Easy and Quick Geo Thermal Cooling Setup for Indian Homes | Lumencity
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Geothermal Cooling and heating systems are available in the market from a long time but their Installation, and size of operations and complete cost of Installation is so huge that it stays out of the reach for small home owners but what if there is a way in which we could self install a geothermal cooling and heating system for our home on small scale, In this Video we would understand the working principle behind the geothermal cooling and heating system and understand how we could make a mini model which we would install in our homes and there is a major benefit in installing these system which is we can save 50% on our electricity cost than an traditional air conditioner.
So how can we install these systems in our homes easily and quickly with items which are easily available on a local hardware store.
How Geothermal Heating and Cooling Works?
Geo thermal uses the fixed temperatures inside the earth crust which remain constant, and does not effect much by the atmosphere temperature, so in extreme summer Just few foot below the surface we could get much colder temperatures and in winters that same temperature feels warmer so if we could harness that constant temperature and use that to cool or heat our house we could save a lot on our electricity consumption as most of the electricity in a regular home goes into the heating and cooling needs.
How To Setup your own Geothermal cooling and heating system?
We have given various details in the Video but just for reference you would need the following things to get started
1) GI (Galvanized Iron) Pipes
2) Small Water Pump
3) Radiator
4) Coolant Liquid
5) Fan Unit to go behind Radiator
Once you have all the things you can just watch the Video and start Building your own Geo thermal System for your Home or office
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I was thinking on this idea 15 years ago and finally installed one at my 22 marla home in islamabad 2 years ago.but ist not that much easy what you explained rather its a measures of complex measurement with high accuracy.After many failed attempts finally i made it perfect and now its working perfectly and i do not needs to on my AC durning the summers.i used copper pipe instead of galvanised iron and its just super.now im enjoying 25 degree Celsius inside my home during the summer with just a 12 volt battery power.
Could u please share details, how actually u have done it finally
Wonder ful I also thought of cooper insded galvanised .would u please share ur project made at ur home
Hi, Could you please share your Whatsapp number or Email address?
I was really thing of installing this system myself.
I am also from Pakistan aswell.
Slm. Plz tell me what is the total length of the pipe you used in the system and how much water it carries.
Hi, Could you share your whatsapp number?
I am also from pakistan
वेरी नाइस वीडियो भाई जी मैं भी इस सिस्टम को लगाना चाहता था परंतु घर बनाते समय लग नहीं पाया विदेश में भी लोग यह सिस्टम उपयोग करते हैं और इसमें बीच में एनर्जी रिकवरी सिस्टम लगाया जाता है मुझे भी लगता है कि यह एनर्जी बढ़ाने के लिए एक बहुत अच्छा सॉल्यूशन है
It's very good that you have thought of geothermal energy for medium and small scale. I will like to add that using G.I pipe will is not a fesible idea as it will increase the cost to a large scale. Also to bend those pipes will creat the problem of cracks in the bend. There will be lots of issues in the begining but can be solved. you can use alluminum pipes which are more flexible and rust free also.
Great advice 🫡 Thank You
GI coated w/zinc provides increased resistance but is not going to be corrosion proof over a considerable period of time.
The way our properties are structured, majority of installation will have something on the ground level (above the pipes - mostly landscaped gardens etc.
Ppl will be vary of investing or become party to such a venture if there is even an iota of a chance that the GI structure may fail and that the whole thing may have to be uprooted. This may lead to a lot of destruction of say landscaped gardens etc.
Chance of coolant leaking into the ground may just put off many normal right minded people.
GI systems (especially joints) are not a particularly attractive option when it comes to their pressure handling capabilities.
At some level a no leak guarantee will not be a landmine that can be sidestepped. This is where a PEX installation will prove invaluable. 0 leaks underground can be guaranteed if the the installer is even moderately trained.
GI will require above par (=₹₹₹) installers.
I can understand the bit about reduced load transfer capability of PEX but that has to be properly quantified and then compared to the challenges that a GI system will pose.
Simple tarika , zameen main bore Karo niche se pipe se motor pani legi , vahi motor Truck ya bus ke Radiator main pani circle karegi , fan se Radiator ke beech se Air Pass hogi , Air cool ho jayegi, Duct pipe se room cool karo
Outlet paani ka kyaa hogaa??
