Big Rig Talk Scaling and Sliding Your Tandems

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Комментарии • 108

  • @Bob-M
    @Bob-M 4 года назад +29

    NEVER get out of the tractor without setting the tractor brakes, EVER!

    • @gagemoorhead4144
      @gagemoorhead4144 Год назад +1

      Hell I've done it basically my entire time driving, now my new truck I don't have as much but still do it sometimes, don't be a chicken

    • @dilshadsingh1209
      @dilshadsingh1209 Год назад

      @@gagemoorhead4144 I’ve seen wayyy too many trucks roll off and hit something doing that . I used to do it as well but definitely not safe driver aha

  • @exilfromsanity
    @exilfromsanity 7 лет назад +24

    It's very, very simple.
    Slide the 5th wheel toward the light end.
    Slide your trailer axles toward the heavy end.
    If you're heavy on the drivers & light on the steer, slide the 5th wheel toward the light end, to the front.
    If your heavy on the trailer tandems and light on the drives, slide the tandems to the heavy end, to the rear.
    When sliding the 5th wheel if you have air suspension, lower the landing gear ( dolly down) till the feet just touch the ground then dump the air. Now you have no weight on the 5th wheel and it slides very easily. unlock the 5th wheel, move as many holes as you think you need to, lock the 5th wheel, re-inflate the suspension and raise the legs back up. Generally there are two types of sliding 5th wheels. Ones with the holes closer together shift about 250 LBS per hole, ones with the holes spaced a little farther apart move about 450 LBS per hole. One time shifting and paying attention will tell you which you have. Same with trailers there are some that move about 250 LBS per hole and some that move about 450-500 LBS per hole.
    In this video he is figuring about 250 per hole on the trailer, see time hack 4:36. He is figuring to move 750 pounds from the trailer to the drivers. His trailer is 34,560 now. If he moves 750 to the drivers the tandems will be 33, 810. His drivers are at 32,480, if he puts 750 on them they will be 33,230, close enough. Actually moving 4 holes (1,000LBS+/-) would be closer. The trailer would go from 34,560 to 33,560 and his drives would go from 32,480 to 33,480, within 100 LBS front to back. Better balance gives a better ride, more balanced braking, better handling around curves, more even tire wear, and other advantages.

    • @insanelywicked873
      @insanelywicked873 3 месяца назад

      It's so simple you just wrote an entire book about it 😂

  • @GregAhler
    @GregAhler 11 лет назад +7

    I was always taught to slide the axle toward the weight. If the trailer was heavier than the drives, you moved them toward the rear. If your drives were heavy, you slid the tandem forward. I never had to move the fifth wheel. I was probably lucky in that respect.

  • @adamrust434
    @adamrust434 4 года назад +1

    I'm not even a trucker, but that whole process was explained in a way that makes total sense. Nice video.

  • @Jdorsey80
    @Jdorsey80 11 лет назад +2

    Appreciate this video Jerry. I've been using your videos a lot lately to get a better understanding of what I've gotten myself into.

  • @traviswyatt3944
    @traviswyatt3944 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the tips!!!! New to sliding tandems here!!!!

  • @standodge5536
    @standodge5536 5 лет назад +4

    I picked up chalk for my tandems! Thanks for the tip!

  • @amtraktraveler9118
    @amtraktraveler9118 3 года назад +2

    I am a new Schnieder Driver, this is helpful. thanks man!

  • @EmptySetOutdoors
    @EmptySetOutdoors 8 лет назад +19

    Yea sorry. I don't care if the trailer brakes are set or not. You set the tractor brake when you get out.

  • @TouristProfessional
    @TouristProfessional 11 лет назад +2

    I often found that looking out the driver's window at the ground was the best method to gauge how far I had slid the tandems when I was trucking. I often would pick a particular piece of gravel or mark in the pavement to use as a gauge. I would over shoot a lot less when I did that than when I just guessed at it. Just a suggestion if drivers are having trouble getting them in the spot they want them in.

  • @CesarRamirez-ry7yl
    @CesarRamirez-ry7yl 4 года назад

    God bless you man, good tips !

  • @travisburton2948
    @travisburton2948 4 года назад +1

    Makes me appreciate my straight truck!
    Redimix truck 72k loaded, just have to dail the tag axle pressure to the yardage I haul.

  • @michael712020
    @michael712020 3 года назад +4

    You really need to set your tractor brake when you get out. Even though you have the trailer brakes set, the truck can still move if the tractor brake is not set. Remember slide towards the problem. If the problem is the drives, slide towards them.

