I always wonder how good he could’ve been with the Steelers dude would’ve had a chance to learn behind a HoF qb for a year then get handed the reins to a very solid offense
@@devilishdonut1390idk what constitutes a hidden gem in your eyes but if a QB drafted in the 6th round that is a capable starter and excellent backup who can help you win games in a pinch and has a positive TD/INT ratio and is arguably better than some starting QBs who were drafted earlier isn’t a hidden gem, then idk what is
ill never forget how despite the fact that Trace McSorley led his high school to four straight state championship game appearances, very few high major recruiters looked at the six foot tall 180 pounder and said quarterback.
Jake Browning was also part of the 2019 NFL rookie QB class. He was an undrafted free agent. He spent several seasons on the practice squads of the Vikings and the Bengals before winning a job as a backup for the Bengals in 2023. He actually started seven games this past season for the Bengals after Joe Burrow was injured.
Fitzpatrick was total ass. His only worth was that he could give you two good games a year and then cut him at the end of the season. @@adamchirico3805
Drew Lock could’ve been a decent plugin starter like Minshew if the Broncos weren’t an absolute dumpster fire that didn’t have a coaching staff run by clowns that also didn’t know or care to develop him. His rookie year was promising but we fired Rich Scangarello so we could use him as a scapegoat to blame for the season’s failure, and the Broncos decided to hire Pat Shurmur to replace him despite Shurmur being one of the worst coaches in the league, which ruined Lock’s development. It also didn’t help that Lock was benched for Teddy Bridgewater which hurt his confidence and development even more. I know I sound like a Drew Lock apologist but it can’t be understated just how much Denver sucks at developing QBs and how much of a circus the organization is
Drew Lock was/is not the best QB but as a Seahawks fan I will always remember his game against the Eagles in Week 15 and him winning the game with a pass to JSN.
Missed the chance to talk about how Mike leach developed Minshew at Washington state. In recruiting him to Washington state coach leach called him and the first thing he said was “how would you like to lead the whole NCAA in passing yards”……he did.
It is pretty popular now. What the comment implies is that he probably came to watch the NFL just lately, so he didn't know all too much about the sport or rather this draft class..@@gridiron8870
I was driving on I95 on that stretch where Haskins was hit. I passed him not knowing it was him and saw him trying to cross the highway. I was wondering why the hell anyone would try to do that.
One of the great things about college football is the fan base judges you based on what you did in school, not that you couldn’t hack it in the league. Cities and towns across America have guys you completely forgot about as local legends.
As a Broncos fan, I would argue that Drew Lock wasn't really given a chance. He had a head coach, Vic Fangio, who didn't care about the offensive side of the ball. Fangio wasn't interested in developing a QB, he wanted an old veteran. During the one season where Lock was the starter, Fangio admitted that they only used about half of the playbook, because he and the OC didn't have confidence in Lock, nor did they want to work with him. That said, part of the problem with incoming QB classes is due to QBs like Mahomes. Now if a rookie QB isn't immediately an all star, they are deem worthless.
Should have rode it out with Lock one more year and drafted a QB if it didn’t work out instead of mortgaging the future in that awful Russell Wilson deal.
I always liked Drew Lock and felt the same way about him. Always felt like the dude had potential but he could just never get to that starter level for whatever reason. I watched him throw a pick in a preseason game fighting for the Giants backup job the other day though, so idk if he’s gonna make his way back lol. He was definitely one of those guys who was failed by coaching, rather than just never being able to live up to his potential at the pro level.
Im really mad i couldn't see DH in black and yellow 😢 being a Buckeyes and Steelers fan i love when my college players go to my Nfl team❤ Rest In Peace Dwayne Haskins
2018 Eli Manning: 4299 yards, 21 TDs, 11 INTs, 92.4 passer rating. Daniel Jones matched this only in 2022 and had the Giants not drafted him, they could and probably would have drafted a QB in the 2020 draft with a far better QB class.