Har room me coolent vala Pani pressure se pahuchana hoga .
Or room me DX units lagana hoga
Humdidity bhi calculte karni hogi .
Costing bhaut ho jaygi or accuracy nahi milegi .
Light ka bill 😂 to aye ga
जब आप उसको ट्राई करो तो उसमें यह चीज ध्यान रखना कि आप l 1.5 टन एसी की कॉलिंग के बराबर एक्सपेरिमेंट करना उसके लिए पता चल जाएगा तो 1.5 टन एक को चलाने में कितना खर्चा आता है महीने का यह सालाना और इसे लगाने से हमें क्या बेनिफिट होगा जो आप एक्सपेरिमेंट करोगे और उसकी कास्ट भी बताना
आपकी सोच और प्रयास सफल होने के बाद आम जनता जो आज ए को जरूरत के साथ साथ status symbol मान रही है, यदि उपयोग करने लगे तो ग्लोबल वार्मिंग कम करने मे सफलता मिलेगी।
All the best for the prototype looking forward to see it working soon
Mere khyal se isme compressure use nahi hoga isliye power consumption bahut kam ho jayega, lekin aapko ise green banane ke liye solar power ka bhi option rakhna chahiye. Baki apki soch kabile taarif hai.
Really liked the video, these sustainable things should be brought to mainstream......a must like to video instantly.
Instead of using 90° bands. Try using banded pipes for batter flow if it is possible.
Copy from us developer 😂😂😂
Khud k kuch nhi india ka
For your information this technique is 4000 years old backed to Persia
@@HimanshuSingh-yj2wh par tum to RUclips me copy paste maar kar note chhap rahe ho na..
@@pabloescobar-cj3mk porki not bark
Matt feral
I am not engineer but I heard about the cooling battery you guys can add as a hybrid system use solar panel to cool water in day and use in a night
It's good way of cooling/heating...
I have used.
If you have used it how does it perform in Humid Environment
Can it be accommodated in the excavation when making new construction
*You can also take some advice from Sonam Wangchuk .....As he recently gave his concern about sustainable development 😊*
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thank god that you are doing this in scenario of increasing cost of elect demand and global warming such sys should be subsidized in future by govt
Simply bolu to aap advance concept pr baat kr rhe h Jo hamari samjh se Bahar h jb tk koi isaka demo na ho aur hame ye pta na ho ki ye hamare liye profitable h ki nhi
Good luck bro looking forward to your 👍 from pak
Thanks 👍
Good work, earned a subscriber & viewer.🎉
I am Glad You liked our work
Commenting for better cooling input,
1. Fan direction as it is used as suction or pusher kind off
2. The coolant ratio as for premix
3. Necessity of coolant as for indian climate needs
4. Radiator type lowered fin downfall kind to be
5. Action in reverse to make modular system as for blower or heater
6. Placement and geographical assessment for system installation
You can take it as input or if require support let's connect
Idea 💡 to bahut MST lga rhe ho successful ho jayega to bahut bra badlaw laa dijiyega aaap
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जरा ध्यान से सोचें व बताएँ और जिस प्रकार, मनुष्य के जीवन यापन के लिए अति आवश्यक हैं, उसी प्रकार जीवन की गुणवत्ता बनाए रखने के लिए भी महत्त्वपूर्ण हैं। लेकिन तौपीय प्रदूषण जब कारखानों तथा तापघरों से गर्म जल को बिना ठंडा किए ही नदियों तथा तालाबों में छोड़ दिया जाता है, यह विधि में भारत की अपेक्षा अन्य देशों में ज्यादा प्रयोग होता ह लेकिन gi पाइप की जगह एल्यूमिनियम पाइप का प्रयोग किया जाए यद्यपि विकास का एक उज्जवल भविष्य है।
Sir it is a good concept,Saw this in some youtube video long ago,but this is going to create lot of maintenance issues depending on the coil material quality, installation process and manpower expertise. it is not as simple as "fit and forget" type. better is wind energy. but no Bharatiya entrepreneurs.
But for the first timers it would be useful!
