Bragging about your wealth while your actions portray poverty like not tipping or avoiding paying $2 for a lemonade is so representative of the MLM dissonance
It's insane, I'm not even well paid and I would never imagine stooping to that level, not to mention if I went to convention (on my PAID vacation, most likely!) I could spend $20 on a burger meal and so on for few days without going broke.
@@meckelbuRight, the audacity of not being able to afford it while shaming the servers into thinking *they’re* the ones not making “real” money. Like honey, you’re in no position to give career tips if you can’t afford to pay a tip
My mother use yo do this back in the 80s and 90s. She thought the “make your own lemonade” hack displayed savviness and cleverness. She was completely unaware that to others it seemed miserly and rude. She also tended to make my brother and I share a meal (despite us being big enough and hungry enough for our own) , and she tipped extremely little. This is all despite the fact that she was a waitress herself for a long time. At times working two waitressing jobs at a time to support us. It’s as if once she got a better paying job, she forgot all the headaches of being a server. She would leave an Avon catalog or a card for Pampered Chef with her measly tip. As if that would help them earn money, when she was making far more than them at her job and still was being a cheapskate.
They never paid for anything. The story says they just ate the complimentary breadsticks, asked for lemons and sugar and didn't leave any tips. It just screams I have no money to even buy something to eat.
Zeke sounds just like my Kory, if he wasn't sitting on my feet I'd be looking to see what he was yowling about. By the way, Kory just ignores Zeke. Thanks for your hard, careful and honest work fighting MLMs.
Hi, I'm the one who submitted the nursing mom Optavia story! I'm stoked you actually read it and I've loved reading all the comments related to it. I wanted to give an update to say that Christy is ABSOLUTELY targeting postpartum nursing moms to try Optavia. She just made a post today, which I will abbreviate and edit for length and privacy... "Becky hopped on one of my plans for nursing mamas when her baby was just 2.5 months old. She lost 55 pounds, had no issue with her milk supply, and is celebrating increased energy." Yet again, the Optavia 5-in-1 disclaimer is present on the before and after photos. It sickens me that it wasn't just me reading into Christy's own experience as a nursing mom, she's still actively targeting others by saying this mom had success with no affect to her milk supply. This is so, so dangerous. Stay vigilant Mamas, and thank you SO much Hannah for reading my story and bringing awareness!
Thank you for sharing your story! The struggles with losing baby weight while breastfeeding really resonated with me. Made me feel less alone, even though I didn’t have to endure an Optavia Hun during my breastfeeding period.
Hi! I'm a nurse, lactation consultant and tandem nursing mom of 2. Your story made me so angry and sad all at once. Breastfeeding is incredible for your baby and this mom is sabotaging nursing moms by starvation. It's incredibly dangerous for anyone, but like you said, especially awful to be targeting post partum moms. How ever you choose to feed your baby, your body needs at least a year to recover from giving birth and you need good nutrition to be your best for your baby. Thanks for your story! Hopefully new moms can be made aware of the dangers of optavia and other unregulated and unsafe supplements and diets
I had a Kirby salesman come to my home about 30 years ago. He was severely allergic to cats and I had three! Poor guy was miserable so needless to say, the sales pitch was not very long! My cats were my heroes!
Side note: You can often buy a Kirby from a local pawn shop for MUCH cheaper than from the sales person. AND there is no creepy sales pitch at the pawn shop! lol
@@figgysbookishuniverse97Kirby has been here at least 30 years. As a young person in the nineties I was recruited. I did the first day of the one week training, and the rep told me they go into the housing commission areas SPECIFICALLY because they're less educated and easier to sell to. I had actual morals, so you'll be glad to know I didn't go back for day two. Even as an 18 year old I knew that mentality was exploitative. Trying to sell multi thousand dollar vacuum cleaners to people with threadbare carpet was just super gross to me.
Stop apologizing for Zeke! By now anyone watching your channel should be well aware that Zeke is going to sing the song of his people while you film. He has many anti MLM opinions, and he wants us to hear them all! ❤
New viewer, I like reading comments before I watch a video to kind of get a feel for the community... I was very confused about who Zeke was and now that I know..... I can't stop laughing, because I feel her pain. I have 7 cats (all rescue babies) 4 of them like to talk over you when you're trying to talk about important things. Please never apologize for your animals.
Ive literally never heard of salesmen forcing their way into people's houses like that. All I could think was, I live in Texas, that's a good way to get shot 😬 absolutely unexpectable behavior
Same in NC. Don't try putting your foot in anyone's door, especially where I live. I can't believe the salesmen are still taught that stupidity... it's far too dangerous.
I'm a Texan also & wish I had that option a few times, even just to scare them off. Sadly, I was a little mouse until I hit like....32. Lol. So I've been barged in on, talked down to, etc. Still no gun, BUT I now have 7 dogs, 3 of which are medium to large & a plethora of cats 😅 absolutely no one comes into my yard now 😁😁😁😁
I had no appetite due to PPD and it ABSOLUTELY affected my milk supply, I ended up having to supplement with formula to meet my kids needs. Promoting a starvation diet postpartum isn’t just irresponsible, it’s dangerous. PPD can present even worse if moms basic caloric needs aren’t being met.
It’s crazy to me how different each pregnancy is not just from person to person, but from pregnancy to pregnancy. With my first at about 6 months old I decided to crack down and get in shape. I was exercising basically daily, eating about 1200-1500 calories a day (not a program, just counting calories) and my milk was awesome. I had so much. Similar story with my second, but now my third I’m only 10 months in and I can barely keep up. I’m eating plenty, not really exercising, and not trying to lose weight but I’m way worse than when I was. Everyone is different I guess 🤷🏻♀️
PPD is a major factor in insufficient breastmilk production. Sometimes people get the cause and effect mixed up. Treating the PPD with proper medication ( check the thyroid!!) can result in a return to sufficient milk production.
i will never underestimate the importance of nutrition during breastfeeding now that i've been through it! before i got pregnant i was very underweight and hardly ate, and stayed that way throughout my pregnancy. even the doctors thought my son would be very small and i basically had no bump... thankfully he came out 50th centile despite my terrible diet. but nursing changed all of that, i went from eating a couple bites at meals to two full adults portions every meal and still feeling hungry! been nursing for two years now and its changed my entire outlook on nutrition. how awful it must be to have some MLM pray on your vulnerabilities during such a sensitive time, my heart goes out to those women and their babies.
My dog is the saaaame. 7:12 pm, without fail, she rounds up absolutely everyone in the house to put her to bed - including any visitors. Once she’s in bed it’s ok to leave, but she wants absolutely everyone in one place at bed time. And this is a BIG dog lol.
It's definitely OK to say a day with a newborn baby sucks because a lot of them do. I promise it gets easier at 6 months- you're nearly there girl, keep going 💗
Absolutely! When my twins were newborns I dreaded every day my husband worked and I had to take care of them alone. It was soooo hard! But now it’s so fun and I look forward to it every day and can’t wait for them to wake up lol
I listen to a lot of horror stories (mlm and non mlm) and if a dude barged his way into my home, I’d 100% think I was in physical danger. Ignoring peoples boundaries, fear, and requests for your to leave is not okay
Yup! Refusing to leave someone's property when your presence is unwanted is technically BURGLARY. Kirby dude wasn't just being pushy - he was committing a literal crime!
@@tarajhI spoke of this in my own comment but this is exactly correct. It's a forced entry into the home. Even so much as putting a foot in the door to prevent someone from closing it is a crime. The fact that the man wasn't arrested bothers me. I'm expecting one day for a rep to just be shot because they decided to barge into someone's home. I'll have no sympathy should it happen. MLM's already attract some pretty crazy people but I think Kirby pulls in physically dangerous and crazy people.
Per the Kirby horror story, this is why I NEVER answer the door unless I know who it is. Ring doorbell cameras will force these door to door salespeople out of business, or at least remove the D2D aspect of the job. Forcing your way into someone’s home is not a great sales tactic.
