Build Ribbon Burner Forge w/PID temp control
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Building a ribbon burner forge for the first time comes with a lot of questions with hard to find answers. Here is a quick video hopefully providing you with some additional detail and guidance to supplement many of the other great build videos already on RUclips.
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Awesome! That you sir and success to you in your good endeavors....
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Great pearls of wisdom, absolutely right about some of the detail missing from other builds.
IMHO Especially with auto system I would pay close attention to your air/gas input manifold design, great to finally see someone using a T fitting rather than trying to drill a caddywompus hole on the bend of an elbow, I would however ensure you extend the gas nozzle tip past the vertical air input pipe to ensure no gas sinks down to the fan assembly. I would also try and introduce a slight downward slope (toward burner) on the horizontal pipe so the any gas inherently flows into the forge not back down to the fan.
No criticism, just suggestions, cheers
Thank you! Great suggestions. I did take this into account as well but in a slightly different way. I just leave the blower running for a couple minutes after turning of the gas.
you are absolutely right on your suggestions
Delaware Forge (sorry I don't know your name) - thanks for sharing. I was just researching about this assemblage with PID control/plus relay and solenoid.
The suggestions of Bunyip are solid (even about Tfiting , rsrsrsrs)- I have hard experience with gas, mainly when the bottle presssure falls down - He is totally right.
I will share my experiences - My forge assemblage is exactly the same of yours, but shape is round and the ribbon is double chamber. I casted everything with high aluminum concrete plus a rock wool blanket - the tubes are in 1"1/2 just to cause more velocity of mixture and avoid dropping /return of 'oil gas' (end of bottle charge).
Right now, I'm projecting building another one with two ribbons in paralel to obtain better yielding of gas/ temperature - I'm going to start on Damascus universe and my forge do not permit working wit more than a billet per operation - I loose lot time and energy .
But to operate two burners, I need using PID controll - what effectiveness and accuracy are you obtaining with this system?
Some questions more, if don't mind in answering:
1- your gas valve at bottle is high or low pressure? I use high pressure directly.
2- the gicle - what diameter? I believe 4,5 mm is ideal
3- Did you measure the gas consuption per working hour?
Congrats for your work and thanks for sharing
I have a similar set up but with a couple extra safeties incorporated. I use a magnetic switch so if I’m away from the forge and the power is interrupted the switch pops into the off position because if the power goes off long enough that the forge temperature goes below the ignition temp of the gas it will not allow any gas flow when power is established again. The second thing I installed which was cheap was a amp sensor on the blower. You know once the air and gas flow are correct and your blower fails the propane flame would be extremely lazy, long and soothing (just like turning the oxygen off on an ox-ac torch. So if no amperage is sensed from the blower/fan it cuts the power to the gas solenoid.
I also put separate switches after the magnetic one for the PID and the fan so I can turn the PID off but leave the fan on to help cool the forge down faster after I’m done using.
Why don't you try refractory clay I'm not a knife maker looking into it but worked at a iron foundry for over a decade as a millwright and we used cerrawool and refractory clay and it would hold 3200 degrees we were melting iron and steel and pouring it over a trough of refractory clay!
Awesome video, i would love an update on the PID controller programming. I am working on making a ribbon burner forge that my dad started. I believe i have too much volume and too many holes for the ribbon burner.
Thank you! Sorry I haven’t updated any videos lately. I sold a house, bought a new one, and still in process of moving so it’ll probably be a little bit before I get settled in an post new videos. I’ll make an update on the PID controller for you though when I get a chance
Do you got plans/parts list available for this? I’ve been wanting to build one of these but I can’t find any information out there about it
Thanks for checking out my video. I do not have a complete parts list. Most of the steel is scrap I had laying around. However, most of the purchased material is linked in the video description.
was your beard a ft longer lol?
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Thank you! Welcome to the channel. I’ll have some more videos coming in the future. Still figuring things out on here.