Aapko coolant level check karne waala device bhi saath me install karna chahiye radiator to aur jab uski level kam ho jaaye uski refilling bhi ho sake
The cost of these huge length of underground GI pipes (which will eventually rust anyway and need replacing) makes this type of cooling impractical in India (this system more useful in colder country). Better in our climate to use simple cooling tower with water on the roof, it will be circulated to a normal aircon that has water cooled radiator! Or if you have nearby pond you can use its water instead. Small pump won't consume much power overall you would save power on AC
Long life pipe material is important
आपकी बात बिल्कुल सही है इसी तरह से ट्यूबवेल का पानी गर्मियों में 15 डिग्री आता है और सर्दियों में 25 डिग्री 🙏
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A 5 TR cooling tower will be far cheaper in India in both installation cost and operating cost, and will provide more cooling.
Wish you good luck
agar ye pipe boaring mai hi daal di jae to.. jis boaring se ham gaon mai pani nikalte hai.. esi mai do pipe in,out ka daal k bhi chal sakta hai.. paani se aur ziyada thandi hawa hogi..
aisa bhi system hota hai uss system ko open loop system bolte hai
Same Question hai,, boaring open loop me kitna success hai, 2nd water circulation se kitna bed effects pad sakta hai well ko. Continue kitna samay chal sakta hai, temperature rise hone se..¿…
Bad idea
@@lumencity mera matlab same Boaring se nhi tha jisse Pani ata hai..
Jis tarah se Apki video mai show hoa hai , JCB se ek Large area ko Dig kar fir usme Cable Dale..
Usse Better hai k.. Boaring kar k water level tak... Eska cost bhi bahut kam hota hai.. phir esmain Cable Dale to.. ? Deep to hoga hi,. Plus Water bhi hoga.. Double cooling,..
Mai abhi Bihar Mai hon.., Garmi mai Bhai sahab App Boaring k Pani se Naha k dekho,. Jab Pani body par padta hai to , bilkul ice ki tarah hota hai..
Cooling ka jawab nhi hoga.
itni depth se paani lene me jayada electricty consume hogi
जमीन में जो पाइप दबाया जा रहा है वह होरिजेंटल है क्या उसे वर्टिकल किया जा सकता है कम घर छोटे घर वालों के बहुत कम से कम जगह होता है इसे 50 100 फीट नीचे बड़ा कुआं की तरह गड्डा करके और उसमें पाइप को लपेटकर सिलेंडर के फॉर्म में ऊपर लाया जा सकता है?
yes vertically bhi pipe install kiya jaa sakta hai
Very good idea
I think ground water system is more efficient need two bore one for incomming and second for outgoing ground system work only for few hours after that soil will heat and efficiency go down
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Use copper tube for underground line with one small steel water tank, both are should be fixed underground. Standby water pump shall be run on required comfortable air.
Copper Pipe = Expensive
Very exited about this. I'm planning to build my home next month. I wish I could get this. I will have 100 sq ft built up area. Could potentially lay the pipes under pathway or even the front garden.
How much would this cost? Approximately?
Instead of underground earth, I think under ground water tank can also solve the same purpose.
Many of us already build an house and no extra land available to dig down these pipe.
May be it's not efficient as Earth and something is better than nothing.
Yes Its a Great Idea 💡
How do we calculate this cooling system as in ton/hp as we generally buy ac from the market…
And what is the price and electricity difference between this and a split ac..??
The Traditional 1Ton ac has a capacity of 18000 BTU but when it geothermal the capacity would depend upon various variables like underground pipe length + Radiator Size etc, but we would try and simplify the calculation based on amount of coolant which would be used in the system for which we actually need to built the system
Yes it works, I have tried in the bore well pipe. I inserted the GI pipe in bore well passed the radiator cooling for heat transfer media,but problem comes immediately as the minerals get solidify at outer surface of GI pipe and becomes useless,or take out the pipe and clean and then insert in the bore well.Results were not encouraging.
Simply burying the pipes in soil will cause ground water contamination with heavy metals, you should incorporate a mechanism of water percolation ( specifically rain water), in soil bypassing these pipes
cool🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Sir, this is the ocean tech.
Can this be installed with the base of the house while building as will be best utilisation of space
This solution is more expensive than using small Water based house-hold coolers.
