurs game or the officiating in the Spurs-Brighton game from the same season where they handed spurs the win by ignoring two blatant fouls that would have led to penalties and chalking off a Brighton goal for had absolutely nothing wrong with it. And let’s not forget the period of two or three weeks when VAR couldn’t even draw the lines right.
I see the tradition of LFC fans venting their conspiracies without even attempting to engage with the substance of the content is going strong. I'm wondering how many hundreds of years back it goes...
@@fedfed6485 I was referring to vital games in the 20/21 season such as the Merseyside Derby when ludicrous decisions clearly robbed Liverpool of the victory. ie there was 3 of them in the Derby match alone. 🤔🧐
@@paulmcallister8948 I've seen the Mane offside pic again the last few days, and I'm not sure it proves anything. The angle creates an optical illusion. Since we can't have a camera looking at 90 degree angle everywhere on the pitch, we draw the lines. The lines were drawn and I didn't see anything improper there. I'd much rather discuss the video than lines drawn 3.5 years ago ;) Anyway, "all the calls go against us" is something every single team says, as mentioned in the video. My subjective view is that non-top-6 team have it much tougher. But I have no hard evidence.
About your point on referees taking PEDs, a universally known but often forgotten side effect of PEDs such as anabolic agents, the ones that increase muscle mass and strength, is the increased aggression and hyper-masculine behaviours shown because of the heightened testosterone. I don't know whether this would make referees more or less likely to give away cards and fouls but it would definitely affect their reasoning and decision making. So, for me, it would be an absolutely horrible choice to give rest anabolic agents. If its PEDs in general, then they probably already take them, most coffee and all painkillers counts PEDs, but they aren't the kind you were referring to.n
I'm a Liverpool fan and I broadly don't see much wrong with what Coote said. Klopp was often a cunt to referees. As you point out, the use of the phrase 'German cunt' clearly is unacceptable, however, but the broader focus in public discourse on basically everything else is frustrating
@@AzuraeLyonheart oh no, youtuber can't have a different opinion from me! Bet you'd not be telling him to "stick to football" if he agreed with your views.
Any time someone unironically says the refs have an agenda against their club, I automatically start assuming they actually know nothing about football
Some very obvious questions not asked in this here veedeeo: -Is it a coincidence that Coote didnt referee Liverpool for FOUR years after Pickford did VvD and around the same time the German Coont video was made? And in the very next game, there were obvious questions asked about the Bailey/Salah incident. -Similarities to Calciopoli not mentioned - no referees were paid, but referees with favourable statistics were given certain games (and not). -There are statistical material that very much suggests certain trends amongst the refs, especially regarding free kicks and penalties given to foreign vs domestic players. See the works of Paul Tomkins for the last few years. And yes, there are trends for and against various clubs and managers as well (and also for managers, there seems to be a foreign vs domestic thing as well).
I think the current heat that premier league referees are taking is down to three reasons; 1) VAR creates as many problems as it solves. It means that officials are officiating to the rulebook even more than ever, and have to apply some rules that many of us don't fully know about. And when they make mistakes, it makes them look worse, because they made the mistake despite having VAR. 2) refereeing standards are actually worse than they've ever been before. 3) and the biggest current reason; There are some murky and unanswered questions concerning PL officials at the moment. Jurgen Klopp often moaned at them, because Liverpool have always received more bad decisions from officials than other big teams have. Arsenal have also historically received a lot of bad decisions. Meanwhile, Man Utd always did well from the officials, and now there have to be massive questions over whether some referees and officials are biased or have even been corrupted by Manchester City. Why did Anthony Taylor and another referee go to dubai to referee a friendly tournament (run by the Man City owners) and allegedly got paid by them for doing so? So David Coote's remarks come as no surprise to me. Although I think he deserves to lose his job, we should go easy on him though. He seems like a troubled man. But it can't hide the fact that we PGMOL do need to be investigated to make sure it's as impartial as it can be and free of corruption. I get the feeling that although managers won't admit to this, some of them are probably frustrated with officials, because they secretly question how impartial they are.
A manager's opinion cannot change a game, no matter what he says about the ref. A player's opinion cannot change the game, no matter what he says about an official. Every official's opinion changes every game. The media and content creators standing up for Coote seem to skip over fact that he has put the league in a very bad light and there must be something in his contract about that. He was lining up hookers and blow during half-time at the Euros, ffs. PGMOL knew about the video and took Coote off Liverpool games for years. I don't care about the individual calls on the field, I care about not being able to trust a process due zero consistency, inexplicable contradictions and no transparency whatsoever.
whenever theres a scandal it always happens during a international break usually from other sports like cricket or boxing this one is similar but just without the footage having a sun logo across the video
1. Being impartial isn’t part of a manager’s job. So him being recorded slagging off a ref is potentially unpleasant, but not necessarily worse than that. A ref being recorded slagging off a manager is not the same. You can never be certain the ref isn’t going to be unbiased 2. I think you have to live in cloud cuckoo land to watch the video, hear how he talks about Liverpool and Klopp, but not think he presumably agrees with the guy saying “we hate scousers”. I think it is a very very safe assumption that Coote is with him on that one. He shouldn’t ever ref a Liverpool game again 3. Coote is xenophobic. I don’t care if his career gets ruined. I don’t have sympathy for people like that 4. I don’t necessarily think there is a grand referee conspiracy to favour a certain team and screw over a different one. What I absolutely think is true is that there is an agenda in the media and PGMOL to defend refs for absolutely everything possible. There is no reason whatsoever, for example, for refs to not be required to give interviews explaining their bad decisions, when managers and players have to do interviews after games. Get rid of Mike Dean and Dermot Gallagher too unless they decide to stop being ridiculously biased in saying the refs are always right.
You're giving too much respect to refs here. If a Manager comes out and talks about a referee being poor, he gets fined. Everything for a ref is handled "internally".
🏴please make a video exploring the effect that Welsh football has on the Welsh independence movement and Welsh nationalism. the national team's success in recent years has helped dispell the age old myths Wales can't succeed on our own because we're "too small" "too poor" "too stupid". unfortunately though, these myths and an inferiority complex are still prevalent in Welsh football and Welsh society as a whole. take merthyr town fc as an example, they play in the 3rd tier of English non league, but refuse to join the Welsh leagues because they think playing in the English league makes them more important and more respected. it would be great if you did this video
I really want someone to put on ‘The Drugs Olympics’. Where all competitors are allowed to take whatever combination of whatever they think can make them do their sport best.
We really need a video on what's happened to Ghana you'd think a country as good as them would be a top powerhouse in African football but they just failed to qualify for even afcon and judging by recent past results in afcon 21 and this past afcon it's been a long time coming what happened to them after 2010
Alfie, I've been watching your videos for a long time, and whilst I've always appreciated your humour, I have to tell you that it's genuinely a pleasure to see how that element is growing in your videos. Your delivery is getting better every time, your writing is as superb as ever, and I hope it continues long into the future.