I'm surprised they still do this! Certainly not in my area. I haven't seen any of them since the 90s. The only other people who ever try to play games are spreading religion, but even that is scarce.
With strangers, I literally answer the door with a sharp object in hand. If I press a certain button on my phone enough times, it automatically calls the police. Paranoia is justified sometimes.
@@EMILYHERRERAI get the religious door knocker’s they always leave me books at my door and I use them as kindling for our fireplace! Ring cameras all the way I can’t ever imagine answering however the religious ones will linger, walk around my house, look in windows etc this is unfortunately why I always have a firearm with me now when home alone. This isn’t the 1950s anymore
Wow; when I was in my 20's I wouldn't have known what to do about that Kirby salesman. But once you hit 40, you will have no problem going into the yard and screaming, "HELP! SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE". That should get him to slink off. And I kinda worry about these salespeople in the South. I have a concealed carry permit and many women in the South would have no problem pulling a gun on someone who invades their home.
Before I finished reading your comment I was thinking in my 20s I was living with my parents so I would've called my daddy & told him what was going on then very loudly asked where he keeps the gun
I was at a candle sales party. It was fun until it wasn't, that was when the hun tried to recruit the party. One by one we were called up to discuss our order with the host & MLM hun tag-teamed people. I could tell whatever was happening was unpleasant. It became my turn, I made them aware that I couldn't financially afford to join. I then was told that I could afford it. I could get one less coffee a week or start bringing my lunch or I could put it on a credit card. I told her none of those options could work but they kept trying to push. I'm not good with confrontation so I just got up and told my ride, I would wait in the driveway until she was ready to leave. She decided to leave at that time as well. She hadn't her pitch yet so she didn't know what upset me so much. I told her that her friend's tried high pressure techniques to join a company (?) that I didn't have the money to join. The way they were standing felt on the verge of physical intimidation.
Creepy af people!! Ugh! Sorry you experienced that. I think you handled it well, and I can see some people coming completely unglued if people came at them like them. They sound like entitled idiots!! 🤬
@@EMILYHERRERA I didn't know the party host or her upline, so I was lucky to not have lost a friend due to this strong-arm sales technique. If they were my friends, I'd be done with them because this isn't how you treat people PERIOD.
Me and my cat just moved, so she’s currently very vocal. During this whole video I’m walking around my house looking for her crying, and in reality it’s just Zeke 😂
I had a cat once who used to make the weirdest meows. I was playing a lot of Minecraft and kept hearing him meow constantly when I was playing. It took me *ages* to realize that the sound of a chest opening sounded ridiculously like him meowing. That poor cat was probably just like “oh my god mom what do you want.” because I’d go looking for him to check on him.
The Kirby story is honestly scary from both sides. You train your reps to essentially bust their way into homes, and they do it at the wrong home, and they're going to get seriously hurt (if not worse)
My 5 weeks ended when a teammate got arrested for ticking through the security chain. And then taking the baseball bat from a woman in her 70s trying to refuse him entry. I told the supervisor that he was lucky he got arrested (not shot) and quit on the spot as soon as the police got done taking statements. They even gave the rap to quit a ride home because they were glad to both secure us from the "store" and encourage it to fall apart in our county.
@@orionspero560 What if he stumbled upon a serial killer's house? That would be so interesting since the killer would dispose of his body somewhere and have a Kirby vacuum as a bonus.
Having gone through the Kirby training (see Hannah's MLM Horror Stories #14), they do train the door-to-door reps with aggressive sales techniques. We were never told to just barge into someone's house or literally block the door, but we were told that an effective tactic was to take the sales presentation from the living room to the bedroom (to vacuum the mattress) even if the homeowner protested.
When I worked in restaurants we used to take bets on what mlm the “boss babe” tables were part of, we could usually get it right and so many of them attempted to get gratuity taken off their checks and tried tipping with business cards and unwanted “advice” especially the it works ladies
The Institute of Human Anatomy said that breastfeeding spends 500 calories, so you're correct! They were discussing why female body has a higher fat content than males. This is why!
Zeke's just yelling his love and concern for your well-being. It's adorable to hear him fuss about his human. Adds to the good vibes of calling out shady MLM practices.
The Amway restaurant story is great. I love how OP unionized their coworkers for better conditions, and when mgmt tried to undermine them they got immediate karma! Also, the comedic irony of the Amway reps not being able to afford food or even a measly tip, yet advising the servers to contact THEM to learn how to make _"real"_ money 👀👀🤣
For those of us who could not take off the weight while nursing (and I imagine there are far more of us than those who had it just melt off of them) we call that "Maternal Reserves" that are necessary if you are in a situation where food is scarce. Once I learned that, I took solace in that.
It's important to know that some women just naturally produce more milk than they need. I knew a woman who had one baby, but her flow was so powerful she had to start the let down and let it finish before nursing her baby. She was producing enough for triplets.
Both kids i breastfed around 1 year, I had to be a little on the chubby side to keep up milk production. Once I stopped breastfeeding, I was able to shed weight very quickly with the first one. The second one was much more difficult, but there were other factors.
Do you think you also changed your diet dramatically after you stopped nursing? Or just less quantity and feeling more energetic for exercising? I found I lost weight, much more quickly with the second kid than the first, but I was also much more stressed w some marital issues after baby 2….
36:06 The difference between the “Anyone is welcome, no experience needed” rhetoric at a traditional employer and an MLM is that at a traditional employer that means “you don’t need any previous experience because once you’re hired we will train you” and at an MLM it means “you don’t need any previous experience because selling products isn’t an important enough part of our business model to either require experience or justify training.”
To the person who worked at the Hyatt, I also worked for a Hyatt and we were lucky enough to get the Herbalife convention every year. Same exact experience. No banquets, just flooding the outlets, ordering the cheapest things and not tipping. It was absolute insanity. There was a party and a bunch of them had plastic compartmentalized bead containers full of supplements. Two of the people dropped their containers and pills were everywhere on the ground. We got more enjoyment than we should have to watch a group of people scramble frantically to pick up these “miracle supplements” like they wouldn’t live another day without them.
You just know that Kirby salesman was on the phone with his backup guy. In plenty of the Kirby horror stories, the rep will call in his upline/sideline who is usually waiting nearby in a vehicle, to come help with the sales pitch. Scary. I'm glad that she was able to get him out of the home before he had someone else show up to gang up on her
@@fc7307 If by 'prove' you mean that of these store owner confirmed with the customer of that you did the 11 demonstration components after that call that the salesman makes.
I love Zeke. His meow sounds just like my late kitty who was also a talker. Zeke brings me a little hi from heaven when he talks and I’m disappointed if he does not make an appearance ❤️
Hannah, I just love how real you are! I don’t have human kids, only four legged-but my friends with human babies often talk about how fantastic life is, how being a mother is SO amazing and natural and there’s nothing better. Now, I’m sure it is wonderful and amazing, but it’s also HARD, especially when you’re a new mom. So thank you for being so honest and truthful, and having a platform where those new moms having a difficult time can feel safe to complain once in a while-hi to Zeek and Cooper! ❤❤❤
As a brown woman, my first thought was that training salespeople to use the kind of aggressive sales tactic the Kirby guy used can get the salesperson killed, especially if their skin is like mine or darker.
@@tamid2225With all due respect, you should have stopped at "I don't know" and then done your homework. Black people, especially dark skinned black people, are absolutely more prone to being on the receiving end of violence. Please please please educate yourself and listen to people's lived experiences.
You mean more likely to be killed by someone who looks like you? Because that's what the statistics say...white people aren't out here shooting brown and black people willy nilly. No reason to push the racism card where it's not needed. I'm "brown" too and I hate when we try to convince other people that black and brown people dying isn't primarily our own issue.
I’m not kidding I would absolutely start screaming if someone just forced their way into my home! That is terrifying! Also they’re putting themselves in danger! I live in Australia so not a lot of guns but people will attack if they feel threatened and what is more threatening than someone entering your home. That behaviour is unhinged!