  • @tex1797
    @tex1797 10 месяцев назад

    Great job explaining

  • @Jack-Wall
    @Jack-Wall 11 лет назад

    Like the t-shirt Jerry .... mine arrive the other day here in Austria

  • @worldstar314
    @worldstar314 Год назад

    Great video thanks

  • @TruckerRaheim
    @TruckerRaheim 11 лет назад

    Great video.

  • @johnmarshall6925
    @johnmarshall6925 11 лет назад

    Nice video Jerry

  • @PeterLokey
    @PeterLokey 11 лет назад

    Awesome Video As Normal Jerry.

  • @grandlakephil
    @grandlakephil 5 лет назад

    Our trailers are 6” centers. One hole is approximately 400 lbs. fifthwheel is approximately 200 per single hole

  • @BigRigTalk
    @BigRigTalk  11 лет назад +1

    over 4000 power units in the US and 400 power units in Canada not a small company and they do seem to have a lot in the Eastern half of the US but one of their biggest lanes runs between Canada and Mexico with stuff going into Mexico being the largest as we have 3 terminals in Texas alone

  • @Chad4616
    @Chad4616 11 лет назад

    I love your videos lol

  • @4TheLoveOfGadgets
    @4TheLoveOfGadgets 4 года назад

    Thank you

  • @BigRigTalk
    @BigRigTalk  11 лет назад

    ya they are heavy trucks my other one I had the 5th wheel all the way back but this one it's 3 notches up I believe and you saw the steer weight in the video

  • @jay6157
    @jay6157 8 лет назад

    thanks dude I just upgrade doing team I'm a trucker now I follow your video since training what your digit if I need help with tandem

  • @bulruq
    @bulruq 11 лет назад +1

    Yup! EVERY time you have to adjust the tandems.....

  • @BigRigTalk
    @BigRigTalk  11 лет назад

    that's what I said in the video and what I did My weight was on the tandems so I slid the tandem towards the rear of trlr taking the weight off my tandems and putting it on the drives

  • @gorykreeze2916
    @gorykreeze2916 5 лет назад +2

    I just started driving but not sure where I should move it to.. err.

  • @albertosilva877
    @albertosilva877 7 лет назад

    Thanks a lot

  • @BigRigTalk
    @BigRigTalk  10 лет назад

    we do lot's of stuff coming in and out of the rail yards as we send lot's of our trlrs to California and to Mexico as far as dedicated no not really just the Chrysler but there is a waiting list to get on that

  • @BigRigTalk
    @BigRigTalk  11 лет назад

    glad it made it

  • @Razorbackfever
    @Razorbackfever 11 лет назад

    Hey Jerry, Have you noticed your prostar being heavy on your steers? I drive a 2013 prostar and even with the tanks under the sleeper I had to move my fifth wheel back as far as I could go to stay under 12,000 on heavy loads.

  • @joesaan4921
    @joesaan4921 11 лет назад

    Good video

  • @erg0centric
    @erg0centric 8 лет назад

    Welcome to Ontario

  • @mecagoenlahostia4910
    @mecagoenlahostia4910 8 лет назад

    maestro!!!

  • @thevagabondsageinthewoods
    @thevagabondsageinthewoods 6 лет назад

    Wow, great video and you're very patient..now I understand why to bring chalk. Thanks!

    • @jamesmoore1341
      @jamesmoore1341 6 лет назад

      Marcy The Hookah Smokin' Caterpillar check this out to make it very simple to line those axles on the 1st time everytime.
      Kwick-align @ Facebook & youtube

  • @Cryptonymicus
    @Cryptonymicus 11 лет назад +1

    So does any regulatory agency ever check the scales to see if they're giving readings anywhere close to reality?

  • @Graveltrucking
    @Graveltrucking 11 лет назад

    When I was looking at the Celadon website it looked like the most of the terminals are Eastern USA. Never heard of the company till I started watching your channel.

    • @Brooklyn_Powers
      @Brooklyn_Powers 2 года назад

      Their main terminal was off of Post Rd. in Indy.

  • @finlandik
    @finlandik 11 лет назад

    Clear as mud

  • @forrest2426
    @forrest2426 11 лет назад +1

    Man that's a workout

  • @achief7360
    @achief7360 10 лет назад

    Do you guys celadon. Have dedicated runs here in Chicago but I don't want to drive here in the city lol but yeah do you have any ?