Excited to see output
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Sir major city's mein aaj kal basement har koi banata hai construction kai time aur uski depth Approx 10 sai 15 ft tak hoti he hai toh Waha hum is system ko install kr sakte hai
Yes but there are various pipelines running underground in cities But it could be an option
Gi pipe is expensive can we use other pipes?
Aluminum beer can also be used
Use aluminium pipe
जी आई पाईप में रस्ट लग ही जाता है लॉन्ग टर्म के लिए कॉपर पाईप ही बेस्ट ऑप्शन है
Panjab mai ek kisan ne bnaya h ye new kothi bnayi h uske back pe 50feet niche tak lift size gadda bnaya h or purre ghar mai ac k vent de k niche se air ko ghar mai flow karta h
can that system be run with solar power and if yes how much power Inverter will be required? also how much cooling can be achieved. i need that info for a school project with 7000 sqr ft covered area.
Humidity mein yeh kaisa perform karega yeh bataye
Earth ka temp. 15 digri rahta. Accha plan hai yaar.
Thank you
Can the coolant be placed vertically
Make pipeline under the garden area
I think we should use aluminium pipe and aluminium heatsink ( as we get in electronic dive) for faster and efficient exchange of heat.
Cost ka masla hoga na bhai.
क्या आप जानते हैं कि भारत के आधे से अधिक प्राकृतिक वन लगभग खत्म हो चुके हैं? एक-तिहाई जलमग्न भूमि (wetland) सूख चुकी है. 70 प्रतिशत धरातलीय जल क्षेत्र (water bodies) प्रदूषित हैं, 40 प्रतिशत मैंग्रोव क्षेत्र लुप्त हो चुका है और जंगली जानवरों के शिकार और व्यापार तथा वाणिज्य की दृष्टि से कीमती पेड़-पौधों की कटाई के कारण हजारों वनस्पति और वन्य जीव जातियाँ लुप्त होने के कगार पर पहुँच गई हैं।
Prithvi par 5 baar se upar Maha sarvanash ho chukaa hai aur fir se puri prithvi par 5 baar jeevan puraa fail chuka hai.
To ye part of process hai . Manav ka bhi anta hogaa gar manav prithivi chodkar baaki graho par naa basaa toi
पहले मे भी यही सोचता था भाई, सोच सोच के दिमाग खराब हो गया,, फ़िर मैने भी ac lagwa लिया ओर मे भी global warming का हिस्सा बन गया 😑😶
जो आया है वो जायेगा तो जरुर, कोई समय से पहले कोई समय आने पर
AC type cooling ke liye 0 degree water zaroori he jo zameen se nahi milega..
Mitti nikalne ke bad usake upper water harvesting system ka bhi upyog kiya jay to kaisa rahega.
When will the prototype video will come?
Please make the system fully with every component when if the system is a small one
Try to deploy machine learning algorithms in the software of this proposed prototype so that efficiency of the overall system could be increased and cost issue will be resolved as well
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Can we just use it as a heat exchanger for the already set vrv units or heat pumps
Much easy to use and provide additional cop number
yes you can. use tube in tube condensore to flow coolant in this tube in tube coil.
Sar ji ice battery wala system bhi to banaa sakte hain power efficient bhaiya ser vo
Zameen k andar jo pipe hongey kia wo chotey janwar damage nhi katengey? Jesey choha nevla.
1/2 इंच एल्यूमीनियम पाइप जो pvc coated है 500 मीटर लंबा है मेरे पास क्या इसे उपयोग कर सकता हूं
Its ancient technology
Sab tarah ke chutiyape kar lege lekin ghar par ek pedh nahi lagega jiski chhaya me pura ghar aagan thanda rahe.😊
What about humidity? Or do we need to keep it as cross ventilation.
this system will not affect the ambient humidity level.
Can copper pipes be used instead of GI as the heat exchange would be better than GI. I am planning as well to setup a small prototype and hence request your response on this.
Copper is expensive plus would be less durable than GI
Sir, Mera cold store ka kaam h jha muje 14-15 degree Celsius temperature chahiye hota h, kya hum is system ko hybrid way me bna skte h ? Jisme normal ac plus iss system ko add kr diya jaaye
Yes it is technically possible and very useful and cost effective.