I've told this story before but my son had the Kirby sales pitch done to him. They talked to him for over 3 hours. My son kept asking how they knew it would do what they claimed. To which they would "show" him that the vacuum did do it. Over 3 hours and they didnt get the sell. I asked him why he let them pitch especially for over 3 hours and his response was "They were cleaning my apartment for me." Ok, face palm, he won that one. Lol
Instead of stopping and explaining the "Zeke Alert," you should just make a slide that you put up that explains what a Zeke Alert is. Like some people have a disclaimer at the beginning of their videos explaining the video is their opinions, Fair Use, etc. You could have a Zeke disclaimer if and when he becomes too loud for too long and you must talk over him :) Just pop up that slide at the point in the video where you would normally tell us that Zeke is being Zeke.
I live in a city, and it's a common matter of practice to open the primary door but not the storm or security door when it's a stranger- this is a habit that is obviously for safety, but also allows you to close the door on solicitors (or missionaries!) without them being able to block the main door. Especially if you live alone, make people talk to you through the glass or screen door!
That is a brilliant idea. I have video doorbell, but havent had it long enough to consistently answer it instead of opening the door and answering in person. I do have a storm door with a lock though. Easy enough to always keep it locked while home.
I would also be concerned about the quality of the milk that she produces if she is low on her nutritional intake - if she’s not getting enough vitamins, either her body is not getting those nutrients or less is being put into her milk (or both), which could even impact the baby that receives her milk. Of course moms have enough pressure than to overthink that if they are just eating/doing what they can, but intense restriction is where I would feel worried about nutrition
I was scoring the comments to make sure someone brought this up. Some baby who is getting donated milk - probably because they are having health problems that won't work with formula and either don't have someone they can breastfeed from directly or have some reason that won't work - and this kid is given this nutritionally deprived donated breastmilk? If the kid continues to decline, the pediatricians and family etc will blame the conditions that led the kid to need donated breastmilk and not the breastmilk itself. Absolutely horrific unethical behavior on the part of that mlm hun. (Sorry for the thread necromancy, I didn't know who Hannah was till like a month ago and have kind of been binging the content lol)
eating 800 calories, shedding weight super fast, posting tons of before-and-after pics, and doing a lot of exhausting activities (pumping milk) sounds like a post partum eating disorder if I’ve ever seen one (and my god I have). there needs to be more awareness about how many are affected by this. it’s okay to not lose pregnancy weight fast, it’s okay to not loose all of it or to not loose any at all. you may have given birth, but your lifestyle and your body are still not back to how they used to be, and they may never be. the hormonal changes of pregnancy can last for years, and hormones are well known to affect weight. it’s not your fault if you don’t lose weight. it’s not a failure, it doesn’t make you less beautiful, less worthy, less good of a mother and a person. losing weight isn’t inherently healthy or good for you, it should absolutely never be a priority over proper nutrition for you and your child.
I’m not going to lie, I think I’ve been watching this series from the first one and it has yet to get old 😂 I hope have a great day and keep up the amazing work 💕💕
I feel you on the confrontation thing! It's not even just the discomfort, but also the fact that the thing they say is usually so wrong in so many ways that my brain just doesn't know where to start. I'm a nurse and get this way when someone makes an absurd anti-vax claim. I always kick myself for it after!
I'm only 5 minutes in but wanted to share that I didn't lose weight while breastfeeding one of my kids but did lose weight breastfeeding the other one. Bodies 🤷♀️
Omg Hannah!! We live in a military neighborhood but it’s not “on-base” and doesn’t require an ID to *enter* the neighborhood. So unfortunately anyone can drive through but they aren’t technically allowed to and housing is for military families only. A Kirby rep MADE HIS WAY through the neighborhood harassing several families. He had the MPs called on him and everyone was just overall uneasy. Those guys are relentless
I listen to your videos while I cook but everytime Zeke starts howling like a madman I have to stop cause I'm laughing so hard I can't cut my vegetables
Idk how she is maintaining her breastmilk supply to feed and pump everyday. Also, it ENRAGES me that she’s donating milk with optavia crap in it and they’re feeding it to NICU babies (my assumption, but it’s not good for any baby). Love you! Keep up the good work!
My theory is that she was extremely lucky with the weightloss while breastfeeding, and when she joined optavia they told her to say that it was their products that helped her lose weight.
@@cupofcozy708this is my thought as well. While I know your body prioritizes making milk if you aren’t eating enough that doesn’t last forever. It all has to be a straight up lie.
I am a nurse and lactation consultant and nursing mom of 2. I do not know the ingredients in optavia but I would highly recommend not to consume them while pregnant or nursing as they are highly unregulated..so even what's on the label may not be what's inside. Very dangerous for any baby like you said.
I used to run events security at a huge expo center , And when I tell you the 6 days of circus that was the Amway retreat was ridiculous.These people would get so hopped up off of Free amway energy drinks that they would literally Vomit all over the bathrooms or completely waste the beautiful meals that came with the event they were rude to staff it was insane.
I gave birth recently and I cannot imagine only eating 800 calories these days. Not only because of the breastfeeding (which is already super intense), but only because of having to stay awake and alert having slept 3 or 4 hours every night on average. It makes me anxious just thinking about it!!!!
It’s gotten to the point that I never answer the door for anyone I don’t recognize (thank you Ring doorbell). With that and all the scam calls, I don’t answer my phone to any unrecognized phone number either. Thanks scammers for turning me into a hermit!
I have the biggest deterrent to a Kirby sales rep - a large, very loud, black German Shepherd 🤣 there's no way any uninvited guests would ever pass his checks, though I'm also in the UK so I'll never get to use my shield haha
I love how in South Africa, most of these MLMs are loved by a lot of people 😂. They are not seen as that, they are just business opportunities for a lot of people. Tupperware used to be (and still is) a household's best commodity (it's the only word coming to mind right now). It's just mind blowing to learn all of this
Hannah, you do not need to apologize for Zeke. I absolutely love hearing him in the background. It reminds me that you are a real person sharing your real feelings from a real home. It just lends to your sincerity. That being said, I can't tell you how many times my husband has searched for a cat that snuck into our house because he heard Zeke In the background somewhere. Lol. The first couple of times (before he figured it out) I just let him look and look. We've been married 30 years and I needed a new hobby I guess. 😂 Now he just says that it's good to hear how healthy and happy Zeke is. Thank you for a most excellent listening experience.
It's probably not any worse than any other processed foods. The main issue with their program is the caloric deficit. Hannah ate them while she was pregnant and I'm sure she did her research first.
My sister in law started doing the sugar packet and lemonade thing when we go out now. I think its been going around weight watchers for awhile. Its weird, and it barely has flavor.