  • @Mixmatchent
    @Mixmatchent 3 года назад

    Fuel

  • @crrolan
    @crrolan 11 лет назад +1

    Damn, wish I'd watched this sooner, would have saved me a third re-weigh. Of course I did the rookie thing and did it bass ackward, Thanks Jerry,

  • @kingsleysarfo.
    @kingsleysarfo. 2 года назад

    I sometimes see trucks with two pins what does that mean it isn’t just one ?

  • @stephendjames2610
    @stephendjames2610 11 лет назад

    Hi Jerry, just wondering if you got your money back on the 1st scale. Showing the other two, may have reimbursed your 1st weigh in.
    Safe drive my friend..

  • @SuperBighead1973
    @SuperBighead1973 4 года назад

    I always try to put more weight forward, so that I’m not dragging it. Think of the trailer like a big sack full of potatoes. It’s easier to pitch it up on your shoulder, than it is to drag them in the ground. 😉👍🏼

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 3 года назад +2

      The new trucks actually give more or less power depending on weight on the tractor. I try to get the truck tandems between 200 and 1000 pounds heavier than the trailer tandems. That seems to be the sweet spot range.

  • @Graveltrucking
    @Graveltrucking 11 лет назад

    Why doesn't Celadon use tridem vans ? is it mainly because it is American company and does most of its business on the Eastern seaboard ?

  • @achief7360
    @achief7360 10 лет назад

    Ok thanks bud

  • @teamjj153
    @teamjj153 5 лет назад

    Is that a 48 or 53 footer because if it's a 53 your past bridge la

  • @freemygrandma8752
    @freemygrandma8752 Месяц назад

    If you slide the wheels forward you're pushing the weight forward if you slide the wheels back you're pushing the weight back

  • @Razorbackfever
    @Razorbackfever 11 лет назад

    yeah, im normally setting around 11,800 or 11,900 90% of the time.

  • @nik1616
    @nik1616 8 лет назад +2

    I like this guy

  • @EdwardSaeteurn
    @EdwardSaeteurn Год назад

    What about bridge law in CA

  • @normanmcneal3605
    @normanmcneal3605 6 лет назад +1

    4 “ slides are about 250 lbs 6 “ inch are near 1000. Before you seal your trailer, get inside and see the load placement. 1200 lbs per foot on trailer floor. Why is that hard?

  • @akush55
    @akush55 11 лет назад

    yes all driver should carry paint marker - those new scale box on the new trailer only tell the weight of trailer? Loaded or M T Weight.

    • @jamesmoore1341
      @jamesmoore1341 6 лет назад

      akush55 these are for sale for $ 10 + s&h

  • @bulruq
    @bulruq 11 лет назад

    I learned that is not unusual and is probably due to the scale shaking. If the variation is 100 lbs or less that is acceptable.

  • @thedukeofmulberry
    @thedukeofmulberry 3 года назад

    I'm gonna get my CDL permit soon. So...soon as you get your load from the shipper, you gotta go get weighed because the shipper just loads it and doesn't give a crap about axle weights?

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 3 года назад

      Yup. Good shippers have an idea how to load properly but loads can differ a lot.

  • @davidhenry2026
    @davidhenry2026 4 месяца назад

  • @aussiestumpy
    @aussiestumpy 11 лет назад

    Seeing that,
    I'm so glad we just run tri axles on most of out trailers here in Australia. You don't have to worry about fiddling round with shifting the axles and turntable (fifth wheel).

    • @demetriusdavis95
      @demetriusdavis95 7 лет назад

      aussiestumpy you can get a split axle trailer here basically the same thing obviously minutes on axle

  • @swiftbladelol3831
    @swiftbladelol3831 Год назад

    did you get off the truck damn

  • @truckingswe
    @truckingswe 11 лет назад

    nice video. do you have to pay for al the scaling??..and what did the wheight after you slided the last time??...intrestning videos im watching from sweden i drive a timmbertruck with a loadcrane on..but im think off try to get a visa to Canada and drive there...so i hope you understand my english?..im gone subscribe to you channel too*L*..so i can bug you whit questions hehehee

  • @QueenBaha
    @QueenBaha Месяц назад

    💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💗

  • @elliotmaldonado9875
    @elliotmaldonado9875 Год назад

    It's very important to know how many pounds is each hole.

  • @veulmet
    @veulmet 11 лет назад

    f'd up'd love it

  • @timcrawford5882
    @timcrawford5882 2 года назад

    Don't put your parking brakes on while weighing read number 2 in the directions on the cat scale directions

  • @tulw2728
    @tulw2728 5 лет назад

    If no chalk available, do it old school style. Count the holes, write it down , work it out, no chalk needed.

