Milk inside a bag of milk inside a bag of milk - A Game Where You Help Buy Milk
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Milk inside a bag of milk inside a bag of milk is a horror visual novel about going to buy milk.
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manly always deliver, even considers the littlest of details
wow you weren't kidding, the quality really jumped THAT high holy shit
melk
Mayonnaise is the best way to bathe
Game: 6 minutes of absolutely incomprehensible dialogue
Manly: "I could be wrong, but I feel like I already know where this story is going"
lmao that's our Manly for ya
I KNOW!!! He says that on so many videos, and I'm still completely lost on what the plot is leading towards O_o his consciousness exists on a different plain, and I'm honestly ok with that.
Oof. Is it bad that I completely understood what was happening? Lol.
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haha well he is manly after all
Looks like a game about OCD. The player’s response is the voice in MC’s head telling them about patterns and issues needing to be fixed or adjusted. The repetition in words in some parts (and the random fear of certain words and letters) can represent an obsessive compulsive person’s need to check things over and over again to insure they’ve been done right.
Great Theory!
I was thinking more like schizophrenia 🤔
The music is also kinda repetitive in some parts, but I dont know if that has anything to do with this
But it is a great theory none the less
Yeah I got that vibe too
Why is no one talking about the fact that it's kinda implied that her mum killed her dad? When trying to buy the milk, she says "mum will throw me out of the window if I don't come back with milk", and her father 'jumped' out the window. I don't think he actually jumped.
Also i agree with the majority that the MC probably has OCD, and perhaps some other mental illnesses brought on or worsened by the trauma.
it might be trying to imply that, but we also have an unreliable narrator to some extent. MC's view of the world is skewed and doesn't completely reflect reality - remember how she describes a truck as a bear? When we see her mom at the end, she *seems* scary, but all she really does is ask if MC bought milk, if the medicine helped, and then tell her to go to bed. it seems cold and intimidating, but we're being shown this the way the MC sees it, not the way it actually is. Tone and presentation make a big difference; it's entirely possible that her mom was trying to be kind to her, telling her to go to bed because she knows how exhausting the trip was for her, and being so direct about it because she didn't want to tire the MC out by forcing a longer interaction. So it could be that the mom is actually just normal but MC finds her scary because she *thinks* mom pushed dad out the window.
But, of course, it's also possible that mom *is* abusive and scary, and maybe she *did* murder the dad by pushing him out the window. We simply don't, and can't, know for sure.
Why does this have only 2 replies?
@@wildfire9280 Now it has three.
OH SHIT, I totally missed that!
I don't believe woman can throw one grown big man
Wow, thank you for playing! It means a lot.
Great game, keep it up!
This game hit so close to home with how life has been lately. Definitely gonna watch more playthroughs of it
@@zelltronic your mom kill your dad???
thank you for making a game i relate too in many ways many thanks
Whaat no way this is sick
“Milk inside a bag of milk inside a bag of milk”
*the least scary sounding game ever and yet I’m prepared to be terrified*
o
@Sam Ham o
Milkception?
It’s super Canada
@Sam Ham o
For once im glad manly didn't get all the endings. No bad endings for this girl pls. Protect her
i agree
@yuganbeats its what they deserve
is there any bad ending? I just thought that there were only two endings
@@vixenkushu564 There's a bad end that's triggered by you selecting cruel choices. It cuts to her staring at you and say something along the lines of "You won't help me so I don't need you, I'll try something else"
@@slowyourroll1146 which was showed when he tried to push something ): good thing he didn’t mean it and afterwards it was avoided.
Also, I've seen plenty of jokes about Canada and It seems funny to me too. Because in Russia (where I'm from) milk is sold in various packages including bags, carton, etc. I thought "bag" was the most appropriate and neutral translation, but seems like it accidentally became a meme.
Hello, author of the game!
Speaking of milk bags, afaik the only place that sales milk in bags is Ontario, Canada (which is why it becomes a meme in US) and that's for the most common milks (say full fat, partially skimmed etc.). They do have milk in cartons (but not as common and is usually reserved for Bourgeois milks like organic ones). Plus milk bags are in a weird 1⅓ liter format (sold in pack of 3, totalling to 4 L), which is even weirder.
@@utsuhoreiuji6155 wait organic milk is bourgeoisie?
Ayy that's where I live that's cool also really good game it made me feel anxiety and dread which is what I think was the goal probably
@@stargazer1998 depends on your standpoint imho; I personnaly do not believe in "Organic" when used in context of product. I think it is just lies made up by capitalism and born out of the need for "Premium" product.
@@utsuhoreiuji6155 based
This game is actually comforting. It's nice to know some people out there think the same way I do.
I think similarly, but it honestly makes the horror hit really close to home.
Yeah it's the same here
You might have a mild case of OCD then nothing wrong with it though
Same here, too many thoughts that stop me from making/doing important life decisions.
@@moimoiyoop Yeah, but to this extent? This is definitely diagnosable OCD.
This is... Really relatable.
I think the "only seeing red" thing is relating to danger. When you're traumatized, or anxious, everything seems dangerous. It's like everything's been coated red.
Thats makes sense
I love your name, fellow RPG nerd ♡
I saw another commenter say this, but this really has to be about OCD. It runs in my family and while I personally don’t have a diagnosis I see these symptoms in my family and I even feel it to an extent too. Constantly needing reassurance, repetition, a sudden rush of dread and anxiety after realizing a mistake (which may not be a mistake from the perspectives of anyone who doesn’t deal with this.)