Gardner Minshew is just the new Ryan Fitzpatrick lol. He is really that in between QB. A well above average backup QB but just slightly below average starting QB.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 okay but this group is full of bums besides Kyler and Kyler visually and talent wise is better than Dj. He definitely was a reach and is not a franchise Qb
Strong arm, decent stats at the combine and his height and weight look good. But you need a lot more than that at the NFL. The big issue that I think you see is the INTs he throws and won’t make him good at that level.
@@zeroonezero6270that’s a good summary. Funny that you mention the picks too cause I just watched him throw one in a preseason game the other day fighting for a backup spot. I always liked Drew Lock and hoped he would be successful but I don’t think he’s getting farther than QB2 or 3 at this point in his career.
When you reach for ANY player INCLUDING QBs you’re going to see some spectacular disasters. It’s not just that teams reach for QBs, but those teams often don’t know how to develop QBs. Whether you become a Hall of Famer or a bust often times depends on who drafts you. Has anyone wondered why QBs drafted #1 overall don’t generally have overly successful careers, especially with the team that drafted them? Former #1 overall picks, Plunkett and Stafford, won Super Bowls but not with the team that drafted them. Reaching and inability to develop players is a chronic problem for bad franchises.
Dwayne Haskins was a Dan Snyder pick. The coaches and scouts (i.e., Jay Gruden) had serious questions about him but would have considered him later in the draft, maybe even in the 2nd. They ended up trading back into the 1st round for Montez Sweat as sort of a compensation for acquiescing to taking Dwayne. So dysfunctional.
Jags fans have no hate in their heart when it comes to Gardner. We will love and support him no matter where even when he went to the Colts. Except when he played us.
Daniel Jones, Drew Lock and Will Grier all had potential but they was a flop….. Gardener was a hidden gem and Kyler Murray is the best qb taken in that draft.
Straight up backup class, besides Daniel Jones and Kyler. And both those guys are players who a lot of people think shouldn’t be starters in this league lol.
I hope you do the best QB draft class since '83, the 2020 class. Also Daniel Jones is what happens when a team crosses the line from being in denial to delusional.
Minshew on the Raiders is going to be a problem for Broncos fans. I remember when we played him his rookie year. I was at that game and oh my lord he could NOT be stopped!
I met a guy who played against Kyler in high school dude was a linebacker and said that the first time Kyler took off he knew that Kyler would play in the NFL and that he would not. He said he heard the snap blinked and when he opened his eyes Kyler was already passing him.
I know he got his money from the Cards, and he’s still considered their starter, but I still think he should’ve stayed with the A’s and played short stop. He’d probably be nasty in the MLB by now making way more money.
Apparently, the Mannings had a hand on the New York Giants drafting Danny Derps (Daniel Jones). I hope the Giants can walk away from this draft bust and get a QB without being coerced by Eli or Peyton. Rest in peace, Dwayne Haskins.
not really relevant but halfway thru this video, I got an ad for Miller Lite, for Detroit Tigers fans. I live over 700miles from Detroit, dont watch baseball, AND I dont even drink
Jus keep sucking.. trade back next year build that o line then suck again and grab arch! I jus hope they don't be dumb and grab shadeur or beck this year
I find it funny as a giants fan how fans of other teams think of Jones as a reach and an overall disappointment. But many giants fans hate his guts and you’d think he was the biggest bust of all time.
I don't think any QB drafted after round 2 that only turns into a backup level qb is a disappointment, QBs drafted later than the 2nd are seen as backup level QBs and anything more than that is a plus, it's only a disappointment if they do absolutely nothing
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Gardner minshew getting drafted in some backyard shirtless in some Jean shorts will forever be legendary real Florida man
Hes from Mississippi but he does give Florida energy
@LTJG8032 I'm my heart, he's from florida 😂😂😂
@@LTJG80he played QB for my schools biggest rival 😂
Uncle Rico
RIP Dwayne Haskins 🙏
He's in hell where he belongs
SO SORRY BROTHER R.I.P. 😢
RIP
I always wonder how good he could’ve been with the Steelers dude would’ve had a chance to learn behind a HoF qb for a year then get handed the reins to a very solid offense
@@retroguy3344he had a good chance of being good
Gardner is still the best hidden gem in a while, besides purdy
Purdy👎
He ain’t no hidden gem
He's the most interesting QB, that porn mustache helped a lot.