  • @Azdude801
    @Azdude801 6 лет назад +1

    So is there a cost every time you go through the scale?

    • @brightbluesky1548
      @brightbluesky1548 6 лет назад +1

      Johnny Chingas $11 first weigh, $2 for each reweigh after that.

    • @Azdude801
      @Azdude801 6 лет назад +1

      Megan P Thanks Megan P

    • @jamesmoore1341
      @jamesmoore1341 6 лет назад

      Johnny Chingas check this tool put I created & designed as a driver of 16 yrs & trainer of 6 yrs. They are for sale $10+s&h

  • @BigRigTalk
    @BigRigTalk  10 лет назад

    yup company paid for all

  • @gonz5659
    @gonz5659 6 лет назад

    Hey great video how do you how much the holes are 400lbs each or ? Thx

    • @jamesmoore1341
      @jamesmoore1341 6 лет назад

      Gonz 565 Kwick-align.com @facebook/youtube

  • @BigRigTalk
    @BigRigTalk  11 лет назад

    not sure where you got the idea they do most of there business on the eastern seaboard cause it is not true and all the trailers are US plated and have to be able to go anywhere in Canada, USA and Mexico

  • @Artlopez105
    @Artlopez105 3 года назад

    How far can you legally drive after getting loaded to a scale to adjust the weight

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 3 года назад

      To the nearest scale.

    • @Artlopez105
      @Artlopez105 3 года назад

      @@Bendigo1 what if that scale is a hour away

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 3 года назад

      @@Artlopez105 if it is the nearest scale it is the nearest scale. Unless you have the scale built into the truck. If you have a scale 10 miles away but its the wrong way so you chose to got to the one the other way but is 60 miles thats on you. But if there is legitimately no scale nearby all you can do is go to the nearest scale. If you are pulled into a weigh station you tell them there were no scales and you were going to the scale they should give you a chance to weigh at their scale.

    • @Artlopez105
      @Artlopez105 3 года назад

      Ok thanks

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 3 года назад

      @@Artlopez105 your welcome hope it helps. Good luck.

  • @donnwright1866
    @donnwright1866 Год назад

    You never showed your final weigh

  • @wherewegofromhere5195
    @wherewegofromhere5195 2 года назад

    How much weight each whole

    • @Bendigo1
      @Bendigo1 2 года назад

      250 to 400 depending on the trailer and the load I usually calculate 275, it works 99%of the time.

  • @rainysunday6186
    @rainysunday6186 2 года назад

    You need to explain why instead of just saying slide five holes.

  • @rodicmilorad5
    @rodicmilorad5 11 лет назад

    yhx

  • @walterfrancis4209
    @walterfrancis4209 11 лет назад

    Great Vid Jerry, I think you should go back to being a trainer......lol

  • @clintk798
    @clintk798 Год назад

    all the scales are off. weight limits are only a road tax

  • @whiskeyandagyro3135
    @whiskeyandagyro3135 4 года назад

    Id tell the scale guy not to scale till I get out and make sure you have very little fuel.

    • @denniscummings3862
      @denniscummings3862 3 года назад

      Never! Scale your load, unless you're tanks are full,

  • @scottwehrman6721
    @scottwehrman6721 5 лет назад +1

    Oh ya guys, one extra very important thing NOT TO DO WHEN WEIGHING.
    *** NEVER PULL YOUR RED TRAILER BRAKE HANDLE, BECAUSE IT WILL SCREW UP YOUR TRUE TANDUM WEIGHT (sometimes up to 1,000 lbs) SINCE THE SUSPENSION AIR BAGS DROP DOWN.
    Think about it, when you roll across a dot scale or down the road, your air bag SUSPENSION system is fully filled. So why in the hell would you pull it on a cat scale or a dot scale ????

  • @mathematrucker
    @mathematrucker 6 лет назад +1

    What’s this “too quick on the button” nonsense? You think the CAT Scale company would set up their scales to rely on someone inside standing there watching for some cue to manually press a button to finalize the result? They would surely automate that.

    • @jamesmoore1341
      @jamesmoore1341 6 лет назад

      Kwick-align.com @facebook/youtube these are for sale.

  • @coocoo5756
    @coocoo5756 4 года назад

    Man you must have wasted a good hour plus just doing this smfh

  • @tawabahdam5415
    @tawabahdam5415 Месяц назад

    Super trucker dumb stuff.

  • @alfredbrooks2276
    @alfredbrooks2276 Месяц назад

    Downtown which way you going to slide backwards for you don't even say oh we got to side back three more four