Even the beginning, stepping on both grass and asphalt, the uneven nature puts the character on edge.
It feels like there is more to it than just OCD, seeing a truck as a bear doesn't seem to fit OCD, but I could be wrong.
Edit yeah! I don’t know what to attribute that to. It was an interesting piece of dialogue for sure (or was it monologue?)
this seems like schizophrenia to me (maybe both)
Álvaro López possibly? Honestly that’s as valid as anything. I just saw OCD because it can truly twist the way you perceive the world around you, but Schizophrenic disorders DEFINITELY do the same
@@heliusuniverse7460 ya i was thinking she has schiz and ptsd
mc: im terrified of the letter 'o'
manly: whats so terrifying about it?
mc: i can show you an image
manly: sure why no-
*picture shows*
manly: o
Excuse me, what?
@@EvernightTown6969 o.
Excuse me, what?
o
Excuse me, what?
‘Purely obsessional’ or ‘Pure O’ is a term commonly used to refer to a form of Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder which people mistakenly believe has no outward compulsions and only features distressing internal intrusive thoughts.
So that's why O is scary
spooky...
I used to have OCD imagining every object had a string attached
If I moved an object, I made sure to return it using the same path or else the string would tangle and make a huge mess
oh! id get stuck in actions bc id feel like id have to spin things an even number of clockwise and widdershins, or like spin it the "right" way so id catch the string.... weird how these things feel and get visualized huh?
AAAAA ME!!YOU DESCRIBED WHAT HAPPENS WITH ME, LIKE GETTING CAUGHT ON THE DOOR SO I HAVE TO LIDT IT UP AND FREE IT!! People have looked at me weird for it.
W...wait I thought it was normal? Like trying not to touch the line between the floor tiles while walking?
@@nox9328 doing it sometimes is normal, but doing it frequently, especially to the point of distraction or distress, is unusual
@@gwennorthcutt421 I mean... A relative that knows this things told me I should get some sort of tests but I brushed off as a weird thing to say... Maybe I should, it can't hurt
The horror here feels more like suffering from a mental condition more so than actual creepy horror. I mean, it's still creepy, but not in the ghostly supernatural way.
Even seeing everyone as monsters- when I was younger and going through a very bad time mentally, I didn't see people as monsters, but I got very paranoid about being outside at night because things in my peripheral vision would stand out to me and appear somewhat menacing. This game is really a kind of trip down memory lane
Reminds me of myself.
Been playing lot of games that involve doing chores lately.......wait a sec, you trying to subliminally make me clean my house or something? I'm on to you Manly >.>
CLEAN
@Yeet God If you don't clean, the Vacuum Man is gonna git u.
@@ManlyBadassHero LMAO
@@indumatipngtuber2790 And getting caught by the Vaccum Man really blows, and sucks!
@@HYDEinallcaps Well, the Vacuum Man really knows how to CLEAN up.
"But right now, i don't have the heart to do it, I feel like I should get a good ending first, or at least try to"
Thanks Manly, I appreciate that, so I'm leaving this comment to let you know that at least one person out there appreciates it.
*”I am the milk man, my milk is delicious”*
Wolves plays in the background
Special delivery today!
*but where did it came from?*
Sir, at the farm duhhh
*but... which animal?*
Sir, it's almond milk.
Almonds are animals, confirmed.
@@autumnveir1168 *and where did it go?*
It's an interesting representation of how trauma affects your perception of the world around you.
I think the main character might view other people as inhuman monsters because they have a fear of getting attached, and something inevitably happening
@@far2ez539 I was just saying my perspective on the game was that it's a representation of trauma and anxiety. I understand that fear of the unknown is bad, but it also seems to be a natural himan instinct
@@far2ez539 Can you not mix your political propaganda bullshit with mental illness please, you don't seem to know much about it,
also the OP wasn't even talking about the fear of unknown, more about the fear of attachment
@@far2ez539 i mean your presumptions also flawed. genocide wasn't done cause of the unknown, its cause of fear of losing power
@@far2ez539 just gonna be like "this small thing is flawed, im now gonna go on a flawed tangent"
I think that too. im pretty sure, according to all the comments ive read, the mc has ocd? i think its an interesting part to the story too
Ok but as soon as I heard the “one foot has taken 50 steps, the other has 51” I knew adhd or ocd has to have some play in there
I don’t know if everyone has it the same but anytime I go on a walk I have to count my steps and get unnerved if they’re uneven, honestly related to more things in this than I wanna admit but I’m glad to have a little reminder out there that others go through the same things I do and I’m not alone
I do that with the amount of times I press the buttons on the D-pad of a PS4 controller.
I don’t really know what to call myself.
I can’t even have a D-pad or controller without just fidgeting with the buttons and messing up the game lol
Navyblue 25 “Sometimes sacrificing the gameplay is necessary to play the game”- Satan~
I also relate to this as someone with PTSD.
Even mundane tasks like going out to get soda is difficult for me. If I take a different route than normal I get stressed, if the store is crowded I get stressed, if I fumble with my money or putting the soda into my bag I get stressed. Comparing the walk home to ice cream is honestly a good comparison. While the walk to the store is stressful the walk home promises the ability to relax where you feel safest with the added enjoyment of the things you just got.