There is a man in my town who's notorious of trying to drag all his acquitances into various mlm schemes, he once let his wife go into prison for a fraud he committed under her name(!!!), his house has no plaster on the wall, just the bare bricks, and last time I met him in the grocery store, he was trying to grab three of those "let's save it from the waste" kinda vegetable packages that are made available for the less fortunate, and everybody is only allowed to take one package so everyone who needs it can have it. And then he caused a scene at the register, claiming that he was told he can take three. It was absurd
I had a Kirby Salesman (this was likely closer to 30 years ago) try to force is way verbally into my home and when I told him I was happy with my own vacuum cleaner and not interested in the Kirby, he insulted my intelligence for not giving him a chance. I had been trying to be polite up to that point but was so done with him after that. I do not recall what I said but he did leave. My husband came home from work shortly after that and when I told him what happened, he was enringed and walked around the neighborhood looking for the man. who had disappeared by this time, which was lucky for him
I love Monday’s because is a new Hannah video .. I’m a teacher and I wait for my planning period Monday to put your new vidoes help me cope with the stress thanks Hannah
I was in Amway back in 1992. That’s exactly Joe their conventions are. You are always on your own for . I went to two. It was two weekends of my life I’ll never get back
Nurse and lactation consultant here. (And currently tandem nursing my two babies) We recommend an extra 500 calories a day for nursing moms. This optavia thing is extremely dangerous for anyone, especially nursing moms and even non nursing moms because you cannot be starving yourself to be your best for your baby regardless of how you choose to feed your baby
As a previous server bartender and now the wife of a director of operations for a really fancy restaurant chain, I can say that unfortunately rich people not tipping waitstaff is actually normal, sadly. Over 15 years ago whenever I worked at outback steakhouse, New York Yankee pitcher Andy Petite and his family often barely left 10%. They would done on lobster and steak then leave $20 on a $200 tab. We had another rich guy who used to come in with his wife and son and they would all order lobster. He never left a tip once. And unfortunately as a server if you refused to wait on somebody you would get in trouble. Management wouldn't do anything to compensate the staff that had just worked for free. What's sad is that on the opposite spectrum you would have a young adult that probably makes minimum wage, leave a 20-25% tip. It's just crazy. The reason why management doesn't care, is because over all the server is still making way more than minimum wage so in the grand scheme they can't complain. My husband's wait staff, if full-time, make $50k-$60k a year, so while it is irritating to work for free for that table, overall the server is still making almost $30/hour
GIRL. Stop apologizing for Zeke! lol! I LOVE seeing him and hearing him, and I know many others do, too! 🥰. Most cats that I have encountered are very content staying away from their human, so it's so freaking cute to me to see him almost begging you to pay attention to him lol. It makes your videos seem more "homey" and comfortable ❤.
I tried Isagenix post partum 😬 Yes! Some days are extra hard, and that’s ok. I remember running into a friend at Target, after a long night. I was still in my PJs🙈 I just didn’t care. I was almost out of formula, so I was on a mission. Another Target post partem story. I thought my car was stolen, so I called the police, then my husband. 10 minutes later my husband called me, telling me he was at the Target parking lot, standing next to my car😩 You’re doing amazing!
If someone even so much as puts their foot in your door and blocks you from closing it, they've committed a forced entry and you are within your rights to call the police. I know this because I got into a full-fledged fight with someone when they did this and when I called the police afterwards (and they even knew the person, who was a known troublemaker, despite being in their teens), they informed me of this. A person doesn't have to be fully in your home for it to be an entry that was unauthorized. While I'm not a fighter, had that Kirby rep tried to do the same thing the other guy I fought did, I probably would've just gone straight to trying to break his kneecap. I'm not going to politely ask you to leave when you've forced your way into my home.
Fun fact-with both my kids I nursed for a full year-sometime around 6-9 months when they started solids and the demands on me lessened I dropped 10lbs in a month without trying. With my first it happened 6 months, my second it was around 9 months. My body legit was not gonna let go of that weight until the demand for milk was less. So for some of us our bodies have a really strong sense of self preservation and won’t drop the weight until it knows we can handle it. Hope this helps someone feeling discouraged about it! My aunt is an ob and she says-it takes 9 month to grow a baby-give yourself at LEAST that long for your body to go back to normal.
I was under Kirby for 5 weeks right out of college. The way they've got their minimum system set up You need to get through 60 doors in a month ( which includes getting to that phone call in the house) to get your salaried minimum, otherwise you're limited to your comitions. Yeah, now the way the incentive structure is set up for the managers encourages them to drive a Van full of sales people around the neighborhood. This combination means you work 2 hours for Every 45 minute appointment if everybody gets throue every dore. So they trained us that every 3 to 6 doors we've did not get through the entire team had an extra unpaid hour. My breaking point happened when I was getting chewed out by the supervisor for letting a Mercedes Benz salesman push my foot out of the way. It's when the cops rolled up on us and were detaining the entire team. Because someone had just been arrested for kicking through a security chain. And then taking the baseball bat a woman in her 70s ( in scrubs) tried to use to expel Him from her house so she could go to work.
I gave birth in late May, myself. During pregnancy, I gained 53 pounds and only dropped 15 pounds after birth, breastfeed exclusively, and only lost 2 more by the 2nd month postpartum. And my period came back within 5 weeks postpartum!! I've been trying to balance caring for my daughter with eating quick, ready made but healthy meals and have lost another 7 but still well above my pre pregnancy weight. It is hard mommas and you're doing so much! Give yourself credit for carrying and sustaining a beautiful new person.
Bragging about your wealth while your actions portray poverty like not tipping or avoiding paying $2 for a lemonade is so representative of the MLM dissonance
It's insane, I'm not even well paid and I would never imagine stooping to that level, not to mention if I went to convention (on my PAID vacation, most likely!) I could spend $20 on a burger meal and so on for few days without going broke.
@@meckelbuRight, the audacity of not being able to afford it while shaming the servers into thinking *they’re* the ones not making “real” money. Like honey, you’re in no position to give career tips if you can’t afford to pay a tip
@@meckelbuThose conventions with MLM's usually are not paid for, I've learned in watching these horror story videos, lol.
My mother use yo do this back in the 80s and 90s.
She thought the “make your own lemonade” hack displayed savviness and cleverness.
She was completely unaware that to others it seemed miserly and rude.
She also tended to make my brother and I share a meal (despite us being big enough and hungry enough for our own) , and she tipped extremely little.
This is all despite the fact that she was a waitress herself for a long time. At times working two waitressing jobs at a time to support us.
It’s as if once she got a better paying job, she forgot all the headaches of being a server.
She would leave an Avon catalog or a card for Pampered Chef with her measly tip. As if that would help them earn money, when she was making far more than them at her job and still was being a cheapskate.
They never paid for anything. The story says they just ate the complimentary breadsticks, asked for lemons and sugar and didn't leave any tips. It just screams I have no money to even buy something to eat.
Zeke's incessant yowling is a feature, not a bug! 😸
Agreeeeed hahaha
Cat yowling makes me feel right at home as it’s the soundtrack of my entire life. 😅
Right!! Zeke is amazing and I love hearing him ❤
exactly !!
Zeke sounds just like my Kory, if he wasn't sitting on my feet I'd be looking to see what he was yowling about. By the way, Kory just ignores Zeke.
Thanks for your hard, careful and honest work fighting MLMs.
Hi, I'm the one who submitted the nursing mom Optavia story! I'm stoked you actually read it and I've loved reading all the comments related to it. I wanted to give an update to say that Christy is ABSOLUTELY targeting postpartum nursing moms to try Optavia. She just made a post today, which I will abbreviate and edit for length and privacy... "Becky hopped on one of my plans for nursing mamas when her baby was just 2.5 months old. She lost 55 pounds, had no issue with her milk supply, and is celebrating increased energy." Yet again, the Optavia 5-in-1 disclaimer is present on the before and after photos. It sickens me that it wasn't just me reading into Christy's own experience as a nursing mom, she's still actively targeting others by saying this mom had success with no affect to her milk supply. This is so, so dangerous. Stay vigilant Mamas, and thank you SO much Hannah for reading my story and bringing awareness!
Thank you for sharing your story! The struggles with losing baby weight while breastfeeding really resonated with me. Made me feel less alone, even though I didn’t have to endure an Optavia Hun during my breastfeeding period.
Thank you so much ❤❤
Hi! I'm a nurse, lactation consultant and tandem nursing mom of 2. Your story made me so angry and sad all at once. Breastfeeding is incredible for your baby and this mom is sabotaging nursing moms by starvation. It's incredibly dangerous for anyone, but like you said, especially awful to be targeting post partum moms. How ever you choose to feed your baby, your body needs at least a year to recover from giving birth and you need good nutrition to be your best for your baby. Thanks for your story! Hopefully new moms can be made aware of the dangers of optavia and other unregulated and unsafe supplements and diets
Good luck to those momma's bones! The body WILL take what it needs to make breast milk.
You should put a cat tree in the background so Zeke can hang out with you and we can watch him
Ahh, but just don't buy a cat tree because that's the best reason for a cat to ignore it.
#ZekeCam
Janets idea is gold.