I love the evaluative nature of your videos. Its refreshing to see different perspectives on footballing incidents; not just the emotionally charged ones.
I’m a bit surprised by Alfie’s defense of this tbh. He is usually quick to point out corruption, both in football and outside of it, but seemingly turns a blind eye when it comes to this issue, because it’s getting some admittedly wild suggestions from fans of Liverpool. He needs to take the emotion out of it and focus on the facts. What Coote has done is like a regulator publicly calling the CEO of one of the major companies that they are supposed to be regulating a cvnt. It implies that the regulator could (emphasis on could) use his views on the CEO as a factor when applying judgements on the company, which makes a mockery of the impartiality of the regulator. If this happened in any other regulated profession jobs would be lost at minimum, and likely the person would be barred from that position in the future. Refs have to be seen as impartial, otherwise the rules cannot be enforced properly.
I do really appreciate you mentioning that we shouldn't remember Anthony Taylor in a GIMP suit. The entire video that was all in my head but when you reminded us to not remember it 20 minutes or so after first bringing it up, I finally realized my mistake and got it out of my head. So yeah, Appreciate it Alfie.
16:52 în Romania, for a pretty long time, we used to have foreign referees for "high profile" games because of all the suspicions around refereeing (there was actually quite a lot of match-"micromanaging" being done at the time)
17:30 Sorry Alfie, I doubt anyone believes foreign referees would favor clubs just because they share a nationality with certain players or managers. After all, English referees already officiate games where they may come from the same towns or regions as some English players on the field.
Mate, people on twitter will find any tenuous reason to bleat about why their club is being disadvataged by a referee. Forest's complaint that "the VAR is a Luton fan" is one laughable example of that
I think Alfie may have had more fun making this video, particularly the early part, than any other video in recent memory. And I, in turn, enjoyed watching it very much. You're in rare form, Alfie!
Hahah had an aussie camp counselor growing up, and I said the word c*** in front of my mom and she literally slammed on the brakes and pulled over to the side of the road and scolded me. Your summary of the word is spot on 😆😆
The non sending-off or even booking of Jordan Pickford for GBH on VVD was complete bias. Badly damaged Liverpool's season and it was obvious at full speed. Pickford went for Virgil, not the ball.
Supposedly because he was offside Pickford could not be booked. Like to see Konate just smash DCL in the Derby game first time he is offside. Just run at him full pelt and kick his standing leg. Yeah right. Instant red card. But Coote did not have the ref go look at the challenge again.
@@albertbrammer9263 No. the story goes that Coote "forgot" that the offside wiping out a penalty didn't actually excuse the red card violation and so neglected to mention it to Oliver. A professional referee conveniently forgetting the laws of the game and we're supposed to believe that? I'm all for innocent until proven guilty but at some point the series of ridiculous rulings a referee makes against the same club moves from "mistakes and incompetence" to obvious bias and Coote vs Liverpool was well past that point before Saturday's "nothing to see here" wave-off of an obvious DOGSO foul on Salah where he was only saved from ridicule by Nunez scoring.
Just so we're clear, that video cannot go anywhere.
I meant, how hard can it be?
Seriously.
We'll keep it between us.
Oh yeah for sure😮 it's would ruin his career! Hope it misses the pgmol HR
Don't worry, we're good blokes
"Let's not ruin his career" - The guy ruining his career
They both started ruining their careers when they turned into Henry hoovers
@@Ricardo-i3s7f It matters not when you stupidly admit to your corruption, the second you indulged in corruption is when your career was truly ruined. You will always know in your heart when you sold out and it will always haunt you!
Honestly when you think about it the videos are nothing, for him to lose his career when you have certain players continue playing despite WORSE acts, mmm
@@marcusmurphy1481he’s not admitted to any corruption in the video he’s just called Klopp a c*nt and said Liverpool were shit one game he worked
@@mattanderson8575 Very true, but it is more than just a simple insult. To call someone a c 3 times in one sentence and even put their nationality in front of it reveals a deep seated resentment, referees are obligated to report any kinda of preference or non-preference for any clubs, they are then not assigned to those clubs, that is an existing PGMOL protocol. As he subsequently officiated at several Liverpool matches, we can conclude he did not inform the PGMOL of his deep seated resentment of Klopp and Liverpool, so no stonewall evidence of corruption, but clear lack of professional integrity.
Hey Alfie, we need part 2 of "What on Earth is Going On at Lyon" for the people and culture.
I second this
Dey broke.
Also, you should do the ones for Ghana, especially after recent AFCON qualification failure.
aye, Lyon look to be in deep cacky with their debts.
Absolutely need this
David Coote... what a "lines"man!
Linesperson.
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Hahaha
😂😂😂
Coonte*
Nailed it!!😂😂🤜🤛
Pablo Escovar is wild 😂
I laughed way too hard at that line
It's funny isn't it
What are his henchmen called then? The “soccarios”? (I hereby sincerely apologise for using the s-word to describe football. I confess, that it might be even more offensive, than using the c-word to refer to Jürgen Klopp)
The "Unidentified" Person in the Video is Former Notts CCC Cricketer Ben Kitt.
I was wondering why he can't be named, it's not like he's under 18 and they can't by law and I still don't know why they can't name him 🤷🏻♂️😂
What's a "Cricketer"?
No, need to make stuff up just because we don't know who that is and we'll probably never know.
@@cyan_oxy6734a person who plays cricket?
For real, how do you not know that
@@agustintrivino9365I’m not sticking up for guy here, cause the definition of a “cricketer” is in the name. It’s possible, he’s not ever seen it being played. Outside of England, or at least in North America there are people that have no idea what Cricket is 🤷🏽♂️
@@vinylhorrorThat's bollocks mate. The guy was being facetious and trying to be a smartarse. I'm from Ireland and I've never known somebody who has played Lacrosse, never seen a game of Lacrosse and have never heard of Lacrosse being mentioned in a conversation. I still know what Lacrosse is lmao. Cricket is bigger globally than Lacrosse. It's not like you're talking about something that is completely regional.
Appearing on film was a 'clear and obvious error'.
We are going to need a few lines on film to check if that was correct.
Had to stop watching the video for a couple minutes to think about Anthony Taylor in a gimp suit. Ya know for research purposes...
Bro 😭😭😭
He makes me laugh so much. I swear I’ve seen a ref 3 paces behind and just throws his offside flag bc he can’t keep up. Now imagine him doing it in a gimp suit
why... why would you want to think about that
@mattkhanna It's an interesting idea to have the officials on performance enhancing drugs!!