Honestly, it feels kind of like a few different psychological problems being portrayed. Even maybe DID with the character talking to another voice in their head.
I think the important part isn't so much the exact diagnosis, as just how hard it is in general for our milk buyer. I'm pretty sure quite a few people feel they have some conglormation of "symptoms" and it's hard and probable a bit limiting to try to assign only one "disorder" to them
So this is how my dad got lost buying milk at the store for all those years
Ohhhh that's why you build up a business around milk. Gotta remember good old daddy
Maybe his milk man status is secretly to hunt down his dad
@@Ayyaii24 I think you're right, thats the only logical explanation
Was he going for bagged bilk, boxed milk, canned milk, or cartoned milk?
@@FriskyD. the weirdo was probably going to get... dare I say it... powdered milk.
I always forget that some people actually drink bagged milk and each time I learn it again, it hits me with the same feeling of shock.
It's called being Canadian lol
And milk even comes in bags, inside a larger bag
@@emmathornley4745 what the hell what the hell what the hell how is Canada real
thanks for this comment lol I was so confused
@@bleedmagic88 yeah, 4 litres of milk is divided into 3 bags, and those 3 bags are sold inside a larger bag. And it's actually not all of Canada that has bagged milk
I’m less than five minutes in, and the parallels between the character and myself are disturbing. I recently got diagnosed with OCD, and some of my thought patterns resemble this extremely closely. It’s frightening, but also, it helps me feel less alone...
No matter how much you feel alone with your problems, you never are 💖
I don't think that you should associate yourself with this character unless just like her you don't care about getting hit by trucks
@@yesok4244 i get what youre saying but it's pretty helpful to be able to relate to characters too! I have OCD and it's not often i see it presented
_We all talk to ourselves sometimes_
It's nice when that little voice inside your head tells you it's gonna be okay, you are good, believe in yourself, you're beautiful, you're strong. And when it doesn't... you get the bad end in this game. Since we deliberately were not given any diagnosis, I can only think -it could be anything or multiple things. There's the mention of the father, the mention of physical therapy, and definitely medication. The character's perception of the world, the clerk, the truck, the mother were obviously so skewed & scary. Interesting thought experiment game.
Oh hey it's you! Nice to see you again in manly's comment section!
@@echo_sprite Hi!! I am such a long-time viewer of MBH that everyone tends to remember me bc same name, same avatar. You must be also to know me!! We both have excellent taste in RUclips channels lol!! Thank you for saying hi. :)
Yeah of course! I think it's fun to see people I remember! The first time I saw you was when you called me a psychic! Lol
mmm burger
Is it weird that whenever I talk to myself in my mind I always bully and egg myself forward?
This game feels like it's about OCD, which is great because you don't see that often. OCD absolutely feels like a surreal fever dream sometimes, especially trying to explain your fears and compulsions and bizarre assumptions about the world to someone else, sort of like the way that the girl explains it to the player. The player appears to be the medication she's taking, trying to help her recover.
Does that voice usually feel detached from you for anyone else? I don't mean hearing voices, but the part of the inner dialog in your head that forces the obsessive thoughts onto you feels like an entirely separate entity from that regular negative self-talk voice that most humans have? I've always been curious about that.
@@FluffyNinjaUnicorn3Gaming My ocd is nowhere near as strong as hers, so I can only be a datapoint low on the scale, but for me it feels similar to intuitively remembering a deeply held fear/threat. Ive just got simple 'every edge on the floor shoots out infinite lines you cant stand on' and 'breath in twice through your nose, breath out once through your mouth'.
I would describe the feeling of stepping on an imaginary line as remembering some traumatic experience where poison spikes shot out of the floor when I stepped on that invisible line. Even though no such thing has ever happened, stepping on it still feels like 'oh god oh god, please dont hurt me oh god i can feel the poison i can feel the bruise please'
And of breathing more normally as 'Hello, Im doctor ○○○ and always remember kid, cycling breath through your nose and out through your mouth strengthens your lungs and keeps spores from taking hold. If you dont breath like this, your chest will collapse and rot'
And keep in mind no event or even imagined scene has said anything about bruise spikes or chest rot, Im just extrapolating backwards from the feelings Id get when not following those things.
As time has passed, Ive become better at imagining the world differently to avoid thess feelings, like the lines dont intersect with the floor if the floor isnt flat, and so Im at the bottom of a basin, where all the lines pass harmlessly by a meter or two below me. But I still cant stand right against any corners, cuz it cant fall away enough.
And breathing is fine if instead of air which has dust and spores and mold and rot, I was instead breathing cold water, which has been distilled and purified, with trace amounts of soap chemicals to clean everything I breath.
On a high level Im aware nothing has changed, but that doesnt mean visualizing the world differently doesnt help
6:11 minutes in and i can already TELL you without looking at the comments it's about ocd, possibly comorbid with psychosis. source: i have ocd and psychosis, i literally have these same thought processes like it's so insane.
Hey, happy new year. How are you doing?
@@deathzonekiller2261 pretty good, thank god. dealing with issues but in therapy for them and learning to deal with paranoia and how to self soothe like a champ [thumbs up emoji]
@@sizergeorge210 I'm glad to read that
Stay strong and have a happy new year
i also deal with these things so this game hit hard. i hope youre doing alright now tho
Reminds me of a visual novel I once read, the main character was nothing special, but due to some accident he ended up seeing (physically) all things beautiful/normal as monsterous beings of flesh, bone, blood, etc... He had to try to acclimate to his new perspective and while doing so ran into someone who looked normal to him, how he used to see the world.