@@devilishdonut1390idk what constitutes a hidden gem in your eyes but if a QB drafted in the 6th round that is a capable starter and excellent backup who can help you win games in a pinch and has a positive TD/INT ratio and is arguably better than some starting QBs who were drafted earlier isn’t a hidden gem, then idk what is
Tyrod Taylor is pretty good too
ill never forget how despite the fact that Trace McSorley led his high school to four straight state championship game appearances, very few high major recruiters looked at the six foot tall
180 pounder and said quarterback.
🎶🎶🎵🎵.... (beat drop) "Throw it on a line like i ain't even tryin....
Yeah some colleges offered him a scholarship to play Safety. Then at least one NFL team requested him to do DB drills at the Combine.
Jake Browning was also part of the 2019 NFL rookie QB class. He was an undrafted free agent. He spent several seasons on the practice squads of the Vikings and the Bengals before winning a job as a backup for the Bengals in 2023. He actually started seven games this past season for the Bengals after Joe Burrow was injured.
Raaahh Washington alum
Huge Shoutout to Scott for the opportunity here. Hope y’all enjoy the video🤞🏼❤️
bro might be more listenable than Scott……… I didn’t say it tho 🤫
Minshew is this generation’s Ryan Fitzpatrick.
FitzMagic is way better
How he make a pro bowl
@@jameshollister8294pro bowls mean nothing tyler huntley went to the pro bowl as a backup on the ravens
Fitzpatrick was total ass. His only worth was that he could give you two good games a year and then cut him at the end of the season. @@adamchirico3805
He's the "we have Fitzmagic at home" version.
Drew Lock could’ve been a decent plugin starter like Minshew if the Broncos weren’t an absolute dumpster fire that didn’t have a coaching staff run by clowns that also didn’t know or care to develop him. His rookie year was promising but we fired Rich Scangarello so we could use him as a scapegoat to blame for the season’s failure, and the Broncos decided to hire Pat Shurmur to replace him despite Shurmur being one of the worst coaches in the league, which ruined Lock’s development. It also didn’t help that Lock was benched for Teddy Bridgewater which hurt his confidence and development even more. I know I sound like a Drew Lock apologist but it can’t be understated just how much Denver sucks at developing QBs and how much of a circus the organization is
Bro as a broncos fan I totally agree drew lock is a good qb and was improving until we hired pat shurmar that was the worse thing to do he failed drew
Denver broncos failed drew lock
Drew Lock is not a starter. We saw him play plenty in Seattle, he was not good.
@@oakjim206how many games did he start in Seattle?
No, he sucks and that’s why he didn’t keep the starting job in Denver. Do you see Seattle starting him either? When they did he sucked there too
This man’s calling day 3 backups still in the league disappointing which is just odd.
They are still on the league?
Drew Lock was/is not the best QB but as a Seahawks fan I will always remember his game against the Eagles in Week 15 and him winning the game with a pass to JSN.
He was lowk doing good against the 9ers too but they wouldn't let him pass that much
What I wanna know is why he always looks like he's constantly being haunted by bad memories.
Mannn that was so hype!
Missed the chance to talk about how Mike leach developed Minshew at Washington state. In recruiting him to Washington state coach leach called him and the first thing he said was “how would you like to lead the whole NCAA in passing yards”……he did.
You been improving lately and like how you’re uploading regularly now. Keep up the good work. I like your style of videos
Im from Germany so I started to watch football very late. Dwayne Haskins was the first guy I ever bought a jersey of, that shid crushed my soul
Why isnt american football popular in Germany
Probably things like soccer is watched more.