I think it’s a bit naive to assume that referees wouldn’t risk jeopardizing their personal careers, just as footballers might. We’ve already seen players like Tonali and Toney make questionable decisions despite the risks.
sure, but the point is that they largely wouldn't, not that they totally wouldn't. There's always a risk, but most of them will know better and not do it
@@maciejbala477I think your point is a word salad and basically rewording the orignal comment
It's a bit different though, referees could jeopardise their careers for corruption out of greed, and players can also gamble out of greed, but a lot of the time this is due to gambling addictions, sound minded top level footballers would know that the risks of gambling isn't worth the possible gain.
I think addiction, especially gambling addiction, is quite different though. Especially when you have oodles of money and “can’t see the harm in it”. If Coote was found to have a gambling addiction (which at this rate could happen any second now 😂), I’d be even more concerned about his impartiality. Whether he’d blatantly jeopardise his career for a team he doesn’t like with no gain for himself? I don’t know. Especially because he is unlikely to have the money that players like Toney and Tonali have. Definitely not impossible though, I guess we’ll see what comes out in the wash 🤷🏻♂️
Agreed, it's also very naive to believe that the Premier League is the only league immune to refereeing corruption (unlike literally every other league in the world who has)
I'd never allow myself to be filmed doing cocaine; Not that I do cocaine or have ever even done anything illegal
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@@camkai1998 🥳
Hmmmmm!
He’s potentially been blackmailed for years. Videos suddenly appearing during an international break so it’s the only news, I’m guessing there’s worse to come
he won’t starve if he grows his hair long . he’d fit some Goth band needing a Manager .
Finally! I’ve been saying this since the video has come out but no one else especially in the media has raised this as a possibility!!
@@Shanks-km3ss Because possibilities without any evidence or any suggestion that is the case are not newsworthy. They have reported on the things that actually happened...
@@edmanning274 we didn’t have evidence of his actions for four years and it’s only just come out. I haven’t said he was bribed but there is the possibility as someone had had this video over him for four years. So the question is valid. But no one seems to want to raise it in the media. They were all to busy the first few days after the video saying “if it’s him” even after he came out and admitted it was him in the video
@@Shanks-km3ss You've made another assumption... how do you know the person who released it had it for four years? The person who took it could have shared or sold it a month ago (he's a failed professional cricketer so there's incentive).
If anything its evidence that he didn't comply with the threats / blackmail because they released the video.
If I'd been caught on camera calling a customer or a work colleague a cvnt, I'd be instantly dismissed.
You work at a stupid place then. Because you have no obligation to personally like anybody at work nor your customers
Agreed, I also think all managers/players who abuse refs should be sacked on the spot
so hypothetically: if a walmart employee had to deal with a nightmare customer, and then later on was filmed, out of hours, referring to that customer as the c word, should they be fired? or would they be fired but undeservedly?
@rupert909 this is what people are not thinking about. I run bars and if a customer is a c their a c. I'll back my staff all day long.
Klopp was more of a work colleague from another department than a customer but I'm sure you think he should have been sacked for all the times he complained about referees in public,in private and to the colleague's face.
This is wrong; he probably has to go. But in a world where a referee can come back from match-fixing, this is nothing.
Have referees ever come back from match fixing in England?
@@jekanyikaop's probably a deluded scouser or gooner crying about refereeing decisions going against them :)
Has to go? For what? You are an absolute 🔔end lmao
@@jekanyika It will never happen. It will never need to.
"We investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong"
I don't see what the big deal is, unless he took unfair decisions against Liverpool. I think every referee has his likes and dislikes. Does anyone seriously think someone became a football referee without liking football? Or that they liked football without liking one team or hating another? If anything, at least this guy is honest who he dislikes.
I never believed in the corruption of referees. Incompetence and unintentional bias, yes, but not corruption. I am no longer certain about that. Some VAR ref admitted that he didn't send a ref to the monitor 'because he was having a bad game'? There's no excuse for that. They are too ready to support each other at the expense of the game. Make VAR a separate entity and keep the refs away from it.
It's probably minimal tbh. But there is always a risk, sure. I still don't really get why the public doesn't get to hear the referee chats for VAR calls, they should absolutely be public. Ideally I think we largely replace refs by AI at some point
'ideally'? You must be mad 😂
@@maciejbala477what makes you think the people programming the AI will be any better. In my opinion you can't replicate the speedy, quality, nuanced decision making that a person can do you close on the pitch
The AI salesbros are in your head
Problem with refs is:
1. They're not being selected or rotated based on form. No churn is bad for any workforce in terms of quality and innovation.
2. There genuinely is a toxic culture at the moment where there is no respect given to referees - because of broadcasting and the circus surrounding football.
I'm sure there are great refs out there in the lower leagues who would do better than the 'AI' - just theyre not making it to the top and the media circus is making it an unattractive job not worth the stress or effort.
@@maciejbala477 Its also insane that the overseers of those making the calls and whose job it is to fix the mistakes of the refs are other refs who personally know each other. It's exactly how police departments become corrupt, when the group overseeing them knows them personally they're less likely to scrutinize them.
@@tjm756I agree it shouldnt be AI, VAR should be a separate group of people from the refs. People trained specifically for VAR, who have no connections to any of the referees and don't associate with them.
Alfie, when are we getting the “What’s going on at Lyon” or “What’s going on in Ghana” videos 😂
I know about Lyon, but what happened with Ghana? I haven’t been following Africa football
@@nealrigga6969Ghana failed to qualify for the AFCON for only the first or second time this century I think. Which is crazy because qualifying for AFCON is usually a bare minimum for bigger countries in Africa like Ghana. To add to that, their group should have been easy on paper, yet they’re currently bottom of it and out already with one game left.
Aint there only been four afcon tourneys?? So saying its the first time theyve failed to qualify this centuary sounds far worse than theyve failed once out of four or five times they have!!haha
He might do a part 2 for Lyon.
What’s going on at Montpellier too, from Ligue 1 champions to possible relegation
The Henry clip ☠️💀
Think the Irish boycotted it after the Thierry Henry handball...
The possibility of implicit bias is hardly a controversial suggestion given Cootes ongoing distain for Klopp. Given the poor performance in Coote other games then it is likely to have an impact. Given that trust in officials is an issue.
Add to that the attitude of the people he surrounds himself, it increases the likelihood of implicit bias.
Personally, I disagree with your take at around 27:20 , in a world with VAR, you can definitely still get away with giving more 50/50's to one team over another, as long as you don't do anything stupid or obvious, you can definitely get away with it.
we see it every week,just slow down a tackle replay from an angle that suits a red card..or simply look at a shirt pull during a corner for a cheap penalty...the game is very open for manipulation even more so than before VAR.VAR is a betting syndicates wet dream
Sure you can, but you then get a low mark and if you do that consistently, you will be demoted.
Can see on whoscored the tackle/fouls given for and against team by the referee.