I forget the name of it, but it was interesting.
Saya No Uta
@@ManlyBadassHero That'd be it, thank you. :)
So, basically,
The letter O seems more TERRIFYING now-
The "long gap" that she's talking about, i believe, is dissociation. Apparently this is quite common after a traumatic event. I know from experience.
I don't wanna talk about what happened but it got really bad in my late 12 years and ended in my early 14 years. Once it stopped, i was there for about two days. Then not. It was like i just dissapeared.
You know how when you take a nap, you wake up disoriented and not knowing what time it is. You might even wonder for a moment how many days have passed since you fell asleep. But of course, it's none right? Probably just a few hours at most.
Except in my case, it wasn't just a few hours.
It was 2 years.
At first (i was maybe 13 and a half i think?) it started out just kind of in and out. Like when you fall asleep in the car and a bump wakes you up, and you look out the window to see that you're somewhere else, before you fall asleep again just a few seconds later.
I woke up and fell asleep, and woke up and fell alseep over and over until i just....stayed asleep. I don't remember much so there isn't much I can say about it.
I can say that the times i was "awake" were scary, but with a little bit of a haze over it, like a translucent curtain. Maybe that's for the best. I can tell you that being "asleep" was more bearable. I can also tell you that i don't remember being 14.
Just barely, like the few flickering images you can recall from your dream when you wake up, but it gets harder and harder to remember as more time goes on. Just random bits of it that weren't even significant. Except they are because they're all i have from then.
I can also tell you that it's scary. It's so scary. I was told that me dissociating (apparently that's what it's called) was my brain's way of protecting me from awful memories, thing's that would make me scared of things i shouldn't have to be.
But it's counter productive. Because the thought that something happened to me that was bad enough to be dangerous for me to remember, scares me too.
I want 14 year old me back, but i wish i had a shield for all the ugly things that would come with knowing what happened. It feels like i lost a part of myself, and now there's a missing piece that can't be filled. Like when you're finishing a puzzle, but as you search frantically for the missing piece, you find out that it's been glued onto the underside of the table you're at. It's too stuck on to try to pry off and you can't seem to get a good grip on it. The worst part? It's glued to the table picture side up, so that you can't even see what it was suppossed to be. You can't even finish the puzzle in you're mind
It's awful. As I'm writing this, I'm realising that that wasn't the first time i was in and out. I don't remember being 4, even though my brain kinda started in a way before that. I remember less than i thought i did. I guess it's good that I'm writing about it then, despite my nerves.
So sorry for oversharing. I can't ever bring myself to let these thoughts stay in my head long enough to be thought about. It feels too overwhelming and it scares me. But idk, something about that part must've made me braver i suppose.
I can understand how you feel kind of. Something bad happened to me when I was 5, and I have very little memory of it. Up until a few years ago, I had convinced myself that it didn’t actually happened, and that I made a story up for attention. I didn’t realize that that didn’t make sense, since a 5 year old would not even know about a situation like that unless it had occurred to them. But I didn’t want to think it had happened, so I lied to myself and said I made it up. Then I told my mom that I made it up and she just said “No you didn’t” and I had to finally confront the fact that what happened to me did happen. Even now, I don’t know exactly what happened to me or how bad it got or even who did it to me but I just have to live with not knowing
I disassociate because of trauma too. I wish you both the best... thank you for sharing. Really.❤❤❤
I can not imagine how the life like that you describe would be like. I wish you the best.
Same. I can't remember certain parts of my childhood due to traumatic events. Just small snippets of moments, at most.
I understand this completely! I feel what you've felt, and I'm glad you're here to tell the story now. It takes a lot of effort for me to piece things together about my past, but the more I understand the worse it seems to get.
Milk inside a bag of milk inside a bag of milk outside milk inside milk milk milk milk inside a inside a bag of milk milk bag of milk.
Hi Hi Hi Dad I'm Dad I'm Dad I'm Dad
My head
Milk inside a bag of of bag milk milk inside bag milk of milk milk milk inside outside of milk bag of milk milk
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This is definitely about trauma and mental illness, and the coping mechanisms sufferers create to deal with it. Thinking of yourself as a character in a visual novel is actually kind of a genius one to help give you motivation and focus, though it could be dangerous like any other delusion. The girl's circling thought processes actually... feel a whole lot like my own do sometimes, and the sudden realization of her steps being unequal and her struggles to find a medication that really makes a difference anymore are also extremely relatable. Like. This game is incredibly offputting, but it also feels distinctly familiar to me, as a person suffering from severe anxiety and depression.
(I'm doing fine right now, by the way; a mix of actually good medication and better life habits have me doing pretty well right now, but the mental state this girl is in is definitely one that's familiar to me.)
Hey dude, happy new year. How are you?
@@deathzonekiller2261 Happy new year! I'm actually doing very well, thank you for asking! That's really sweet. I actually just started a new combo of meds that work wonderfully, and I'm feeling better than I have in a long time.
@@vodkasvoice Im glad to read that
Have a nice day and i hope this next year will be wonderful for you
And Stay strong
@@deathzonekiller2261 Thank you so much, and I hope your year is wonderful, too. :)
@@vodkasvoice Thank you :)
the o image actually scared me..