It is pretty popular now. What the comment implies is that he probably came to watch the NFL just lately, so he didn't know all too much about the sport or rather this draft class..@@gridiron8870
The Kyler Murray contract extension shenanigans was enough for a video on its own 😂
He’s hot
I was driving on I95 on that stretch where Haskins was hit. I passed him not knowing it was him and saw him trying to cross the highway. I was wondering why the hell anyone would try to do that.
For sure dude
Thank you for assessing the class 5 years later instead of overreacting after most of the guys don’t have a full season under their belt. Great work!
Yea cuz their is prolly a couple hofers in this class lmao
Trace!!!! Local legend! I drive by his high school after work every day and still see him around the area. Really cool guy
I like this format; where the two of you trade off narration duties. Reminds me of Secret Base.
R.I.P Dwayne Haskins 🙏🏾🕊
Good video and good stuff paying it forward for another Creator
I would really like to see you review the 2021 draft class. That’s a really interesting class. Lawrence really had a bad second half of the season.
One of the great things about college football is the fan base judges you based on what you did in school, not that you couldn’t hack it in the league. Cities and towns across America have guys you completely forgot about as local legends.
As a Broncos fan, I would argue that Drew Lock wasn't really given a chance. He had a head coach, Vic Fangio, who didn't care about the offensive side of the ball. Fangio wasn't interested in developing a QB, he wanted an old veteran. During the one season where Lock was the starter, Fangio admitted that they only used about half of the playbook, because he and the OC didn't have confidence in Lock, nor did they want to work with him. That said, part of the problem with incoming QB classes is due to QBs like Mahomes. Now if a rookie QB isn't immediately an all star, they are deem worthless.
Should have rode it out with Lock one more year and drafted a QB if it didn’t work out instead of mortgaging the future in that awful Russell Wilson deal.
I always liked Drew Lock and felt the same way about him. Always felt like the dude had potential but he could just never get to that starter level for whatever reason. I watched him throw a pick in a preseason game fighting for the Giants backup job the other day though, so idk if he’s gonna make his way back lol. He was definitely one of those guys who was failed by coaching, rather than just never being able to live up to his potential at the pro level.
Locker was a horribly innacurate passer. He was never going to make it. Oh crap I him confused with Jake Locker.
Im really mad i couldn't see DH in black and yellow 😢 being a Buckeyes and Steelers fan i love when my college players go to my Nfl team❤
Rest In Peace Dwayne Haskins
Man, I wanted Seth Russell to succeed, I had memories watching him when he was in Baylor
2018 Eli Manning: 4299 yards, 21 TDs, 11 INTs, 92.4 passer rating. Daniel Jones matched this only in 2022 and had the Giants not drafted him, they could and probably would have drafted a QB in the 2020 draft with a far better QB class.
Mad respect for spotlighting smaller creators.
Gardner Minshew is just the new Ryan Fitzpatrick lol. He is really that in between QB. A well above average backup QB but just slightly below average starting QB.
The only guy that truly had any potential from this class was pure tragic sadly😭😭😭
It's sad he died.. but also he was terrible
Kyler Murray, Daniel Jones, and Gardner Minshew ended up being the three good apples from the rotten tree.
Daniel Jones is a good option for a backup QB
Daniel jones as top ten draft pick is not a good apple
@@steezyniqqaoffdabloc The only QB in the group with a playoff win.
@@baxatakbaxatak2014 okay but this group is full of bums besides Kyler and Kyler visually and talent wise is better than Dj. He definitely was a reach and is not a franchise Qb
@@steezyniqqaoffdabloc he's a five year starter and on a second contract after winning a playoff game. That is a franchise QB
I've said for years that just because they're the best QB in the draft doesn't always mean they're worth a top 5 pick
Trace McSorley did pretty good as a three star recruit good for him for lasting so long
We get it, LeBron said “taking his talents to” when he did The Decision. You don’t have to say it for every player.
Apologies for the major inconvenience🫡
Cry more.
I've never understood what made people think Drew Lock was going to be a NFL caliber QB. He should become a rapper and call himself Drew Lock Shakur.