Guess which team got the least amount of fouls per tackle by Coote?
sure, I agree. But it has to be 50/50s and not blatantly obvious errors which in a pre-VAR world you'd get away with. That's why cheating is more difficult. It's never impossible, but it used to be much easier
@@user-tg6vq1kn6v Liverpool generally are allowed more fouls per yellow card than anyone else.
Also, this is a job where like it or not, perception matters. A ref is essentially a judge on the field, and if their impartiality can be reasonably questioned, the whole edifice starts to break down. I'm not surprised at the reactions to this, and the league chooses to ignore it at their own continuing peril.
But what do I know? Maybe they sweep this under the rug and no one cares. It's just hard to blame people for this gradually escalating feeling that something isn't right - where there's smoke...
That’s my take too. I don’t care he had those views or does coke. It’s the fact it was videoed and released that’s the nail in the coffin.
alfie, here's the issue with your entire premise. you say that refs can separate the manager they have beef with from their decisions, but every psychological study on the subject has shown that when you have an issue with someone it will lead to implicit bias. do i think coote directly and knowingly made calls against liverpool? no. do i think his issues with klopp subconsciously had him either make calls or no calls against liverpool? yes. i also think both of these incidents plus the island party with the girls incident shows just how much of an old boys club the pgmol is and how little oversight and accountability they have. there needs to be a change and a deep reflection of pgmol.
no referee can possibly be unbiased, especially when managers scream in their face and accuse them of being liars live on television.
Subconscious bias undoubtedly exists, but that is the case with all referees (and all human beings), so it's not unique to Coote, unless we think he's the only referee who hasn't got on with a manager. In terms of oversight and accountability, the best referees in England referee in the Premier League. If we want better referees, we need more refs and more competition. Right now, people don't want to become referees, so there is a shortage (as I covered in a previous video), and in all honesty, who can blame them?
Maybe this is an education for managers; if you're kind to referees and don't often shout in their faces, they won't think you're a c**t. This may lead to them liking you more and being subconsciously biased towards you.
Yeah but you can make that argument about every referee. Every referee will have opinions on managers, so they'll all suffer from the same unconscious bias towards managers and teams. The only difference here is Coote has voiced his opinion on a manager.
I really don't understand how you can blame the PGMOL here. What do you expect them to do? Police their behaviour when they aren't working?
@@HITCSevens I don't know why when it comes to football every fan just turns stupid. Every bit of logical thinking and common sense leaves their head and they become these cult members or fangirls of a Kpop band.
Estupiñan would make a killer omelete
Tsimikas would make gyros instead
Luke Shaw would definitely slather his in ketchup
Luke shaw would tear his hamstring on the way to the kitchen
Why Estupiñan? Do you mean Pervis or Oscar? 😂
@@macmuggo5459if he’s talking left backs pervis obviously
And wouldn’t fucking want Cucurella's hair in my omelette either.
@@macmuggo5459 left back so Pervis
The problem with talking about David Coote is that we're playing into the "just one bad apple" narrative.
As Portuguese I can confidently say there is no rivalry between the Spanish and Portuguese people at any level. Specially in football.
I hope this referee and his family are okay and have understanding friends and family.
At Uni. I had someone pretend to be a ‘friend’ to see if they could get me onto highly addictive Class A substances.
By the end of the year it turned out they’d dealt drugs to most (mainly the academically brightest) in our faculty (sleeping with some). She was working for a dangerous villain, who in turn pressured her to get ‘dirt’ on those partaking while under the influence, so as to blackmail them afterwards. Offering to send the same to parents, the university or their new employers.
This smells a lot like that to me.
Very scary story
Yes @ and being from a rural family, it’s not a part of modern society I’d ever come into contact with before.
Luckily I had an upbringing that helped avoid such pitfalls but one of the other students ended up in a very bad way. He’d gone into finance straight after graduating and they still had their hooks in him. He ended up having a mental breakdown and gave everything he’d done for them to the Police. Poor lad- it nearly killed him.
He’s not got a career anymore and is rebuilding life away from anyone who knew him before.
As a Liverpool fan pre video Coote was notorious for being pretty bad when he refed our games. He was even mysteriously taken off Liverpool games in the past.
Oh so he made some bad calls against Liverpool? Demonstrate this isn't simply confirmation bias. How many bad calls did he make against everyone else? How many bad calls did everyone else make against Liverpool? How many bad calls did he make for Liverpool? You can't simply say oh look at this bad thing, he's clearly biased
@micayahritchie7158 When did I say he was clearly biased.
evidence of the last bit please
@@jekanyika I never accused you of saying that though. I'm saying I think your opinion here is confirmation bias. And then told you what make me believe it isn't.
Edit: to be clear, my last sentence isn't an accusation towards you, it's an impression of the logical extreme of the confirmation bias thing
Stop trying to be victims.
Belgium and Holland actually did have a referee exchange program some time ago. It didn't really make anything better or worse so it was quickly discarded.
I think you make a great point about stupidity. Everyone sees it as malice. He should be allowed to have his opinions the same way everyone does. bringing up his whole career really shows that coote should have been able to put his bias aside because he should care a lot about his career.
Are judges allowed to express their opinions about defendants, witnesses, lawyers in the way Coote did? He’s shown a huge lack of judgment and professionalism which are attributes the refs need in abundance. I really can’t see how he can carry on as a ref.
@@molybdomancer195 100% agree with you. I don't think he should be allowed to ref. But I do think the point that the ref's stupidity shouldn't be taken as a conspiracy.
They're in every club but I can already hear some annoying fans saying that they didn't win the title because of a conspiracy within the refs because of this whole situation
Saying there is no evidence of bias affecting games is not factually correct. There is plenty of evidence of bias from referees. We've seen refs admitting to this on camera.
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The more serious concern, in my opinion, is the creation and then leaking of the video potentially being part of a blackmail scheme. It's completely plausible in this situation and very concerning.
To lean into the conspiracy, its interesting that he wasn’t involved for any pool games for 3 years after the video was filmed ( which may mean the PGMOL knew about the video), plus he was involved in some big non decisions the past few seasons.
I think it had more to do with the Van Dijk controversy.
The fact those videos exist in the first place means his judgment is questionable, not really the sort of thing you want in a referee.
He’s a ref, not the prime minister.
@@mikemurphy8996 and?
@@mikemurphy8996 do you think refs don't need to have good judgement? lmaooo.
@@T.E.S.S.If a guy makes a mistake while he's drunk on a single occassion, I don't think that a reasonable person could argue this demonstrates he has poor judgement and thus shouldn't be trusted to referee again.
@@macmuggo5459 He wasn't "drunk", and there are multiple videos. Recording yourself snorting substances while on a work trip would be a sackable offence in most jobs. And having stuff like that out there leaves him open to blackmail.