Best idea ever 😻
I think Kendall Rae has bought several different ones to try to entice her cats to sleep on film lol 😅
Zeke, thank you for allowing Hannah a guest slot on your channel.
I had a Kirby salesman come to my home about 30 years ago. He was severely allergic to cats and I had three! Poor guy was miserable so needless to say, the sales pitch was not very long! My cats were my heroes!
Go cats! 😻 I have 5. 💖
@@mermeow cats are the best😻😻😻😻😻
Side note: You can often buy a Kirby from a local pawn shop for MUCH cheaper than from the sales person. AND there is no creepy sales pitch at the pawn shop! lol
I saw one in the wild in Australia last year. I didn't even know Kirby had made it to Aus!
@@figgysbookishuniverse97 Hopefully it was just the vacuum that made it into the wild and not a sales person!
@@figgysbookishuniverse97Kirby has been here at least 30 years.
As a young person in the nineties I was recruited. I did the first day of the one week training, and the rep told me they go into the housing commission areas SPECIFICALLY because they're less educated and easier to sell to.
I had actual morals, so you'll be glad to know I didn't go back for day two. Even as an 18 year old I knew that mentality was exploitative. Trying to sell multi thousand dollar vacuum cleaners to people with threadbare carpet was just super gross to me.
I got one for $15 from FB Marketplace.
Good info, thanks!
Stop apologizing for Zeke! By now anyone watching your channel should be well aware that Zeke is going to sing the song of his people while you film. He has many anti MLM opinions, and he wants us to hear them all! ❤
Agreed! The only thing upsetting to me about Zeke is that I can’t give him a cuddle through the screen.
You speak truths.
yes !! and anyone who has problem can take it up with me personally 😤
we love zeke!
Lol the song of his people 😁
New viewer, I like reading comments before I watch a video to kind of get a feel for the community... I was very confused about who Zeke was and now that I know..... I can't stop laughing, because I feel her pain. I have 7 cats (all rescue babies) 4 of them like to talk over you when you're trying to talk about important things. Please never apologize for your animals.
Ive literally never heard of salesmen forcing their way into people's houses like that. All I could think was, I live in Texas, that's a good way to get shot 😬 absolutely unexpectable behavior
I’m in GA… same here.
It has been a "meme" since I was little. In the 1960's. I think the Lucille Ball show even had an episode about it.
Same in NC. Don't try putting your foot in anyone's door, especially where I live. I can't believe the salesmen are still taught that stupidity... it's far too dangerous.
I’m in California and that’s all I was thinking!
I'm a Texan also & wish I had that option a few times, even just to scare them off. Sadly, I was a little mouse until I hit like....32. Lol. So I've been barged in on, talked down to, etc. Still no gun, BUT I now have 7 dogs, 3 of which are medium to large & a plethora of cats 😅 absolutely no one comes into my yard now 😁😁😁😁
I had no appetite due to PPD and it ABSOLUTELY affected my milk supply, I ended up having to supplement with formula to meet my kids needs. Promoting a starvation diet postpartum isn’t just irresponsible, it’s dangerous. PPD can present even worse if moms basic caloric needs aren’t being met.
It’s crazy to me how different each pregnancy is not just from person to person, but from pregnancy to pregnancy. With my first at about 6 months old I decided to crack down and get in shape. I was exercising basically daily, eating about 1200-1500 calories a day (not a program, just counting calories) and my milk was awesome. I had so much. Similar story with my second, but now my third I’m only 10 months in and I can barely keep up. I’m eating plenty, not really exercising, and not trying to lose weight but I’m way worse than when I was. Everyone is different I guess 🤷🏻♀️
PPD is a major factor in insufficient breastmilk production. Sometimes people get the cause and effect mixed up. Treating the PPD with proper medication ( check the thyroid!!) can result in a return to sufficient milk production.
i will never underestimate the importance of nutrition during breastfeeding now that i've been through it! before i got pregnant i was very underweight and hardly ate, and stayed that way throughout my pregnancy. even the doctors thought my son would be very small and i basically had no bump... thankfully he came out 50th centile despite my terrible diet.
but nursing changed all of that, i went from eating a couple bites at meals to two full adults portions every meal and still feeling hungry! been nursing for two years now and its changed my entire outlook on nutrition. how awful it must be to have some MLM pray on your vulnerabilities during such a sensitive time, my heart goes out to those women and their babies.
I love how Zeke is running the the schedules at home 😂😂😂😂 I just imagine him saying “you’re is so much trouble young lady”
My dog is the saaaame. 7:12 pm, without fail, she rounds up absolutely everyone in the house to put her to bed - including any visitors. Once she’s in bed it’s ok to leave, but she wants absolutely everyone in one place at bed time. And this is a BIG dog lol.
It's definitely OK to say a day with a newborn baby sucks because a lot of them do. I promise it gets easier at 6 months- you're nearly there girl, keep going 💗
My daughter had colic starting at 1 week after she was born and lasted months. Some days were easier than others, and sometimes her meds worked.
YUP! My baby is 2 months and while it gets easier week to week, some days and hard!
Absolutely! When my twins were newborns I dreaded every day my husband worked and I had to take care of them alone. It was soooo hard! But now it’s so fun and I look forward to it every day and can’t wait for them to wake up lol
The 1st birthday is not for the kids, it's a celebration of keeping the human alive for a full year. It gets easier.
The Amway story was funny, but it is sad to see that in America, wait staff have to depend on customers’ generosity to pay their wages.
It sure is.
I think employees should be paid by employer not customer
an MLM horror story with a worker solidarity story in the middle? You love to see it
Marxism is trash
I yearn for the moment a Kirby rep comes to my door to pitch me. I have nearly 20 years of sticking-up-for-myself words piling up and ready
The way Zeke, said 'rude' at 4:18 when Hannah said she was just gonna have to talk over him 😆
I listen to a lot of horror stories (mlm and non mlm) and if a dude barged his way into my home, I’d 100% think I was in physical danger. Ignoring peoples boundaries, fear, and requests for your to leave is not okay
Yup! Refusing to leave someone's property when your presence is unwanted is technically BURGLARY. Kirby dude wasn't just being pushy - he was committing a literal crime!
@@tarajhI spoke of this in my own comment but this is exactly correct. It's a forced entry into the home. Even so much as putting a foot in the door to prevent someone from closing it is a crime. The fact that the man wasn't arrested bothers me. I'm expecting one day for a rep to just be shot because they decided to barge into someone's home. I'll have no sympathy should it happen. MLM's already attract some pretty crazy people but I think Kirby pulls in physically dangerous and crazy people.
I'm a guy and I'd feel threatened
@@tonytoes0lol as you should, super sketch
It's literally trespassing, unlawful entry, even assault if they make you feel threatened.
Per the Kirby horror story, this is why I NEVER answer the door unless I know who it is. Ring doorbell cameras will force these door to door salespeople out of business, or at least remove the D2D aspect of the job. Forcing your way into someone’s home is not a great sales tactic.
It’s also illegal
I'm surprised they still do this! Certainly not in my area. I haven't seen any of them since the 90s. The only other people who ever try to play games are spreading religion, but even that is scarce.
With strangers, I literally answer the door with a sharp object in hand. If I press a certain button on my phone enough times, it automatically calls the police. Paranoia is justified sometimes.
@@EMILYHERRERAI get the religious door knocker’s they always leave me books at my door and I use them as kindling for our fireplace! Ring cameras all the way I can’t ever imagine answering however the religious ones will linger, walk around my house, look in windows etc this is unfortunately why I always have a firearm with me now when home alone. This isn’t the 1950s anymore
Wow; when I was in my 20's I wouldn't have known what to do about that Kirby salesman. But once you hit 40, you will have no problem going into the yard and screaming, "HELP! SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE". That should get him to slink off. And I kinda worry about these salespeople in the South. I have a concealed carry permit and many women in the South would have no problem pulling a gun on someone who invades their home.
Pushing into a home in any Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground state is playing with with fire.