Sir pipe cold ko carry nahi karta. Sirf heat carry hoti hai. Cold is absence of heat. It is not a physical entity.
True
Dhari ka andrr temperature garmi mey kitna hota hai
Saal bhar apko constant temperature milega 4 meter gahrai me 24 degree approx
I will explain it in simple manner
To achieve 10 Ton of cooling capacity which is more than enough for a 200sq yard house you have to
Use a 6x10 ft hole with a depth of 15 ft [Better if it's below the water tank], Use copper pipes but GI pipes can also be used
You will have to use multiple radiators as a single large fan and radiator will look bad and also the noise will be super high for a home
There are some more things that can be done for a better system but I think you'll find them in your research.
split ac indoor unit is also available for water + coolant mix to get cooling from it. In india it is available from local manufacturer.
During monsoon season, GI pipes can rapidly corrode.
ok
@@lumencity To prevent corrosion, some plastic cover over GI pipes is good. Flipside is, covering GI pipes with plastics reduces thermal conductivity.
Waiting for prototype
Aap kya us colant ke under hi air bubble flow karake uski efficient bada sakte ho kya .reply pls
Air Bubble? Sorry Samjha nai
@@lumencity matlab direct water mei sei hawako flow karake jaise hukka mei hota hai jo smoke hota hai woh waterke andar jakar fir upar ati hai usi tarah.
I think 10 to 15 degree change hi hoga to ye to direct and indirect 2 stage evaporative cooling jesa hi huva, fir to ye cost effective nahi hai, just for cooling purpose, isski jagah first stage pe evaporative cooling se Pani ko thanda Karo Bahar aur motor se us thanda pani ko room ke rediator se jodo aur cool karo
bakwas. better idea geothermal hi hai. bas land honi chahiye ya govt water pipeline se bhi do join lekar us se cooling le sakte hai ya phir windows ac ki out side unit room ke bahar karke uski heating coil condensore ko water tape se cool karke electricity bacha sakte hai.
Will cost a lot,
simply one can install 10 12 feet underground metal pipe with one opening at outside 12 15 feet far from the house,
one opening at inside the house with exhaust fan for air suction through the pipe,
this should work upto some extent
It would Not be much helpful due to following reasons
1) Outside air would be very Hot or cold depending upon the outside temperature and a 10-12 Ft pipe would not make much difference to the temperature of the air
2) The specific Heat capacity of air is much lower than water
3) It would cause lots of maintenance issues with blocked pipes and dusk getting into your home
@@lumencity i think my idea is good only for underground bunkers for ventilation 😂👍
bhai jitna lamba tubing karoge utna jyada liquid friction hoga. Jiske waja se pumping me motor power jyada lagea. Moto energy saving ka fullfill kaha hua phir ??????
That is a new Point we have not thought about it will do a research on it as well and would share details in upcoming Videos
Ye toh lakho ka project lag raha h isse badhiya toh ek chota ac kharid lega aadmi estimated cost toh batao Bhaiya ji Iss project ki
Kindly add water tank over the GI pipes just like underground water tank
I did not Understand your Point 😬 please elaborate
@@lumencity to store cool water
1.5 lakh ka project hai sir ka
Chapest is on grid solar + air-conditioning
Absolutely right
@@RaviPithva wrong paani se bhi indoor ac unit chalaya ja sakta hai 23 degree tak ka temp liya jaa sakta hai aur aapki knowledge ke liye bata du ki carrier aur cruise ne paani se chalne wale ac banaye hai jo 4 ton ki jagah 2 ton se hi kaam chal jaata hai. lekin carrier ke dealers ko iske baare mein nahi pata but service centre wale jaante hai kyoki wo repair karte hai aur har city mein yeh availbale nahi hai.
@@raghuvansiboy pahele aap ye bato ki pani compress ho sakta hai ya nahi ? Phir aage baat karenge..
(1)Coolant leakage ek badi problem hogi ground water polluted hoga .