I usually agree with you Alfie but i think you are very naive in thinking that bias doesn’t come into referees’ decision making, both conscious and unconscious bias, especially when with VAR we seem to be seeing more decisions than ever before that refs could realistically get away with giving either way. Just like us they probably have a team that they’d prefer to win. Sure we have no proof but you can never prove that, all we can do is weigh up the evidence and i’d say that right now personal bias plays a huge role in refereeing decisions in England. Employing non-English refs would at least eliminate some of this bias, and they wouldn’t form some mates’ alliance where they all set out to protect each other and are never held accountable
The best thing that could come from this is an FA clampdown on abuse towards referees, similar to that in rugby. Whether you think Coote ended up being biased against Liverpool or not, do you think he'd have had any ill will towards Klopp if Klopp wasn't constantly harassing, abusing and trying to intimidate referees? No, because he'd have no reason to because all of their exchanges would have been cordial. Therefore he'd have no conscious or unconscious bias to potentially act on in the first place.
Like Klopp was the only manager going at refs 😭😭 Alfie just listed multiple managers abusing and insulting them
@EMAH669 I never said he was the only manager, but we're talking about the Klopp-Coote situation. Whether it's Klopp or anyone else, the abuse of refs needs to stop. The country is already struggling for refs from grassroots up.
In NFL as part of a union dispute, the NFL dropped all the referees, and used a bunch of non-unionized refs to break the strike.
The standard of refereeing plummeted. Several High profile mistakes in every single match. I think the whole think lasted 3 weeks, before the NFL broke. Met the union's demands and begged the refs to return.
And as a result, nothing exceptional happens to them regardless of how bad they are. The union will hold that over the NFL's head for all eternity, as they should. The issue is that because of that incident, there is next to no accountability.
@nicholastricarico2957 sure, however the NFL probably shouldn't have let it get to a strike.
The NFL could have met the demands but attached them to accountability measures.
They're only in the position they're in now because they devalued and disrespected them. Tried to bypass them altogether and forced the referees to show them that they weren't fucking around
I'd like it if PGMOL had guts and just refused to officiate any matches of the teams whose managers or fans they deem to have 'crossed the line'. That's a long time coming.
Calling the Ødegaard hand ball alledged is wild, beleive the evidance of your own eyes. Even the PGMOL said he got it wrong.
Your example of managers having a go at referees is not wrong, but when they are getting basic decisions wrong, what do people expect. Its always "they are only human" when its the officials but the players and managers...... well!
The standars of the officials has been an issue for such a long time. I know some decisions are subjective but the amount of time they get the most basic stuff wrong the question of incompidentce or corruption will remain.
The amount of stories we have heard from players too - Ben Foster "assist for mike Dean" for example.
Jurgen Klopp's Liverpool win ratio dropped by 12% from 67% to 55% whenever David Coote was involved. As you say, it's a possibility not a probability but that drop off is far too much a coincidence to not be investigated.
Statistically tiny amount that you can’t attribute to anything really
@learntooilpaint he made a decision in a game between Everton v City not giving a clear and blatant handball against Rodri which had he given it, would have seen City drop 2 points leaving Liverpool Champions by 1 point but failed to do so. He also failed to send off Pickford for that horrendous tackle on VVD, denied Liverpool a perfectly onside winner in the same match, failed to give handball against Martin Odegaard who dragged the ball with his hand, failed to send off Doku and award Liverpool a penalty v City for high boot claiming they both come in high when only Doku does, and in his last game claimed no foul on Salah the last man dragging Salah down, not play advantage, no foul.
You say it doesn't attribute much, but it's cost Liverpool a league title in 21/22 and 4 points off the tally last season giving Arsenal and City both an additional 1. The table might remain the same sure, but it's still an injustice. Then factor in the Spurs game with Diaz goal etc it then puts Liverpool Arsenal and City all in around 90-91 points, we can't say for sure what would have happened in the run in then but we've been robbed of the chance to see a genuine 3 way title race.
Also that's a huge drop off in win percentage, I'm not saying it's purely 100% down to him but there's far too much in it not to be coincidental, any fanbase who would be in the same position would all say the same and I'd agree fully. I wouldn't want to win if it was unfair and I'd hate to lose to one or several injustices. Give me 2nd fairly over 1st dubiously anytime. The fact fans are so divided on this worries me for the sport, sportsmanship is dying more and more if its not already dead.
Did you even watch the video? Liverpools win percentage when Coote officiates is 66.7% that's 0.3% lower than klopps average
@@liamwood7432 no it's not. I don't go by just one video. I go by the opta stats and it's down to 55% from 67% wherever Coote has been involved either reffing or on VAR duties. Do some research.
A minimal sample size, and it is still not a very steep drop off. You are an Alex Jones level conspiracy theorist lmao
As a former Batam resident, namedropping the city where I grew up is unexpected.
Edit: I also want to add thaf Batam is indeed quite the place for night entertainment and golf especially if you're from Singapore and looking for cheaper alternative, compared to its norther neighbor Johor.
This vid is 30 minutes but it feels like you said nothing that couldnt have been said in 10 minutes
Someone doesn’t like Anthony Taylor in a gimp suit 😡
that's just every Alfie video, though. He likes long-winded talks. If you don't like it, probably not the channel for you
It's a video essay, not a news article. Not even an opinion column in a paper.
Welcome to every video he does. 60% of waffle
you're new around here aren't you
"This is not a defence of David Coote..."
Sure sounds like it when you make claims that there is 'no evidence' of his biases affecting his decisions, when that statement is spoken like fact, when it's actually your subjective opinion.
Evidence doesn't have to mean definitive proof.
I never expected Alfie to stoop to whataboutisms in a debate
He called the manager a c*nt four times but we’re not to imply bias against him and his team? He didn’t say that about any other manager or team.
Pointing out that officials get abuse is not equivalent - Jose Mourinho is not making decisions that affect that officials livelihood. Allowing yourself to be recorded saying that just shows how rampant the bias is. He should be sacked for the first video and there should be a full flung investigation into the PGMOL. Between their obvious biases and the refusal to enforce FFP the game is suffering on the field.
Cootes being part of the refereeing team that didn't give the most obvious handball(so obvious that the UEFA came out and apologised to the German FA) in recent history to Germany, while being on tape calling Klopp a German c+nt, is nothing to be worried about folks. Everything is fine, nothing to see here, just pass along.
Seriously, 2 + 2 = potato makes more sense.
Not necessarily. I seriously doubt Coote has a vendetta against the entire country of Germany because he called Klopp a "German cunt". If youve ever flippantly called someone names before youll pick anything to add on. Examples: Spanish cunt, short cunt, fat cunt, one-legged cunt. Doesnt mean you hate everyone with a specific characteristic.
But yes, that handball decision was atrocious
Haven't seen the second video but I swear he only calls him a c**t and doesn't mention his nationality.