Before I finished reading your comment I was thinking in my 20s I was living with my parents so I would've called my daddy & told him what was going on then very loudly asked where he keeps the gun
New country song: Goodbye Kirby
@@maryeckel9682 LOL; great idea.
Well in that case they kinda had it coming. If they were stupid enough to invade a home in the South...
I was at a candle sales party. It was fun until it wasn't, that was when the hun tried to recruit the party. One by one we were called up to discuss our order with the host & MLM hun tag-teamed people. I could tell whatever was happening was unpleasant. It became my turn, I made them aware that I couldn't financially afford to join. I then was told that I could afford it. I could get one less coffee a week or start bringing my lunch or I could put it on a credit card. I told her none of those options could work but they kept trying to push. I'm not good with confrontation so I just got up and told my ride, I would wait in the driveway until she was ready to leave. She decided to leave at that time as well. She hadn't her pitch yet so she didn't know what upset me so much. I told her that her friend's tried high pressure techniques to join a company (?) that I didn't have the money to join. The way they were standing felt on the verge of physical intimidation.
Creepy af people!! Ugh! Sorry you experienced that. I think you handled it well, and I can see some people coming completely unglued if people came at them like them. They sound like entitled idiots!! 🤬
@@EMILYHERRERA I didn't know the party host or her upline, so I was lucky to not have lost a friend due to this strong-arm sales technique. If they were my friends, I'd be done with them because this isn't how you treat people PERIOD.
Me and my cat just moved, so she’s currently very vocal. During this whole video I’m walking around my house looking for her crying, and in reality it’s just Zeke 😂
I ALWAYS think think it's my cat too 😜
I had a cat once who used to make the weirdest meows. I was playing a lot of Minecraft and kept hearing him meow constantly when I was playing. It took me *ages* to realize that the sound of a chest opening sounded ridiculously like him meowing.
That poor cat was probably just like “oh my god mom what do you want.” because I’d go looking for him to check on him.
The Kirby story is honestly scary from both sides. You train your reps to essentially bust their way into homes, and they do it at the wrong home, and they're going to get seriously hurt (if not worse)
My 5 weeks ended when a teammate got arrested for ticking through the security chain. And then taking the baseball bat from a woman in her 70s trying to refuse him entry. I told the supervisor that he was lucky he got arrested (not shot) and quit on the spot as soon as the police got done taking statements. They even gave the rap to quit a ride home because they were glad to both secure us from the "store" and encourage it to fall apart in our county.
@@orionspero560 What if he stumbled upon a serial killer's house? That would be so interesting since the killer would dispose of his body somewhere and have a Kirby vacuum as a bonus.
Especially since a lot of states have open carry and stand your ground laws in the south.
Having gone through the Kirby training (see Hannah's MLM Horror Stories #14), they do train the door-to-door reps with aggressive sales techniques. We were never told to just barge into someone's house or literally block the door, but we were told that an effective tactic was to take the sales presentation from the living room to the bedroom (to vacuum the mattress) even if the homeowner protested.
Yeah, I don't think it's a super safe job!
When I worked in restaurants we used to take bets on what mlm the “boss babe” tables were part of, we could usually get it right and so many of them attempted to get gratuity taken off their checks and tried tipping with business cards and unwanted “advice” especially the it works ladies
The Institute of Human Anatomy said that breastfeeding spends 500 calories, so you're correct! They were discussing why female body has a higher fat content than males. This is why!
I've NEVER been first! LOL. Can't believe how excited it makes me.
Zeke's just yelling his love and concern for your well-being. It's adorable to hear him fuss about his human. Adds to the good vibes of calling out shady MLM practices.
The Amway restaurant story is great. I love how OP unionized their coworkers for better conditions, and when mgmt tried to undermine them they got immediate karma! Also, the comedic irony of the Amway reps not being able to afford food or even a measly tip, yet advising the servers to contact THEM to learn how to make _"real"_ money 👀👀🤣
For those of us who could not take off the weight while nursing (and I imagine there are far more of us than those who had it just melt off of them) we call that "Maternal Reserves" that are necessary if you are in a situation where food is scarce. Once I learned that, I took solace in that.
I served for many years and that lemonade trick is more common than you'd think especially in the south.
It's important to know that some women just naturally produce more milk than they need. I knew a woman who had one baby, but her flow was so powerful she had to start the let down and let it finish before nursing her baby. She was producing enough for triplets.
If someone barges into my house I’m going to assume they mean me harm and scream as loud as I can.
(I am a woman so this shit is pretty scary)
Im a trans man and I’d be scared shitless
That’s the best response, you have no idea what the stranger’s true intentions are. Do not comply, scream and kick if necessary!
My father in law had a business selling sewing machines and legitimate vacuum cleaners. Kirby was a thorn in his side, always doing battle with them.
Next time a Kirby salesman enters your home call the police! They have no right entering your home. The audacity!!! And so so creepy!
Both kids i breastfed around 1 year, I had to be a little on the chubby side to keep up milk production. Once I stopped breastfeeding, I was able to shed weight very quickly with the first one. The second one was much more difficult, but there were other factors.
Do you think you also changed your diet dramatically after you stopped nursing? Or just less quantity and feeling more energetic for exercising?
I found I lost weight, much more quickly with the second kid than the first, but I was also much more stressed w some marital issues after baby 2….
36:06 The difference between the “Anyone is welcome, no experience needed” rhetoric at a traditional employer and an MLM is that at a traditional employer that means “you don’t need any previous experience because once you’re hired we will train you” and at an MLM it means “you don’t need any previous experience because selling products isn’t an important enough part of our business model to either require experience or justify training.”
Call the cops immediately for trespassing if the rep doesn’t leave when asked
To the person who worked at the Hyatt, I also worked for a Hyatt and we were lucky enough to get the Herbalife convention every year. Same exact experience. No banquets, just flooding the outlets, ordering the cheapest things and not tipping. It was absolute insanity.
There was a party and a bunch of them had plastic compartmentalized bead containers full of supplements. Two of the people dropped their containers and pills were everywhere on the ground. We got more enjoyment than we should have to watch a group of people scramble frantically to pick up these “miracle supplements” like they wouldn’t live another day without them.
Zeke's chattering is so cute, I love his video cameos :D
Oh, I love hearing/seeing Zeke. He's such a beauty! Thank you for sharing him with his fans! And I love your content!
You just know that Kirby salesman was on the phone with his backup guy. In plenty of the Kirby horror stories, the rep will call in his upline/sideline who is usually waiting nearby in a vehicle, to come help with the sales pitch. Scary. I'm glad that she was able to get him out of the home before he had someone else show up to gang up on her
That's so creepy. I hate that they do that 😬
If he doesn't complete the call and have of the store owner as they are called show. Show app, he doesn't get credit towards the 60 demonstrations.
@@orionspero560 oh dang! That's why they do that, then!
@@orionspero560 So do they get paid even if nobody buys anything? As long as they can prove they did X number of demonstrations?
@@fc7307 If by 'prove' you mean that of these store owner confirmed with the customer of that you did the 11 demonstration components after that call that the salesman makes.
Zeke's interruptions are the best. Never apologize for them!
I love Zeke. His meow sounds just like my late kitty who was also a talker. Zeke brings me a little hi from heaven when he talks and I’m disappointed if he does not make an appearance ❤️
Hannah, I just love how real you are! I don’t have human kids, only four legged-but my friends with human babies often talk about how fantastic life is, how being a mother is SO amazing and natural and there’s nothing better. Now, I’m sure it is wonderful and amazing, but it’s also HARD, especially when you’re a new mom. So thank you for being so honest and truthful, and having a platform where those new moms having a difficult time can feel safe to complain once in a while-hi to Zeek and Cooper! ❤❤❤
As a brown woman, my first thought was that training salespeople to use the kind of aggressive sales tactic the Kirby guy used can get the salesperson killed, especially if their skin is like mine or darker.