(2)Agar earthquake Aya or underground pipeline block ho gyi to repair kese hogi
(3) Ghar shift krne pr sift nhi kr skte
Baaki sb to thik hee hoga
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Sir I think we can use failed borewell holes if they are available nearby
But They would already have pipes in them, plus the surface area we need to cool down the coolant would not be sufficient and plus we have to create a loop of pipes one input and one output But I guess It can be done and tested 👍 Great Work
Any metal pipe won’t work as in video is also showin plastic pipe not metal
Itne kharche me Toe 10 year ka bill bhar lege ac ka😂
nahee sahi tarkeeb yeh hai agar paani + coolant se indoor split ac run kari jaa sakti hai aur bldc water pump se bahut kam bijli kharch hogi.
Coolant is costly.. good coolant is around 500 per litre.. it means 20k 30k would be spent in coolant and labour and GI pipe and motor electricity power consumption and radiator fan power consumption would be too costly and this system will replace only 2ton AC max..
we are doing deep research on that, and would showcase our prototype in our upcoming videos.
1) humidity effect
2) दरवाजा मकान के बंद रखने पड़ेंगे like AC system यूज करते वक्त करना होता हे ?
लास्ट अच्छा initiative है ❤
Aap bechana chalu kare to hame batana
Why don't we use aluminium pipe?
Yes we can use aluminium pipe but they will get corrosion easily
GI coated w/zinc provides increased resistance but is not going to be corrosion proof over a considerable period of time.
The way our properties are structured, majority of installation will have something on the ground level (above the pipes - mostly landscaped gardens etc.
Ppl will be vary of investing or become party to such a venture if there is even an iota of a chance that the GI structure may fail and that the whole thing may have to be uprooted. This may lead to a lot of destruction of say landscaped gardens etc.
Chance of coolant leaking into the ground may just put off many normal right minded people.
GI systems (especially joints) are not a particularly attractive option when it comes to their pressure handling capabilities.
At some level a no leak guarantee will not be a landmine that can be sidestepped. This is where a PEX installation will prove invaluable. 0 leaks underground can be guaranteed if the the installer is even moderately trained.
GI will require above par (=₹₹₹) installers.
I can understand the bit about reduced load transfer capability of PEX but that has to be properly quantified and then compared to the challenges that a GI system will pose.
Great advice Thank You 👍
agar jameenn me temp ka farak to sirf 1-2 degrees hi hoga thenn how. can someonne can achieve 10-5 degreed deffernce inside ac area
simple example , in hot weather we get cold ground water because of latent heat transfer, in cold weather we get hot ground water. next time please check temp difference, thanks
Kuchh kuchh samajh mein aaya kuchh kuchh samajh mein nahin aaya achcha detail mein samjhaen itna kaise bataun pipe dal ke Pani dalkar cooling Karega kaise successful hai
Bhai mjhe ye idea future proof bilkul bhi nhi laga aur isse repair krna bhi next to impossible h. Kuki agr koi bhi isko small scale me banane ka sochega vo ye hi krega piping ke upr building khadi kr lega aur ghr kl ko pipe leak krti h to vo unko kabhi change nhi kr sakta vo ye tabhi kr payega jab vo pipe wale sare area ko open chode uske upr build garden kuch naa banaye total wastage of land.
Ye system bilkul esa h jese kisi car ka cooling and AC system kam krta h. Pr iske andr AC gas and compressor bhi hota h, chlo compressor ka kaam hamari earth kr rhibh aur chlo AC gas ka kaam coolant kr rha h isme bhi issues h, ek issue coolant kabhi bhi us level ka chilled nhi ho sakta aur dusra ek coolant ki bhi apni life hoti h, usko bar bar change krna bohot expensive padega.
Ye system bolne me aur dikhne me simple h but ye complex to maintain h koi bhi normal admi to pagal hi ho jayega.
May be we would try it soon and make video then we could update about further details
Sir I don't think it works because of leakage
It needs a great workmanship as gases in an air conditioners are more prone to leaks than water or coolant from these pipes
It is better to use hot and cool ac. Aprox ₹35k to ₹40k.
The Point is to save electricity ⚡️
humidity k mosam ma kia kry ga ye?
This system cannot beat high humidly levels but in that case a dehumidifier can be used, we have not tested it yet but I hope that running this system with a dehumidifier might consume less power