Have I got that one wrong?
David Coote didn’t referee that game, he was at the France vs Portugal match which happened the same day. Such information has been public on UEFA’s sites weeks before the controversy.
You’re feeding into the exact behavior criticized in the video, conjuring up conspiracies based on hearsay that is in fact incorrect.
you should see the handball he didn't give to portsmouth
We only knew about David Coote like a week ago but still got a 30 minute vid out of it..gotta love Alfie
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 698)
Alternativly you could do "Best German players who played outside the Bundesliga" or something like that if you prefer.
I will not give up until the video is made or Alfie himself tells me to stop. Everyone else telling me that will be ignored.
If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
If you have asked him for 698 days mate its clear he has no interest in it. Maybe do it yourself.
It's really shocking how underrated German players are outside of Germany.
Neymar is a superstar and Thomas Müller isn't even though only one was really successful.
@cyan_oxy6734 Muller isn't as fun to watch and hasn't got the flair nor skill that Neymar has. Plus the Bundesliga isn't competive so nobody outside Germany watches
@@StephenC-d2m what a bunch of irritating nonsense all condensed in a single youtube comment
@@fabioorlando8787 Nobody except Germans and Bayern will remember Muller. He played in a boring league, with a boring team, in a boring country, playing boring football. He's a great player, but we're not going to remember him here in England. I don't care it's just a fact.
“Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity”
Fair. However, the brazen stupidity you cushion on is basically what corruption is. Doing the wrong thing so brazenly because (you believe) you’ll likely not get caught. And corruption has malicious consequences. You pointed to instances of questionable behaviour that included other referees. And many more could possibly be mentioned. This adds weight to the other perspective as well: there’s more to this than meets the eye (or nose).
To cushion on “brazen stupidity” is to insult the intelligence of (and likely exonerate) those involved. This is about more than Coote. Considering how many referees have displayed “brazen stupidity” in their private times on some level, which is more likely: the PGMOL as a collective is stupid, or there’s massive amounts of corruption there?
And if anyone asks for examples of other referees being “brazenly stupid”, a quick one is Michael Oliver, Daniel Cook, and Darren England reffing a game in Dubai at the invitation of the Man City ownership prior to the Luis Diaz gaffe last year. Must be a collective stupidity.
Another example of "brazen stupidity" is a bunch of referees going to Thailand a few years ago and being photographed with questionable ladies draped over them!! Far East betting syndicates? Coote and Friend were two of the referees, but I can't recall the others. A search of the internet should turn up the picture or at least articles about the picture!
The difference between stupidity and corruption is the intent.
@@edwardpalmer6409 I get this and I’m inclined to agree. I don’t think it works for every situation, though. In other instances, it is the abuse of power. For example, when Boris Johnson hosted a party that flouted Covid rules, there really wasn’t malicious intent in as much as there was brazen stupidity. That is, he very likely felt he wouldn’t get caught (or punished) for abusing his power. But we can all agree it was corrupt. The referee issue could be one of those. The brazenness is the point.
All of this is also to say that we shouldn’t dismiss the possibility JUST because there isn’t (yet) any proof of corruption. It’d be prudent to assess and rule out the possibility definitively instead of accepting that all the questionable behaviour is merely stupidity.
It's only a referee doing coke, it's not anywhere near as serious as a government cover up of facts surrounding a child killer.
You don't have to apologise mate, we love these 'sorry' videos.
He has to apologize just to keep the "sorry, we need to talk about…" type of videos alive though
Alfie how do you get 20-30+ minutes out of things like this? We've all already heard about it and there just isn't 31 minutes worth of things to talk about that we don't know about
He made more context of the situation and came up with logical reasoning and points ,LIQ behavior bro
I do like Alfie's videos generally, but he never uses 1 word if he can squeeze 3 words in instead
I like long form content, but this vid especially could have been a 15 mins rather than 32 minutes.
I'm pretty certain that referees are supposed to be unbiased. So if you have personal feelings about any manager or are rating how a team plays then you really shouldn't be a referee. Because you're biased. Obviously it takes a certain type of character to want to be a referee (or policeman) (and you can say and think whatever you will about that type of person and you'd probably be right) but they're still expected to be professional. That they are human is a bare fact, but nonetheless their entire job is predicated on them being professional.
"Don't have opinions" is an impossible task.
"Have your opinions and be professional" is exactly what you do when your livelihood depends on it. And as the video explains, that's exactly what's supposed to happen.
I know that at league level, and possibly lower down, refs are asked to declare any teams they support or have connections with. They then won't be given games featuring those teams. This may be extended to rival teams e.g. you wouldn't want a lifelong gooner refereeing Spurs.
Whether they are asked about teams they specifically don't like, I don't know.
I do remember that when match information used to show where the ref was from ref, they often tended to be from small towns without League clubs like Sudbury or Yate.
@@nickvickers3486 If you want to be a referee in football then it's guaranteed that you like football and thus either supported a local club or a bigger club. I did also read ages ago that they have to declare any affiliation or teams that they support so, as you say, you won't end up with a tottenham supporter refereeing a north london derby, for example. It shouldn't really matter as referees are supposed to be professional and whether they like or dislike a player or club shouldn't be relevant.. They're supposed to be like legal judges and take themself off the case/game if they feel like they can't judge/referee it without prejudice.
I like the part where he says VAR will take care of any obvious mistakes.....
Lemme say it again, the best part of this video is where he says VAR will take care of any obvious mistakes
(Tottenham Vs Liverpool, 23/24) 🤣
Another example of someone speaking about this event and waving away the xenophobia from Coote. As well as the AT BEST incompetence of several very very poorly officiated games as a ref and VAR assistant that prompted initial skeptical analysis of Coote even prior to this video being released. The video leak was confirmation of a suspicion that already existed around his bias/incompetence, Liverpool fans didn't see it and work backwards
what do you mean? He literally said that Coote's career is most likely finished and that the xenophobic comment (which he said constitutes racial discrimination by English FA rules) was part of it
@maciejbala477 And spent 90% of the video making him out to be the wronged party? A hard done by bigot, cry me a river.
Lyon should really deserve this video.
In the past, they are used to be Ligue 1 powerhouse with 7 consecutive league titles, but now, the club were struggling to return back their success (they were in last place for the first few games the last season), and now even found themselves in a difficult situation with possible relegation to Ligue 2 as a result of financial difficulties.
Alfie plzz make a video about fergie time and how true or false was it?
Alfie, stop with these titles. You're absolutely not sorry.
The problem is simple. Untouchable individuals in an untouchable organization.
Even if he is guilty of gross stupidity rather than any malice, and he has never deliberately "made a mistake," rather than a genuine one with good faith, when officiating Liverpool matches, he still has to go. He has no credibility left, and everything he does would be questioned from now on. He has bought the game into (even more) disrepute and his position is untenable. Of course many refs have thought and said worse, but not on camera, meaning Coote has no way back now.