♥︎ Yeah, that def could be a recipe for disaster... lots of crazies out there 👀
I don’t know that darker skin makes you more prone to violence
@@tamid2225 having dark skin and being trained to force your way into people’s homes would open that rep to violence from the homeowners.
@@tamid2225With all due respect, you should have stopped at "I don't know" and then done your homework. Black people, especially dark skinned black people, are absolutely more prone to being on the receiving end of violence. Please please please educate yourself and listen to people's lived experiences.
You mean more likely to be killed by someone who looks like you? Because that's what the statistics say...white people aren't out here shooting brown and black people willy nilly.
No reason to push the racism card where it's not needed.
I'm "brown" too and I hate when we try to convince other people that black and brown people dying isn't primarily our own issue.
Story 4: I wonder how Kirby reps are doing in Florida where residents are eager to exercise their 2A rights...
I’m not kidding I would absolutely start screaming if someone just forced their way into my home! That is terrifying!
Also they’re putting themselves in danger! I live in Australia so not a lot of guns but people will attack if they feel threatened and what is more threatening than someone entering your home. That behaviour is unhinged!
I've told this story before but my son had the Kirby sales pitch done to him. They talked to him for over 3 hours. My son kept asking how they knew it would do what they claimed. To which they would "show" him that the vacuum did do it. Over 3 hours and they didnt get the sell. I asked him why he let them pitch especially for over 3 hours and his response was "They were cleaning my apartment for me." Ok, face palm, he won that one. Lol
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Instead of stopping and explaining the "Zeke Alert," you should just make a slide that you put up that explains what a Zeke Alert is. Like some people have a disclaimer at the beginning of their videos explaining the video is their opinions, Fair Use, etc. You could have a Zeke disclaimer if and when he becomes too loud for too long and you must talk over him :) Just pop up that slide at the point in the video where you would normally tell us that Zeke is being Zeke.
or maybe just put up a Zeke alert counter with a little picture of Zeke next to it in the corner of the video
Yesssss to a Zeke disclaimer and/or Zeke input counter!
Love it!
These Kirby reps are going to get shot if they keep doing that
The lemonade thing is a trick we did in high school when we didn’t have any money. That story is infuriating!
In Florida it's known as Canadian lemonade.
Once again my dog heard Zeke and thought it was a real cat so now he's looking around the house trying to uncover the fiend. lololol
I live in a city, and it's a common matter of practice to open the primary door but not the storm or security door when it's a stranger- this is a habit that is obviously for safety, but also allows you to close the door on solicitors (or missionaries!) without them being able to block the main door. Especially if you live alone, make people talk to you through the glass or screen door!
That is a brilliant idea. I have video doorbell, but havent had it long enough to consistently answer it instead of opening the door and answering in person. I do have a storm door with a lock though. Easy enough to always keep it locked while home.
If a Kirby vacuum salesman sticks his foot in your door, in my opinion that entitles you to stomp on it.
I would also be concerned about the quality of the milk that she produces if she is low on her nutritional intake - if she’s not getting enough vitamins, either her body is not getting those nutrients or less is being put into her milk (or both), which could even impact the baby that receives her milk. Of course moms have enough pressure than to overthink that if they are just eating/doing what they can, but intense restriction is where I would feel worried about nutrition
I was scoring the comments to make sure someone brought this up. Some baby who is getting donated milk - probably because they are having health problems that won't work with formula and either don't have someone they can breastfeed from directly or have some reason that won't work - and this kid is given this nutritionally deprived donated breastmilk? If the kid continues to decline, the pediatricians and family etc will blame the conditions that led the kid to need donated breastmilk and not the breastmilk itself. Absolutely horrific unethical behavior on the part of that mlm hun. (Sorry for the thread necromancy, I didn't know who Hannah was till like a month ago and have kind of been binging the content lol)
Getting everyone to come together and strike to meet demands is super cool just gotta say
eating 800 calories, shedding weight super fast, posting tons of before-and-after pics, and doing a lot of exhausting activities (pumping milk) sounds like a post partum eating disorder if I’ve ever seen one (and my god I have). there needs to be more awareness about how many are affected by this.
it’s okay to not lose pregnancy weight fast, it’s okay to not loose all of it or to not loose any at all. you may have given birth, but your lifestyle and your body are still not back to how they used to be, and they may never be.
the hormonal changes of pregnancy can last for years, and hormones are well known to affect weight. it’s not your fault if you don’t lose weight. it’s not a failure, it doesn’t make you less beautiful, less worthy, less good of a mother and a person. losing weight isn’t inherently healthy or good for you, it should absolutely never be a priority over proper nutrition for you and your child.
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If I had a Kirby vacuum salesperson just push their way in, I’d be pulling out my cell phone and dialing 911.
I’m not going to lie, I think I’ve been watching this series from the first one and it has yet to get old 😂 I hope have a great day and keep up the amazing work 💕💕
Thank you Hannah for the knowledge you spread. It has really helped me make better decisions
someone : saying hannah has a bitter , black heart
hannah : literally sunshine personified
I feel you on the confrontation thing! It's not even just the discomfort, but also the fact that the thing they say is usually so wrong in so many ways that my brain just doesn't know where to start. I'm a nurse and get this way when someone makes an absurd anti-vax claim. I always kick myself for it after!
Never apologize for Zeke, he is the star of the channel 😍
I'm only 5 minutes in but wanted to share that I didn't lose weight while breastfeeding one of my kids but did lose weight breastfeeding the other one. Bodies 🤷♀️
I lost in the first 6 months and gained the next 6... it is such a hard period...
Omg Hannah!! We live in a military neighborhood but it’s not “on-base” and doesn’t require an ID to *enter* the neighborhood. So unfortunately anyone can drive through but they aren’t technically allowed to and housing is for military families only. A Kirby rep MADE HIS WAY through the neighborhood harassing several families. He had the MPs called on him and everyone was just overall uneasy. Those guys are relentless
That could have ended very badly for him.
I listen to your videos while I cook but everytime Zeke starts howling like a madman I have to stop cause I'm laughing so hard I can't cut my vegetables
Idk how she is maintaining her breastmilk supply to feed and pump everyday. Also, it ENRAGES me that she’s donating milk with optavia crap in it and they’re feeding it to NICU babies (my assumption, but it’s not good for any baby). Love you! Keep up the good work!
My theory is that she was extremely lucky with the weightloss while breastfeeding, and when she joined optavia they told her to say that it was their products that helped her lose weight.
@@cupofcozy708this is my thought as well. While I know your body prioritizes making milk if you aren’t eating enough that doesn’t last forever. It all has to be a straight up lie.
I am a nurse and lactation consultant and nursing mom of 2. I do not know the ingredients in optavia but I would highly recommend not to consume them while pregnant or nursing as they are highly unregulated..so even what's on the label may not be what's inside. Very dangerous for any baby like you said.
I used to run events security at a huge expo center , And when I tell you the 6 days of circus that was the Amway retreat was ridiculous.These people would get so hopped up off of Free amway energy drinks that they would literally Vomit all over the bathrooms or completely waste the beautiful meals that came with the event they were rude to staff it was insane.
Holy wow, you have arrived, Hannah! You're the subject of an MLM horror story! I hope that hun steps on all the Legos.
Zeke is great my cat "Houdini" talks back to Zeke. It's silly and funny. I love it.
I gave birth recently and I cannot imagine only eating 800 calories these days. Not only because of the breastfeeding (which is already super intense), but only because of having to stay awake and alert having slept 3 or 4 hours every night on average. It makes me anxious just thinking about it!!!!
It’s gotten to the point that I never answer the door for anyone I don’t recognize (thank you Ring doorbell). With that and all the scam calls, I don’t answer my phone to any unrecognized phone number either. Thanks scammers for turning me into a hermit!
I have the biggest deterrent to a Kirby sales rep - a large, very loud, black German Shepherd 🤣 there's no way any uninvited guests would ever pass his checks, though I'm also in the UK so I'll never get to use my shield haha
Zeke just wants to add his opinion. He's an entertaining part of the channel.