Strong arm, decent stats at the combine and his height and weight look good. But you need a lot more than that at the NFL. The big issue that I think you see is the INTs he throws and won’t make him good at that level.
@@zeroonezero6270that’s a good summary. Funny that you mention the picks too cause I just watched him throw one in a preseason game the other day fighting for a backup spot. I always liked Drew Lock and hoped he would be successful but I don’t think he’s getting farther than QB2 or 3 at this point in his career.
Damn bro I disagree.. but drew lock shakur is the best thing I've seen on the internet in years lmao
Kyle gets paid to care more bout COD, then his playbook
Totally absolutely untrue.
NC State fan, we got Ryan Finley because he came as a package deal when we hired Drinkwitz as our OC
2020 QB class 4 years later would be awesome to see. One of the best classes of all time
The thing about Minshew is that he statistically outperformed Trevor Lawrence in Jax.
Hell quiet as kept he had a rookie season on par if not better than kyler Murray
You need to do the 2004 QB draft class
Thanks to your looped techno-trash supermarket-background level muzak, I no longer need to go to supermarkets to hear their muzak.
Love these vids
When you reach for ANY player INCLUDING QBs you’re going to see some spectacular disasters. It’s not just that teams reach for QBs, but those teams often don’t know how to develop QBs. Whether you become a Hall of Famer or a bust often times depends on who drafts you. Has anyone wondered why QBs drafted #1 overall don’t generally have overly successful careers, especially with the team that drafted them? Former #1 overall picks, Plunkett and Stafford, won Super Bowls but not with the team that drafted them. Reaching and inability to develop players is a chronic problem for bad franchises.
That's a great post.. the dj pick was terrible tho and his 1 year of success made it so much worse
Daniel jones did not deserve that contract he got.
Great videos Add any undrafted qbs that had action. Jake Browning this past season 👍
Dwayne Haskins was a Dan Snyder pick. The coaches and scouts (i.e., Jay Gruden) had serious questions about him but would have considered him later in the draft, maybe even in the 2nd. They ended up trading back into the 1st round for Montez Sweat as sort of a compensation for acquiescing to taking Dwayne. So dysfunctional.
As soon as I heard Drew Lock, I flipped. I went to his high school, lived in town, and everyone knew his name.
Jags fans have no hate in their heart when it comes to Gardner. We will love and support him no matter where even when he went to the Colts. Except when he played us.
Daniel Jones, Drew Lock and Will Grier all had potential but they was a flop….. Gardener was a hidden gem and Kyler Murray is the best qb taken in that draft.
lets gooo Drew Lock segment💯
Fun fact Allen recruited Kyler from Lewisville HS(Allen HS alum speaking)
The 2019 class has a bunch of journeyman QBs. This is a pretty decent but not a bad class.
Straight up backup class, besides Daniel Jones and Kyler. And both those guys are players who a lot of people think shouldn’t be starters in this league lol.
@@Thrashman-ye4cfbesides kyler.. dj is hot garbage
ahh yes Christian Hackenburg the guy that got me introduced to this amazing channel
almost 4 years ago!
damn 5 years ago 😂
Fellow Mizzou alum here, commenting to help youtube out
I hope you do the best QB draft class since '83, the 2020 class. Also Daniel Jones is what happens when a team crosses the line from being in denial to delusional.
2020 class is dope.. but 2004 has at least 2 hofers and a top 15 stats guy all time in rivers
Lock needs another shot, it was clear Fangio didnt want him and you wont find success with a coach who doesnt like you
Minshew on the Raiders is going to be a problem for Broncos fans. I remember when we played him his rookie year. I was at that game and oh my lord he could NOT be stopped!
Love the Kyler Murray praise, he gets hated on way too much 🙏
He is trash bruh
@@dMangofoxJr you don't watch him lil bro 💀
I met a guy who played against Kyler in high school dude was a linebacker and said that the first time Kyler took off he knew that Kyler would play in the NFL and that he would not. He said he heard the snap blinked and when he opened his eyes Kyler was already passing him.