"Alleged" Odegaard handball? Mate, you can just look it up.
“You’d need all the other officials to be aligned on your corruption”
Well that’s a good thing that the officials are organised through an official public body and not a private company where they’re completely unaccountable then isn’t it?
Corruption due to stupidity is still corruption, just look at the audio from the infamous Chelsea-Spurs game or the officiating in the Spurs-Brighton game from the same season where they handed spurs the win by ignoring two blatant fouls that would have led to penalties and chalking off a Brighton goal for had absolutely nothing wrong with it. And let’s not forget the period of two or three weeks when VAR couldn’t even draw the lines right.
Coot clearly robbed liverpool of vital wins, and hence forth a couple of titles! 🤔🧐😡
I see the tradition of LFC fans venting their conspiracies without even attempting to engage with the substance of the content is going strong. I'm wondering how many hundreds of years back it goes...
Since Hillsborough. Rammed that down everyone’s throats for decades
@@fedfed6485 I was referring to vital games in the 20/21 season such as the Merseyside Derby when ludicrous decisions clearly robbed Liverpool of the victory. ie there was 3 of them in the Derby match alone. 🤔🧐
@@paulmcallister8948 I've seen the Mane offside pic again the last few days, and I'm not sure it proves anything. The angle creates an optical illusion. Since we can't have a camera looking at 90 degree angle everywhere on the pitch, we draw the lines. The lines were drawn and I didn't see anything improper there.
I'd much rather discuss the video than lines drawn 3.5 years ago ;)
Anyway, "all the calls go against us" is something every single team says, as mentioned in the video. My subjective view is that non-top-6 team have it much tougher. But I have no hard evidence.
30 minute video where nothing is said.
About your point on referees taking PEDs, a universally known but often forgotten side effect of PEDs such as anabolic agents, the ones that increase muscle mass and strength, is the increased aggression and hyper-masculine behaviours shown because of the heightened testosterone. I don't know whether this would make referees more or less likely to give away cards and fouls but it would definitely affect their reasoning and decision making.
So, for me, it would be an absolutely horrible choice to give rest anabolic agents. If its PEDs in general, then they probably already take them, most coffee and all painkillers counts PEDs, but they aren't the kind you were referring to.n
That would defo make it more fun to watch though ;)
I'm a Liverpool fan and I broadly don't see much wrong with what Coote said. Klopp was often a cunt to referees. As you point out, the use of the phrase 'German cunt' clearly is unacceptable, however, but the broader focus in public discourse on basically everything else is frustrating
Alfie is low key funny as fuck
He is, though he pro Palestine views are ridiculous and uneducated. Stick to football
@@AzuraeLyonheart oh no, youtuber can't have a different opinion from me! Bet you'd not be telling him to "stick to football" if he agreed with your views.
That section of the video between 3:32 and 4:09 is perhaps the greatest part of any video in HITC Sevens history. My ribs hurt 😂😂
Any time someone unironically says the refs have an agenda against their club, I automatically start assuming they actually know nothing about football
Anytime someone starts automatically assuming anything at all, I automatically right off that person's opinion as invalid due to low IQ.
So - and I’m only trying to understand you better - are you saying this in spite of the Coote revelations? Or was this your position before?
its ok to call someone by colour or nation unless its not a known majority white nation
Except there’s proven examples of referees taking bribes, it’s hardly outrageous to assume it would happen again
Then, with all due respect, your being rather disrespectful to said people
Some very obvious questions not asked in this here veedeeo:
-Is it a coincidence that Coote didnt referee Liverpool for FOUR years after Pickford did VvD and around the same time the German Coont video was made? And in the very next game, there were obvious questions asked about the Bailey/Salah incident.
-Similarities to Calciopoli not mentioned - no referees were paid, but referees with favourable statistics were given certain games (and not).
-There are statistical material that very much suggests certain trends amongst the refs, especially regarding free kicks and penalties given to foreign vs domestic players. See the works of Paul Tomkins for the last few years. And yes, there are trends for and against various clubs and managers as well (and also for managers, there seems to be a foreign vs domestic thing as well).
I'd like to read about these trends if you can link anything
@jamesduffy7549 tried linking, but apparently RUclips doesnt like that. Google Paul Tomkins + Mo Salah and go from there
Every attempt I have made to respond to this disappears for some reason...... Just google it, I have stated above what to search for.
Google Tomkins
I think the current heat that premier league referees are taking is down to three reasons;
1) VAR creates as many problems as it solves. It means that officials are officiating to the rulebook even more than ever, and have to apply some rules that many of us don't fully know about. And when they make mistakes, it makes them look worse, because they made the mistake despite having VAR.
2) refereeing standards are actually worse than they've ever been before.
3) and the biggest current reason; There are some murky and unanswered questions concerning PL officials at the moment. Jurgen Klopp often moaned at them, because Liverpool have always received more bad decisions from officials than other big teams have.
Arsenal have also historically received a lot of bad decisions.
Meanwhile, Man Utd always did well from the officials, and now there have to be massive questions over whether some referees and officials are biased or have even been corrupted by Manchester City. Why did Anthony Taylor and another referee go to dubai to referee a friendly tournament (run by the Man City owners) and allegedly got paid by them for doing so?
So David Coote's remarks come as no surprise to me. Although I think he deserves to lose his job, we should go easy on him though. He seems like a troubled man.
But it can't hide the fact that we PGMOL do need to be investigated to make sure it's as impartial as it can be and free of corruption. I get the feeling that although managers won't admit to this, some of them are probably frustrated with officials, because they secretly question how impartial they are.
The censorship part was genius... love the content as always
A manager's opinion cannot change a game, no matter what he says about the ref. A player's opinion cannot change the game, no matter what he says about an official. Every official's opinion changes every game. The media and content creators standing up for Coote seem to skip over fact that he has put the league in a very bad light and there must be something in his contract about that. He was lining up hookers and blow during half-time at the Euros, ffs. PGMOL knew about the video and took Coote off Liverpool games for years. I don't care about the individual calls on the field, I care about not being able to trust a process due zero consistency, inexplicable contradictions and no transparency whatsoever.
whenever theres a scandal it always happens during a international break usually from other sports like cricket or boxing this one is similar but just without the footage having a sun logo across the video
Thank you so much for highlighting this when the media wont dare to touch it. You're a legend.