Zeke doesn't like Optavia AT ALL. He's such a good boi!! ❤🥰
I love how in South Africa, most of these MLMs are loved by a lot of people 😂. They are not seen as that, they are just business opportunities for a lot of people. Tupperware used to be (and still is) a household's best commodity (it's the only word coming to mind right now). It's just mind blowing to learn all of this
Zeke is making all of those noises because he's upset about all the scammers.
If a salesperson puts their foot in my door, said salesperson is gonna leave 5 toes short.
Hannah, you do not need to apologize for Zeke. I absolutely love hearing him in the background. It reminds me that you are a real person sharing your real feelings from a real home. It just lends to your sincerity.
That being said, I can't tell you how many times my husband has searched for a cat that snuck into our house because he heard Zeke In the background somewhere. Lol. The first couple of times (before he figured it out) I just let him look and look. We've been married 30 years and I needed a new hobby I guess. 😂 Now he just says that it's good to hear how healthy and happy Zeke is.
Thank you for a most excellent listening experience.
Just started doing dishes. Best washing-the-dishes entertainment, love you Hannah!🎉❤
Yessss this is ME! Always listening to Hannah while I do the dishes haha
So, do these Optavia fuelings also have ingredients that are safe for baby? I mean, she is sending her milk to other moms. That’s very concerning.
It's probably not any worse than any other processed foods. The main issue with their program is the caloric deficit. Hannah ate them while she was pregnant and I'm sure she did her research first.
Well that is somewhat comforting. I was imagining “It Works” type ingredients.
My sister in law started doing the sugar packet and lemonade thing when we go out now. I think its been going around weight watchers for awhile. Its weird, and it barely has flavor.
There is a man in my town who's notorious of trying to drag all his acquitances into various mlm schemes, he once let his wife go into prison for a fraud he committed under her name(!!!), his house has no plaster on the wall, just the bare bricks, and last time I met him in the grocery store, he was trying to grab three of those "let's save it from the waste" kinda vegetable packages that are made available for the less fortunate, and everybody is only allowed to take one package so everyone who needs it can have it. And then he caused a scene at the register, claiming that he was told he can take three. It was absurd
I had a Kirby Salesman (this was likely closer to 30 years ago) try to force is way verbally into my home and when I told him I was happy with my own vacuum cleaner and not interested in the Kirby, he insulted my intelligence for not giving him a chance. I had been trying to be polite up to that point but was so done with him after that. I do not recall what I said but he did leave. My husband came home from work shortly after that and when I told him what happened, he was enringed and walked around the neighborhood looking for the man. who had disappeared by this time, which was lucky for him
I love Monday’s because is a new Hannah video .. I’m a teacher and I wait for my planning period Monday to put your new vidoes help me cope with the stress thanks Hannah
I was in Amway back in 1992. That’s exactly Joe their conventions are. You are always on your own for . I went to two. It was two weekends of my life I’ll never get back
Waking up to a new CC video followed by a Hannah video. Today's going to be perfect 😅❤
Oh, my gosh! Thank you for this comment! I didn't get a notification from CC so I had no idea! I'll have to watch her next!
I knew Zeke was there before I heard him because your plant was moving 😂
Nurse and lactation consultant here. (And currently tandem nursing my two babies) We recommend an extra 500 calories a day for nursing moms. This optavia thing is extremely dangerous for anyone, especially nursing moms and even non nursing moms because you cannot be starving yourself to be your best for your baby regardless of how you choose to feed your baby
As a previous server bartender and now the wife of a director of operations for a really fancy restaurant chain, I can say that unfortunately rich people not tipping waitstaff is actually normal, sadly. Over 15 years ago whenever I worked at outback steakhouse, New York Yankee pitcher Andy Petite and his family often barely left 10%. They would done on lobster and steak then leave $20 on a $200 tab. We had another rich guy who used to come in with his wife and son and they would all order lobster. He never left a tip once. And unfortunately as a server if you refused to wait on somebody you would get in trouble. Management wouldn't do anything to compensate the staff that had just worked for free. What's sad is that on the opposite spectrum you would have a young adult that probably makes minimum wage, leave a 20-25% tip. It's just crazy. The reason why management doesn't care, is because over all the server is still making way more than minimum wage so in the grand scheme they can't complain. My husband's wait staff, if full-time, make $50k-$60k a year, so while it is irritating to work for free for that table, overall the server is still making almost $30/hour
GIRL. Stop apologizing for Zeke! lol! I LOVE seeing him and hearing him, and I know many others do, too! 🥰. Most cats that I have encountered are very content staying away from their human, so it's so freaking cute to me to see him almost begging you to pay attention to him lol. It makes your videos seem more "homey" and comfortable ❤.
I tried Isagenix post partum 😬
Yes! Some days are extra hard, and that’s ok. I remember running into a friend at Target, after a long night. I was still in my PJs🙈 I just didn’t care. I was almost out of formula, so I was on a mission.
Another Target post partem story. I thought my car was stolen, so I called the police, then my husband. 10 minutes later my husband called me, telling me he was at the Target parking lot, standing next to my car😩
You’re doing amazing!
Amway is the epitome of pushy sales, to the point of ruining friendships.
If someone even so much as puts their foot in your door and blocks you from closing it, they've committed a forced entry and you are within your rights to call the police. I know this because I got into a full-fledged fight with someone when they did this and when I called the police afterwards (and they even knew the person, who was a known troublemaker, despite being in their teens), they informed me of this. A person doesn't have to be fully in your home for it to be an entry that was unauthorized. While I'm not a fighter, had that Kirby rep tried to do the same thing the other guy I fought did, I probably would've just gone straight to trying to break his kneecap. I'm not going to politely ask you to leave when you've forced your way into my home.
My oldest cat Panda meowed back at Zeke.
I am allergic to cats so do not know a lot about them but Zeke is hilarious! I’ve never heard such a loud cat. It’s really rather sweet!
Fun fact-with both my kids I nursed for a full year-sometime around 6-9 months when they started solids and the demands on me lessened I dropped 10lbs in a month without trying. With my first it happened 6 months, my second it was around 9 months.
My body legit was not gonna let go of that weight until the demand for milk was less.
So for some of us our bodies have a really strong sense of self preservation and won’t drop the weight until it knows we can handle it.
Hope this helps someone feeling discouraged about it!
My aunt is an ob and she says-it takes 9 month to grow a baby-give yourself at LEAST that long for your body to go back to normal.
I was under Kirby for 5 weeks right out of college. The way they've got their minimum system set up You need to get through 60 doors in a month ( which includes getting to that phone call in the house) to get your salaried minimum, otherwise you're limited to your comitions. Yeah, now the way the incentive structure is set up for the managers encourages them to drive a Van full of sales people around the neighborhood. This combination means you work 2 hours for Every 45 minute appointment if everybody gets throue every dore. So they trained us that every 3 to 6 doors we've did not get through the entire team had an extra unpaid hour. My breaking point happened when I was getting chewed out by the supervisor for letting a Mercedes Benz salesman push my foot out of the way. It's when the cops rolled up on us and were detaining the entire team. Because someone had just been arrested for kicking through a security chain. And then taking the baseball bat a woman in her 70s ( in scrubs) tried to use to expel Him from her house so she could go to work.
I gave birth in late May, myself. During pregnancy, I gained 53 pounds and only dropped 15 pounds after birth, breastfeed exclusively, and only lost 2 more by the 2nd month postpartum. And my period came back within 5 weeks postpartum!! I've been trying to balance caring for my daughter with eating quick, ready made but healthy meals and have lost another 7 but still well above my pre pregnancy weight. It is hard mommas and you're doing so much! Give yourself credit for carrying and sustaining a beautiful new person.
The Amway convention story is also an A+ example of how unionizing and organizing your workplace is a net benefit.
Hi Hannah! Dietetic Masters student here! A woman burns about 20 kcal per ounce of breast milk!