I know he got his money from the Cards, and he’s still considered their starter, but I still think he should’ve stayed with the A’s and played short stop. He’d probably be nasty in the MLB by now making way more money.
I like the vids but maybe next vid a little faster paced and a more alive voice
I used to watch lock play in high school and had no idea 💀
As a Patriots fan, Bill O'Brien and Matt Patricia killed Stidhams chances
I’m gonna go with no on that Bill O’Brien had nothing to do with Stidham he was gone by then. Stidham had no real talent. He was never gonna make it.
Boy, never even remember hearing of Clayton Thorton
Rest up Simba
Minshew is the man. A limited QB, but he plays hard and is fun to watch. Perfect QB for Leach, mentality-wise at WSU. Just a football player.
"A fumbling mess" if you add "on crutches or in a sling" you've just described most of the running QB's coming out of college now. 🤣
Apparently, the Mannings had a hand on the New York Giants drafting Danny Derps (Daniel Jones). I hope the Giants can walk away from this draft bust and get a QB without being coerced by Eli or Peyton.
Rest in peace, Dwayne Haskins.
INB4 the Giants take Arch Manning in 2026
Can we put the stats/graphics vertically? When watching the video with subtitles, it's hard to see both at the same time.
Trace McSorley was great college QB was never meant to made right for NFL though
You should talk about how good the 2020 qb class looks
Isn’t Easton the brand name of a hockey stick manufacturer lol
Yes it was. They no longer exist but I think of it every time I see his name lol.
not really relevant but halfway thru this video, I got an ad for Miller Lite, for Detroit Tigers fans. I live over 700miles from Detroit, dont watch baseball, AND I dont even drink
If there was only some way of blocking ads...
Sunny Indianapolis? My guy I live here that's never how we describe it lol
Given the longevity of the modern QB- thanks to medical advances and rule changes - 2 or 3 QBs sticking per year is about par
None of them can be as big a bust as Carson Wentz was earlier. Wentz is a disgrace and toxic in the locker room.
The sixth round strikes again!
I remember everyone thought Drew Lock was going to be the next Elway.😂
Great video
Can’t believe I’m gonna have to deal with year 6 Daniel Jones
Jus keep sucking.. trade back next year build that o line then suck again and grab arch! I jus hope they don't be dumb and grab shadeur or beck this year
Do a vid on Steelers 1974 draft class
no one in the nfc east is worried playing daniel jones
howd you guys miss the meme ryan finely is smiling at the camera against the steelers😭😭😭
We love Kyler praise. Quite literally the most disrespected n overhated players in the league
I find it funny as a giants fan how fans of other teams think of Jones as a reach and an overall disappointment. But many giants fans hate his guts and you’d think he was the biggest bust of all time.
I'm sorry for u I got a lot of giants fan home bois.. I jus hope yall keep sucking build the squad up some then get arch
Easton Stick is a beast in Madden
I had high hopes for Grier
That’s definitely not how to pronounce “Daboll” 🤔
My bad brother 🫡
I don't think any QB drafted after round 2 that only turns into a backup level qb is a disappointment, QBs drafted later than the 2nd are seen as backup level QBs and anything more than that is a plus, it's only a disappointment if they do absolutely nothing
No one will remember Thorson as a legend
I am so surprised at how little anyone cared about Dwayne Haskins death and how no one talks about it at all
Who would have thought Minshew, Grier, Stidham and Stick would be the best QB's! The only one superstar was Kyler.
Trace was never given fair opportunity to demonstrate himself
Maaaan I thought Clayton Thorson was gonna be him.😂
What was the Seth Russell injury? Paralysis?
Let’s be real McSorely got screwed over by Baltimore, dude was mad talented just got put on the wrong teams
The quarterback position is too hard to play at the NFL level that's the real problem.
the dude that talked about daniel jones really doesn’t watch ball fr 😭 dahbuhl, it’s DAYBOL lol
I have a hard time believing 2019 could be worse than 2022. Brock Purdy looks like the best one of the bunch and he was Mr. Irrelevant.
"Brian Da-Bowl"