I just want an investigation on Anthony Taylor because no way does he not have an agenda against Chelsea
1. Being impartial isn’t part of a manager’s job. So him being recorded slagging off a ref is potentially unpleasant, but not necessarily worse than that. A ref being recorded slagging off a manager is not the same. You can never be certain the ref isn’t going to be unbiased
2. I think you have to live in cloud cuckoo land to watch the video, hear how he talks about Liverpool and Klopp, but not think he presumably agrees with the guy saying “we hate scousers”. I think it is a very very safe assumption that Coote is with him on that one. He shouldn’t ever ref a Liverpool game again
3. Coote is xenophobic. I don’t care if his career gets ruined. I don’t have sympathy for people like that
4. I don’t necessarily think there is a grand referee conspiracy to favour a certain team and screw over a different one. What I absolutely think is true is that there is an agenda in the media and PGMOL to defend refs for absolutely everything possible. There is no reason whatsoever, for example, for refs to not be required to give interviews explaining their bad decisions, when managers and players have to do interviews after games. Get rid of Mike Dean and Dermot Gallagher too unless they decide to stop being ridiculously biased in saying the refs are always right.
No we need to talk about chris kavanagh and his obvious bias in favour of man city
This channel is great 💯 ty for your uploads OP
*HITC Sevens voice in 5 months time*
"Guys.... I was wrong"
You're giving too much respect to refs here. If a Manager comes out and talks about a referee being poor, he gets fined. Everything for a ref is handled "internally".
Sounds like you just don’t like refs.
fancy that, an Englishman accepting that Europe includes the isles.
🏴please make a video exploring the effect that Welsh football has on the Welsh independence movement and Welsh nationalism. the national team's success in recent years has helped dispell the age old myths Wales can't succeed on our own because we're "too small" "too poor" "too stupid". unfortunately though, these myths and an inferiority complex are still prevalent in Welsh football and Welsh society as a whole. take merthyr town fc as an example, they play in the 3rd tier of English non league, but refuse to join the Welsh leagues because they think playing in the English league makes them more important and more respected. it would be great if you did this video
Genuinely heartwarming to watch the downfall of Coote's career first hand 😊
I really want someone to put on ‘The Drugs Olympics’. Where all competitors are allowed to take whatever combination of whatever they think can make them do their sport best.
We really need a video on what's happened to Ghana you'd think a country as good as them would be a top powerhouse in African football but they just failed to qualify for even afcon and judging by recent past results in afcon 21 and this past afcon it's been a long time coming what happened to them after 2010
Sorry Alfie, need to watch this video again, can’t get Anthony Taylor out my head
Im racist blind and deaf, so thats why im an english ref.
Probably right about first 3
Alfie, I've been watching your videos for a long time, and whilst I've always appreciated your humour, I have to tell you that it's genuinely a pleasure to see how that element is growing in your videos. Your delivery is getting better every time, your writing is as superb as ever, and I hope it continues long into the future.
I mean he not lying about Klopp, any manager can say what they want about a ref and no one blinks an eye. Double standards at its finest
Yeah. And they do it like a kid. Super passive aggressive.
Its not like they get fined and punished immediately after criticizing a ref on his shit performance right?
I love the evaluative nature of your videos. Its refreshing to see different perspectives on footballing incidents; not just the emotionally charged ones.
I’m a bit surprised by Alfie’s defense of this tbh. He is usually quick to point out corruption, both in football and outside of it, but seemingly turns a blind eye when it comes to this issue, because it’s getting some admittedly wild suggestions from fans of Liverpool. He needs to take the emotion out of it and focus on the facts.
What Coote has done is like a regulator publicly calling the CEO of one of the major companies that they are supposed to be regulating a cvnt. It implies that the regulator could (emphasis on could) use his views on the CEO as a factor when applying judgements on the company, which makes a mockery of the impartiality of the regulator. If this happened in any other regulated profession jobs would be lost at minimum, and likely the person would be barred from that position in the future. Refs have to be seen as impartial, otherwise the rules cannot be enforced properly.
Absolutely loving that you showed a pic of Cameron and mophead when talking about the word starting with c and ending with unt.
Just to clarify but isn’t calling Jurgen Klopp the German C-word actually xenophobia and not racism?
It's just name calling ffs grow up, you any idea how many times i call someone a cunt everyday? LOTS! Especially when one is being a cunt
I do really appreciate you mentioning that we shouldn't remember Anthony Taylor in a GIMP suit. The entire video that was all in my head but when you reminded us to not remember it 20 minutes or so after first bringing it up, I finally realized my mistake and got it out of my head. So yeah, Appreciate it Alfie.
Some funny lines here
16:52 în Romania, for a pretty long time, we used to have foreign referees for "high profile" games because of all the suspicions around refereeing (there was actually quite a lot of match-"micromanaging" being done at the time)
17:30 Sorry Alfie, I doubt anyone believes foreign referees would favor clubs just because they share a nationality with certain players or managers. After all, English referees already officiate games where they may come from the same towns or regions as some English players on the field.
Mate, people on twitter will find any tenuous reason to bleat about why their club is being disadvataged by a referee. Forest's complaint that "the VAR is a Luton fan" is one laughable example of that
@macmuggo5459 Twitter isn't real life mate.
I think Alfie may have had more fun making this video, particularly the early part, than any other video in recent memory. And I, in turn, enjoyed watching it very much. You're in rare form, Alfie!
bet he’s a class night out
If that's the company you like to keep.
Class A
@ just heard he was accused of being a nonce, i would like to retract my prior statement
Frankly the last video is just "referee has a private life" the first one is the complete career killer
Nope. Professional level people have to behave professionally at all times. Coote if he were taking illegal drugs could be blackmailed.
@@molybdomancer195 Nothing you do outside of your work is unprofessional
Disappointing video from HTC, pretty poor perspective
Man dislikes another man and calls him a cxnt and now it’s a conspiracy against Liverpool
Hahah had an aussie camp counselor growing up, and I said the word c*** in front of my mom and she literally slammed on the brakes and pulled over to the side of the road and scolded me. Your summary of the word is spot on 😆😆
The non sending-off or even booking of Jordan Pickford for GBH on VVD was complete bias. Badly damaged Liverpool's season and it was obvious at full speed. Pickford went for Virgil, not the ball.
Shall we talk about Mark Clattenberg?
Supposedly because he was offside Pickford could not be booked. Like to see Konate just smash DCL in the Derby game first time he is offside. Just run at him full pelt and kick his standing leg. Yeah right. Instant red card. But Coote did not have the ref go look at the challenge again.
@@Dooguk yeah, he is shite too.
@@albertbrammer9263 No. the story goes that Coote "forgot" that the offside wiping out a penalty didn't actually excuse the red card violation and so neglected to mention it to Oliver. A professional referee conveniently forgetting the laws of the game and we're supposed to believe that? I'm all for innocent until proven guilty but at some point the series of ridiculous rulings a referee makes against the same club moves from "mistakes and incompetence" to obvious bias and Coote vs Liverpool was well past that point before Saturday's "nothing to see here" wave-off of an obvious DOGSO foul on Salah where he was only saved from ridicule by Nunez scoring.