Yes, I actually had a brutal trigger when it appeared, and I'm not even trypophobic or have severe fear of deep holes, it just, for some reason, THAT hole out of nowhere scared me.
Maybe because of the contrast of colors, black and red, looking like something going deep and deep through a fleshy throat. Maybe that was the feeling, yuck
i just covered it with my hand cause hell nah
@@juliacairone2870 it also kinda resembles a black hole, and we do not know a whole lot of about them despite being so well known, then it starts to remind of all the things mankind hasnt understood or known enough about, the bottom of the ocean, outer space, aliens, god, and it hits you right in the anxiety.
@@juliacairone2870 also theres a weird alien sound playing
that title tho
@Jamal Robertson I summon the Winged Dragon of Dairy
@Jamal Robertson No one tells me the rules! *SUMMONS TWELVE EXODIAS*
This was basically a summary of my first time in Canada.
Drinks are also sold in bags in a lot of other places I've been too so I'm used to it. Although I still prefer my milk in bottles.
@@ManlyBadassHero I genuinely thought bagged milk was a Canadian thing. It looks like I was wrong. Thank you for the info, I have never seen bagged drinks except in Canada.
@@redundantfridge9764 bagged milk exists in india too, although in quarantine, its being delievered to households in glass bottles now.
@@redundantfridge9764 Only some parts of Canada sells milk in bags. The place I live in Canada sells milk in cartons.
4:30 It's amazing how the second the image pops up it's like "oh. ...yeah, I get it." It's so simple, it shouldn't be terrifying, but it is.
I have OCD and I related to some of the experiences in this game. I really liked how it explored how difficult these thoughts can be. I really appreciate this game, I feel called out and seen all at the same time!
I don't have any sort of mental illness really, so I appreciate these games for giving us an actual context for how difficult it can be to do even basic chores when your mind works against itself. I'm really impressed with this game, genuinely; by the end with the bench I felt like I wanted nothing more than for this protagonist to have a better life than what she had, and for a 20 minute experience to bring that emotion on so strongly that's a hallmark of really good writing.
I love this so much! For someone who has never dealt with such thoughts - an outsider to this experience - it is very helpful in understanding those who have. I finally have an inkling to how it can be difficult to do something as simple as buy milk, and what I can do to help. It's also helpful in showing how not to respond. Even so i will not take this game as gospel due to its vague artistry and because everyone experiences such problems in there own way. I hope this game inspires others to create a window to understanding those often misunderstood. :D
This comment is lovely and wholesome.
An alternate title could be “World’s most socially awkward person talks to voice in his head because it’s the only thing that’ll listen to him” In other words, the story of my life.
As a person with a split personality trust me your lucky I can't think with other me always whining
@@JjJ-ie9xf which whining do you mean? Crying and being upset about understandable stuff (example, there is an emotional problem and they are loud because they're stuck in your head and don't have much outlet), or bitching and moaning about literally everything weather it inconveniences or not (Examples, "you're writing crooked." "that food is disgusting." "I hate going here." "when are we heading back?")
@@godricnecro bitching mostly about when it's it's turn
@@JjJ-ie9xf do you two talk?
@@JjJ-ie9xf Sorry, I did not wish to be insensitive. I am not under the illusion that my problems are anywhere near as bad or as uncomfortable as I assume that would be.
It took me awhile to realize that IS the actual title to the game and not something Manly would come up!
Mental illness creates a type of fear which is different than watching a horror movie or reading a scary visual novel. I think this did a fantastic job of depicting mental illness in a way that is not only sympathetic but genuinely frightening.
Edit: I'm not calling mental illness scary, not trying to other the experience of people with mental illness. What I'm trying to say is, the terror that comes from inside our own heads can be some of the greatest terror of all
i think the dx is deliberately vague on purpose, since theres a lot of generalized symptoms and a clear cause in trauma. my first thought was actually some kind of psychosis with the seeing red, the bear thing, etc. that said, i like how it feels more "real" than most portrayals of mental illness. the sort of mental framing, talking to oneself as a third party, getting stuck on thought tangents and mental loops, in addition to the more typical "uneven" feelings and stress about interaction. the way the protag states things, the odd language, speaks to me a lot and is absolutely what made me think this was based on real experience.
i like how the protag, as the anthropomorphized meds, can also talk her through things. like literally walking her back through her uneven steps, unsticking her loops, gently reminder her of the next step, etc. it really reminds me of my own mental efforts and checklists. i like this better than most hokey "the real demons are Depression" games.
and hey, we helped her get the milk! success!
Guys I think Manly's trying to tell us he drinks bagged milk
The true horror
Bagged³ milk
@@Puffman728 bagged cubed? The ninth dimension?
Jaiso The Positive Pessimist milk but in cubes
@@alexadoessomestuff that would be such a strange world if liquids needed to be chewed out of cubes and then they become liquid in your mouth, or maybe you would just suck the floating liquid cube from the air and parts would disappear as you drank it ._.
This reminds me of not just OCD, but Schizophrenia, too. Like a mix of it. I'd know, I have both, and thankfully my medications actually work. In the past, due to being a social outcast, I never really learned how to talk to people right. I have hardly any filter, and I tend to tell too much about myself. I'm still that way a bit, but being in social games, it actually has helped me a lot to learn how normal people talk and all. I'd also always been a good student in terms of English, so learning more eloquent ways of speaking was a must.
Though, in terms of the Schizophrenia, I've had it all my life. Since I was born, even. I remember seeing horrifying things, then dismissing it as if it were normal, since no one else seemed to react to the absurdities. When a doctor pressed me on it, I finally told them about it, and got started on meds. With my OCD, thankfully it's not too bad, at least not to this extent. I do still have the perfectionist complex, though... Even with meds, that never really stops. I find myself needlessly restacking shelves at stores, and even having bizarre conversations to myself quietly. Thankfully, I've learnt how to compose myself and look normal in the presence of others, so nothing too bad has arisen.
This game speaks to me in a certain personal level, viewing the mental illness they portray is almost... I dunno, surreal? It's like I was looking at a version of myself that's much worse off. The person who worked on this game, and their colleagues, did a very good job portraying the absurdity of it all.
Of course, this game could just be straight-forward and just be weird, too, and not a euphemism and/or juxtaposition for mental issues, PTSD, Schizophrenia and OCD.
Oh I see, the main charater is traumatized by her dad's death. She saw her dad died and mentally blocked a huge gap of memory afterwards.
The trauma possible caused the anxiety and OCD as well.
I'm pretty sure the mom is abusive as well which can also be a cause of the anxiety.
Cant explain the only able to see red though....
maybe it's the dad's blood being everywhere?
How do you understand that it is a woman?
@@fiddlers_green I'm pretty sure it implied or shows their face. I don't remember. Maybe they aren't.
@@fiddlers_green she refers to herself as "an innocent girl" 11:20
@@radienttwilight thank you
This is probably the most tame horror game I've seen recently, but since I also have anxiety and have the same problem of my steps feeling wrong if the ground beneath isn't similar/I take too many steps on one type of surface with one foot but not the other, the horror hit pretty close to home. I actually jumped at the super tame "jump scares" which is.... a little embarassing
Geez, this is actually really unnerving for me. I think similarly to the way this game is written and it's terrifyingly realistic to how I feel when I start having a really bad day.
I have a theory that the player themselves is the girls new medication working, and every option you do is how she’s interacting with the new medicine. The game over almost plays out as her quitting or throwing away her new medicine or “manly” who’s failed her and hasn’t worked. As well as the player having the option to help her through the day or organize her thoughts. This may also be helped that when she’s talking to a “reader” you don’t actually get any dialogue options (implying the player and that reader are different entities [the player being medicine and the reader being you])
yoo why is this horror game the most accurate depiction of whats its like to be neurodivergent ive seen in a while ...... im here for it tho
It's amazing how well the mental illness is portrayed. I'm perceiving catatonia symptoms (the way the speech cuts off mid sentence), compulsive obsessive behavior (tile-stepping), psychosis (not being able to tell metaphor from reality, as with the whole 'step 1' vs 'step 50' conondrum). And I'm only at minute 3 so far. Also, I only know all of these things because I researched. So, I'm quite impressed already.
UPDATE:
-oh now we're seeing allucinations, another for the psychosis pile.
-repetition! Another catatonia symptom (the one where speech gets into a loop of "excuse me, what").
-And the one that repeats a few of your own words, also catatonia - I can't remember the name, but it's not echo...
- ...actually the part where she repeats "o" back to the monster might be echo.
- the part about her being scared of the letter "o" also feels like it belongs into one of these diagnosis, though I can't pin point it at this time...
(...Man, this is textbook examples for psychology medical training.)
- psychosis ramblings in the bag of milk bit, and the mile of icecream quip - man, that one got away from us.
- and now I think about it, the very start of the story where she thinks people can read her thought so she has to be extra careful sounds like thought-policing, which is part of obsessive disorder.
Man, I'm fascinated. What an eerie realistic portrayal of mental illness.
EDIT: Oh. Oops. Did I ruin it by putting here my guesses for the diagnosis?
There are a lot of comments talking about how relatable this is for some people and that it's comforting to them.
Which makes me happy. ^w^
It can feel lonely when you have nothing to relate to.
I think the world needs more of these kinds of games.
*"This is fine."*
i'm drinking a bag of milk to get the full experience
This really hit home to me. To experience something so bad back then that it completely affects the way you think and act and see the world... the descriptions of the things that were happening felt really familiar (and melancholic...)!! As someone with mostly the same issues, I really like this game and how realistic it felt!
Canadian Eldritch beings: *(descends from the roof)* "Eh ther bud, ya need some milk? that'll be 3.85 and a soul please."
Once I understood that you, the player, play the role of the medication and the clarity it brings her, it all made sense. This is a very neat game.
The game reminded me of something middle/high school me used to do. I had really bad anxiety (i still do, but its better now i think) and whenever i talked to someone, i would recall the sentence i said and then count how many syllables it had. If the number was even id be happy. If it was uneven i was sad. It was weird... having something so insignificant have such a huge impact on my mood at the time.
I can also relate to the protag imagining themself as if they were in a video game in order to sorta... lessen their anxiety and pretend theyre here to impress someone? that one being the player?
I cannot go to therapy due to family issues, so I'm pretty sure I have a lot of mental issues that are undiagnosed. One of them is definitely depression, but I have also been wondering if I don't have something akin to ADHD or OCD as well. Maybe one day ill be able to find out... for now im surprised at how i can relate to a semi-self-conscious character in a visual novel.
I hope you can find help soon
Happy new year, how are you?
I really relate to that! Good luck out there. We'll both figure it out together!
Oh god, the thumbnail reminds me of the "THEN PERISH" meme XD
i know this game is probably about ocd, but as an autistic person i relate to how the character thinks. its nice knowing im not alone
It only just hit me that at 8:36 the protagonist mentions her mum specifically going to throw her out a window if she doesn't come back with milk. Just like her dad was thrown out a window maybe? And since the mum had that scary and unreadable mask on...i have to wonder if her mom is a murderer and the protag Is trying to cope with knowing her mom could get her too at any moment. Welp! On to the bag of milk outside I suppose!
Thank you for always doing such wonderful work, manly!
Just finished playing Milk Outside a Bag of Milk Outside a Bag of Milk. Had no idea there was another game in the series. I didn't expect to spend my night exploring the Milk Bag Extended Universe but here we are.
I think there's a lot going on with the character. They hear voices and are going through a delusion, but there is clearly some anxiety and ocd tendencies. I really enjoyed this video, thanks manly.
Store closes in an hour. Seemingly no time passes, and then the store closes in 15 mins. That actually made me a little sad. But also, the "two days passing" before the cashier nods and finishes the transaction was both sad and uncomfortable
This game's got a real intensity to it, the intensity our protagonist views her world due to varying reasons the story alludes to. I feel like the developer handled this respectfully, and they nailed the unsettling vibe of it all.
This is kind of embarrassing, but because of a lot of stress from my parents and a bunch of mental issues I've had most of my life, I never really got out of the "imaginary friend" mindset. It's similar to how the protagonist in this game acts.
I just want to say that if anyone out there has an "imaginary friend" type of thing, it's not as strange as you think. It's a way to cope if you're in an environment that makes it hard to rely on others to talk to about your feelings, or just dealing with lots of stress/depression/anxiety in general. I'm not sure I'd still be here if I felt like I was the "only one in my head", if that makes sense. So to anyone out there that has something like this, don't feel ashamed about it. It can be a very helpful way to cope!
stay strong
@@gdog8170 Aww, thank you!
@@tsuruya-sonozaki np
I know this is an old video but coming back to it after knowing I'm autistic this feels very relatable to my difficult experience going out and doing daily tasks, it's comforting in a way to know that other people have the same struggles
*when he sounds like he does asmr*
I wish he made one ! 😆😆😆
@@nyanya5768 Ikr!
This ended up being pretty comforting for a horror game. Glad you played and enjoyed it as well.
Dad, you gotta promise me you don't get stuck buying milk like my other dad
To be honest... This sorta reminds me of the worst times of schizophrenia in the way I have it. The combination of depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, autism and a few other things can really fuck with how I see and perceive things when it's at it's worst.
Of course, it's never been this extreme or literally like this, but it feels like... a strange allegory for what it feels like at it's worst. And in a way... it's strangely comforting to see it put down into a type of media that feels familiar in how I've dealt with it. Talking to myself helps so much. Gets thoughts straightened out, and the back and forth of.... well, myself and I? Can sometimes give me realizations I wouldn't have had otherwise. Like saying things out loud helps, and imagining someone else is there for those voices helps. They go from being unknown thoughts to something that feels more real and easier to handle/control.
I feel like i'm rambling and making little sense, but I just... really like this game. Feels like I can relate to someone in a situation that has always been so hard to explain.
"Excuse me, what?"
"O"
@@rogerreger9631 Excuse me, what?
@искрыч лох228 "Excuse me, what?"
@@aloeTevi “O”
@@ahr_amlover "Excuse me, what?"
As a person with OCD, this might be something that the mc has to be honest. A lot of...clues
Ah, as someone with autism, i get the being like icecream metaphor. Not entirely, because i didn't process it long enough, but i get it! To dumb it down, it seems to be something like "I'm partway home! I've almost finished getting the milk."
At least, that's how it reads to me. Y'know? If the stick is the distance between them and the store, and the icecream is the rest of the way home...
As someone with ADHD, autism, and anxiety, I can confirm that my mind does sometimes do this shit
More likely she has some kind of schizophrenia rather than autism. Like paranoid schizophrenia.
The stepping part reminds me of OCD - obsessive compulsive disorder. I suffer for it and I know the feeling.
I find this relatable, I’m slowly losing my memory and cognition. So much so that yes, eventually I’m fairly certain I’ll be unable to go to the store to do something as simple as buying milk. I appreciate that most people chose the nice options. Forgetting what you’re doing while you’re doing it is horrible, but at least I’m physically unable to worry too much about it.
Pro tip btw if you’re also struggling, having Siri set reminders is really helpful. So is setting timers for everything. Notes are good as long as they’re in a very visible place. (Mine are on my phone’s Homescreen, but anywhere you see often works.)
Wow coming back to this after watching the sequel it makes so much more sense why all this is happening! We see all the strangeness because the conceit is that her thoughts are on screen. The way she sees all the normal things as strange, scary, obsessive and intrusive. It is terrifying for her just to think let alone function in public.
there is something really comforting in this absurdity
That was excellent. I want waaaaay more from whoever made this.
This must be why my dad still hasn’t gotten milk
As a person with ocd I can assure you, this is about ocd.
Seeing as it is triggering mine right now.
So here's how it works:
You have milk:
-That milk is inside a bag.
-This bag isn't alone, it can come in a pack which can be held within another, bigger bag.
-When you finish your groceries, we put the milk in a plastic bag like other groceries.
-Depending of the quality of said plastic bag, we can put another one as to avoid it breaking while walking with it.
So in reality, this could be interpreted as a plastic bag of milk in a plastic bag of milk in a plastic bag with milk in a plastic bag with milk, Or you could add a plastic bag to your plastic bag of milk in a plastic bag of milk in a plastic bag with milk in a plastic bag with milk to extend it further making it a plastic bag of milk in a plastic bag of milk in a plastic bag with milk in a plastic bag with milk with in a plastic bag of milk ans so forth.
Hope this clears things out.
For me, it's the social anxiety that hit hard. It's so close to home that it terrifies me a bit, especially that part when the protagonist practices her dialogue repeatedly just to buy a bag of milk.
“In Canada”
That’s enough of an explanation to know where it’s going.
Manlybadasshero is the last gaming youtuber with soothing voice. R.i.p cryaotic.
I played this some time ago. It's strangely interesting, and somehow I can understand the thought process she's going through. Not a bad game for such a modest price tag.
This voice never gets old good game play lad
me: haha, a bag of milk. Like the meme.
*reads comments about a bag of milk being a real thing*
me, remembering I've learned this before: *surprised pikachu face*
Haha I’m not even 5 minutes in and I can tell this game is about OCD. I’ve always wanted to make a game about my own experience with it and so far I feel like this has done a pretty good job.
... it took me a second to realize that was not Manly's funny title, but the actual title~
I never knew buying milk could ever be so tense...
People are saying this is about anxiety and ocd, and I agree, but I think the protagonist has schizophrenia. Anxiety and ocd are both symptoms of that, plus the protagonist seemingly admits they’re experiencing psychosis and hallucinations (imagining things as monsters, seeing only red, etc). But idk tho.
Me: Geez this girl is a whole mood, way too much of one tbh
The comments: Yeah this is about having OCD!
Me: *Nervous sweating*
What a great game. I loved it, good work. I see a lot of theories that it's about a person suffering from OCD but I think that depending on whether you view the contents of the game literally or symbolically changes its interpretation. In my opinion everything that happens in this game is a schizophrenic hallucination by the main character, including the strange appearance of all of the people/her mom and how the entire game is coloured red. The MC literally hearing a voice inside of her mind and responding to it aloud and having delusions about herself (Being in a visual novel) is the strongest evidence to support this in my opinion. Furthermore she says that she stores "adjusts" to her and she believes all of the traffic lights are extinguished for her when she walks so she can hurry up. She also said she is "i'm not in the world your'e talking about", which interpreted literally means she thinks she's in her own world. She also straight up says she She also has rather disorganized speech /thought patterns such as when she is talking about how she feels like "a mile of ice cream" and generally says very little to anyone but the voice in her head. She seems to have a poor memory as well, since she says multiple times that she forgot how to buy milk from the store.
I certainly see the evidence for this being a person with OCD as well. Much of the above can be interpreted as symbolically or metaphorically for how the MC *feels* about living with OCD and the challenges that she goes through. However I think the parts about the MC talking to herself and seemingly creating delusions about the world around her create a much stronger argument for her being schizophrenic. I also think she could be schizophrenic with symptoms of OCD as well, since the MC methodically counting her steps and going over what to say repeatedly in her head are very strong evidence for this.
I can't make any sense of her being afraid of the letter "O" though. When she explains it she has a vision of some kind of portal into a darkness or void. Or maybe it's a planet or a star? An eye? A bottomless pit? Black hole? I don't know. I thought at first it might have something to do with some kind of sexual abuse but by the end of the video I'm still thinking about it. Hopefully someone else has a better grasp on it.
I've formed an idea relating to the o based on these facts:
The MC mentions "being thrown through a window" by her mother if she doesn't return with milk.
She mentions that her chore to get milk has changed following the death of her father, while he too was out getting milk.
The image of the O we see is a dark hole, surrounded by a red swirling vortex
When she arrives home, she says something about hanging off the window or balcony, she says that she has conqured her fear of heights thanks to her medication - the image we see is a dark void with a building swirling around it in red.
I think that her mother is abusive, and the mental illness is a commonality from her father. I think that the father accidentally fell, or was pushed, or killed himself by throwing himself out of the window or balcony - into that black pit that the MC sees when looking out the window, which bares a striking resemblance to the O Image.
The title reminds me of a video by Cyriak called "Cows & cows & cows"
So a lot of people are talking about OCD and adhd. I have ADD which is like ADHD but without the h. (I'm just more tired, my brain can't sort out the energy/focus correctly and I forget thinks easily. Medicin has helped me remember things in my childhood and helped not fall asleep at work.)
In my parents house, the hallway was wooden planks, and I always had to start with the right leg, left leg, right leg, left leg until I reached the room I wanted to go to. Also walking on the side walk, I always stepped once on the tiles, right leg, left leg, right leg, left leg and so on. I also sometimes had to tap on things on an not odd numbers but like 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 ect. I have stopped doing it now, but I still remember doing it.
Also when I stroke something I also had to do it in 2 or 4 times. That I do sometimes, but it's not as bad as before.
The true horror aspect of this game is the fact that the milk comes in a bag
For elaboration, all our milk is not in bags, I'm a Canadian and I have literally never seen a bag of milk outside of memes about bags of milk, we still use cartons like regular people, milk bags are just another much less common option
This game is so sad....
Dude watching you play these games is relaxing and your voice is just relaxing